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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 17 16:00:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi guys | 16:00 |
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| NikolayM | hi! | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | let's wait for a couple of minutes | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | hopefully other folks will appear soon | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | is there anyone else here except NikolayM? | 16:02 |
| NikolayM | hmm | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's quickly capture the main things for record | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | #topic previous AIs | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "previous AIs (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:04 | |
| tnurlygayanov | yes | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, one more team member ) | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | it's promising :) | 16:05 |
| tnurlygayanov | I write the email about pylint errors ) | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:05 |
| stanlagun | :) | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | and one more :) | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | cool | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | I was about to wrap up the meeting )) | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | ok, as for AIs we had 4 of them | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | they are all basically related with DSL and can be condensed into one simple sentence "continue discussing DSL in ML" | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | so we're doing it | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | the new team members have lots of ideas so we keep discussing all these things | 16:08 |
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| stanlagun | ML = Mistral or Markup Language? | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | sorry, ML = Mailing List | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | so, now we're concentrated on development and the progress on forming up DSL is not tremendous but it's moving on anyway | 16:09 |
| stanlagun | There is an ongoing thread about DSL in Murano. I think we need to discuss if ther are possibilities to make two DSLs somehow similar | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, today I replied to a Clint Byrum's message about it and wrote the same thing | 16:10 |
| igormarnat_ | rakhmerov, is there status of PoC in agenda for today? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | the idea seems to be interesting | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:11 | |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM has been working on direct transitions (a part of the new requirements) | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, can you please report your status on that? My understanding is that you've almost finished but you may be able to provide more detailes | 16:12 |
| NikolayM | I can say that it has been already implemented | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | do you see any additional work on that that we might need to do after we get all pieces together? (data flow, conditions etc.) | 16:13 |
| NikolayM | and also I work on new internal DSL structure | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:14 |
| igormarnat_ | rakhmerov, NikolayM, speaking of status, is the roadmap still valid from PoC point of view? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/Roadmap | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | yes, since we have a context here, we can do and test our DataFlow | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | igormarnat_, yes, that's what we're trying to follow | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, ok, I see | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | so, I'm working on Data Flow, made a series of changes and wait for NikolayM's commit to be merged | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | so that I can add my changes on top of it | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | here it is | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72347/ | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | the new folks on the team are working on the following Blueprints | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-std-send-email-action - good progress (almost done) | 16:18 |
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| tnurlygayanov | yes, we have new patch set for the second part of implementation | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-std-repeat-action - started (there are some issues with design but close to be resolved) | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | aha | 16:20 |
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| tnurlygayanov | ? | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | so, I believe we have a chance to finish most of the development this week and then we need to finish all the testing and make Demo scenario work | 16:20 |
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| tnurlygayanov | cool | 16:21 |
| tnurlygayanov | what we also should prepare for the demo? | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, did you have questions? | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | well, I already created a simple DSL and a python script to upload it into Mistral that could serve as a Demo application | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | Dmitri Zimine thinks it's too simple for a Demo and he also would like to rip something out of it | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | I mean "requires" clause | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | the second one we can do even though I think it's not a problem to make it work along with direct transitions | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | as for simplicity, I'm ok to do something more complex but first we at least need to make this one work | 16:24 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | btw, tnurlygayanov, as I remember you wanted to help with Demo :) | 16:25 |
| tnurlygayanov | yes | 16:25 |
| tnurlygayanov | and the main issue - what should do the python-based web application | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | you were going to create a simple web app in python that could receive just one HTTP request and return something (i.e. an array of random numbers for now) | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | yes, let's do something simple for now | 16:26 |
| tnurlygayanov | but it does not look cool ) ok. | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | like I said, at least we need to make this simple example work :) | 16:27 |
| igormarnat_ | Let's do a calc as a web app | 16:27 |
| tnurlygayanov | just simple, ok, where I can save this demo app? | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | calc? | 16:27 |
| igormarnat_ | Distributed cloud calculator:) | 16:27 |
| tnurlygayanov | as a service | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | yep, we can do that | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | CaaS? :) | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | Timur, please commit it to mistral-extra/examples/vm_job | 16:28 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok, thank you. | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | there you can find a DSL example and the script I mentioned before | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | calc is a good idea actially | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | for example, we can send an expression like "2+2" to it and it can return "4" in a response :) | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | but again, my point here: let's not wait much time for it now, we can always complicate the example as we finish our current changes | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | ...let's not spend... | 16:31 |
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| igormarnat_ | +1 for simplicity, but it should be something simple and meaningful | 16:32 |
| tnurlygayanov | https://github.com/justinxreese/ajax-calculator-flask/blob/master/hello.py | 16:32 |
| tnurlygayanov | ))) | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | you can steal it ;) | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | kidding | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's continue | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, so overall I would estimate PoC readiness around 80% | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | do you guys have any other topics to discuss? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | I thought we could discuss DSL again with Dmitri but looks like he's not here today | 16:34 |
| dzimine | I am here but no point beating the dead horse, we have enough agreement on DSL for PoC and are marking things to discuss after | 16:35 |
| igormarnat_ | Are there documented specific open questions about DSL? | 16:35 |
| dzimine | I am keeping track of them | 16:35 |
| igormarnat_ | Cool | 16:35 |
| dzimine | will organize and share | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | Dmitry, hey, how's it going? | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | agree with you | 16:37 |
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| igormarnat_ | So we're done, aren't we? | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | like I mentioned in our email exchanges we need to start a new etherpad and try to summarize all our ideas there | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | we are done unless you have anything else to discuss :) | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, just one thing I'd like to ask | 16:38 |
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| dzimine | yes? | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | actually one thing to say and one to ask :) | 16:38 |
| dzimine | shoot | 16:39 |
| tnurlygayanov | and also we can discuss bugs, for example, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1281164 | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | to say: your commit (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73205/) is about to land, good work! | 16:39 |
| dzimine | thanks :) | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | to ask: do you know the status of Manas on repeater? | 16:40 |
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| dzimine | As of Fri last week, he was looking at it and wanted to check with you when closer. | 16:40 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | and as I know he was on vacation till last Fri | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | please let him know I'm ready to discuss with him whatever he needs to make progress on that task | 16:41 |
| dzimine | The problem is it he wasn't sure how to map it to the current way the engine works. Discussion needed. | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok, sure | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | I know it's a hairy thing, I would encourage to write his thoughts right into openstack-dev so that all the team could start thinking about it | 16:42 |
| dzimine | Are we sure to have it for POC? Doing internal actions, like repeater, may shake the engine. | 16:43 |
| dzimine | Let's wait for Manas to come back on it. I'll ping him today. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | as for doing it in POC, I have some concerns, yes | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | the whole question is "what is it going to take to make it work?" | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | so let's discuss first and estimate the efforts | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | #action Manas, summarize all ideas on std:repeater (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-std-repeat-action) and start a discussion with the team | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | alright | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | are we done now? | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm gonna wait for one more minute and then shut the meeting down | 16:46 |
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| dzimine | just one thing... | 16:46 |
| dzimine | How about we set some core hours where we can overlap on IRC | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | #action Timur, create a simple web app in python that can serve one request (e.g. calculator) | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | core hours, hm... | 16:48 |
| dzimine | for quick questions. say on our side we can commit to be on openstack-mistral when we are working / avaialbe. If Nikolay/Timur/Renat can do something like this. | 16:48 |
| dzimine | Forget the hours, just when you up and working and available for chat. | 16:48 |
| dzimine | Just an idea. Sometimes email is too slow. | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | Mostly I'm on IRC in my hours :) | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | but we have a huge time difference | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I agree we need to establish that | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | folks in Russia all have different availability | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | I'll check everything again and let you know | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | #action Renat, check availability of all the team members and make sure we have overlapping hours with people in the US | 16:50 |
| dzimine | Let's not hang up on time, but just be on irc when available. | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | :) sounds like we're not in IRC sometimes | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's be more careful on this | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | anything else? | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's finish for today | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | thanks to everyone for coming today | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | let's meet in one week | 16:54 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:54 |
| dzimine | by! | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 16:54:37 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-02-17-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-02-17-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-02-17-16.00.log.html | 16:54 |
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| devananda | who's all here for the Ironic meeting? | 18:59 |
| agordeev2 | o/ | 18:59 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 18:59 |
| matty_dubs | \o | 18:59 |
| lucasagomes | me | 18:59 |
| linggao | me | 18:59 |
| ifarkas | \o | 18:59 |
| k4n0 | \o | 18:59 |
| NobodyCam | hi linggao | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:00 |
| max_lobur | o/ | 19:00 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 17 19:00:25 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| linggao | Hi NobodyCam, nice to be back. | 19:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| devananda | it's great to see lots of familiar faces :) | 19:00 |
| devananda | as usual, our rough agenda is here | 19:00 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:00 |
| devananda | #topic announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| devananda | one brief annoucement | 19:01 |
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| devananda | i emailed the list this morning but want to call it out | 19:01 |
| devananda | ifyou submitted a patch over the weekend and jenkins -1'd it for a py26 failure | 19:01 |
| devananda | that's fixed now :) | 19:01 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: any other announcements? | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | i'd like to announce that we have start Review jams on mondays and thrusdays | 19:02 |
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| NobodyCam | s/start/started/ | 19:02 |
| devananda | ah, right | 19:02 |
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| devananda | in an effort to get our review queue moving faster... | 19:02 |
| linggao | what are jams? | 19:03 |
| mrda | so NobodyCam, what's a review jam? | 19:03 |
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| devananda | as many -core folks as can make it all get online together and focus just on doing code reviews for a few hours | 19:03 |
| k4n0 | sounds good | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | ya that ^^ | 19:03 |
| linggao | ah | 19:03 |
| devananda | we'll note the time(s) of them on the ML, and if you're in channel you'll probably see a lot of chatter | 19:03 |
| mrda | great! | 19:04 |
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| devananda | and we're stashing notes as we go, follow up cnocerns, etc, here | 19:04 |
| devananda | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicReviewDay | 19:04 |
| devananda | ok, moving on | 19:04 |
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| devananda | i'm actually going to skip our regular topics for the moment (they'll get covered by other topics though) | 19:04 |
| devananda | #topic Icehouse-3 planning | 19:05 |
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| NobodyCam | ahh yes | 19:05 |
| devananda | I sent a rather lengthy email to the list last week | 19:05 |
| devananda | someone want to dig up the link? (I dont have it handy) | 19:05 |
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| lucasagomes | lemme find it | 19:05 |
| devananda | tl;dr - I outlined the various technical deficits between where we are today and what we need to graduate in Icehouse and become an integrated project | 19:06 |
| devananda | some of them are well under way... | 19:06 |
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| devananda | and some of them look likely to prevent our graduation | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/026962.html | 19:06 |
| devananda | such as docs, the nova driver, and integration tests | 19:06 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: thanks | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | we should be seeing some doc reviews shortly (this week I'm hoping) | 19:07 |
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| mrda | so by nova driver you also mean a 3rd party ci in place? | 19:07 |
| devananda | russellb's feedback there is that we need to have the nova driver landed and fully CI'd (devstack + tempest doing functional tests of it) | 19:07 |
| devananda | before we can land | 19:07 |
| devananda | mrda: no | 19:07 |
| devananda | mrda: in this context, third party CI means things like the SeaMicro and HP iLO drivers in Ironic | 19:08 |
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| devananda | those are not part of the graudation requirement | 19:08 |
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| mrda | so we're planning on using infra ci all the way except for driver testing, right? | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | for nova driver we will need to start poking people?? | 19:08 |
| devananda | mrda: we can rely on infra for CI of the SSH and PXE drivers | 19:08 |
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| devananda | mrda: we can't do either IPMI, or the 3rd party drivers, in infra's CI today -- and that's OK | 19:09 |
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| devananda | we'll need it eventually (probably by Juno) and we should get a lot of that from tripleo-ci | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, +1 I haven't seem many reviews on the nova ironic driver patches | 19:09 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yes, start poking people in nova | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70348/ | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | ^^^^ needed for devstack CI | 19:10 |
| devananda | russellb: any one in particular who we should start nagging for feedback on our nova driver patches? | 19:10 |
| mrda | I think that's a chicken and egg problem actually. | 19:10 |
| mrda | I don't think we'll get the review focus we'd like until there's confidence that the patches will work. | 19:10 |
| devananda | russellb: or do we need to wait even on gettign review feedback until we have CI in place? | 19:11 |
| devananda | for CI, we need devstack able to create the necessary environment (net bridge, bunch of VMs, SSH key, etc) | 19:12 |
| devananda | devstack should accept such a patch before the driver's in Nova. we'll then create an infra job in the experimental pipe to exercise that part of devstack | 19:12 |
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| devananda | and trigger it only on the nova review that is the tail of our driver patch chain | 19:12 |
| devananda | (yea, it's a chain, not just one patch) | 19:13 |
| mrda | I think nova driver won't get review until the ci is ready, so I think we need to focus there, FWIW. | 19:13 |
| devananda | mrda: I agree | 19:13 |
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| NobodyCam | mrda: ++ | 19:13 |
| devananda | which is why i'm bringing it up at the start of our meeting :) | 19:13 |
| devananda | cause if we don't get that ASAP, we won't graduate, even if the rest of Ironic is working | 19:13 |
| ifarkas | devananda, what type of net bridge is needed for devstack? is there a patch for that? | 19:13 |
| devananda | hmmm, where's romcheg .... | 19:14 |
| mrda | (was in UT last week and chatted to some Nova cores informally) | 19:14 |
| devananda | agordeev2: hi! | 19:14 |
| agordeev2 | devananda: hi! | 19:14 |
| devananda | agordeev2: are you around / still working on the devstack patch for Ironic? see the conversation ^^ ? :) | 19:14 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70348/ | 19:15 |
| devananda | that ^ is the start of getting devstack to do what we need | 19:15 |
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| agordeev2 | devananda: yes, i do. I'm going to pay more attention to it tomorrow | 19:15 |
| devananda | great | 19:15 |
| agordeev2 | and on the that week too | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | agordeev2: great | 19:15 |
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| devananda | i'm going to start testing / hacking on it this week | 19:16 |
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| agordeev2 | for now only one question. What sort of linux distro is preffered for the infra CI ? | 19:17 |
| devananda | if anyone's familiar with devstack or CI already, this'd be a great place to help out right now. it's a critical path item for the next month or so | 19:17 |
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| NobodyCam | is GheRivero here? | 19:17 |
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| devananda | clarkb: what distro is tempest run on? | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | GheRivero: ^^^^ ????? | 19:17 |
| clarkb | devananda: precise | 19:18 |
| devananda | clarkb: thanks | 19:18 |
| agordeev2 | tripleo-incubator script heavily relies on --persistent virsh option which is not possible on precise. | 19:18 |
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| devananda | agordeev2: which script? | 19:18 |
| devananda | ah, setup-network | 19:19 |
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| agordeev2 | create-node also | 19:19 |
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| lucasagomes | agordeev2, I usually test things on fedora for e.g to write that pad with the steps to deploy a machine etc... (note I work for rh) | 19:19 |
| devananda | agordeev2: infra's tempest nodes are ephemeral (destroyed after one test run) | 19:20 |
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| devananda | agordeev2: do we need --persistent? if not, it should be easy to patch triplei-incubator to remove that option when run on precise | 19:20 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: there was something about in hipchat this mornig ... I did not read all of it | 19:21 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: for the CI stuff, any chance you can work on precise so we're all focusing on the same issues (at least for now, until we have some CI, then add fedora support) | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah sure I can do that | 19:22 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: thanks :) | 19:22 |
| devananda | any more questions/concerns on CI? | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | concerns: neutron integration | 19:23 |
| agordeev2 | devananda: yes. What about neutron support? | 19:23 |
| devananda | ahh | 19:23 |
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| devananda | yea, well, we depend on neutron to set the DHCP BOOT option | 19:23 |
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| devananda | by "we" i mean the PXE driver, which is our reference deploy driver implementation | 19:24 |
| devananda | so yea, to do CI with the Nova driver, we need to enable Neutron in those tempest tests | 19:24 |
| devananda | and yea, we're kinda tied to Neutron's gate issues .... | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | right, btw lemme ask something... we have this integration with neutron but not with nova network right? | 19:24 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: right | 19:24 |
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| lucasagomes | cause nova network doesn't know how to handle pxe boots? | 19:25 |
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| devananda | nova-net doesn't haev an API for setting the DHCP BOOT option | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | ah ack... cause I was looking at the code to see if nova bm does have a nova net integration | 19:26 |
| lucasagomes | thanks | 19:26 |
| devananda | and we dont have a nova-net client linked in to ironic/drivers/modules/pxe | 19:26 |
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| devananda | now that nova-net is no longer feature frozen, i suppose it might be possible to add it there | 19:26 |
| mrda | hmmm, devananda, is it an option to retrofit DHCP BOOT into nova-network? I'm not sure we want to be tied to neutron. | 19:26 |
| devananda | mrda: see ^ :) | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | that going to be really tuff to retofit in a month | 19:27 |
| mrda | yup | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ahh that's interesting, yea we should keep our eyes on that, cause if someone add an integration to nova bm and nova net we would have to add it to ironic too in order to have pair functionality with nov abm | 19:27 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: yep | 19:28 |
| devananda | ok, moving on before we run out of time :) | 19:28 |
| devananda | #topic feature freeze | 19:28 |
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| devananda | so, two things | 19:28 |
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| devananda | 1. lots of projects agreed to stop accepting new code submissions after the 18th. we probably can't follow suit since we have so much to do | 19:29 |
| devananda | 2. I3 is supposed to be global featuer freeze, and we need to adhere to that | 19:29 |
| devananda | caveat is FFE's - feature freeze exceptions | 19:30 |
| linggao | what is the date for I3? | 19:30 |
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| NobodyCam | do we have ffe for nova driver bits already? | 19:30 |
| lucasagomes | linggao, march 6th (I think, lemme search) | 19:30 |
| devananda | we haev a lot to do before Icehouse... i'd like to ask that folks prioritize reviews and new code based on what is in the critical path to graduation | 19:30 |
| linggao | lucasagomes, thanks | 19:31 |
| mrda | I3 is March 6, although string freeze is 2 days earlier | 19:31 |
| devananda | mrda: thanks | 19:32 |
| mrda | (and string freeze also means feature freeze) | 19:32 |
| mrda | so March 4 | 19:32 |
| devananda | so that week, a lot of us will be at the code sprint in SJC | 19:32 |
| linggao | So I'll talk to Sun Jing to make sure we finish the console bp by that date. | 19:32 |
| matty_dubs | linggao: Are you folks working on that? I had started to take a look at the console BP as well. | 19:32 |
| devananda | the weekend before (Mar 2) I'll go through and block (-2) any large patches that aren't critical to graduation | 19:32 |
| matty_dubs | I will stand down if you are doing it. Or I'm happy to help. | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | linggao: before that date... needs to land by the 6th | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | linggao, ack, you guys might want to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72998/ | 19:33 |
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| linggao | matty_dubs, yes. Sun Jing is still working on 64100 | 19:34 |
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| linggao | NobodyCam, yes. | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:34 |
| devananda | I'll also bump any BP's that aren't implemented by March 2 | 19:34 |
| matty_dubs | linggao: OK, excellent. I was worried she had been preoccupied. Let me know if I can lend a hand. | 19:34 |
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| linggao | matty_dubs, thanks. | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | awesome thank you matty_dubs | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:35 |
| devananda | linggao, matty_dubs: if you guys can get the console done by then, that's great -- if it's mostly done, I think a FFE would be fine, too | 19:35 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yes, we should file an FFE with Nova for our driver as soon as Nova starts accepting them | 19:35 |
| russellb | devananda: just saw your message. i'm not sure of anyone in particular. If we think it's going to miss Icehouse, probably best to just put off review while we focus on Icehouse items, honestly | 19:36 |
| linggao | devananda, I'll talk to Sun Jing tonight and let you by tomorrow. | 19:36 |
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| devananda | russellb: that's the largest item // most likely to cause us to miss graduation at this point, so I'm going to focus on it for the next few weeks | 19:36 |
| russellb | OK | 19:37 |
| russellb | sounds like consensus is to block on CI | 19:37 |
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| devananda | russellb: if you know that there's no chance of it landing, let me know soon so i don't kill myself trying :) | 19:37 |
| russellb | i think CI is the sticking point | 19:37 |
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| russellb | i definitely don't think you should kill yourself over it | 19:38 |
| russellb | but I think CI in place will then get people reviewing it | 19:38 |
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| devananda | russellb: ack. my concern is the ramifications of ironic not graduating, eg. for tripleo // projects based on nova being able to provision physical machines | 19:38 |
| russellb | understood | 19:38 |
| devananda | russellb: many of which are counting on functionality in Ironic and likely to start using it even if it doesn't get integrated | 19:39 |
| devananda | not that that's a reason for Nova to accept something without CI :) | 19:39 |
| russellb | right.. | 19:39 |
| russellb | but those projects have nova-baremetal in the meantime, in theory | 19:40 |
| devananda | which has some significant limitations (no HA, no support for vendors) | 19:40 |
| devananda | anyhow, i'll see how much progress we can make on CI in a very short time | 19:41 |
| devananda | thanks :) | 19:41 |
| devananda | ok, moving on | 19:41 |
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| devananda | #topic code cleanup | 19:41 |
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| devananda | there've been several patches by folks doing code cleanup | 19:42 |
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| devananda | i'd like to know how folks feel about this -- should we review? or postpone in light of upcoming featuer freeze? | 19:42 |
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| lucasagomes | we need to prioritize the more important patches | 19:43 |
| max_lobur | I think if we have time to review - it's better to spent it on critical items | 19:43 |
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| max_lobur | and cleanup is low priority | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | if it's a _small_ patch fixing some comestic problems it's fine, but larger patches or series might be postponed | 19:43 |
| NobodyCam | I feel small cleanup patches are good, but larger ones that remove functionalyity are tuffer | 19:43 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: + | 19:44 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ++ | 19:44 |
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| matty_dubs | I thought we talked about this at the last meeting, noting that they should be merged very soon if it's going to happen | 19:44 |
| matty_dubs | Or maybe that was your email, devananda? | 19:44 |
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| matty_dubs | (I don't have a strong opinion either way, though) | 19:44 |
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| devananda | matty_dubs: yea, we did briefly, but folks are still proposing more | 19:45 |
| devananda | matty_dubs: i'm hesitating on -2'ing until there's concensus | 19:45 |
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| matty_dubs | Ah, okay. | 19:45 |
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| devananda | example of small fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74114/ | 19:45 |
| devananda | example of big code cleanup: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73223/ | 19:46 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: yea ! | 19:46 |
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| devananda | so, cores, please vote | 19:46 |
| devananda | (lets see if i get the syntax right) | 19:46 |
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| max_lobur | 74114 is follow-up one | 19:47 |
| max_lobur | :) | 19:47 |
| devananda | #startvote Should we block any further large code cleanups until after Juno opens? (+1 == yes, -1 == no) | 19:47 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we block any further large code cleanups until after Juno opens? Valid vote options are , +1, yes, -1, no, . | 19:47 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | #vote for small comestic clean up patchs only | 19:47 |
| openstack | NobodyCam: for small comestic clean up patchs only is not a valid option. Valid options are , +1, yes, -1, no, . | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | #vote +1 | 19:47 |
| devananda | #vote +1 | 19:47 |
| max_lobur | #vote +1 | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | #vote +1 | 19:48 |
| devananda | 4/6, two not present | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | but just to make clear, I don't see problem in people proposing new patches | 19:48 |
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| max_lobur | this means we still tend to merge all what we have till now right? | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | but they will hang in the queue for a while | 19:48 |
| max_lobur | at least those ones that we already looked on | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | ya is -2 needed | 19:48 |
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| devananda | max_lobur: ah, just to be clear, i'll go -2 existing large code refactorings that aren't functional changes | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | new patches fixing costemic problems I mean... and larger ones | 19:48 |
| max_lobur | devananda: + | 19:49 |
| max_lobur | need to cleanup queue | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | just a novote coment should hold other cores form approving | 19:49 |
| max_lobur | so that's appropriate way I think | 19:49 |
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| max_lobur | or we may ask to abandon change | 19:49 |
| max_lobur | so It can be restored later | 19:49 |
| devananda | ok. does that change anyone's vote? last chance :) | 19:49 |
| max_lobur | that's the same basically :) | 19:50 |
| devananda | right | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | heh I gotta think more about -2'ing it tho | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | I mean, I don't see the problem in leaving it on the queue | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | other people might want to review them | 19:50 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: the folks who proposed it will continue to spend cycles maintaing it | 19:50 |
| NobodyCam | leaving it also means someone new wont re perpsoe it | 19:50 |
| max_lobur | if we won't going to merge them nearest time they will stale | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | in a new patch | 19:51 |
| devananda | right | 19:51 |
| max_lobur | and reviews will stale too | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | right hmm | 19:51 |
| devananda | it blocks up the review queue and gives the impression it will be reviweed | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | we /deffered/ status | 19:51 |
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| max_lobur | let's someone who have time to review doing this on our critical patches :) | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | heh | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | yea makes sense | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | ok agreed | 19:51 |
| devananda | alternative is we all go land them now, and start refactoring all the in-flight critical patches to work with the new cleanup state of things | 19:52 |
| devananda | ok :) | 19:52 |
| devananda | #endvote | 19:52 |
| openstack | Voted on "Should we block any further large code cleanups until after Juno opens?" Results are | 19:52 |
| openstack | +1 (4): max_lobur, NobodyCam, devananda, lucasagomes | 19:52 |
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| devananda | thanks guys | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | I will agree to -2 aslong as it comes with a good comemnt to the dev | 19:52 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: aboslutely | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, +2 | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 19:52 |
| devananda | #action devananda to post to ML regarding large code cleanups prior to -2'ing them | 19:53 |
| max_lobur | NobodyCam: fair | 19:53 |
| max_lobur | +1 | 19:53 |
| devananda | ok, ~7 min left | 19:53 |
| devananda | #topic Open Discussion | 19:53 |
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| k4n0 | Any reviews on SeaMicro blueprints? | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: are you going to be able to get the rebased nova driver patches up today or is it too late for you? | 19:54 |
| devananda | k4n0: given that it's not critical to icehouse graduation, i wouldn't count on core reviewers having a lot of time for it until Juno opens | 19:54 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, I started it today, but I would finish tomorrow | 19:54 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:54 |
| k4n0 | devananda: ok | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, if you need it I can try to finish up | 19:54 |
| max_lobur | folks, have you seen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74063/ comments | 19:55 |
| devananda | k4n0: that said, I'll continue to try to look at all teh 3rd party drivers from time to time and give feedback | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | ack : no its holiday here today | 19:55 |
| devananda | quick note since I see someone added "Functional/Integration testing of vendor drivers (Tempest?)" to the agenda | 19:55 |
| k4n0 | devananda: yes, the feedback is more important, they can land whenever time permits | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, right, tomorrow morning I finish it up :) (and it will be pretty early there in US so it's grand) | 19:56 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, thanks | 19:56 |
| k4n0 | I want to discuss some sort of driver model to extend the chassis object for vendor specific purpose. Any comments? | 19:56 |
| devananda | 3rd party CI isn't needed for Icehouse. we'll want to discuss it in depth at the Summit, though | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: Awesome TY :) | 19:56 |
| devananda | k4n0: my guess is that you're looking for a way to drivers to do $thing without needing a node to act on | 19:56 |
| devananda | k4n0: eg, discovery, or something | 19:57 |
| k4n0 | devananda: yes :) | 19:57 |
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| devananda | k4n0: i'm not sure chassis is the right place for that, but in general, yep, we'll need that. maybe propose something to the summit? :) | 19:57 |
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| k4n0 | devananda: from a vendor's pov, chassis actions can be exposed from the chassis object, right? | 19:58 |
| devananda | k4n0: from API perspectiev, yes. but there is also an API end point for drivers | 19:58 |
| NobodyCam | - One Minute - | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | can we contine inchannel? | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | + | 19:59 |
| devananda | k4n0: so eg. discovery may make more sense as POST /v1/drivers/seamicro/discover {'range': '10.0.0.0/24'} | 19:59 |
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| devananda | yep | 19:59 |
| k4n0 | ok ,lets discuss inchan | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | Great meeting Thank you all | 19:59 |
| k4n0 | thanks | 19:59 |
| devananda | cheers, thanks everyone | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | thanks Everyone! | 19:59 |
| ifarkas | thanks! | 19:59 |
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| lucasagomes | thanks | 19:59 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 19:59:58 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-02-17-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-02-17-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-02-17-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting milk | 20:02 |
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| sarob | Anyone here for milk meet? | 20:03 |
| sarob | #info milk meeting cancelled due to US holiday | 20:04 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 20:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 20:04:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-02-17-20.02.html | 20:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-02-17-20.02.txt | 20:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-02-17-20.02.log.html | 20:04 |
| MrJoshua | Oh I see where, here. Sorry for being late. | 20:04 |
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| sweston | greetings! | 21:00 |
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| mestery | howdy everyone! | 21:00 |
| devlaps1 | o/ | 21:00 |
| pcm_ | yo | 21:00 |
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| emagana | hola! | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | arosen1, rkukura: ping | 21:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:01 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 17 21:02:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
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| armax | hello | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcments | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | #info Oleg Bondarev (obandarev) is our newest core reviewer | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | Welcome to Oleg! | 21:03 |
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| mestery | Congrats obandarev! | 21:03 |
| marun | welcome! | 21:03 |
| nati_ueno | hi! | 21:04 |
| emagana | Congratulation obondarev | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #info Feature proposal deadline is the end of day tomorrow (Feb 18th) | 21:04 |
| nati_ueno | Congrats obondarev | 21:04 |
| pcm_ | yea! | 21:04 |
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| amotoki | congrats oleg | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | We have many blueprints that do not have any code associated with them | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | I will move any blueprints that do not have associated with them out of Icehouse | 21:06 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: that will be tomorrow right? | 21:06 |
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| salv-orlando | just saying because I have one for which I'm finishing the code, and I was planning to push it tomorrow | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: correct.. as long as it is Feb 17th somewhere in the world, code can be submitted | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | ah I thought 18th | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | if there oops you're right 18th | 21:07 |
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| salv-orlando | ok, that's fine then | 21:07 |
| gongysh | oops? :( | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | yeah gongysh markmcclain had a kernel panic | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: sorry forgot to delete 'if' | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | he's rebboting now | 21:08 |
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| gongysh | :) got it. | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | end of the day Feb 18th is the cutoff | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | if there is an important blueprint that needs an extension, please send me a PM and we can discuss the options | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | after the cutoff we'll spend time reviewing and revising | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | Note: this deadline only applies to features and not bugs | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | Questions? | 21:11 |
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| nati_ueno | markmcclain: so codes shouldn't be WIP? | 21:11 |
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| markmcclain | nati_ueno: correct the proposal must be ready for review | 21:12 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: gotcha | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | #topic bugs | 21:12 |
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| markmcclain | The gate has been fairly stable since we got all of the fixes in place | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | we're currently working on new client release | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | Any other bugs the team should discuss? | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:14 |
| emagana | markmcclain: Hi There! | 21:14 |
| emagana | In order to keep it short I have updated the wiki with the list of high priority bugs | 21:14 |
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| emagana | most of them should be completed by this week (short fixes) | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | great thanks for updating the wiki | 21:15 |
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| emagana | I have requested the entire team to create BP or bugs or any new feature to be follow in icehouse | 21:15 |
| emagana | So, just a kind reminder.. besides all new drivers in services I have not seen any major feature change | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | seems like we need to crosscheck any commit messages with DocImpact | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | to make sure there is the corresponding doc fix or bug | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | emagana: currently right now we have not merged any major changes | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | I expect we'll have a few land over the next two weeks | 21:17 |
| emagana | markmcclain: what about OVS and LinuxBridge code? | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | emagana: until we have a migration script we'll have to carry them | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | hopefully we'll get more info in the ML2 update section | 21:17 |
| emagana | markmcclain: Got it! | 21:18 |
| emagana | ML2 team, please point me to any BP describing this process. | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova Parity | 21:18 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: thanks for the update | 21:18 |
| beagles | hi! | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | beagles: hi | 21:18 |
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| beagles | not much movement last week, many of the reviews that were pending still are... maybe because of the sync up? | 21:18 |
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| markmcclain | yeah a good chunk of the Nova team was in the meeting | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | I know I went through and looked at many of the Nova reviews | 21:19 |
| beagles | sweston and I were like ships in the night and missed each other, so we are going to sync up immediately after this meeting | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:20 |
| beagles | but that's pretty much it for now | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | beagles: thanks for updating | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | a few extra Nova bits | 21:20 |
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| markmcclain | First, it was good to sit down with many of the Nova core team last week | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | we were able to talk about ways to improve the workflow a bit | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | arosen1 has been working on a few of these items | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | one of the items the Nova team did ask is that when changes are made the Neutron module within Nova that we get a Neutron core to look at the changes | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | a review looking at the changes from the Neutron perspective if very helpful for them | 21:22 |
| gongysh | definitely | 21:23 |
| mestery | good idea markmcclain | 21:23 |
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| beagles | was there discussion about interaction with the VIF plugin? | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | beagles: a little bit | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | we discussed a few ways to make Nova wait until Neutron has notified that the port is ready before booting | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | Any other Nova items? | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:26 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: hi | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | The group contributing to api tests has been chugging along | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | You sent out an update via email earlier today: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/027362.html | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/027362.html | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | earlier today I sent a message to the ML | 21:26 |
| mlavalle | with all the patch sets classified to make it easy to cores help us review the code | 21:27 |
| mlavalle | as you can see in the message, we are covering the complete api | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | that email was very helpful, thank you for sending it out | 21:27 |
| mlavalle | we are in a good position to be done by the end of ichouse | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | icehouse^^^ | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | that's great news | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | I am also planning to create a view in gerrit, to make it even easier to review | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | awesome | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | that was an idea from the qa irc meeting of last week | 21:29 |
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| markmcclain | that's a good one | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have, thanks | 21:29 |
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| markmcclain | any questions on Tempest? | 21:29 |
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| enikanorov_ | i have one, but i'd like to leave it to open discussion | 21:30 |
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| enikanorov_ | it mostly technical | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_: ok | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | we'll move for now then | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | #topic L3 | 21:30 |
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| markmcclain | Doesn't look like carl_baldwin is around today | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | There was a meeting of the folks interested in DVR last week | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1XJY30ZM0K3xz1U4CVWaQuaqBotGadAFM1xl1UuLtbrk/ | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | Those are the latest slides for more info please be sure to join their IRC meeting | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:33 |
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| markmcclain | sc68cal: hi | 21:33 |
| sc68cal | hello | 21:33 |
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| sc68cal | There is nothing to really report since last week | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | just need to get some review attention, right? | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | yes | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | Any questions on IPv6? | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | mestery, rkukura: hi | 21:35 |
| mestery | markmcclain: hi! | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | this was raised earlier.. what is the status on the migration blueprint? | 21:37 |
| mestery | So, the main item here is that the Migration tool BP still doesn't have any code pushed out yet. | 21:37 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-deprecated-plugin-migration Migration Tool BP | 21:37 |
| mestery | Without that, we can't start deprecating Linuxbridge and OVS plugins | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | correct | 21:37 |
| mestery | rkukura and I got ahold of the assignee, but no code has been proposed yet. | 21:37 |
| mestery | So, it's kind of stuck right now I think. | 21:38 |
| rkukura | Would this be a candidate for an extension if someone else picks it up and does something as simple as possible? | 21:38 |
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| marun | markmcclain: I'm willing to take it on. | 21:38 |
| mestery | marun: That would be awesome! | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | marun: thank you for stepping up | 21:39 |
| rkukura | marun: +1 | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: yes this is definitely a candidate for an extension | 21:39 |
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| markmcclain | Besides a more reviews anything else to highlight? | 21:40 |
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| rkukura | nothing else new I can think of | 21:41 |
| mestery | Reviews for all the MDs proposed would be great to get from cores markmcclain | 21:41 |
| rkukura | all the generic stuff needed for SR-IOV is in review | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | ok and I've cleared any -2s due to testing requirements? | 21:42 |
| rkukura | on the neutron side, but not on nova | 21:42 |
| mestery | rkukura: I thought the PCI stuff on nova was moved out of Icehouse now by Russell? | 21:42 |
| mestery | I thought I saw an email about that. | 21:42 |
| mestery | I think his reasons were review cycles this late in Icehouse, let me find that and send it to you rkukura. | 21:43 |
| rkukura | mestery: Most likely some nova pieces won't make icehouse, but we should get the generic support into neutron if possible | 21:43 |
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| mestery | rkukura: Agreed on that point. | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. if there are any bits that are not generic let's temporarily move them to WIP | 21:44 |
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| mestery | That's all on ML2 from me this week. | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73500/ | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | that's the generic one we need to merge early right? | 21:46 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: one of them | 21:46 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: others are https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72452/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72334/ | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | I'll work on getting reviewers for those | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | Any other ML2 items? | 21:48 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: thanks! | 21:48 |
| rkukura | none from me | 21:48 |
| mestery | None here | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:49 |
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| markmcclain | nati_ueno: do we have the agent code yet? | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | or is it likely to miss? | 21:49 |
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| nati_ueno | markmcclain: sorry disconnected | 21:49 |
| nati_ueno | so topic is vpn? | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: no worries | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | yes was wondering that status of the agent | 21:50 |
| nati_ueno | We have WIP code for agent, and me and Rajesh is working on it. I think we can make it ready for review until tommorow | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: ok | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:50 |
| pcm_ | markmcclain: FYI, rebased VPNaaS Service Type Framework server code and updated review. | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | pcm_: thanks | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | I'll update wiki for how to use it | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | pcm_: Thanks. | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | That's all from me | 21:51 |
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| pcm_ | nati_ueno: np | 21:51 |
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| pcm_ | need reviews of it. | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | it is great if we can have Service Type Framework and SSL-VPN in icehouse | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:52 |
| pcm_ | i have vendor plugin out now and it depends on STF | 21:52 |
| emagana | nati_ueno: Could you also update docs besides the wiki? | 21:52 |
| nati_ueno | emagana: sure | 21:52 |
| emagana | nati_ueno: Thanks! | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | the important thing is that we get them right | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:53 |
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| pcm_ | i've been running STF for months now | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | Looks like we have several items needing review | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, things are ripe for review | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as with VPNaaS, STF is waiting for another core | 21:53 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | once, that gets in we have the firewall insertion patch | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | I added a comment about the relative lack of tests for that change | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | <10% of code | 21:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | STF? | 21:54 |
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| markmcclain | yes | 21:54 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok, i see that | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | Anything else on FWaaS? | 21:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | turning fwaas on in the gate | 21:55 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | running FWaaS tempest tests will require that | 21:55 |
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| markmcclain | I think we're probably ready to add it | 21:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | let's wait until Thursday | 21:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sure, whenever you decide | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | I'll follow up with on Thursday | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | sure | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_ and I have been discussing models in the main channel, so I know the status of the subteam | 21:56 |
| enikanorov_ | hi, so we have to put on hold l7 feature until the isntance approach is sorted out | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:57 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov_: you had an open discussion topic | 21:57 |
| enikanorov_ | yeah, that's a question about lbaas tempest scenario | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | we only have 3 minutes, so may have to jump over to -neutron to finish discussing | 21:57 |
| enikanorov_ | may be someone culd tell if running http backends on the host (instead of tenant network) is a good idea | 21:58 |
| enikanorov_ | that could save a VM spinup | 21:58 |
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| enikanorov_ | but maybe it's not a real-life case | 21:58 |
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| marun | i'm not of the opinion that we need vm's for all network testing | 21:58 |
| marun | unless there is vm-specific config required | 21:59 |
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| markmcclain | so this would be spinning up a server process in a namespace? | 21:59 |
| enikanorov_ | marun: agree. but then loadbalancer will access members which are out of tenant network | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | and then having it load balanced? | 21:59 |
| enikanorov_ | markmcclain: no | 21:59 |
| enikanorov_ | we can't do so because in that case test will not be generic | 21:59 |
| enikanorov_ | so other solutions (other than haproxy) will not work | 22:00 |
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| markmcclain | yeah I think we should spin up the members as normal | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | even if it is slower | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | otherwise we're testing a case that isn't representative of deployment | 22:00 |
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| enikanorov_ | ok, good to know your opinion | 22:01 |
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| enikanorov_ | so in fact we have 2 patches (with both variants) | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I'll look for them | 22:01 |
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| enikanorov_ | so far i tend to go with VM approach as well | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | Ok we're over our allotted time | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | the only item I had is that we're adding parallel testing in non voting mode: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74131/ … I've run some parallel tests already with 'check experimental', and I'm quite positive we can switch the test to voting before I-3 deadline. The only observed issue so far is the 'famous' SSH protocol banner error, which however seems related to floating IP reassignment. I will look into that, I'm not even sure whethe | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | it's a neutron or testing issue. | 22:01 |
| enikanorov_ | especially when other approach not working well :) | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: +1 to enabling parallel testing | 22:02 |
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| salv-orlando | as long as it works quite reliably I'm happy too. But we should triage it as non voting for 1-2 weeks | 22:02 |
| salv-orlando | at least | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | agreed | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | Thanks to everyone for stopping by this week. We have a lot of exciting items in review. | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 17 22:03:49 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-02-17-21.02.html | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-02-17-21.02.txt | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-02-17-21.02.log.html | 22:03 |
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