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| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 30 14:00:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 14:00 |
| dougwig | #topic Roll call and Agenda | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll call and Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:00 | |
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| dougwig | morning | 14:00 |
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| dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Meeting_30.10.2014 | 14:00 |
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| xgerman | gm | 14:00 |
| ptoohill | mornin o/ | 14:00 |
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| jorgem | o/ | 14:00 |
| sballe | o/ | 14:00 |
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| rm_work | o/ | 14:00 |
| dougwig | pre-summit, mostly book-keeping today. | 14:00 |
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| dougwig | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:01 | |
| dougwig | The first 3 lbaas v2 reviews are now merged on the feature branch (thank you oleg, mestery, and blogan!) | 14:01 |
| dougwig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews | 14:01 |
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| dougwig | those were the core reviews that most of the others were dependent on. | 14:02 |
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| dougwig | If you haven't already, vote for what Neutron lightning talks you'd like to see: | 14:02 |
| ptoohill | +1000 yay | 14:02 |
| dougwig | #link https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RLTPBY6 | 14:03 |
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| dougwig | there is one lbaas item on that list. | 14:03 |
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| xgerman | also do we know more about the UDP LB meeting? | 14:03 |
| dougwig | you're jumping ahead in the agenda. :) | 14:03 |
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| dougwig | finally for announcements, unless anyone objects, we'll cancel this meeting next week during the summit. | 14:04 |
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| xgerman | +1 | 14:04 |
| dougwig | ok, canceled. | 14:04 |
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| dougwig | #topic Final roll call for Paris | 14:05 |
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| dougwig | this might be a lean tally, since i don't see many folks here this morning. :) | 14:05 |
| ptoohill | All the partying last night i guess :P | 14:05 |
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| ptoohill | o/ | 14:05 |
| dougwig | o/ | 14:05 |
| xgerman | san antonio won another NBA thing? | 14:05 |
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| ptoohill | lol | 14:05 |
| ptoohill | they won a game | 14:06 |
| ptoohill | barely | 14:06 |
| dougwig | you texans. the humidity messes with your brains. | 14:06 |
| dougwig | moving on to xgerman's question | 14:06 |
| dougwig | #topic UDP LB session | 14:06 |
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| ptoohill | :P | 14:06 |
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| dougwig | i don't see mark on. are we doing this thing? apparently i'm buying, since the reviews merged. | 14:06 |
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| dougwig | do we know the evening schedules yet? what's a good night/etc ? | 14:07 |
| xgerman | well, I am free except Tuesday and Thursday night ;-) | 14:07 |
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| xgerman | MonL Mirantis party | 14:08 |
| xgerman | Tue: HP Party | 14:08 |
| xgerman | Wed: Redhat Party | 14:08 |
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| blogan | ill be somewhere every night | 14:09 |
| dougwig | ok, we'll figure out a slot and use the ML to coordinate. | 14:09 |
| xgerman | awesome | 14:09 |
| dougwig | #topic Meeting time change | 14:09 |
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| xgerman | yes!! | 14:10 |
| dougwig | this is a pre-discussion of a chat that we're going to have with sam next week; he mentioned that a slightly later meeting time might work on a day other than thursday or friday. | 14:10 |
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| blogan | can we make it earlier? | 14:10 |
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| dougwig | you can show up earlier | 14:10 |
| xgerman | if we go early enough, e.g. 9 pm PST I am in | 14:10 |
| blogan | did sam say that time worked for him yesterday? | 14:11 |
| dougwig | yes, just not on thursday | 14:11 |
| xgerman | we should take it to the ML so people who can't come to the meeting can vote, too | 14:11 |
| dougwig | good idea. | 14:12 |
| dougwig | #action dougwig suggest alternate meeting times on ML | 14:12 |
| xgerman | we probably should use the survey monkey :-) | 14:12 |
| dougwig | heh. | 14:12 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 14:12 |
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| xgerman | Spin Off? | 14:12 |
| dougwig | any other items, summit related or otherwise? | 14:13 |
| xgerman | yes: | 14:13 |
| xgerman | * Spin Off? | 14:13 |
| xgerman | * Feature Branch graduation criteria? | 14:13 |
| xgerman | dougwig any new info on those? | 14:13 |
| dougwig | not yet. i'd wager the grad requirements will be similar to the incubator requirements. mestery? | 14:14 |
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| blogan | and I assume none of us want to spin out of neutron to go become a stackforge project right? we want the spin out to be openstack or at least incubated openstack immediately? | 14:15 |
| sballe | That would be my prefered but I am starting to loose faith is that approach :( | 14:15 |
| jorgem | ideally yes I would say | 14:16 |
| dougwig | i want to do whichever gets us sufficient velocity to meet our goals, and i'm willing to take a phased approach to that. | 14:16 |
| sballe | s/in | 14:16 |
| xgerman | for HP all options are on the table | 14:16 |
| sballe | dougwig: +1 Agree 100% | 14:16 |
| xgerman | but jorgem +1 | 14:16 |
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| blogan | i suspect neutron lbaas would have to remain until a spin out lbaas is actually in openstack | 14:17 |
| xgerman | well, I am still fuzzy on that networking program | 14:17 |
| blogan | me too | 14:17 |
| jorgem | sballe: xgerman: Did the recent split provoke a change in strategy for HP? No need to answer that if you can't but it seems you are saying HP is more open to being non-Openstack branded for everything? | 14:17 |
| dougwig | blogan: i suspect you're right, but we can clarify that next week. | 14:17 |
| sballe | jorgem: no. | 14:17 |
| xgerman | jorgem: the whole incubator (mess) wore us down | 14:17 |
| sballe | xgerman: +1 | 14:18 |
| jorgem | sballe: Okay, just want to be clear. | 14:18 |
| jorgem | xgerman: gotcha | 14:18 |
| sballe | in the end we still want it to end up in OpenStack but we could take a phased approach | 14:18 |
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| ptoohill | Yea, looking forward to the advanced svcs talk | 14:18 |
| sballe | jorgem: ^^ | 14:18 |
| blogan | looking forward to if any decisions get made in that | 14:18 |
| blogan | probably not, it'll have to be side conversations | 14:19 |
| ptoohill | glass is half full | 14:19 |
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| jorgem | sballe: I hear ya. At the end of the day we all have to launch a product at some point. | 14:19 |
| jorgem | :/ | 14:19 |
| dougwig | we are not the only group chomping at the bit, so i have my doubts that 40 minutes is long enough for everyone to even air their issues. | 14:19 |
| xgerman | yep, and the point is now 6 months sooner | 14:19 |
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| blogan | many issues, many groups | 14:21 |
| blogan | many questions | 14:21 |
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| dougwig | any more on that topic? i'm expecting to get into that stuff more f2f. | 14:22 |
| dougwig | or any other topics? | 14:22 |
| blogan | yeah me too | 14:22 |
| sballe | dougwig: could we setup some time to talk to mark beforehand? | 14:22 |
| blogan | and dougwig and i will throw down on neutron lbaas drivers | 14:22 |
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| dougwig | you bet we will | 14:23 |
| dougwig | sballe: yes, i can ask. | 14:23 |
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| sballe | dougwig: I would like for us to get some side conversation going so we can get whats's best for us | 14:23 |
| sballe | as you said too many people too many groups too many concerns and too little time during the one session | 14:24 |
| dougwig | agreed. | 14:24 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:24 |
| dougwig | any last words, or can we get out of here before sbalukoff even wakes up? | 14:25 |
| sballe | :) | 14:25 |
| jorgem | *hears groans* | 14:26 |
| dougwig | going once... | 14:26 |
| jorgem | O/ | 14:26 |
| dougwig | going twice... | 14:26 |
| sballe | bye | 14:26 |
| xgerman | jorgem - are you at the summit BTW? | 14:26 |
| jorgem | have a fun time everyone! | 14:26 |
| jorgem | negative :/ | 14:26 |
| dougwig | bye, looking forward to seeing everyone next week | 14:26 |
| xgerman | booh! | 14:26 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 14:26 |
| blogan | bye | 14:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 30 14:26:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-10-30-14.00.html | 14:26 |
| xgerman | bye | 14:26 |
| jorgem | remember the budget fiasco? | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-10-30-14.00.txt | 14:26 |
| ptoohill | bye | 14:26 |
| dougwig | or, almost everyone | 14:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-10-30-14.00.log.html | 14:26 |
| xgerman | I though you could sell the Karman | 14:26 |
| jorgem | lol | 14:27 |
| rm_work | <_< | 14:27 |
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| jorgem | I've incepted blogan and ptoohill so my thoughts will be there | 14:27 |
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| ptoohill | :) | 14:27 |
| xgerman | lol | 14:27 |
| blogan | horrible horrible thoughts | 14:27 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 30 15:01:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:01 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova | \o | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | last outing before summit :) | 15:01 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| gordc | o/ | 15:01 |
| nealph | o/ | 15:02 |
| ityaptin | Hi! | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | #topic gnocchi/TSDaaS status | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova, ityaptin: do you guys want to give the latest on the in-process dispatcher PoC? | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | ... i.e. the threading issues encountered | 15:03 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, for sure | 15:04 |
| _elena_ | hi) | 15:04 |
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| DinaBelova | so ityaptin and I are working on some draft POC of how ceilo + gnocchi via dispatcher without gnocchi api might work | 15:04 |
| DinaBelova | so basically all POCs are loaded to the review | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova | ityaptin - please publish links | 15:05 |
| eglynn | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131482/ | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, thanks! | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova | so we're facing issues with direct dispatcher + TS storage | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | something goes wrong with the threading.local thing.... | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | let me find a link | 15:06 |
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| DinaBelova | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/126961/ | 15:06 |
| eglynn | so we use the threading.local for the context object, or? | 15:06 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, it's used in the one lib (numexpr) - that's pandas dependency actually | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova | and it seems like the only place we might grab issues from is this pandas -> numexpr chain... | 15:07 |
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| DinaBelova | the only thing that makes me kind of suspecious - were do we grab this thing from while OpenTSDB usage? | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova | \as basically we don | 15:08 |
| ityaptin | opentsdb and swift dispatcher with/without using api: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lpmh8wegl3vcyk/opentsdb-without-api.html?dl=0 | 15:08 |
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| DinaBelova | don't seem to use pandas or whatever here | 15:08 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: is that because of the way the storage driver is being loaded *directly* in the dispatcher? | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, results ityaptin has mentioned - are without real ceilometer usage, just syntethic dispatcher test | 15:08 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... and also being initialized in the usual way driven by config | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, nope, with the stevedore... | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | direct load makes no issues | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: for context, see my comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131482/3/gnocchi/ceilometer/dispatcher.py | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, one moment, yeah | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, I got your point | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | as said, we've tryied get_driver thing on the lab.. | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | and there was the issue I described... | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | direct thing you see in the review is working actially... | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: could a second get_driver call also be occuring from here https://github.com/stackforge/gnocchi/blob/master/gnocchi/rest/app.py#L85 | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, we've removed importing rest locally as well.... | 15:11 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... which causes the *default* swift driver to be loaded as well? | 15:11 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, hm, do you mean while the app is starting? | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova | hm, yeah, interesting, point, let us check it! | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, thank you sir! | 15:12 |
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| eglynn | cool, thanks! | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, we'll emulate 'normal' working process with some hacks (these direct usage, etc) - to grab the performance results for the ceilo + gnocchi + opentsdb | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, so we're supposing with collector's threading, etc. results will be nice | 15:13 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: so apart from this issue with threading, the performance of the direct approach is looking reasonable? | 15:13 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, for sure | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, Pecan's API is slowing this this to-o much | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | you may take a look on the results ityaptin has published earlier here | 15:14 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: reasonable for both carbonara/swift and opentsdb, or just tested for the latter? | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, take a look on https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lpmh8wegl3vcyk/opentsdb-without-api.html?dl=0 | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova | there are results for the swift + carbonara there as well | 15:14 |
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| DinaBelova | and non-api makes things ~ x12 times faster for any backend thing | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | although for the swift + carbonara there is impl issue, I guess | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | with the measurements writing to the smae entity | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | as you see this /|/ pattern - | is actually when new resource + new entity was created | 15:16 |
| * eglynn wonders what the x-axis represents in those graphs ... labelled as "index" | 15:16 | |
| ityaptin | eglynn: Number of batch that is sent | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | ityaptin, as usually, you're having nice namings :D | 15:17 |
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| fabiog | ityaptin: these batches are sent sequentially or in parallel? | 15:18 |
| ityaptin | fabiog: Sequentially, in one thread | 15:18 |
| eglynn | ityaptin: so is this batching realistic? ... in the sense that we rarely see a so many samples for the same meter+resource all together? | 15:18 |
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| fabiog | ityaptin: are you running Pecan as separate app or using Apache? | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, this was just to emulate kind of load, to have realistic results we're trying to have ceilo + gnocchi + no - api actually working | 15:19 |
| eglynn | ityaptin: by "batch" do you mean a bunch of measures sent to the same entity in a single call? | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, and facing some problems :) | 15:19 |
| ityaptin | eglynn: yeah, it's 100 samples with same resource_id and counter_name | 15:20 |
| eglynn | ityaptin: writen in a sequence of calls, or in a single call to the storage object? | 15:20 |
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| ityaptin | fabiog: When we tested gnocchi with api, we starts gnocchi-api cli script. i think it's run pecan how separate app | 15:21 |
| fabiog | ityaptin: right, running it under Apache will improve perf significantly especially if u run several processes | 15:22 |
| ityaptin | eglynn: It is one call of dispatcher.record_metering_data. But in dispatcher we call storage, indexer or api more or equal than one time. | 15:22 |
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| fabiog | ityaptin: nevertheless, the difference is too big 4s vs 0,7s for 100 samples | 15:23 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: I am wondering if we get rid of Pecan in Ceilometer we may fly :-) | 15:23 |
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| DinaBelova | fabiog, hehe | 15:24 |
| gordc | fabiog: just curious. but with what? | 15:24 |
| eglynn | fabiog: well I guess in general we need some API layer, i.e. this in-process approach is a special case for the collector | 15:24 |
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| eglynn | ityaptin: so storage.add_measures() is called with with a *single* measure each time? | 15:24 |
| eglynn | (... as opposed to multiple measures in a single call to add_measures?) | 15:25 |
| ityaptin | fabiog: In dispatcher with api, we send 1-3 api post request for every sample. May it affect so strong to processing time? | 15:25 |
| fabiog | gordc: Keystone is still usign webOb and it is working well, also you can define routers and controllers in the way you want | 15:25 |
| eglynn | ... so basically I'm wondering if we're really batching here at all? | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | perhaps we should take this discussion offline and include jd__ also? | 15:26 |
| gordc | fabiog: i see... yeah i'm just interest because not really a huge fan of our api implmentation (and i've never looked at improving it) | 15:26 |
| fabiog | ityaptin: Pecan is basically a single process with a round-robin like threading | 15:26 |
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| fabiog | ityaptin: so if you have 5 requests in parallel are acted upon in sequence | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, well, yes probably + we'll have summit Ceilometer+Gnocchi integraitons session to finalize moments like this :) | 15:27 |
| fabiog | ityaptin: so if one takes a long time it will impact all the others | 15:27 |
| ityaptin | eglynn: How I'm understand - no. Maybe I made a mistake earlier. We group samples by resource_id in dispatcher and work with it. | 15:28 |
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| ityaptin | fabiog: In this phrase I make a mistake "we send 1-3 api post request for every sample". | 15:28 |
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| eglynn | OK, I think we need to separate two orthongonal issues here ... (a) pecan sucking and (b) the problems seen with direct dispatch to gnocchi PoC | 15:28 |
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| eglynn | (a) is definitely a good topic for longer term discussion | 15:29 |
| ityaptin | we group samples by resource_id in dispatcher. And send all measures with current res_id | 15:29 |
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| eglynn | (b) we need to solve for next week if poss | 15:29 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, indeed | 15:29 |
| fabiog | ityaptin: so you are batching measures that have the same resource_id, in batches of 100 each, is that correct? It sounds reasonable to me | 15:30 |
| eglynn | ityaptin, fabiog: the way the gnocchi API is consructed, IIUC only writes to the same entity (not just resource) can be batched | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, that's true | 15:31 |
| eglynn | (so we need a match on *both* resource_id and meter_name for multiple samples received at about the same time) | 15:31 |
| ityaptin | fabiog: yes, we send batch with 100 samples. | 15:31 |
| eglynn | this rarely happens in practice | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, usually we're having probably one meter_name, but resource IDs different | 15:32 |
| ityaptin | eglynn, fabiog: I'll run this test with different resources in batch | 15:32 |
| DinaBelova | ityaptin, well, gnocchi API won't batch them actually I suppose | 15:32 |
| eglynn | the only time I can think of in practice is when we get a tight seuqnce of compute.instance.start/update notifications during an instance boot | 15:33 |
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| DinaBelova | ityaptin, as it's not designed for it | 15:33 |
| eglynn | for polled meters, such bunching would never happen | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, about ~8 notificaitons, actually | 15:33 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: but relatively rare | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, for sure | 15:33 |
| ityaptin | DinaBelova: dispatcher is groups samples by resource_id and process it. | 15:33 |
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| DinaBelova | ityaptin, a-ha, ok | 15:34 |
| eglynn | ityaptin: yep, but I think it's being optimistic there in that logic | 15:34 |
| eglynn | sileht can confirm | 15:34 |
| eglynn | but IIUC that group_by logic would rarely yield more than one sample of the same resource_id and same meter_name | 15:35 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, at least in real life - for sure | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | with all these different samples appearing | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: yep, exactly ... and it's the real life case we need to optimize the profiling for | 15:36 |
| eglynn | anyhoo, let's take the discussion off-line, sounds like we need some input from jd__ & sileht | 15:37 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, ++ | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | #topic kilo summit planning | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | fabiog asked for a list of contributor meetup topics last time | 15:38 |
| eglynn | #link http://bit.ly/kilo-ceilometer-contributor-meetup | 15:38 |
| fabiog | eglynn: Thanks! | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | that's pretty much the left-over topics from the scheduled design track ... if anyone want to add further topics, please feel free | 15:38 |
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| llu-laptop | eglynn: could you give the real URL? bit.ly is blocked in china | 15:39 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DbL0ZR9yvgOIIgegMN65SesKtR2_BD4tz5Kpg2S934A/edit | 15:39 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: sorry about that! | 15:39 |
| llu-laptop | eglynn: thx. no, sorry for the government :( | 15:39 |
| gordc | fabiog: i'm looking at something similar to notification filter topic... ie. event pipeline | 15:40 |
| gordc | fabiog: will sync up with you on that. | 15:40 |
| eglynn | gordc: cool, that sounds interesting! | 15:40 |
| fabiog | gordc: that's exactly what I want to do, have the same concept for the event pipeline duplicated for notification pipeline | 15:40 |
| gordc | eglynn: fabiog: yeah, i think there's some existing rax stacktach bps that we could restart | 15:41 |
| fabiog | gordoc: let's talk. are you going to be at the summit? | 15:41 |
| gordc | fabiog: yep. | 15:41 |
| fabiog | eglynn: should we have a quick list of people that are sure to go among the team? | 15:42 |
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| eglynn | that I know of ... fabiog, jd__, sileht, DinaBelova, ildikov, gordc, llu-laptop, nsaje, eglynn | 15:43 |
| eglynn | pradk | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | looks like something close to real, yeah | 15:44 |
| fabiog | eglynn: good bunch ;-) | 15:44 |
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| eglynn | so the Friday meetup sounds like exactly the right place for such emergent discussions | 15:44 |
| eglynn | since we have the whole day, without the pressure of time-boxing | 15:45 |
| eglynn | one question that came up earlier in the week on http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/ceilometer | 15:45 |
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| eglynn | since the cross-project track is now including a notifications session also http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/0b6e7e23da3d4fdcdc5cec0777b92c6a | 15:46 |
| eglynn | i.e. whether we need a ceilo-specific one as well | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, I've seen this as well, already mathced I'll got there... | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | probably we don't need our own session here | 15:47 |
| DinaBelova | and we may give it to something else left in our gTable? some lucky looser? :) | 15:47 |
| eglynn | well jd__ will be leading both sessions, he reckoned the ceilo-specific one would give us a chance to discuss in more detail | 15:47 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, well, this will work as well :) | 15:48 |
| eglynn | TBH it would have been better if the corss-project track was finalized by the TC at the same time as the project tracks | 15:48 |
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| eglynn | anyone else got anything on summit to discuss? | 15:52 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, nope from my side | 15:52 |
| eglynn | #topic Open discussion | 15:53 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: I am working on preparing the mid-cycle meetup, can you please tell me when historically happened in the fall cycle? Late Jan? | 15:54 |
| eglynn | fabiog: great question! ... we've actually only ever one ceilo midcycle (Paris last July) | 15:55 |
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| DinaBelova | fabiog, hehe, great news :) where actually? :) | 15:55 |
| fabiog | eglynn: HP is happy to host it this time and I even can provide a choice of venues | 15:55 |
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| fabiog | DinaBelova: Sunnyvale, CA or Galway, IR | 15:56 |
| fabiog | Ireland | 15:56 |
| eglynn | fabiog: excellent! ... I think late Jan / early Feb would be close to the midpoint | 15:56 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: let's finalize the dates at the summit, so I can start the organization machine ;-) | 15:57 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: cool, thanks! | 15:57 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: my pleasure | 15:57 |
| eglynn | fabiog: BTW note the agenda item for the joint TC/board meeting | 15:58 |
| eglynn | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/2Nov2014JointMeeting | 15:58 |
| eglynn | "mid cycle meetups - is there a way to reduce travel strain?" ... LOL :) | 15:58 |
| eglynn | someone's travel budget is getting strained methinks! | 15:58 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: that's why I asked my management to propose an European location as well ... I guess you can drive to Galway :-) | 15:59 |
| eglynn | fabiog: I can cycle to Galway if needed :) | 15:59 |
| russellb | meetup in galway? ooh, sounds fun | 16:00 |
| fabiog | eglynn: there you go | 16:00 |
| eglynn | russellb: yeap, /me is warming to that idea! :) | 16:00 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: I guess you can stop from time to time for some "dark fuel" ... Guinness | 16:00 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: oh yes, indeed, fueling will be required :) ... the local craft beer is good http://www.galwaybaybrewery.com/ | 16:01 |
| eglynn | right-o, we're outta time | 16:02 |
| eglynn | thanks folks for a productive meeting! | 16:02 |
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| gordc | laters | 16:02 |
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| eglynn | ... and happy travels for those attending summit | 16:02 |
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| fabiog | ciao | 16:02 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 30 16:02:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-10-30-15.01.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-10-30-15.01.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-10-30-15.01.log.html | 16:02 |
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| sgordon_ | >.> | 16:03 |
| sgordon_ | <.< | 16:03 |
| russellb | \o/ | 16:03 |
| cgoncalves | o/ | 16:03 |
| sgordon_ | #startmeeting nfv | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 30 16:03:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| sgordon_ | #topic roll call | 16:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 16:03 |
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| * sgordon_ is here | 16:04 | |
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| sgordon_ | was hoping ijw might be around today | 16:04 |
| sgordon_ | anyone else here for the nfv meeting? | 16:04 |
| gmatefi | o/ | 16:04 |
| russellb | o/ | 16:04 |
| r-mibu | Hi! | 16:04 |
| beagles | o/ | 16:04 |
| smazziotta | O/ | 16:05 |
| mkashyap | Hello | 16:05 |
| sgordon_ | hey all | 16:05 |
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| yamahata | hi | 16:05 |
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| SridharRamaswamy | new here, super interested in nfv | 16:05 |
| sgordon_ | #topic paris bof scheduling | 16:05 |
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| sgordon_ | so we discussed last week | 16:05 |
| sgordon_ | there was a proposal on user-committee list about forming a telco working group | 16:05 |
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| sgordon_ | i highlighted the existing group to the organizers and attempted to clarify | 16:06 |
| sgordon_ | as it appears there was some confusion about our goals/scope etc | 16:06 |
| sgordon_ | my suggestion at the moment is that we meet at the ops summit session: | 16:06 |
| sgordon_ | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/b3ccf1464e335b703fc126f068142792 | 16:06 |
| sgordon_ | #info ops summit session for telco | 16:06 |
| sgordon_ | there are also some pertinent design summit sessions to get to (of course) | 16:06 |
| sgordon_ | but this seems like the best venue to assemble all the relevant parties | 16:07 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-summit-ops-telco | 16:07 |
| sgordon_ | #info etherpad to help frame the session | 16:07 |
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| sgordon_ | #info Thursday 9am - 10:30 @ Hyatt - Batignolles (Hyatt Hotel) | 16:08 |
| sgordon_ | thoughts, comments? | 16:08 |
| sgordon_ | i suggested the above to the OPNFV community as well | 16:08 |
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| sgordon_ | #info silence indicates an emphatic OK SEE YOU THERE ;) | 16:10 |
| sgordon_ | #topic vlan trunking | 16:10 |
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| sgordon_ | bare with me while i dig up the meeting minutes | 16:11 |
| russellb | fwiw, i think getting together at that session sounds like a great plan | 16:11 |
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| sgordon_ | ok for some reason i cant find the correct link for this week's neutron minutes | 16:11 |
| sgordon_ | but we had a discussion about vlan trunking | 16:12 |
| sgordon_ | marun and some other cores expressed concern that there are still multiple competing use cases | 16:12 |
| sgordon_ | and that they are not documented in the specs themselves | 16:12 |
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| sgordon_ | ian doesnt appear to be here today but we resolved to try and catch up around the neutron sessions to resolve this | 16:12 |
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| sgordon_ | there has also been some good discussion on the mailing list | 16:13 |
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| sgordon_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/047548.html | 16:13 |
| sgordon_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048957.html | 16:13 |
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| bauzas | o/ | 16:13 |
| sgordon_ | #info vlan trunking needs further discussion @ summit, expansion of use case information in specifications | 16:14 |
| bauzas | (sorry had a IRC issue, probably netsplit) | 16:14 |
| sgordon_ | #topic NFVImpact | 16:14 |
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| sgordon_ | semi-related | 16:14 |
| sgordon_ | some of the proposals still had this tag in them | 16:14 |
| sgordon_ | it needs to be removed | 16:14 |
| bauzas | sgordon_: agreed | 16:14 |
| sgordon_ | #info Please do not use the NFVImpact tag, tracking of NFV related BPs is via the wiki page. | 16:15 |
| sgordon_ | #topic Other design summit sessions | 16:15 |
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| sgordon_ | #info Design summit schedule is a little more free form to try and capture the spirit of the mid cycles | 16:15 |
| sgordon_ | there are a couple of design summit sessions that will be of interest, i already mentioned the ops summit session but also | 16:16 |
| sgordon_ | #info Nova NFV session on Wed. afternoon | 16:16 |
| sgordon_ | #info Neutron lightning talks will be used to frame discussion for Friday | 16:16 |
| sgordon_ | you will see in the schedule the neutron, and i think nova as well, friday is a free form contributors meetup | 16:17 |
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| sgordon_ | so expect a lot of discussion to happen in those based on what comes up earlier in the week | 16:17 |
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| sgordon_ | i am not going to dump all the links but i put some highlights in the minutes: | 16:17 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 16:17 |
| sgordon_ | full schedule is of course here: | 16:17 |
| sgordon_ | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org | 16:17 |
| sgordon_ | ok | 16:18 |
| sgordon_ | #topic Relationship to OPNFV | 16:18 |
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| sgordon_ | i added this to the list | 16:18 |
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| sgordon_ | i happened to step in as a proxy to an OPNFV technical meeting this week | 16:18 |
| sgordon_ | and the topic of how members of that community should work with those of us in the openstack community came up | 16:19 |
| sgordon_ | i dont really expect to resolve this today other than to suggest that the more the merrier | 16:19 |
| sgordon_ | but just wanted to highlight it | 16:19 |
| sgordon_ | anyone who found us via OPNFV here today? | 16:19 |
| cgoncalves | I'm a member of the OPNFV project | 16:20 |
| niclem | might be interesting to bridge OPNFV project? | 16:20 |
| niclem | IPv6 | 16:20 |
| niclem | Resource MAnagement | 16:20 |
| niclem | CI | 16:21 |
| russellb | working with this group makes a lot of sense | 16:21 |
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| niclem | https://wiki.opnfv.org/ipv6-enabled_vanilla_opnfv | 16:21 |
| russellb | those that show up here either know a lot about particular features, or can get people pointed in the right direction | 16:21 |
| niclem | https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/resource_management | 16:21 |
| russellb | not sure if we need to identify a set of liasons or anything, but i'd be happy to be one | 16:21 |
| niclem | https://wiki.opnfv.org/continuous_integration_ci | 16:22 |
| russellb | IPv6 is well underway in openstack, so that's good | 16:22 |
| sgordon_ | what we had discussed/hoped for is direct engagement i think versus formal liasons | 16:22 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/ipv6-enabled_vanilla_opnfv | 16:22 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/resource_management | 16:22 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/continuous_integration_ci | 16:22 |
| russellb | sgordon_: sure, that makes sense / is ideal | 16:22 |
| sgordon_ | because per the links nick is pasting there is a lot of overlap with existing openstack efforts or goals | 16:23 |
| russellb | yes | 16:23 |
| russellb | very much so | 16:23 |
| niclem | The challenge on OPNFV panel seems to be translation of requirements in OSS work items | 16:23 |
| sgordon_ | it's about bringing everyone together to drive those to completion | 16:23 |
| cgoncalves | #info https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/doctor_fault_mangement_and_maintenance | 16:23 |
| russellb | niclem: that translation is basically the primary deliverable of this group / what we've been working through | 16:23 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/requirements_projects/doctor_fault_mangement_and_maintenance | 16:23 |
| sgordon_ | right | 16:24 |
| russellb | so yeah, we should work together :) | 16:24 |
| sgordon_ | i see translation as actually what we aim to assist with | 16:24 |
| russellb | yup | 16:24 |
| sgordon_ | what we need more help with is documenting the compelling use cases | 16:24 |
| sgordon_ | to then get acceptance of those proposals | 16:24 |
| niclem | @russellb: yes | 16:24 |
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| niclem | but maybe people here should also get engaged in these meeting @ opnfv | 16:24 |
| sgordon_ | arguably that's why this discussion is happening | 16:25 |
| sgordon_ | but i think from an openstack perspective | 16:25 |
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| sgordon_ | the way to drive things in openstack, is from within | 16:25 |
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| russellb | agree, sgordon_ | 16:26 |
| sgordon_ | even this group is arguably one removed from ideal versus to discussing directly in project meetings | 16:26 |
| russellb | here we work on the mappings | 16:26 |
| sgordon_ | but i think it is close enough to that while trying to provide a venue for non-developers to contribute | 16:26 |
| russellb | once we have the mappings, needs to move to project specific discussions | 16:26 |
| russellb | is how i look at it, i think | 16:27 |
| sgordon_ | +1 | 16:27 |
| russellb | mapping, and general tracking | 16:27 |
| smazziotta | +1 | 16:27 |
| sgordon_ | i think this will be something we revisit in that ops summit session | 16:27 |
| sgordon_ | to confirm everyone is on the same page | 16:27 |
| russellb | good idea | 16:27 |
| sgordon_ | i have put it in the etherpad to try and help frame that session | 16:27 |
| sgordon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-summit-ops-telco | 16:27 |
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| sgordon_ | #info Expect further discussion in Ops Summit session on engagement model, goals, mission | 16:28 |
| sgordon_ | #info Aim is currently to provide mappings of use cases to requirements to blueprint proposals | 16:28 |
| sgordon_ | #info Remain close as possible to development community to drive from within OpenStack community, not externally. | 16:29 |
| sgordon_ | #topic Open Discussion | 16:30 |
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| sgordon_ | i didnt have anything further for today | 16:30 |
| sgordon_ | any volunteers? | 16:30 |
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| sgordon_ | actually something i did want to raise | 16:30 |
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| sgordon_ | IPV6 was mentioned, and great work has been done on neutron on this | 16:31 |
| sgordon_ | how do we raise/track requirements for the next step | 16:31 |
| russellb | would be good to do an eval of current state, and what's missing | 16:31 |
| sgordon_ | e.g. confirming all services work with IPV6 endpoints for example | 16:31 |
| russellb | i'm sure it's all perfect | 16:31 |
| sgordon_ | inorite | 16:31 |
| niclem | there is this blog http://techs.enovance.com/7199/journey-of-ipv6-in-openstack | 16:31 |
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| russellb | niclem: nice! | 16:32 |
| niclem | ;) | 16:32 |
| sgordon_ | the blog is still very neutron focused | 16:32 |
| sgordon_ | is what im trying to hit on here | 16:32 |
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| sgordon_ | there is likely some cross project work to hit that im not sure is covered by existing efforts | 16:32 |
| russellb | good point | 16:33 |
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| sgordon_ | #link http://techs.enovance.com/7199/journey-of-ipv6-in-openstack | 16:33 |
| russellb | not sure i've ever seen references to using ipv6 api endpoints | 16:33 |
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| sgordon_ | my concern is cross-project work | 16:33 |
| sgordon_ | typically proves challenging | 16:33 |
| sgordon_ | yeah | 16:33 |
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| russellb | on a somewhat related note, for kilo we have a new specs repo for cross project specs | 16:33 |
| russellb | that is owned by the TC | 16:33 |
| russellb | we're hoping to improve review of cross project efforts | 16:34 |
| russellb | to help with some of the problems we've seen | 16:34 |
| russellb | where one side is waiting for the other | 16:34 |
| russellb | and we deadlock | 16:34 |
| sgordon_ | #info cross project specs repo exists for kilo, owned by TC, for use for efforts that cross all projects | 16:34 |
| sgordon_ | right | 16:34 |
| sgordon_ | anyway i just thought i'd raise it | 16:34 |
| russellb | raise away good sir! | 16:34 |
| sgordon_ | i am sure ipv6 will be discussed in some form on the neutron track | 16:34 |
| sgordon_ | im just wondering about how far it needs to spread beyond that to get end to end | 16:35 |
| russellb | yes. | 16:35 |
| russellb | :) | 16:35 |
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| sgordon_ | anyone else? | 16:36 |
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| r-mibu | If we have time, I'd like to introduce OPNFV projects briefly in NFV Ops session | 16:36 |
| r-mibu | who is organizing the session? | 16:36 |
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| sgordon_ | i believe at the moment carol barrett from intel, andrew mitry from comcast, and myself | 16:38 |
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| sgordon_ | typically these sessions are fairly free form rather than a presentation as such | 16:38 |
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| sgordon_ | we have an item in the etherpad about relationship to other groups (incl. OPNFV) | 16:38 |
| sgordon_ | so typically when we reach it we would have an open discussion in the room | 16:39 |
| sgordon_ | you could consider adding some items under it on the etherpad to frame that discussion though | 16:39 |
| r-mibu | ok, thanks | 16:39 |
| sgordon_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-summit-ops-telco | 16:39 |
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| russellb | moderated discussion | 16:39 |
| russellb | is a good description of what to expect | 16:39 |
| sgordon_ | effectively the organizers just moderate | 16:39 |
| sgordon_ | yeah that | 16:39 |
| russellb | and everyone is welcome to speak up | 16:40 |
| russellb | so if you want to speak, sit as close to the front as you can | 16:40 |
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| russellb | or you'll have a harder time | 16:40 |
| sgordon_ | but not so close that you dont get a power point | 16:40 |
| sgordon_ | ;p | 16:40 |
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| r-mibu | some folks will join the summit from OPNFV, so we should moderate topics in OPNFV team first | 16:41 |
| smazziotta | when and where is the OPNFV summit ? | 16:42 |
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| russellb | not sure i understand that last comment, tbh.. | 16:42 |
| cgoncalves | smazziotta: OPNFV summit? I've no knowledge of such thing existing in a near future | 16:42 |
| r-mibu | i mean OPNFV members | 16:42 |
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| niclem | maybe this https://wiki.opnfv.org/hackfests/openstackparis2014 | 16:43 |
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| r-mibu | niclem yep | 16:43 |
| smazziotta | ok. is that the meetup as discussed on the opnfv mailing list ? | 16:44 |
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| sgordon_ | i guess my caution would be rather than trying to moderate topics internally first | 16:47 |
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| sgordon_ | it's better to come to the community meeting and have an open discussion there | 16:47 |
| sgordon_ | just my 2c | 16:47 |
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| r-mibu | yes, will post to opnfv mailing list first | 16:48 |
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| r-mibu | thanks | 16:49 |
| sgordon_ | ok | 16:49 |
| sgordon_ | if that's all for today.... | 16:49 |
| russellb | thanks! | 16:49 |
| sgordon_ | #info no IRC meeting next week (Paris Summit!) | 16:49 |
| russellb | see you all in paris. | 16:49 |
| sgordon_ | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 30 16:49:42 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-10-30-16.03.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-10-30-16.03.txt | 16:49 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-10-30-16.03.log.html | 16:49 |
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| cgoncalves | till next week in paris! cya | 16:50 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 30 22:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 22:00 |
| mtreinish | hi who's here today? | 22:00 |
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| masayukig | o/ | 22:00 |
| gmann | hi | 22:00 |
| dmorita | o/ | 22:00 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_October_30th_2014_.282200_UTC.29 | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ Today's agenda | 22:01 |
| stevebaker | \o | 22:01 |
| dstanek | o/ | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | ok, let's get started | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | #topic No meeting next week (mtreinish) | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "No meeting next week (mtreinish) (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:02 | |
| mtreinish | so obviously there is not going to be a meeting next week because of summit | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | but I figured that I'd put it on the agenda anyway | 22:02 |
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| dmorita | ok | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | I'll also be on vacation the week after summit so I was hoping someone would volunteer to run the meeting | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | if everyone still wants to have one, we can just skip 2 weeks too | 22:03 |
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| masayukig | sorry, I can't attend the meeting. | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | heh, well I guess we'll just skip 2 weeks then :) | 22:04 |
| dmorita | probably, no problem | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | #info next meeting to be Nov 20th at 1700utc | 22:04 |
| mtreinish | ok let's move on then | 22:04 |
| gmann | yes. no issue | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 22:05 |
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| mtreinish | ok, does anyone have any open blueprints they'd like to discuss | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | or give a status update on | 22:05 |
| gmann | mtreinish: Testing Nova V2.1 NP- | 22:05 |
| gmann | NP-> BP - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96661/ | 22:06 |
| gmann | I have re updated spec, can you please have look | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | gmann: ok I'll take a look, but I want to avoid what we did for v3 which is adding tests for an unstable api | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | but it should just be the same tests right? | 22:06 |
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| gmann | yes, idea is to share same V2 tests for V2.1 | 22:07 |
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| gmann | there might be some difference which we need to take care for V2.1 due to extra response attribute in response | 22:07 |
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| gmann | and strict input validation | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | gmann: hmm, I think we should try to avoid the dual test copy thing we were doing with v3. If we can make the v2 tests pass on both with just a little tweaking that would be best | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | because then we could just have an experimental job which just changed the catalog name in config | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | but I'll read the spec and comment there | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96661/ | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | oh, I guess that still has a -2 from the v3 | 22:09 |
| gmann | mtreinish: yes, tests case will be same as V2. with some tweak due to diff in V2 & V2.1 API | 22:09 |
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| mtreinish | ok, does anyone else have a bp to bring up? | 22:11 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf did ask me to mention the resource-cleanup bp | 22:11 |
| mtreinish | he's got his framework patch up here: | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/115353 | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | and he wanted extra opinions on his discussion about it with gmann | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | so if everyone could take a look and provide feedback I think that would help with moving this forward | 22:12 |
| masayukig | ok, I'll have a look. | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | masayukig: thanks | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | ok if there aren't any other bps to discuss I guess we can move on | 22:13 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 22:14 |
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| mtreinish | so dtroyer said he wasn't able to make it today because he's travelling to Paris (or already there) | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | so does anyone have anything to discuss about devstack? otherwise we'll move on | 22:14 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 22:15 |
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| mtreinish | ok same story here, so does anyone have anything to discuss about grenade? | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | jogo: ^^^ | 22:16 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 22:17 |
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| mtreinish | gmann: ok, how's the bug backlog look this week? | 22:17 |
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| gmann | currently new bugs count is 6 - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | ooh, single digits that's good | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | how many of those 6 were filed this week? | 22:18 |
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| gmann | i think 1 | 22:19 |
| gmann | other are previous week one | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | oh, ok | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | well that's still pretty good, now I guess we just need to work through the open bugs since we seem to have a handle on the new ones | 22:20 |
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| gmann | we are going good to keeping new bug count down. but i think we need to start looking into open bug too | 22:20 |
| gmann | +1 | 22:21 |
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| mtreinish | ok, is there anything else on bugs? | 22:21 |
| gmann | nothing from my side | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | oh, I guess I can advertise: | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1386782 | 22:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1386782 in tempest "tempest-lib migration script generates incorrect sha1s" [High,Triaged] | 22:22 |
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| mtreinish | which is something I found the other day | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | I don't have time to fix it, but if someone else wanted to work on it shouldn't be too difficult | 22:22 |
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| mtreinish | ok does anyone else have something to discuss about open bugs for any project? | 22:23 |
| mtreinish | *any qa project | 22:23 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 22:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:24 | |
| mtreinish | ok, does anyone have an open code review they'd like to get extra eyes on? | 22:24 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/131906 | 22:25 |
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| mtreinish | that should be a pretty simple fix to review | 22:25 |
| mtreinish | anyone else? | 22:26 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87191/ | 22:26 |
| gmann | pending since long time | 22:26 |
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| mtreinish | yeah, I was just going to say it's been a while since I've seen a review number in the 80000s | 22:27 |
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| gmann | :) | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | ok, if there aren't any other reviews I guess I'll open the floor | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | there was another agenda topic, but I talked to yfried earlier about it | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | and we're going to hold that until after summit, because there will be discussion of that there | 22:29 |
| stevebaker | It would be good if some QA folk could come to the heat testing summit session Wed 13:50 http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/eb261fb08b18ec1eaa2c67492e7fc385#.VFK6cXV7jUZ | 22:29 |
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| mtreinish | stevebaker: sure, I'll try to be there | 22:29 |
| stevebaker | we'll cover integration/functional tests first, so you can be released into the wild before the end of the session | 22:30 |
| stevebaker | mtreinish: cool, thanks | 22:30 |
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| mtreinish | oh, on summit | 22:30 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: i also had discussion with yfried and suggested more discussion as scale down large ops test would be good option | 22:30 |
| mtreinish | for those who have sessions can you make sure you put an etherpad up here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Kilo/Etherpads#QA | 22:30 |
| gmann | * would not | 22:31 |
| dmorita | Ok. I will open today. | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | dmorita: ok, thanks | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | gmann: yeah, it's really just to test the internals of nova that's why it uses the fake virt driver | 22:32 |
| mtreinish | it doesn't really belong in tempest either | 22:32 |
| mtreinish | which is why I said we should wait until after summit | 22:32 |
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| gmann | ya | 22:32 |
| dstanek | hey all, i'm lurking today, but wanted to say that i've signed up to the the QA liason for Keystone | 22:32 |
| mtreinish | dstanek: oh, ok awesome | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | so we'll come looking for you now when there are keystone issues :) | 22:33 |
| dstanek | sounds good | 22:33 |
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| jun_xie_1 | Hi,Guys, i would like to take a sec. I am new here in this group and I would work on Tempest-related staff from recently | 22:34 |
| dstanek | i have a few QA sessions on my schedule for the summit. are there any that i really should be attending to stay up to date? | 22:34 |
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| mtreinish | dstanek: probably the tempest scope one and tempest-lib. Also, dmorita's tempest auth session has obvious overlap :) | 22:35 |
| mtreinish | jun_xie_1: sure, what did you want to discuss? | 22:35 |
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| jun_xie_1 | oh i am still trying to get a little familiar with this process and dont have any to discuss , just want to say nice meeting you guys and working with you guys in the future. | 22:36 |
| jun_xie_1 | thanks | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | jun_xie_1: oh, ok. Hi then :) | 22:37 |
| jun_xie_1 | :) | 22:37 |
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| mtreinish | ok, does anyone else have anything to discuss? | 22:37 |
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| dmorita | qa meetup is held at am and pm on friday. | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | dmorita: yes, that's right | 22:38 |
| dmorita | There is no difference between them? | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | dmorita: nope, it's just a reserved room for the whole day | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | similar to what we did in Germany | 22:38 |
| dmorita | OK. i will join pm. | 22:39 |
| dmorita | because swift meetup is held at am | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | we'll also be sharing the space with infra, and relmgt (which is basically ttx I think) | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | dmorita: ok, sure | 22:39 |
| dstanek | mtreinish: can't go to tempest-lib because it's during a keystone session - but i'll be at the other ones - thanks | 22:39 |
| dmorita | :) | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | ok, if that's everything I guess we'll end early | 22:40 |
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| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 22:40 |
| masayukig | thanks | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | see you in paris | 22:40 |
| dmorita | see you at paris | 22:40 |
| jun_xie_1 | thanks and see u | 22:40 |
| gmann | thanks all, have a great summit :) | 22:40 |
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| masayukig | see you there | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 22:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 30 22:41:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:41 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-10-30-22.00.html | 22:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-10-30-22.00.txt | 22:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-10-30-22.00.log.html | 22:41 |
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