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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 23 16:00:39 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| tnurlygayanov | Hi all ) | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hey ) | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | sorry guys, I in a mini vacation so I didn't send out the agenda ) | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | so here it is | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:02 |
| tnurlygayanov | do we have the AI from the previous meeting? | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:02 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok ) | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | just a minute | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | generally, I was going to talk about PoC status and some things that we'd like to propose about it | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | but, let's take a look at AIs first | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Previous Action Items | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:04 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov, check the status of async tasks in TaskFlow with Ivan | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | I talked to Ivan today about the blueprint status | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/taskflow/+spec/async-tasks | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | he said they just finished some preliminary refactoring in order to implement this requirement | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | so it's not finished yet | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | I'll be looking at it first thing tomorrow to check how it's going | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | I think we need to validate it | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov, Evaluate an interface of salt minion | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | passing this one on since we're concentrated on PoC now | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, Evaluate an interface of salt minion | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | 3. NikolayM, get a simple demo app done by Wed w/o OpenStack | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | it is done as we planned on the previous meeting | 16:10 |
| tnurlygayanov | how we can use this app? | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM created a simple app that exposes a REST endpoint | 16:11 |
| tnurlygayanov | I tested the first version of Mistral on the previous week ) | 16:11 |
| tnurlygayanov | oh, cool, do we have Readme for this app? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | this app uploads a simple workflow to Mistral where tasks actions send HTTP request to this endpoint | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | and we basically log all the tasks and see what's going on | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | it's not too demonstrative maybe, we decided to come up with something a bit different for screencast and other community activities | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, I believe yes, we do )) | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | not sure if everything has already been merged though | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | do you have some concerns about it? | 16:13 |
| tnurlygayanov | I'm check repository and can not find this app... how can I find it? ok. | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | just a sec | 16:14 |
| tnurlygayanov | sounds good, I want to test this app ) | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | let me check | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | right, you should do that :) | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | it's your job ) | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, it hasn't been merged yet, sorry for that | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | this is the corresponding commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62361/ | 16:15 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok, I will review this commit too. | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | this week we'll request additional repos, one of them will contain Mistral examples so we'll move this app to that repo | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, thanks, ok | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | so, the next AI | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | 4. akuznetsov, finalize work related with authentication and keystone trusts | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | It is generally done and tested, awaiting for the approval | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62037/ | 16:18 |
| akuznetsov | I think it was done the last is getting trust for workbook when we run a periodic tasks | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | any challenges there? | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | I mean it's not a problem to get it done soon, right? | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | I believe it's not )) | 16:22 |
| akuznetsov | i think no | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | 5. rakhmerov, publish POC Mistral Engine architecture on wiki | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | I started writing up all the information we have about PoC development here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/POC | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | it doesn't contain much yet though | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | my plan is to make it more complete this week | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, write up all the necessary information about PoC development on wiki | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | but now it contains the main diagram that we used to approach Mistral engine implementation | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic PoC status | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PoC status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:25 | |
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| rakhmerov | so, at this point I'm proud to say that Mistral's basic model works as we initially planned | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | we fixed a lot of issues last week in order to make it possible | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | it works pretty well including scheduler (thanks to akuznetsov), REST API and Engine | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | however, we decided to postpone Mistral release for about 2 business weeks | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | first of all we want to develop something more realistic to demonstrate Mistral | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | something that would solve a real life task like "Creating backups on-schedule" | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | for that to be done we need to integrate the work done by akuznetsov regarding auth mechanism | 16:31 |
| tnurlygayanov | I have one small question about the demo app, which we already have - is it the application, which call Mistral API to do something? | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | and we would also like to demonstrate some additional capabilities in DSL like conditional transitions | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | yes, right | 16:32 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok, thank you! | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | it uses mistral REST API client that sends requests to Mistral REST API :) | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | conditional transitions in DSL require some at least simple Data Flow mechanism | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | and hence that's another thing we'll have to include into PoC | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | we've got lots of ideas how to approach it but looks like we don't have now good representation of the folks now who it needs to be discussed with ) | 16:36 |
| tnurlygayanov | hm, probably we should describe what is it first ) | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | what do you mean exactly? | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | Data Flow? | 16:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | what means 'conditional transitions' | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | ooh | 16:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | transitions which should be performed by the some conditions? | 16:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | do we have some briefly description on the wiki? I can check this. | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | we don't have a clear syntax yet but the general idea is to be able to describe in Mistral DSL things like "if taskA failed then do this" or "if we have that data in data flow context then we do that" | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | no, we don't | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | well, we may actually have some really high level description but we didn't discuss it yet in details | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | that's exactly what are going to do this week | 16:39 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I'd suggest we finish for today | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | unless we have anything else up to discussion | 16:44 |
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| rakhmerov | are we done then? | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "third-party testing (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 16:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 23 16:46:08 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-12-23-16.00.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-12-23-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-12-23-16.00.log.html | 16:46 |
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| colinmcnamara | good morning | 16:58 |
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| colinmcnamara | Colin Here | 17:00 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
| dkehn | hi | 21:00 |
| armax | yello | 21:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 21:00 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando, arosen, amotoki, gongysh, emagana, marun, garyk, mestery: ping | 21:01 |
| amotoki_ | hi | 21:01 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | probably going to be a light attendance day, so let's get started | 21:02 |
| marun | puing | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 23 21:02:06 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:02 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #info No meeting Jan 30th | 21:02 |
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| beagles | Dec 30th? | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | oops :) | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #info No meeting Dec 30th | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | Many folks will be on vacation so pinging the mailing list is probably the best bet between now and the New Year | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | We're 4 short weeks from I-2 | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | We're in pretty decent shape blueprint wise | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | the few that are not started should be started soon | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #topic bugs | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:06 | |
| markmcclain | anteaya has gone through and updated the gate critical bugs | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | the current #1 bug is this one | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1253896 | 21:06 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1253896 in neutron "Attempts to verify guests are running via SSH fails. SSH connection to guest does not work." [Critical,In progress] | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando has a devstack change which addresses this | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | .org/#/c/63641/ | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63641/ | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | this devstack change is a workaround on a potential issue in the ml2 plugin for which I will file a bug shortly. | 21:08 |
| marun | 'potential' -> '' | 21:08 |
| marun | fixed that for you ;) | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | I say potential because i'd like to have some feedback from l2 developers. It won't be the first time I've found a red herring | 21:09 |
| salv-orlando | or whatever the US english idiom for that is | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: ^^^ | 21:09 |
| marun | salv-orlando: that's the correct idiom | 21:09 |
| marun | well, via rkukura it seems that agent liveness is critical to port binding so yeah, we have a problem | 21:10 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: What's the question? | 21:10 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando's proposed fix to workaround a ml2 issue | 21:10 |
| marun | rkukura: the ml2 issue we were just disussing - that port binding depends on agent liveness | 21:10 |
| marun | discussing | 21:10 |
| rkukura | Was just discussing this with marun. The agent-based mechanism drivers need to know whether or not the associated agent is on the node, and need to know if they have mappings for the physical networks. | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | rkukura: some details are in a comment in the bug reports, but I will file a new bug report with more details. | 21:11 |
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| salv-orlando | rkukura: cool. it seems there is no bug in ml2 then? | 21:11 |
| marun | salv-orlando: it's a bug, it just may be intentional | 21:11 |
| rkukura | It currently uses the "liveness" notion, but maybe we need something more relaxed. | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | then we probably need fail a little more explicitly if something is not live enough | 21:11 |
| marun | i'd disagree | 21:12 |
| marun | eventual consistency should be the goal | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | marun: agreed if we can actually achieve it | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | if we can we need to fail faster | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | s/can/can't/ | 21:12 |
| * salv-orlando thinks the current discussion is more suitable for openstack-neutron rather than openstack-meeting | 21:12 | |
| markmcclain | ++ | 21:12 |
| marun | we need to be able to perform binding async and explicitly track success/failure | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | I will be around after the meeting | 21:12 |
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| rkukura | marun: We can't bind ports until we know something about the agent. I think the same thing applies with l3 agents - we can't schedule routers until we know what external network(s) they have | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | Any other bugs we need to discuss? | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova Parity | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | beagles: hi | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | beagles: want to update us? | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | I was chatting with beagles a few minutes ago | 21:14 |
| beagles | hi.. so in parity related efforts - we met and affirmed the drivers on the basic categories last week | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | he should be around | 21:14 |
| beagles | (outlined on wiki) | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | glad there are assigned drivers for the different areas | 21:15 |
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| markmcclain | Anything else to add? | 21:15 |
| beagles | and we focused a great deal on getting a handle of the situation with the full tempest tests... which rossella_s will report on in eventually as part of the neutron tempest thing | 21:16 |
| dkehn | beagles: can you provide link, sorry | 21:16 |
| beagles | we still need a driver/plan-of-attack for the multi-host question | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | I think it's this wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NovaNetNeutronParity | 21:16 |
| beagles | dkehn: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | beagles: for routing EmilienM and Sylvain are looking into it | 21:16 |
| dkehn | beagles: sorry gues that was obvious | 21:16 |
| beagles | I just summarized prior to the meeting :) | 21:17 |
| beagles | markmcclain: cool | 21:17 |
| beagles | I'll sync up with them an see what's goin on. | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | sounds good | 21:17 |
| beagles | I think that's pretty much it for now | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for updating happy to see the progress the team is making | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: around? | 21:18 |
| mlavalle | yes | 21:18 |
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| markmcclain | looks like we have lots of items in review | 21:18 |
| mlavalle | we will start with rossella_s giving an update on the progress with the neutron tempest full job | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | rossella_s: want to update? | 21:19 |
| rossella_s | Yes! beagles, mlavalle and I have been meeting daily to sync up and coordinate the efforts. We ran an analysis of the current tests failures for the full neutron job. The situation is not bad. Few tests are failing, most of the failures are due to the timeout of the floating IP propagation. Since other people are working on it, we will follow up their efforts and monitor the impact of those on the tests. On the nova parity side we will prov | 21:19 |
| rossella_s | a list of the tests currently skipped for Neutron and start triaging them. | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | awesome | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | are you planning on putting the list in an etherpad? | 21:20 |
| rossella_s | markmcclain: yes | 21:20 |
| rossella_s | we will provide the link | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | timeout of floating ip propagation is basically the well known bug that nova takes a while to display neutron's floating ips? | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | basically the thing that you need to refresh horizon a few times before you can see the floating ip in instance list | 21:21 |
| rossella_s | salv-orlando: not sure it's the same | 21:22 |
| amotoki | I think it is the same issue. | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | yeah the cache in nova is updated a fixed interval | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | and that is probably triggering the timeouts on tempest | 21:23 |
| beagles | salv-orlando: that is actually part of it.. yfried found that IP information was failing to propagate in the timeouts set during his cross tenant connectivity check, hence the motivation for removing the check | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | I have a question about nova's network apis which are currently not proxied into neutron, such as the ones for adding ips. What should we do about it? | 21:24 |
| beagles | do you mean the ones like the bulk floating IP ones? | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | seems like we should expand tests to include the non-proxied versions of the API | 21:26 |
| amotoki | Or is it better tempest calls neutron API to check floating IP is available if neutron is enabled? | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: meaning that we should implement the proxy, I think. | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: good point | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | which leads me to the follow up question that I never understood if compatibility with nova-network api is a requirement for nova-network deprecation | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | yes tools that work with nova api should work when neutron is the provider | 21:29 |
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| beagles | I think it is during the deprecation period at the least. | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | in the situations where we can't provide compatibility we need to document the workaround or how to solve the use case | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | ok, so we should proxy 100% of calls. | 21:29 |
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| salv-orlando | or at least aim for that. This should create a plethora of low hanging fruit tasks. | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | yes it should | 21:30 |
| beagles | yup, there is an overlap with the triaging of skipped tests that rossella_s reported earlier | 21:31 |
| mlavalle | rossella_s: ^^^^ this is key to the work we are doing with the tempest job and the skipped tests | 21:31 |
| rossella_s | yes! | 21:32 |
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| salv-orlando | I think another key task is parallel testing, for which there are a few patches under review. Let me know if it's ok to give an update now or if it's better to wait open discussion | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | parallel testing falls into this topic | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | so go ahead and update | 21:33 |
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| salv-orlando | ok so basically we have 5 patches under review: 4 neutron, 1 tempest | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | we're getting a good deal of reviews, but beyond me and marun, no core devs. | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | the tempest patch or neutron patches need core attention? | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | all patches | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | but all these patches do no guarantee a success rate anywhere close to 100% | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | what is the rate? | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | I have about 80% on my dev machine | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | ok | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | The problem is that ovs commands slow down under load, wiring takes longer, and happens after the vm sends the first DHCPDISCOVER | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | then the vms sends the second DHCPDISCOVER 60 seconds later, and that's too late | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | I have a few options for you: | 21:36 |
| marun | salv-orlando: are you using multiple api workers? | 21:36 |
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| salv-orlando | - change cirrus to send a DHCPDISCOVER more frequently | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | marun: it's the agent. | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | not the api | 21:36 |
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| salv-orlando | multiple api workers won't make ovs-vsctl and ovs-ofctl faster | 21:37 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: sorry for diverting, just want to point out that if multiple api workers are used the number of potential races increases. | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | what are the other options? | 21:37 |
| salv-orlando | another option is to don't bother trying the ssh connections until all the ports are ACTIVE, which might be tricky in scenario like test_snapshot_patter which apply to both nova-net and neutron | 21:37 |
| salv-orlando | marun: the gate does not yet use multiple api workers, unless I missed that change | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | and finally the last option is what I'm experimenting now: ovs 2.0 | 21:38 |
| marun | salv-orlando: correct, i wasn't sure if you were using it locally is all. | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | with multithreaded vswitchd | 21:38 |
| marun | salv-orlando: how does it look? | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | it looks like devstack does not start so far :( | 21:39 |
| marun | :( | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | so I don't know yet | 21:39 |
| marun | salv-orlando: what about the alternative - managing ovs state through a monitor to minimize ovs invocations? | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | but I just wanted to ask you whether you see any of the above options as totally unfeasible | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | it's not about monitoring ovs, but acting on it. The slow commands are the ones which destroy./setup flows and configure the data plane | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | the only one that might be problematic is waiting for the ports to become active | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | but if there's a way to use an async monitor for it | 21:40 |
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| salv-orlando | increasing DHCPDISCOVER in cirros might be not so easy as well | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | so let's see how it goes with ovs 2.0 | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | otherwise… what about the linux bridge agent :) | 21:42 |
| salv-orlando | or the HDN agent? | 21:42 |
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| markmcclain | yeah let's work towards 2.0 and see what happens | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | and if not let's kick off a ML discussion since we're missing so many folks today | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: Any other tempest items to discuss? | 21:43 |
| mlavalle | on the api test gap analysis front, I had a conversation earlier today with sdague. We are not developing negative api tests manually anymore. There will be soon a generative tool that will do this automatically. This simplifies a lot the gap analysis and the tests we need to implement. I will update the ether pad accordingly | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | good to know | 21:43 |
| mlavalle | finally, I am keeping tabs on people developing tests, as you can see in today's agenda | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | when the pad is updated can ping the list to let everyone know of the change | 21:43 |
| mlavalle | I will | 21:44 |
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| mlavalle | that's all I have | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | thanks for updating | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | Looks like all of the subteam reports are unchanged from last week | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:45 |
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| marun | i'm making good progress on a design doc for an eventually consistent dhcp agent | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | will you allow me to be the usual pedant annoying axxxxxe even if it's christmas? | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | marun: great news | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: yes | 21:46 |
| dkehn | devstack migrations failures and the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61663/ | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | can we just stop let third-party CIs vote if they're still WIPs? | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | yes | 21:47 |
| irenab | need some guidance on fix backporting to havana. Can somebody help, please? | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | #action markmcclain to reach out to mis-behaving 3rd party systems | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | irenab: do you need help on the process? | 21:48 |
| irenab | yes | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | irenab: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Workflow | 21:48 |
| irenab | markmclain: thanks | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | dkehn: the patch needs to fix trunk vs revising released migrations | 21:48 |
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| dkehn | thx | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | revising released migration causes problems for deployers | 21:49 |
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| dkehn | markmcclain: all I know is that you can't pull from trunk and get devstack to work | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | dkehn: you sure? we have items passing the gate each day | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | and that's exactly what they do | 21:50 |
| marun | markmcclain: i have that same problem | 21:50 |
| beagles | same | 21:51 |
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| marun | markmcclain: whatever the gate is doing, it's not replicating developer use well enough to prevent breakage | 21:51 |
| dkehn | markmcclain: this when you run locally | 21:51 |
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| dkehn | bingo | 21:52 |
| marun | oh, i know what it is | 21:52 |
| marun | damnit | 21:52 |
| marun | it's lbaas | 21:52 |
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| markmcclain | marun: ??? | 21:52 |
| marun | the gate works because it enables lbaas by default | 21:52 |
| dkehn | marun: explain | 21:52 |
| dkehn | ok | 21:52 |
| marun | enabling lbaas ensures that a migration that fixes the problem is run | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | makes sense | 21:53 |
| marun | for those of us that by haven't configured lbaas, devstack is broken at present | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | I test with lbaas running locally | 21:53 |
| marun | so, at least we have a workaround. but a fix is still needed. | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | right | 21:53 |
| salv-orlando | marun is correct, I encountered the same problem. There is a specific migration which so far is triggered only if the lbaas service plugin is enabled | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | well that should make it easier to craft a good set of changes to fix the bad migrations | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | Any other items for open discussion? | 21:56 |
| dkehn | so basically lbaas MUST be enabled fto work locally | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | dkehn: right let's discuss in -neutron after the meeting | 21:57 |
| dkehn | ok | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | I think this affects also production deployments, not just devstack. | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: right | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | We're out of time this week, so we'll jump into -neutron to continue this discussion | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | and I have no idea about how to back port without creating a branch in alembic migrations | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | k see you there | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | Expect the community to be pretty quiet over the next 10 days, so email might be best way to communicate since many will be on holiday | 21:59 |
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| markmcclain | For those traveling for the holidays.. safe travels and our next meeting will be Jan 6th | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 23 22:01:04 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-23-21.02.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-23-21.02.txt | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: meh I actually think I'll be one of the quiet ones | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-23-21.02.log.html | 22:01 |
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| s3wong | Meeting topic still 'neutron lbass'? | 22:02 |
| s3wong | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
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| amotoki | s3wong: the previous meeting was "neutron" meeeting. It is just over. | 22:04 |
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