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| Daisy | Who is around for i18n meeting? | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | We will start now. | 08:00 |
| anish__ | Hi Daisy ! | 08:00 |
| ujuc | o/ | 08:00 |
| epico | hi, Daisy | 08:00 |
| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 08:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 08:00 |
| Daisy | Hello, everyone. | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | Welcome to I18n meeting. | 08:00 |
| Daisy | It's our first meeting in 2015. | 08:00 |
| Daisy | Hope we could make a great 2015 together. | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Our first topic is: | 08:01 |
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| Daisy | #topic Status update of document translations | 08:01 |
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| Daisy | In our meeting on Dec 4th, we decided to work in api-ref & hot-reference | 08:02 |
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| Daisy | I would like to collect if there are any issues with the translations of these two documents. | 08:02 |
| Daisy | ujuc? | 08:02 |
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| ujuc | ?? | 08:03 |
| Daisy | ujuc: do you have any issues with the translations of api-ref & hot-reference? | 08:03 |
| ujuc | no... :) | 08:03 |
| Daisy | ok. nice. | 08:03 |
| ujuc | :) | 08:03 |
| Daisy | which one are you working on? | 08:03 |
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| Daisy | api-ref or hot-reference? | 08:03 |
| ujuc | api-ref :) | 08:04 |
| Daisy | ok. Thanks. | 08:04 |
| Daisy | I'm working on this one too. | 08:04 |
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| Daisy | Thank you for the update. | 08:04 |
| ujuc | :) | 08:04 |
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| Daisy | Because there are only two coordinators here, we finish this topic very quick. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | Let's move to next. | 08:05 |
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| Daisy | #topic integration of zanata with stackalytics | 08:05 |
| Daisy | anish__: what do you want to discuss here? | 08:05 |
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| anish__ | Daisy, i have few questions regarding UI of stackalytics and API's of zanata | 08:06 |
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| anish__ | first how would you prefer UI of stackalytics? | 08:07 |
| Daisy | I prefer a similar style of the current UI. | 08:07 |
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| anish__ | as per last discussion we will add translation in metric field | 08:07 |
| Daisy | Do we have ways to customize UI ? | 08:07 |
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| Daisy | Yes, agree. | 08:07 |
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| Daisy | I think if we add translation in metric field, we will have a new page, right? | 08:08 |
| anish__ | yes | 08:08 |
| anish__ | then after selection of translation metric, user will get contribution by companies,modules | 08:09 |
| Daisy | Yes, it looks like that. | 08:09 |
| anish__ | and then,Company : Translations | 08:09 |
| anish__ | langugage approved,under review,translated | 08:09 |
| Daisy | We will have: Contribution by companies, modules, engineers | 08:09 |
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| Daisy | I don't know how to add "approved,under review,translated" | 08:10 |
| anish__ | we can list it under company, "approved,under review,translated" | 08:11 |
| Daisy | In my mind, the only way to add "approved,under review,translated" is to add 3 metrics: approved translation, reviewed translation, | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | Could we do that? | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | Could we have a customized UI? not like other metrics? | 08:11 |
| anish__ | customized UI means? | 08:12 |
| Daisy | list it under company, "approved,under review,translated" | 08:12 |
| Daisy | I see all the metrics have similar web pages to display: contributions by ... | 08:12 |
| anish__ | yeah similarly we can show these language metrics | 08:13 |
| Daisy | It looks like there are several blocks in each page of a metrics. Like, in the metrics of "review", I could see three blocks: contribution by companies, contribution by modules, contribution by engineers. | 08:13 |
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| anish__ | yeah that what i was talking about | 08:14 |
| Daisy | Each block has a pie chart, and a list. | 08:14 |
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| Daisy | I don't know where you could add "approved,under review,translated". | 08:15 |
| anish__ | so what we want to have for translation matric? | 08:15 |
| Daisy | Maybe we only use "translated" | 08:15 |
| Daisy | How do you think of it? | 08:16 |
| anish__ | you mean Meric name will be translated? | 08:16 |
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| Daisy | The name is translation, which means: translated. | 08:17 |
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| Daisy | After we add this metrics, we could add "approved" and "reviewed" in the future. | 08:17 |
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| Daisy | I also don't think we need "modules". We need: contributions of companies, translation teams, and translations. | 08:18 |
| anish__ | what i get is under translation metric we will get approved and reviewed under company,user,module section | 08:18 |
| Daisy | what do you mean? | 08:19 |
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| Daisy | I didn't get your point. | 08:19 |
| anish__ | contribution by module means, e.g nova is 50% translated | 08:19 |
| Daisy | I know. | 08:19 |
| anish__ | okay i got your point | 08:20 |
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| Daisy | I don't think "contribution by module means" is that necessary. But if it's easy to implement, we could keep it. | 08:20 |
| anish__ | so we need contribution from companies and users | 08:20 |
| Daisy | and language team, also we don't know how to implement this. | 08:21 |
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| Daisy | and language team, although we don't know how to implement this. | 08:21 |
| anish__ | yeah | 08:21 |
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| Daisy | I know clearly which module has the big percentage: horizon. | 08:22 |
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| anish__ | thanks, currently zanata provides API's which requires credentials | 08:22 |
| anish__ | so I think just like launchpad API's for statistical API's, it should not require it | 08:23 |
| anish__ | what do you think | 08:23 |
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| Daisy | Our translators don't work on other modules intentionally, like nova and glace, , because they are not high priority. That's why the "by modules" doesn't make much sense for me. | 08:24 |
| anish__ | okay got it | 08:24 |
| Daisy | you want a kind of API that don't need credentials? | 08:24 |
| anish__ | all statistical API's which are required for stack | 08:25 |
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| anish__ | the thing about zanata credentials is first you need to register in zanata as user and it would provide you API key to access zanata API's | 08:26 |
| Daisy | you want query APIs of Zanata without credentials? | 08:26 |
| anish__ | yeah | 08:26 |
| Daisy | why don't you like credentials? | 08:26 |
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| Daisy | If that's our requirements, we need to have strong reasons to persuade Zanata team. | 08:27 |
| anish__ | because you need to store these credentials in a file | 08:27 |
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| Daisy | how many credentials do you need ? | 08:28 |
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| Daisy | isn't there a call to get credentials by user id and password? | 08:28 |
| anish__ | Nope | 08:28 |
| anish__ | another thing is zanata provides API that gives statistical information for particular user in a project | 08:29 |
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| Daisy | how about we require Zanata to provide a API to get credentials. Then we could store credentials in program, not in a file. | 08:30 |
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| anish__ | for that we need to know users/translators associated with particular project | 08:31 |
| Daisy | do we have APIs to know that? | 08:31 |
| anish__ | Nope we need that API as well | 08:31 |
| Daisy | OK. | 08:31 |
| Daisy | Anything else you want to change the APIs? | 08:31 |
| anish__ | yeah and last thing is | 08:32 |
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| anish__ | http://www.fpaste.org/169913/42131072/ | 08:32 |
| anish__ | this will be the response we would get from Zanata server | 08:33 |
| anish__ | according to our last meeting | 08:33 |
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| anish__ | it would be better if we get response in JSON format like, "username": "name"{ "lang":{ }} | 08:34 |
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| anish__ | just not the data | 08:34 |
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| Daisy | Help me to recall the last meeting. | 08:35 |
| Daisy | "username": "name"{ "lang":{ }} | 08:35 |
| Daisy | what does "name" mean, here? | 08:35 |
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| Daisy | The response message you showed has "username" and "lang", am I right? | 08:35 |
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| Daisy | The only missed information I could tell is "name", am I right? | 08:36 |
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| anish__ | according to Carlos we will get response in http://www.fpaste.org/169913/42131072/ | 08:36 |
| anish__ | but its just a data | 08:36 |
| anish__ | it does not contain any information about the data | 08:36 |
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| anish__ | generally JSON responses come with "signifies about the data":"then data" | 08:37 |
| Daisy | I think, it means: myusername has contributed 65 words which are "needReview", 67 words which are translated. | 08:38 |
| Daisy | OK. I don't know about signifies . | 08:38 |
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| Daisy | I could write an email to Carlos with all of your requirements. | 08:39 |
| Daisy | For your first two requirements, I understand and I would support. | 08:39 |
| Daisy | The last one, I could not understand that much. | 08:39 |
| anish__ | okay thanks I will talk to him | 08:39 |
| anish__ | first I wanted to talk to you so that I would not miss anything | 08:40 |
| Daisy | If there is no signifies , but there are some oral (or documented) explanation about meanings, are you satisfied? | 08:40 |
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| anish__ | yeah thanks | 08:41 |
| Daisy | Do you want me to send Carlos an email? | 08:41 |
| Daisy | about these requirements? | 08:41 |
| anish__ | No I will send him an email | 08:41 |
| anish__ | or directly talk to him | 08:42 |
| Daisy | OK. Good. | 08:42 |
| Daisy | Thank you very much for taking care of these. | 08:42 |
| anish__ | thanks you as well | 08:43 |
| Daisy | I don't understand web development very much. I have to depend on you. | 08:43 |
| Daisy | Thank you, anish__ . | 08:43 |
| anish__ | thanks, I am trying to get it done asap | 08:43 |
| Daisy | OK. | 08:44 |
| Daisy | #topic open discussions | 08:44 |
| Daisy | Anything else to talk about? | 08:44 |
| Daisy | If no, I will close the meeting now. | 08:45 |
| Daisy | Thank you all for attending. | 08:45 |
| ujuc | thanks | 08:45 |
| ujuc | :) | 08:45 |
| anish__ | thanks! | 08:45 |
| Daisy | Thank you, ujuc, anish__ and epico . | 08:45 |
| epico | thanks | 08:45 |
| Daisy | Talk to you next time. | 08:45 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 08:45 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 08:45:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/openstack_i18n_meeting.2015-01-15-08.00.html | 08:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/openstack_i18n_meeting.2015-01-15-08.00.txt | 08:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/openstack_i18n_meeting.2015-01-15-08.00.log.html | 08:46 |
| ujuc | happy new year! :) | 08:46 |
| anish__ | Happy New Year !! | 08:46 |
| epico | Happy New Year !! | 08:46 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 15:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:00 |
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| DinaBelova | o/ | 15:00 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 15:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | hello | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | hey folks | 15:01 |
| eglynn | #topic Kilo-2 status | 15:01 |
| nealph | g'morning | 15:01 |
| mesterm | morning | 15:01 |
| eglynn | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:01 |
| _elena_ | o/ | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | we've made some progress in landing specs reviews | 15:01 |
| eglynn | still a couple of BPs marked as blocked though | 15:02 |
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| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:02 |
| yeungp | o/ | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | ceilometermiddleware has a +2 on https://review.openstack.org/142129 so should land soon | 15:02 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, hm there is one bug with my +2 - waiting for more cores https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1372442 | 15:03 |
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| DinaBelova | somehow I though it was already landed | 15:03 |
| DinaBelova | thought* | 15:03 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: cool, I'll look after meeting | 15:03 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, thanks | 15:03 |
| eglynn | might have to bump https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/instance-autorestart if there's not more traction on it soon-ish | 15:03 |
| eglynn | nealph: were you gonna to file a BP for the DB pipeline config part 1? | 15:04 |
| eglynn | nealph: ... IIRC we discussed splitting this over kilo-2 and kilo-3 last week | 15:04 |
| nealph | eglynn: sorry, I thought https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store was sufficient? | 15:05 |
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| eglynn | nealph: cool, thanks! | 15:05 |
| nealph | eglynn: added the linked https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/configdb-api | 15:05 |
| nealph | as discussed. | 15:05 |
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| nealph | for the k3 work. | 15:05 |
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| eglynn | nealph: excellent thanks ... it was just missing the targeting to kilo-2, done now | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | nealph, a-ha, as I remember you've discussed the work to be done as a part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/configdb-api with idegtiarov | 15:06 |
| nealph | eglynn: my launchpad skillz are negligible...let me know if I need to do additiona. | 15:06 |
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| DinaBelova | nealph, let's I guess assign it to idegtiarov? | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: the config API work assigned to be to idegtiarov? | 15:07 |
| nealph | eglynn: DinaBelova: let's hold off, I think fabiog and I need to chat offline on that... | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, at least idegtiarov and nealph had the discussion (succeded as far as I remember) about it | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova | nealph, ok | 15:07 |
| eglynn | nealph: cool | 15:07 |
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| DinaBelova | it looks like I got it wrong a little bit | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 15:08 |
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| nealph | DinaBelova: no, no, I think I jumped the gun on that. my fault. | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | nealph, np :) | 15:08 |
| eglynn | cool, anything else on kilo-2? | 15:09 |
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| cdent | gabbi stuff is pending acceptance into global requirements but that seems likely by the endof this week | 15:09 |
| eglynn | cdent: excellent :) | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | #topic gnocchi update | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | interesting thread about gnocchi performance on the ML | 15:10 |
| eglynn | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054534.html | 15:10 |
| cdent | I think it's not clear to the casual observer that carbonara is a dev environment | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, the only issue with this thread (for me, at least) is the name of mail-sender :) | 15:11 |
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| DinaBelova | cdent, I guess the overall issue with gnocchi now is lack of up-to-date documentation | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova | with these moments described at well | 15:12 |
| jd__ | I'm a bit worried about the slow progress wrt Ceilometer integration | 15:12 |
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| jd__ | we didn't do what we talked about for k1 and k2 is approaching without much progress | 15:12 |
| cdent | jd__ makes very good points | 15:12 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: the documentation is up-to-date, but it might be incomplete :) | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, yeah, sorry :) | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | wrong words | 15:13 |
| jd__ | you stand corrected ;) | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | lol | 15:13 |
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| jd__ | other than that I'm pretty happy with the progress we made so far | 15:13 |
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| eglynn | jd__: I'll have a bit more time to contribute directly now that the juno-derived distro is mostly complete | 15:14 |
| jd__ | and I'm gonna make efforts the next months to bring more attention to Gnocchi in general | 15:14 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: you see me glad and happy to hear that | 15:14 |
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| DinaBelova | jd__ - I'm kind of still concerned with one moment I've probably mentioned before about gnocchi -> ceilo integration. It's kind of very useful to store history of changes somehow... | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova | and I see no simple way for doing this | 15:14 |
| eglynn | jd__: can we put together a list of high priority gnocchi tasks over the next week? | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova | (if we'll merge repos I mean) | 15:14 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: history of policy changes? | 15:15 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: git history do you mean? | 15:15 |
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| DinaBelova | gordc, I would way git history | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah | 15:15 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: I don't think merging repository is on the table righ tnow | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, I'm mostly about some future | 15:16 |
| jd__ | and I'm pretty sure now that it's not gonna happen | 15:16 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: the stackforge/gnocchi repo could continue to exist in a "frozen" state after any merge (as a "fossil record" of the history) | 15:16 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, well, yeah, probably | 15:16 |
| jd__ | there's like 0 point of merging an entire independant subsystem in a bigger one | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, well, if so, that's not the big deal | 15:17 |
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| DinaBelova | jd__, I just remember discussions about this before | 15:17 |
| eglynn | yeah, having multiple repos is less of an issue in my mind than having separate core teams | 15:17 |
| jd__ | right now the big deal is to make Gnocchi and Ceilometer work completely together, which is not yet done | 15:17 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: though we have separate core team in Oslo which is not a problem in the end | 15:18 |
| jd__ | but it's not a problem we have right now | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova | nellysmitt and idegtiarov are working on adding all resources (changes coming...) | 15:18 |
| eglynn | it would be good for more ceilo cores to get involved in gnocchi reviewing, at least, IMO | 15:18 |
| jd__ | DinaBelova: ah good to know, I didn't | 15:18 |
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| DinaBelova | jd__, well, they had lots of testing env issues... | 15:19 |
| jd__ | eglynn: you said that ~2 months ago and that didn't happen, as I unfortunately expected :) | 15:19 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: was your OPW project topic finalized? | 15:19 |
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| gordc | eglynn: i sense a subtle hint there. | 15:19 |
| jd__ | I think we need to bring more attention on Gnocchi (and Ceilo) to have more people (even external to Ceilometer) starting to contribute | 15:19 |
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| eglynn | gordc: ... subtle, moi? ;) | 15:19 |
| * gordc will try to review today... was meaning to but got sidetracked. | 15:19 | |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, not yet - as I had long Xmas holidays it was frozen | 15:19 |
| nellysmitt | eglynn, no project topic yet | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | I found one really interesting task although | 15:19 |
| cdent | you're right, of course, jd__ but what if we've asked for time and haven't been able to getit? | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | with making new resource adding more openstacky to gnocchi | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, as now you need to go to 4 different places withough any stevedore, etc. to add new resource | 15:20 |
| jd__ | cdent: I'm not blaming anyone, don't read me wrong | 15:20 |
| eglynn | "more openstacky"? | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, do you think it's a nice something to be done for gnocchi? | 15:20 |
| cdent | Oh, I don't think you are, I'm saying that as a group we need to agitate up the hierarchy to inform them of the need. | 15:21 |
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| eglynn | "more openstacky" == "fitting in with the usual openstack idioms"? | 15:21 |
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| jd__ | cdent: I'm actually not expecting ceilometer-core to review gnocchi, I think I would have better change to bring people from the outside of OpenStack right now | 15:21 |
| cdent | So that the need can be seen to be relevant | 15:21 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, more openstacky == using logical things like stevedore, etc. | 15:21 |
| mesterm | Jd i plan on spending alot more time in the review of gnocchi -> ceil | 15:21 |
| eglynn | jd__: do you mean domain experts in metrics stroage? | 15:21 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... how about trying to get pauldix involved? | 15:22 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: pretty sure pauldix has other cats to whip, but I'd love to | 15:22 |
| jd__ | eglynn: no I mean people who would start using Gnocchi to store metrics and who would have interest in it in general | 15:22 |
| jd__ | you know, users who become developers, that's how FOSS work most of the time ;) | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, do you thing some gnocchi resource adding logic improvement like I've mentioned will be nice thing for Nelly to work with? | 15:23 |
| eglynn | jd__: ok | 15:23 |
| gordc | mesterm: sounds good. thanks for reviewing | 15:23 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: it would certainly be useful, but it there enough work for a 13-week internship? | 15:23 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, nope I suppose.... Although I don't have better ideas now | 15:24 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: how far thru' your 13 weeks are you now? | 15:24 |
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| nellysmitt | 1 month + 1 week | 15:24 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, it you have some it'll be really cool | 15:24 |
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| eglynn | so 9 weeks left, ok | 15:25 |
| nellysmitt | yeah, but I lost a lot of time solving issues | 15:25 |
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| nellysmitt | which were caused by hardware :( | 15:25 |
| eglynn | that's unfortunate | 15:25 |
| eglynn | BTW the final patches do not have to be landed within the internship period, as long as there's been good progress | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | the previous OPW intern for ceilo continued chipping away at her patches for a few months and finally got most of it landed | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I had also some idea about implementing driver for https://github.com/kairosdb/kairosdb | 15:26 |
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| DinaBelova | that's tsdb over cassandra | 15:26 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, althoguh that'll be going kind of really tricky | 15:27 |
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| eglynn | ok, that could be interesting, though we'd have to be careful about proliferation of drivers | 15:27 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, that's also the issue | 15:28 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: is there any more contained feature of the OpenTSDB driver that could be split off? | 15:28 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: I am working on some API and datastructure tweaks to improve batching greatly | 15:28 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... e.g. the kind of async expiry/downsampling logic you spoke about before? | 15:28 |
| eglynn | fabiog: cool | 15:28 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, python code is almost ok now, as for the retention/downsampling I was already working on it - and that's pure Java | 15:28 |
| fabiog | eglynn: I am planning to do a Google Hangout sometimes soon to check the approach is viable | 15:28 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: a-ha, ok | 15:29 |
| eglynn | fabiog: sounds interesting | 15:29 |
| fabiog | eglynn: and jd__ retention policies are per project/user combination | 15:29 |
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| fabiog | is that really necessary? what is the usecase of retaining a resource longer for a specific user within the same project? | 15:30 |
| jd__ | fabiog: API tweaks on Gnocchi? | 15:30 |
| eglynn | fabiog: you've lost me ... there's a single ArchivePolicy per Metric, no? | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, well, may you please spend some time on if KairosDB driver will be the nice task? | 15:31 |
| fabiog | eglynn: yes, but metric is linked to project/user combination through resources, isn't it the case? | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn they have python client as well | 15:31 |
| fabiog | jd__: yes I want to decouple measures from metrics so we can batch them as they come without having to group them by metric | 15:32 |
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| jd__ | fabiog: you mean sending measures for several metrics in one HTTP request? | 15:32 |
| eglynn | fabiog: so you meant retaining data for the same Metric name (e.g. cpu_util) for different resources of the same type (e.g. instances) for different periods? | 15:32 |
| fabiog | yes | 15:32 |
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| fabiog | jd__: yes | 15:32 |
| jd__ | fabiog: ok, I'm curious as I'm not sure it'd be an improvement, but I'd be glad to discuss if you've a patch or proto or something | 15:33 |
| jd__ | eglynn: feel free to continue the agenda if there's any btw :) | 15:33 |
| fabiog | jd__: give me a week or so and I will prepare a presentation | 15:33 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: ok, that retention flexiblity is provided by the gnocchi API ... but in practive I suspect ceilo will not usually be using that degree-of-freedom | 15:34 |
| fabiog | jd__: I was meant to do that at the mid-cycle ... | 15:34 |
| eglynn | fabiog: ... unless for example some subset of resources are consider higher priority than others | 15:34 |
| eglynn | fabiog: ... e.g. running a retail site, as opposed to build farm | 15:34 |
| * nealph thinks that's an interesting concept | 15:34 | |
| fabiog | eglynn: right, but this is the cause of the batching restrictions IMHO | 15:34 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: a-ha, so you don't want to batch across metrics with different ArchivePolicies? | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | OK, this sounds like an interesting subject that we could debate at length on a hangout or a specs review or some-such | 15:35 |
| fabiog | eglynn: wait ... I want to batch measures independently from its metrics | 15:36 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: OK, I'm missing the relevance of the variable retention policy in that case | 15:36 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: it is better I prepare my presentation and schedule a meeting. It is hard to explain it in IRC. I need pictures, data structures and so on :-) | 15:37 |
| eglynn | fabiog: coolness, that makes sense | 15:37 |
| eglynn | ... I look forward to getting an invite :) | 15:37 |
| eglynn | k, let's move on, a few housekeeping items to cover | 15:37 |
| eglynn | #topic Miscellaneous housekeeping | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | for those who didn't hear, we decided to cancel the midcycle meetup | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | ... as we didn't reach a quorum of contributors committed to attend | 15:38 |
| eglynn | ... but let's try to cover the topics via remote collaboration instead over the coming weeks | 15:39 |
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| eglynn | there was a thread on the ML from ttx about changes to the L* design summit format | 15:40 |
| eglynn | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054122.html | 15:40 |
| eglynn | so we, as a project, will need to express some preferences for how we'd like to accomodated at summit | 15:40 |
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| eglynn | IIRc basically a mix of ... | 15:42 |
| eglynn | (a) fishbowl-type sessions in larger spaces | 15:42 |
| eglynn | (b) more focussed working sessions in smaller spaces | 15:42 |
| eglynn | ... and (c) free-flowing contributor meetup style sessions | 15:42 |
| eglynn | I'm thinking (a) is more appropriate for the large projects e.g. nova & neutron | 15:42 |
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| eglynn | which leaves us with (b) and possibly (c) as the best option for ceilometer? | 15:43 |
| llu-laptop | eglynn: agreed | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I think so as well | 15:43 |
| llu-laptop | I don't think we need 100 to 200 people for fishbowl | 15:43 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: I agree | 15:44 |
| ildikov | eglynn: yeap, I don't feel myself as a fish either :) | 15:44 |
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| eglynn | so any objections to requesting mainly (b) for the ceilometer track? | 15:44 |
| mesterm | How many sessions on ceil are we thinking? | 15:44 |
| llu-laptop | just a question, if we don't apply for fishbowl, do we get enough timeslot for the working sessions we requires? | 15:44 |
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| mesterm | I am hoping there are some that are somewhat ops/implementation focused to address existing issues | 15:46 |
| gordc | cool with me | 15:46 |
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| gordc | ^ both eglynn and mesterm suggestions | 15:46 |
| eglynn | mesterm: historically we've gotten around 8-10 sessions ... but I suspect the competition for space will be more intense in the L* summit | 15:46 |
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| jd__ | (b) sounds fine | 15:47 |
| ildikov | (b) looks good to me too | 15:47 |
| mesterm | eglynn: sounds good | 15:47 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: I think applying for fishbowl time would only be appropriate if we really feel we can fill the space | 15:47 |
| eglynn | BTW we had been jokingly calling the L* cycle "Lemming" | 15:47 |
| eglynn | ... apparently though that's been removed from the list of candidate names | 15:48 |
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| eglynn | ... too easy for the haters to make jokes at our expense, apparently | 15:48 |
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| eglynn | Love, London, Liberty & Lizard on the list instead | 15:49 |
| eglynn | my money is on Lizard | 15:49 |
| cdent | Lizard | 15:49 |
| eglynn | snap :) | 15:49 |
| gordc | eglynn: lemmings are adorable now that i've googled it | 15:49 |
| llu-laptop | love seems a little bit weird | 15:49 |
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| mesterm | what about liver.... everyone loves liver | 15:50 |
| ildikov | gordc: LOL :) | 15:50 |
| * nealph grimaces | 15:50 | |
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| eglynn | mesterm: ... preferably chopped :) | 15:50 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: but are we moving away from being something from the place, e.g. steet, neighborough etc ... | 15:51 |
| fabiog | fabiog: I am wondering if London is a street in Vancouver | 15:51 |
| eglynn | fabiog: I think it's still primarly placename-based, maybe loosening the definition a bit though | 15:51 |
| eglynn | last item of housekeeping ... Use of spec proposal and feature proposal deadlines during kilo-3? | 15:52 |
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| eglynn | Thierry wants to have a lits of the deadlines each project is aiming for | 15:52 |
| fabiog | eglynn: can you post the schedule again, please? | 15:52 |
| llu-laptop | feb 5th kilo-2, | 15:53 |
| eglynn | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 15:53 |
| fabiog | eglynn: thanks | 15:53 |
| llu-laptop | mar 19th, kilo-3 | 15:53 |
| eglynn | how about ... feature proposal freeze two weeks out from kilo-2, spec proposal freeze 4 weeks out? | 15:53 |
| llu-laptop | feb 19th and mar 5th? | 15:54 |
| gordc | works for me... | 15:54 |
| eglynn | yeah, that sounds right | 15:54 |
| eglynn | cool | 15:54 |
| llu-laptop | good to me | 15:55 |
| ildikov | looks ok | 15:55 |
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| eglynn | #topic open discussion | 15:55 |
| eglynn | anyone want to raise anything in the remaining few minutes? | 15:56 |
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| mesterm | working remote during what was the mid-cycle will be done maybe via etherpad? | 15:57 |
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| eglynn | mesterm: etherpads are one way, also fabiog is proposing a g+ hangout for his topic | 15:57 |
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| fabiog | mesterm: I think the person that proposed the topic will be in charge of organizing something | 15:58 |
| eglynn | fabiog: agreed | 15:58 |
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| mesterm | i just dont want to miss anything :) | 15:58 |
| eglynn | cool | 15:59 |
| fabiog | mesterm: I will put my presentation schedule as topic for next meeting | 15:59 |
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| mesterm | fabiog: thanks | 15:59 |
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| eglynn | ok folks, outta time, let's call this a wrap ... thanks for your time! | 16:00 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 16:00:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-01-15-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-01-15-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| dkranz | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| dkranz | dd | 17:01 |
| dkranz | #startmeeting qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 17:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkranz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:01 |
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| dkranz | So who is here today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_January_15th_2015_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:01 |
| jlanoux | hi | 17:02 |
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| dkranz | jlanoux: hi | 17:03 |
| dkranz | Any one else here? | 17:03 |
| dstanek | i'm here | 17:03 |
| dpaterson | me too | 17:03 |
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| dkranz | ok, let's get started | 17:03 |
| dpaterson | 1/2 here 1/2 in other meeting :) | 17:04 |
| dkranz | #topic Spec Reviews | 17:04 |
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| dkranz | Any specs to review? | 17:04 |
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| dpaterson | I was shooting to have an update in today but didn't make it in time | 17:04 |
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| dpaterson | I will have an update COB today for cli spec | 17:05 |
| dkranz | dpaterson: ok, great | 17:05 |
| dkranz | ok, let's move on to blueprints | 17:06 |
| dkranz | I think Ken'ichi has made progress on preparing clients for move to tempest-lib | 17:06 |
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| dkranz | Any other blueprints to bring up? | 17:06 |
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| dkranz | Looks like this will be a short meeting :) | 17:07 |
| dkranz | Any grenade or devstack folks here? | 17:07 |
| sdague | dkranz: sorry, am now | 17:07 |
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| dkranz | sdague: np. Anything to discuss there? | 17:07 |
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| afazekas | py26 support with trunk: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146819/ ? | 17:08 |
| sdague | not much really. The biggest thing is trying to get people to use the devstack plugin interface instead of adding lots of stuff to devstack | 17:08 |
| dkranz | sdague: is that an education problem? | 17:09 |
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| dkranz | sdague: have you been letting stuff in or saying "no", use the plugin interface? | 17:09 |
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| sdague | the latter | 17:10 |
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| sdague | it's partially education, partially getting a workable pattern for it in the gate. The glusterfs folks are one of the early folks pushing through this. | 17:11 |
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| dkranz | sdague: Maybe they can be used as a template. I guess that is how we usually get people to adopt new things, but pointing to something that already did it | 17:11 |
| sdague | yep | 17:12 |
| sdague | that's about it | 17:12 |
| dkranz | sdague: Maybe an email about this would help. I might have missed it but did see one | 17:12 |
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| dkranz | sdague: ok, thanks | 17:12 |
| dkranz | afazekas: This is quite a contentious issue about py2.6 | 17:12 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: Why do people need to run tempest on py2.6 systems even if their clouds are running on such systems? | 17:13 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: Have the python clients dropped py2.6? | 17:13 |
| afazekas | dkranz: tempest master does not works with py26, the question is do we want to accept patches related to py26 compatibility | 17:13 |
| dkranz | afazekas: yes but I think it is more than that | 17:14 |
| dkranz | afazekas: If we say that 2.6 is not supported than a lot more people will be submitting things that break it | 17:14 |
| dkranz | afazekas: Til now this has not been a big issue but it will get bigger | 17:14 |
| afazekas | dkranz: probbaly it is simper then creating a py2.7 env and ignoring the *-manage tests | 17:14 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: If we are going to keep 2.6 working by accepting patches, it would be better to have a gate job. | 17:15 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: But many of our cores do not want that | 17:15 |
| dkranz | afazekas: I think we need a ml discussion and some kind of decision. | 17:16 |
| afazekas | dkranz: it is expexted to break 3 times per cycle, a random failure nosse from any additional job causes more issue then accepting 3 patches | 17:16 |
| clarkb | dkranz: as a non tempest core I am pretty sure openstack as a whole sort of made that decision back in atlanta | 17:17 |
| clarkb | dkranz: I don't understand why we would need to bring the discussion back up again | 17:17 |
| dkranz | afazekas: I am saying that I expect it to break more than that once people realize that breaking it is ok | 17:17 |
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| afazekas | clarkb, tempest does not have stable/juno branch or stable/icehouse branch | 17:17 |
| dkranz | clarkb: I meant withing tempest | 17:17 |
| clarkb | afazekas: dkranz that is orthogonal | 17:17 |
| clarkb | openstack has sai "we do no support python 2.6 except where necessary for previous releases" | 17:18 |
| clarkb | thats the short tl;dr of the current stance as interpreted by me at least | 17:18 |
| dkranz | clarkb: I'm actually not opposed to that | 17:18 |
| clarkb | tempest python2.6 support is not necessary for previous releases | 17:18 |
| dkranz | clarkb: Was this a tc decision that we can just point to? | 17:19 |
| clarkb | dkranz: it was an atlanta summit session | 17:19 |
| clarkb | there should be an etherpad linked off the wiki | 17:19 |
| * afazekas wasn't @ atlata | 17:19 | |
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| dkranz | clarkb: I don't think that is good enough as our issue is that our "customers" are complaining about it which is what I was trying to address | 17:19 |
| clarkb | (note I say python 2.6 support is not necessary for previous releases because we haven't run tempest on python2.6 against any of the current stable releases upstream) | 17:20 |
| dkranz | clarkb: you mean for tempest? | 17:20 |
| clarkb | yes specifically talking tempest here | 17:20 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: right, and that was silly | 17:20 |
| dkranz | clarkb: because we have kept it working anyway | 17:20 |
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| dstanek | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-cross-project-future-of-python | 17:20 |
| dstanek | that has the outcomes of the session about which versions to support | 17:21 |
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| sdague | so the crux of this argument is red hat uses rhel6 for test nodes internally, right? | 17:22 |
| afazekas | what is the policy with the pythonclients ? Tempest should be handled similarly. | 17:22 |
| dkranz | sdague: This was not just coming from Red Hat. Suse also. | 17:22 |
| clarkb | afazekas: pythonclients and other libs like oslo continue to support python2.6 until juno eol | 17:22 |
| clarkb | but I disagree that tempest and python clients are similar | 17:22 |
| clarkb | tempest is a utility you run it against a cloud from whatever python install | 17:23 |
| dkranz | clarkb: They are not. But our policy is either "we all drop 2.6 now" or "some of us do" | 17:23 |
| clarkb | its not a lib linked into long lived applications that we want to support for a reasonable period of time | 17:23 |
| clarkb | dkranz: no that isn't the policy because thats impossible | 17:23 |
| dkranz | clarkb: I was just clarifying that if it is the latter, then it is up to the tempest team to decide | 17:23 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: there is disagreement on the patch so this needs to be discussed an closed | 17:24 |
| sdague | honestly the python clients support requirement is only because our testing situation is wonky, and we let master uncapped clients with older servers | 17:24 |
| dkranz | But not at this meeting | 17:24 |
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| clarkb | dkranz: right I am trying to say this is already discussed and closed. suse and red hat were both in that room | 17:25 |
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| sdague | so I feel like we've been warning people forever that python26 was getting dropped from tempest | 17:25 |
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| clarkb | there wasn't any major disagreement to the decision that was made | 17:25 |
| dkranz | afazekas: I think we should discuss offline why this is so important | 17:26 |
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| dkranz | In any event we should create a new tempest tag to be "eol of py2.6" | 17:26 |
| sdague | dkranz: that would have been before there were tempest releases | 17:27 |
| afazekas | dkranz, ok, I had issue with bleeding edge systems, Please have a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146039/ | 17:27 |
| dkranz | sdague: I meant "last tempest that worked with 2.6" | 17:27 |
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| dkranz | sdague: which was not too long ago | 17:27 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: So I put that review on the agenda at the end. I do not understand it well enough to give +2 | 17:28 |
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| afazekas | dkranz: The short version the double 'l' makes me happy (and f21), and does not makes unhappy the previous change author :) | 17:29 |
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| dkranz | afazekas: well, we don't gate on these system differences. Can you get a review from him? | 17:31 |
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| afazekas | dkranz: I can try , On the cirros bug you can see what was difference what I also inspected.. | 17:33 |
| dkranz | afazekas: thanks | 17:33 |
| dkranz | #topic Open Discussion | 17:33 |
| dkranz | Anything else any one wants to discuss? | 17:33 |
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| jlanoux | dkranz: sorry I forgot that: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142809/17 | 17:33 |
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| dkranz | jlanoux: ok, looks like it is passing now. I will complete review today | 17:34 |
| jlanoux | dkranz: yes, finally! thanks. | 17:34 |
| dkranz | If some one else could review it as well that would be great | 17:34 |
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| dkranz | jlanoux: Looks like the move of RestBody to service may have already merged. | 17:36 |
| dkranz | jlanoux: If so you will need to rebase and change the client import | 17:36 |
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| dkranz | jlanoux: yup, it merged | 17:37 |
| jlanoux | dkranz: it did merged, that's why my change failed | 17:37 |
| jlanoux | dkranz: I alreday updated that | 17:37 |
| dkranz | jlanoux: great! | 17:37 |
| dkranz | Anything else? | 17:38 |
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| dkranz | ok, thanks every one. I think py2.6 will be gone. | 17:38 |
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| dkranz | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 17:39:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-01-15-17.01.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-01-15-17.01.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-01-15-17.01.log.html | 17:39 |
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| mikal | Nova meeting in 3... 2... 1... | 20:59 |
| mikal | #startmeeting nova | 20:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 15 20:59:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mikal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 20:59 |
| mikal | Who is here for the nova meeting? | 20:59 |
| dansmith | o/ | 20:59 |
| anteaya | o/ | 20:59 |
| edleafe | o/ | 20:59 |
| melwitt | o/ | 20:59 |
| flip214 | o/ | 20:59 |
| mriedem | hi | 20:59 |
| n0ano | o/ (your 45 seconds early) | 20:59 |
| flashgordon | o/ | 20:59 |
| mikal | pings for: k mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcook ekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 raildo jaypipes gilliard garyk edleafe dims moshele anteaya | 20:59 |
| sdague | o/ | 20:59 |
| mikal | Heh, cut and paste fail | 20:59 |
| bauzas | \o | 20:59 |
| flashgordon | mikal: you pinged yourself? | 21:00 |
| gilliard | hi! | 21:00 |
| dims | \o/ | 21:00 |
| bauzas | eh, 1 min | 21:00 |
| mikal | flashgordon: its how I roll | 21:00 |
| mikal | Sorry if this week is a bit disorganized | 21:00 |
| mikal | I'm at a conf and doing this on my laptop | 21:00 |
| mikal | Which means I can't have the agenda up at the same time as the IRC session | 21:00 |
| mikal | So... That said... | 21:00 |
| mikal | #topic Kilo specs | 21:01 |
| mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:01 |
| mikal | So, we've announced the spec exception process | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054039.html | 21:01 |
| mikal | And we've had 18 specs already request an exception | 21:01 |
| mikal | Which is a lot | 21:01 |
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| mikal | So, I'd suggest if you want an exception and haven't emailed yet, do that nowish | 21:02 |
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| mikal | I also think we should give exception priority to priority work | 21:02 |
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| mikal | Noting that I can't actually compell reviewers to review in any particular manner | 21:02 |
| mikal | Any other thoughts on the exception process? | 21:02 |
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| bauzas | anyway, it has to be accepted by 2 weeks before K-2 right, so in 1 week ? | 21:02 |
| mriedem | 1/22 | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | yes | 21:02 |
| mikal | Yeah, the deadline is 22 Jan | 21:02 |
| mikal | Which is just before the mid-cycle | 21:03 |
| mriedem | feature freeze is 2/5 | 21:03 |
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| flip214 | If I just want to get into Kilo release, but not necessarily kilo-2, is it enough to find a few reviewers for the spec and the code? | 21:03 |
| bauzas | mikal: so indeed, people have to rush if they want exceptions | 21:03 |
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| mikal | bauzas: rush to request yes | 21:03 |
| edleafe | Is there a plan for core spec reviewers to go over the requests? | 21:03 |
| n0ano | I'd like to discuss this at the mid-cycle for future releases, I think there could be improvements in the process | 21:03 |
| mikal | There is a little time for reviewers to do their thing though | 21:03 |
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| bauzas | mikal: yeah was unclear, rush is for proposers | 21:03 |
| mikal | n0ano: please put it on the agenda etherpad? | 21:04 |
| jichen | feature freeze means any new code patch to be submitted before 2/5? | 21:04 |
| n0ano | mikal, will do | 21:04 |
| mriedem | n0ano: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-midcycle | 21:04 |
| mikal | jichen: yes, any new _features_ | 21:04 |
| mikal | jichen: bug fixes can be later than that | 21:04 |
| jichen | mikal: ok, got it ,thanks | 21:04 |
| mikal | edleafe: there was a proposal for another specs review day | 21:04 |
| anteaya | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 21:04 |
| mikal | edleafe: but the date has falled out of my brain right now | 21:04 |
| mikal | It was next week IIRC | 21:04 |
| bauzas | interesting | 21:04 |
| edleafe | mikal: thanks | 21:04 |
| mikal | So, anything else on spec freeze before we move on? | 21:05 |
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| flip214 | mikal: so, for inclusion in kilo, code before feb 5th? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | code should be up now for anything | 21:05 |
| mikal | flip214: if that code is for a feature yes | 21:05 |
| mriedem | including for the 1/22 date | 21:06 |
| mikal | flip214: assuming that feature has a spec approved, or is exempt from specs | 21:06 |
| mikal | Oh yeah, fair point | 21:06 |
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| mikal | The 5 Feb date is the merge deadline | 21:06 |
| flip214 | mikal: I submitted the spec start of Dec, but it was not approved yet. Sadly, zz_johnthetubagu admitted to have forgotten it. | 21:06 |
| mikal | So you need to leave time for people to review as well | 21:06 |
| mriedem | yes before FF | 21:06 |
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| mikal | flip214: review number for the spec? | 21:07 |
| flip214 | mikal: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054225.html for the exemption mail | 21:07 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:07 |
| flip214 | spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134153/https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134153/ | 21:07 |
| flip214 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134153/ | 21:07 |
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| mikal | So if an exception has already been requested then its in process | 21:07 |
| flip214 | all right, thank you. | 21:07 |
| cburgess | late but here | 21:08 |
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| mikal | Moving on? | 21:08 |
| edleafe | Is there a list of specs requesting an exception? Link? | 21:08 |
| mikal | edleafe: its email on openstack-dev | 21:08 |
| mikal | edleafe: I started making a list this morning | 21:08 |
| edleafe | ah | 21:08 |
| mikal | edleafe: I will publish after this meeting | 21:09 |
| edleafe | I gotta stop reading that at the end of the day :) | 21:09 |
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| mikal | ["135387", "136490", "105404", "127283", "130732", "146914", "115716", "138808", "130732", "131729", "127863", "138270", "139910", "133534", "130715", "128825", "134153", "127609"] are the ones I am aware of at this time | 21:10 |
| bauzas | is it me or the bot is on vacation now ? | 21:10 |
| mikal | Meeting bot? | 21:10 |
| bauzas | yup | 21:10 |
| anteaya | good point | 21:10 |
| mikal | It talked at us at the begining | 21:10 |
| * anteaya moves to infra | 21:10 | |
| mikal | Anyways, let's move on | 21:10 |
| mikal | #topic Kilo priorities | 21:10 |
| mikal | So, this is our regular checkup on priority tasks | 21:10 |
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| mikal | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:11 |
| mikal | Is our list out currently outstanding priority reviews | 21:11 |
| mikal | I'm hoping people have kept that relatively updated | 21:11 |
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| mikal | But I will admit I've been on vacation and haven't looked at it in the last couple of weeks | 21:11 |
| dansmith | I know objects and cells have been kept up to date | 21:11 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:11 |
| dansmith | it seemed to help in the beginning, | 21:11 |
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| dansmith | but I don't think that people are actively using it as reference anymore | 21:12 |
| mikal | We should add that etherpad to our agenda for the mid-cycle | 21:12 |
| bauzas | scheduler is quite up to date too | 21:12 |
| mikal | As in, did that experiment work? | 21:12 |
| dansmith | measured only by the lack of attention I think those reviews are getting | 21:12 |
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| flashgordon | ++ | 21:12 |
| mikal | So, do we think a reminder email to openstack-dev would help? | 21:12 |
| bauzas | mikal: I liked that approach | 21:12 |
| * Vek pulls up the etherpad and makes a mental note to check out some of the outstanding reviews | 21:12 | |
| dansmith | I'd really like to use a hot poker at this point, but we can start with an email :) | 21:12 |
| mikal | Certainly we should be mentioning it here every week as a reminder | 21:12 |
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| mikal | Heh | 21:12 |
| mikal | Ok, I will send a reminder email after this meeting | 21:13 |
| * anteaya updates her section | 21:13 | |
| Vek | a periodic summary to the email list would probably also be handy | 21:13 |
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| mikal | Ok, are there any priority things which need a more explicit callout than the etherpad? | 21:13 |
| mikal | How are we blocking people right now? | 21:14 |
| mikal | (Specs are probably the most obvious thing) | 21:14 |
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| mikal | Nothing? | 21:14 |
| mikal | Its good to hear we're perfect | 21:15 |
| mikal | I find that reassuring | 21:15 |
| bauzas | mikal: eh | 21:15 |
| flashgordon | I think the holidays got me out of a good habbit | 21:15 |
| * Vek snorts | 21:15 | |
| mikal | flashgordon: I feel the same | 21:15 |
| mikal | But you've been reminded now | 21:15 |
| mikal | So reviewy reviewy | 21:15 |
| sdague | yeh, that's pretty normal, it happened last year as well. | 21:15 |
| * flashgordon gets coffee ... linus finally shut up | 21:15 | |
| mikal | Heh | 21:16 |
| mikal | Let's move on while Joe isn't looking | 21:16 |
| mikal | #topic Gate status | 21:16 |
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| mikal | I've been on vacation, blissfully unaware of the gate | 21:16 |
| mikal | But something about eventlet? | 21:16 |
| mikal | I assume it was fun and someone wants to tell the tale? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054529.html | 21:16 |
| mriedem | that's the tale | 21:16 |
| Vek | apparently, 0.16.0 was released which dropped a util.py | 21:16 |
| Vek | that blew up the gate, and people started working. | 21:17 |
| mikal | mriedem: is there any further action required? Or fixed now? | 21:17 |
| Vek | then 0.16.1 was released which really dropped util.py | 21:17 |
| mriedem | mikal: there were several terrible things busted in the last few days, so it's a mess | 21:17 |
| mriedem | mikal: fixed | 21:17 |
| Vek | my understanding is that it's fixed now | 21:17 |
| mikal | This is good | 21:17 |
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| mikal | Who do I need to thank for the fixings? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | however, ec2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1410622 | 21:17 |
| Vek | yeah, eventlet wasn't the only one... | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | latest ec2 is still capped | 21:17 |
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| mikal | Ahh yeah, I put the ec2 thing on the etherpad for the mid-cycle in case we haven't resolved it by then | 21:17 |
| mriedem | 2 tests fail, keystone complains about not getting a signature, i'm trying to debug it | 21:17 |
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| mikal | mriedem: do you need help? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | mikal: dims is helping | 21:18 |
| mriedem | keystone people would be helpful? | 21:18 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:18 |
| mriedem | or people that know ec2 | 21:18 |
| mikal | Cool even | 21:18 |
| mikal | Cloud scaling had a bunch of ec2 people IIRC | 21:19 |
| mikal | Not sure where they went though | 21:19 |
| mriedem | follow along here if yo ucare https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147601/ | 21:19 |
| mriedem | they went to stackforge | 21:19 |
| mikal | We could also ping dolphm or someone like that about the keystone stuff? | 21:19 |
| dansmith | should we dig into the ec2 reaping discussion here? | 21:19 |
| mikal | reaping? | 21:20 |
| dims | mikal: mriedem: i popped in to keystone once, let's gather some more evidence and ping them | 21:20 |
| mriedem | dansmith: maybe open discussion? | 21:20 |
| dansmith | mriedem: sure | 21:20 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:20 |
| * dansmith readies his flame thrower | 21:20 | |
| mikal | Move on then? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | ha, like kurt russell in the thing | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | yes move on | 21:20 |
| mikal | #topic Mid-cycle meetup | 21:20 |
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| mikal | Ok, so lots of people registered | 21:20 |
| mikal | I need to remind people that its a dev meetup and that we wont be very interesting to watch as performance art | 21:20 |
| mikal | I feel that the agenda etherpad needs a lot more work | 21:21 |
| mikal | Its been pretty quiet there | 21:21 |
| mriedem | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-midcycle | 21:21 |
| mriedem | i've been tryinhg | 21:21 |
| mikal | Which I guess is because of the holidays | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | my fear of advertising that is it's going to become a spec exception billboard | 21:21 |
| mriedem | which will be annoying | 21:21 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:21 |
| mikal | So, hopefully my spec exception summary thread will distract people | 21:22 |
| cburgess | For those of us who did not register and thus won't be there, will their be remote participation of any type? | 21:22 |
| mikal | When I post it | 21:22 |
| Vek | there probably should be a separate etherpad for spec exceptions, then | 21:22 |
| mikal | cburgess: nothing formal | 21:22 |
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| mikal | cburgess: vmware is chasing their av people because the glance guys had a plan | 21:22 |
| cburgess | I ask because of one of mriedem topics is one I agreed to tackle. | 21:22 |
| mikal | But nothing has come of it yet that I've seen | 21:22 |
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| yjiang5 | mriedem: it happens after FEE conclusion, right | 21:22 |
| cburgess | OK... I'll wait patiently. then. | 21:22 |
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| mikal | cburgess: or could you brief someone to cover for you? | 21:23 |
| tjones1 | yeah i don't think our IT folks will get anything - sorry | 21:23 |
| mikal | cburgess: or we could try and google hangout you in for that bit? | 21:23 |
| cburgess | Yeah I can work with mriedem on it. Its the whole livesnapshot thing. | 21:23 |
| mikal | Ok, cool | 21:23 |
| dansmith | mriedem won't be there right? | 21:23 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:23 |
| cburgess | Or not... | 21:23 |
| mriedem | i'll be on irc | 21:23 |
| mriedem | as normal | 21:23 |
| mriedem | out next week | 21:23 |
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| dansmith | unfortunately, there are a lot of people not coming | 21:24 |
| cburgess | Well I could come if there was space | 21:24 |
| dansmith | and I think having a hangout running the whole time is probably something we should try to do | 21:24 |
| cburgess | But I was slow on the uptake and didn't register. | 21:24 |
| * mriedem would have to get a working headset :) | 21:24 | |
| cburgess | Yeah I can be in a hang out for sure. | 21:24 |
| mikal | cburgess: I can sneak you in if you'd prefer that | 21:24 |
| bauzas | dansmith: +1 | 21:24 |
| mriedem | hangout would be good though | 21:24 |
| mikal | cburgess: that is acutally possible for a very small number of cases | 21:24 |
| cburgess | mikal: Lets take it offline. | 21:24 |
| n0ano | dansmith, we tried that in Portland and it didn't work out that well but I don't know an alternative | 21:24 |
| dansmith | n0ano: it worked well in utah | 21:24 |
| dansmith | n0ano: in portland it was kinda off the cuff and wasn't as successful, agreed | 21:25 |
| dansmith | personally, I'd rather not even try, | 21:25 |
| mikal | Ok, so let's take the specifics of that out of this meeting too | 21:25 |
| dansmith | but ... | 21:25 |
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| anteaya | alternative | 21:25 |
| mikal | I don't feel like we'll solve that in a single IRC meeting | 21:25 |
| anteaya | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing | 21:25 |
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| cburgess | Sorry for the distraction. tabled. | 21:26 |
| mikal | cburgess: it was a fair question, we just need to grind on it a bit more | 21:26 |
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| mikal | Move on from this topic? | 21:26 |
| mikal | Just please do things on the etherpad | 21:26 |
| mikal | #topic Bugs | 21:27 |
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| mikal | Next topic is bugs we should be worried about at the moment | 21:27 |
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| mriedem | nothing exploding the gate atm | 21:27 |
| mikal | Herm | 21:27 |
| mriedem | ec2 is capped so we can work that at our leisure | 21:27 |
| mikal | There are two vmware bugs marked as critical | 21:28 |
| mikal | I thought we agreed that wasn't a thing? | 21:28 |
| sdague | yeh, the ec2 bug is notable though | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | i know, i'm leisurely joking | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | again https://launchpad.net/bugs/1410622 | 21:28 |
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| sdague | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1374000 is the 2 year old SSL vuln bug | 21:29 |
| mikal | mriedem: that's the one you and dims are chasing, yes? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | mikal: yes | 21:29 |
| mikal | sdague: also single driver, so not critical by definition, yes? | 21:29 |
| dims | sdague: there's a review up for 1374000, am working it | 21:30 |
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| dims | mikal: yes, true | 21:30 |
| sdague | well, it was the security bug that was critical, we split it into 5 bugs critical | 21:30 |
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| dansmith | mikal: yes | 21:30 |
| mikal | sdague: ahh, ok | 21:30 |
| sdague | we can downgrade it because it's now a single driver | 21:30 |
| mikal | Looks like there is a fix proposed for oslo.vmware now? | 21:30 |
| dims | sdague: +1 | 21:30 |
| dims | mikal: yes, it depends on another review and MineSweeper ok | 21:30 |
| sdague | but just for history. IIRC the xen version of the bug is unfixable | 21:30 |
| dims | yep | 21:31 |
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| melwitt | pretty much. unless python version is at least 2.7 I think | 21:31 |
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| melwitt | and they have 2.4 | 21:31 |
| mikal | Yeah | 21:31 |
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| mikal | So it looks to me like people are working on the critical bugs | 21:31 |
| mikal | Have I missed any? | 21:31 |
| sdague | melwitt: 2.6 is fixable if you use requests, it's just that you can't install that in the xen env | 21:32 |
| melwitt | sdague: yes, true. I was about to correct myself. I think you can go back farther too if you install m2crypto but that's not something that's wanted | 21:32 |
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| mikal | #topic Stuck reviews | 21:33 |
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| mikal | I'm not actually tracking any off the rails reviews at the moment | 21:33 |
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| mikal | Is there anything we need to discuss or do we move on here? | 21:33 |
| anish | erm, what counts as a "stuck" review (sorry for noobishness)? | 21:33 |
| mriedem | well, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135700/ | 21:33 |
| mriedem | ^ is for a thing we want for priorities | 21:33 |
| dansmith | mriedem: oh now you didnuh | 21:33 |
| mriedem | needs more core eyes | 21:33 |
| mikal | anish: reviews where the reviewers can't agree without a higher bandwidth discussion | 21:33 |
| dansmith | s/now/no/ | 21:33 |
| anish | mikal: gotcha, thanks | 21:33 |
| mriedem | dansmith is going into the 'deep bush' for a week so we should talk about whether or not it's safe to merge in his absence | 21:34 |
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| dansmith | true story | 21:34 |
| mriedem | i need to do another pass on it, but was happy with the replies to my previous scrub | 21:34 |
| mikal | mriedem: well, if we trick dansmith into reviewing before he goes we'd be ok, right? | 21:34 |
| mriedem | and melwitt found some goodies | 21:34 |
| dansmith | ndipanov had concerns, but didn't comment them on the review | 21:34 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: when do you actually leave? | 21:34 |
| mikal | Oh, dan is the author | 21:34 |
| mikal | So can't review | 21:35 |
| dansmith | but given the weight of this, I am (a) thinking we need more than a couple cores, and (b) need to be sure we leave time for things to 'splode before I go I think | 21:35 |
| mriedem | wondering if ndipanov could review in time for replies | 21:35 |
| dansmith | mriedem: I'm here monday, but that's it | 21:35 |
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| mikal | Do we want to have dansmith WIP this until he gets back if he's still waiting for people? | 21:35 |
| mriedem | oh so the weekend | 21:35 |
| mriedem | could.. | 21:35 |
| dansmith | mikal: I have a sticky -2 on it so it doesn't merge without my permission | 21:35 |
| mikal | Worst case we work through it at the mid-cycle, right? | 21:35 |
| dansmith | yep | 21:36 |
| mikal | dansmith: is the -2 earlier in the chain? | 21:36 |
| mikal | dansmith: I don't see it? | 21:36 |
| dansmith | yes | 21:36 |
| dansmith | it's on the point of no return patch | 21:36 |
| mikal | Ahhhh, cool | 21:36 |
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| dansmith | it's big and fugly, | 21:36 |
| sdague | dansmith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135700/ is legitimately failing unit tests, right? | 21:36 |
| dansmith | but see my comments on the patch about it | 21:36 |
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| dansmith | and I've discussed with a few people about how it's almost impossible to make it smaller without complicaitng things | 21:37 |
| dansmith | sdague: is it? I rebased this morning and have been heads down on something else | 21:37 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/00/135700/45/check/gate-nova-python27/695fb8d/console.html#_2015-01-15_15_08_30_561 | 21:37 |
| sdague | yeh, there's a bunch of fails that seem legit | 21:37 |
| dansmith | oh fuckity | 21:37 |
| Vek | yeah, everything in the chain is jenkins-1 | 21:37 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:37 |
| mriedem | could be random, i had a random test failure yesterday | 21:37 |
| dansmith | this is why I want to either merge it or kill it | 21:37 |
| melwitt | sdague: that's new with the latest patch set | 21:37 |
| dansmith | because it's super invasive and a rebase nightmare | 21:38 |
| mriedem | the rpc fixture thing might be causing issues | 21:38 |
| Vek | db datasets is also -1 | 21:38 |
| dansmith | these are probably just new tests that need converting | 21:38 |
| * anteaya shakes a finger at dansmith | 21:38 | |
| melwitt | prior to that it was passing fine | 21:38 |
| dansmith | Vek: before the rebase this morning, everything was green I think | 21:38 |
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| melwitt | yes | 21:38 |
| sdague | mriedem: that would only impact things talking between services, this is straight up db | 21:38 |
| mriedem | nvm | 21:38 |
| mriedem | File "nova/objects/instance.py", line 444, in _maybe_migrate_flavor | 21:38 |
| mriedem | dansmith's fault :) | 21:38 |
| mriedem | _maybe_blow_up | 21:39 |
| dansmith | yep, new tests I'm sure | 21:39 |
| mikal | The system works! | 21:39 |
| dansmith | I'll try to get those fixed up this afternoon | 21:39 |
| dansmith | but still, | 21:39 |
| dansmith | the contentious part is not the test results | 21:39 |
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| dansmith | so reviews are still doable :) | 21:39 |
| mikal | dansmith: it sounds like the usual suspects are aware of the patch, just need to get down and review it | 21:40 |
| mikal | dansmith: so there's no mileage in pinging people for reviews, yeah? | 21:40 |
| dansmith | yeah, there has been lots of talk | 21:40 |
| mriedem | well, they are now | 21:40 |
| dansmith | not so much with the follow through :/ | 21:40 |
| mikal | Stupid humans | 21:40 |
| dansmith | I've been busy enough with other things that I haven't been actively harassing people | 21:40 |
| mikal | Ok, so we're low on time and I think we should move on | 21:40 |
| Vek | if only we could automate them, eh mikal? :) | 21:40 |
| dansmith | if it takes until the midcycle then that's fine | 21:40 |
| mikal | Any final words on this one? | 21:40 |
| dansmith | but then we need to poo or get off the pooper | 21:41 |
| mikal | dansmith: ummmm, ok | 21:41 |
| Vek | heh | 21:41 |
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| mikal | #topic nova-net to Neutron migration | 21:41 |
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| mikal | anteaya: its your time to shine | 21:41 |
| * anteaya tries | 21:41 | |
| anteaya | so people are talking | 21:41 |
| mikal | gus tells me he's working on some tweaks to the neutron spec | 21:42 |
| anteaya | there is a meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration | 21:42 |
| dansmith | talkin' 'bout people? | 21:42 |
| mikal | But they're not ready yet | 21:42 |
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| anteaya | I am harassing gus for his promised patchset appearing here soon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/ | 21:42 |
| mikal | The impact for us sounds like it might be a small migration command line tool which talks to conductor | 21:42 |
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| dansmith | yeah, we blessed that in paris, right? | 21:42 |
| mikal | Yeah | 21:42 |
| mriedem | dansmith: this isn't a bonnie raitt song | 21:42 |
| anteaya | there was an lca meeting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 | 21:42 |
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| mikal | They're still nailing down the details though | 21:43 |
| mikal | But I don't think its a big problem for us | 21:43 |
| dansmith | mriedem: +1 for catching that :) | 21:43 |
| anteaya | trying to make it not a big problem for nova, or at leaset not a big surprise | 21:43 |
| mikal | So, its on the agenda for the mid-cycle | 21:43 |
| anteaya | it is | 21:43 |
| mikal | And it sounds like we'll have a neutron spec we should read before then | 21:43 |
| mikal | To make sure we like it | 21:43 |
| anteaya | yes | 21:43 |
| mriedem | isn't that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/ ? | 21:44 |
| anteaya | if I have to I'll up harassing gus today since he leaves for a week of vacy | 21:44 |
| dansmith | I've skimmed the spec | 21:44 |
| mikal | mriedem: yes, but with updates in flight | 21:44 |
| dansmith | the whole thing kinda makes me nauseous | 21:44 |
| anteaya | gus is re-writting it | 21:44 |
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| dansmith | but as long as they just (ab)use our RPC stuff and don't require us to have external APIs and such, then ... meh | 21:45 |
| anteaya | and told me it would be up fro review yesterday but it didnt' happen | 21:45 |
| mikal | dansmith: well, it might be a command line tool instead of public APIs or REST | 21:45 |
| dansmith | right | 21:45 |
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| mikal | dansmith: which I don't think we have a particular problem with | 21:45 |
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| dansmith | right | 21:45 |
| mikal | So yeah | 21:45 |
| dansmith | and it doesn't even need to be in our tree, AFAIK | 21:45 |
| mikal | anteaya will continue chasing gus | 21:45 |
| anteaya | yes | 21:45 |
| mikal | And we shall continue being all helpful over here in the corner | 21:45 |
| anteaya | sorry I wanted to have the revision done today | 21:46 |
| mikal | dansmith: I think we might want it in our tree because it talks to conductor, but we can review that on its merits at the time | 21:46 |
| anteaya | sorry to waste your time | 21:46 |
| mikal | anteaya: no, its good for us to know people are still working on it | 21:46 |
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| mikal | anteaya: and that it hasn't been forgotten | 21:46 |
| anteaya | it hasn't been forgotten | 21:46 |
| mikal | Let's move on though, cause 12 minutes left | 21:46 |
| dansmith | mikal: well, it's going to be a hack, and it's just going to slow them down if it's in our tree | 21:46 |
| mikal | #topic Open Discussion | 21:46 |
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| dansmith | so I don't think it matters, but whatever | 21:46 |
| mikal | Please enjoy your 12 minutes of open discussion | 21:47 |
| mriedem | ec2? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054117.html | 21:47 |
| dansmith | kill it | 21:47 |
| mriedem | as in it's busted and people are actively hacking on it in stackforge | 21:48 |
| mikal | I feel like we never find volunteers for it | 21:48 |
| mriedem | but not bringing things back to nova from what i can tell | 21:48 |
| * Vek remembers a meeting format he once participated in which had a recurring "Sucks!" report... | 21:48 | |
| mikal | But if we kill it there will be a lot of blow back | 21:48 |
| mriedem | it was forked last june | 21:48 |
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| mriedem | yeah, there would need to be a migration path | 21:48 |
| mikal | Has anyone looked at the stackforge one recently? | 21:48 |
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| mikal | Is it a viable alternative? | 21:48 |
| mriedem | i looked at the commits | 21:48 |
| mriedem | just saw it was a billion times more active than the nova ec2 api tree | 21:48 |
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| mriedem | not sure what the diffs are right now | 21:49 |
| flashgordon | mriedem: sounds like good fodder for mid cycle to me | 21:49 |
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| anish | a question regarding "jan 22 : Nova non-priority feature code proposal deadline". does that just imply code should be up for review by then. | 21:49 |
| mriedem | flashgordon: it's on the etherpad | 21:49 |
| flashgordon | mriedem: \o/ | 21:49 |
| mikal | Yep, let's make sure we cover ec2 at mid-cycle | 21:49 |
| mriedem | anish: you should have code up now for anything that's not approved | 21:49 |
| mriedem | if you're trying to get approved | 21:49 |
| anish | I do | 21:50 |
| anish | but there are close to 7 other changes all hitting the same path | 21:50 |
| anish | definitely going to need rebasing and some extra work | 21:50 |
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| yjiang5 | mikal: I remember I was told that no code should be uploaded before a spec approved . | 21:50 |
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| mriedem | yjiang5: you can always have POC code | 21:51 |
| mriedem | it helps when you're reviewing the spec sometimes | 21:51 |
| mikal | yjiang5: just WIP the code? | 21:51 |
| dansmith | yjiang5: yeah, you can upload whatever you want | 21:51 |
| dansmith | yjiang5: just don't expect it to merge or not need lots of change | 21:51 |
| mriedem | it just doesn't mean it's a golden ticket | 21:51 |
| anish | so I'm not sure how that affects the deadline. | 21:51 |
| yjiang5 | got it, thanks. I will upload my patches then. | 21:51 |
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| mikal | anish: I don't understand? | 21:52 |
| mriedem | anish: if you have the spec exception request in the ML and the code up for review (albeit maybe needs changes), then you just have to sit tight | 21:52 |
| anish | mikal: there are patches with ahead of mine in the review process that completely remove a function that I modify | 21:52 |
| mriedem | anish: and review other stuff in the queue | 21:52 |
| anish | my spec was approved way back at the start of dec, don't need an exception (I believe ?) | 21:53 |
| mikal | anish: ahead as in your patch depends on them? | 21:53 |
| anish | mikal: does not depend on them, but they both change the same function | 21:53 |
| mikal | anish: if you spec is approved already then you don't need an exception | 21:53 |
| mikal | anish: sure, so if that other thing merges first, then you might need to rebase | 21:53 |
| mriedem | anish: so maybe comment on those changes | 21:53 |
| anish | already doing that to keep track | 21:53 |
| mriedem | or rebase on top of them | 21:54 |
| mriedem | git review -d | 21:54 |
| mikal | Noting that rebasing on top of them hitchs your wagon to their things merging as well | 21:54 |
| anish | yes, which is why I have not done that yet | 21:54 |
| mriedem | yeah there is that | 21:54 |
| mriedem | anyway, business as usual | 21:54 |
| mikal | anish: is your BP in LP targetted to a milestone? | 21:54 |
| anish | k2 | 21:55 |
| anteaya | this is the etherpad of the gus, markmcclain, jogo discussion at lca that gus is currently turning into the newest patchset for the nova-net to neutron migration: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-neutron-migration-discussion | 21:55 |
| mikal | Because that should help get review attention too, we're just not focussed ont aht yet | 21:55 |
| yjiang5 | I sent a question to the mailing list at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/054468.html and hope get some feedback. It's a genertal question about the constraints from both flavor and image properties. | 21:55 |
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| anteaya | found gus running to a session at at least got that | 21:55 |
| anish | mikal: cool, thanks ! will sit tight | 21:55 |
| mikal | yjiang5: yep, I am sure people will see that | 21:56 |
| mriedem | end early? | 21:56 |
| mikal | I think we've covered everything | 21:56 |
| mikal | Early mark? | 21:56 |
| yjiang5 | mikal: sent two days before, and hope someone will notice it. | 21:56 |
| tjones1 | thanks dansmith for getting that song stuck in my head | 21:56 |
| dansmith | tjones1: no problem :) | 21:57 |
| tjones1 | at least i like it | 21:57 |
| mikal | yjiang5: well, people know about it now so hopefully soon? | 21:57 |
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| yjiang5 | mikal: :) | 21:57 |
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| mikal | Anyways, thanks for coming to my super exciting meeting everyone | 21:57 |
| mikal | Early mark! | 21:57 |
| tjones1 | :-D | 21:57 |
| mikal | #endmeeting | 21:57 |
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| flip214 | thanks! | 21:57 |
| edleafe | yay! | 21:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 15 21:57:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-01-15-20.59.html | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-01-15-20.59.txt | 21:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-01-15-20.59.log.html | 21:57 |
| bauzas | eh thanls | 21:57 |
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