| cyeoh | #startmeeting nova api | 00:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Sep 26 00:00:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cyeoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 00:00 |
| cyeoh | Hi - anyone around for the nova api meeting? | 00:01 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 00:01 |
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| cyeoh | heh is it just us today? | 00:02 |
| cyeoh | gmann: are you around? | 00:02 |
| alex_xu | emm.... | 00:02 |
| gmann | hi | 00:02 |
| cyeoh | hey do we have enough people for a meeting? :-) | 00:03 |
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| cyeoh | so I guess just a couple of things I had on my mind | 00:03 |
| alex_xu | >=2 is enough :) | 00:03 |
| oomichi | hi | 00:04 |
| cyeoh | #topic v21 on v3 | 00:04 |
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| cyeoh | oomichi: hi :-) | 00:04 |
| cyeoh | ooh 4 people now :-) | 00:04 |
| alex_xu | cool, enough now | 00:04 |
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| cyeoh | so I went through and reviewed all the v2-on-v3-api patches yesterday. I think Kilo will be open next week | 00:04 |
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| cyeoh | would be nice to merge them quickly | 00:04 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: agree, I also will review them | 00:05 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: but we need to wait for kilo spec again before that? | 00:05 |
| cyeoh | I suspect there are a few bug patches for v2.1 which I probably missed. I was wondering if it would be possible for people to tag even the bug fixes with v2-on-v3-api | 00:05 |
| cyeoh | which will make them easier to find | 00:05 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: I'm hoping not. | 00:06 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: I also hope that :) | 00:06 |
| cyeoh | I guess we can just resubmit the last one but otherwise just try to merge. After all, nothing has changed. I'll ping mikal and john and ask | 00:06 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: that's great! | 00:07 |
| cyeoh | there's going to be a bit of a lull in patches while people wait for the nova-specs to be approved so it would be good to take advantage of that spare review bandwidth | 00:07 |
| gmann | cyeoh: i have some bug patches, I will tag BP on those. | 00:07 |
| cyeoh | gmann: thx! | 00:07 |
| cyeoh | #topic microversions | 00:08 |
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| cyeoh | So good discussion on the mailing list. I guess we should keep the discussion going on there | 00:08 |
| cyeoh | I'll start a thread about the client header format and what versions mean so we can talk about that separately | 00:09 |
| cyeoh | did anyone have anything wanted to talk about microversions? | 00:09 |
| oomichi | so I'd like to know microversions are common thing for other area? | 00:10 |
| oomichi | or that is Nova specific? | 00:10 |
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| cyeoh | oomichi: not in openstack - they've been going for big v2->v3 like upgrades | 00:10 |
| alex_xu | note: that blog post can't comment, if you have any comment, you can add at github | 00:10 |
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| cyeoh | but then their APIs are quite small | 00:10 |
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| oomichi | cyeoh: I see, thanks :) | 00:11 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: its not specification called microversions, but client version headers are used in some non-openstack API | 00:11 |
| cyeoh | so its not just something we're making up ;-) | 00:12 |
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| cyeoh | #topic open discussion | 00:12 |
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| cyeoh | I guess most people have seen the thread about the cross project api work | 00:13 |
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| cyeoh | looks like something might actually happen | 00:13 |
| cyeoh | as I mentioned on the thread I'd encourage people to go to the wiki and add/comment | 00:13 |
| oomichi | yeah, nice discussing now | 00:13 |
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| cyeoh | doesn't matter at this stage if we don't have conensus over what is in there, more just gathering what we could have in there | 00:14 |
| gmann | how cross project API guidelines will be concluded/approved? any spec etc and then import those on wiki or some other process? | 00:14 |
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| oomichi | how about using gerrit review process instead of wiki? | 00:14 |
| cyeoh | gmann: for the moment we'll just get together potential items I think | 00:14 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: I think the problem with gerrit at the moment is it makes it harder for people to add just an item or two | 00:14 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: especially for users | 00:14 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: but eventually once we have a decent draft I agree gerrit would be good so we can vote | 00:15 |
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| oomichi | cyeoh: on nova-specs process, users also could join it. | 00:15 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: yea, but it doesn't really belong in nova-specs since its cross project | 00:15 |
| bknudson1 | I think we will wind up having microversions in other apis | 00:16 |
| cyeoh | I think there is an openstack/governance repo though | 00:16 |
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| bknudson1 | since the major version changes have been a disaster | 00:16 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: that seems nice process. draft: wiki -> review: gerrit | 00:16 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yea we might be the guniea pigs :-) | 00:16 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: anyway I think we'd all appreciate input from other projects into the design of microversions | 00:16 |
| bknudson1 | where's the design? | 00:17 |
| bknudson1 | I assume it's just using Accept header. | 00:17 |
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| cyeoh | so there is a nova spec and alex_xu also has a blog post (though I don't agree with all of it) that covers the implementation side | 00:17 |
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| bknudson1 | approved spec? | 00:18 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: no, we didn't get consensus around it | 00:18 |
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| bknudson1 | really? seems pretty obvious | 00:18 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101648/ | 00:19 |
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| alex_xu | cyeoh, is this one? | 00:19 |
| bknudson1 | abandoned :( | 00:19 |
| cyeoh | alex_xu: yes, thanks! | 00:19 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yea we managed to get v2.1 approved so we concentrated on that first | 00:19 |
| oomichi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96139/11/specs/juno/api-microversions.rst | 00:20 |
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| alex_xu | yea, two versions | 00:20 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: yep, that is another. | 00:20 |
| cyeoh | I don't think there is any real disagreement on the client header side | 00:21 |
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| cyeoh | but we do need to nail down what the version numbers are (eg for X.Y.Z what the X and Y and Z mean) | 00:21 |
| cyeoh | and I think we have a rough consensus over experimental and vendor tags | 00:22 |
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| cyeoh | most of the remaining bit to resolve is the implementation side | 00:22 |
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| cyeoh | around how much code we copy and paste when we support multiple versions | 00:22 |
| bknudson1 | I would expect that the Accept header would be used and qvalue support | 00:22 |
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| bknudson1 | with qvalue support the client could say it support version=1.1 and version=1.2 and that it prefers 1.2 | 00:23 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: I can't remember the details at the moment but there was some issue with qvalue support, but perhaps I could look at it again | 00:23 |
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| bknudson1 | it might not work with the specific header format. | 00:24 |
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| oomichi | bknudson1: that means using the latest version as possible between server and client ? | 00:24 |
| cyeoh | I think we were looking at something like: X-OS-Compute-Version: 2.114, experimental, vnd:rax | 00:25 |
| bknudson1 | right, is that the min version supported or the max version? | 00:25 |
| bknudson1 | the version that the client supports | 00:25 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: we were thinking of requesting a specific version rather than a range | 00:25 |
| oomichi | bknudson1: that would be a nice idea. | 00:26 |
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| cyeoh | but a range would be fine as well | 00:26 |
| cyeoh | presumably can also query from the server beforehand what version range is supported | 00:26 |
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| alex_xu | yes, the server will return the min version and max version | 00:27 |
| cyeoh | the experimental flag would turn on all experimental features, | 00:27 |
| cyeoh | and the vnd: flag enables out of tree features | 00:27 |
| bknudson1 | typically with the Accept header the server will respond with a Content-Type with the actual match... | 00:27 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: yep | 00:28 |
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| bknudson1 | but if you're only supporting the specific version then I guess there's no need for it. | 00:28 |
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| cyeoh | we'll be supporting a large range of versions for quite a while. | 00:29 |
| alex_xu | so the different is the server choice version for client or the client choice version for server? | 00:29 |
| oomichi | for working on many environments, the range is nice. | 00:29 |
| bknudson1 | it's the whole compute API and not the specific resource? | 00:29 |
| cyeoh | everything from v2.1 (initial which is equivalent to v2) up to current and will have to bump for any api change | 00:29 |
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| cyeoh | the need to support many versions is one of the reasons we need to keep code duplication down to a minimum. | 00:30 |
| cyeoh | feedback we're getting is that we can't deprecate the v2 api for a number of years | 00:30 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yes, the microversion number refers to the API as a whole | 00:31 |
| bknudson1 | do you have the client changes described in the design? | 00:31 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: do you mean what version has what api changes? | 00:31 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: or just what header the client has to send | 00:32 |
| bknudson1 | y, how's the client going to work? | 00:32 |
| bknudson1 | is the novaclient going to support a single version? | 00:32 |
| cyeoh | So the client will be able to send this X-Compute-Version header (if it doesn't it just gets v2) | 00:32 |
| cyeoh | so I think it would be crazy for novaclient to try to support all versions | 00:33 |
| cyeoh | so I'm going to suggest supporting v2 and then the latest version of microversions | 00:33 |
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| bknudson1 | so the server gets a request with a higher version than it supports... | 00:33 |
| bknudson1 | is the request rejected? | 00:33 |
| cyeoh | yup | 00:33 |
| cyeoh | but older is fine | 00:34 |
| bknudson1 | unless it's too old. | 00:34 |
| cyeoh | well for us there's nothing too old :-) | 00:34 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: yeah, all supports are crazy, but maybe novaclient needs to support the latest and oldest(v2.0 compatible). | 00:34 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: no header just means it acts as V2 | 00:34 |
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| cyeoh | oomichi: yep I agree | 00:35 |
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| bknudson1 | so what version would you expect the latest client to send on a request? | 00:35 |
| alex_xu | cyeoh, oomichi emm...why we need support oldest? | 00:35 |
| oomichi | alex_xu: because we cannot drop v2.0 environments in real world. | 00:36 |
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| bknudson1 | seems like you'd have the client send the latest version, and then if the server didn't support it, it would respond with the latest that it supports. | 00:36 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: whatever version it has been updated to support | 00:36 |
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| bknudson1 | as long as the server tells the client what version it was then it can accept it or ignore it. | 00:37 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yes if we can have novaclient support multiple versions (and novaclient isn't exactly great code) | 00:37 |
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| cyeoh | perhaps we could have novaclient support some "key" versions. (say nova releases) | 00:38 |
| cyeoh | that may be sufficient to make people happy | 00:39 |
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| cyeoh | but we'd have to do a reasonable amount of refactoring of novaclient code | 00:39 |
| oomichi | oh, I can see very long load for it.. | 00:39 |
| bknudson1 | with microversioning are you going to allow backwards-incompatible changes? | 00:39 |
| cyeoh | initially I think we'd just do oldest/newest | 00:39 |
| alex_xu | oomichi, ok, thanks | 00:40 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yes definitely - its the major reason for doing microversions | 00:40 |
| bknudson1 | using semver, so a major bump for backwards-incompatible? | 00:40 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yes | 00:41 |
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| cyeoh | and I expect that initially we'll have quite a few major version bumps | 00:41 |
| cyeoh | we for example want to introduce the tasks api which will break lots of stuff and server diagnostics is another example of an interface we want to completely change | 00:42 |
| bknudson1 | the spec has an example: @api.version(introduced="2.0", deprecated="2.115", removed="2.300") | 00:42 |
| bknudson1 | but since removal of an api would be backwards-incompat | 00:42 |
| bknudson1 | that would be @api.version(introduced="2.0", deprecated="2.115", removed="3.0") | 00:42 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: i agree | 00:43 |
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| cyeoh | we hadn't at that point agreed on what the version numbers meant | 00:43 |
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| cyeoh | I don't think we should be shy about bumping major version numbers in the microversion model though | 00:43 |
| eliqiao | hi all , i am late :( | 00:44 |
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| cyeoh | just need to get users used to the idea that a major version bump in a microversion model does not mean that the whole world changes for them | 00:44 |
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| cyeoh | that it would most likely just be one interface with backwards incompatible changes (which they may not care about at all) | 00:44 |
| cyeoh | eliqiao: hi! | 00:44 |
| bknudson1 | this is where it might be useful to have a version on every resource | 00:45 |
| bknudson1 | rather than on the whole api | 00:45 |
| oomichi | cyeoh: but we need to avoid backwards incompatible changes as possible, I don't want to see same kind of change which we fixed them before. | 00:45 |
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| bknudson1 | if you're going to change 1 api, up the major number ... you're going to wind up being at a pretty high major version # | 00:46 |
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| bknudson1 | but then I'm not sure how the server would advertise its version support for every resource | 00:46 |
| bknudson1 | unless using JSON Home, since it's got metadata for every resource. | 00:46 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yea we did talk about versioning individual resources but some people really want to avoid the very large number of different combinations you can get when that happens (eg we have 70 plugins all individually versioned changing at different rates) | 00:47 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: so I don't think we should be concerned about a really high major version | 00:47 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: i don't think it matters, its just a number...... | 00:47 |
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| oomichi | bknudson1: yeah, json-home is nice for it. | 00:47 |
| bknudson1 | I'm still concerned about how the client is going to work... it would make sense for it to say it supports version 1 or version 2. | 00:48 |
| cyeoh | oomichi: yes, we need to be careful about backwards incompatible changes but if we need to do it I think its ok (we just need to review any backwards incompatible change very carefully) | 00:48 |
| bknudson1 | but then going to saying it supports multiple major versions gets a little crazy | 00:48 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: only if you assume that a major version bump means lots of changes to the api | 00:49 |
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| oomichi | bknudson1: re: json-home: can we get metadata on the same URLs just by specifying json-home on accept header? | 00:49 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: so say one major version is a result of the server diagnostics api changing but the app never uses it | 00:49 |
| bknudson1 | the client doesn't know for a major version bump what changed and what didn't | 00:49 |
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| cyeoh | bknudson1: the client supports both major versions without any code changes | 00:49 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: so we will have to document very carefully what each version of the API supports | 00:50 |
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| bknudson1 | oomichi: I think that the json-home document is supposed to describe some whole part of the api... that's how keystone is using it anyways. | 00:50 |
| eliqiao | I think one of the import thing is we should simple the client usage. | 00:51 |
| cyeoh | so discoverability can address some issues with lots of versions but it doesn't address changes in semantics which are also api changes | 00:51 |
| bknudson1 | cyeoh: as long as the client has a fallback (like to v2) then that should be ok. | 00:51 |
| oomichi | bknudson1: thanks, I will check keystone code later :) | 00:51 |
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| bknudson1 | oomichi: curl -H "Accept: application/json-home" http://localhost:5000 | python -m json.tool | 00:52 |
| bknudson1 | curl -H "Accept: application/json-home" http://localhost:5000/v3 | python -m json.tool | 00:52 |
| bknudson1 | also works | 00:52 |
| oomichi | bknudson1: cool, will do it later:) | 00:53 |
| bknudson1 | in keystone we don't have any metadata yet, just the path. | 00:53 |
| cyeoh | yea so we need to have a think about how to support json-home with multiple versions | 00:53 |
| bknudson1 | your json-home document could be generated based on the version requested. | 00:53 |
| bknudson1 | use the same header to say what version of json-home you want | 00:54 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yep we'll definitely need to generate them on the fly | 00:54 |
| bknudson1 | that could actually be pretty neat | 00:54 |
| cyeoh | so we have 5 mins left. Just wanted to check if anyone had anything else they wanted to bring up otherwise can continue with this... | 00:54 |
| eliqiao | bknudson1:will json-home bring some more code changes to the infrasture? | 00:55 |
| bknudson1 | eliqiao: looking at the spec doc, it looks interesting because you've got @api.version(introduced="2.300") | 00:56 |
| bknudson1 | so you know what the APIs are... | 00:56 |
| bknudson1 | for each API there'll be a resource, so then you'd need to know what the path is to the API | 00:56 |
| oomichi | bknudson1: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122590/ as this meeting, we will keep using v2.1 endpoint without adding more version endpoints. | 00:56 |
| bknudson1 | which it doesn't know at that point. | 00:56 |
| eliqiao | bknudson1:cool, thx. | 00:57 |
| bknudson1 | oomichi: ok, I can stop complaining then. | 00:57 |
| oomichi | bknudson1: thanks ;) | 00:57 |
| cyeoh | eventually we'll get to the point of not having versioned endpoints.... | 00:57 |
| bknudson1 | as long as you've got a better plan like microversioning where you're not going to add more! | 00:58 |
| cyeoh | yep and we'll be able to drop the version as part of the url as well | 00:58 |
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| cyeoh | (when we finally deprecate v2 anyway) | 00:58 |
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| oomichi | cyeoh: yeah, that is good thing. | 00:58 |
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| cyeoh | ok I think we're pretty much out of time | 00:59 |
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| cyeoh | thank you everyone for attending. See ya next week. | 00:59 |
| bknudson1 | here's some keystone code for registering a resource: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/identity/routers.py#n41 | 01:00 |
| alex_xu | thanks all, great meeting | 01:00 |
| gmann | Thanks all. Good discussion :) | 01:00 |
| eliqiao | thank you! | 01:00 |
| cyeoh | bknudson1: yep we do something very similar, although with the plugin infrastructure its more abstractly definied | 01:00 |
| cyeoh | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Sep 26 01:01:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2014/nova_api.2014-09-26-00.00.html | 01:01 |
| oomichi | bknudson1: nice info! | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2014/nova_api.2014-09-26-00.00.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2014/nova_api.2014-09-26-00.00.log.html | 01:01 |
| oomichi | thanks all | 01:01 |
| alex_xu | bknudson1, thanks for info, good for reading keystone code | 01:01 |
| bknudson1 | alex_xu: I know it's far from ideal code, so complaints are fine... it needs more refactoring | 01:02 |
| bknudson1 | alex_xu: I don't know if you're using routes like keystone is. | 01:02 |
| alex_xu | bknudson1, yes, we are using routes similar | 01:03 |
| bknudson1 | for mapping path + method to the class and method | 01:03 |
| bknudson1 | because the difficulty is with json-home you've got to have the path to the resource, not just the final method name. | 01:04 |
| alex_xu | bknudson1, maybe just loading extension different at here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/__init__.py#L252 | 01:04 |
| bknudson1 | this code is fancy. | 01:05 |
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| VINOD_ | Hi schwicke...Sajeesh will not be available for meeting today | 16:00 |
| schwicke | just saw his mail | 16:00 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:00 |
| schwicke | #startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Sep 26 16:01:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy' | 16:01 |
| schwicke | so let's go | 16:01 |
| schwicke | First of all: I'm sorry that I apparently mis-named the meeting last week:( | 16:01 |
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| schwicke | somehow an additional _ ended up at the end of the meeting name | 16:02 |
| schwicke | #topic: test installation on the VM | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": test installation on the VM (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)" | 16:03 | |
| VINOD_ | The quota code has been successfully put up in the VM provided by Raildo with his Hierarchical Multitenancy keystone code | 16:03 |
| schwicke | Sajeesh sent me an e-mail as he cannot connect today | 16:03 |
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| VINOD_ | and also preliminary tests were successful. | 16:04 |
| schwicke | "Regarding the integration of nova and keystone,it is successful.Both are communicating.I will do a detailed testing in the weekend,and will send you the report." | 16:04 |
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| VINOD_ | I and sajeesh will check with more complex example of project hierarchy | 16:04 |
| schwicke | great! | 16:04 |
| schwicke | I also went through some user stories with Nirupma to be tested | 16:05 |
| VINOD_ | The only change we could see is that, i think Raildo has changed the parent project id attribute in the keystone as "parent_id" (earlier it was parent_project_id) | 16:05 |
| schwicke | ok | 16:05 |
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| schwicke | Hi, Nirupma | 16:06 |
| VINOD_ | Also, the nova specs is still not opened for Kilo | 16:06 |
| nirupma | hello | 16:06 |
| VINOD_ | so as agreed, the quota blueprint will be uploaded to Kilo as soon as it opens | 16:06 |
| schwicke | nirupma: did you manage to go through some user stories as we discussed ? | 16:06 |
| schwicke | Vinod: I'll come back to that in a moment | 16:07 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: o | 16:07 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: ok | 16:07 |
| nirupma | the dashboard has been changed | 16:07 |
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| schwicke | ok | 16:07 |
| nirupma | i am not able to login to the m/c | 16:07 |
| schwicke | haven't check in the last 2 days. | 16:07 |
| nirupma | it now has an extra feild for domain name | 16:07 |
| nirupma | which is compulsary | 16:07 |
| VINOD_ | nirupma: i didn't get you..could you please tell me about the problem | 16:08 |
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| nirupma | thiago's m/c's dashboard has changed | 16:09 |
| nirupma | earlier it was just user name and password | 16:09 |
| VINOD_ | nirupma: ok..i got you..i had check it now | 16:09 |
| nirupma | now it has an added field for domain name which is compulsary | 16:09 |
| schwicke | ok | 16:10 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:10 |
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| nirupma | i assume that he is testing some new code | 16:10 |
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| schwicke | Thiago does not seem to be connected, is he ? | 16:11 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: I also think that he is not connected (and neither raildo) | 16:12 |
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| schwicke | Nirumpa: contact him by e-mail | 16:13 |
| nirupma | ok | 16:13 |
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| nirupma | mailing him now | 16:13 |
| schwicke | #action: Nirupma will ask Thiago about the changed horizon interface | 16:13 |
| schwicke | #topic Horizon dashboard feedback | 16:13 |
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| schwicke | I had sent a bit of feedback for the GUI during the week. | 16:14 |
| schwicke | was hoping we could discuss today. | 16:14 |
| schwicke | I was thinking of ways on how to implement the delegation stuff | 16:14 |
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| schwicke | I think that part is easy: when editing a project there could be another tab which defines the list of admin users | 16:15 |
| schwicke | in the same way as there is now a tab to define the users | 16:15 |
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| schwicke | The more tricky bit is setting quota | 16:15 |
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| schwicke | Not sure how this works. If you login to horizon, and you are member of several projects, I suspect you first only get an unscoped token. Is that assumption correct ? | 16:16 |
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| schwicke | The tricky bit is that when you select a project you authenticate to that. | 16:17 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: I am not sure on this..but...i also think the same way | 16:17 |
| schwicke | At that point we'd need dialog showing the children you own along with their quotas | 16:18 |
| schwicke | thiagop: is that assumption correct ? | 16:18 |
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| VINOD_ | probably, it can first the quota for that project in detail (like available, allocated etc) | 16:19 |
| VINOD_ | and by expanding it, then it can show the quota details of its child projects | 16:19 |
| schwicke | which requires some calls to the nova api | 16:19 |
| schwicke | we should check that offline with Thiago | 16:20 |
| VINOD_ | yes, nova for quota and keystone for child projects list | 16:20 |
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| VINOD_ | For some reason (unknown), the login to the VM has also been stopped | 16:21 |
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| schwicke | you mean via ssh ? | 16:22 |
| VINOD_ | yes | 16:22 |
| VINOD_ | A wild guess, may be to solve "shellshock bash" bug | 16:23 |
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| schwicke | I was thinking the same way | 16:23 |
| VINOD_ | yesterday it was working...now its not allowing | 16:23 |
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| schwicke | we should come back to the clients | 16:24 |
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| schwicke | Sajeesh says, not much has been done yet with python-openstackclient | 16:24 |
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| VINOD_ | yes | 16:24 |
| schwicke | #topic nova client support | 16:24 |
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| VINOD_ | he believes that the python-openstackclient may not require changes with respect to the quota code...as the API's will remain same | 16:24 |
| schwicke | he mentions that he has some doubts | 16:24 |
| VINOD_ | but yet to be checked to be more sure | 16:25 |
| schwicke | that's good news | 16:25 |
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| schwicke | did you manage to test python-novalclient on the VM with the quota code ? | 16:25 |
| VINOD_ | not yet... | 16:25 |
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| VINOD_ | yesterday, i could complete the integration and tested few commands.. | 16:26 |
| schwicke | #action Vinod or Sajeesh should test nova clients with quota code | 16:26 |
| schwicke | ok, that's a very good start | 16:26 |
| VINOD_ | i thought of testing it today...but i could see now that the login to the VM is not working | 16:26 |
| VINOD_ | i mean testing the command with more complex examples today.. | 16:27 |
| schwicke | ok | 16:27 |
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| schwicke | I just sent a mail to Thiago about the login issues | 16:28 |
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| schwicke | not much we can do now. Let's wait for them | 16:28 |
| schwicke | Let' | 16:28 |
| VINOD_ | +1 | 16:28 |
| schwicke | Let's move on | 16:28 |
| schwicke | #topic KILO | 16:29 |
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| schwicke | first thing to note is that the keystone code will only be in KILO as well | 16:29 |
| schwicke | as I understand it | 16:29 |
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| morganfainberg | schwicke, correct | 16:29 |
| schwicke | hmm ... too bad | 16:30 |
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| schwicke | for the submissions for nova: something seems to be happening | 16:30 |
| schwicke | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/kilo | 16:31 |
| schwicke | there is a link to register a new blueprint | 16:31 |
| schwicke | I'd be able to submit a blue print it seems | 16:32 |
| schwicke | vinod: can you check ? | 16:33 |
| VINOD_ | yes, i am checking...but it is just with launchpad | 16:33 |
| schwicke | and I see there are already 3 | 16:33 |
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| VINOD_ | In juno i cam to know that, in addition to launch pad, the blueprint has to be submitted to gerrit as well..to nova-specs | 16:33 |
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| schwicke | Please register it in launch pad already | 16:34 |
| VINOD_ | may be launch pad is open to submit for blueprint in kilo, but yet to open for nova-specs...it seems vishy is online.. | 16:35 |
| VINOD_ | vishy: can you comment on this? | 16:35 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: I will dol the blueprint registration for quota code in launchpad | 16:35 |
| schwicke | great! | 16:35 |
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| schwicke | #action Vinod will register the hierarchical projects nova parts in launchpad | 16:36 |
| VINOD_ | I think vishy is busy | 16:36 |
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| schwicke | I also see raildo online but he's apparently busy as well | 16:36 |
| schwicke | Thiago as well | 16:37 |
| VINOD_ | yes | 16:37 |
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| schwicke | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/kilo | 16:38 |
| schwicke | same thing it seems | 16:38 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:38 |
| schwicke | seems that for keystone nothing has been submitted so far | 16:39 |
| VINOD_ | the keystone-specs link of keystone for Kilo is open.. | 16:39 |
| VINOD_ | #link https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/tree/master/specs | 16:39 |
| VINOD_ | so i guess keystone is already allowing the blueprints through launchpad as well as through keystone-specs | 16:40 |
| morganfainberg | VINOD_, those were re-targeted specs mostly | 16:40 |
| VINOD_ | morganfainberg: ok | 16:40 |
| morganfainberg | VINOD_, ones we knew were falling to kilo | 16:40 |
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| morganfainberg | VINOD_, feel free to submit a spec to kilo though | 16:40 |
| morganfainberg | we may not approve it till we get RC1 juno cut though. | 16:40 |
| morganfainberg | but no harm in proposing it | 16:40 |
| morganfainberg | even if it's just retargeting the current spec to kilo | 16:41 |
| VINOD_ | morganfainberg: We have the blueprint for nova...as we are doing the nova quota stuff. | 16:41 |
| morganfainberg | for keystone that is. | 16:41 |
| VINOD_ | morganfainberg: Thanks | 16:41 |
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| schwicke | thanks for the info! | 16:42 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: So, i guess we need to wait a little bit for blueprint upload to nova-specs...but any way i will do it on launchpad | 16:42 |
| schwicke | yes, let's keep an eye on it when it opens | 16:42 |
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| VINOD_ | ok | 16:43 |
| schwicke | anything else we need to discuss today ? | 16:43 |
| schwicke | #topic AOB | 16:43 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: Any thing on the topics for summit? | 16:44 |
| VINOD_ | otherwise nothing more from my side | 16:44 |
| schwicke | nothing special from my side. | 16:44 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:44 |
| schwicke | Nirupma is preparing herself | 16:44 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:44 |
| schwicke | as she'll represent us | 16:44 |
| schwicke | a pity I can't go as well :'( | 16:45 |
| VINOD_ | Next week, both Sajeesh and myself will not be available for the meeting...as its a long weekend holiday here...and we are on holiday | 16:45 |
| nirupma | i've prepared a tentative list of lectures that might be interesting. I'll mail it by tonight. | 16:45 |
| VINOD_ | but before that we will complete the testing and send you the report | 16:45 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:45 |
| nirupma | We can refine it further later | 16:45 |
| VINOD_ | nirupma: ok | 16:45 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: Is bemiro going for the summit? | 16:46 |
| schwicke | I think so | 16:46 |
| VINOD_ | great!! | 16:47 |
| schwicke | Tim will be definitely there as well, and some other people from the cloud operations team. | 16:47 |
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| schwicke | for the summit details we can also discuss on Wednesday in our phone meeting. | 16:48 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:48 |
| schwicke | so for today we can close early I think :) | 16:48 |
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| schwicke | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Sep 26 16:48:30 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-09-26-16.01.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-09-26-16.01.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-09-26-16.01.log.html | 16:48 |
| schwicke | have a nice week end! | 16:48 |
| VINOD_ | bye all..have a nice weekend!!!! | 16:48 |
| schwicke | bye ! | 16:48 |
| nirupma | bye | 16:48 |
| nirupma | enjoy your weekend!!! | 16:48 |
| schwicke | thank you for joining | 16:48 |
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| VINOD_ | bye all | 16:49 |
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