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HenryGHi akamyshnikova_, jlibosva, rpodolyaka, salv-orlando, markmcclain12:59
HenryG#startmeeting neutron_db13:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 23 13:00:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_db'13:00
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HenryGAgenda #link
HenryG#topic Blueprint13:00
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HenryGThe spec has a +2! Thanks salv-orlando!13:01
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HenryGAssuming there is not much left on the BP/spec, let's talk about implementation13:02
HenryG#topic Work in progress13:02
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HenryGThe patch by akamyshnikova_ has hit a hiccup13:02
akamyshnikova_I think the biggest question is updating the versions of sqlalchemy and alembic13:02
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HenryGRight. I am not familiar with the process for updating global requirements.13:03
HenryGDo we need to get that approved first, and how long does it take?13:04
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HenryGI assume all OpenStack projects are affected?13:04
akamyshnikova_The oslo db will need this versions too13:04
akamyshnikova_so I think yes13:05
rpodolyakahmm, I don't we need to update the global requirements13:05
rpodolyakathe version number we have there is enough for us13:05
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salv-orlando“there” as neutron or oslo.db?13:06
rpodolyakaglobal-requirements and hence in all projects13:06
HenryGrpodolyaka: Jenkins comment on the patch: "13:07
HenryGgate-neutron-requirements : Incompatible requirement found; see"13:07
* rpodolyaka looks13:07
salv-orlandorpolodolyaka: obviously, thanks13:07
rpodolyakaahh, akamyshnikova_ updated the lower bound, I missed that13:08
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rpodolyakayeah, this will obviously conflict with global requirements13:08
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jlibosvaYou should send a patch to openstack/requirements13:08
rpodolyakaso the way we've been dealing with this in oslo.db so far is that we've been skipping the test if the version of sqlalchemy wasn't sufficient13:08
rpodolyakabut this won't work for us in neutron13:08
rpodolyakaas this is not something we can skip13:09
rpodolyakaso yeah, we'll need to update global-requirements13:09
HenryGIs this a big deal?13:09
rpodolyaka0.8.4 has been released for a while, so this should not be a problem for distros13:09
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salv-orlandorpodolyaka: you know sqlalchemy better than anyone else in this room. I don’t think there is any concern in upgrading minimum requirement to 0.8.4 in globa, what do you reckon?13:09
salv-orlandook I think you’ve already answered that13:10
rpodolyakayeah :)13:10
HenryGWhat about alembic?13:10
rpodolyaka0.7.8 is a way too old13:10
rpodolyakaAFAIR 0.6.2 was released about 5-6 months ago13:10
* rpodolyaka haven't checked new LTSes, but 0.6.2 must be there13:11
HenryGSounds safe(ish) to me.13:11
salv-orlandowhat’s the reason for pinning alembic to 0,6,2 (just curious)13:11
rpodolyakait adds the logic of unique constraints comparison13:12
salv-orlandook got it13:12
rpodolyakaso no missing uniques detection without prior to 0.6.213:12
rpodolyakathe same is true for SA 0.8.413:12
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HenryGSo we should submit a request to openstack/requirements? Any volunteers?13:13
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rpodolyakaakamyshnikova_: ? I'll +1 :)13:13
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HenryG#action akamyshnikova_ to submit request to  openstack/requirements to bump min versions of sqlalchemy and alembic13:15
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salv-orlandoinfo for updating globa reqs:
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HenryGThanks salv-orlando13:16
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akamyshnikova_salv-orlando, thanks!13:16
HenryGThe other hiccup in the patch is:13:16
HenryG"Cannot drop index 'firewall_rules_ibfk_1': needed in a foreign key constraint"13:16
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akamyshnikova_in my comment to Henry I describe why does this appear :) I think about some possible solutions.13:17
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akamyshnikova_currently this is about unsync models and migrations13:18
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HenryGakamyshnikova_: can you summarize your possible solutions? Or do you want to discuss in the review?13:18
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HenryGMy understanding is we should have a migration before healing to sync the models with the db.13:19
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HenryGBut I could be wrong.13:20
akamyshnikova_the main idea is check foreign keys before checking indexes separately or when we checking index check if there is a foreign key.13:21
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akamyshnikova_In fact models almost sync with migrations except some arguable moments that are still on review or abandoned13:23
HenryGYou mean to do this within the healing migration?13:23
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akamyshnikova_yeah, in method remove_index or in separate one13:24
HenryGOK, sounds good.13:25
HenryGAny other questions on the WIP?13:25
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HenryG#topic Open discussion13:26
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HenryGI am still fuzzy on when exactly we should remove auto-generation of db schema from models at startup.13:27
HenryGsalv-orlando: ^^13:28
salv-orlandoHneryG: eventually13:28
HenryGOK :)13:29
rossella_shello all, I just wanted to say that I am gonna work on adding a retry logic for failed db operations. I will file a spec this week, hopefully you guys can have a look :)13:29
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salv-orlandoseriously, auto generation has a prerequisite which is bringing the migrations in sync with the models13:29
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salv-orlandoother than that, you can go ahead with completing that work I think.13:29
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HenryGsalv-orlando: I will at least keep the patch from going stale13:30
HenryGrossella_s: sounds good. Feel free to add me as a reviewer so I see it13:31
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rossella_sHenryG: I will13:31
salv-orlandorossella_s: are you talking about DBConnectionError, Deadlocks, or everything13:31
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rossella_ssalv-orlando: DBConnectionError should be already handled, am I wrong? I was thinking of Deadlock as first step...I'd like to port the wrapper used in nova
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salv-orlandorossella_s: right. porting that deadlock wrapper is useful. altough I was wonder why is that not yet part of oslo.db, ropolyaka?13:33
salv-orlandoropodolyaka: ^ ^13:33
salv-orlandobut maybe we’re digressing now. I will hand it over to HenryG and wait for open discussion for going back to this.13:34
HenryGsalv-orlando: we are in open discussion :)13:34
HenryGAnd I was going to ask rpodolyaka about oslo.db13:35
rpodolyakasalv-orlando: it is, but it might be difficult for neutron to reuse it13:35
rossella_sHenryG: we have some time, right? 25 minutes left13:35
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rossella_srpodolyaka: why difficult?13:35
rpodolyakasalv-orlando: as neutron doesn't have this DBAPI layer the other project do13:35
HenryGrpodolyaka: What are the plans to port neutron to oslo.db?13:35
salv-orlandoHenryG: that’s my call as I’m the liaison for neutron13:36
HenryGsalv-orlando: What are the plans to port neutron to oslo.db? :)13:36
rpodolyakaHenryG: I'm going to upload a patch this week13:36
salv-orlandoI’m working on drafting a plan - I’d like to be able to push a spec by tomorrow13:36
salv-orlandobut from what I’ve gathered we have two blockers - one is schema auto generation13:37
salv-orlandoand the other is alembic.13:37
HenryGIn what way is alembic a blocker?13:37
salv-orlandoFrom what I gather oslo.db only supports sqlalchemy migrate atm.13:37
salv-orlandoI would like to make a complete “migration” to oslo.db13:37
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salv-orlandoand use alembic from there. But there are ways around this problme, it’s not a show stopper13:38
rpodolyakasalv-orlando: yeah, we have experimental alembic support but it's being polished13:38
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rpodolyakasalv-orlando: so it's not usable yet :(13:38
rpodolyakawe'll ask Mike to help us to get it merged13:38
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HenryGOK it sounds like plans are in place for addressing the blockers. It will just take time.13:40
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HenryGAny other questions?13:40
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rossella_ssalv-orlando: I will wait for your spec regarding the port to oslo db and then from there draft something about the retry logic13:41
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salv-orlandook rossella_s13:42
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HenryGThanks everyone13:45
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fthamurammeeeting meeting meeting ;) kwkwkw16:56
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sarob#startmeeting training-manuals17:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 23 17:00:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'training_manuals'17:01
sarobRoll call17:01
fthamurahi all :) greet from jakarta17:01
matjazp_hi all17:01
sarobLet's start17:01
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sarobI want to spend half the meeting on17:02
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sarobCurrent stable, testing, infra17:02
sarobThen last half on developer guide design17:02
sarob#topic stable team17:03
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dguitarbitecurrent focus is on install guide17:03
dguitarbitealso fixing a few things from Associate and Operator guides17:04
dguitarbiteto have better collaboration we had a meeting with Comcast guys over hangouts17:04
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dguitarbiteEtherpad Link for Install Guides :
dguitarbiteI need to port my notes here17:05
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dguitarbiteI am planning to use Etherpad for keeping various information about install guides17:05
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dguitarbitewhich sections to break from openstack-manuals and how to assemble them17:06
dguitarbiteso we could also use this to show it to guys who maintain install guides17:06
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sarobSounds good17:06
dguitarbiteany suggestions?17:06
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fthamuraany idea to break from os-manual, but keep linked?17:07
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sarobI'd reach out to Sam-I-am and others active on the install guides17:07
fthamuraso we can know, this content from which chapter and section17:07
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dguitarbitesarob: I plan to do that as soon as we are prepared with the changes to install guide on manuals17:07
dguitarbitefthamura: we are already doing that, it is possible17:08
annegent_he, sorry I'm late17:08
annegent_will catch up next17:08
sarobAnnegent_ no prob17:08
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fthamurai can see training manual have pattern, can we make template for all modules, apt-get, setting .conf, keystone create, load content, list, restart. ?17:09
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fthamuraand this pattern linked to openstack-manual, and we can have like matrix installation17:09
fthamurai am working on that17:09
annegent_fthamura: that's pretty much the install pattern isn't it?17:09
dguitarbitefthamura: we will keep skeleton/basic framework and reuse the actual content from install guides from openstack-manuals17:09
annegent_fthamura: the goal is to not replicate17:10
dguitarbitefthamura: the distro switch and the content will be re-used17:10
dguitarbitewe dont need to do the same thing again17:10
fthamuraannegent_: this pattern help student to learn, and how easy install openstack17:10
fthamuradguitarbite: right!! :)17:10
annegent_fthamura: the install guide already does that17:10
annegent_fthamura: our goal with the install guide matches learning and easy installation, the training project will enhance it for a training lab setting17:10
fthamuraannegent_: yup, already, and find nova db sync vs keystone db_sync / glance db_sync -> i think must submit bugs because different way of sync17:11
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dguitarbitefthamura: that is out of documentation's domain17:11
annegent_dguitarbite: agreed, and yes fthamura I also agree that docs can push dev to be better about consistency but we have to document reality17:12
fthamuradguitarbite: +1, based on doc i can find input for developer and future version17:12
dguitarbitefthamura: you need to talk to the specific projects developers17:12
fthamuradguitarbite: working on it, and will update shortly, and hope this patch will make new revision for better doc/training manual instruction, the pattern become standard for next new openstack's project17:13
sarobDguitarbite what's the plan for icehouse bugs?17:13
dguitarbitesarob: I need to take a look into it17:13
annegent_sarob: I have to step away for about 15 minutes, are we talking about -specs later in the meeting?17:13
dguitarbiteI do not have any idea about the number of bugs now17:14
dguitarbitesarob: any thing specific about bugs?17:14
sarobDguitarbite I'm looking for a timeline to review the current state of two books17:14
sarobDguitarbite create the icehouse bugs along the way17:14
dguitarbitehmm, can I do some background checks and give you a realistic date in a day or two?17:15
sarobDguitarbite so we can start handing out the big work17:15
sarobDguitarbite okay. We not want to lose our audience by being out of date17:15
sarobMoving on?17:16
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dguitarbiteI will start a conversation in the docs mailing list soon17:16
dguitarbitein a day mostly17:16
dguitarbite*days time17:16
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sarob#action dguitarbite icehouse bug plan17:17
sarob#topic testing team17:17
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dguitarbite#action dguitarbite will check the bugs for operators and associate guides17:17
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matjazp_There is some overlap in responsibilities regarding quizzes/questions between Testing subgroup and Development/Stable Subgroup17:17
matjazp_We should write content of the guide first, quizzes second, with a separate BP, right?17:17
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matjazp_You need to see the content before you write quizzes about it… Otherwise, there could be a mismatch between content and quizzes…17:18
sarobMatjazp_ maybe. You can dig through the icehouse install guides17:18
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sarobMatjazp_ but I get your point. Maybe you can help dguitarbite get the icehouse bugs out17:19
dguitarbitesarob: that would be great17:19
matjazp_Also... what is the BP granularity: write a separate BP for each chapter in each Guide? Or one BP for One Guide...17:19
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dguitarbitematjazp_: I think keep it logically seperate17:19
dguitarbiteif one blueprint delivers the points, it should be good enough17:20
sarobMatjazp_ id like to have blueprints very task specific17:20
matjazp_OK... many BPs than, one for each quizz17:20
sarobMatjazp_ think agile, blueprints as your backlog task17:20
fthamurawho is quizz team? can i part of ? and where the discussion discuss regarding question bank creation?17:21
matjazp_-specs usage will be discussed later?17:21
sarobMatjazp_ in a few min17:21
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matjazp_fthamura: sure... I'll make BPs as soon as we agree on spec usage17:21
sarobmatjazp_ what's the plan with LPI ?17:21
sarobMatjazp_ can they be of help to us?17:22
matjazp_sarob: can't say it yet... Will update as soon it is official17:22
sarobmatjazp_ okay. Anything else?17:22
sarob#topic infrastructure team17:22
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sarobWe have the content getting updated17:23
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sarobGood work17:23
dguitarbiteWe are almost done with the generic scripts17:24
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dguitarbitekudos to rleuthi17:24
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sarobwe need to start thinking about new Jenkins jobs17:24
sarobLike lang builders17:24
dguitarbiteyes, but there is still some time for that17:24
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dguitarbitewe need to get the install scripts for OpenStack running17:25
sarobOpenstack-manuals already has the ja out there17:25
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sarobDguitarbite understood17:25
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dguitarbiterluethi: any thing on infra?17:25
rluethiyou covered it pretty much. scripts are ready for testing.17:26
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sarob#action new Jenkins jobs after trainer scripts completed17:26
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rluethiI am concerned that nobody understood the magic that made Jenkins work all of a sudden.17:26
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sarobRluethi me too17:27
dguitarbiteme too17:27
sarobCI is super critical and not well understood17:27
* dguitarbite wondering if theres a god of binaries17:27
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sarobWe should study our tests well17:28
sarobAnything else?17:28
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matjazp_dguitarbite: sure it is.. it's often on infra channel ;)17:28
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dguitarbiteI may not have been magical, we changed the tox.ini which is referred by jenkins to run the CI jobs17:28
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dguitarbiteJenkins may be updating the tox.ini every * hours or so17:29
dguitarbitewe need to confirm that17:29
dguitarbitesince there was no other change and Rogers patch on infra was not merged17:29
sarobDguitarbite that makes more sense17:29
rluethibut I couldn't find the actual copy job in the Jenkins config.17:29
fthamuracan we use the install script in installation guide? or just jenkin specific?17:29
sarobPublish isn't it?17:29
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dguitarbiterluethi: need to take a look into it17:30
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sarobFthamura Jenkins is the tool that builds the guides, verifies the code17:30
rluethidguitarbite: yeah, we should.17:30
dguitarbiteit very well can be a trigger from manuals which is copying it, which would be bad since we need to control that17:31
dguitarbiterluethi: you want to take up the investigation?17:31
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rluethidguitarbite: I can take another look, and then we can discuss the findings. how's that?17:32
dguitarbitesounds good17:32
matjazp_rluethi: how about infra channel? just post there?17:32
dguitarbitematjazp_: we need to make sure that we are doing it right from our end before approacing infra with this issue, what do you guys think?17:33
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dguitarbite#action dguitarbite rluethi investigate jenkins jobs for training-guides17:33
rluethidguitarbite: agreed17:33
sarobDocs people understand their jobs a lot better than infra17:33
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sarobI'd start there17:33
rluethiandreas is back :)17:33
fthamura+1 agree, doc make we are more structured and organized :)17:34
sarobMove on?17:34
dguitarbiteone more thing17:34
dguitarbitewe need the server for setting up ZNC17:34
dguitarbitefor our core reviewers17:34
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sarobAh boy17:35
sarobI dropped that17:35
sarobIrc bouncer17:35
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sarobDguitarbite I'll forward user info today17:35
sarobMe flake17:35
dguitarbiteIll ping you on skype after I wake up17:35
dguitarbitesarob: no issues17:35
sarob#topic spec, blueprint, how to17:36
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sarobAnnegentle around ?17:36
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sarobLet's start with our team17:36
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matjazp_annegent_: specs/BP talk?17:37
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annegent_so just wanted to say, I like the idea of specs, but that I want them organized a particular way, so I wanted to talk about that here17:37
sarobI started writing up spec patches for our team to debate and review17:37
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annegent_and on the mailing list --17:38
matjazp_annegent_: what's you proposal?17:38
annegent_sarob: yes, but the doc program does not current have specs, and we run specs through the program.17:38
annegent_so what I'd like is a doc-specs repo with training in one directory, api in another, users in another, and admin or ops in another17:39
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annegent_I can propose this to the list but wanted your take17:39
sarobAnnegentl_ hmm, okay. We haven't discussed training guide books as the larger team before17:39
annegent_sarob: which larger team?17:39
dguitarbiteannegent_: +1 for docs-specs repo17:39
dguitarbiteother projects have seperate repo for specs17:39
dguitarbiteI guess better for managing the History17:39
annegent_dguitarbite: yep17:39
sarobAnnegentl_ I'm happy to do it17:40
annegent_out of the summit I figured the roadmaps would be enough for docs, but now I think doc-specs is what we need17:40
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sarobannegent_ it would be great to get broad input on design17:40
annegent_doc-specs should also help with the install guide reuse, that sort of thing17:40
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sarobannegent_ I like it. Team?17:41
matjazp_sarob: annegent_: in the mean time, we can still use "our" specs?17:41
annegent_and I want you guys to think of yourselves as a team within the Documentation Program17:41
dguitarbite+1 for doc-specs repo17:41
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annegent_matjazp_: sarob: it just means moving to another repo is all17:41
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sarobanngent_ can I get the new repo going today?17:42
dguitarbitematjazp_: it will not make any difference for the blueprints, just change it from backend17:42
sarobDguitarbite agreed17:42
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annegent_sarob: what I asked last week was a mailing list post, can you start there and point to a patch that contains the new repo? (double up for efficiency)17:42
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sarobAnnegent_ does the docs-spec repo exist?17:43
annegent_sarob: no it does not17:43
annegent_sarob: that's what we're discussing now, whether to create it17:44
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annegent_I also think we'll need to talk about whether the dev specs template is what we want17:44
annegent_or if we need a different template17:44
sarobannegent_ okay, so I will post our list of specs to the docs ML to add to the overall discussion17:44
annegent_I also don't know if you can have a separate review team per directory in a repo17:45
matjazp_sarob: ok, so discussion and voting will be on ML?17:45
sarobAnnegentl_ why not?17:45
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annegent_sarob: I think it'd be great to have a separate review team per directory but I don't know if it's technologically feasible already17:46
sarobMatjazp_ voting needs to be gerrit17:46
dguitarbitematjazp_: for the initial Repo setup, yes17:46
dguitarbitebut once the specs repo is setup17:46
dguitarbiteit will be similar to code review17:46
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dguitarbiteon gerrit17:46
matjazp_dguitarbite: of course.. was talking about first setup and proposed layout of specs17:46
annegent_we're talking about something like nova-specs,n,z17:46
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sarobAnnegent_ we just follow this #link
dguitarbitematjazp_: I guess, the discussion will start from there, but the initial setup is also a commit to the new repo17:47
dguitarbiteit should use gerrit17:47
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annegent_sarob: but you just made that process up, right? we need to think of the bigger picture and existing patterns that people will recognize17:47
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sarobannegent_ well yes we made it17:47
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annegent_sarob: right, so I'm asking that you bring this pattern to the docs mailing list -- I think it's a match and I don't want a one-off process so hence my request17:48
sarobAnnegent_ we start there is what I am pointing out.17:48
sarob#action sarob post current training guides specs to the docs ML17:49
annegent_sarob: what we do currently is step 1 but then step 2 forward is all done on the wiki. I'm asking for step 2 to be in a doc-spec repo17:49
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annegent_sarob: no the action is for you to post a proposal to use a doc-specs repo17:50
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annegent_sarob: is it possible to revise actions? I dunno meetbot :)17:50
dguitarbiteannegent_: I think its above meetbots pay grade ;)17:51
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sarob#action sarob propose docs-spec repo to docs ML17:51
annegent_dguitarbite: heh.17:51
fthamurais there doc-spec's draft? so i can know, what will be inside?17:51
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annegent_fthamura: that's also part of the discussion, is the dev template appropriate for us?17:51
rluethiactually, there should be #undo17:51
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rluethibut it works on the last item, so too late now.17:51
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sarob#undo stupid stuff17:52
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x2e12a10>17:52
sarobOOO ahhhh17:52
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matjazp_sarob: :))17:52
annegent_irobot do you? :)17:52
dguitarbitenice one roger17:52
fthamuraannegent_: what do u mean of "is appropirate for us?"?17:53
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annegent_fthamura: the template is here:
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sarob#action sarob propose docs-spec repo to doc ML17:54
annegent_#action Anne to respond to sarob's post with discussion about the template17:54
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annegent_I really want us to go in this direction, let's make it happen this week17:54
sarobI think we are good now17:54
sarobAnnegent_ this morning17:54
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sarob#topic any other business17:55
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matjazp_ok.. so I'll delay new BPs for few days17:55
sarob5 minute warning17:55
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annegent_sarob: gogogo17:55
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fthamuramatjazp_: what is BPs? i see several time mentioned here.17:55
sarobMatjazp_ put the details into the wiki for right now17:55
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matjazp_sarob: its already there17:56
dguitarbiteI guess, we meet later for discussing about Developer Guides design17:56
sarobMatjazp sweet17:56
fthamuraaha :) thx ;)17:56
sarobDguitarbite yes, it's gotten mixed up in this process change17:57
annegent_or discuss in the blueprint :)17:57
dguitarbitesarob: yeah, lets discuss the time then or keep it for next week?17:57
sarobNext week I think17:57
sarobWe can start a doc ML thread in the mean time17:57
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matjazp_sarob: agree17:58
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sarobAnything else ?17:58
sarobsilence = acceptance17:59
sarobCheers people17:59
annegent_that's all I got17:59
annegent_thanks sarob dguitarbite matjazp_ rluethi fthamura :)17:59
fthamurabye ;)17:59
dguitarbitethanks for attending the meeting :)17:59
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anteaya#startmeeting third-party18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'18:00
fthamurasarob: yup, still learning how to understand the way all of you work18:00
anteayawho is here for the third-party meeting?18:00
lyxusI am18:00
thingeeanteaya: o/18:00
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anteayanice to see you thingee18:00
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anteayalet's get rolling18:01
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anteayaa light agenda so far, if you add an item mid-meeting tell me so I can refresh the wikipage and see it18:01
anteayaour agenda18:01
anteaya#topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission18:01
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anteayawelcome everyone18:02
anteayahere is the openstack mission if you don't already know it18:02
anteaya#info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable.18:02
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anteaya#topic Review of previous week's open action items18:02
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anteaya    ilyashakhat__ to rename driverlog ci tested? to ci exists18:02
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anteayailyashakhat: are you in attendance?18:03
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anteayaapparently not18:03
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anteayaso the rename happened, thanks ilyashakhat and driverlog team18:04
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anteayathere are still a number of questions I have and changes I would like to see, so perhaps another agenda item in future18:04
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anteayamoving on18:04
anteaya#topic Announcements18:04
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anteayaanyone have any announcements?18:05
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anteayaI don't have any18:05
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anteayanext topic then18:05
anteaya#topic OpenStack Program items18:05
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anteaya#info patches up for third_party.rst (anteaya)18:05
anteayaI have two patches up to make changes to third_party.rst18:06
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anteayaplease take the time to review and comment18:06
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anteayaanyone have any comments now?18:06
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lyxuslooks perfect for me18:07
anteayalyxus: thank you18:07
anteayaanyone else with any feedback?18:07
asselinanteaya, just got back from vacation so didn't look at them18:07
anteayaasselin: welcome back18:08
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anteayayou can look at them when you have time18:08
anteayaand thank you18:08
anteayashall we move on?18:08
krtaylorthey look good, I only had the one super minor nit18:08
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anteayakrtaylor: I depend on your nits18:08
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anteayaanyone else have any other items from openstack programs?18:09
anteayaokay next topic18:09
anteaya#topic Deadlines & Deprecations18:09
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anteayadoes anyone have any deadlines or deprecations that they haven't communicated in this meeting yet?18:09
anteayathingee: anything from cinder?18:10
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anteayaokay moving on18:11
anteaya#topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account18:11
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anteayaanyone maintaining a third party ci account with any items this week?18:11
thingeeanteaya: not at the moment :)18:11
anteayathingee: kk, thanks18:11
swestonnot from us18:12
anteayasweston: great18:12
lyxusnothing here too18:12
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anteayaI have a question18:12
anteayaI don't know if anyone was following the exchange on the infra ml18:12
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anteayabut the question of hosting logs came up18:12
lyxusabout the dropbox ?18:12
anteayawhat are people using to host the logs18:12
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anteayayes, the dropbox email discussion18:12
lyxusapache web server18:13
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anteayalyxus: thanks18:13
anteayasweston: you?18:13
swestonanteaya: I have been following it closely.  Your recommendation was a good one, apache over https is a solid solution18:13
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anteayasweston: thanks, is that what you are doing now?18:13
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lyxushttps might be a bit overkill though18:13
swestonanteaya: I would recommend that people purchase an ssl certificate however18:13
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anteayasorry when I said secure I should have choosen a different word18:14
asselinI'm just about to start setting that up. I was planning to do http18:14
anteayaI didn't requrie https18:14
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akerrhttps seems odd for open source logs 😊18:14
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anteayaI required that the server is not open to hacking18:14
anteayawhich happened with another ci account18:14
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anteayawhat would should I have used if 'secure' was the wrong one?18:14
swestonhttps has some benefits, including ensurance that the client is actually using your server18:14
lyxusanteaya, I never said that you did :) I was refering to sweston message :)18:15
hemnaanteaya, I'm setting up a vm on hpcloud to host our 3rd party CI logs.  was planning on just using apache to serve them up.18:15
kevinbentonwhat was the reason for https. is there sensitive information in some of these logs?18:15
anteayahemna: thanks18:15
hemnaI was not planning on using https18:15
anteayano, I didn't mean that https is required18:15
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krtaylorPowerKVM is using the IBM SoftLayer swift service18:15
anteayaI meant prevent someone from hacking your server18:15
anteayahow should I have said, set up a server, prevent it from being hacked and put apache on it?18:16
lyxusanteaya, maybe says a "hardened server"18:16
anteayakrtaylor: interesting18:16
anteayaah a better term thank you, a hardened server18:16
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anteayaI'll use that18:16
anteayato clear up any confusion I may have cause18:17
anteayahttps is not a requirement18:17
swestonanteaya: maybe as a recommendation, but not a requirement.  and I wouldn't recommend using hardened that really has a different meaning18:17
anteayawhen serving logs18:17
anteayasweston: hmmmm, what does hardened mean to you?18:17
anteayamaybe I should just say 'a server that won't be hacked'18:17
anteayasince that is what I mean18:17
jgriffithanteaya: sounds a lot like a challenge :)18:18
anteayaoh great18:18
anteayanow I am digging myself holes18:18
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jgriffithsorry... couldn't resist18:18
anteayaI'm open to better wording18:18
anteayaha ha ha18:18
swestonanteaya: hardened means that steps have been taken to prevent compromise of the server, this usually means ids and ips and significant customization18:18
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asselinanteaya, can you be more specific to what happened in the other ci case?18:19
anteayayeah, not neccessary18:19
anteayaasselin: sure18:19
anteayatrianths set up a server, rendering the logs timed out for me18:19
anteayahe assured me he could reach the logs18:19
anteayaI told him timeouts were unacceptable, and to review his server logs18:19
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anteayahe had been hacked18:20
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anteayahow do I say, don't let that happen to you18:20
anteayato others setting up logs?18:20
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swestonI would need to think about the wording some more18:21
anteayaokay we can leave it until next time, or we can discuss it on the ml thread18:21
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anteayaothers are welcome to contribute18:21
anteayaremember I have never set up one of these systems myself18:21
anteayaso I am always glad when someone who has is willing to share their experiences18:22
asselinyes, I don't think anyone is trying to be hacked....18:22
anteayaI would just like to avoid more server logs being hacked in future18:22
asselinso maybe we need e.g. a predefined image that others can use....for example.18:22
anteayabut if this is someone's first time setting up a server, they might not know basic maintenance18:22
anteayaah then we are into maintenance of the image18:23
anteayawhich I am unwilling to take on18:23
anteayanot saying it is a bad idea18:23
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anteayasaying that tools require maintenance18:23
asselinwhere does infra store their log files? can we upload there?18:23
swestonyes, maybe it would be better to make some general recommendations for log servers18:23
anteayaasselin: that is a good question18:23
krtaylorasselin, no, there is not enough room18:24
anteayakrtaylor: is that what it was, space constraints?18:24
anteayasweston: I agree18:24
swestonfor example, remote syslog, replication, file versioning18:24
krtaylorinitially, it was discussed, but logs have exploded and with the 3rd party requirements, it is just too much need18:24
swestonbut be clear that the only requirement is that the logs are available for other to review18:25
anteayaanyone willing to open an etherpad so we can work on a draft for general recommendations for log servers?18:25
swestonand how long they should be available for18:25
krtaylor1 month18:25
asselinperhaps the 'image' used by openstack can be used by third parties?18:25
krtaylorwe discussed at last summit18:25
anteayaasselin: what image are we referring to?18:25
asselinthe image used by this: logs.openstack.org18:25
anteayaI am not following18:26
swestonyup, here
anteayasweston: thank you18:26
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asselinsomeone at openstack setup a server that "cannot be hacked". Perhaps they have an image or a script already defined we can re-use.18:26
anteayaasselin: ah18:27
anteayathose are our puppet manifests18:27
anteayapublicly available18:27
anteayamanifest for all infra servers ^18:28
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anteayaany one else have anything to say on this?18:29
asselinI don't see it "defined" just consumed18:29
anteayasome of us have moved to the etherpad18:29
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anteayaclarkb: tells me it is part of the static.o.o host18:31
asselinanteaya, thanks18:31
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clarkbthough long term plan is still to move to swift18:32
clarkbwe have hit a speed bump with a jenkins plugin being silly though18:32
anteayaclarkb: thanks18:32
anteayawhich plugin?18:32
krtaylorclarkb, are you still interested in how we are pushing to swift?18:33
swestonclarkb: I know what you mean, jenkins has been my biggest blocker lately as well18:33
krtaylorI wasn't sure if we were switching to zuul approach18:33
clarkbkrtaylor: yes very interested18:33
anteayaclarkb: well it is the third party meeting and you may have the floor18:33
krtaylorclarkb, ok, sorry for the delay, I went on vacation18:33
anteayawelcome to expand if you wish18:33
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krtaylorclarkb, always has the floor  :)18:34
anteayaha ha ha18:34
anteayabut not if you don't have time18:34
clarkbso zuul has learned how to pass swift time bound HMAC urls18:34
anteayasorry I know you aren't prepared18:34
clarkbinto the jobs18:34
notmynameclarkb: that's cool!18:34
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clarkbso we can pass relatively safe credentials to jobs that we don't trust that only allow them to upload to a specific location for a specified time period18:35
clarkbunfortunately the data zuul gives the job is newline delimited and the jenkins envinject plugin thinks newlines should be converted to ?18:35
clarkber >18:35
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clarkbso we either need to remove that plugin, upgrade that plugin, or go with a different data format18:35
clarkbjhesketh has done most of the work around this18:35
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clarkbwe are very excited for the switch but need to sort out what we are going to do with that plugin first18:36
clarkbprobably remove it completely18:36
clarkbbut that requires we convert a couple jobs that depend on it first18:36
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clarkband I think that is all I have18:36
anteayathanks clarkb18:37
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anteayaanyone with questions for clarkb?18:37
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anteayaokay well jhesketh in in au, so if anyone is in that timezone and wants to help with the conversion, you will learn a lot about infra processes18:38
anteayaand we are grateful for your help18:38
clarkbnotmyname: yes very cool and excited to get this working18:38
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clarkbnotmyname: it should allow us to care a lot less about our log server :)18:38
anteayaanyone object if we change the topic to open discussion?18:39
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anteayahere we go18:39
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anteaya#topic Open Discussion18:39
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notmynameclarkb: nice. the point of swift is to offload the hard problems of storage so you just worry about your app. perfect use case!18:39
anteayaanyone have any items for open discussion?18:39
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anteayain addition to swift being a great option for log storage?18:40
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notmynameanteaya: s/log//18:40
anteayaa great option for storage18:40
anteayaanything else on anyone's mind?18:41
anteayaI don't want to cut you off but I don't want to drag on if we are done for today18:41
swestonI have something18:41
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swestonhas there been any effort to create any standards on how long a system has to report their results back to Gerrit?18:42
anteayaso length of time for tests to run18:42
anteayanot that I am aware18:42
swestonI can see that this may take some significant effort and time18:42
anteayasweston: is there a reason you ask?18:43
anteayahow long are your test runs taking?18:43
swestonnot more than about 30 minutes18:43
swestonbut i've seen (and heard of) other systems taking days18:44
swestonwondering what sort of problems this may cause18:44
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swestonyay, clarkb18:44
clarkbdelay like that would make me less likely to listen to third party results18:44
clarkbwhich really impacts that particular third party more than anyone else18:45
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krtaylorI remember discussions centering around ~4 hours18:45
anteayaand third party as a whole18:45
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anteayasince in the eyes of the community third party is a group and is evaluated by the actions of any system18:45
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anteayaso systems running wild reduce trust in all third party ci18:46
swestonso should there be a limit defined, somewhere. that if you don't report back within a certain amount of time, your system has missed it's chance18:46
anteayaor running poorly18:46
anteayakrtaylor: do you recall where the ~4 hour conversation took place?18:46
anteayaI don't remember that one18:46
anteayasweston: yes I think so18:47
anteayasweston: would you like to offer either a thread to the mailing list to kick off that discussion?18:47
krtayloranteaya, I don't remember exactly, if not infra then nova I would think18:47
anteayaand then if ~4 hours is the consensue we have a log of it18:47
swestonanteaya: absolutely, I will start drafting it now18:47
anteayakrtaylor: kk18:47
anteayasweston: if you draft in an etherpad others can join you18:48
krtaylorit would prob be worth discussing again18:48
anteayaand offer edits18:48
anteayakrtaylor: /me nods18:48
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anteayaso this one with go to the ml, please weigh in with your thoughts when it does18:49
anteayaand support sweston's email draft please18:49
anteayaanything else for today?18:49
anteayaI'd like to thank everyone for attending18:50
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anteayaour meetings are still small but they are starting to become rather productive18:50
anteayathanks everyone for your contributions18:50
anteayasee you next week18:50
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devanandahi all! who's here for Ironic meeting?19:00
linggaoHi all19:00
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BadCubhi all19:01
devananda#startmeeting ironic19:01
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devananda#chair NobodyCam19:01
openstackCurrent chairs: NobodyCam devananda19:01
devanandaas usual, the agenda can be found ^19:01
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devananda#topic greetings, announcement, etc19:02
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devanandaI think the "bug tag" announcement may have been left from last week, but to reiterate19:02
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devanandaas we are filing and triaging bugs, let's try to tag them using the official tags19:02
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devanandaalso, lots of thanks to dtantsur for work on that :)19:03
dtantsurnp :)19:03
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devanandaas for the midcycle meetup(s), there's info here for ours19:03
dtantsuraction for me or somebody: to add the same tags to python-ironicclient19:03
NobodyCamshould this be done by the bug submiter or person doing triage19:03
devanandaNobodyCam: either one19:04
dtantsurNobodyCam, both19:04
NobodyCamack ack :)19:04
devanandaif you are able to make it to the Ironic meetup, please RSVP on the links from that wiki page19:04
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devanandaso we can tell the venue how many to expect19:04
devanandaI've estimated that we'll be between 20 and 30 ppl ...19:04
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ShrewsHow many plan to attend the TripleO one instead/as well?19:05
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dtantsursorry for interrupting you: is anyone attending meet-up in Paris in the beginning of June?19:05
devanandaShrews: i was just about to ask that :)19:05
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devanandaI will be at the tripleo midcycle19:06
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* Shrews will attend tripleo instead19:06
ifarkasdtantsur, I am:
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* NobodyCam should be at Ironic's meetup 19:06
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* matty_dubs is attending only the Ironic+Nova one19:07
lucasagomesdtantsur, yeah me too19:07
romchegdtantsur: viktors will be there so you can discuss oslo.db :)19:07
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NobodyCamwe may have just lost devananda19:07
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* Shrews mourns the loss19:08
NobodyCamlol yep lost his connection19:08
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rloo_all in favour of NobodyCam taking over...19:08
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* matty_dubs for one, welcomes our new Ironic overlords19:09
mrdaoh, its only his *connection* :)19:09
romchegking is dead long live the king19:09
NobodyCam#topic Release cycle progress report19:10
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NobodyCamwe'll skip over ironic-specs and blueprint status (devananda)19:10
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lucasagomesok deva is off, so I think I can talk about the refactor19:10
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NobodyCamso lucasagomes your up19:10
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lucasagomesthe base patches and the dependencies in devstack and tempest are merged19:10
lucasagomesthere's 2 patches left for the instance_info work19:11
lucasagomesthe migration script and another one changing the on the driver to make it not delete the pxe_deploy_{kernel,ramdisk} when tearing down the node19:11
* lucasagomes will grab the links19:11
lucasagomesand that's it :)19:12
ifarkasone question if anyone knows: what's the status of the ceilometer integration?19:13
NobodyCamwe'll come back to get deva's report19:13
NobodyCamifarkas: I'd have to follow up and looking to it19:14
NobodyCamshall we move on to the Sub-team reports19:14
NobodyCam#topic Sub-team status reports19:14
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NobodyCamgoing to go a little out of order19:15
ifarkasNobodyCam, ok, I just found a WIP patch but wanted to check the progress19:15
NobodyCamJroll I know you have leave early19:15
jrolloh yeah!19:15
NobodyCamwanta give ipa's report19:15
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jrollso, first off, we announced onmetal last week, which is based on ironic. thank you all for your help!19:16
mrdajroll: \o/19:16
jrollsecond, I wrote a blog post about how we run ironic with IPA for onmetal, for anyone interested:
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jrollconfigs and all are included there19:16
jrollthird, we've been working on powering through our todo list. as usual, that's located here:
jrollwe're refactoring the agent patches to be easier to merge19:17
jrollthis is the main agent patch now (still needs tests)
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jrolland features that the PXE driver doesn't have will be applied on top of that19:17
NobodyCamawesome stuff jroll19:17
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NobodyCamwb devananda_19:18
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jrollfeel free to review that agent patch, I should have the tests up later today, hopefully19:18
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dtantsurjroll, is it just a new review request?19:18
devanandaugh. lost connection to irc proxy. reconnected directly... so no history here19:18
dtantsurI mean, it's not the same as I saw :)19:18
jrollone last thing, JoshNang worked friday on an infra job to post an agent image tarball every time a patch is merged. unclear if that's working yet, but if not it will be soon19:19
NobodyCamdevananda: it will be in the logs :)19:19
jrolldtantsur: yes, we'll be abandoning the 100-patchset review soon :)19:19
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dtantsurjroll, nooooo... I wanted to see 100th patchset so badly :(19:19
NobodyCamwe doing IPA subteam report as jroll needs to jump out a bit early19:19
jrolland, I believe that's all I have right now for IPA19:19
jrolldtantsur: lol, I can submit patches anyway :P19:19
dtantsurjroll, any updates on testing IPA?19:19
jrolldtantsur: that infra job I mentioned is the first step, the smaller agent patch is the second19:20
jrolldtantsur: planning on building tempest jobs to test against 10102019:20
devanandaNobodyCam: ack, thanks19:20
devanandaNobodyCam: have we covered other subteams yet?19:21
NobodyCamdevananda: thou we do need to loop back and get a ironic-specs and blueprint status update too19:21
NobodyCamnot yet19:22
devanandaok, let's move on then19:22
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devanandashrews, adam_g: any updates on our tempest test status?19:22
NobodyCamIntegration Testing19:22
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devanandai think there was a bunch of discussion about taht last week19:22
adam_gour check and  gate jobs look to be stabalized.19:23
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adam_gim currently working on weeding thru tempest test failures that are the result of unsupported hypervisor features, and adding new flags to tempest to avoid them in our job19:23
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adam_gwith the goal of removing the redundent devstack jobs, and consolidating them into just a few19:23
devanandalooks like our tempest job is not voting in our gate still. pending
adam_gand getting rid of the big ugly regex we use in devstack-gate19:23
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devanandaadam_g: awesome19:24
adam_gShrews, any updates on how the rebuild testing is coming along?19:24
Shrewsnothing from my end except added a new compute flag for the rebuild feature. and we should probably think about adding separate icehouse tests at some point19:24
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Shrewsbut rebuild test is ready to merge, IMO19:25
adam_gthats about it from the tempest front19:26
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devanandaNobodyCam: any news on the tripleo CI front?19:26
devanandaany progress with the tripleo-undercloud test?19:26
NobodyCamI poked infra this morning on the package19:27
NobodyCamgah.. patch19:27
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devanandadtantsur: hi! any updates on bugs and fedora coverage?19:27
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dtantsurdevananda, Fedora: devstack work out-of-box once my patch got merged, nothing new here19:28
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NobodyCamdtantsur: nice19:28
dtantsurto the bugs19:28
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dtantsurpeople like numbers, so here are numbers: 2 New bugs (0); 123 Open bugs (+5); 36 In-progress bugs (-5); 1 Critical bug (0); 20 High importance bugs (+1); 6 Incomplete bug19:29
devananda#info devstack support for Ironic is working on fedora now19:29
dtantsuras to me, we're pretty where we used to be last week19:29
devanandaso, could be worse (and could be better)19:30
dtantsurI managed to do some unassigning and reassigning though19:30
dtantsurand I have one thing to try clarify19:30
dtantsurwe lack clarify in how we use assignee field vs "In Progress"19:30
NobodyCamdtantsur: the one critical bug still open?19:31
dtantsurto me "In Progress" == assigned and that's why:19:31
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dtantsurNobodyCam, it cound Fix Commited too19:31
dtantsurthat's default Launchpad stats, thank you for letting me now19:31
NobodyCamahh just not released yet ...19:31
dtantsurnext time I'll probably count manually or write a script19:32
devanandadtantsur: I believe you can filter out bugs by status with URI parameters19:32
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dtantsur1. In Progress should be assigned, because there should be one responsible for this "progress"19:32
devanandawould be good to show stats for bugs not counting fix-committed, otherwise the stats will only decrease when we release milestones19:32
dtantsur2. assigned should be "In Progress" just because it's otherwise hard to track assigned bugs19:32
devanandaso, IMO, and based on
dtantsuri.e. launchpad cannot "filter all assigned bugs"19:33
devanandabugs which are "in progress" _must_ have an assignee19:33
dtantsurwhat about the opposite direction?19:33
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devanandawhile a bug may have an assignee without being in progress yet, eg. the person has just started working and has not proposed a fix yet19:34
dtantsurdevananda, so for you "In Progress" means "Has patch"?19:34
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lucasagomesthat's how I understand it19:34
lucasagomesin progress == a patch has been proposed for that bug19:34
devanandadtantsur: that's the emergent behavior which I have observed19:34
devanandathat doesn't make it good, necessarily19:35
lucasagomesI'm also fine if we add a policy to, if u assign urself to a bug just mark it as "in progress" straight away19:35
dtantsurdevananda, the only downside is that you can't easily get all assigned bugs via launchpad ui19:35
devanandadtantsur: if we required that all assigned bugs be marked "in progress" as soon as they're assigned, we wouldn't gain anything19:35
Shrewsalso very hard to enforce19:36
devananda*we wouldn't gain anything that I'm aware of19:36
devanandadtantsur: if you look at a milestone, you can see which bugs are assigned, eg
dtantsurdevananda, I'm ok with this approach, than next question: should we force people to not set "In Progress" while they don't have a patch?19:36
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dtantsurbecause some people set "In Progress" right away19:37
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matty_dubsThat's not terribly intuitive -- to me, as soon as I start working on a patch, it's 'in progress'19:37
matty_dubsI'm not arguing that it _should_ be that way, but that it's what the term intuitively seems to mean19:37
jrollisn't there a 'fix proposed' status?19:38
mrdaso I see the difference between assigned and in progress being whether someone is actually working on it.  People assign themselves to "reserve" a bug, but haven't necessarily started working on it.19:38
romchegI think it should not be set to In Progress before no one can see the progress19:38
mrdait's not good doing that, btw19:38
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dtantsurmrda, I don't particularly like reserving bugs, yeah19:38
devanandamrda: exactly19:38
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devanandadtantsur: so what is it that we need to solve -- launchpad is a tool we're using to organize work among a very distributed bunch of people19:38
mrdabut worth noting that once aa patch is pushed, gerrit moves bugs to in progress if they're not already19:39
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devanandadtantsur: I dont want us to create more work for people (or for you) just to police bug status :)19:39
NobodyCamhow about adding a commit like "I have an idea for a fix.. but can not start until x/y/z19:39
dtantsurdevananda, my only concern is people reserving bug and forgetting about it19:39
matty_dubsNobodyCam: Do you mean a comment?19:39
devanandadtantsur: taht said, we may be able to create tools (ttx has some we can use as templates to get started) to enforce some of these things for us -- if that's going to be beneficial to our development process19:39
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NobodyCamwhy yes I do19:39
mrdaNobodyCam: at least then it opens the door for someone to "steal" if if they have free cycles beforehand...19:40
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jrollI don't see the problem with jumping in IRC and asking "hey mrda, this is assigned to you, are you working on it or may I?"19:40
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lucasagomesjroll, +119:40
devanandadtantsur: so for "reserved and forgotten" I think simply enforcing that an assigned bug with no patch revision in the last N days should get human attention and _possibly_ be unassigned19:40
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devanandadtantsur: is totally reasonable19:40
NobodyCamya, and they would also know someone already has an idea for a fix , and can ping them19:40
jrolllet people mark bugs as in progress19:40
dtantsurdevananda, N = 7 IIRC?19:40
jrollbut hold them responsible for that bug19:40
devanandadtantsur: and I bet we can create a script that polls launchpad and prints a list of those bugs19:40
mrdajroll: except tz.  We are a global project (it's 5:10am right now here :)19:40
jrollmrda: so give them a day to respond19:41
devanandadtantsur: that's what we agreed on last time, ya. was just speaking in teh generic sense :)19:41
dtantsurdevananda, I'm thinking of this script already, yeah19:41
jrollmrda: send an email if necessary19:41
* dtantsur likes dashboards :)19:41
jrollmrda: there's enough to do where nobody will be blocked because they can't work on bug xyz19:41
matty_dubsIs this all documented somewhere? It seems like it should be.19:41
devanandaso, i think we should leave the states as they are now -- folks are mostly doing the right thing, I think.19:41
dtantsurmatty_dubs, mostly in hours heads :) I wanted to writing something after this discussion19:41
dtantsur* hours = ours19:42
devanandaand create a script which we can use to help catch forgotten assigned bugs19:42
devanandaanyone disagree with ^ ?19:42
matty_dubsdtantsur: Yeah, I think that'll be good, to make sure everyone's on the same page19:42
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matty_dubsdevananda: +119:42
jrolldevananda: I'm fine with that, but s/script/launchpad URL/19:42
dtantsurnot everything is possible with launchpad URL's I'm afraid...19:43
NobodyCamI'm good with status quo19:43
devanandajroll: i'm not sure it's as simple as a launchpad URL but perhaps someone can host the outptu of said script and refresh taht every N hours or something19:43
jrolldevananda: sure, I hope it's possible but if not, sure, a script19:43
dtantsurack, thanks to everyone :)19:43
dtantsurI guess that's all for me19:44
mrdathanks dtantsur19:44
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devananda#agreed continue using assignee + "in progress" in the current (flexible) way, document our expectation that an assigned bug must be actively worked on, and create a script (or URL with result of script) displaying forgotten bugs for all to see19:44
devanandadtantsur: cheers19:44
devanandaGheRivero: hi! any updates on the oslo front?19:44
GheRiverothe oslo.db patch is ready. Still with problems when testing in parallel the db migrations tests19:45
GheRiverobut that an issue we already have19:45
devanandaGheRivero: sort of....19:45
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lucasagomesGheRivero, do you think we should wait that to be fixed before merging it?19:46
devanandaGheRivero: ironic is not actually running migration tests in our gate jobs AFAIK19:46
GheRiverolucasagomes: yes. I will wait fot the fixes to get it merged19:46
GheRiveroand activate the migrations tests in the gate jobs19:46
devanandaGheRivero: great, thanks19:46
devanandaromcheg: hi! any updates on the nova-> ironic db migration?19:47
romchegHi all!19:47
romchegYes, there are some updates19:47
romchegSo I moved the code to Nova19:47
devananda#info oslo.db patch is ready, but still has a few problems with db migration tests. We should merge it once those are fixed, and enable db migration tests in Ironic's gate at that time.19:47
* jroll has to run, enjoy the rest of the meeting :)19:48
devanandajroll: thanks, ciao!19:48
lucasagomesjroll, see ya19:48
romchegI'm testing now a new patch set that does not copy Ironic models19:48
devanandaromcheg: do we have any volunteers yet for the grenade testing of this upgrade?19:49
romchegI remember direct imports caused conflicts in the past. It seems now the problem is fixed19:49
romchegdevananda: No one volunteered19:49
devanandaanyone want to volunteer now? heh heh19:49
romchegI can take a look at that too, if no one wants19:50
romchegBut more time is required19:50
romchegSo I have also made a tool that updates nova flavors19:50
romchegThe only question is the input format19:50
devanandaromcheg: ack. please continue focusing on the nova migration itself19:50
rloo_does the migration tool belong in nova/baremetal, or ironic? (just wondering)19:50
romchegrloo_ nova19:50
rloo_romcheg: but it is going to modify ironic db?19:51
romchegIt is19:51
rloo_romcheg: so why nova?19:51
devanandarloo_: that question was raised on the nova spec, but nova team hasn't answered yet19:51
rloo_romcheg: also wondering if it is in nova, and we modify ironic db still before juno, how hard/easy will it be to update it in nova?19:51
romchegThere was a discussion in specs, there's still no answer but it's more likely it will be nova19:52
rloo_romcheg, devananda: ok.19:52
devanandarloo_: it's nova's responsibility to accept a migration tool away from the driver they will be deprecating19:52
romchegSo regarding to the input format19:52
devanandarloo_: but that's a good point -- we may need to make changes to that migration tool before the end of juno19:52
romchegEvery flavour might have it's own deploy kernel and ramdisk19:53
rloo_romcheg: just wondering. does the tool assume the ironic db is 'housed' by the same db server as the nova db?19:53
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devananda#info seeking volunteers for creating grenade testing for upgrades from nova-baremetal to ironic. reference:
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romchegI think it's better to make csv file like flavor, new_kernel_uuid, new_ramdisk_uuid and give that to the migration tool19:54
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NobodyCam* five minute beep19:55
romchegWhat do you think?19:55
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devanandaromcheg: AFAIK, it needs to be able to run against a deployment of openstack19:55
devanandaromcheg: so if one tool connects to nova and saves a .csv with that info, and a second tool parses that .csv -- that's probably fine, and may be more easily tested19:56
romchegdevananda: It's the user who builds and uploads the stuff to glance19:56
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NobodyCamdevananda: dose it need to support live migrations?19:56
devanandaok, gotta move on19:56
romchegNobodyCam: Oh, please not now, it's such a pain :)19:56
devanandafor anyone curious about the upgrade path, it's all proposed there ^19:56
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devanandathanks to everyoen for the great subteam reports again this week!19:57
devananda#topic open discussion19:57
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devananda3 minutes left - go :)19:57
dtantsurifarkas, had question about ceilometer IIRC19:57
lucasagomesidk if there's enough time but19:57
matty_dubsFor the meetup -- are people leaving mid-day Weds., or should we plan 3 full days?19:57
lucasagomesdo we still want consistency on the partition sizes parameters (ephemeral, root, swap)?19:57
devanandalucasagomes: i think you wanted to bring up the GB/MB discussion19:57
lucasagomesdevananda, yup19:57
ifarkasdevanand, yeah, wanted to check the progress of the celiometer integration19:57
lucasagomesif so, how people want to do it?19:58
devanandayea, might be worth taking to the mailing list ... this one has dragged on for too long IMO19:58
lucasagomes1- Everthing to be in MB?19:58
lucasagomes2- Everything GB and float (so 0.5 == 512MB)?19:58
lucasagomes3- Everything GB and rounding it up the swap size (because swap is MB in nova) so if users says 512 MB they will get 1GB in Ironic?19:58
NobodyCamif anyone happens to be in infra a poke for would be awesome19:58
devanandaifarkas: afaik no work has been done this cycle19:58
lucasagomesdevananda, ack19:58
devanandaifarkas: we had a summit session with ceilometer folks19:58
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ifarkasdevanand, thanks, I will check it with Haomeng19:58
devanandaifarkas: my take away was that they feel ironic should expose $things ina  pluggable way, but ceilometer probably won't consume them initially19:58
NobodyCamlucasagomes: are there plans for nova to move to GB (EVER)19:58
matty_dubsIt didn't go swimmingly.19:58
lucasagomesNobodyCam, no19:59
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NobodyCami may vote to have our interface match theirs (ie MB)19:59
devanandaifarkas: hmm, looks ilke there weren't a lot of notes there :(19:59
lucasagomesNobodyCam, only for swap?19:59
dtantsurlucasagomes, as before I vote for (1)19:59
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dtantsuri.e. MiB for everything20:00
lucasagomesdtantsur, yeah cheers20:00
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NobodyCamdtantsur: ++20:00
devanandatime's up - let's continue in channel as needed20:00
lucasagomesok 2 votes for 1)20:00
lucasagomesdevananda, ?20:00
rloo_lucasagomes: but if we do MB, then we're allowing folks to do root/ephemeral in sizes that aren't GB units.20:00
lucasagomesoh time20:00
devanandalucasagomes: oh, do we need a vote real quick?20:00
lucasagomesdevananda, nop20:00
lucasagomeslet's go to the channel20:00
NobodyCamthank you all20:01
devanandak k20:01
romchegThanks everyone!20:01
rloo_lucasagomes: and I thought that was one of lifeless' objections.20:01
devanandathanks everyone!20:01
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mesteryhi people of neutron!20:58
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obondarevhi all20:59
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SumitNaiksatamhi all!21:00
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salv-orlandoy u no start meeting?21:02
mesteryarosen carl_baldwin garyk marun nati_ueno: around?21:02
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mestery#startmeeting networking21:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Jun 23 21:02:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:02
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mestery#link Agenda21:02
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mestery#topic Announcements21:02
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mesteryThe mid-cycle sprint focused on nova-network parity is coming up in 2 weeks!21:03
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mesteryHope to see all those who signed up there and make some great progress!@21:03
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mestery#topic Bugs21:04
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mesteryenikanorov: Hi! Any major bugs the team should be aware of this week?21:04
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enikanorovi have a quick update21:04
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enikanorovi've filed a few new bgs on lock wait timeouts/deadlocks21:04
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enikanorovthese were seen in the gate from time to time, quite rarely though21:05
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mesteryThanks enikanorov! I see them in the agenda as well.21:05
enikanorovone of the constant producer of the gate failures related to DB is carl_baldwin's patch that separates rpc_workers into separate processes21:05
enikanorovanother bug that i've not filed yet is some issue in loadbalancer_db21:05
enikanorovit seems to be hit very often in neutron jobs since 23rd of june21:06
carl_baldwinenikanorov: that patch shouldn’t be run very often.21:06
ihrachyshkaenikanorov: vmware one?21:06
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enikanorovihrachyshka: not sure it's vmware, but 'ive not looked too closely yet21:06
salv-orlandoihrachyshka: the patch causing ut failures has been reverted.21:07
ihrachyshkathat one?
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332724 in neutron "neutron.tests.unit.vmware.vshield.test_lbaas_plugin.TestLoadbalancerPlugin.test_create_vip_with_invalid_router often fails  in gate" [High,Confirmed]21:07
enikanorovno, not this one21:07
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salv-orlandoihrachyshka: we’re talking about the load balancing scenario test.21:07
enikanorovhere's the query for the new issue21:07
enikanorovno, that's API test actualy21:07
salv-orlandoI and enikanorov looked at it today. I have not been able to find the root cause yet (well did not really spent a lot of time investigating)...21:08
enikanorovanyway, that's not filed yet, so feel free to do it21:08
enikanorovsalv-orlando: that one i'm talking about is also different, not related to scenario21:08
salv-orlandoenikanorov: so that’s yet another issue wrt the one I saw21:08
enikanorovsalv-orlando: yes21:09
markmcclainok.. please file a classifier for it, so that it shows up in elastic-recheck21:09
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* mestery loses track of how many separate issues we're discussing here.21:09
salv-orlandofolks: it’s 2 issue21:09
mesterysalv-orlando: Thanks. :)21:09
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mesteryI was also just alerted by infra about an ew version of sqalalchemy (0.9.5) which is causing UT failures for neutron and nova.21:10
enikanorovmarkmcclain: ok21:10
mesteryI don't have details yet, literally they just pinged me in-channel now.21:10
salv-orlandoone in API tests - one in scenario tests. I have not yet filed a e-r query for the latter as I’m hoping to find a trace which is a bit more precise than the console log message21:10
mesterySo, there's that too.21:10
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enikanorovmestery: that's interesting21:10
mesteryenikanorov: Indeed. :)21:10
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enikanorovthat's it on bugs from my side21:10
mesteryThanks enikanorov!21:10
mesteryAny other bugs the team should be aware of right now?21:11
markmcclainsalv-orlando: ah cool21:11
ihrachyshkaI think we should be aware of
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332724 in neutron "neutron.tests.unit.vmware.vshield.test_lbaas_plugin.TestLoadbalancerPlugin.test_create_vip_with_invalid_router often fails  in gate" [High,Confirmed]21:11
mlavallemestery: we said Thursday that we want to review the bugs preventing the full Neutron job to execute21:11
mesterymlavalle: Should we do that during the tempest section or now?21:11
ihrachyshkathis is a unit test failing in gate, sporadically21:11
mesteryihrachyshka: enikanorov is assigned that issue at the moment it looks like.21:11
mlavallemestery: let's do it in the tempest section21:12
mesterymlavalle: OK, thanks. :)21:12
ihrachyshkaI think unit tests were quite stable recently, but now they fail too, not nice21:12
enikanorovihrachyshka: i have some observations about this bug, but were not able to find the root cause21:12
ihrachyshkamestery: I'm not sure whether anyone is *actively* working on it (if not, I may be of help tomorrow)21:12
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ihrachyshkaenikanorov: ok, let's sync on this tomorrow21:12
mesteryihrachyshka: Please sync with enikanorov on that one tomorrow if you could.21:12
mesteryihrachyshka: Ha! :)21:13
enikanorovihrachyshka: sure21:13
salv-orlandoihrachishka, mestery: we have reverted the patch causing that bug21:13
mesteryOK, lets move on.21:13
mesterysalv-orlando: Link by chance?21:13
mesterysalv-orlando: thanks!21:14
mesteryOK, now moving on.21:14
mestery#topic Nova Parity21:14
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mesterymarkmcclain: Hi!21:14
markmcclainI've updated with links to the specs21:14
markmcclainsalv-orlando and I are leading the charge on reviewing the db healing ones21:15
mesteryOK, cool!21:15
markmcclainhealing is a must for us to work on adding grenade testing back21:15
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mesteryThanks markmcclain. I also encourage folks to review obondarev's nova spec for hte migration API.21:16
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salv-orlandosure will do.21:16
armaxmestery: it’s on my todo list21:16
markmcclainmestery: ++21:16
mesteryarmax salv-orlando markmcclain: Great!21:17
* salv-orlando said the man who has a 5-minute memory span21:17
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mestery#topic Tempest21:17
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mesterymlavalle: Hi there!21:18
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mlavalleI want to see if we want to review the bugs in the full neutron job21:18
mlavallefrom those who have been working on that21:18
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mesterymlavalle: Yes, but lets give some background: QA is no longer reviewing neutron tests until we get the full job running.21:19
mesterymlavalle: Thus the urgency on that front I think.21:19
salv-orlandoso why don’t I get some attention here:
* mestery looks21:19
mlavallemestery: yeah, that's the urgency21:19
salv-orlandothe job has been deemed as rather stable - sdague’s words ;)21:19
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mesterysalv-orlando: I believe the failure rate was deemed too high during last weeks QA meeting, right mlavalle?21:19
salv-orlandoand I think that we better enable it and deal with the inevitable raise in failure rate21:20
salv-orlandothan wait forever21:20
mesterysalv-orlando: +1 to that though21:20
sdaguealso, the trusty switch over this week should help, right?21:20
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mesterysdague: +121:20
sdagueiirc new openvswitch was more resilient21:20
mesterysdague: It's light years ahead to be honest21:20
salv-orlandomestery: that high failure rate might have been “tainted” by the failures we have been plagued with for that timing issue which caused images to not boot right.21:20
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mesteryI think we should push to get this merged then.21:21
mesterysdague: ^^^21:21
mesterysdague: What else do you need from us here? We're ready to triage and fix issues once it merges.21:21
salv-orlandomestery, sdague: if we get to the end of juno-2 without doing that, we’ll just end up not doing it21:21
salv-orlandoas people will be afraid of enabling a potentially gate breaking job in juno-321:21
mesteryI'm with you salv-orlando on this front.21:21
sdaguemestery: I think that's about it. Why don't we wait for trusty flip, which should be in the next couple of days21:21
sdaguethen do it21:21
mesterysdague: Agreed. I'll touch base with you later this week.21:22
mesterysalv-orlando: Sound good?21:22
salv-orlandosdague, cool il ping you back on thurs morning21:22
sdaguesalv-orlando: sounds great21:22
mlavallesdague: and I will raaisee the point also during the tempest meeting on Thursday21:22
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* mestery loves it when a plan comes together.21:22
mesterymlavalle: Anything else on the agenda for Tempest today?21:23
mlavallemestery: just to report to the team we made good progress with api tests for new LBaaS last week21:23
mesterymlavalle: Awesome!21:23
mlavalleI should push somehting for review later this week21:23
mlavalleas wip21:23
mlavalleother than that, I will be following up with the full neutron job21:24
mlavalleand that's it from me this week21:24
afazekasIs anyone has any idea why the full neutron  job fails more than the smoke ?21:24
salv-orlandoafazekas: There are a few independent issues. some are because a few tests are not well designed, some because there are a few bugs in neutron which need to be polished.21:25
salv-orlandonothing serious imho though. But bear in mind that the last time I did this analysis it was about 6 weeks ago.21:26
afazekasbug numbers ?21:26
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salv-orlandoafazekas: gimme a few minutes, in the meanwhile you guys can go on with the meeting21:27
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mesterysalv-orlando: Thanks!21:27
mestery#topic L321:27
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mesterycarl_baldwin: Hi and welcome back!21:27
carl_baldwinmestery: hi21:27
carl_baldwinThe DVR patches have seen a lot of updates.21:27
carl_baldwinOne of them is nearly ready and we’ve discussed plans to get the others in to shape splitting efforts between me and Armando as the core reviewers.21:28
mesterycarl_baldwin: Perfect, thanks!21:28
carl_baldwinI’m also working on having all the patches available together for testing by others in devstack.21:29
salv-orlandoafazekas: here’s the list (needs update though - some bugs might have been already fixed):
markmcclaincarl_baldwin: awesome21:29
carl_baldwinI think we could also pull together a demo soon.21:29
mesterycarl_baldwin: That would be most excellent! Are the patches already linked in gerrit?21:29
carl_baldwinYes, they are all on the same topic.21:29
armaxcarl_baldwin: I’ll send a note when the demo is ready21:29
mesterycarl_baldwin: Cool!21:29
armaxmestery: I am going to work on one of the patches so that it can be more digestibile21:30
mesteryarmax: Awesome!21:30
sc68calYeah that was one of my concerns, that one patch is like 2K lines21:30
armaxmestery: so expect a lot more traffic this week :)21:30
carl_baldwinmestery: I’ll be working on another in a similar fashion.21:30
armaxsc68cal: indeed21:30
sc68calbut I hate to be that guy that -1s and grumbles about big patches21:30
armaxsc68cal: I have a strategy21:30
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armaxstay tuned21:30
carl_baldwinLarge patches are a valid concern.21:30
mesterySounds like this is moving forward nicely carl_baldwin!21:30
markmcclainsc68cal: still not the biggest patch we have in the queue21:31
carl_baldwinOther subteam projects are making progress and status is on the wiki.21:31
mesterycarl_baldwin: Thanks for the updates here. Anything else to add?21:31
carl_baldwinmestery: that is all I have.  See you all at the meeting on Thursday.21:31
mesterycarl_baldwin: Thanks!21:31
mestery#topic Advanced Services21:32
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mesterySumitNaiksatam: Hi!21:32
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SumitNaiksatammestery: hi21:32
SumitNaiksatamso, as last week we have a few specs waiting for review/approval21:32
SumitNaiksatamthe most notable among them is the flavors spce put by enikanorov21:32
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markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: I'm going to post an alt proposal for flavors21:33
SumitNaiksatamthat it hit a bit of a road block last week, just as we were beginning to thin that we are getting consensus21:33
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markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: much simpler version that is implementable during J and still cross service21:33
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: any reason why the suggestions cannot be factored into the current proposal?21:33
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afazekassalv-orlando: which causes the most failure on the full jobs ?21:34
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SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: my concern is that we repeatedly reset the discussion21:34
mesteryafazekas salv-orlando: Can you guys pop over to #openstack-neutron since we're in the meeting here at the moment? Thanks!21:34
markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: I don't think the current prop is the proper direction upon further thinking21:34
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salv-orlandoafazekas - they’re pasted in order of failure rate. But I don’t want to give you obsolete numbers. Let me run again checks on logstash tonight and I’ll update you tomorrow morning in openstack-qa21:34
markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: additionally current prop does not solve original problem of operator control21:35
enikanorovmarkmcclain: i think it does21:35
afazekassalv-orlando: ok21:35
enikanorovlet's get togather and analyse how we can converge21:35
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain enikanorov mestery: can i propose that we use this week’s adv services meeting to arrive at a consensus on what we plan to implement in Juno?21:36
markmcclainenikanorov: sure we can chat offline21:36
enikanorovmarkmcclain: right21:36
SumitNaiksatamif we push this any further, i dont think it will make it into Juno21:36
mesterymarkmcclain enikanorov: IF there is a way to retrofit this into the existing BP, it may be easiest.21:36
markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: -1 have conflict with that timeslot this week21:36
nati_uenomarkmcclain: when we can get your proposal?21:37
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: what are your alternate suggestions?21:37
markmcclainhopefully this evening21:38
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enikanorovsounds good21:38
mesteryOK, lets try to resolve this sometime this week so we can move forward, flavors are important to a lot of sub-teams I believe.21:38
SumitNaiksatammestery: yes21:38
markmcclainmestery: very true21:38
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SumitNaiksatammestery: other than that we have the services’ insertion and traffic steering specs which have received some decent attention21:39
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markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: concerned about those as we have _lots_ of other work to land21:39
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SumitNaiksatammestery: so we would like to close on them, hopefully this week, so that these can be pursued in implementation for J221:39
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: i believe these have been scheduled for J221:40
mesterymarkmcclain SumitNaiksatam: We should understand if there are issues here as well and sort that out this week with the flavors stuff if possible.21:40
* mestery notes there is a seemingly endless supply of stuff to land this cycle. :)21:41
SumitNaiksatammestery: sure, these have been in discussion for a long time21:41
mesterySumitNaiksatam: Yes, agreed.21:41
SumitNaiksatammestery: so hopefully whoever feels strongly about these, can make it to the IRC meeting, and we can make progress21:41
markmcclainSumitNaiksatam: understand the length of time they've been discussed.. I just question if the team have bandwidth to land with quality21:41
salv-orlandomestery: meh we have enough history to know our limits on what we can land in a milestone. We should use them to decide what we can reasonably target.21:42
SumitNaiksatammarkmcclain: there are several people reviewing this21:42
salv-orlandoOtherwise we’ll end up generating frustation and disappointment21:42
markmcclainsalv-orlando: I agree… the potential load is still really high21:42
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SumitNaiksatammestery: thats pretty much it from me on this, thanks for the time21:43
mesteryThere is a lot on there, agreed, we're already behind according to that plan.21:43
mesteryBut, lets move on. Thanks SumitNaiksatam!21:43
mestery#topic IPv621:43
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mesterysc68cal: Hi there!21:43
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sc68calSo the two big items in my opinion are the spec for radvd and this small patch to complete ipv6 provider net slaac21:44
mesterysc68cal: Is there a spec for radvd yet?21:44
sc68cal#link provider net slaac bug21:44
sc68calmestery: yep - linking now21:44
mesterysc68cal: cool21:44
markmcclainsc68cal: awesome will add to review queue21:45
sc68calI believe xuhanp and shshang will be pivoting to do dhcpv6 stateful support in dnsmasq21:45
sc68calwill provide a link to the spec when it is published21:45
sc68calIf we can get some core reviewers on the provider net slaac patch we can close that bp from the j2 milestone21:46
mesterysc68cal: I'll review that one.21:46
sc68calput one in the proverbial win column :)21:47
sc68calthat's it for me today21:47
mesteryThanks sc68cal!21:47
mestery#topic ML221:47
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mesterySukhdev: Hi!21:47
Sukhdevmestery: Hi21:47
mesteryAnything on ML2 this week?21:47
SukhdevCouple of items -21:47
Sukhdevthe team has been reviewing specs - please see here
SukhdevFew of the patches are ready for blessing by Cores - so, will be pinging you guys21:48
mesterySukhdev: OK, sounds good.21:48
SukhdevAdditionally, work has been kicked off on the Modular L2 agent21:48
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Sukhdevdiscussion is on the ML - if one wants to participate21:49
Sukhdevmestery: that is it for now - unless some questions21:49
mesteryThanks Sukhdev.21:49
mestery#topic Group Based Policy21:49
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mesterySumitNaiksatam: Hi again!21:49
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SumitNaiksatammestery: hi, and thanks again21:49
SumitNaiksatamrkukura was able to land the mapping patches this past week21:50
SumitNaiksatamhe will be landing some more driver patches later this week21:50
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mesteryYes, and I see some good iterations on the first couple of patches as well, addressing the UT concerns marun had pointed out.21:50
SumitNaiksatamwe already have had a good review churn on the initial model patches21:50
SumitNaiksatammestery: those have all been addressed21:51
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SumitNaiksatamthanks to the reviewers, and hopefully this is ripe now for more reviewer interest21:51
SumitNaiksatamthe series starts here #link
nati_uenoI'll join reviewing21:52
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SumitNaiksatamnati_ueno: thanks21:52
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SumitNaiksatammestery: thats it from us on GP21:53
mesteryOK, thanks SumitNaiksatam!21:53
mesteryI encourage people to review the fresh GBP patches as well.21:53
mestery#topic Open Discussion21:53
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mesterymarkmcclain: We have a request for a python-neutronclient release here:21:53
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mesterymarkmcclain: Can we make htis happen anytime soon? Thoughts?21:53
mesterymarkmcclain: cool!21:54
mesteryI'll reply on that thread on the ML then.21:54
oda-gI'd like cores to take a look at the blueprint (Enable to set DHCP port   attributes) I want core's suggestion to move forward.21:54
markmcclainI'll work offline to show you how21:54
mesterymarkmcclain: Perfect, thanks!21:54
mesteryoda-g: I'll have a look at that BP.21:55
oda-gmestery: thanks21:55
carl_baldwinoda-g: I also have some comments to make on that BP.21:55
mesteryOK, if that's it, we'll see you all on the ML and IRC!21:56
mesteryAnd of course, back here next week.21:56
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ihrachyshkaouch, missed the last section. whatever. markmcclain: mestery: can I ask you to check a blueprint (in LP only atm): ?21:57
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mesteryihrachyshka: Absolutely! Will take a peek.21:57
mesteryihrachyshka: Sorry, I thought I saw you leave, I know it's late for you. :)21:58
ihrachyshkathere's not much text, just a brief description of an idea, I'd like to get some initial check on sanity before proceeding with a spec21:58
mesteryihrachyshka: cool, will do!21:58
markmcclainihrachyshka: I've added my queue21:59
ihrachyshkathanks guys21:59
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banixPlease have a look at if you get a chance. Thanks.22:00
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