Friday, 2014-04-11

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alex_xu	good morning/evening everyone	00:01
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cyeoh	#startmeeting nova-api	00:01
openstack	Meeting started Fri Apr 11 00:01:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cyeoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	00:01
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cyeoh	Hi - so who's here today?	00:01
oomichi	Hi!	00:01
alex_xu	Hi!	00:02
cyeoh	ok, let's get started	00:02
cyeoh	#topic v2 on v3 API POC	00:02
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cyeoh	so I added a couple of patches to the v2 on v3 API POC patch series	00:03
cyeoh	#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85879/	00:03
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cyeoh	#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85927/	00:03
oomichi	cyeoh: good work:)	00:03
cyeoh	those two combined delay the generation of API error messages until the wsgi point	00:03
cyeoh	so we can translate field names.	00:04
cyeoh	oomichi: thx :-)	00:04
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cyeoh	in practice it might need a bit more work eventually if we end up with deeply hierarchal translations required	00:04
cyeoh	but from what I saw of the translation dicts we have so far, its not needed yet, and it demonstrates we can do it.	00:04
cyeoh	I'd appreciate a review of them if you have time	00:05
manslaughter	sorry I'm late (I'm mrda not on Fridays)	00:05
cyeoh	manslaughter: hah, excellent nick :-)	00:05
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c_yoyo	so the other one I added was Add logging capability to API input validation	00:06
c_yoyo	#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85644/	00:06
c_yoyo	which puts the input validation into a log rather than reject mode.	00:06
c_yoyo	so I think we might have all the major features we want know for the POC?	00:06
c_yoyo	oomichi, alex_xu: did you guys want to add anything re: POC?	00:06
oomichi	cyeoh: now I dont have anything else.	00:07
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alex_xu	that's all for me. only one thing I found it is v2.1 and v3 request body can both pass the input validation	00:07
alex_xu	not sure it's need for POC	00:08
c_yoyo	alex_xu: sorry I'm not sure I quite understand which scenario you are talking about there?	00:08
c_yoyo	do you mean cases where the input validation is exactly the same for V2.1 and v3?	00:08
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alex_xu	c_yoyo, sorry, I mean if I submit a v2.1 request with v3's style request body, it also can pass the input validation	00:09
c_yoyo	alex_xu: hrm, oh yes.	00:09
oomichi	alex_xu: yes right.	00:09
* c_yoyo is not sure how big an issue that is		00:09
oomichi	alex_xu: current v2.1 API allows v3 request format.	00:10
alex_xu	maybe it's is ok for POC, but I think I should warn you guys	00:10
oomichi	c_yoyo: agree	00:10
c_yoyo	that would technically be a backwards compatible change	00:10
oomichi	c_yoyo: +1	00:11
c_yoyo	I can't immediately think of a way of stopping that from happening either.	00:11
c_yoyo	it perhaps allows for an easier transition for clients, some we might be able to reclassify it as a feature rather than a bug :-)	00:12
c_yoyo	s/some/so	00:12
alex_xu	:)	00:12
c_yoyo	#topic api response validation in tempest	00:12
c_yoyo	hrm meetbot seems to have disappeared	00:13
c_yoyo	#topic api response validation in tempest	00:13
c_yoyo	oomichi: do you have anything you want to talk about here?	00:13
oomichi	yes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmYuZ6T4IJETdEVNTWlYVUVOWURmOERSZ0VGc1BBQWc#gid=3	00:13
c_yoyo	#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmYuZ6T4IJETdEVNTWlYVUVOWURmOERSZ0VGc1BBQWc#gid=3	00:13
oomichi	now 22.13% has been done for this work.	00:13
oomichi	92API's patches are in review.	00:14
oomichi	https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-api-attribute-test,n,z	00:14
c_yoyo	oomichi, excellent :-)	00:14
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oomichi	thanks	00:14
c_yoyo	#action everyone review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-api-attribute-test,n,z patches as much as possible!	00:14
oomichi	and needs more reviews again;-)	00:14
* manslaughter will try		00:15
c_yoyo	oomichi: agreed	00:15
alex_xu	maybe I can try some	00:15
oomichi	manslaughter, c_yoyo: thanks!	00:15
oomichi	alex_xu: thanks	00:15
c_yoyo	oomichi: so I don't think we have any technical blocking issues for the api attribute testing do we? It's just a matter of doing them and getting them merged?	00:16
oomichi	c_yoyo: that's right. we can just review them	00:16
c_yoyo	oomichi: cool	00:16
c_yoyo	#topic progress on sdk port for V3 API	00:17
c_yoyo	manslaughter: you're up :-)	00:17
manslaughter	thanks cyeoh	00:17
manslaughter	I've been looking at libcloud and implementing v3 on top	00:17
manslaughter	I haven't made the progress I would have liked (had a few distractions this week) but should have something up early next week to show	00:18
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c_yoyo	cool - anything about the v2->v3 changes that make the transition particularly difficult?	00:19
manslaughter	The good news is there's not a lot of API calls in play	00:19
c_yoyo	oh interesting.	00:19
c_yoyo	is that because things like libcloud only support functionality that is available across all the clouds it supports?	00:19
oomichi	manslaughter: good news:)	00:19
manslaughter	correct - lowest common denominator	00:19
c_yoyo	hrm I wonder how common that is amongst cloud sdks	00:20
manslaughter	so right now I'm untangling authentication from the compute api calls	00:20
c_yoyo	which makes me wonder just how many of our api extensions are actually used	00:20
manslaughter	i.e. /v2/ for authn and api calls is common	00:20
manslaughter	and trying to do it in a semi-nice way	00:20
c_yoyo	manslaughter: ah, hard coding instead of using the keystone registry I guess	00:21
c_yoyo	I guess its not too surprising that people went that way	00:21
manslaughter	still uncovering - but yes, it appears there's some hard-coding going on	00:21
c_yoyo	#topic API related nova-specs	00:21
c_yoyo	are there any API related nova-specs patches that people really want some review bandwidth on?	00:22
oomichi	c_yoyo and john have already reviewed my nova-specs patch, thanks:)	00:23
c_yoyo	oomichi: cool.	00:24
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c_yoyo	I haven't managed to get the nova v3 API nova-specs patches submitted yet. But hopefully very soon now (I keep saying that I know)	00:24
c_yoyo	#topic V3 API related work	00:24
c_yoyo	I'm not sure we have much to talk about here	00:24
c_yoyo	I haven't had time to do much on it yet.	00:25
c_yoyo	alex_xu, oomichi: anything you wanted to mention here?	00:25
c_yoyo	I saw some schema stuff get unabandoned but I think we're still waiting for bp approval?	00:25
oomichi	now we should wait for the summit?	00:25
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c_yoyo	oomichi: so I think the stuff left over from icehouse is ok to merge assuming we can bp approval	00:25
oomichi	I guess we need a lot of patches again for v3 API but time is gooing	00:26
c_yoyo	oomichi: yea I'm concerned about waiting a month	00:26
oomichi	c_yoyo: agree.	00:26
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c_yoyo	so I think it would be nice to merge what we can and at least have patches up.	00:26
c_yoyo	nova-network support is a big chunk of work	00:26
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alex_xu	c_yoyo, v3 related spec can begin for now, all it's also need waiting for summit?	00:26
alex_xu	s/all/or	00:27
manslaughter	c_yoyo: the way forward is to add nova-network into v3 f'sure?	00:27
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c_yoyo	alex_xu: so doing the work now comes at the risk that will get ripped out if v3 api gets blocked at summit	00:27
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c_yoyo	manslaughter: so there's an interesting discussion there	00:27
alex_xu	c_yoyo, ok, got it	00:27
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c_yoyo	johnthetubaguy sort of suggested that we consider not supporting nova network in V3, but if we go the V2.1 route support it there	00:28
manslaughter	or is it tied to v3 as a whole being accepted/abandoned?	00:28
c_yoyo	and supporting it for 2.1 makes supporting it in v3 very easy (and there's not much difference in work)	00:29
c_yoyo	manslaughter: so there's a couple of separate issues there	00:29
c_yoyo	there's v2.1 and v3	00:29
c_yoyo	I honestly don't know how the v3 discussions are going to turn out	00:29
c_yoyo	but re: v2.1 - if we want the V2 API on the new framework I think the v2.1 route is actually the best way to get to V2 on the new framework	00:29
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c_yoyo	eg rather than trying to backport the framework to V2, moving V2 capabilities onto V3.	00:30
c_yoyo	even if V3 is not "enabled"	00:30
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c_yoyo	one of the big reasons being if we backport the framework and input validation features to V2 codebase it means changing things in place	00:30
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c_yoyo	and so those doing CD get the changes (and mistakes) straight away	00:31
c_yoyo	and there is no opportunity for people to test V2.1 first	00:31
c_yoyo	so a V2.1 seems to me to be lower risk	00:31
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manslaughter	right	00:31
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c_yoyo	manslaughter: anyway this will all have to be argued out at summit ultimately....	00:32
c_yoyo	#topic open discussion	00:32
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c_yoyo	PTL voting is still running for a few more hours I think. If you can vote, please do so!	00:33
c_yoyo	anything else people wanted to talk about?	00:33
manslaughter	all sounds good - sounds like I need to get back to reviewing :)	00:34
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c_yoyo	manslaughter: heh, me too.	00:34
c_yoyo	ok if there's nothing else we might as well finish early :-)	00:35
c_yoyo	thanks everyone!	00:35
oomichi	thanks!	00:35
alex_xu	thanks!	00:35
c_yoyo	#endmeeting	00:35
manslaughter	thanks!	00:35
GMann	Thanks	00:35
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oomichi	and bot could not work:(	00:35
alex_xu	is it related to your name changed c_yoyo ?	00:36
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cyeoh	#endmeeting	00:36
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cyeoh	alex_xu: hah, you were right! :-)	00:36
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* cyeoh being stupid :-)		00:36
oomichi	oh, I got it. nice point, alex_xu	00:36
alex_xu	heh :)	00:37
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DinaBelova	#startmeeting climate	15:00
openstack	Meeting started Fri Apr 11 15:00:04 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DinaBelova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	15:00
openstack	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.	15:00
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openstack	The meeting name has been set to 'climate'	15:00
DinaBelova	cmart, f_rossigneux, pafuent, scroiset, tomek_adamczewsk - you here? :)	15:00
DinaBelova	fo-o-olks)	15:01
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cmart	I'm here!	15:01
DinaBelova	cmart, o/	15:01
DinaBelova	don't you know - will we be alone today? ;)	15:01
cmart	o_O	15:02
DinaBelova	I simply see no other reaction)	15:02
cmart	what is going on??	15:02
DinaBelova	from other guys)	15:02
schwicke	I'm here as well	15:02
cmart	let me chat pablo	15:02
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DinaBelova	schwicke, sorry - did not see you before on our meetings)	15:02
cmart	DinaBelova, pafuent got disconnected..	15:02
DinaBelova	okay	15:02
schwicke	true	15:03
cmart	he'll be here soon	15:03
DinaBelova	we'll wait Pablo and start)	15:03
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VINOD_	hi	15:03
pafuent	o/	15:03
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schwicke	I think we have a time zone shifting issue	15:03
DinaBelova	oh	15:03
VINOD_	Is it the metting about the Hierarchical Multitenancy	15:03
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DinaBelova	hm	15:03
DinaBelova	strange	15:03
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pafuent	o/ (connection problems)	15:04
DinaBelova	what time UTC is now?	15:04
scroiset	o/	15:04
cmart	3 PM?	15:04
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VINOD_	yes 3 pm	15:04
DinaBelova	https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate - 3PM is Climate meeting	15:04
VINOD_	ok, sorry	15:04
DinaBelova	am I wrong?	15:04
DinaBelova	https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Climate_.28Reservations.29_team_meeting - still 3PM	15:05
schwicke	nope I think you are right	15:05
DinaBelova	okay, so I'll continue Climate meeting if so)	15:05
DinaBelova	pafuent, cmart - you still here?	15:05
schwicke	sorry for the noise	15:05
cmart	yes!	15:05
pafuent	Yes	15:05
pafuent	...	15:05
cmart	schwicke, no problem!	15:06
pafuent	:-D	15:06
DinaBelova	okay)	15:06
DinaBelova	so today's agenda is	15:06
DinaBelova	#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate	15:06
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DinaBelova	#topic Action items from the last meeting + reviews queries	15:06
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DinaBelova	#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2014/climate.2014-04-04-15.01.html	15:06
DinaBelova	okay	15:06
DinaBelova	so as usually, let's start with the action items	15:07
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DinaBelova	as for my points	15:07
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DinaBelova	1/ we definately need to coordinate with Barbican folks while gerrit maintenance	15:07
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DinaBelova	2/ No answer from foundation about new name availability 0_0	15:08
DinaBelova	although I pinged directly Lauren	15:08
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DinaBelova	so I'll try to find her asap...	15:08
DinaBelova	so this action item still on me	15:08
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DinaBelova	#action DinaBelova ping foundation about new name search status	15:08
DinaBelova	and also we have pack of etherpads related action items	15:09
DinaBelova	for all of us	15:09
DinaBelova	sadly, I see no bauzas here :(	15:09
DinaBelova	So we can't discuss https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-resource-allocation-framework	15:09
DinaBelova	as for the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-bp-basic-volume-plugin	15:10
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DinaBelova	as far as I remember, it was Cristian's BP and overall idea	15:10
DinaBelova	he's on vacation, afaik	15:10
pafuent	Yes	15:10
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DinaBelova	and I'm really sorry, but I had not so much opportunity to take a look on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-standby-modes	15:11
DinaBelova	pafuent, I guess you've looked on it?	15:11
pafuent	Yes	15:11
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cmart	me too..	15:11
pafuent	I added two comments	15:11
DinaBelova	okay, folks..	15:11
DinaBelova	as Francois forgot about us, I feel a little lost here)	15:12
cmart	if I remember correctly, Cristian's main concern was around the volume start..	15:12
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DinaBelova	yes, and this question might be really connected with Sylvain's etherpad	15:12
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DinaBelova	as it'll provide new way of resource behaviour here	15:12
cmart	agree	15:12
DinaBelova	so Cristian & Sylvain need to coordinate here	15:13
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DinaBelova	#info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-resource-allocation-framework and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-bp-basic-volume-plugin - quite connected BPs	15:13
cmart	and they're busy guys.. :S	15:13
DinaBelova	okay	15:13
DinaBelova	:(	15:13
DinaBelova	well, I guess yes :(	15:13
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pafuent	Sorry to ask, but: Will Sylvain implement something related to that etherpad?	15:13
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DinaBelova	pafuent, really good question!	15:14
DinaBelova	as he really wanted to	15:14
DinaBelova	but now...	15:14
DinaBelova	as he has new focus on the nova..	15:14
scroiset	pafuent: I know he's working on gantt ..	15:14
scroiset	and nova ..	15:14
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DinaBelova	scroiset, o/	15:14
pafuent	Ok	15:15
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DinaBelova	#action bauzas should say if he'll work on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-resource-allocation-framework	15:15
scroiset	sorry guys, I hadn't take a look on all etherpads ..	15:15
DinaBelova	we'll understand this before next meeting	15:15
DinaBelova	scroiset, np	15:15
DinaBelova	so	15:15
scroiset	regive me an action .. I'll do it next week	15:15
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DinaBelova	#action scroiset - take a look on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-resource-allocation-framework https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-bp-basic-volume-plugin https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-standby-modes	15:16
DinaBelova	;)	15:16
cmart	that's the spirit! :)	15:16
DinaBelova	cmart, +1	15:16
DinaBelova	okay	15:16
scroiset	:)	15:16
DinaBelova	next topic)	15:16
DinaBelova	#topic Summit session status	15:16
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DinaBelova	as for the summit session	15:17
DinaBelova	I got that it won't be cross-project one	15:17
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DinaBelova	as there are not so many slots, and lots topics (more important ones) to be discussed there	15:17
DinaBelova	but	15:17
DinaBelova	we'll 98% have "other projects" session	15:17
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DinaBelova	where we'll discuss everything we want to with interested in folks)	15:18
DinaBelova	so that were the news I wanted to share	15:18
DinaBelova	does someone here knows smth else?	15:18
DinaBelova	about this moment?	15:18
pafuent	Sorry but I didn't get the "we'll 98% have "other projects" session"	15:19
cmart	hmm.. not from my side	15:19
DinaBelova	there are different threads	15:19
DinaBelova	on summit	15:19
DinaBelova	with different topics	15:19
DinaBelova	I mean overall area	15:19
DinaBelova	one moment	15:19
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DinaBelova	https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Juno#Topics	15:20
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DinaBelova	and there are not only "Official programs" topics there	15:20
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DinaBelova	but also "Cross-project workshops" and "Other projects"	15:20
DinaBelova	first time TC suggested for me to create a request to have cross-project one	15:21
DinaBelova	but currently they are deciding what sessions to choose	15:21
scroiset	so seems this one will be scheduled : http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/142	15:21
scroiset	iiuc	15:21
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DinaBelova	scroiset, yes	15:21
DinaBelova	we'll see, but anyway	15:22
DinaBelova	so TC is thinking now to move our discussion from http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/45 to the http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/142	15:22
DinaBelova	we'll know for sure next week	15:22
DinaBelova	where and how we'll discuss everything interesting for us	15:23
DinaBelova	pafuent, cmart - is it clearer now?	15:23
pafuent	Yes	15:23
DinaBelova	okay, great)	15:23
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* DinaBelova moving further		15:23
cmart	yeahh	15:24
DinaBelova	#topic Unassigned bugs and BPs	15:24
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DinaBelova	and I've got lots of nice things to be done)	15:24
cmart	yes	15:24
DinaBelova	I mean LOTS	15:24
DinaBelova	:)	15:24
DinaBelova	pafuent, you found many bugs, btw	15:24
DinaBelova	great job!	15:24
pafuent	Thanks	15:24
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DinaBelova	and now I simply want to, well, somehow assign at least some of them	15:25
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cmart	now.. it's time to fix them, pablo... :p	15:25
pafuent	hahaha	15:25
pafuent	Yeah	15:25
DinaBelova	#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82192/ - we need to restore it, when Cristian will be back	15:25
cmart	I can take all the bugs I found.. but I'm trying to end the tempest scenario test	15:25
pafuent	But I won't to be greedy	15:25
DinaBelova	one moment	15:26
DinaBelova	let me publish here all things I wanted to mention	15:26
cmart	OK	15:26
DinaBelova	these are unassigned bugs/BPs	15:26
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DinaBelova	https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/create-plugin-api-endpoint	15:26
DinaBelova	https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/before-end-notification-crud	15:26
DinaBelova	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1306622	15:26
DinaBelova	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1306234	15:26
DinaBelova	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1305149	15:26
DinaBelova	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1305129	15:26
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1306622 in climate "Climate V2 API returns tenant_id with dashes" [Low,Confirmed]	15:26
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1306234 in climate "Climate Client doesn't gracefully handle unsupported API versions" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:26
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1305149 in climate "Could not delete lease when associated resource is missing" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:26
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1305129 in climate "Prolong-for option for lease-update doesn't accept negative values" [Medium,Triaged]	15:26
pafuent	PASTE BOMB	15:26
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DinaBelova	and here are things that are assigned, but untouched.... so we need to reassign them	15:26
DinaBelova	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1255106	15:26
DinaBelova	https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73574/	15:26
DinaBelova	https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/lease-state	15:26
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1255106 in climate "API unittests coverage is unsufficient" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:27
DinaBelova	pafuent, yes)	15:27
DinaBelova	cmart, let me find reported by you	15:27
DinaBelova	and I'll assign them to you	15:27
cmart	OK thanks	15:27
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DinaBelova	done	15:28
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DinaBelova	so we have also two things found by Pablo)	15:29
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DinaBelova	pafuent, will you fix this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1306622	15:29
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1306622 in climate "Climate V2 API returns tenant_id with dashes" [Low,Confirmed]	15:29
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pafuent	Yes	15:29
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DinaBelova	this one I've picked for myself https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1306234	15:29
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1306234 in climate "Climate Client doesn't gracefully handle unsupported API versions" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:29
DinaBelova	okay	15:29
DinaBelova	cool!	15:30
DinaBelova	okay	15:30
pafuent	The debug info for that bug is amazing	15:30
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DinaBelova	;)	15:30
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pafuent	u'v2'	15:30
pafuent	:)	15:30
DinaBelova	as for the BPs that we can work on	15:30
DinaBelova	before summit	15:30
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DinaBelova	https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/create-plugin-api-endpoint and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/before-end-notification-crud	15:30
DinaBelova	folks, don't you know if Critian or Diego will work on them?	15:31
cmart	I don't think so..	15:31
DinaBelova	okay, will they take part in Climate further?	15:32
cmart	as far as I know, they will be busy with other stuff...	15:32
DinaBelova	okay	15:32
cmart	related to the 2nd question	15:32
DinaBelova	okay	15:32
cmart	I think that Cristian will, but I'm not sure about Diego..	15:32
DinaBelova	cmart, gotcha	15:32
cmart	I could ask them and let you know..	15:32
DinaBelova	cmart, will be cool	15:32
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pafuent	Diego is about to join	15:33
DinaBelova	dpamio, o/	15:33
dpamio	Hi everybody…	15:33
DinaBelova	hello	15:33
dpamio	sorry, I missed the first half of the meeting.	15:33
DinaBelova	dpamio, I just wanted to ask you if you'll continue working on Climate	15:33
dpamio	I´ll be out of town (and Climate) the next two weeks.	15:33
DinaBelova	I mean I lost you a little bit)	15:33
DinaBelova	okay, got it	15:34
DinaBelova	but will you join us later?	15:34
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DinaBelova	if you're not sure you may say so)))	15:34
dpamio	I’m not sure what would happen then (I assume I’ll return to Climate), as the second week will be to work on a PoC on a different subject.	15:35
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dpamio	^workING	15:35
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DinaBelova	okay	15:35
DinaBelova	thanks	15:35
DinaBelova	I picked https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/create-plugin-api-endpoint for me	15:35
dpamio	I’ll say 70% chances that I keep working in Climate	15:35
DinaBelova	and I got https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/before-end-notification-crud unassigned)	15:35
DinaBelova	I want to see hand up)))	15:35
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DinaBelova	dpamio, thanks! it'll be cool)	15:36
cmart	mE! o/	15:36
DinaBelova	:*	15:36
DinaBelova	okay	15:36
DinaBelova	will pick you now	15:36
DinaBelova	done	15:36
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DinaBelova	okay, and the last moment here is pack of already assigned and lost things)	15:37
DinaBelova	I'm about https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1255106 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73574/ and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/lease-state	15:37
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1255106 in climate "API unittests coverage is unsufficient" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:37
DinaBelova	as for the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73574/ - it's almost done, we need just to finish it	15:38
pafuent	I will take lease-state	15:38
DinaBelova	pafuent, okay	15:38
cmart	cool!	15:38
DinaBelova	picked you	15:38
DinaBelova	and we have two tests related things)	15:39
DinaBelova	I guess we may leave them now	15:39
DinaBelova	and see what will happen next week - when I'll ping Nick and Francois here	15:39
cmart	yeah.. we have a lot on our shoulders right now.. :/	15:39
DinaBelova	;)	15:39
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DinaBelova	okay	15:40
cmart	just kidding..	15:40
cmart	one comment	15:40
DinaBelova	yes?	15:40
cmart	nevermind, please continue	15:40
DinaBelova	oh, ok	15:40
* DinaBelova moving to the next topic		15:40
pafuent	BTW, we need to start thinking on Tempest tests	15:40
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cmart	I'm having nightmares with them..	15:40
DinaBelova	#topic Open discussion	15:40
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cmart	haha	15:40
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pafuent	hahaha	15:40
DinaBelova	pafuent, what do you mean about starting thinking?	15:40
DinaBelova	we have great cmart working on them)	15:41
DinaBelova	he's doing excellent things)	15:41
pafuent	Yes, I know	15:41
dpamio	or worse, “what do you mean with having nightmares”?	15:41
dpamio	:P	15:41
scroiset	cmart nightmares about which test ?	15:41
DinaBelova	scroiset - about tempest)	15:41
pafuent	But after cmart patch we will need a lot of work writing a lot of tests	15:42
DinaBelova	pafuent, yes, that's so	15:42
pafuent	for writing a lot of test	15:42
pafuent	Just that	15:42
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cmart	scroiset, I'm writing an scenario test and it's getting more time than I expected..	15:43
DinaBelova	pafuent - won't you mind to register different BPs for different integration tests here?	15:43
cmart	lot of timeouts and stuff to check..	15:43
DinaBelova	I trust you here)	15:43
pafuent	Ok, I'll do that	15:43
DinaBelova	pafuent, cool)	15:43
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DinaBelova	cmart, well, I really appreciate what you're doing here	15:43
cmart	I'll submit a patch today EOD..	15:43
DinaBelova	cmart, cool!	15:44
cmart	get your "-1's" ready	15:44
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DinaBelova	;)	15:44
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DinaBelova	don't worry)	15:44
DinaBelova	we always have them)	15:44
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DinaBelova	okay	15:44
pafuent	Me too. I really need a safety net for my patches	15:44
cmart	haha :)	15:44
DinaBelova	;)	15:44
cmart	one question	15:44
DinaBelova	do we have other topics to be discussed?	15:44
DinaBelova	oh, ok	15:44
cmart	about core reviewers..	15:44
DinaBelova	yes	15:44
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DinaBelova	that's the problem now	15:44
cmart	I mean, we have four of them.. and we have a lot of stuff to review	15:45
cmart	Are we sure that we won't have delays with that?	15:45
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DinaBelova	Nick and scroiset are quite busy now... And bauzas is moving his focus from climate slowly, so I'm thinking about having one more core reviewer at least	15:45
scroiset	DinaBelova +1	15:46
cmart	+1 agree	15:46
pafuent	+1	15:46
DinaBelova	pafuent - I'm about you - you're working hard on Climate - both for reviews and bugs/bps management	15:46
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pafuent	:)	15:46
DinaBelova	I love what you're doing, so let's discuss then privately what I want to see from you to become core reviewer)	15:47
pafuent	Ok	15:47
DinaBelova	okay	15:47
DinaBelova	any other quesiotns?	15:47
DinaBelova	questions*	15:47
cmart	not from my side	15:47
pafuent	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1299122	15:47
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1299122 in climate "Physical Resource plugin doesn't work with PostgreSQL" [Medium,New]	15:47
DinaBelova	scroiset, may you take a look on this bug?	15:47
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DinaBelova	and say 1st or 2nd variant you love more	15:48
pafuent	Or both	15:48
DinaBelova	I've proposed my opinion to pafuent, but I also want other opinion here	15:48
DinaBelova	pafuent, ;)	15:48
scroiset	yep	15:48
DinaBelova	okay, cool	15:48
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DinaBelova	any other things here?	15:48
pafuent	https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1304435	15:48
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1304435 in climate "Support query leases for project by the platform admin" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:48
DinaBelova	it's connected with https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/1306231	15:49
uvirtbot	Launchpad bug 1306231 in climate "Climate V2 API lets a non admin user list all leases" [Medium,Confirmed]	15:49
DinaBelova	btw	15:49
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pafuent	Are you Ok if I add a query param instead of the bug proposal?	15:49
DinaBelova	pafuent, sorry, lost your point	15:49
DinaBelova	may you explain?	15:49
pafuent	One proposal is something like: /project_id/leases to filter by project	15:50
pafuent	Mine is /leases?project_id=blah	15:50
pafuent	For the firs one we will need to manage Projects as a resource in Climate	15:51
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DinaBelova	well, I guess your proposal is nice	15:51
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DinaBelova	may you publish it to the BP?	15:51
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pafuent	And Projects aren't a resource that Climate handle	15:51
cmart	shouldn't that be considered as bp instead of a bug?	15:52
pafuent	BP == Bug?	15:52
DinaBelova	oh, yes	15:52
* DinaBelova trying to find one google drive table where I was thinking about this		15:52
DinaBelova	it looks like I've lost it	15:53
DinaBelova	:?	15:53
DinaBelova	well, strange	15:53
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DinaBelova	one more moment	15:54
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DinaBelova	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1teQ9Tta9UafV2j9AlkJwTwQIP4feT4vZSFOOn2-khjA/edit?usp=sharing	15:55
DinaBelova	pafuent, please take a look on it	15:55
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DinaBelova	there is still two variants)	15:55
DinaBelova	okay	15:55
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pafuent	Ok, I'll take a look on that	15:56
DinaBelova	smth else here?	15:56
cmart	nope	15:56
DinaBelova	okay	15:56
pafuent	If we want to get the Tempest..	15:56
pafuent	thing on Infra...	15:56
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DinaBelova	pafuent, don't start speaking like cmart :) with "..."	15:56
pafuent	We have contacts to speed up the reviews on that?	15:56
cmart	hahahaahahahahahahaa	15:56
pafuent	hahahaha	15:57
DinaBelova	pafuent, if we'll have changes there	15:57
DinaBelova	we can ask Sergey to take a look on them	15:57
pafuent	Ok}	15:57
DinaBelova	he's infra core	15:57
cmart	OK..	15:57
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DinaBelova	okay	15:57
cmart	I'll add him to the review..	15:57
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DinaBelova	have a nice weekend)	15:57
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cmart	(I think he is already there)	15:57
cmart	you too!	15:57
cmart	bye	15:57
DinaBelova	#endmeeting	15:58
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pafuent	bye	15:58
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vishy	hello	16:06
vishy	#startmeeting Hierarchical Multitenancy	16:06
openstack	Meeting started Fri Apr 11 16:06:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vishy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	16:06
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*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Hierarchical Multitenancy)"		16:06
openstack	The meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy'	16:06
raildo	hi	16:06
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tellesnobrega	hi	16:06
schwicke	hi	16:07
Sajeesh	hi	16:07
VINOD	hi	16:07
vishy	#topic role inheritance	16:07
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vishy	raildo: did you make any progress on the role inheritance implementation?	16:07
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raildo	vishy: The implementation is ready, but remain some security checks, I will send to the ML as soon as possible	16:08
vishy	cool	16:08
schwicke	vishy: we have a new collaborator: Sajeesh. Vinod is back to india, and Sajeesh is taking over from him	16:08
vishy	did you end up creating a flag for “inherited”?	16:08
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vishy	schwicke: ok great, welcome Sajeesh	16:08
Sajeesh	Hi Vishy Thanks	16:08
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raildo	vishy: Currently I am checking the roles that are listed as inherited, ie, the user adds the role to be inherited.	16:09
schwicke	raildo:sounds very good	16:09
tellesnobrega	vishy: im also working on this with raildo, mostly him, but we will have it done soon	16:10
raildo	I check if this inherited role is associated with the parent project, if it is I add the project child	16:11
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vishy	great	16:13
vishy	ok I”m not aware of any other active work being done in advance of the summit	16:13
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vishy	if anyone hasn’t read the updated http://wiki.openstack.org/HierarchicalMultitenancy	16:14
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vishy	I encourage you to do so and bring up any issues	16:14
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vishy	as I mentioned last week we will have a few sessions at the summit to discuss it	16:14
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schwicke	I think Vinod recently made some improvements on our POC	16:15
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schwicke	VINOD_: does it make sense to review this and integrate with what raildo did ?	16:16
VINOD	I can do it.	16:17
schwicke	would be nice to have the complete thing for the summit	16:17
VINOD	I request raildo to send a link when he completes the testing	16:17
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vishy	sounds good	16:17
vishy	does anyone have anything else to discuss?	16:17
raildo	VINOD: I will send you as soon as everything is finalized. I believe that early next week.	16:17
schwicke	Excellent. Let's do that then	16:17
VINOD	I am little confused right now with role inheritance, but i will wait wait till raildo sends me the completed thing	16:18
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VINOD	raido: great	16:18
VINOD	raildo: that's fine for me	16:18
raildo	VINOD: great	16:18
schwicke	VINOD: Sajeesh can probably help as well	16:19
VINOD	raildo: Will you put up the code only or any documentation will be there (even a brief explanation will do)	16:19
Sajeesh	Ok sure	16:19
VINOD	schwicke: OK	16:19
raildo	VINOD: I will explain how to test the code	16:20
VINOD	raildo: Thanks, that will be great helpful to me	16:20
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vishy	ok lets adjourn until next week unless anyone has something else	16:21
VINOD	vishy: I don't know whether i can rise this issue or not...We had submitted new blueprints to Gerrit as part of new way of creating blueprints for Domain Quota Management	16:21
VINOD	But its got stuck there, as reviewers are asking us to give a roadmap for keystone v3 usage for entire nova code	16:22
VINOD	but we used only for Domain Quota (keystone v3 auth token)...	16:22
VINOD	vishy: If you have some time, can you look into the blueprints..should i post the links now?	16:22
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vishy	VINOD: we will probably have to get v3 code into nova in order to make this feature happen	16:22
vishy	so that is an important initial blueprint	16:22
vishy	the same is true of all projects	16:23
vishy	as keystone devs have said that this feature won’t go into v2	16:23
vishy	unless they are willing to accept it as an extension	16:23
VINOD	vishy: But as for as i see nova has already code for accepting the v3 token, but the nova api's are not using v3 auth token and i had used it	16:24
schwicke	vishy: anything on our side we can do to speed up things a bit ?	16:24
schwicke	my understanding of the comments is that some organization of the transition is needed. Right ?	16:25
VINOD	vishy: as schwicke said, we don't know how to proceed further...our code of Domain Quota Management is ready with both V2 APIs and V3 APIs (using keystone v3 token) is ready	16:25
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vishy	that is correct	16:26
vishy	if we want to use new features in the v3 token	16:26
vishy	we probably need a specific blueprint about moving nova over to v3	16:27
schwicke	vishy: who should open that ?	16:27
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schwicke	and drive this ?	16:27
vishy	you can do it if you want	16:27
vishy	or we can discuss it at the summit	16:28
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schwicke	will check internally how far our mandate goes :)	16:28
VINOD	vishy: what is meant by " moving nova over to v3", because v3 auth token is already being accepted by nova code and i can even extract domain_id from v3 auth token	16:28
vishy	fyi I’m still advocating for domains not existing in the other projects	16:28
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vishy	VINOD: i would need to see the comments in the review	16:29
VINOD	#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82088/	16:29
vishy	what happens if someone passes a v2 token?	16:29
schwicke	the move to v3 is indepenend of this I think.	16:29
schwicke	and its probably needed for nested projects as a prereq	16:29
VINOD	our code of Domain Quota will not work, as it tries to get the domain_id from the token, which is not existing in the v2 token	16:30
schwicke	sure	16:30
VINOD	but i can change the code and make it accept the v2 also...but i didn't do it, because keystone v2 is any way going to be deprecated	16:30
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VINOD	vishy: the link i posted is currently in "abandoned" state (because of no activity in the last week), but we can surely check the comments	16:31
vishy	VINOD: so i think the request is pretty clear	16:31
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VINOD	vishy: ok	16:31
vishy	he wants a blueprint covering the v2->v3 transition	16:32
vishy	VINOD: but as I said i think domain quotas are a bad idea	16:32
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schwicke	:)	16:33
vishy	:)	16:33
VINOD	vishy: ok	16:33
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vishy	we are going to end up with two levers for everything	16:33
VINOD	vishy: we did it, because 2-3 montgs back, domain are still a good part of openstack	16:33
vishy	sure	16:33
vishy	user quotas may be a bad idea as well :)	16:34
VINOD	vishy: but any way, there is already so much of discussion happened about dropping domains and bringing hierarchical multitenancy, then we can wait till summit and change the code to suit to new hierarchy	16:34
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vishy	right	16:34
vishy	ok	16:34
vishy	if you want to draft a v2->v3 proposal for nova that seems like a good start	16:35
vishy	just to have something up	16:35
VINOD	vishy, schwicke: so, i think we have to stop the quota development (or modification) for time being, and wait for summit and then proceed according to the decision made in the summit	16:35
vishy	right	16:35
schwicke	hmm, lookslike	16:35
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vishy	ok lets finish up for today	16:36
schwicke	hower, I think it would be a good idea to get the V3 transition forward in the mean time	16:36
vishy	I will see y’all next week	16:36
VINOD	vishy: This is what confusing me "a draft for v2->v3", does this mean that, drop all the nova v2 code (the api extensions) and change them to v3 extensions?	16:36
schwicke	I will check internally and let you know in the next meeting	16:36
vishy	no	16:36
vishy	for keystone	16:36
vishy	moving nova code to use the v3 keystone api	16:36
vishy	instead of v2	16:36
schwicke	sure.	16:37
schwicke	vishy: will there be a meeting next Friday ?	16:37
VINOD	vishy: ok	16:37
vishy	yes	16:37
schwicke	If I'm not mistaken it is a public holiday (easter weekend)	16:37
VINOD	vishy, schwicke: but i guess its a big task....	16:37
vishy	yes it is	16:37
vishy	we will need help	16:38
vishy	:)	16:38
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schwicke	vishy: for that reason I cannot promise that we'll be able to drive it. I have to check that with some people here :)	16:38
VINOD	vishy: we can definitely provide the help, but we may not be able to do it single handedly	16:38
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vishy	schwicke: hmm we don’t generally take food friday off in the US	16:39
vishy	well i will be around	16:39
schwicke	OK, so then lets see next week. I will try to connect if I'm around.	16:39
vishy	the following week I am out however	16:39
schwicke	ok	16:39
vishy	#endmeeting	16:39
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openstack	Meeting ended Fri Apr 11 16:39:32 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)	16:39
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VINOD	vishy, schwicke: I request you both to look into this, and guide us to take this forward	16:39
VINOD	for the transition of v2->v3	16:39
VINOD	bye all	16:40
raildo	bye	16:40
tellesnobrega	bye	16:40
Sajeesh	bye	16:40
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