Friday, 2014-10-17

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jaypipeso/00:01
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jaypipesevening, chris00:01
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cyeoh#startmeeting nova api00:01
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eliqiaohi00:01
cyeohjaypipes: sorry started it with the wrong name :-)00:01
jaypipescyeoh: good evening :)00:01
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jaypipesno probs00:01
alex_xuhi, good evening and morning00:01
cyeohmorning! Who else is on?00:01
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cyeohoomchi mentioned he'd be on a plane today so won't be able to make it00:02
cyeohok, lets get started00:02
cyeoh#topic v2.1 on v300:02
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eliqiaoyeah, seems he went to German ?00:03
cyeohSo the patches seem to be merging in ok. Does anyone have any issues with what is currently in review?00:03
cyeoheliqiao: yea I think he went to LinuxCon00:03
eliqiaonot yet, I have some patches waiting for merging..00:03
alex_xujust think we should merge porting patch first, then begin to improvement the v2.1 api code. right?00:04
jaypipescyeoh: unfortunately, I've been swamped with resource tracker and scheduler specs, patches, and reviews. have not reviewed any 2.1 api patches :(00:04
eliqiaoagreed, it will be easy for review.00:04
cyeohalex_xu: yes, port first in one patch then cleanup patches00:04
cyeohjaypipes: np00:04
cyeohso in terms of further work - we do need to:00:05
cyeoh- verify nothing merged into the v2 version at the end of Juno that wasn't in v2.1 (and fix if it has happened)00:05
cyeoh- keep an eye out for anything that touches v2 from now on and ensure that they also fix v2.100:05
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cyeohplease -1 any patch that you see does that (sometimes the v2.1 code is different enough that a fix is not required though)00:06
alex_xuok00:06
eliqiaoagreed.00:06
cyeohAlso we need to finish all the json schmea for v2.1 - looks like probably gmann has put that on the worklist etherpad? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/v2_1_WorkList00:07
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alex_xuemm...I put that00:07
eliqiaoyeah, 1 update on that one.00:07
cyeohalex_xu: ah ok, cool - thanks for that!00:07
alex_xucyeoh, np :)00:07
cyeohthe other thing we need to look at when people have some time is tempest testing. That will get easier as more patches merge00:08
alex_xualso we have some unittest didn't share between v2 and v2.1 yet, those should be complex thing00:09
cyeohOnce we have v2.1 passing all the tempest tests that v2 do I think we go to the CD operators  and ask them if they could do some testing00:09
cyeohalex_xu: yes I'd like us to spend some time reducing that sort of technical debt - eg servers tests. Some of them just need a lot of cleaning too. Lots of duplicated code etc00:09
cyeohwhere you have spare time it'd be great to work on that sort of thing.00:10
alex_xucyeoh, yes, I will try to list those work on our workinglist first00:10
cyeohalex_xu: thanks!00:10
alex_xucyeoh, np00:10
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cyeoh#topic microversions00:11
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cyeohI unfortunately haven't had time to update the spec this week. Am hoping to get to it today.00:11
cyeohIt's blocking things like the tasks api so its very important for kilo00:11
cyeohI appreciate all the feedback we've had so far.00:12
cyeohjaypipes: if you get a chance would you mind having a look at it too?00:12
cyeoh#link https://review.openstack.org/12712700:12
cyeohits something I think other projects should consider too. Given as their APIs grow its going to be harder for them to do big v2->v3 like transitions00:13
jaypipescyeoh: yup, on it.00:14
cyeohjaypipes: thanks!00:14
cyeoh#topic api policy00:14
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jaypipesnp! again, sorry for being so busy :(00:14
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cyeohjaypipes: thats fine I totally understand :-)00:14
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cyeohalex_xu: so I've read through your first two api policy specs and they look pretty reasonable (I left some comments)00:15
alex_xucyeoh, thanks00:15
cyeohI haven't had a chance to look at third yet though00:15
jaypipeslinks please?00:15
cyeoh#link https://review.openstack.org/12716000:15
cyeoh#link https://review.openstack.org/12856000:16
alex_xuThat's for full view of policy improvement00:16
jaypipesthx'00:16
cyeoh#link https://review.openstack.org/12786300:16
alex_xuI mean 128560 is the full view00:16
cyeohalex_xu so I'm not really familiar with oslo policy.d stuff. Does it give the override like feature that John was looking for?00:16
alex_xujaypipes, cyeoh, if you want to review, I suggestion begin from 12856000:17
alex_xucyeoh, yes00:17
jaypipesalex_xu: will do! :)00:17
alex_xujaypipes, thanks00:17
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104157/00:17
alex_xuthis is the policy.d spec00:17
jaypipesone thing I wanted to note about "backwards incompatibility"...00:18
cyeohI think this one area where we need the feedback from operators and listen to them very carefully. As they're the ones going to feel the pain from the change00:18
* jaypipes should wait for open topic...00:18
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cyeohbackwards compatibility for api policy or more generally?00:18
alex_xucyeoh, yes, how we can get feedback from them?00:18
cyeohalex_xu: well John is a good rep from the rackspace side. Maybe can get Phil Day to comment too?00:19
cyeohalex_xu: maybe you could post about the specs to the operators list too - just make sure we're clean in the specs the impact on them00:19
alex_xucyeoh, ok, John already on the review list, I will try to mail Phil00:19
alex_xucyeoh, ok00:20
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cyeohjaypipes: we can talk about your thing now if you'd like00:20
cyeoh#topic backwards compatibility00:20
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jaypipescyeoh: ok, cool. so, something that I brought up on a patch from xu-huawei (can't find the patch right now...) was that I disagreed that changing failure HTTP response codes was "OK" to do.00:21
cyeohyep, so the APIGuidelines page has for a very long time said that we can change failure HTTP response codes00:22
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jaypipescyeoh: any change to HTTP response codes, IMO, is a backwards incompatible change, because it, by definition, will break clients expecting to translate a code into a message.00:22
cyeohand still consider backwards compatible (even though I agree its not)00:22
jaypipescyeoh: you mean the APICompatibility wiki page, right?00:22
jaypipesor rather APIChangeGuidelines :)00:23
cyeoh#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/APIChangeGuidelines00:23
jaypipesyeah :)00:23
eliqiaojaypipes: IMO, if we don't bring backwards incompatible change, then ,why we develop the new api?00:23
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alex_xuactually I prefer the jaypipes saying, maybe we should adjust the guideline in API working group00:23
cyeohyes, I think we should change it in the longer term, BUT00:23
jaypipesalex_xu: for sure, it's something the API WG should look into long term, yes00:23
cyeohwe have done so many of these in the last few cycles that I think we should just finish cleaning them up00:23
eliqiaoeven if the http response code is not correct, shouldn't we change it and make it much reasonable ?00:23
jaypipescyeoh: ok, that's fair I guess.00:24
cyeohwe can easily put the clamp down on it once we have microversions and can easily make backwards incompatible changes00:24
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alex_xueliqiao, that's the reason we bring up micro-version00:24
jaypipescyeoh: as you know, I'm more focused on future APIs :)00:24
cyeoheliqiao: so the difference between success and error codes is that lots of people check for success codes, much fewer developers look closely at error codes00:25
eliqiaookay , I get what jaypipes' mean. not change current api. do the 'right' things on new APIs, correct?00:25
cyeohanyway thats why I think they are treated differently00:25
jaypipescyeoh: well, microversions doesn't get us out of all compatibilty issues. but schema and payload discovery will.00:25
jaypipeseliqiao: yes.00:25
cyeohjaypipes: I think microversions does allow us to make any backwards incompatible change00:25
cyeohwe just bump the major version00:25
jaypipescyeoh: yes. but that's not micro versioning, now, is it? :)00:25
cyeohjaypipes: yea I think it is00:26
cyeohwe just don't try to do v2->v3 like transitions in one go00:26
jaypipesI guess I've been thinking of microversions as the ability of an API minor version to be incremented along with backwards-compatible changes, and major version numbers saved for backwards-incompatible changes.00:27
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jaypipescyeoh: yes, we agree, I just have been using slightly different terms.00:27
cyeohyep thats what I meant. So for X.Y.Z as a version number00:27
jaypipes++00:27
cyeohX - would be bumped for backwards incompatible, Y for minor, Z perhaps for bug fixes (maybe)00:28
cyeohok cool :-)00:28
jaypipescyeoh: do we have a separate set of BPs/specs *just* for the schema discovery stuff?00:28
cyeohso I think JSON-Home/jsonschema will be great for those who want to do discovery. But frankly a lot of developers out there are going to be lazy and just code against a specific version of the API00:29
cyeohjaypipes: no we do need one. I think the microversions work is more urgent for now because its blocking other API work00:29
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cyeohbut I've mentioned I'd love to see nova specs for them if someone has the time00:29
jaypipescyeoh: for me, it's not really about developers using the schema discovery with auto-generated code or anything like that. it's about the schemas actually serving as the API documentation itself.00:30
annegentleor at least some self-discoverability00:30
jaypipesala Swagger or APIBlueprint.00:30
cyeohjaypipes: yea I *really* want to see documentation available like that00:30
annegentleyou still need more docs00:30
jaypipesannegentle: absolutely true.00:30
annegentleand YES to Swagger, meh on API blueprint (It's the etherpad of api docs to me)00:31
cyeohso I watched the openstack hour thing on docs the other day00:31
jaypipesannegentle: but it's better than our current situation, which is very repetitive (I think  we can ALL agree on that! ;)00:31
annegentlecool cyeoh :)00:31
cyeohand the mention about how we need a human involved in producing the docs too00:31
annegentlerepetitive meaning across the versions or?00:31
jaypipesannegentle: yes, ++ on Swagger vs APIBlueprint, now that I've used both, it's a no-brainer.00:31
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cyeohso I'm wondering if the json schema/ json home output is sufficient?00:32
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jaypipesannegentle: repetitive as in just take a look at the repetitive coding changes needed in a very simple API change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114107/5 :)00:32
cyeohfor the production of docs I mean. Or do we need to provide more00:32
annegentlecyeoh: well, so far, it's not sufficient across all OpenStack projects00:32
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annegentlecyeoh: for reference info, it might be fine, but we do need more guidelines docs as well, which could be common across all APIs for OpenStack services00:33
jaypipesI'd really prefer to see the API specs developed in separate repos from code, frankly.00:33
cyeohok. I'm just wondering if we'd need to still provide api samples00:33
jaypipesala Keystone's identity API documentation/spec00:33
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annegentlejaypipes: I'm working on patches that add the api info to <project>-specs00:33
annegentleyep exactly jaypipes00:33
annegentlecyeoh: ideally, yes, tested samples... but again there may be some automation we can do there00:34
annegentlecyeoh: to a point anyway00:34
cyeohannegentle: yea even in our api sample tests that api samples aren't often tested very well anyway :-(00:34
jaypipescyeoh: the API samples are a critical part of API documentation, but if we used something like Swagger, the documentation *is* the JSONSchema documents, so you only need to keep the JSONSchema docs that describe the API up to date, and samples are generated from them.00:34
annegentlewhat I'm telling new projects is that it's fine to automate the first round but then carefully hand-maintain to ensure truth... not that code is truth but that the spec is truth. ya know00:34
annegentlejaypipes: yeah I think that's true too00:35
jaypipesannegentle: right, ++00:35
cyeohso I'd be fine saying the spec is the truth if we actually wrote the spec before doing the code, but historically we haven't done that00:35
jaypipesannegentle: ooh, that's a neat idea (api spec within the <project>-specs repo.)00:35
cyeohso IMO for what we currently have the code is the truth00:35
annegentlecyeoh: one note about your patch to set up the api working group repo, might take a page from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125508/5/gerrit/acls/openstack/openstack-specs.config for the question Anita had.00:36
jaypipescyeoh: there is no spoon (truth) :000:36
annegentlejaypipes: yes! Identity is doing that this week... need to get my butt in gear to get patches for the other projets00:36
cyeohannegentle: thanks!00:36
annegentleheh hopefully I'm not completely derailing your meeting :)00:36
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annegentleice cream time at my house, later!00:37
cyeohso I will wish again to be able to have patches dependent across repositories .... so we can make sure people have docs before merging code00:37
jaypipescyeoh: but, in all seriousness, I totally agree with you that our current state of affairs in nova is certainly not pretty, and indeed, the code is the source of truth for the v2[.1] APIs.00:37
cyeohjaypipes: yep - I -1 patches that say this makes the code conform to the Nova api specs :-)00:37
cyeohannegentle: thanks - enjoy! :-)00:38
jaypipescyeoh: the trick is.. how do we get to a point where for new versions of the compute API, we do actually have a spec that we write code from, and not the other way around?00:38
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cyeohjaypipes: so I am trying to tighten down on what goes into nova specs in the API section (though some stuff is still getting approved a bit soon)00:38
jaypipescyeoh: do we say (once the v3->v2.1 stuff is all done) that we're going to do a v3 API in a totally different way, and for the v3 API, we're gonna do spec first, then code to it?00:39
cyeohand I think we can make nova-specs "the truth"00:39
cyeohtests and docs should be written against nova-specs00:39
jaypipescyeoh: yeah, that's a very good idea about having the api spec in the project-specs repo. +1000:39
jaypipescyeoh: right, xactly.00:39
cyeohso I don't think there will ever be a v3.00:40
cyeohwe'll use microversions to slowly iterate towards what we want..00:40
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jaypipescyeoh: but I want backwards-incompatible stuff...00:41
jaypipesfor instance... tasks API, getting rid of flavors, getting rid of admin API operations, etc00:41
cyeohjaypipes: yep, thats fine. We bump the microversion major number for that. But we'll be doing that quite a bit00:41
cyeohwe just won't call it v3, v4, v5 etc00:41
jaypipesoh, I see00:41
* jaypipes needs to read the spec :)00:42
cyeohit'll just be: 3.2.0 or 4.1.0 etc00:42
jaypipeswill do that tomorrow morn!00:42
cyeohcool :-)00:42
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cyeoh#topic API WG00:42
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cyeohfor those who missed the email,00:42
cyeoh#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group00:42
cyeohif you know people from other projects please encourage them to get involved00:43
cyeohthere's little point if this turns out to be just a Nova thing00:43
jaypipesyes. lbragstad is in, for sure, as is armax for neutron IIRC00:44
jaypipesor maybe it was salvatore00:44
cyeohcool :-)00:44
jaypipesI'll check and see if eglynn-office would like to have a ceilo-core participate.00:44
jaypipesmaybe dina...00:44
cyeohyea that'll be great. I wish I was going to Paris :-(00:45
jaypipescyeoh: :( vancouver it will be :)00:45
cyeohjaypipes: yep!00:45
jaypipesawesomesauce00:45
cyeoh#topic Open Discussion00:45
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cyeohanyone have anything?00:46
gmanncyeoh: sorry i missed JSON schema one00:46
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gmanncyeoh:  whats plan for importing response schema we have in tempest to nova00:46
cyeohgmann: we should do it :-) Do you want to write up a spec? I fully support us checking our responses on the way out00:47
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gmanncyeoh: i think only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87191/ is pending. other are done00:47
gmanncyeoh: sure00:47
cyeohcool :-)00:47
cyeohthough given tempest coverage of Nova is 100% complete we will have more schema to write on the Nova side I think00:47
cyeohI mean tempest coverage is not 100% complete00:48
gmanncyeoh: true00:48
cyeohanyway I think its something we should fit into Kilo00:48
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cyeohdoes anyone have anything else?00:49
cyeohok. lets have an early 10 minutes. Thanks everyone!00:49
alex_xuthanks all00:50
gmannThanks all00:50
cyeoh#endmeeting00:50
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nirupmahi sajeesh16:01
sajeeshhi nirupma16:01
schwickehi all16:01
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schwicke#startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy16:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Oct 17 16:01:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
sajeeshschwicke16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy'16:01
schwickesorry again for last Friday.16:02
schwickeOur internet connection broke down right in time ...16:02
sajeeshno problem16:02
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schwicke#topic quota blue print16:03
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sajeeshI have been asked to upload the bp in gerrit.16:03
sajeeshhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api16:03
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schwickegreat16:03
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schwicke#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api16:03
schwickehere we go16:03
sajeeshI will upload it today16:03
schwicke#action Sajeesh will upload the quote driver to gerrit today16:04
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schwickeI think it is important to do that asap so that people can have a look before the summit16:05
sajeesh+116:05
schwickeAny issues so far ?16:05
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sajeeshnothing16:06
schwickeok16:06
sajeeshtesting is progressing well16:06
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schwickeI've been pretty stuck with other stuff during the last 2 weeks. Sorry about that.16:06
sajeeshno problem16:07
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VINOD_schwicke: Sajeesh has integrated the code with Keystone hierarchical code and its working well16:07
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schwicketesteed on the VM ?16:07
sajeeshyes...I have created a VM for that16:08
VINOD_The VM provided by Raildo is closed16:08
VINOD_and so sajeesh created a VM and had taken the latest hierarchical code from github16:08
sajeeshI have taken Raildo's code from gerrit16:08
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schwickethat's good news!16:08
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schwickeWe still had a question if we need client tool support to set the quota.16:09
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schwicke#topic client tool support16:09
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sajeeshschwicke ,since the api calls remains the same,nova client will be essentially the same16:10
schwickeneeds testing anyway.16:10
sajeeshsure16:10
schwickeI'm also referring to this:16:10
schwicke#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12110116:10
schwickeposted by raildo last Friday16:11
VINOD_schwicke: But this code is for V3....16:12
schwickeright16:13
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sajeeshshwicke,what I mean is that nova client remains the same no matter whether the projects are nested or not16:13
VINOD_schwicke: I didn't get how it is related to quota code for nova client16:13
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VINOD_sajeesh: Its fine. I think what schwicke was trying to say is that, we have to test it to be sure16:14
VINOD_otherwise the link will break between nova client and its api's16:14
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sajeeshsure,that will be dobe16:14
schwickeVINOD_: even if we think there is nothing to do this should be confirmed by testing16:15
sajeeshthat will be done16:15
VINOD_yes, exactly16:15
sajeesh+116:15
schwicke+116:15
schwicke#topic summit preparation16:15
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schwickeI was scanning through the design summit stuff16:16
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schwicke#link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/16:16
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schwicke#link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/bd8c499d6087ca672f0dd6b496ffb3d7#.VEFA1YUicWM16:18
schwickeNiru-mpa: please sign up to taht16:19
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schwicke(I think she's not there, is she ?)16:19
VINOD_i think she is there16:19
sajeeshshe is there16:19
VINOD_Nirupma: Are you there?16:19
nirupmayes i am here16:19
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nirupmathe connection is not very gud today and is breaking in between16:20
nirupmai'll sign up for the session16:20
schwickeok.16:20
schwicke#action: Nirupma should sign up for the hierarchical multi-tenancy session16:21
schwickeI see Tim already signed up for it as well.16:21
VINOD_yes16:21
schwickeNirupma: you should of course also go to the cross-project workshop.16:22
morganfainbergThat session is closely related to the other policy session(s) we're having16:22
morganfainbergjust as a heads up... there is a lot of policy talk this summit16:22
sajeeshhi morganfainberg16:22
morganfainberghi :)16:23
nirupmaok16:23
schwickeHi morganfainberg16:23
morganfainbergThe other policy discussion that *could* be interesting to HM topics is16:23
morganfainberg#link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/061876b56285e8a46443bc3bf730031b16:23
schwickeyep16:23
schwicke#action Nirupma should sign up to http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/061876b56285e8a46443bc3bf730031b as well16:24
nirupmadone16:24
schwicke(again, Tiim has signed up for that already :-) )16:24
nirupmayes16:24
schwickeany special session on Quota management and store? I saw the remarks von vish in the last meeting ...16:25
schwickeThat is another thing we need to keep an eye on but where will that be discussed ?16:25
sajeeshexactly16:26
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schwickepossibly in the corss project workshop but maybe there is something else16:26
VINOD_I didn't any session on this...as for lot of sessions (in nova), it is mentioned that topic is yet to be decided16:26
schwickeCurrently there are quite some session topics in tbd16:27
schwicke#action scan http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ for possible interesting new topics16:27
VINOD_#link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/8df02f751841faa1cee7e4f1de1450f1#.VEFDV1f4LEo16:27
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VINOD_sorry wrongly posted....i thought it is openstack-client...but it is keystone-client16:28
schwickeyep16:28
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schwickenot sure if this one might be interesting:16:31
schwicke#link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/336040396ada6a1101ada03c7693f9f8#.VEFD9oUicWM16:31
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schwickeotherwise I don't have anything else which needs to be urgently discussed16:32
sajeeshI also think so16:32
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sajeeshhi raildo16:32
raildohi all16:32
schwickehi raildo16:32
VINOD_nothing more from my side as well...16:32
raildosorry for the delay16:32
nirupmahi raildo16:33
sajeeshno problem..raildo16:33
raildoi'll read the log16:33
sajeeshraildo,any updates16:33
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schwickeRaildo: I have a question for you16:34
schwickedo you happen to know how the cross project workshop is organized16:34
schwickeit seems to me as if there are 3 sessions in parallel16:35
schwickeis that correct?16:35
schwickeIf so, how to decide to which one to sign up?16:35
raildohum... that is a good question16:36
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schwickecan check here with people who have been there last time maybe16:37
nirupmajust a thought16:38
nirupmamay be we can decide after further details are provided16:38
schwickeyes, I think we have to wait longer to see how this evolves.16:38
nirupmaright now very few sessions have been disclosed16:39
raildoI believe it depends on the content of each meeting.16:39
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schwickeyes.16:40
schwickeLet's see when they come up with some more detailed topics. Its probably simply to early.16:40
raildoI do not have an answer to this question . :P16:40
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schwicke#topic AOB16:41
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schwickenothing else from my side for today16:41
sajeeshfrom my side as well,raildo are there any updates from your side ?16:42
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schwickeok16:43
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VINOD_nothing else from my side as well16:43
raildojust that the design session was confirmed, as you have seen.16:43
sajeeshok16:43
schwickeyes, that's good!16:43
raildoand we are having several reviews of our patches, which is very good16:43
schwickeI put a link earlier.16:43
sajeeshgreat16:43
schwicke+116:43
raildoincluding some +216:43
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sajeeshgreat16:44
schwickehope we'll be as successful for the quota parts ;-)16:44
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sajeesh:-)16:44
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raildome too :)16:45
VINOD_Bye all for now...have a great weekend16:45
schwickeyes, buy everybody!16:46
VINOD_I have to go...so bye all16:46
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schwickeSajeesh: keep us informed !16:46
sajeeshGood bye all :-) Nice weekend16:46
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schwicke#endmeeting16:46
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"16:46
openstackMeeting ended Fri Oct 17 16:46:34 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:46
raildobye, have a nice weekend16:46
sajeeshschwicke ..sure16:46
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-10-17-16.01.html16:46
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-10-17-16.01.txt16:46
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-10-17-16.01.log.html16:46
nirupmabye everyone.... have a nice weekend16:46
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