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| tangchen_ | Hi, guys. According to http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Third_Party_Meeting, there are 2 meetings here, right ? | 02:48 |
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| tangchen_ | The first one is 00:00 in China. So it is over, right? | 02:48 |
| tangchen_ | If I want to discuss something about zuul development, should I join in the one tomorrow ? | 02:48 |
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| tangchen | hi all, is there a third party meeting going to be held here in this channel tomorrow 0800 UTC ? | 11:30 |
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| tangchen | I think it is 16:00 in China. | 11:30 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 13:03 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 13:03 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 13:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 13:04:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 13:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 13:04 |
| ttx | dhellmann: anything urgent before we discuss liberty-2 ? | 13:04 |
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| dhellmann | no, I think think there's anything "urgent" | 13:05 |
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| ttx | #topic liberty-2 | 13:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty-2 (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 13:05 | |
| ttx | So this week we have the liberty-2 dev milestone | 13:05 |
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| ttx | We wrote this last time: | 13:06 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle_Management/Milestone_Checklist | 13:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: was wondering if we should make PTLs go through a releases change to communicate the SHA | 13:07 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, that's a good idea | 13:08 |
| ttx | we'll have to push that anyway | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | it will save us from having to import it later | 13:08 |
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| dhellmann | I've been focusing on the post-version release tool updates, but we can just do the milestone work by hand for now | 13:08 |
| ttx | process could be: communicate a tag before Thursday there, or we'll make one for you | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | but using the releases repo to record the request | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | heh | 13:08 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I think that works | 13:09 |
| ttx | The only thing we can't really invent ourselves is the cleanup / update of the launchpad stuff | 13:09 |
| dhellmann | we've had a couple of teams use that repo already for libraries, so I think the instructions for editing the files make some sense | 13:09 |
| dhellmann | true | 13:09 |
| ttx | so tomorrow we should get that covered, and point to releases repo | 13:10 |
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| ttx | That prevents the usual "please tag once those are in" type communication | 13:10 |
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| dhellmann | that works -- should we go ahead and update the wiki page, too? | 13:10 |
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| dhellmann | it does, and that means less tracking for us | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | they can use depends-on to track it automatically | 13:11 |
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| dhellmann | although they have to point to a sha that actually exists, so I'm not sure depends-on is going to be the right approach | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | they might need to point to a merge commit, for example | 13:11 |
| ttx | dhellmann: could they set "HEAD" as SHA or something and we'd update that when we are ready to merge ? | 13:12 |
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| ttx | then a HEAD + a depends-on would mean: "release whenever that is in" | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | the validation code rejects anything that isn't an actual sha, right now | 13:12 |
| ttx | and a HEAD without depends on would mean "release with anything that made it between this proposal and when you process it" | 13:12 |
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| dhellmann | I hesitate to encourage that. | 13:13 |
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| dhellmann | I see the benefit, but it moves most of the burden back to us. | 13:13 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yeah, I tend to agree with you | 13:13 |
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| dhellmann | If we encourage them to use a real sha, we can process the request at any time and it will point to the thing they expect. | 13:14 |
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| dhellmann | no surprises | 13:14 |
| ttx | I guess "merge when that is in" would rather translate to us making up the releases change | 13:14 |
| dhellmann | right | 13:14 |
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| ttx | ok, that sounds good | 13:14 |
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| ttx | questions on the process ? | 13:15 |
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| ttx | Should we remind the PTL of the upcoming milestone ? Remind them they should attend office hours tomorrow ? | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205245/ will show them the "unreleased" changes, so they can verify that they're getting what they expect -- it would be good to get that set up this week | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | yes, I think reminders are always good | 13:16 |
| ttx | OK, will do, and I'll also create a etherpad tracking page for us | 13:16 |
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| dhellmann | I'll review the checklist early today and ping you if I can't remember what something means | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 13:16 |
| ttx | #action ttx to send l2 reminder | 13:16 |
| ttx | #action ttx to create tracking etherpad | 13:16 |
| dhellmann | dims_: I wonder if we should wait to do all of those oslo releases with the version changes until after the L2 milestone this week? | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | dims_: I wasn't thinking about the date last week when I suggested clearing that backlog. | 13:17 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-releases | 13:18 |
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| dhellmann | I'll talk to dims_ about that out of the meeting, it looks like he has a review up for the changes | 13:18 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: on the "deliverables / set a release model for everything" side, I'll try to push the "deliverables" new format for project.yaml tomorrow at the TC meeting | 13:19 |
| ttx | I'm finalizing the tooling changes | 13:19 |
| ttx | so it could be a good idea to rebase on top of that | 13:20 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yes, I expect that patch will take a few revisions | 13:20 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure it's a super high priority, so I might wait until next week to update and try to work on the py3 devstack changes I have in my backlog this week | 13:21 |
| ttx | sure | 13:21 |
| ttx | just a warning that I'll generate a pretty massive merge conflict for you tomorrow, if all goes well | 13:21 |
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| dhellmann | ok, that's expected :-) | 13:22 |
| ttx | That is all I had -- any other topics ? | 13:22 |
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| dhellmann | are you caught up on the requirements work we were doing last week with the validation job? I have some reviews up, and comments from lifeless I need to respond to. | 13:24 |
| ttx | not fully caught up yet | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/requirements+branch:master+topic:refactor-integration-tests,n,z | 13:24 |
| ttx | if there is anything I need to review to unblock stuff, I'm still in a "ping me to get reviews" mode | 13:24 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I'll do that after I push the next versions of the patches | 13:25 |
| ttx | ack | 13:25 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 13:25 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: I had a question about intermediary releases for service projects | 13:25 |
| dhellmann | I'm going to PyOhio this weekend, so I'll be out Friday and Monday | 13:26 |
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| ttx | are we ready to handle those at this point ? Or will we just figure it out for the first one that asks ? | 13:26 |
| dhellmann | I think we're ready, but we may need to do a little cleanup as part of the first release for each project | 13:27 |
| dhellmann | ideally we would tag a release and then the next commit to land in that project would be one to remove the version from setup.cfg | 13:27 |
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| ttx | Oh, and neutron-lbaas-dashboard was added to the Neutron deliverable earlier today | 13:27 |
| ttx | although it doesn't have a repo yet | 13:28 |
| ttx | so I suspect it won't affect l2. I'll make a note to ask mestery about it | 13:28 |
| dhellmann | I keep getting confused about the order of checks for repos | 13:28 |
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| dhellmann | so it's in the deliverable in governance, but doesn't exist in gerrit yet? | 13:29 |
| ttx | yeah, was confused too | 13:29 |
| ttx | I think they now require the project to be in governance first. Or is it the other way around | 13:29 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if, now that we are going to be doing away with the stackforge namespace, we should require that repos exist before they can be added to the governance list, just to have a consistent order for the instructions | 13:29 |
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| dhellmann | I think it depends on whether it's an official project team or not, and I'm not sure why that matters | 13:30 |
| ttx | hmm, right | 13:30 |
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| dhellmann | if it does, then maybe we should list unofficial teams in the governance repo, too, so we have a place to track who owns all of these things | 13:30 |
| ttx | well, we track the repo list in releases too (for history) so it's fine | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | and then we would say governance first all the time | 13:30 |
| dhellmann | well, that's true, so maybe it doesn't matter for us | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if we need to be doing any validation that the releases deliverable matches the governance deliverable | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | maybe that would just bind the 2 things together in an awkward way | 13:31 |
| ttx | sounds like a good warning | 13:31 |
| ttx | there would be a bit of catch-22 there if we linked them strongly | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure how we would report a warning, though, when the job is fully automated | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | right, that's why I was thinking about order | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | project-config, governance, releases | 13:32 |
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| ttx | also the repo might be there and you might still not deem it ready for the deliverable | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | create whatever you want, ask for it to be official, add it to your deliverables list | 13:32 |
| dhellmann | ah, true | 13:33 |
| ttx | it "will be" part of the deliverable, that's the plan | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | yeah, so maybe that's just a risk we take | 13:33 |
| ttx | but it might be a couple of dev milestones ahead | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | they can always amend a release with another deliverable | 13:33 |
| ttx | true that | 13:33 |
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| ttx | ok, anything else to discuss ? | 13:34 |
| dhellmann | that's all I had, you saw my comment about travel? | 13:34 |
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| ttx | yes I did. Personally I'll be taking a week off starting Wednesday 5th | 13:35 |
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| dhellmann | I have a couple of small personal trips coming up, too. I'll send you a list by email | 13:35 |
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| ttx | So we can sync on Tuesday | 13:35 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, that should work -- I'm going to Pittsburgh to talk to the meetup there on the 5th, though you said you're out that week | 13:36 |
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| dhellmann | I guess we'll both be out 5, 6, & 7 | 13:36 |
| ttx | ok, let's end the meeting | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | I'll try to keep up with email | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | ok | 13:37 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 13:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 13:37:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-07-27-13.04.html | 13:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-07-27-13.04.txt | 13:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-07-27-13.04.log.html | 13:37 |
| ttx | dhellmann: thx! | 13:37 |
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| boris-42 | #startmeeting rally | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 14:02:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rally)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:02 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: amaretskiy oanufriev ping | 14:03 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:03 |
| rvasilets | \o | 14:03 |
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| temujin | hi | 14:04 |
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| yingjun | Hi | 14:04 |
| kun_huang | :) | 14:05 |
| kun_huang | boris-42: here | 14:07 |
| skraynev | o/ | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | #topic Make Rally framework independent from OpenStack | 14:08 |
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| boris-42 | As far as you know I am working quite a lot on this task | 14:08 |
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| boris-42 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203911/ | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | ^ this patch resolves one more place that blocks this effort | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | e.g. Base runner should know to content of Context object to prepare scenario context | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | which is terrible | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | after this patch each context plugin is able to transform context object for scenario | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | which allows us to make runner independent of context obj | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: rvasilets amaretskiy redixin oanufriev kun_huang yingjun ^ any questions | 14:11 |
| amaretskiy | no | 14:11 |
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| boris-42 | everything is clear? | 14:11 |
| yingjun | no | 14:12 |
| kun_huang | nope, I will watch it | 14:12 |
| rvasilets | boris-42, no. Interesting patch which need more patient from me | 14:12 |
| temujin | watch it later | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | okk | 14:13 |
| e0ne | i'll review it later today | 14:13 |
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| boris-42 | next topic | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | #topic [stpierre] create_and_list_<singular> (e.g., create_and_list_image) or create_and_list_<plural> (e.g., create_and_list_users)? We use a mix of both, and should pick one and standardize. | 14:13 |
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| redixin | +1 for plural | 14:14 |
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| boris-42 | +1 for plural | 14:15 |
| boris-42 | imho it should be obvious | 14:15 |
| rvasilets | yes, +1 for plural | 14:15 |
| redixin | who want to make test for this? | 14:15 |
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| boris-42 | redixin: pboldin LOL=) | 14:16 |
| redixin | rofl | 14:16 |
| rvasilets | he like regexp | 14:16 |
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| rvasilets | lets vote) +1 from me for pboldin) | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | LOL | 14:16 |
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| boris-42 | e0ne: ^ | 14:18 |
| boris-42 | skraynev: ^ | 14:18 |
| skraynev | boris-42: +1 from me about using plural everywhere | 14:19 |
| e0ne | +1 | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | kun_huang, ^ | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | temujin, ^ | 14:19 |
| yingjun | +1 | 14:20 |
| kun_huang | +1 for plural | 14:20 |
| yingjun | plural | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy | +1 for plural | 14:20 |
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| boris-42 | #agreed we should use plural everywhere and make hacking rule for this | 14:20 |
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| boris-42 | #topic | 14:20 |
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| boris-42 | #topic [e0ne] verify performance with Rally: compare performance of scenarios after 2 runs | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[e0ne] verify performance with Rally: compare performance of scenarios after 2 runs (Meeting topic: rally)" | 14:20 | |
| boris-42 | e0ne: this is question to amaretskiy * | 14:20 |
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| e0ne | in cinder, we want to get in in infra | 14:20 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: oh you mean to do this in gates? | 14:21 |
| e0ne | yep | 14:21 |
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| boris-42 | e0ne: ok then it's questions to me | 14:21 |
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| e0ne | :) | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: I'm ready to start implementing that after having patches related to new reports classes merged - these patches are ready for review (having all +1 from gates) | 14:21 |
| kun_huang | e0ne: compare the performance with new patch and without new patch in gate? | 14:22 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: it's a bit different topic | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: okay | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: I can start this separately | 14:22 |
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| e0ne | kun_huang: yes. but i understand that we could get false-negative results | 14:22 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: that will be definitely useful | 14:22 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: yep | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: okay, starting work on this patch... | 14:22 |
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| boris-42 | e0ne: because gate jobs are run on different VMs | 14:23 |
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| e0ne | boris-42: you're right :( | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: and some of VM are 2 times more powerful than other | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: so I hade some ideas about this | 14:23 |
| kun_huang | e0ne: boris-42 is it possible to do this in 3rd CI? | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: e.g. running few benchmarks to measure CPU/IO/MEM/Ne | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | kun_huang: that is possible | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: and then using this number normalize results | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: but it's quite hard task imho | 14:25 |
| e0ne | boris-42: sure | 14:25 |
| kun_huang | e0ne: boris-42 https://01.org/sites/default/files/styles/project_screenshot/public/lkp-homepage.gif?itok=PHTL0syr | 14:25 |
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| e0ne | boris-42: and it will be implemented maybe only in N release | 14:25 |
| kun_huang | in linux kernel, they do the job like this | 14:25 |
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| boris-42 | e0ne: yep like that | 14:26 |
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| boris-42 | kun_huang: so the thing is that in OpenStack they want to do this on every patch | 14:26 |
| boris-42 | kun_huang: in CI | 14:26 |
| rvasilets | boris-42, we could find after some running of task the weakest vm. And start to use it like measure value) That try to find const that athoer vm have relitevaly to 'basic' vm. And try to divide avery value in proper graphic by this const maybe | 14:26 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: that won't work | 14:27 |
| boris-42 | rvasilets: we need to find the way to normalize results | 14:27 |
| rvasilets | it would be work fine of we have some permanent set of vms | 14:27 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: nope it won't work because you can get merged patch | 14:27 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: that destroys performance (e.g. 2 times) | 14:28 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: after that you won't be able to merge anything because all other VMs won't be so powerful | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | and you will block gates | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | as well the idea is to have this job fully automatic | 14:28 |
| e0ne | boris-42: +1 | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | e.g. if performance was improved it should automatically find new baseline | 14:29 |
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| rvasilets | boris-42, agree | 14:30 |
| boris-42 | okay so someday we will work on this | 14:30 |
| boris-42 | but there are simpler and more important tasks at this point | 14:31 |
| boris-42 | as well we should prepare performance trends reports | 14:31 |
| boris-42 | which amaretskiy is already working on | 14:31 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: ^ | 14:31 |
| kun_huang | sounds good | 14:31 |
| e0ne | great! | 14:31 |
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| boris-42 | #agreed We will finish this task someday | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | #topic [rvasilets] Replace depraceted oslo.db code | 14:34 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: so^ | 14:34 |
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| rvasilets | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205530/ Why looking at logs I found that https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/enginefacade.py#L830 | 14:35 |
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| rvasilets | We have depraceted usage of oslo.db at code | 14:35 |
| rvasilets | so I decide ro write a small patch | 14:36 |
| rvasilets | if you like this idea please review it | 14:36 |
| rvasilets | eom | 14:36 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: yep we should do this | 14:36 |
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| kun_huang | it seems reasonable for me | 14:38 |
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| kun_huang | that's the suggestion from oslo | 14:38 |
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| yingjun | +1 | 14:39 |
| kun_huang | btw boris-42 rvasilets e0ne does gate-rally-dsvm-verify block everyone now? | 14:39 |
| boris-42 | kun_huang: not sure | 14:40 |
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| amaretskiy | #agreed gate-rally-dsvm-verify looks broken | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | kun_huang: I had to do the stuff and didn't track rally for last 4 days | 14:40 |
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| boris-42 | #topic gate-rally-dsvm-verify looks broken | 14:40 |
| rvasilets | нуы | 14:40 |
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| rvasilets | yes | 14:40 |
| rvasilets | they a blocked | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | okay I will take a look today at it | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | and try to unblock it | 14:40 |
| rvasilets | from 23 tp 24th | 14:40 |
| rvasilets | nigth | 14:41 |
| rvasilets | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198877/4 | 14:41 |
| rvasilets | looks like by this patch | 14:41 |
| rvasilets | I have talk with redixin | 14:41 |
| rvasilets | and he thin that problem that we don;t have permissions at absolute paths | 14:41 |
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| redixin | rvasilets, did you try to install tempest into venv? | 14:42 |
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| rvasilets | I tried but found some other issues | 14:42 |
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| rvasilets | and I don't now what is they mean) | 14:43 |
| boris-42 | rvasilets: uh oh | 14:43 |
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| rvasilets | Do it install only with cloud or without too? | 14:44 |
| rvasilets | Devstack have broken for me now. And without cloud I got following http://paste.openstack.org/show/405924/ | 14:45 |
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| boris-42 | rvasilets: ok guys | 14:47 |
| boris-42 | we will disucss this in rally chat | 14:47 |
| boris-42 | #topic Open discussion | 14:48 |
| rvasilets | ok | 14:48 |
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| boris-42 | do we have something to discuss? | 14:48 |
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| kun_huang | none from me | 14:48 |
| amaretskiy | nothing special from me | 14:48 |
| rvasilets | No. Nothing significant) | 14:48 |
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| boris-42 | okay let's finish meeting | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 14:50:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-07-27-14.02.html | 14:50 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 15:04:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:04 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:04 |
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| lennyb_ | Hi | 15:04 |
| anteaya | how is everyone today | 15:04 |
| anteaya | how are you lennyb_? | 15:04 |
| lennyb_ | still fine:) how are you? | 15:04 |
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| akerr | o/ | 15:05 |
| anteaya | good thanks | 15:05 |
| anteaya | busy | 15:05 |
| anteaya | and hot today | 15:05 |
| * anteaya fans herself | 15:05 | |
| anteaya | hi akerr | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | what shall we discuss today? | 15:06 |
| rhedlind | I have a question | 15:06 |
| anteaya | anyone have anything that would be considered an announcement | 15:06 |
| anteaya | hello rhedlind | 15:06 |
| rhedlind | hi | 15:06 |
| lennyb_ | anteaya: not me. | 15:06 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: thanks | 15:07 |
| anteaya | rhedlind: what is your question? | 15:07 |
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| rhedlind | do people have email notification on test run failure set up? if so, how did you do that? | 15:07 |
| anteaya | test run failure set up | 15:07 |
| anteaya | what do you mean by that phrase? | 15:08 |
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| rhedlind | sorry, I meant having email alerts when a test run fails. | 15:09 |
| rhedlind | right now I have to check my jenkins dashboard every so often to see if a test failed | 15:09 |
| rhedlind | quite tedious | 15:09 |
| lennyb_ | rhedlind: our Jenkins sends email on every failure, but we have additional script that send very urgent email if 5 sequential builds are failed. | 15:09 |
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| rhedlind | lennyb_: are you using the mailer plugin or another plugin to send emails? | 15:10 |
| lennyb_ | rhedlind: mailer plugin | 15:10 |
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| lennyb_ | email_extention_plugin | 15:11 |
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| lennyb_ | rhedlind: and python script using rest api to check Jenkins builds status | 15:12 |
| akerr | rhedlind: we have zuul send an email on failures for us | 15:12 |
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| lennyb_ | akerr. zuul can send emails? | 15:12 |
| akerr | yes | 15:12 |
| rhedlind | ok, I will look at all those options. What I have now is not sustainable. | 15:12 |
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| akerr | On failure you add a "smtp" section with a "to, from and subject" | 15:13 |
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| lennyb_ | akerr: interesting, this can be useful in case of merge failures, since those are not trigger jenkins, but still comment | 15:13 |
| akerr | lennyb_: yep, we actually have it set up to only email on merge failure, not to comment on gerrit | 15:13 |
| lennyb_ | can you explain/send a short email how to config this? We had a conversation last week about this issue, even proposing changes to Zuul, but looks like you have a better sollution | 15:14 |
| anteaya | akerr: well done | 15:14 |
| akerr | lennyb_: rhedlind: http://paste.openstack.org/show/405930/ | 15:15 |
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| lennyb_ | thanks | 15:15 |
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| akerr | tabbing on that first line off :( | 15:15 |
| rhedlind | thanks! | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/405930/ configure zuul to email on merge failure, not comment | 15:17 |
| anteaya | akerr: did I get that right? | 15:17 |
| lennyb_ | akerr: yes | 15:17 |
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| akerr | Yes, it emails and comments on run failures, and only emails on merge failures | 15:18 |
| anteaya | nice | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | any more on this? | 15:18 |
| anteaya | thanks for sharing akerr | 15:18 |
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| mmedvede | akerr: and your CI does not comment on merge failures? | 15:18 |
| akerr | the first line "failure:" should be tabbed over the same distance as the "merge-failure" line | 15:19 |
| akerr | mmedvede: correct | 15:19 |
| mmedvede | I have similar setting, and still sometimes get zuul commenting on merge failures, need to figure it out | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | #info the first line "failure:" should be tabbed over (whitespace?) the same distance as the "merge-failure" line | 15:19 |
| anteaya | this might be worth adding to the third-party.html doc | 15:20 |
| anteaya | akerr: are you willing to offer a patch? | 15:20 |
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| lennyb_ | anteaya: good point, can save a lot of headache to all | 15:20 |
| mmedvede | +1 | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | akerr: any thoughts? | 15:21 |
| akerr | anteaya: I am willing, but it might take while, our legal dept can be a pain sometimes. It would certainly be faster for someone else to propose it | 15:21 |
| anteaya | akerr: :( | 15:21 |
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| lennyb_ | akerr: I can try adding this, after I will verify in our setup | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | if someone else proposes it, are the allowed to add you as co-author? or whould that upset your legal dept as well? | 15:21 |
| akerr | anteaya: that would be fine | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | any volunteers to offer akerr's work as a patch and credit akerr with co-auhthored-by in the commit message? | 15:22 |
| lennyb_ | anteaya: I can | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | lennyb_: thank you lennyb_ | 15:23 |
| akerr | thanks lennyb_ | 15:23 |
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| anteaya | can you ensure you bring a link to the patch to the next monday third party meeting? | 15:23 |
| lennyb_ | ok | 15:24 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:25 |
| anteaya | #action lennyb_ to create a patch documenting akerr's work, crediting akerr with co-authored-by in the commit message | 15:25 |
| anteaya | thanks lennyb_ | 15:25 |
| anteaya | any more on this topic? | 15:26 |
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| anteaya | anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:27 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any reason why I should not end the meeting? | 15:27 |
| anteaya | thank you everyone for your kind attendance and participation | 15:28 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:28 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 15:28:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-07-27-15.04.html | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-07-27-15.04.txt | 15:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-07-27-15.04.log.html | 15:28 |
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| NikolayM | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 16:01:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NikolayM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:01 |
| NikolayM | hi everyone! | 16:01 |
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| akuznetsova | hi there | 16:02 |
| melisha | Hi | 16:02 |
| NikolayM | let's wait a few minutes for others | 16:03 |
| gpaz | Hi everyone | 16:04 |
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| ^Gal^ | hi | 16:04 |
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| NikolayM | so, let's start | 16:04 |
| NikolayM | first topic is review action items | 16:04 |
| NikolayM | #topic Review action items | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:04 | |
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| NikolayM | 1. NikolayM: review and discuss Lingxian's proposal about removing wf_trace module | 16:05 |
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| NikolayM | particially done | 16:05 |
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| NikolayM | reviewed but not discussed yet | 16:05 |
| NikolayM | so, I absolutely support this idea | 16:06 |
| NikolayM | xylan_kong is not with us today | 16:06 |
| NikolayM | next item | 16:06 |
| melisha | NikolayM: I am not familiar enough with this to have an opinion | 16:07 |
| melisha | OK | 16:07 |
| NikolayM | melisha, I can send a link on the document to you | 16:07 |
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| NikolayM | 2. NikolayM: map what we have and what we don't have in our docs and next week at the meeting discuss plan for it | 16:07 |
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| akuznetsova | I've worked on it ) | 16:08 |
| NikolayM | we have an etherpad with docs plan at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-docs-plan | 16:08 |
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| NikolayM | thanks to akuznetsova | 16:08 |
| akuznetsova | and prepared etherpad ^ | 16:08 |
| NikolayM | well done :) | 16:08 |
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| NikolayM | guys, you are welcome to look at it and write comments | 16:09 |
| melisha | akuznetsova: Very good starting point. Thanks! | 16:09 |
| NikolayM | next topic is current status | 16:10 |
| NikolayM | #topic Current status | 16:10 |
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| akuznetsova | as far as we agreed this scheme we can start moving articles to our official site with docs | 16:10 |
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| ^Gal^ | I'm on the execution list table, started working on the action buttons, update, and shorten the output sectioמ | 16:10 |
| ^Gal^ | section* | 16:10 |
| NikolayM | let's tell our status | 16:10 |
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| melisha | I am just about to finish BP: Support large datasets for execution objects - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205190/ | 16:11 |
| gpaz | expiration-policies-for-executions, I m ready for the first push ... | 16:11 |
| NikolayM | my status: worked on with-items-concurrency blueprint, it is fully implemented now and is no review now | 16:11 |
| akuznetsova | I've prepared etherpad with scheme for our future docs and also I've started work on new gates (run unit tests against postgresql) | 16:11 |
| NikolayM | on review* | 16:11 |
| melisha | Updating for LimorS - She is at the process of contributing the Mistral Puppet Module and she started working on qpid support | 16:12 |
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| NikolayM | yes, I've seen that patch to puppet-mistral | 16:12 |
| melisha | Updating for LiatFried - She will start working on the tasks screen soon | 16:12 |
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| NikolayM | So, we haven't any more specific topic for this meeting | 16:13 |
| NikolayM | #topic Open discussion | 16:13 |
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| ^Gal^ | I would love you guys taking a look at the 2 blueprints we suggested, need to get them reviewd | 16:14 |
| ^Gal^ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/tasks-screen-improvments | 16:14 |
| ^Gal^ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dashboard-cron-trigger-screen | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | ok, good | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | NikolayM, as far as I know L2 is coming, will we release Mistral on this week ? | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | #action NikolayM, all: look and review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/tasks-screen-improvments | 16:14 |
| melisha | ^Gal^: I reviewed them and it looks good to me | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | #action NikolayM, all: look and review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dashboard-cron-trigger-screen | 16:15 |
| NikolayM | melisha, that's fine | 16:15 |
| akuznetsova | ^Gal^, UI improvements, super! | 16:15 |
| NikolayM | thanks, melisha | 16:15 |
| NikolayM | yes | 16:15 |
| ^Gal^ | thanks :) | 16:15 |
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| NikolayM | ^Gal^, appreciate your contribution :) | 16:16 |
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| NikolayM | Winson, are you here? | 16:16 |
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| ^Gal^ | sure, np. the whole team helps :) | 16:16 |
| melisha | all: I know we have a workflow builder coming up. Are there plans for Workflow execution graph (that shows the definition / runtime status)? | 16:17 |
| akuznetsova | seems like he it not here, that's pity, cause I have a question for him | 16:17 |
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| NikolayM | hmm, it seems Winson is not with us, I have a question to him... | 16:17 |
| akuznetsova | melisha, yes | 16:17 |
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| NikolayM | melisha, yes, we have this plans | 16:18 |
| melisha | akuznetsova, NikolayM: Is there a BP? Did someone started it yet? | 16:18 |
| m4dcoder | What's up | 16:18 |
| NikolayM | but I'm sure we don't finish this work even in next cycle | 16:18 |
| NikolayM | ooh, hi, m4dcoder! | 16:18 |
| m4dcoder | hey! | 16:19 |
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| akuznetsova | melisha, nobody has started it | 16:19 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, hi | 16:19 |
| melisha | akuznetsova: OK. Thanks. | 16:19 |
| m4dcoder | @NikolayM: you've a question for me? | 16:19 |
| NikolayM | m4dcoder, yes | 16:20 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, me too | 16:20 |
| NikolayM | I saw your patch for running tests on postgres again and have a question | 16:20 |
| akuznetsova | do you plan to continue on it and add ability to run tests against mysql ? | 16:20 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, ^ | 16:21 |
| akuznetsova | *to continue to work | 16:21 |
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| NikolayM | aah, yes, that's the question | 16:21 |
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| NikolayM | so, and why you refused of mysql there? I remebered it was there :) | 16:22 |
| m4dcoder | for postgresql, it's done from a unit test standpoint. i was hoping you can add the devstack gate for it. | 16:22 |
| m4dcoder | as for mysql, it's a lower priority for me. but i can continue to work on it. | 16:23 |
| akuznetsova | melisha, ^Gal^ http://horizon-merlin.mirantis.com/horizon/auth/login/?next=/horizon/project/mistral/edit/ | 16:23 |
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| akuznetsova | here is what we have for the current moment | 16:23 |
| m4dcoder | mysql requires some more work, especially around the timestamp fields. | 16:23 |
| akuznetsova | creds: demo / demo | 16:23 |
| akuznetsova | melisha, ^Gal^ I mean this is a prototype of Workbook Builder | 16:24 |
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| ^Gal^ | nice!!!! | 16:24 |
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| ^Gal^ | that's sweet!! | 16:24 |
| melisha | akuznetsova: Thanks! I saw it on the Vancuvouer Summit. It is very nice. | 16:24 |
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| m4dcoder | you guys want me to separate the mysql and postgresql changes. mysql just requires more work and it's a lower priority for me currently. | 16:24 |
| ^Gal^ | "Here will be a fancy Graph View as soon as we implement it!" :D :D | 16:24 |
| NikolayM | m4dcoder, ok, got you | 16:25 |
| melisha | akuznetsova: I was asking more about an execution graph for viewwing and less about a builder | 16:25 |
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| NikolayM | Can we continue work with it without editing datetime fields? | 16:25 |
| m4dcoder | the unit tests will fail because lacking fractional seconds. | 16:26 |
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| akuznetsova | melisha, I know, I just wanted to show you where we are now, how we can build wb) | 16:26 |
| m4dcoder | so either we hack the unit test or we add a utility to normalize the timestamp values | 16:26 |
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| melisha | akuznetsova: OK. Thanks. It is very cool. | 16:27 |
| NikolayM | m4dcoder, ok, we can do it separately | 16:27 |
| m4dcoder | +1 | 16:27 |
| akuznetsova | melisha, as far as I understand there are should be two graphs: one that shows wb structure and another is for wf execution process | 16:28 |
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| NikolayM | akuznetsova, yes. Static picture and dynamic one | 16:29 |
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| melisha | akuznetsova: I tend to agree. These two views are different. | 16:29 |
| akuznetsova | NikolayM, ok, thanks | 16:29 |
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| melisha | Maybe in the future - the static one will also be a visual builder | 16:29 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, one more question about run_tests | 16:30 |
| NikolayM | melisha, yes, we have the blueprint for that! | 16:30 |
| m4dcoder | akuznetsova: ok, go ahead | 16:30 |
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| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, I tried to run it in devstack gate and got following error: sudo: unknown user: postgres sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin | 16:31 |
| melisha | NikolayM: Thanks. Can you please share the BP? | 16:31 |
| m4dcoder | what distro is the test running on? | 16:31 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, am I right that there are should be 2 "postgres" user: system and db | 16:32 |
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| m4dcoder | just the system | 16:32 |
| m4dcoder | the test creates a db user called mistral | 16:32 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, ubuntu | 16:32 |
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| m4dcoder | if on ubuntu, it's automatically setup for trust for postgres user | 16:32 |
| NikolayM | melisha, it seems that it was deleted by someone | 16:32 |
| NikolayM | it was on LP | 16:32 |
| NikolayM | but now I can't find it | 16:33 |
| melisha | NikolayM: OK. Thanks. | 16:33 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, hmm | 16:33 |
| m4dcoder | akuznetsova: probably will need to troubleshoot | 16:33 |
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| m4dcoder | have you tried locally on your own system? | 16:34 |
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| melisha | <dependency> | 16:34 |
| melisha | <groupId>org.codehaus.jackson</groupId> | 16:34 |
| melisha | <artifactId>jackson-jaxrs</artifactId> | 16:34 |
| melisha | <version>1.9.0</version> | 16:34 |
| melisha | </dependency> | 16:34 |
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| melisha | Sorry :-) | 16:34 |
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| melisha | I should not work while chatting :-) | 16:35 |
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| melisha | all: I noticed that the workflow pagination BP was merged - that is great! Do you know if someone is already working on adding it to the executions API? | 16:36 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, not yet) cause I decided to make test commit and run this tests on our gate | 16:36 |
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| NikolayM | melisha, I guess xylan_kong will work on this | 16:36 |
| NikolayM | now it can be implemented significantly faster | 16:37 |
| melisha | NikolayM: OK. Cool. Yes. I believe so to. | 16:37 |
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| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, I will continue to debug it, if I come to a standstill, I will write to you | 16:39 |
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| m4dcoder | akuznetsova: thanks. feel free to reach out. i'll also run the test on my system again today to make sure it's alright. | 16:40 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, btw how did you test this script ? devstack + postgresql installation or just vm with ubuntu + manual postgresql installation ? | 16:41 |
| m4dcoder | ubuntu + manual postgresql | 16:41 |
| m4dcoder | on a vm | 16:41 |
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| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, ok, thanks | 16:43 |
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| m4dcoder | np | 16:43 |
| NikolayM | guys, do you have any more questions? | 16:43 |
| NikolayM | any more topic to discuss? | 16:44 |
| ^Gal^ | I would like to ask in behalf of us Alcatel-Lucent guys whether could we find an earlier time for the weekly? | 16:44 |
| ^Gal^ | and is such thing good on everyone else's timezone? | 16:44 |
| ^Gal^ | #openstack-meeting-3 seems quite vacant regularly | 16:44 |
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| NikolayM | ^Gal^, ok, I discuss this with our PTL | 16:45 |
| ^Gal^ | thanks, appreciate that :) | 16:45 |
| akuznetsova | as far as I know, current time is not suitable for xylan_kong and rakhmerov too | 16:45 |
| ^Gal^ | yeah and Niu | 16:45 |
| NikolayM | #action NikolayM: talk to rakhmerov about moving weekly meeting to earlier time | 16:46 |
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| melisha | For us - earlier will be better as well. It is now 19:45 | 16:46 |
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| akuznetsova | melisha, like in our timezone (me and NikolayM ) | 16:47 |
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| m4dcoder | then please don't do meet on a monday AM if earlier... it's brutal | 16:47 |
| akuznetsova | m4dcoder, what's time is it in your location ? | 16:47 |
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| m4dcoder | it's 9:47 AM US pacific. please don't make it any earlier on a Monday AM. | 16:48 |
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| ^Gal^ | lol monday morning | 16:49 |
| ^Gal^ | worst time ever :D | 16:49 |
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| melisha | m4dcoder: If it will be ealier on a different day - is it OK? | 16:49 |
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| NikolayM | m4dcoder, we'll take it into account :) | 16:49 |
| m4dcoder | yep, different day ok. evening after 10 PM PST is also ok for me. | 16:50 |
| NikolayM | I suggest to create a doc on google or etherpad for this | 16:50 |
| melisha | Or a doodle - http://doodle.com/en_GB/ | 16:50 |
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| akuznetsova | NikolayM, firstly let's find free slots | 16:50 |
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| NikolayM | ok, yes | 16:52 |
| NikolayM | so, let's end our meeting | 16:52 |
| ^Gal^ | k bye all | 16:52 |
| akuznetsova | bye-bye | 16:53 |
| NikolayM | thanks to all who come us today | 16:53 |
| melisha | Bye | 16:53 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:53 |
| m4dcoder | alright. thx! | 16:53 |
| NikolayM | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 16:53:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
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| melisha | NikolayM: Thank you | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-07-27-16.01.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-07-27-16.01.txt | 16:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-07-27-16.01.log.html | 16:53 |
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| sarob_ | anyone here for training-guides? | 17:06 |
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| sarob_ | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 17:06:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:06 |
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| sarob_ | i have been busy on things not training this last month | 17:07 |
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| sarob_ | i can report that we are running the upstream game again in two weeks | 17:08 |
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| sarob_ | so i can update the upsteam content with some new details | 17:08 |
| sarob_ | i have slides published | 17:09 |
| sarob_ | #link http://www.slideshare.net/SeanRoberts1/4-hr-upstream-training | 17:09 |
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| sarob_ | thats all i have | 17:09 |
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| sarob_ | evening guys | 17:09 |
| dguitarbite_ | hello | 17:10 |
| sarob_ | and girls | 17:10 |
| Sayali | Hello | 17:10 |
| sarob_ | i have 20 minutes before i have to get to another meeting | 17:10 |
| sarob_ | i was just noting for the log | 17:10 |
| sarob_ | that my team is doing the upstream training again in two week | 17:11 |
| sarob_ | in sunnyvale | 17:11 |
| sarob_ | i need to update the upstream content with reed direction | 17:11 |
| sarob_ | with new content | 17:11 |
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| sarob_ | thats all i have | 17:11 |
| dguitarbite_ | sarob_: We are planning to give labs scripts a separate repository. | 17:11 |
| AndroUser | Hi | 17:12 |
| AndroUser | This is vigneshvar | 17:12 |
| dguitarbite_ | Would make it easier to work with install-guides | 17:12 |
| sarob_ | okay, i remember that was the plan from the summit | 17:12 |
| dguitarbite_ | and make it integrate with the CI system | 17:12 |
| sarob_ | right | 17:12 |
| reed | sarob_, the conversation about UT in Tokyo has started on the community list, btw | 17:12 |
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| reed | I won't be able to pay much attention to it this time around | 17:12 |
| sarob_ | reed: right, i will review | 17:12 |
| sarob_ | reed: understood, | 17:13 |
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| sarob_ | reed: you interested in joining for the sunnyvale 06aug event? | 17:13 |
| Sayali | reed I wanted to know if we could get a slot at the upstream training for a workshop | 17:13 |
| Sayali | I sent out an email regarding the same | 17:14 |
| reed | sarob_, I doubt it | 17:14 |
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| reed | Sayali, it's better to coordinate with Tim and Loic | 17:14 |
| dguitarbite_ | reed: | 17:15 |
| dguitarbite_ | I would likew to join in | 17:15 |
| Sayali | reed: alrighty | 17:15 |
| reed | I suggest to join community@lists.openstack.org and keep the conversation there | 17:15 |
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| Sayali | Sure thing | 17:16 |
| sarob_ | im planning on arriving for the weekend before the summit | 17:16 |
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| sarob_ | i have to leave in 10 min | 17:19 |
| sarob_ | any other updates? | 17:19 |
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| Sayali | Nothing from my side | 17:20 |
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| vigneshvar | Sorry if I missed, any updates on the floating ip issue | 17:21 |
| sarob_ | vigneshvar: not from me, i have been absent | 17:21 |
| sarob_ | any other team updates? | 17:21 |
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| dguitarbite_1 | nothing much from my side | 17:21 |
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| sarob_ | vigneshvar: osbash has a problem with floating IPs? | 17:22 |
| vigneshvar | There is a delay | 17:22 |
| vigneshvar | And the issue is not consistent either | 17:23 |
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| sarob_ | vigneshvar: file a bug? | 17:24 |
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| Sayali | Sarob there is a patch addressing the issue currently | 17:24 |
| vigneshvar | Roger has posted a patch, i think he did file a bug | 17:25 |
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| sarob_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203439/ | 17:27 |
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| sarob_ | looks like it waits for the VMs to be avail by icmp | 17:27 |
| sarob_ | no bug referenced though | 17:28 |
| sarob_ | i have to go | 17:28 |
| sarob_ | i can keep this meeting open or close it if nothing else for today | 17:28 |
| vigneshvar | Nothing more from me either | 17:29 |
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| sarob_ | okay cheers y'all | 17:29 |
| sarob_ | #endmeeting | 17:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 17:29:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-07-27-17.06.html | 17:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-07-27-17.06.txt | 17:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-07-27-17.06.log.html | 17:29 |
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| sarob_ | #startmeeting akanda | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 18:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'akanda' | 18:00 |
| sarob_ | agenda | 18:00 |
| sarob_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda#Agenda | 18:00 |
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| sarob_ | roll call | 18:01 |
| puranamr | o/ | 18:01 |
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| sarob_ | adam_g, davidlenwell? | 18:02 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 18:02 |
| sarob_ | i think markmcclain is traveling | 18:02 |
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| sarob_ | #topic semver | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "semver (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:04 | |
| sarob_ | i updated the semver patches | 18:04 |
| sarob_ | im going to tag late jun with the existing version | 18:05 |
| sarob_ | we continue to discuss new numbering/version | 18:06 |
| sarob_ | moving on | 18:06 |
| sarob_ | #topic critical bugs | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "critical bugs (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:06 | |
| sarob_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1475781 | 18:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1475781 in akanda "ak-rug-serv consumes all the cpu" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to davidlenwell (dlenwell) | 18:07 |
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| sarob_ | is committed so we are past that | 18:08 |
| sarob_ | outstanding | 18:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1475781 in akanda "ak-rug-serv consumes all the cpu" [Critical,Fix committed] | 18:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1475781 in akanda "ak-rug-serv consumes all the cpu" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1475781 | 18:08 |
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| sarob_ | is the nova bug that is impacting us | 18:08 |
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| sarob_ | hmm, it looks merged too | 18:10 |
| sarob_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1476402 | 18:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476402 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "boot fails on network /w only an ipv6 subnet, AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get'" [Low,Fix committed] | 18:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1476402 in nova "boot fails on network /w only an ipv6 subnet, AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get'" [Low,Fix committed] | 18:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1476402 in nova "boot fails on network /w only an ipv6 subnet, AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get'" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476402 | 18:10 |
| sarob_ | uvirtbot is acting wierd | 18:10 |
| uvirtbot | sarob_: Error: "is" is not a valid command. | 18:10 |
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| sarob_ | bad uvirtbot | 18:10 |
| sarob_ | davidlenwell: can you update us on the status of the patch chain adam_g and you were working on? | 18:11 |
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| davidlenwell | afaik adam was pushing to get them landed | 18:12 |
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| davidlenwell | he had a work around.. but I have not looked at it since friday | 18:12 |
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| sarob_ | we have quite a backup of patches for akanda-rug | 18:15 |
| davidlenwell | yep | 18:15 |
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| sarob_ | which is this? | 18:15 |
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| davidlenwell | starts here .. now that its passing tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203875/ | 18:17 |
| sarob_ | ah, right | 18:17 |
| sarob_ | ohh, you bad | 18:17 |
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| davidlenwell | yeah .. sorry .. I read ryans review as a plus 2 | 18:18 |
| sarob_ | wonder why he is only +1? | 18:18 |
| sarob_ | never the less, critical patch to move through | 18:19 |
| davidlenwell | yeah | 18:19 |
| davidlenwell | it is passing tests so I said f it | 18:19 |
| sarob_ | hopefully it will take less than 6hours to merge | 18:19 |
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| sarob_ | no reference in the patch to the bug | 18:20 |
| davidlenwell | the gate queue is short at the moment | 18:21 |
| sarob_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203846/ | 18:21 |
| sarob_ | got merged an hour ago | 18:21 |
| sarob_ | may want to follow up patch rug to use master again instead of pulling down the now merged patch | 18:22 |
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| adam_g | sorry guys | 18:24 |
| sarob_ | adam_g: np daddyo | 18:24 |
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| sarob_ | adam_g: you were on the same wavelength, just different channel :) | 18:25 |
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| adam_g | ya just noticed the nova bug is landed | 18:25 |
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| sarob_ | adam_g: yup | 18:25 |
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| sarob_ | adam_g: you follow up the rug patch then | 18:26 |
| adam_g | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203875/ | 18:26 |
| adam_g | ^ should be all thats needed to unnblock master | 18:26 |
| sarob_ | adam_g: rock on | 18:26 |
| sarob_ | other critical bugs | 18:26 |
| sarob_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1473629 | 18:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1473629 in akanda "Akanda-rug local repo part of install is set to master for stable branches" [Critical,New] | 18:26 |
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| adam_g | stable brances will be bork till i get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198146/ thru | 18:27 |
| sarob_ | patches are up | 18:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1473629 in akanda "Akanda-rug local repo part of install is set to master for stable branches" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473629 | 18:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1473629 in akanda "Akanda-rug local repo part of install is set to master for stable branches" [Critical,New] | 18:27 |
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| sarob_ | ah, right | 18:27 |
| adam_g | ya, that stuff is blocked on that patch i posted | 18:27 |
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| adam_g | but should be trivial once thats done | 18:27 |
| sarob_ | thats one of the messiest patches yet | 18:28 |
| adam_g | ya, not surprisingly it was missing something from a similar patch to kilo :) | 18:28 |
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| sarob_ | so lastly critical bugs | 18:30 |
| sarob_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1477381 | 18:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1477381 in akanda "rug-ctl browse fails with no route to host" [Critical,New] | 18:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1477381 in akanda "rug-ctl browse fails with no route to host" [Critical,New] | 18:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1477381 in akanda "rug-ctl browse fails with no route to host" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477381 | 18:30 |
| sarob_ | uvirtbot, stop that | 18:31 |
| uvirtbot | sarob_: Error: "stop" is not a valid command. | 18:31 |
| davidlenwell | lol | 18:31 |
| sarob_ | whatever... | 18:31 |
| davidlenwell | that will teach you to argue with bots | 18:31 |
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| sarob_ | bad bot | 18:32 |
| sarob_ | so this patch looks close to merge as well, being dependent on the others above | 18:32 |
| sarob_ | thats all the critical bugs | 18:32 |
| sarob_ | posted right now | 18:33 |
| sarob_ | glad we are almost through them | 18:33 |
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| sarob_ | moving on | 18:33 |
| sarob_ | #topic https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-2 | 18:33 |
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| sarob_ | looks like we are slipping a bit | 18:34 |
| sarob_ | just a bit ;) | 18:34 |
| sarob_ | lets get those specs merged asap | 18:35 |
| sarob_ | next release, im going to harp on getting specs merged right after the summit | 18:36 |
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| sarob_ | lets review and merge the three spec patches | 18:36 |
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| sarob_ | and get the others up for review | 18:37 |
| sarob_ | we can slip to LM3 for some of these | 18:37 |
| adam_g | when is L2? | 18:37 |
| sarob_ | this week | 18:37 |
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| adam_g | oh, party | 18:38 |
| sarob_ | indeed | 18:38 |
| sarob_ | party | 18:38 |
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| sarob_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193680/ | 18:39 |
| sarob_ | davidlenwell: i think you agreed with the spec | 18:40 |
| sarob_ | davidlenwell: it just needs another | 18:40 |
| adam_g | sarob_, actually ineedd to WIP that | 18:40 |
| adam_g | oh wait | 18:40 |
| adam_g | nvm thats the other one | 18:40 |
| adam_g | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194882/ (PEZ) is dependent on the cluster one | 18:41 |
| adam_g | i'll stack them | 18:41 |
| sarob_ | okay cool | 18:41 |
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| sarob_ | thanks davidlenwell | 18:41 |
| adam_g | ha, nvm | 18:41 |
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| sarob_ | any comments on | 18:41 |
| sarob_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194847/ | 18:41 |
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| sarob_ | seems pretty straightforward | 18:42 |
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| sarob_ | anyone? | 18:43 |
| puranamr | o/ | 18:43 |
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| sarob_ | bueller? | 18:44 |
| * adam_g readng | 18:44 | |
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| adam_g | +2 | 18:45 |
| sarob_ | rock on | 18:45 |
| sarob_ | anyone else? | 18:45 |
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| sarob_ | sigh | 18:48 |
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| sarob_ | moving on | 18:48 |
| sarob_ | #topic any other business | 18:48 |
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| adam_g | nothing here | 18:48 |
| sarob_ | the project merging with openstack org repo | 18:48 |
| sarob_ | is proceeding | 18:49 |
| sarob_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194892/ | 18:49 |
| sarob_ | there is a workaround for the outstanding trademark question | 18:49 |
| sarob_ | it is being explored | 18:50 |
| sarob_ | feedback from the foundation within weeks | 18:50 |
| adam_g | interesting | 18:50 |
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| sarob_ | im looking to encourage intel, huawei, and tacker to contribute to our project | 18:51 |
| sarob_ | once davidlenwell has the driver spec up | 18:52 |
| sarob_ | merged that is | 18:52 |
| sarob_ | i will go after those teams to start working with us | 18:52 |
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| sarob_ | thats all i have | 18:53 |
| sarob_ | davidlenwell, puranamr: anything else? | 18:53 |
| puranamr | that is all for now from my side | 18:53 |
| sarob_ | puranamr: can you post a rough draft of your vm footprint spec today? | 18:54 |
| puranamr | will try, there is another high prio task that is consuming cycles. but will try my best | 18:55 |
| sarob_ | davidlenwell: ? | 18:55 |
| davidlenwell | nothing else from me | 18:55 |
| sarob_ | cool | 18:56 |
| sarob_ | 4 minutes to y'all then | 18:56 |
| sarob_ | cheers | 18:56 |
| sarob_ | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 18:56:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-07-27-18.00.html | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-07-27-18.00.txt | 18:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-07-27-18.00.log.html | 18:56 |
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| Shamail | Hi everyone, Carol won't be able to join today since she is in the air. I'll be kicking it off in one minute. | 19:00 |
| MeganR | sounds good, ty | 19:01 |
| Shamail | MeganR: When can we talk about the other stuff that I owe you? | 19:01 |
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| MeganR | good question :) | 19:01 |
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| MeganR | what are some times you are avail? | 19:01 |
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| Shamail | I can make most times work Wednesday or late afternoon today. | 19:02 |
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| Shamail | PM or Email me with whatever works for you | 19:02 |
| Shamail | #startmeeting Product Working Group | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 27 19:02:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Product Working Group)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 19:03 |
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| Shamail | Hi all! Who's here today? (roll call) | 19:03 |
| MeganR | Hi | 19:03 |
| Shamail | Just us two? | 19:04 |
| Shamail | Hmm, if it's just us then I might cancel it for today. Thoughts? | 19:05 |
| MeganR | I guess so - that works | 19:05 |
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| Shamail | There a lot of midcycles and stuff in progress now. | 19:06 |
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| Shamail | There are a lot* | 19:06 |
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| MeganR | and vacations as well | 19:07 |
| Shamail | I will probably start a discussion of the agenda items on the ML. We have a lot of things to get done and not much buffer. | 19:07 |
| Shamail | good point | 19:07 |
| sarob_ | o/ | 19:08 |
| Shamail | Hi sarob_! | 19:08 |
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| sarob_ | Shamail: hi | 19:08 |
| Shamail | I am debating if we have enough to cover the agenda items. | 19:08 |
| Shamail | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 19:08 |
| Shamail | We have MeganR, you, and I. | 19:08 |
| Shamail | Should we pick and choose some items from the agenda that we can address? (e.g. BoD update review, etc) | 19:09 |
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| sarob_ | i advised rocky on the repo patch | 19:09 |
| sarob_ | im not sure where she took it | 19:09 |
| Shamail | #topic Use Case Repo Update - Rocky and Sean | 19:09 |
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| Shamail | Did she submit a patch set? If so, can you link it? | 19:10 |
| sarob_ | not that i ever saw | 19:10 |
| sarob_ | ill double check | 19:10 |
| sarob_ | hold a sec | 19:10 |
| * Shamail checks too | 19:10 | |
| Shamail | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197754/ | 19:10 |
| sarob_ | yup | 19:11 |
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| sarob_ | it needs a few more TC +1 | 19:11 |
| Shamail | Yeah | 19:11 |
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| Shamail | It looks good though | 19:11 |
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| Shamail | Great! | 19:12 |
| Shamail | #topic Board Update Slide Deck Final Review | 19:12 |
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| * Shamail copying link... hold on. | 19:12 | |
| Shamail | #link https://my.syncplicity.com/share/zrlahrrakidkc29/Product%20WG%20BoD%20Update%20-%20July%202015%20draft%2013 | 19:13 |
| Shamail | This is the latest draft of the presentation that Carol and I will use tomorrow | 19:13 |
| Shamail | We have incorporated feedback from the User Committee and several Board Members | 19:13 |
| Shamail | Do you want to take 5 minutes to look through the slides and then we can open up the discussion? | 19:14 |
| MeganR | yes please | 19:14 |
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| Shamail | Sounds good | 19:14 |
| sarob_ | looks good | 19:15 |
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| Shamail | Thanks, the main edits were along how tightly coupled this group is to the User Committee and the addition of the "Recognize" objective. | 19:16 |
| Shamail | MeganR: Did you go through it too? Any feedback? | 19:17 |
| MeganR | slide #6 is cutting off the Cross Project Coordination section | 19:17 |
| MeganR | might just be my viewer | 19:17 |
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| sarob_ | MeganR: there is a delay for rendering | 19:17 |
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| Shamail | Maybe, it is formatted properly in my screen. | 19:18 |
| Shamail | Are you using the "view" option? | 19:18 |
| Shamail | If so then, as sarob_ said, rendering is laggy | 19:18 |
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| MeganR | I am - and yes, it took a bit for some of the slides to load | 19:18 |
| MeganR | looks good - there is a lot of information in these slides! | 19:18 |
| Shamail | Good news is that we have 30 minutes on the agenda now. | 19:19 |
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| Shamail | still a lot to cover! | 19:19 |
| MeganR | wow - that's great | 19:19 |
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| Shamail | Alright, thanks for the feedback. If you look at them again and you notice something, please email me. I will be able to make changes until 8A tomorrow. ;) | 19:20 |
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| MeganR | ok, that sounds good! | 19:20 |
| Shamail | I haven't looked at the exact time for the Product WG agenda item but as soon as I find it... I will send an email to the ML so that interested parties can dial-in for the update portion. | 19:20 |
| Shamail | Rocky and Nate will be attending in person | 19:20 |
| MeganR | ok, good idea - thank you | 19:20 |
| Shamail | #topic Recognition Discussion | 19:21 |
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| Shamail | As a part of the deck review, we were told to consider recognition for people helping complete the user story implementation | 19:21 |
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| Shamail | and making general, strategic, contributions | 19:22 |
| Shamail | We brainstormed to come up with some of the ideas on slide 9 but wanted to have the discussion in our meeting since we (as a team) have never discussed this as something we would be doing. | 19:22 |
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| Shamail | sarob_: This partly ties into one of the unstructure sessions at CLS that we both attended too | 19:23 |
| sarob_ | hmm, okay | 19:23 |
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| Shamail | I'll start the conversation with a question | 19:23 |
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| Shamail | questions* | 19:23 |
| Shamail | Should we work with the Foundation to help operate a recognition program for contributions that "Solve problems that prevent future technical debt in an area that has a diverse/broad impact that can appreciated by the majority of the OpenStack community" | 19:24 |
| Shamail | ? | 19:24 |
| Shamail | And secondly, if so... Is that our charter or do we recommend spinning up some other group/effort to manage that criteria, operations, and general program? | 19:24 |
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| MeganR | I think a recognition program is a great idea, however, I agree with a sub-team to run with this - I can see this taking a lot of time | 19:25 |
| sarob_ | i forgot where we left it with ttx | 19:25 |
| MeganR | how would we receive "nominations" | 19:25 |
| sarob_ | was he planning on following up as well? | 19:26 |
| Shamail | No, but I think a follow up is probably in order. | 19:26 |
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| Shamail | Other people wanted to figure out strategic contributions too. | 19:26 |
| Shamail | MeganR: Good question, the very loose critera right now is: Reduce technical debt, implement the most prioritized user stories in a single release, reduce barriers to adoption, reduce LoC w/o impairing functionality, etc. | 19:26 |
| MeganR | ok, that's a good start | 19:27 |
| Shamail | But A) Is this the right list? B) How do you track those items? | 19:27 |
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| Shamail | Seems more qualitative | 19:27 |
| Shamail | I'll mark that as an action sarob_ (to follow up with ttx) | 19:27 |
| Shamail | #action Discuss the "recognition" topic with ttx as a follow-up to CLS discussion | 19:28 |
| sarob_ | okay | 19:28 |
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| Shamail | MeganR: Sub-team seems like a good start. That will let us make progress and also gauge the level of effort. | 19:28 |
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| Shamail | Alrighty, moving on! | 19:28 |
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| sarob_ | i think the simplest is to create an apache badge fork project | 19:29 |
| sarob_ | but ill continue to discuss with ttx | 19:29 |
| Shamail | Sounds good | 19:29 |
| Shamail | Please feel free to pull in any of as you see fit | 19:29 |
| Shamail | #topic Ops Mid cycle Meetup Session Coverage Plan | 19:30 |
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| Shamail | We were told multiple times that the ops summit is a great place to build user stories but that we would have to offer scribe type services to get the most feedback possible. | 19:30 |
| Shamail | We need to figure out how many of us are attending and how to spread ourselves for converage. | 19:31 |
| Shamail | Carol has put an Product WG overview on to the ops agenda | 19:31 |
| MeganR | I just added my name to the etherpad | 19:31 |
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| Shamail | We are hoping that we can share the user story template by then | 19:31 |
| Shamail | Thats great Carol! | 19:31 |
| Shamail | MeganR: ! | 19:31 |
| MeganR | :) | 19:32 |
| Shamail | sorry I was about to write something that Carol said lol | 19:32 |
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| Shamail | Carol also wanted us to figure out the Cross Project Liaisons for key project teams | 19:32 |
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| nateziemann | we have a list for attendance at the PWG meet-up. is there an etherpad to track how many of us will be at Ops? | 19:32 |
| Shamail | nateziemann: not that I know of... | 19:33 |
| Shamail | Do you want to take a poll on the ML? | 19:33 |
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| Shamail | That would be a great starting point to know how much we can accomplish at the ops summit | 19:33 |
| nateziemann | it would be a subset of the folks that updated our etherpad right. Can we just update that and send out to the ML? | 19:34 |
| Shamail | There is a more definitive source than the etherpad.. let me find it... brb | 19:35 |
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| Shamail | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/Product_WGLibertySprint | 19:35 |
| Shamail | This is the definitive list | 19:35 |
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| Shamail | and, yes, it would probably be a subset. | 19:35 |
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| MeganR | Thank you - I will update the Wiki page | 19:36 |
| Shamail | We can add an Ops Summit column and send it to the ML so that people can enter that data | 19:36 |
| Shamail | Thanks MeganR | 19:36 |
| nateziemann | perfect | 19:36 |
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| Shamail | There, I just updated the page with the new column | 19:37 |
| Shamail | nateziemann: Do you mind sending the email asking people to update the newly added column? | 19:38 |
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| Shamail | Okay, so I think we need to park the ops summit topic until we get a better sense of attendance. Agree? | 19:38 |
| MeganR | Agree | 19:39 |
| nateziemann | agree. | 19:39 |
| Shamail | Thanks! | 19:39 |
| Shamail | Last topic... | 19:39 |
| nateziemann | I will send out request to ML. | 19:39 |
| Shamail | #topic Product Work Group Mid cycle Meetup Agenda | 19:39 |
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| Shamail | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/productwg-liberty-midcycle-meetup | 19:39 |
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| Shamail | Please start proposing ideas for topics at the upcoming Product WG mid-cycle... | 19:40 |
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| Shamail | I plan to add Roadmap as a discussion item | 19:40 |
| MeganR | perfect - I was going to ask about that | 19:40 |
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| Shamail | Heidi Joy from the OpenStack Foundation will be joining us partly for the mid-cycle and she will be working with our team on the roadmap updates | 19:41 |
| Shamail | We have made great progress over the last couple of weeks in terms of cadence, responsibilities (Product WG and Foundation), and next steps. | 19:41 |
| Shamail | I am hoping we can spend time at the mid-cycle to move into execution | 19:41 |
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| Shamail | MeganR: I haven't sent out updates yet because of travel... I am hoping we can start the feedback collection by milestone-3 | 19:42 |
| Shamail | Thanks for adding it to the etherpad nateziemann | 19:42 |
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| Shamail | If you can think of additional topics then lets add them to the proposed agenda. | 19:43 |
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| * Shamail thinks the two day mid-cycle will be insanely productive | 19:43 | |
| nateziemann | how about finalizing the use case template. | 19:43 |
| Shamail | +1 (if not done before then) | 19:44 |
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| Shamail | I plan to send an email out about it later this week. | 19:44 |
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| Shamail | Have received a lot of good feedback... | 19:44 |
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| Shamail | sarob_: which day would you be in Seattle? first or second? | 19:45 |
| sarob_ | first | 19:45 |
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| Shamail | Thanks | 19:45 |
| Shamail | Let's try to propose items by next week and then start planning the actual schedule. | 19:46 |
| Shamail | That is all that we had for today. | 19:46 |
| Shamail | #topic Open Session | 19:46 |
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| sarob_ | nothing more from me | 19:46 |
| Shamail | Anything else that we should discuss? | 19:46 |
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| Shamail | Great! I will send the schedule details about the Product WG update to the board | 19:47 |
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| Shamail | See you tomorrow nateziemann! | 19:47 |
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| Shamail | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 27 19:47:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-07-27-19.02.html | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-07-27-19.02.txt | 19:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-07-27-19.02.log.html | 19:47 |
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