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jaypipes | o/ | 00:01 |
cyeoh | #endmeeting | 00:01 |
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jaypipes | evening, chris | 00:01 |
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cyeoh | #startmeeting nova api | 00:01 |
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eliqiao | hi | 00:01 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: sorry started it with the wrong name :-) | 00:01 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: good evening :) | 00:01 |
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jaypipes | no probs | 00:01 |
alex_xu | hi, good evening and morning | 00:01 |
cyeoh | morning! Who else is on? | 00:01 |
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cyeoh | oomchi mentioned he'd be on a plane today so won't be able to make it | 00:02 |
cyeoh | ok, lets get started | 00:02 |
cyeoh | #topic v2.1 on v3 | 00:02 |
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eliqiao | yeah, seems he went to German ? | 00:03 |
cyeoh | So the patches seem to be merging in ok. Does anyone have any issues with what is currently in review? | 00:03 |
cyeoh | eliqiao: yea I think he went to LinuxCon | 00:03 |
eliqiao | not yet, I have some patches waiting for merging.. | 00:03 |
alex_xu | just think we should merge porting patch first, then begin to improvement the v2.1 api code. right? | 00:04 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: unfortunately, I've been swamped with resource tracker and scheduler specs, patches, and reviews. have not reviewed any 2.1 api patches :( | 00:04 |
eliqiao | agreed, it will be easy for review. | 00:04 |
cyeoh | alex_xu: yes, port first in one patch then cleanup patches | 00:04 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: np | 00:04 |
cyeoh | so in terms of further work - we do need to: | 00:05 |
cyeoh | - verify nothing merged into the v2 version at the end of Juno that wasn't in v2.1 (and fix if it has happened) | 00:05 |
cyeoh | - keep an eye out for anything that touches v2 from now on and ensure that they also fix v2.1 | 00:05 |
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cyeoh | please -1 any patch that you see does that (sometimes the v2.1 code is different enough that a fix is not required though) | 00:06 |
alex_xu | ok | 00:06 |
eliqiao | agreed. | 00:06 |
cyeoh | Also we need to finish all the json schmea for v2.1 - looks like probably gmann has put that on the worklist etherpad? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/v2_1_WorkList | 00:07 |
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alex_xu | emm...I put that | 00:07 |
eliqiao | yeah, 1 update on that one. | 00:07 |
cyeoh | alex_xu: ah ok, cool - thanks for that! | 00:07 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, np :) | 00:07 |
cyeoh | the other thing we need to look at when people have some time is tempest testing. That will get easier as more patches merge | 00:08 |
alex_xu | also we have some unittest didn't share between v2 and v2.1 yet, those should be complex thing | 00:09 |
cyeoh | Once we have v2.1 passing all the tempest tests that v2 do I think we go to the CD operators and ask them if they could do some testing | 00:09 |
cyeoh | alex_xu: yes I'd like us to spend some time reducing that sort of technical debt - eg servers tests. Some of them just need a lot of cleaning too. Lots of duplicated code etc | 00:09 |
cyeoh | where you have spare time it'd be great to work on that sort of thing. | 00:10 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, yes, I will try to list those work on our workinglist first | 00:10 |
cyeoh | alex_xu: thanks! | 00:10 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, np | 00:10 |
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cyeoh | #topic microversions | 00:11 |
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cyeoh | I unfortunately haven't had time to update the spec this week. Am hoping to get to it today. | 00:11 |
cyeoh | It's blocking things like the tasks api so its very important for kilo | 00:11 |
cyeoh | I appreciate all the feedback we've had so far. | 00:12 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: if you get a chance would you mind having a look at it too? | 00:12 |
cyeoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/127127 | 00:12 |
cyeoh | its something I think other projects should consider too. Given as their APIs grow its going to be harder for them to do big v2->v3 like transitions | 00:13 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: yup, on it. | 00:14 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: thanks! | 00:14 |
cyeoh | #topic api policy | 00:14 |
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jaypipes | np! again, sorry for being so busy :( | 00:14 |
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cyeoh | jaypipes: thats fine I totally understand :-) | 00:14 |
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cyeoh | alex_xu: so I've read through your first two api policy specs and they look pretty reasonable (I left some comments) | 00:15 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, thanks | 00:15 |
cyeoh | I haven't had a chance to look at third yet though | 00:15 |
jaypipes | links please? | 00:15 |
cyeoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/127160 | 00:15 |
cyeoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/128560 | 00:16 |
alex_xu | That's for full view of policy improvement | 00:16 |
jaypipes | thx' | 00:16 |
cyeoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/127863 | 00:16 |
alex_xu | I mean 128560 is the full view | 00:16 |
cyeoh | alex_xu so I'm not really familiar with oslo policy.d stuff. Does it give the override like feature that John was looking for? | 00:16 |
alex_xu | jaypipes, cyeoh, if you want to review, I suggestion begin from 128560 | 00:17 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, yes | 00:17 |
jaypipes | alex_xu: will do! :) | 00:17 |
alex_xu | jaypipes, thanks | 00:17 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104157/ | 00:17 |
alex_xu | this is the policy.d spec | 00:17 |
jaypipes | one thing I wanted to note about "backwards incompatibility"... | 00:18 |
cyeoh | I think this one area where we need the feedback from operators and listen to them very carefully. As they're the ones going to feel the pain from the change | 00:18 |
* jaypipes should wait for open topic... | 00:18 | |
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cyeoh | backwards compatibility for api policy or more generally? | 00:18 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, yes, how we can get feedback from them? | 00:18 |
cyeoh | alex_xu: well John is a good rep from the rackspace side. Maybe can get Phil Day to comment too? | 00:19 |
cyeoh | alex_xu: maybe you could post about the specs to the operators list too - just make sure we're clean in the specs the impact on them | 00:19 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, ok, John already on the review list, I will try to mail Phil | 00:19 |
alex_xu | cyeoh, ok | 00:20 |
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cyeoh | jaypipes: we can talk about your thing now if you'd like | 00:20 |
cyeoh | #topic backwards compatibility | 00:20 |
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jaypipes | cyeoh: ok, cool. so, something that I brought up on a patch from xu-huawei (can't find the patch right now...) was that I disagreed that changing failure HTTP response codes was "OK" to do. | 00:21 |
cyeoh | yep, so the APIGuidelines page has for a very long time said that we can change failure HTTP response codes | 00:22 |
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jaypipes | cyeoh: any change to HTTP response codes, IMO, is a backwards incompatible change, because it, by definition, will break clients expecting to translate a code into a message. | 00:22 |
cyeoh | and still consider backwards compatible (even though I agree its not) | 00:22 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: you mean the APICompatibility wiki page, right? | 00:22 |
jaypipes | or rather APIChangeGuidelines :) | 00:23 |
cyeoh | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/APIChangeGuidelines | 00:23 |
jaypipes | yeah :) | 00:23 |
eliqiao | jaypipes: IMO, if we don't bring backwards incompatible change, then ,why we develop the new api? | 00:23 |
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alex_xu | actually I prefer the jaypipes saying, maybe we should adjust the guideline in API working group | 00:23 |
cyeoh | yes, I think we should change it in the longer term, BUT | 00:23 |
jaypipes | alex_xu: for sure, it's something the API WG should look into long term, yes | 00:23 |
cyeoh | we have done so many of these in the last few cycles that I think we should just finish cleaning them up | 00:23 |
eliqiao | even if the http response code is not correct, shouldn't we change it and make it much reasonable ? | 00:23 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: ok, that's fair I guess. | 00:24 |
cyeoh | we can easily put the clamp down on it once we have microversions and can easily make backwards incompatible changes | 00:24 |
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alex_xu | eliqiao, that's the reason we bring up micro-version | 00:24 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: as you know, I'm more focused on future APIs :) | 00:24 |
cyeoh | eliqiao: so the difference between success and error codes is that lots of people check for success codes, much fewer developers look closely at error codes | 00:25 |
eliqiao | okay , I get what jaypipes' mean. not change current api. do the 'right' things on new APIs, correct? | 00:25 |
cyeoh | anyway thats why I think they are treated differently | 00:25 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: well, microversions doesn't get us out of all compatibilty issues. but schema and payload discovery will. | 00:25 |
jaypipes | eliqiao: yes. | 00:25 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: I think microversions does allow us to make any backwards incompatible change | 00:25 |
cyeoh | we just bump the major version | 00:25 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: yes. but that's not micro versioning, now, is it? :) | 00:25 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: yea I think it is | 00:26 |
cyeoh | we just don't try to do v2->v3 like transitions in one go | 00:26 |
jaypipes | I guess I've been thinking of microversions as the ability of an API minor version to be incremented along with backwards-compatible changes, and major version numbers saved for backwards-incompatible changes. | 00:27 |
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jaypipes | cyeoh: yes, we agree, I just have been using slightly different terms. | 00:27 |
cyeoh | yep thats what I meant. So for X.Y.Z as a version number | 00:27 |
jaypipes | ++ | 00:27 |
cyeoh | X - would be bumped for backwards incompatible, Y for minor, Z perhaps for bug fixes (maybe) | 00:28 |
cyeoh | ok cool :-) | 00:28 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: do we have a separate set of BPs/specs *just* for the schema discovery stuff? | 00:28 |
cyeoh | so I think JSON-Home/jsonschema will be great for those who want to do discovery. But frankly a lot of developers out there are going to be lazy and just code against a specific version of the API | 00:29 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: no we do need one. I think the microversions work is more urgent for now because its blocking other API work | 00:29 |
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cyeoh | but I've mentioned I'd love to see nova specs for them if someone has the time | 00:29 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: for me, it's not really about developers using the schema discovery with auto-generated code or anything like that. it's about the schemas actually serving as the API documentation itself. | 00:30 |
annegentle | or at least some self-discoverability | 00:30 |
jaypipes | ala Swagger or APIBlueprint. | 00:30 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: yea I *really* want to see documentation available like that | 00:30 |
annegentle | you still need more docs | 00:30 |
jaypipes | annegentle: absolutely true. | 00:30 |
annegentle | and YES to Swagger, meh on API blueprint (It's the etherpad of api docs to me) | 00:31 |
cyeoh | so I watched the openstack hour thing on docs the other day | 00:31 |
jaypipes | annegentle: but it's better than our current situation, which is very repetitive (I think we can ALL agree on that! ;) | 00:31 |
annegentle | cool cyeoh :) | 00:31 |
cyeoh | and the mention about how we need a human involved in producing the docs too | 00:31 |
annegentle | repetitive meaning across the versions or? | 00:31 |
jaypipes | annegentle: yes, ++ on Swagger vs APIBlueprint, now that I've used both, it's a no-brainer. | 00:31 |
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cyeoh | so I'm wondering if the json schema/ json home output is sufficient? | 00:32 |
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jaypipes | annegentle: repetitive as in just take a look at the repetitive coding changes needed in a very simple API change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114107/5 :) | 00:32 |
cyeoh | for the production of docs I mean. Or do we need to provide more | 00:32 |
annegentle | cyeoh: well, so far, it's not sufficient across all OpenStack projects | 00:32 |
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annegentle | cyeoh: for reference info, it might be fine, but we do need more guidelines docs as well, which could be common across all APIs for OpenStack services | 00:33 |
jaypipes | I'd really prefer to see the API specs developed in separate repos from code, frankly. | 00:33 |
cyeoh | ok. I'm just wondering if we'd need to still provide api samples | 00:33 |
jaypipes | ala Keystone's identity API documentation/spec | 00:33 |
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annegentle | jaypipes: I'm working on patches that add the api info to <project>-specs | 00:33 |
annegentle | yep exactly jaypipes | 00:33 |
annegentle | cyeoh: ideally, yes, tested samples... but again there may be some automation we can do there | 00:34 |
annegentle | cyeoh: to a point anyway | 00:34 |
cyeoh | annegentle: yea even in our api sample tests that api samples aren't often tested very well anyway :-( | 00:34 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: the API samples are a critical part of API documentation, but if we used something like Swagger, the documentation *is* the JSONSchema documents, so you only need to keep the JSONSchema docs that describe the API up to date, and samples are generated from them. | 00:34 |
annegentle | what I'm telling new projects is that it's fine to automate the first round but then carefully hand-maintain to ensure truth... not that code is truth but that the spec is truth. ya know | 00:34 |
annegentle | jaypipes: yeah I think that's true too | 00:35 |
jaypipes | annegentle: right, ++ | 00:35 |
cyeoh | so I'd be fine saying the spec is the truth if we actually wrote the spec before doing the code, but historically we haven't done that | 00:35 |
jaypipes | annegentle: ooh, that's a neat idea (api spec within the <project>-specs repo.) | 00:35 |
cyeoh | so IMO for what we currently have the code is the truth | 00:35 |
annegentle | cyeoh: one note about your patch to set up the api working group repo, might take a page from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125508/5/gerrit/acls/openstack/openstack-specs.config for the question Anita had. | 00:36 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: there is no spoon (truth) :0 | 00:36 |
annegentle | jaypipes: yes! Identity is doing that this week... need to get my butt in gear to get patches for the other projets | 00:36 |
cyeoh | annegentle: thanks! | 00:36 |
annegentle | heh hopefully I'm not completely derailing your meeting :) | 00:36 |
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annegentle | ice cream time at my house, later! | 00:37 |
cyeoh | so I will wish again to be able to have patches dependent across repositories .... so we can make sure people have docs before merging code | 00:37 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: but, in all seriousness, I totally agree with you that our current state of affairs in nova is certainly not pretty, and indeed, the code is the source of truth for the v2[.1] APIs. | 00:37 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: yep - I -1 patches that say this makes the code conform to the Nova api specs :-) | 00:37 |
cyeoh | annegentle: thanks - enjoy! :-) | 00:38 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: the trick is.. how do we get to a point where for new versions of the compute API, we do actually have a spec that we write code from, and not the other way around? | 00:38 |
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cyeoh | jaypipes: so I am trying to tighten down on what goes into nova specs in the API section (though some stuff is still getting approved a bit soon) | 00:38 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: do we say (once the v3->v2.1 stuff is all done) that we're going to do a v3 API in a totally different way, and for the v3 API, we're gonna do spec first, then code to it? | 00:39 |
cyeoh | and I think we can make nova-specs "the truth" | 00:39 |
cyeoh | tests and docs should be written against nova-specs | 00:39 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: yeah, that's a very good idea about having the api spec in the project-specs repo. +10 | 00:39 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: right, xactly. | 00:39 |
cyeoh | so I don't think there will ever be a v3. | 00:40 |
cyeoh | we'll use microversions to slowly iterate towards what we want.. | 00:40 |
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jaypipes | cyeoh: but I want backwards-incompatible stuff... | 00:41 |
jaypipes | for instance... tasks API, getting rid of flavors, getting rid of admin API operations, etc | 00:41 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: yep, thats fine. We bump the microversion major number for that. But we'll be doing that quite a bit | 00:41 |
cyeoh | we just won't call it v3, v4, v5 etc | 00:41 |
jaypipes | oh, I see | 00:41 |
* jaypipes needs to read the spec :) | 00:42 | |
cyeoh | it'll just be: 3.2.0 or 4.1.0 etc | 00:42 |
jaypipes | will do that tomorrow morn! | 00:42 |
cyeoh | cool :-) | 00:42 |
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cyeoh | #topic API WG | 00:42 |
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cyeoh | for those who missed the email, | 00:42 |
cyeoh | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group | 00:42 |
cyeoh | if you know people from other projects please encourage them to get involved | 00:43 |
cyeoh | there's little point if this turns out to be just a Nova thing | 00:43 |
jaypipes | yes. lbragstad is in, for sure, as is armax for neutron IIRC | 00:44 |
jaypipes | or maybe it was salvatore | 00:44 |
cyeoh | cool :-) | 00:44 |
jaypipes | I'll check and see if eglynn-office would like to have a ceilo-core participate. | 00:44 |
jaypipes | maybe dina... | 00:44 |
cyeoh | yea that'll be great. I wish I was going to Paris :-( | 00:45 |
jaypipes | cyeoh: :( vancouver it will be :) | 00:45 |
cyeoh | jaypipes: yep! | 00:45 |
jaypipes | awesomesauce | 00:45 |
cyeoh | #topic Open Discussion | 00:45 |
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cyeoh | anyone have anything? | 00:46 |
gmann | cyeoh: sorry i missed JSON schema one | 00:46 |
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gmann | cyeoh: whats plan for importing response schema we have in tempest to nova | 00:46 |
cyeoh | gmann: we should do it :-) Do you want to write up a spec? I fully support us checking our responses on the way out | 00:47 |
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gmann | cyeoh: i think only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87191/ is pending. other are done | 00:47 |
gmann | cyeoh: sure | 00:47 |
cyeoh | cool :-) | 00:47 |
cyeoh | though given tempest coverage of Nova is 100% complete we will have more schema to write on the Nova side I think | 00:47 |
cyeoh | I mean tempest coverage is not 100% complete | 00:48 |
gmann | cyeoh: true | 00:48 |
cyeoh | anyway I think its something we should fit into Kilo | 00:48 |
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cyeoh | does anyone have anything else? | 00:49 |
cyeoh | ok. lets have an early 10 minutes. Thanks everyone! | 00:49 |
alex_xu | thanks all | 00:50 |
gmann | Thanks all | 00:50 |
cyeoh | #endmeeting | 00:50 |
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nirupma | hi sajeesh | 16:01 |
sajeesh | hi nirupma | 16:01 |
schwicke | hi all | 16:01 |
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schwicke | #startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Fri Oct 17 16:01:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
sajeesh | schwicke | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)" | 16:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy' | 16:01 |
schwicke | sorry again for last Friday. | 16:02 |
schwicke | Our internet connection broke down right in time ... | 16:02 |
sajeesh | no problem | 16:02 |
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schwicke | #topic quota blue print | 16:03 |
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sajeesh | I have been asked to upload the bp in gerrit. | 16:03 |
sajeesh | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api | 16:03 |
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schwicke | great | 16:03 |
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schwicke | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api | 16:03 |
schwicke | here we go | 16:03 |
sajeesh | I will upload it today | 16:03 |
schwicke | #action Sajeesh will upload the quote driver to gerrit today | 16:04 |
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schwicke | I think it is important to do that asap so that people can have a look before the summit | 16:05 |
sajeesh | +1 | 16:05 |
schwicke | Any issues so far ? | 16:05 |
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sajeesh | nothing | 16:06 |
schwicke | ok | 16:06 |
sajeesh | testing is progressing well | 16:06 |
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schwicke | I've been pretty stuck with other stuff during the last 2 weeks. Sorry about that. | 16:06 |
sajeesh | no problem | 16:07 |
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VINOD_ | schwicke: Sajeesh has integrated the code with Keystone hierarchical code and its working well | 16:07 |
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sajeesh | yes | 16:07 |
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schwicke | testeed on the VM ? | 16:07 |
sajeesh | yes...I have created a VM for that | 16:08 |
VINOD_ | The VM provided by Raildo is closed | 16:08 |
VINOD_ | and so sajeesh created a VM and had taken the latest hierarchical code from github | 16:08 |
sajeesh | I have taken Raildo's code from gerrit | 16:08 |
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schwicke | that's good news! | 16:08 |
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schwicke | We still had a question if we need client tool support to set the quota. | 16:09 |
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schwicke | #topic client tool support | 16:09 |
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sajeesh | schwicke ,since the api calls remains the same,nova client will be essentially the same | 16:10 |
schwicke | needs testing anyway. | 16:10 |
sajeesh | sure | 16:10 |
schwicke | I'm also referring to this: | 16:10 |
schwicke | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121101 | 16:10 |
schwicke | posted by raildo last Friday | 16:11 |
VINOD_ | schwicke: But this code is for V3.... | 16:12 |
schwicke | right | 16:13 |
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sajeesh | shwicke,what I mean is that nova client remains the same no matter whether the projects are nested or not | 16:13 |
VINOD_ | schwicke: I didn't get how it is related to quota code for nova client | 16:13 |
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VINOD_ | sajeesh: Its fine. I think what schwicke was trying to say is that, we have to test it to be sure | 16:14 |
VINOD_ | otherwise the link will break between nova client and its api's | 16:14 |
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sajeesh | sure,that will be dobe | 16:14 |
schwicke | VINOD_: even if we think there is nothing to do this should be confirmed by testing | 16:15 |
sajeesh | that will be done | 16:15 |
VINOD_ | yes, exactly | 16:15 |
sajeesh | +1 | 16:15 |
schwicke | +1 | 16:15 |
schwicke | #topic summit preparation | 16:15 |
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schwicke | I was scanning through the design summit stuff | 16:16 |
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schwicke | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ | 16:16 |
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schwicke | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/bd8c499d6087ca672f0dd6b496ffb3d7#.VEFA1YUicWM | 16:18 |
schwicke | Niru-mpa: please sign up to taht | 16:19 |
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schwicke | (I think she's not there, is she ?) | 16:19 |
VINOD_ | i think she is there | 16:19 |
sajeesh | she is there | 16:19 |
VINOD_ | Nirupma: Are you there? | 16:19 |
nirupma | yes i am here | 16:19 |
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nirupma | the connection is not very gud today and is breaking in between | 16:20 |
nirupma | i'll sign up for the session | 16:20 |
schwicke | ok. | 16:20 |
schwicke | #action: Nirupma should sign up for the hierarchical multi-tenancy session | 16:21 |
schwicke | I see Tim already signed up for it as well. | 16:21 |
VINOD_ | yes | 16:21 |
schwicke | Nirupma: you should of course also go to the cross-project workshop. | 16:22 |
morganfainberg | That session is closely related to the other policy session(s) we're having | 16:22 |
morganfainberg | just as a heads up... there is a lot of policy talk this summit | 16:22 |
sajeesh | hi morganfainberg | 16:22 |
morganfainberg | hi :) | 16:23 |
nirupma | ok | 16:23 |
schwicke | Hi morganfainberg | 16:23 |
morganfainberg | The other policy discussion that *could* be interesting to HM topics is | 16:23 |
morganfainberg | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/061876b56285e8a46443bc3bf730031b | 16:23 |
schwicke | yep | 16:23 |
schwicke | #action Nirupma should sign up to http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/061876b56285e8a46443bc3bf730031b as well | 16:24 |
nirupma | done | 16:24 |
schwicke | (again, Tiim has signed up for that already :-) ) | 16:24 |
nirupma | yes | 16:24 |
schwicke | any special session on Quota management and store? I saw the remarks von vish in the last meeting ... | 16:25 |
schwicke | That is another thing we need to keep an eye on but where will that be discussed ? | 16:25 |
sajeesh | exactly | 16:26 |
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schwicke | possibly in the corss project workshop but maybe there is something else | 16:26 |
VINOD_ | I didn't any session on this...as for lot of sessions (in nova), it is mentioned that topic is yet to be decided | 16:26 |
schwicke | Currently there are quite some session topics in tbd | 16:27 |
schwicke | #action scan http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ for possible interesting new topics | 16:27 |
VINOD_ | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/8df02f751841faa1cee7e4f1de1450f1#.VEFDV1f4LEo | 16:27 |
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VINOD_ | sorry wrongly posted....i thought it is openstack-client...but it is keystone-client | 16:28 |
schwicke | yep | 16:28 |
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schwicke | not sure if this one might be interesting: | 16:31 |
schwicke | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/336040396ada6a1101ada03c7693f9f8#.VEFD9oUicWM | 16:31 |
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schwicke | otherwise I don't have anything else which needs to be urgently discussed | 16:32 |
sajeesh | I also think so | 16:32 |
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sajeesh | hi raildo | 16:32 |
raildo | hi all | 16:32 |
schwicke | hi raildo | 16:32 |
VINOD_ | nothing more from my side as well... | 16:32 |
raildo | sorry for the delay | 16:32 |
nirupma | hi raildo | 16:33 |
sajeesh | no problem..raildo | 16:33 |
raildo | i'll read the log | 16:33 |
sajeesh | raildo,any updates | 16:33 |
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schwicke | Raildo: I have a question for you | 16:34 |
schwicke | do you happen to know how the cross project workshop is organized | 16:34 |
schwicke | it seems to me as if there are 3 sessions in parallel | 16:35 |
schwicke | is that correct? | 16:35 |
schwicke | If so, how to decide to which one to sign up? | 16:35 |
raildo | hum... that is a good question | 16:36 |
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schwicke | can check here with people who have been there last time maybe | 16:37 |
nirupma | just a thought | 16:38 |
nirupma | may be we can decide after further details are provided | 16:38 |
schwicke | yes, I think we have to wait longer to see how this evolves. | 16:38 |
nirupma | right now very few sessions have been disclosed | 16:39 |
raildo | I believe it depends on the content of each meeting. | 16:39 |
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schwicke | yes. | 16:40 |
schwicke | Let's see when they come up with some more detailed topics. Its probably simply to early. | 16:40 |
raildo | I do not have an answer to this question . :P | 16:40 |
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schwicke | #topic AOB | 16:41 |
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schwicke | nothing else from my side for today | 16:41 |
sajeesh | from my side as well,raildo are there any updates from your side ? | 16:42 |
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schwicke | ok | 16:43 |
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VINOD_ | nothing else from my side as well | 16:43 |
raildo | just that the design session was confirmed, as you have seen. | 16:43 |
sajeesh | ok | 16:43 |
schwicke | yes, that's good! | 16:43 |
raildo | and we are having several reviews of our patches, which is very good | 16:43 |
schwicke | I put a link earlier. | 16:43 |
sajeesh | great | 16:43 |
schwicke | +1 | 16:43 |
raildo | including some +2 | 16:43 |
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sajeesh | great | 16:44 |
schwicke | hope we'll be as successful for the quota parts ;-) | 16:44 |
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sajeesh | :-) | 16:44 |
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raildo | me too :) | 16:45 |
VINOD_ | Bye all for now...have a great weekend | 16:45 |
schwicke | yes, buy everybody! | 16:46 |
VINOD_ | I have to go...so bye all | 16:46 |
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schwicke | Sajeesh: keep us informed ! | 16:46 |
sajeesh | Good bye all :-) Nice weekend | 16:46 |
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schwicke | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:46 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Fri Oct 17 16:46:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
raildo | bye, have a nice weekend | 16:46 |
sajeesh | schwicke ..sure | 16:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-10-17-16.01.html | 16:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-10-17-16.01.txt | 16:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-10-17-16.01.log.html | 16:46 |
nirupma | bye everyone.... have a nice weekend | 16:46 |
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