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anteaya#startmeeting third-party08:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 08:04:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)"08:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'08:04
lennybanteaya: hi08:04
anteayahi lennyb08:04
anteayahow are you?08:04
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lennybthanks, how are you nowdays?08:05
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anteayagood thank you08:05
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anteayahow is your patch coming along?08:05
lennybwho can give us +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206513/08:06
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anteaya#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206513/08:07
anteayanicely done08:07
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anteayait will get reviewed in time08:07
anteayagood work getting agreement on the patch08:08
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anteayawhat else shall we discuss?08:08
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lennybI have nothing to discuss today08:09
anteayaah okay08:09
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anteayayou wrote a nice email to the list when asking to comment on tempest patches08:11
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lennybwell... it broke our CI and we posted few Nova CI job as failed due to this issue.08:12
anteayayou presented your case well08:12
anteayado you use disk image builder?08:12
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anteayaif you do there is a patch you might want to review08:13
anteaya#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21112408:13
lennybno, we dont have disc builder08:14
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anteayaI'll hang around for a bit more in case anyone else shows up with a question08:15
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anteayathanks for being here08:15
anteayaI don't want to keep you if you have other things to do08:15
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anteayathanks lennyb08:15
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lennybhave a good day08:24
anteayathanks you too08:25
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anteayawell I'll close up for today08:40
anteayathank you08:40
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api12:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 12:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)"12:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_api'12:00
alex_xuanyone at here today?12:00
alex_xuas we have new meeting time for this meeting12:00
alex_xuclaudiub: hi12:00
claudiubhellou :)12:01
alex_xuwaiting one more minutes to see if more people join12:01
sdaguehey all12:01
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alex_xu#topic Actions from last meeting12:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: nova api)"12:02
alex_xuone for johnthetubaguy, about catch with me about api work status, I think its done12:03
johnthetubaguyroughly done, yes12:03
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alex_xuanother for sdague, we have new agenda!12:03
alex_xu#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaAPI12:03
sdagueyep, done - woot12:03
alex_xusdague: thanks for the new agenda!12:03
alex_xulet's moving on12:04
sdagueso I feel like that's roughly the right standing agenda, but if people think other major sections should be there just speak up12:04
alex_xu#topic API infrastructure12:04
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alex_xusdague: yea, that help to track our work also12:04
alex_xufirst one, 'v2.0 on v2.1'12:05
alex_xuany command for sub topic?12:05
sdaguealex_xu: not really12:05
sdagueyou can change #topic12:05
sdagueor not, depending on how you feel12:05
alex_xu#topic v2.0 on v2.112:05
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alex_xufor relax api validation, there only left one patch12:06
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-relax-validation,n,z12:06
sdague#info 3 of 4 patches merged for API validation relaxation needed for v2.0 on v2.112:06
alex_xusdague: thanks12:06
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sdaguealex_xu: ok, great, anything else needed, or do we think that with that final patch we're good?12:06
johnthetubaguyI think the next step is reaching out for folks to test it out12:07
alex_xusdague: no more, from my view, the final patch is good12:07
sdaguedo we have a tempest job set up for this configuration?12:07
johnthetubaguyI think mikal had offered to help with that12:07
sdagueeven in experimental12:07
johnthetubaguysdague: good point, that too12:07
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alex_xuso we create new job for this?12:08
johnthetubaguyto test it out, I think we should12:08
johnthetubaguyonce thats green we could look at moving the existing jobs over12:09
sdagueok, I can take that one for next week12:09
johnthetubaguymaybe neutron jobs all run v2.1 for v2, non-network stay on the old?12:09
sdague#action sdague to build experimental devstack/tempest job to test v2.0 on v2.112:09
johnthetubaguysdague: would that work?12:09
alex_xusdague: thanks12:09
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: so, let's prove it works. We probably need to rethink the overall test plan for Nova about what's important and trim our jobs accordingly12:10
sdaguebut that's a different conversation12:10
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johnthetubaguysdague: +1 to all that12:10
sdagueok, I think we can move on from this one. I'll review the patch once the meeting is over12:11
johnthetubaguyI am getting ahed of my self12:11
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alex_xusdague: after the test job, then we can change the endpoint?12:11
sdaguealex_xu: yeh, I think so, we just have to have a story on what existing installs will do12:12
sdaguelet me poke at it a bit and I'll let you know12:12
alex_xusdague: ok, thanks12:12
alex_xu#topic policy.json updates to remove admin hard code at the db level12:12
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-api-policy-final-part,n,z12:13
alex_xujust left three patches12:13
sdagueare we done done after those 3 patches?12:13
alex_xusdague: yes, we are done12:13
sdaguebecause I feel like new patches always appear on this stop12:13
sdagueok, awesome.12:13
sdague#info 3 patches left to merge before policy.json updates to remove admin hard code at the db level is done12:14
sdaguethat's a really nice place to be in12:14
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alex_xuthere are a lot of elvated context in the code, but we can cleanup them in the future12:14
* johnthetubaguy also opens those patches for review12:15
alex_xu#topic Test collapse of v2.0 and v2.112:15
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sdaguealex_xu: ok, cool. Do you think those will be done this cycle or in Mitaka?12:15
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: do we have a plan of when to do that,?12:15
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alex_xuin the M I think, we can create a bug for low hanging fruits12:16
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alex_xugood for new contributor in nova12:16
johnthetubaguyI guess there is no reason to wait, maybe add it to the list next to log cleanups12:16
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johnthetubaguy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-low-hanging-fruit12:16
johnthetubaguyits listed in here:12:16
sdagueyeh, but it would be good to track as API infrastructure cleanup in Mitaka cycle12:17
johnthetubaguy+1 for tracking it, we can create a blueprint like we have for objects12:17
sdague#info elevated_context cleanup will happen in Mitaka cycle12:17
johnthetubaguyyeah, lets keep moving12:17
sdagueyeh, even with low hanging fruit we should set a timeline12:17
sdagueotherwise we get stuff like mox living forever12:18
sdagueagreed, back on topic :)12:18
sdagueok, test collapse of v2.0 and v2.112:18
alex_xu#action /me create bp for elevated context cleanup and update low-hanging fruit etherpad12:19
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:merge_sample_tests,n,z12:19
johnthetubaguyis that list complete as well? or are there more patches to come?12:19
alex_xulooks like more pach come up12:19
johnthetubaguyso I am tempted to pause this, after these patches12:19
alex_xuI'm not sure, we should check with gmann12:20
sdagueit would be good to get some idea about how far along we are12:20
sdagueeven if just roughly12:20
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sdaguelike are we 50% done now?12:20
johnthetubaguyyeah, very true12:20
sdague80% done12:20
alex_xuand I think remove v3 depend on this12:20
alex_xuwhen we move api sample tests12:20
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sdaguewell, we'll just move different files if this is done or not12:20
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: it shouldn't have to, well I think remove v3 is way more important12:20
johnthetubaguysdague: +112:20
sdagueand I agree, removing v3 in the tree is way more important12:21
sdagueit will definitely merge conflict with that12:21
johnthetubaguyit would make it clearer if we have old_stuff and merged stuff in separate directories12:21
alex_xuok, there should be a way skip that12:21
johnthetubaguyyeah, I am thinking we stop the merge to make sure the rename can happen12:21
johnthetubaguybut anyways, lets get info on how close that is12:21
sdague#info put merge of v2.0 / v2.1 tests on hold until v3 removal is complete12:22
johnthetubaguyI am more worried about moving the API code rather than the tests, as silly as that sounds12:22
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: yeh, I think that's fair12:22
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sdagueand I think it's fair to put this on hold a bit, and focus on the v3 removal. We can merge test fixes / collapse after freeze as well, right?12:22
sdagueI thought tests and docs were typically fair game during the rc period12:22
johnthetubaguyyeah, thats true12:23
johnthetubaguyalthough I would rather be merging bug fixes12:23
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johnthetubaguydocs totally, not sure about the test clean ups12:23
johnthetubaguythey sound like a distraction12:23
johnthetubaguyalthough back port problems are good to avoid12:23
sdaguemaybe, I feel like they are typically not very hard to review, and make things easier later12:24
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sdagueanyway, we're agreed to pause on the test collapse for now?12:24
sdagueif so, I think we can move on12:24
alex_xusdague: or check with gmann first?12:25
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sdagueoh, I guess there is an action for gmann to get a status on how complete the whole effort is12:25
johnthetubaguyI think we delay for now, and check with gmann12:25
johnthetubaguylets report back here next week12:25
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sdague#action get status from gmann on overall completeness of the v2.0 / v2.1 test collapse12:25
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johnthetubaguyits a soft freeze, I don't want to -2 them all, thats a waste of time, if they merge, they merge12:26
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alex_xuok, let's move on12:26
sdaguethough, honestly, kenichi and I are typically the only ones reviewing them, so I doubt they will merge without us actively pushing it12:26
sdaguealex_xu: +112:26
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johnthetubaguysdague: exactly my thinking12:27
alex_xusdague: yea, I help few review before and will continue12:27
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alex_xu#topic Removal of v3 naming from source tree12:27
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sdaguealex_xu: right, sorry, I meant from a +2 perspective12:27
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alex_xusdague: yea12:27
alex_xuthere are two patches for moving legacy v2 code is ready I think12:28
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1462901,n,z12:28
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sdagueok, great. I'll look hard at these right after the meeting12:28
alex_xusdague: thanks12:28
edleafemorning, alex_xu12:28
edleafesaw your commits12:28
alex_xuedleafe: morning :)12:28
sdagueedleafe: it was a little adhoc, alex_xu asked, and I wasn't going to be here on friday, so said go for it :)12:28
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edleafehave you started on step 3 yet?12:29
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alex_xunot yet12:29
edleafesdague: cool. I'll adjust my calendar12:29
alex_xustep 3 will be moving v2.1 code to toplelve12:29
edleafealex_xu: I can do that, since your day is winding down now12:29
alex_xuedleafe: thanks12:29
sdaguealex_xu: so we should start with - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211356/ right?12:29
sdaguethere are 2 patch series listed under that bug12:30
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alex_xusdague: yes12:30
alex_xuedleafe: can you abandoned this one https://review.openstack.org/19372512:30
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edleafealex_xu: yeah, I was planning on it12:30
alex_xuedleafe: and I think we can move json-schema separately12:30
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sdaguealex_xu: sounds reasonable. So I think that for these patches if we agree that changes are required, we should just respin among the team. I'd hate to delay these because folks are asleep.12:32
alex_xuedleafe: for moving v3, should we create resource directory in one step.12:32
johnthetubaguysdague: +112:32
johnthetubaguyI think this small steps approach is proving way easier to review, lets keep it going12:32
sdaguelets kind of keep an active conversation going in #openstack-nova during the day until we get them merged12:33
johnthetubaguyif we are worry about partial merges of the chain, I think we can sort that out later12:33
johnthetubaguysdague: I wonder if we want to block the first one till we have a good few lined up?12:33
edleafesdague: should we -W them until they are all ready? Then release them all at once to avoid multiple rebase hell?12:33
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: honestly, as long as we are committed to getting this in regardless, let's just grind on them12:33
edleafejohnthetubaguy: jinx (sort of)12:33
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sdaguebecause procedural stuff just triggers various additional delays, we end up in a situation where something is wip, the author is asleep, and then we need to get 3 hrs of testing rerun to merge12:34
edleafealex_xu: not sure what you mean12:34
edleafealex_xu: about the resource directory12:34
alex_xuthe v2 moving can waiting for v2.1 moving, I guess there isn't too much conflict for v2 moving12:34
sdaguealex_xu: can we get an etherpad with what you think the various additional patches would be?12:35
johnthetubaguysdague: OK, that makes sense12:35
sdaguethen we can get details there as well about next steps12:35
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alex_xusdague: ok, will create one after the meeting12:35
sdaguealex_xu: thank you12:35
alex_xuedleafe: let's talk about v3 step off the meeting12:35
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edleafealex_xu: sure12:36
alex_xulet's move on12:36
alex_xu#topic API Documentation Improvement12:36
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alex_xusdague: ^ any idea?12:36
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sdaguea couple of things12:36
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sdagueI spoke with annegentle last week about how to get a new concept guide published to the API site. She's going to help with that infrastructure.12:37
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sdagueWe need to write that concept guide. Honestly, I expect that will wait until we get these release critical patches merged.12:37
sdagueonce we do, I'll write up a documentation plan and start in on some of that content12:38
sdagueand hopefully get others to participate12:38
alex_xusdague: cool12:38
sdaguethat's it on that topic so far, I hope we'll get more focus on it in Mitaka12:38
alex_xusdague: release critical patches means ?12:38
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sdaguethe v3 remove12:39
alex_xuthis is Mitake work item?12:39
sdaguealex_xu: honestly, I hope we get some of it done before the release12:39
alex_xusdague: ok12:40
sdaguedocumentation doesn't go into freeze the same way as the rest of the release12:40
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sdaguewe can move on to the next couple of topics12:40
alex_xu#topic API futures - specs12:40
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alex_xunothing listed at here12:41
alex_xuso let move on?12:41
johnthetubaguythere are some in the etherpad I guess12:41
johnthetubaguybut fixes that needed specs12:41
johnthetubaguyI think I have +2ed them, but need to get other drivers to approve them12:41
johnthetubaguysorry, I got distracted with the previous docs topic12:42
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sdagueso, the intent here is we should have a list of all specs with API changes in them that are up for review12:42
johnthetubaguyI think we agreed docs was the most important thing for liberty, so I would love to see some progress there, however small it is12:42
sdaguebecause, in reviewing some of the API changes in code, we had some late fixes needed12:42
sdaguewhich has blocked a few of those for the release12:42
johnthetubaguyyeah, there are a few of those, we should keep tracking them12:42
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: are all nova-specs with API changes getting tagged with APIImpact currently?12:43
sdagueif not, could we ask for that12:43
johnthetubaguysdague: they should be, we usually add it if not12:43
johnthetubaguysdague: we do ask for it already, just no everyone does it12:43
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johnthetubaguys/just no/just not/12:43
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alex_xusdague: you want to go through all the apiimpact spec in this topic?12:44
edleafeI've seen several reviews in the last cycle where reviewers asked to add APIImpact12:44
sdagueok, something isn't working with that query12:44
sdague#action sdague to find gerrit query to pull all API changed specs12:45
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alex_xuI have link for dashboard12:46
alex_xuhope this helpful12:46
sdagueoh, it has to be lower case12:46
sdagueok, good call12:46
sdagueso once specs get approved for the cycle, we should then also be tracking all the patches that are relevant to those changes12:47
sdaguewhich would be the next topic12:47
sdaguethat will probably require a query that we keep updated with the latest approved blueprints for that cycle12:47
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alex_xusdague: ok12:48
alex_xufrom the priorit etherpad12:48
alex_xuI think there is one api bug fix is more important12:48
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198622/212:48
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: ^^12:49
alex_xuit's about we missing porting an API from v2 to v2.112:49
alex_xuand we already get agreement on how to fix it12:49
johnthetubaguyyeah, that ones important12:49
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: iirc the functional code for that is ready to go, it just needs procedural approval12:49
johnthetubaguyI had +2ed it, it lost that vote12:49
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johnthetubaguyso I thought I reached out to some driver folks, but doesn't seem like any of them got to that12:50
johnthetubaguylets re-apply our +1s as a start12:50
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alex_xuok, no more on this topic, maybe next week12:51
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sdagueI think the last thing is the 'nmi' interface12:51
sdaguejust to round up where we stand on that12:51
sdagueI -1ed that patch because it's weird semantics for our API12:51
sdagueand I feel like it should have been "crashdump" in the API, and nmi is an implementation detail12:52
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202617/12:52
sdaguegiven timing, we probably need to revisit the interface in mitaka12:52
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: that your feeling as well?12:52
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* alex_xu need think about more12:53
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sdagueok, well johnthetubaguy has -2ed it, so we'll revise next cycle12:55
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alex_xuok...let's move on12:55
johnthetubaguyyeah, it feels like the deadline has passed for new features now12:55
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johnthetubaguy(sorry being bombarded in openstack-nova)12:55
sdagueno prob12:55
alex_xu#topic API futures - patches for approved specs12:55
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alex_xuanything for this?12:56
sdaguealex_xu: well, we were kind of just on that topic :)12:56
edleafethe nmi stuff feels like the cpu features12:56
sdagueso let's just jump to open discussion12:56
alex_xusdague: yea...12:56
alex_xu#topic open12:56
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edleafetoo specific to an architecture12:56
alex_xuI forget to ask, what plan for removing extension?12:56
sdagueI have one question. I'm going to write up the extensions deprecation document this week, so we can have some clarity12:56
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sdaguebut my question is "where" should it be12:57
edleafealex_xu: aren't they supposed to be deprecated in Liberty?12:57
alex_xuwe are pretty late for this. maybe just deprecate some config option for extension for this release?12:57
sdaguebecause, this partially feels like a liberty spec, even though late12:57
alex_xuedleafe: we want to12:57
sdagueit could be devref (but it feels like a spec)12:57
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alex_xuand next week is propose freeze12:58
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edleafeif it's going away, probably not devref, right?12:58
sdagueI don't want to make it a backlog or mitaka spec because we do really want to flag extensions as a deprecated topic before we're done12:58
sdaguewith liberty12:58
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: need some guidance here12:58
johnthetubaguyso I think we need to deprecate those configs12:58
alex_xuI think let's check if we can do thing for user visible thing first12:58
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johnthetubaguyI am happy to just approve a blueprint for that, unless we feel it needs a spec?12:59
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: well I'm happy to write up the overall spec with items that get done for liberty in there12:59
sdagueI feel like the whole of the transition to no extensions is probably spec worthy13:00
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sdaguethere seems to be a lot of confusion at times, and there have been nova channel fights over it, so we should write down the whole path13:00
johnthetubaguyis there stuff beyond deprecating the configs that we need to merge this cycle?13:00
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johnthetubaguysdague: yeah, thats very, very true13:00
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: we should also merge some document that signals this is going away for real in a couple of cycles13:01
sdaguebeyond just config deprecation13:01
johnthetubaguyI think we could do that in devref in those patches13:01
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: ok, devref it is13:01
alex_xuwe run out of time....13:01
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johnthetubaguysdague: let me know the BP, and I can get that approved13:01
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johnthetubaguysdague: I think thats the best option this late in the cycle13:02
johnthetubaguy(given how hard it was to merge the other specs at this point)13:02
sdagueyep, thanks folks13:02
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alex_xuyea, thanks all, let move to openstack-nova13:02
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: ok, I'll do a futures spec for the whole arc then13:02
* johnthetubaguy feels happier about the progress reports now, thank you sdague!13:02
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Qiming#startmeeting senlin13:02
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'senlin'13:02
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Qimingpls add agenda here if you have topics: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda13:03
Qimingjust the 3 of us?13:03
yanyanhuI think haiwei and linxinhui are also here?13:04
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yanyanhuthey are still in senlin channel I guess13:05
Qimingokay, let's go ahead13:05
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Qimingthey can check the minutes if cannot join at the moment13:05
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Qiming#topic liberty-3 milestone targets13:06
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Qiminghi, heyongli13:06
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haiweisorry, a little late13:07
Qimingwe still have some backlog to handle, but most of them are related to unit tests13:07
Qimingdon't worry, we just got started13:07
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Qimingas for the unit test coverage, the latest number is 78%13:07
Qimingthere are still some under review13:07
Qiminganother work is about triggers, I'll jump on to that in the following days13:08
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yanyanhuI think unit test of senlin service won't be a big problem13:09
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Qimingfor liberty-3 goals, I'm listing them as separate topics for discussion today13:09
yanyanhuI believe we can achieve our goal before deadline13:09
Qimingthat would be good13:09
yanyanhuwhat I'm a little worried about is the unit test of client13:10
Qimingbefore moving on to other topics, haiwei, do you have some updates on exception handling?13:10
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yanyanhuit seems to be a big workitem13:10
haiweiI have done that a little, recently13:10
Qimingright, saw your patches13:10
Qimingbut it won't be an one night job as far as I can see13:11
Qimingwe will continue work on improving things along the way13:11
haiweiwhat's difficult I think is how to catch the internalError in upper layer13:11
Qimingyep, that would be a case by case analysis and handling13:11
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haiweiI also noticed one thing that senlin make all the ignore_missing as True13:12
Qiminghaiwei, just posted some comments on that13:12
haiweithat means the driver will return None, if the resource is not found13:12
haiweiok, I will check that later13:12
Qimingdefaulting ignore_missing to False would be the right thing, except for those xyz_delete() methods13:13
Qimingif you want to delete a resource, and the resource is not found, it should be okay13:13
Qimingother than that, it should be treated separately13:13
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haiweiI will think about it13:13
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Qimingwe haven't started the client unit tests work13:14
Qimingshould start that asap13:14
yanyanhuthat's great. I saw the patch of start point13:14
Qimingthere are quite something outdated in the interaction with SDK13:14
yanyanhuyes, especially we are still using resource call I think13:15
Qimingas we add more resources to SDK, the client code will be change a lot13:15
yanyanhuin client side13:15
Qimingright, that may render the test cases for them a waste of time --- they would have to be rewritten13:16
Qimingwill think about it and work out a framework13:16
yanyanhuif you and haiwei dont have enough bandwidth, I will also work on it after finish functional test related jobs13:16
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Qimingwhen we are filling the holes for test case coverages, please help review13:16
Qimingsometimes, I cannot find which one has been merged, sometimes, have to rebase a lot things if patches are not reviewed in time13:17
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Qiminglet's move on13:17
Qiming#topic functional testing updates13:17
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Qimingso we have functional testing gate job set up13:18
yanyanhuyes, we are in good progress I think :)13:18
QimingI' wondering why it is not triggered every time when patches drop in?13:18
yanyanhusince it is experimental now13:18
yanyanhuso if we want gate to help run functional test, we need manually trigger it by adding comments like 'check experimental'13:19
QimingI understand it has been set non-voting13:19
Qimingokay, I see13:19
yanyanhuthis is a recommended way to add functional test when we can't ensure it can work correctly13:19
Qimingthanks for clarification13:19
yanyanhuno problem :)13:19
Qimingis it working as expected so far?13:20
Qimingfor some simple tests?13:20
yanyanhuafter it can work correctly, we will move it to check pipeline13:20
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yanyanhuseems not...13:20
Qimingpls help diagnose then13:20
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Qimingit is really important for a stable service13:21
yanyanhuI think there could be some problems when gate setup the basic test environment which includes senlin service13:21
Qimingwe are not creating just a toy13:21
yanyanhuwill do that13:21
Qiminglet's move on13:21
Qiming#topic clusters of containers13:21
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Qimingthis is something we plan to show case during the coming summit13:22
QimingJulio has been helping doing some investigations13:22
Qimingand some students from Tongji univ have been working on that since early this month13:23
Qimingthe progress is amazing, I can say13:23
Qimingthe students were able to create a cluster of Docker containers in three days13:23
lkarmcan we see a demo? or are there instructions somewhere to test it ourselves13:24
Qimingthey were not that familar with any OpenStack code before13:24
haiweithey use magnum to do that?13:24
Qimingthey gave us a demo via webconference13:24
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Qimingnot yet, they created their own python program to call Senlin APIs13:25
Qimingcreate profile, prepare cloud-config scripts, create VM clusters, start dockers inside VMS13:25
haiweigreat !!!13:26
yanyanhuyep, I think those guys are excellent13:26
QimingI was shocked ...13:26
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Qimingso, after some discussions with the team yesterday, we have assigned some more tasks to them13:26
lixinhui_It is a interesting cooperation between senlin and container13:26
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Qimingplay with load-balancing policy and auto-scaling policy13:26
Qimingstand up some meaningful apps from inside containers13:27
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Qimingthe chosen app would be wordpress13:27
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Qimingif things are all going well, we may coach them on doing auto-scaling based on container metrics next week13:28
Qiminglkarm, I'll ask the team to record something that can be shared13:29
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lkarmthat would be great! would love to see it13:29
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Qimingif there are thoughts on improving/polishing the demo case, please share with the team13:30
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QimingI've already asked the team to try use Senlin to create Docker bay in Magnum13:31
Qimingwould be curious to see if that is possible13:31
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Qimingany suggestions on this work?13:32
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Qimingokay, let's move on13:33
yanyanhudo we need to revise the code of magnum?13:33
Qiming#topic open discussions13:33
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Qimingyanyanhu, yes, that is inevitable13:33
Qimingteam will create a branch for experiments13:33
yanyanhuok, so if it is something like plugin or driver, that would be nice13:34
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QimingI'm planning to collect their work here: https://github.com/tengqm/conclusur13:34
Qimingthat would depend on Magnum's design13:34
Qimingconclusur = CONtainer CLUster SUR13:35
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haiweinot to senlin directory directly?13:35
Qimingno, it would be a work for magnum13:35
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yanyanhunice, hope they can update their work soon, then other guys can help to review and give some comments13:36
Qimingthere would be some sample profiles that can be checked into senlin project13:36
Qimingyanyanhu, that's the plan13:36
Qimingoh, forgot to add an item about the HA (high-availability) work13:37
lixinhui_I am also interested at auto-scaling + container demo13:37
lixinhui_let me know the demo when it is ready13:37
Qiminglixinhui_, you are a hero, you can do everything, :)13:37
haiweia little confused, their jobs will be invited to senlin finally, right?13:37
Qiminghaiwei, it will be a show case of Senlin13:38
Qimingbut the code should go to Magnum13:38
Qimingif is an application from Senlin's perspective13:38
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Qimingthere would be something we can harvest in the end13:39
haiweigot it, it's just like a use case how magnum uses senlin?13:39
Qimingthat is already a very strong argument how useful senlin could be13:39
Qimingokay, back to the HA discussion13:40
Qiminglixinhui and I visited China Mobile this afternoon13:40
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Qimingfor a discussion on the coming NFV summit presentation proposal13:40
Qimingwe will try to demonstrate to those telecom vendors how Senlin could help achieve service resiliency13:41
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Qimingthe conclusion is that we will show three things in the presentation13:42
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Qiming1. placement policy 2. HA for stateful apps (VNFs) 3. HA for stateless apps (VNFs)13:42
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Qimingthe good news is that lixinhui has already prototyped an integration of Senlin with VMware DRS service13:43
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Qimingthough it is only about placement policy (something we can still improve), it is a very good starting point already13:44
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Qimingthe OpenNFV summit is scheduled at early November13:44
Qiminghopefully, we can have all three scenarios supported by then13:45
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Qimingthis would be another strong evidence how Senlin could enable different usage scenarios13:45
lixinhui_Yes, will make efforts there13:45
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lixinhui_Not just NFV, High availability is super important13:46
lixinhui_even to VMware openstack product VIO13:47
lixinhui_but I think senlin provide a super good/flexible structure/framwork13:47
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lixinhui_to resolve end2end HA13:47
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Qimingglad to hear that13:48
yanyanhuyes, agree. actually besides HA policy, placement policy is a place to provide HA ability as well13:48
yanyanhualthough maybe in different layer13:49
lixinhui_Yes, Yanyan. So we can cooperate together to show this capability.13:49
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yanyanhudefinitely :)13:49
Qiminganything else?13:50
yanyanhuI want to talk a little bit about driver plugin workitem13:50
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yanyanhusince we have started this work and have finished nova_v2 related support, maybe we can start use this way to refer to nova driver :)13:51
Qimingbtw, in case you are interested in how VMware DRS is integrated with Senlin, please check it here: https://vmware.webex.com/vmware/lsr.php?RCID=76dafb3818d14ed69a99f49fdcf1a4ef13:52
yanyanhusure, we are absolutely interested in it :)13:52
Qimingyanyanhu, it all looks good so far13:52
Qimingbasically this enables Senlin to talk to different clouds13:53
yanyanhuyes, that's our purpose to do this job13:53
QimingI'd suggest we make the 'SenlinDriver' a global var lazily initialized13:53
yanyanhuwe hope to provide more flexibility using this way to manage drivers13:53
yanyanhuagree with this13:54
Qimingbut considering that lazy loading may bring some new problems13:54
Qimingwe can postpone that later13:54
yanyanhuand we need to refresh this variable each time reload engine13:54
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yanyanhuI think maybe I can give an introduction with more details about this job next week13:55
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yanyanhuto let everybody know more about it13:55
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Qimingif we have a global var, we will have cloud.compute(...) instead of driver_base.SenlinDriver().compute(params)13:56
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Qimingsure, please add an item on the agenda13:56
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Qiming3 minutes left13:57
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Qimingare we done?13:57
yanyanhuno more topics from me13:57
Qiming2 mins13:58
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Qimingseems we are done13:58
Qimingthanks for joining, guys13:58
Qimingtalk to you next week13:58
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-08-11-13.02.html13:58
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-08-11-13.02.txt13:58
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mestery#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 14:00:25 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:00
mestery#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda14:00
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mesteryLots of bugs to discuss today, some Liberty-3 items as well14:01
mesterySo, lets get rolling14:01
mestery#topic Announcements14:01
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mestery#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule14:01
mesteryLiberty-3 is 3 weeks away14:01
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mesteryThus, the FF is 3 weeks away14:01
mestery#info Liberty-3 and the FF are 3 weeks away14:01
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mestery#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Liberty_Release_Notes14:01
mestery#info Liberty Release Notes can begin to be populated for things which have already landed14:02
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mesteryIt's going to be a long 3 weeks I suspect :)14:02
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mesteryOr a fast 3 weeks14:02
regXboiI vote for #214:02
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mesteryAny other announcements anyone wants to share with the team?14:02
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regXboiwe've got convergence on the multinode DVR job in the pipeline14:03
* regXboi is dancing14:03
regXboi#link http://goo.gl/EAugSi14:03
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mestery#info The multinode DVR job has converged with the single node DVR job14:03
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mesteryregXboi: Is the plan to propose a patch to remove the single node DVR job later this week?14:03
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regXboimestery: yes - I'm planning that for Friday am, if all goes well14:04
regXboimestery: and make the multinode voting14:04
mesteryregXboi: Excellent, thanks for jumping in on DVR!14:04
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mesteryOK, lets move on in the agenda now14:04
mestery#topic Bugs14:04
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mesteryFirst up:14:04
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147719214:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1477192 in neutron "neutron test_multi_prefix_slaac failing in the gate with ping failures starting around 7/22" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Henry Gessau (gessau)14:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1477192 in neutron "neutron test_multi_prefix_slaac failing in the gate with ping failures starting around 7/22" [High,Confirmed]14:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1477192 in neutron "neutron test_multi_prefix_slaac failing in the gate with ping failures starting around 7/22" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147719214:04
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mesteryHenryG: I assigned this one to you to have an IPv6 minion examine further. Ack if that sounds manageable.14:05
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ihrachyshkalate o/14:05
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mesteryThanks HenryG14:06
mesteryNext up14:06
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/146117214:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed]14:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed]14:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146117214:06
mesteryThis one looks to have 21 failures from the logstash query in the description14:06
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mesteryI'll assign this to the L3 team for further triage unless someone wants in on it14:07
amullermestery: if you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=functional-tests14:07
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amullerwe currently have 4 bugs reported on 4 different tests in the functional job failing every so often14:07
amullereach individual test doesn't have a high failure rate14:07
mesteryamuller: Ack on that14:07
amullerbut the 4 combined...14:08
mesteryThat's where the fun starts amuller, math always makes things fun ;)14:08
amullerI'd appreciate anyone picking up any of those 414:08
mlavallemestery: we'll llok at this bug in the L3 team14:08
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mesterymlavalle: Thanks mlavalle14:08
mesteryOK, next up14:08
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/143969614:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1439696 in neutron "Referencing a lb-healthmonitor ID for the first time from Heat would fail" [High,Confirmed]14:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1439696 in neutron "Referencing a lb-healthmonitor ID for the first time from Heat would fail" [High,Confirmed]14:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1439696 in neutron "Referencing a lb-healthmonitor ID for the first time from Heat would fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143969614:09
mesterydougwig: This looks like an LBaaS V1 bug to me, I think you concurred in the bug14:09
mesterydougwig: Given we have to keep LBaaS around for Liberty before removing it in Mitaka, I suspect this one needs a patch.14:09
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dougwigmestery: ok, i'll find someone to look at this one. no status update now.14:10
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mesterydougwig: Yup, sounds good, thanks.14:10
mesteryNext up14:10
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/140474314:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed]14:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed]14:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140474314:10
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dougwiglb or ovs?14:11
mesteryThis one has a large number of hits using the logstash query provided (475 last time I looked)14:11
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mesterydougwig: OVS14:12
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mesteryNext up14:12
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/137873214:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1378732 in neutron "migrate_to_ml2 script doesn't work for Juno release" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Mark McClain (markmcclain)14:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1378732 in neutron "migrate_to_ml2 script doesn't work for Juno release" [High,Confirmed]14:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1378732 in neutron "migrate_to_ml2 script doesn't work for Juno release" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137873214:13
mesterymarkmcclain: From the trail in the bug, it's unclear if this one is still relevant. If you get a moment, can you eyeball and update please?14:13
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mesteryAnd finally we have14:14
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/116356914:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1163569 in OpenStack Security Notes "security groups don't work with vip and ovs plugin" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Steven Weston (steve.weston)14:14
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mesterydougwig: Another LBaaS V1 bug for triaging :)14:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1163569 in ossn "security groups don't work with vip and ovs plugin" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116356914:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1163569 in ossn "security groups don't work with vip and ovs plugin" [High,In progress]14:14
mesteryIt's your lucky day14:14
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dougwigaye. is this a feature by design, or a simple oversight when it was first implemented?14:14
salv-orl_mestery: this is so old my hairs were still brown when it was filed14:14
mesterysalv-orl_: Heh :)14:15
mesterydougwig: Unsure, it's possible we mark this as Incomplete for now.14:15
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mesterydougwig: Lets circle back post meeting on this one.14:15
salv-orl_definetely lbass v114:15
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mesteryThat's all I had for High priority bugs not currently "In Progress"14:15
dougwigthis one is tricky, since third party drivers might run afoul of the iptables rules we'd add.14:15
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* mestery doesn't see emagana or Sam-I-Am so skips a doc update14:16
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mlavallemestery: did you assign https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1404743 to someone?14:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed]14:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140474314:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1404743 in neutron "sporadic test failures due to VMs not getting a DHCP lease" [High,Confirmed]14:16
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mesterymlavalle: I did not, are you up for that one?14:16
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mlavallemestery: we are looking at it in the l3 team14:16
regXboimestery: there is another bug in the offing relating to SSH failures - let me try and dig up the logstash query and file it14:16
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mesteryregXboi: Thanks14:17
mesterymlavalle: Sounds good!14:17
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salv-orl_btw, that's not as critical as it seems. Failure occur in bursts. so you have a lot of hits on the same job14:17
mlavallemestery: I will change the tag, same for the other one you gave us14:17
mesterymlavalle: Thanks14:17
mesterysalv-orl_: Your wisdom is, as always, most welcome :D14:17
mesteryOK, lets keep things moving14:18
mestery#topic Why Third-Party CI Systems Should Not Be Allowed To Vote -1 (e.g. the section of the meeting most likely to lead to Bike Shedding)14:18
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mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/20719814:18
* dougwig gets out his rollers.14:18
mesteryI know armax has some issues with my strong language here, which I'm fine fixing, but who wants to defend voting -1 from third-party CI systems?14:19
salv-orl_mestery: I stopped voting with my CI for a while now14:19
dougwigi will. a -1 from a reliable 3rd party CI is a useful thing, as it affects query filters.14:19
* mestery hugs salv-orl_ 14:19
dougwigthat said, i don't vote -1 either.14:19
salv-orl_nobody looks at that vote unless it's a -1. If that's an honest -1 they ignore it14:19
xgermanwe might want that in Octavia with our Sonar thing14:19
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salv-orl_if it's a ci issue they bark14:19
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xgermanit’s not like official OpenStack tooling has a lot of static code analysis tools14:20
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salv-orl_I need my CI to know when something breaks our plugins. Not to warn other developers that they're breaking my plugin.14:20
dougwigi'd like folks to see if they're making a backwards incompatible change.  not to have all 20 plugin maintainers play constant catchup.14:21
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salv-orl_still, if people working on the reference control plane would keep in mind the DB classes are meant to be purely mgmt plane, that would be great14:21
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* salv-orl_ rant over14:21
mesteryI'm honestly agnostic to this change, but that's my take on third-party CI in general.14:21
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mesteryI won't repeat my rant from the summit on this topic, mostly to spare the handful of people paying attention here14:21
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anteayaxgerman: we are open to building openstack tooling that meets code analysis needs14:22
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anteayaif someone is willing to offer the spec and build it14:22
anteayawe will offer reviews14:22
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dougwiganteaya: i think they're using a proprietary tool to do the analysis.14:22
dougwigdoes that still work?14:22
xgermanit’s open source - ish14:23
anteayaI have no interest in propietary toolking14:23
ajoanteaya (offtopic) a python code indexer like linux cross ref project would also be amazing for openstack too ;)14:23
dougwiganteaya: that was my guess. :)14:23
anteayawell it has to be open scource to be considered openstack infra tooling14:23
anteayadougwig: okay thanks14:23
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mesteryFolks, I'd just like to close on this "third party CI voting"14:23
johnsomWe are trying out sonarqube which is LGPLv314:23
anteayaajo: I have no argument, spec, agreement, build14:23
mesteryI didn't see anyone other than dougwig jump in to defend it14:23
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dougwigit is 8am, who else is here? :)14:24
xgerman7 am14:24
mesteryI guess I'll reference the meeting in the review since, per usual, this meeting has low attendance /cc dougwig14:24
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mesteryLets move along14:24
mestery#topic Liberty-3 BPs and Specs14:24
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mestery3 weeks left14:24
mestery#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-314:24
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mesteryI've created a handy dandy gerrit dashboard for folks who wanted one14:25
mestery#link https://goo.gl/x9bO7i14:25
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mesteryMOAR YELLING14:25
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regXboimestery: MOAR ???14:25
mestery#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/071786.html14:25
mesteryregXboi: It's a meme ;)14:26
carl_baldwinmestery: Is this link the qos pecan only dash?14:26
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mestery^^^ For those who want to read more than a tl;dr here14:26
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vikram_#join /openstack-neutron14:26
mesterycarl_baldwin: That link is for all Essential/High/Medium L3 BPs14:26
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mesteryAs you can see, it really needs some love from folks with patches to update their topics14:26
mesteryFor it to be more useful than it is14:27
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* mestery thinks we should have a poll on how people discover patches to review14:28
mesteryNext up14:28
mestery#topic Merging QoS and pecan back14:28
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mesteryihrachyshka promised me a feature/qos "merge into master" commit this week yet14:29
ihrachyshkaI guess here I need to say smth...14:29
mesteryI remain hopeful we can fold that back in soon enough14:29
ihrachyshkaso basically, we plan to squash remaining patches prior to merge-back in next hours.14:29
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ihrachyshkathen I'll create a merge-back patch + send an email with some info/links14:29
ajoI tested it manually, and looking good after fixing a nit14:30
ajowhich is up for review & merge :)14:30
ihrachyshkaand then I expect other cores to jump on it, and do review :)14:30
mesteryajo ihrachyshka: Nice work14:30
ihrachyshkamestery, we will need you to push remaining things, but I guess that's about it until we are in master14:30
ajoI will put down some instructions on how to test it, and a video to show how it works14:30
mesteryI should note that when this merge commit comes out, please do not nitpick it. The plan would be to merge it and if people really want to bike shed on it, lets file a bug to fix post-merge back.14:31
mesteryihrachyshka: Thanks for the update14:31
ihrachyshkawe hope that documentation we provide will be enough to start with reviews, but anyway, we'll be avail to answer questions14:31
mesteryihrachyshka: Excellent14:31
ihrachyshkamestery, I am for nitpicking14:31
dougwigi don't think merge commits have diffs, anyway.14:31
ihrachyshkaas long as it does not block the merge14:31
ihrachyshkawe are happy to handle it post-merge14:31
mesteryihrachyshka: You can borrow dougwig's paint brush14:31
ihrachyshkadougwig, you fetch it, then git diff origin/master...HEAD14:32
mesteryihrachyshka: We'll have it in the merge queue before anyone can do that :P14:32
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dougwigihrachyshka: real work tends to scare away bike shedding.  :)14:32
ihrachyshkameh. I will digress.14:32
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mesteryI know kevinbenton salv-orl_ and blogan are working on some (final?) patches for feature/pecan14:33
mesterySo we can fold that back into master in an experimental state14:34
mesteryMaybe next week14:34
salv-orl_mestery: I think there are still a bit of TODOs to address to make it functionally equivalent with the eventlet wsgi framework14:34
salv-orl_we'll se how many of them will be squashed in this week and then we'll reassess next week14:34
mesterysalv-orl_: Ack on that, I expect this one to get a FF exception already anyways, now I've said it :P14:34
salv-orl_mestery: at the end of the day is an optional, self contained, component14:35
mesterysalv-orl_: Yup14:35
salv-orl_getting rid of it is a simple as doing git rm -rf neutron/newapi14:35
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mestery#topic Open Discussion14:36
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* mestery passes coffee around14:36
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dougwigneed some eyeballs on the new lbaas horizon work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206797/14:36
* salv-orl_ recalls happy meetings when something else was being passed around14:36
* mestery smacks the redbull out of dougwig's shaking hand14:36
dougwigit's in a new repo, so it's easy to miss.14:36
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amullermaybe this is the forum to bring up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210766/, which adds a very opionated testing coverage doc to Neutron14:37
amulleror opinionated if you insist on correct spelling14:38
amullerI'd appreciate if anyone can sit down and give that doc some thought14:38
mlavallesalv-orl_: i am working on a new feature where i have added an attribute to ports in the old wsgi / api implementation. do I need to reimplemennt in the new pecan framework?14:38
salv-orl_amuller: opiated works too for me.14:38
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ajosalv-orl_ I will take it opiated too..14:39
salv-orl_amuller: the obvious comment from somebody pedant like me is that as long as you're happy to maintain it that's ok for me14:39
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amullersalv-orl_: that is one thing I can commit to yes14:39
salv-orl_mlavalle: kevinbenton has a mechanisms for loading existing extensions in pecan, so that's ok14:39
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mlavallesalv-orl_: :-)14:39
amullersalv-orl_: reviewers will have to keep our various .rsts in mind, if a patch adds tests to something that is marked as X there, then that patch should also update the .rst14:40
mesteryamuller: At some point it would be fun to look at OVS sandbox for testing or even the container stuff marun is working on for non-neutron stuff. That holds promise for multinode testing on a single host :)14:40
mesteryamuller: But that's all future stuff, not exactly relevant to this doc right now.14:40
amullermestery: aye14:40
mesteryamuller: Thanks for your continued efforts on Neutron testing, this doc is fantastic to see14:40
mesteryOK, that about does it.14:41
mesteryWith less than 3 weeks until FF, the pressure is on.14:41
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mesteryThanks for your continued support and efforts on OpenStack Neutron.14:41
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morgan_503breton: you're ~5 mins early17:55
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morgan_503ajayaa, amakarov, ayoung, breton, browne, davechen, david8hu, dolphm, dstanek, ericksonsantos, geoffarnold, gyee, henrynash, hogepodge, htruta, jamielennox, joesavak, lbragstad, lhcheng, marekd, morganfainberg, nkinder, raildo, rharwood, rodrigods, roxanaghe, samueldmq, stevemar, topol, wanghong17:58
morgan_503Courtesy Ping for ... uh.. people.17:58
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lbragstadmorgan_503: o/17:58
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dstanekcourtesy pong17:59
samueldmqhey, I am ready for another battle17:59
samueldmqdstanek, hehe17:59
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gyeesamueldmq, battle?!17:59
stevemarsamueldmq: no battles needed17:59
samueldmqgyee, yeah, dynamic policies, you know17:59
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gyeeno need for battle, all love fest, just like summer of 196918:00
morgan_503#startmeeting keystone18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 18:00:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is morgan_503. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
david8husamueldmq, vs18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)"18:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
morgan_503#topic Agenda18:00
*** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: keystone)"18:00
morgan_503#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting18:00
lbragstadgyee: I was about -20 then18:00
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samueldmqgyee, ++ hehe18:01
morgan_503#topic Centralized Policies Distribution18:01
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samueldmqdavid8hu, just kidding :) it has been fun to run with it18:01
samueldmqand there we go18:01
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morgan_503we have lots to cover18:01
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morgan_503so... going to timebox some.18:01
samueldmqso, operators feedback is what we missed on this point18:01
morgan_503you have ~15m18:01
samueldmqpeople know what we want to this cycle (distribute centralized policies)18:02
samueldmqwe had the specs, etc, and we got operators feedback18:02
gyeesamueldmq, we'll bring it in up in the ops midcycle next week18:02
samueldmqmorgan_503, got it, thanks18:02
gyeeunder "burning issues"18:02
david8husamueldmq, will talk to the operators18:02
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samueldmqso, operators feedback18:02
samueldmq#link https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org/msg02805.html18:03
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samueldmqabout customizing and distributing we got things like:18:03
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samueldmq"Not the easiest task to either get right, or make sure that the files are distributed around in an HA setting.  But absolutely necessary." - Kris G. Lindgren, Senior Linux Systems Engineer at Go Daddy18:03
samueldmqand others, so I think the lack of stackholders shouldn't be an issue anymore18:03
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samueldmqand I'd like to request an official decision on the SFE request18:04
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samueldmq(since we still don't need a FFE)18:04
samueldmq#link https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg57416.html18:04
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samueldmqany objection? comment? :)18:05
samueldmqmorgan_503, should we vote? or anything else?18:05
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morgan_503sure. can start a vote unless someone has something else to add18:05
bretonhow ready is it?18:05
samueldmqgyee, yes, bringing it up in the ops midcycle is great, however independent from having it approved internally, given the good feedbacks, good progress in the code/specs18:06
morgan_503regardless of state it will be classified as expirimental and optional in liberty at best18:06
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lbragstaddo we have a sponsor?18:06
samueldmqbreton, all the code/specs is under https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/dynamic-policies-delivery,n,z18:06
gyeesamuldmq, I am all for it18:06
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morgan_503pending adoption and/or solving outstanding critical issues in mitaka it could be considered for stable18:06
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henrynashmorgan_503: let;s calrify thta…since when I asked that before, ayoung said it would not be experimental18:06
samueldmqbreton, specs have 2x +2, code is 90%+ submitted and reviewable18:07
morgan_503it will be expirimental or i -218:07
morgan_503it is the same as all new code in keystone18:07
lhchengsamueldmq: I've been pinging our core operations team to give a feedback, but we have a use case for centralizing the policy file. It is more nice to have, but not critical.18:07
morgan_503a cycle for sussing out before contract is set in stone18:07
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ayoungcan we approve the spec for backlog?18:07
* morgan_503 plays PTL card on this one18:07
samueldmqI agree it is experimental18:07
henrynashmorgan_503”: ++18:07
gyeeyou build it, we'll kick the tire18:07
henrynashayoung: I already +2’d if fo rthat18:07
morgan_503so i'm happy to vote on SPFE, which would in turn allow the specs to be approved for liberty18:08
samueldmqlhcheng, nice, one more good feedback in the list, thanks18:08
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morgan_503no need to backlog shuffle for the ones targeted at this cycle18:08
samueldmqmorgan_503, yes I agree with you and henrynash on the experimental flag18:08
morgan_503so any concerns before vote?18:08
morgan_503ayoung: any spec can be approved for backlog18:08
morgan_503ayoung: no SPFE etc needed ever.18:08
ayoungmorgan_503, I know...It was more a call to action than a request for approval18:09
morgan_503ok so.18:09
breton#vote yes18:09
morgan_503opening vote in... 1min unless someone says otherwise18:09
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dstanek*do it*18:09
samueldmqayoung, we are voting on making it possible to merge them to L18:09
samueldmqayoung, o/18:09
morgan_503#startvote Approve SPFE for policy distribution and scaffolding for dynamic policy? yes,no,i_dislike_concrete_options_but_still_vote_yes18:10
openstackBegin voting on: Approve SPFE for policy distribution and scaffolding for dynamic policy? Valid vote options are yes, no, i_dislike_concrete_options_but_still_vote_yes.18:10
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.18:10
ayoung#vote yes18:10
bknudson#vote yes18:10
gyee#vote yes18:10
morgan_503#vote yes18:10
samueldmq#vote yes18:10
bknudsonif it's experimental then do whatever you want18:10
breton#vote yes18:10
dstanek#vote yes18:10
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morgan_503#vote i_dislike_concrete_options_but_still_vote_yes18:10
david8hu#vote yes18:10
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henrynash#vote yes18:10
lbragstad#vote i_dislike_concrete_options_but_still_vote_yes18:11
morgan_5031m left on vote18:11
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lhcheng#vote yes18:11
bknudsonI'm not signing up to review the changes. If others don't review it then it's not going to get in.18:11
* lbragstad had to try out the new option 18:11
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dstaneki think there are still a few details i dont' like, but we can work  them out18:11
jamielennoxdon't care18:11
morgan_503bknudson: *nod*18:11
lbragstadthat's why I asked if there was going to be sponsor18:11
dstanekbknudson: i've been reviewing a bit and working with samueldmq18:11
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samueldmqdstanek, thanks18:11
gyeelbragstad, on my todo list18:11
openstackVoted on "Approve SPFE for policy distribution and scaffolding for dynamic policy?" Results are18:11
openstackyes (9): gyee, dstanek, ayoung, lhcheng, bknudson, david8hu, samueldmq, henrynash, breton18:11
openstacki_dislike_concrete_options_but_still_vote_yes (2): morgan_503, lbragstad18:11
morgan_503ok so i think that is a yes.18:12
dstanekayoung: you win!18:12
samueldmqmorgan_503, looks right :)18:12
ayoungWhaddaya know...miracles do happen18:12
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gyeedstanek, he's like Charlie Sheen, he always wins18:12
henrynashI also think that we must be careful in terms of priority, in Kilo, reviews of Fernet tokens (whcih was an SFE) took precedence over other things that where dubmitted before the deadline…some of which didn’t get in….that can’t happen again18:12
morgan_503ayoung, samueldmq: please respond to the ML thread reference this vote as approval, lets merge the specs - if there are no critical -1s on them, we can merge them today, no 2x+2 needed on the specs (refer to this vote when approving)18:12
morgan_503be sure to clearly indicate that this will be exprimental like all other code.18:13
bknudsonwe still need to focus on reviews for fernet tokens to fix the bugs18:13
ayoungmorgan_503, ++  will do my best.18:13
samueldmqmorgan_503, great18:13
dstanekgyee: i only have nsfw responses for that18:13
lbragstadbknudson: ++18:13
samueldmq#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134655/18:13
samueldmq#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197980/18:13
ayoungsamueldmq, theres one with a jenkins issue...you are getting that, right?18:13
samueldmqthe specs are those two ^18:13
morgan_503ok moving on18:13
samueldmqayoung, sure18:13
morgan_503#topic Raising an exception if no domain specified on user/group/project create18:13
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morgan_503henrynash: 5m18:13
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samueldmqyes so please let's get specs merged and review code18:13
samueldmqthanks all18:14
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henrynashso as the bug indicates, this is where we try teh default domain in cases when you don’t supply a domain in  a create entity call18:14
morgan_503henrynash: #link the bug?18:14
henrynashthis is not in the spec, nor do we really want this….it was in there due to tempest failing (a long time ago)18:15
jamielennoxbug #148233018:15
openstackbug 1482330 in Keystone "Creating a user/group/project without a domain should raise an exception" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482330 - Assigned to Henry Nash (henry-nash)18:15
lbragstad#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/148233018:15
stevemarhenrynash: this sounds like it should be a simple validation error18:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1482330 in keystone "Creating a user/group/project without a domain should raise an exception" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148233018:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1482330 in keystone "Creating a user/group/project without a domain should raise an exception" [Medium,In progress]18:15
henrynashstevemar: and so it should18:15
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bretonwon't this break things?18:15
morgan_503I agree with stevemar this seems like a validation error18:15
gyeehenrynash, did we talked about this sometime back, like defaulting it to the caller's domain?18:15
henrynashthe question is - is it safe to cut this off after it being out ther for a while?18:15
morgan_503changing the behavior is API incompatible18:16
bknudsonyou'd have to deprecate the old behavior18:16
morgan_503bknudson: ++18:16
bretonmorgan_503: ++18:16
htruta_henrynash, we should also consider that in reseller, it won't be necessary18:16
bknudsonhave a config option for it18:16
henrynashgyee: we do default to teh domain token…but if they, for insatnce, used a proejct token tehn we take this odd path18:16
htruta_we'd infer it from the parent18:16
ayoungV3 ... domain should be specified.  V2, default only.  We all agree that is the proper semantics, right?18:16
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morgan_503bknudson: i'd like to avoid that kind of option18:16
henrynashmorgan503: we don’t specifiy this behaviour in the spec18:16
morgan_503bknudson: but that is a fine work around for *today*18:17
bknudsonanother option is something on the request (a header or something) like microversioning18:17
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stevemarwe shouldn't be defaulting to the default domain18:17
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gyeeayoung, yes18:17
morgan_503i'm ok with an option to turn off the behavior today18:17
morgan_503and we shouldn't default18:17
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morgan_503ayoung's assessment is correct18:17
morgan_503so lets just say make it an option, deprecate old behavior - lets not get into microversions for now18:17
henrynashmorgan_503L so turn it off (by default), but allow a config switch to truen it back on18:18
ayoungwhen we validate a token,  we should validate V3 only, so as to make the domain information explicit, too18:18
henrynashmorgan_503: so turn it off (by default), but allow a config switch to truen it back on18:18
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morgan_503bknudson: ^ i think this can't be done that way because this isn't security driven18:18
ayoungthinking in terms of enforcing policy....18:18
gyeeI am curious if tempest or something well break if we turn it off18:18
henrynashayoung: understand, I’ll check this18:18
morgan_503we have to default it to crrent behavior and in 2 cycles we can look at turning off by default18:18
henrynashgyee: no, it all passes now18:18
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gyeehenrynash, oh good18:19
henrynashmorgan_503: even thow we don’t specify it in the spec?18:19
morgan_503i think it needs to maintain current behavior..but bknudson any input before moving on?18:19
ayoungmicroresponse code 400.30118:19
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ayoung"Bad request, but we used to accept it."18:20
morgan_503henrynash: sadly even if the spec doesn't say it... behavior is the contract [unless massive security hole]18:20
bknudsonmorgan_503: I agree the default for this release should be to be the same as old behavior18:20
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morgan_503ayoung: 400.20118:20
ayoung"Bad request but we caaaept it anyway?"18:20
bknudsonand log a message when it's used18:20
henrynashmorgan_503: ok, got it….and that’s why I riased it here. Ok, I got what i neded18:20
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morgan_503moving on.. next topic18:20
bknudsonthen change default to the new behavior next release18:20
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bknudsonmaybe change devstack to the new behavior18:21
morgan_503#topic  HTTP caching support18:21
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morgan_503dstanek: 5m18:21
dstanekthis is 2 parts... and ties back a little to dynamic policy18:21
ayoungDid we ever find out what caching support we get from the requests library?18:21
dstaneki put together an experimental client change18:21
dstanek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211396/18:21
dstanekthis will allow you to enable HTTP caching when creating a session18:21
dstanekmy next step is to get the new deps in g-r if there are no objections to my change18:21
dstanekjamielennox also wanted to see if we could make those optional deps18:22
morgan_503dstanek: make sure to replicate this in keystoneauth if no complaints18:22
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* morgan_503 has no real complaints with this18:22
jamielennoxso my only thing was i always considered this something that like OSC would do, but i like the idea18:22
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jamielennoxmainly because CacheControl lets you cache to a file so to cache things like discovery between cli invocations18:23
morgan_503jamielennox: i think this is putting the features into session so osc can do it18:23
morgan_503unless we want it a layer above session18:23
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morgan_503(if even possible)18:23
dstanekjamielennox: in theory we could add it there, but we still need support in ksc so that ksm can take advantage of it18:23
jamielennoxso there's a few options there i'd like to see if we can somehow expose18:23
morgan_503sounds to me like dstanek and jamielennox have some conversations pending on this, but generally no opposition18:24
jamielennoxdstanek: yep, i'm good with the idea in theory i just want to see if we can make it a bit more generic thatn on/off18:24
gyeedstanek, is cache shared globally?18:24
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gyeeor is it per sesssion18:24
dstanekgyee: just with the user running the code18:24
ayoungwe should be able to specify a secure directory to store the cache, no?18:24
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dstanekso that is the client side18:24
dstanekyes....i have a script that i used18:24
dstanek#link http://paste.openstack.org/raw/412596/18:24
dstanekto test my experimental patch18:25
dstaneki also want to make a spec for M to add in real caching support18:25
dstaneka real small sliver of the work needs to be done to support dynamic policy, but there is lots more to do18:25
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dstaneki wanted to get some feedback on the approach18:25
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dstanek#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211693/18:25
gyeeayoung read my mind, just don't want to into shared cookie situation18:25
morgan_503generally i want to issue cache-control everywhere and see clients be smart18:25
morgan_503and cache where they are allowed to18:25
ayoungsess = session.Session(auth=auth, http_cache=caches.FileCache('.os_cache'))   ... could we make that a secure temporary by default?18:25
morgan_503this is moving down that path18:25
morgan_503so i like it18:25
dstanekayoung: gyee: look at the sample in paste - you control that18:26
bknudsonfrom cachecontrol.cache import DictCache -- We're limiting to specific cachecontrol implementations?18:26
ayoungdstanek, if no param is passed, what do you get?18:26
jamielennoxayoung: i don't want to cache to file by default from a library18:26
dstanekbknudson: no, those are just shortcuts - you can pass in any object18:26
dstanekayoung: no caching18:26
bknudsonwe could just tell them to use cachecontrol directly18:26
ayoungjamielennox, I mean if called like this sess = session.Session(auth=auth, http_cache=caches.FileCache())18:26
dstaneklike jamielennox eluded to there are some adapter options that i'm not passing though that may be useful18:27
dstanekbknudson: they'd have to implement a crazy subclass like i do to get around us using a TCP adapter18:27
jamielennoxayoung: i'm sure we can come up with something, it's not as easy as i thought because we have the TCPAdapter with like socket timeout on it18:27
bknudsonwhy do we have the TCP adapter?18:27
dstanekbknudson: it fixes a TCP keep alive bug18:28
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ayoungwe're probably going to need to be able to share the cache between all threads in an apache instance, and all workers in an eventlet server, too18:28
bknudsonI don't have a problem telling them they have to implement a crazy subclass.18:28
dstanekayoung: that already works18:28
dstanek"them" is us in many cases18:28
ayoungdstanek, this is something we've needed for a long time.  Nice.18:29
jamielennoxdstanek: how do you tie them together? i would have thought it was per session object18:29
dstanekjamielennox: the cache?18:29
jamielennoxmemcache backend or something?18:29
dstanekthe filecache is a shared directory that uses file locking18:29
jamielennoxok, still filecache18:29
ayounglets not memcache if we can avoid it.  This should not go off system18:30
dstanekthere are only 3 upstream backends a memory cache, a file cache and a redis cache18:30
morgan_503yay no "memcache"18:30
ayoungwill it play nicely with eventlet?18:30
dstanekand i'd love to see this eventually being automatic for users so things just get cached18:30
dstanekayoung: it should yes18:30
morgan_503ayoung: most things do... by accident, but they still do18:30
morgan_503gevent is smart-ish18:31
ayoungmemcache did not18:31
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bknudsonhopefully I can cache my tokens in there18:31
morgan_503ayoung: that is because of explicit thread.local and a horrrrrrrible library18:31
gyeebknudson, yes, its very safe18:31
morgan_503you have to work hard to make it that bad18:31
jamielennoxdstanek: i definetly want people to opt-in to a cache, particularly one that is stored on a filesystem and will be reused between runs18:31
dstanekbknudson: if we are crazy enough to set the cache headers then sure!18:31
jamielennoxit makes sense for the CLI and applications but not as a library18:31
dstaneki'll poke around osc some to see how much damage i can so there18:32
morgan_503ayoung: and it used all FDs for the process, so an effective DOS but the cache was still stable/secure18:32
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stevemardstanek: pretty neat stuff dude18:32
bknudsonso everything using the session gets this?18:32
morgan_503#action dstanek to work with jamielennox and continue exploring this path. more work to be done before it's really ready to go18:32
bknudsonnot just keystone?18:32
dstaneki'm over time...closing thoughts?18:32
morgan_503bknudson: correct anything using session can leverage this18:33
dstanekbknudson: yes18:33
ayoungso...what happens if we put a cache header on, say a user record, then we delete the record.  Will the client library be smart enough to invalidate the cache?  Of will we need a "ignore cache" switch for those case?18:33
bknudsonseems like this should go to keystoneauth first18:33
stevemardstanek: let me know if you need help on the osc side :)18:33
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morgan_503ayoung: cache-control says you are allowed to keep that cache until expiry - regardless of server response18:33
morgan_503don't put permissive cache control where you don't want it18:33
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dstanekayoung: a client would not ask for that until the local copy times out18:34
dstanekno way to flush it18:34
ayoungdstanek, so the workflow I'm doing is that I need to check if something is deleted...18:34
morgan_503ok we're at time for this topic18:34
dstanekthis is eventual consistency at it's best18:34
ayoungand there is no way except to busy wait.18:34
dstanekayoung: why would you need to do that?18:35
jamielennoxayoung: this just means we need to be smarter about what we send in our cache-control headers18:35
morgan_503ayoung: don't put a cache-control header on those resources that allow it.18:35
ayoungSo:  delete router-interface...then check if it exists...sleep. check again18:35
bknudsonI think we should document how to do it yourself and also support that.18:35
morgan_503you also can ignore cache-control as a client18:35
jamielennoxi think most things won't be cacheable18:35
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ayoungusually, caching is what I want, but in those cases, its a user override...like hitting ctlr r in the browser18:35
morgan_503you don't *have* to use it.18:35
morgan_503clients can ignore caching at any point18:35
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dstanekayoung: delete your local cache18:35
ayoungmorgan_503, that is my question  "how?"18:36
morgan_503either delete the local cache or don't use a caching session18:36
morgan_503or disable caching in the session for those requests18:36
dstanekayoung: don't configure it on your sesson or delete local cache18:36
ayoungdo I need to delete the whole cache just to force a requery on a single resource?18:36
dstanekayoung: you'll have a hard time finding a single resource18:36
dstanekbetter to create an uncached session18:37
morgan_503this still needs work18:37
bknudsondid you look at other libraries for caching with requests?18:37
morgan_503lets take this convo and impl details offline18:37
morgan_503next topic.18:37
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dstanekbknudson: a few..that was a recommendation from sigmavirus2418:37
morgan_503#action dstanek to work with ayoung to ensure caching use-cases and cache avoidance for specific requests can occur18:38
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morgan_503again, lets take the rest of this offline18:38
morgan_503we have a few more big ticket topics to hit18:38
morgan_503#topic X.509 Tokenless Authz needs a verdict18:38
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morgan_503gyee: 12m max18:38
gyeeso the patch's been independently tested by folks from Yahoo and Mirantis18:39
gyeeare there anything we can do at this point?18:39
bknudsonwhat verdict is needed? isn't it just reviews?18:39
morgan_503i'm fairly happy with the changes in general18:39
ayounggyee, its experiemental and opt in, right?18:39
gyeeayoung, yes18:39
bretonI have questions18:39
morgan_503looks like it needs reviews.. and it needs ot be clearly marked expirimental18:39
ayounglets do it18:39
bretonrelated and unrelated to client side18:39
gyeebreton, client side change will come, after this patch is landed on the server side18:40
breton1. Is getting a catalog for the user?18:40
gyee#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156870/18:40
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breton*is getting a catalog for the user planned?18:40
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morgan_503breton: if you're acting on keystone you don't need a catalog18:40
bknudson/v3/auth/catalog ?18:40
jamielennoxgyee: every figure out service tokens?18:40
morgan_503breton: if you get a token, you have a catalog18:40
morgan_503also /v3/auth/catalog ?18:40
gyeejamielennox, we'll need to support mapping on the client side18:41
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jamielennoxgyee: mapping?18:41
jamielennoxclient side?18:41
gyeemap a cert to auth context18:41
morgan_503#action Cores: Please review code for tokenless auth (service users)18:42
stevemarjamielennox: the x509 tokenless auth work leverages the mapping engine from the federation code18:42
jamielennoxgyee, stevemar: what does that have to do with client side/18:42
bretonI saw that Session already supports `cert` option18:42
stevemargyee: what do you mean support mapping on the client side? the x509 specific mapping? or the ability to create a mapping from the client side?18:42
stevemarjamielennox: i dunno, that's what i'm wondering ;)18:43
jamielennoxbreton: yes it does but you'll need to handle the catalog so you're better off doing it as a auth plugin18:43
bretonbut they don't work with auth=None (keystoneclient/session.py, line 577, in _auth_required)18:43
gyeejamielennox, we'll need to be able to fetch a mapping from server to map the cert into auth context18:43
morgan_503gyee: those words do no make sense18:43
gyeeinstead of token to auth context18:43
bretonjamielennox: so, a kind of no-op plugin then?18:43
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jamielennoxbreton: you'll need to pass through the url for keystone, but mostly it'll be no-op18:43
stevemargyee: i'm still confused18:44
bknudsonservice users are used for more than just auth_token.18:44
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bretongyee: I don't quite understand too18:44
morgan_503gyee: if the service user needs a token, get a token via the cert18:44
jamielennoxbreton: there is also like get_connection_parameters from which you can set the cert from the plugin which is better18:44
stevemarbknudson: for bootstrapping!18:44
gyeemorgan_503, sure, we can do that18:44
bretongyee: I almost make it work with minimal changes18:44
morgan_503if the service user only talks to keystone don't need a token18:44
bknudsonservice users are used by neutron to send notifications to nova.18:44
morgan_503this is opening doors for more options and moving away from tokens elsewhere as needed.18:44
bretonto get a token via cert we need an auth plugin on ks side, no?18:44
gyeemorgan_503, cert for token is supported without code changes18:44
morgan_503so for now, don't try and grab mappings and such18:45
morgan_503that is way way way way too complex18:45
jamielennoxmorgan_503: the X-Service-Token problem is for swift and others that expect you to pass the service that is calling this as well18:45
morgan_503just get a token18:45
jamielennoxmorgan_503: in which case there is no token to pass on18:45
gyeemorgan_503, sounds good18:45
ayoungmoving away from tokens everywhere: http://adam.younglogic.com/2015/08/tokenless-keystone/18:45
morgan_503jamielennox: so get a token for now :)18:45
morgan_503this is iterative18:45
jamielennoxmorgan_503: making x509 not useful for at least a couple of services18:45
morgan_503it is still useful18:46
jamielennoxand a growing list18:46
jamielennoxbut sure18:46
bknudsonwe're saying it's experimental now so if it doesn't work then we can stop supporting it18:46
morgan_503it is also expirimental so changes can occur in mitaka18:46
gyeebknudson, its both experimental and optional18:46
morgan_503in short: review code18:46
ayoungX Service token can be handled via a separate middleware and an X59 as well.18:46
ayoungdoesn't invalidate this patch18:47
morgan_503don't try and make the client handle the mapping18:47
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dstanekmorgan_503: ++18:47
morgan_503provide a way for x509 to grab the token for x-service-token when needed *for now*18:47
morgan_503gyee: ^ work for you?18:47
gyeemorgan_503, yes18:47
morgan_503(as in when sending x-service-token)18:47
morgan_503#topic Bug 1482701 - Federation: user's name in rules not respected18:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1482701 in keystone "Federation: user's name in rules not respected" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148270118:48
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gyeelike I said, it works now, just matter of documenting it18:48
openstackbug 1482701 in Keystone "Federation: user's name in rules not respected" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482701 - Assigned to Marek Denis (marek-denis)18:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1482701 in keystone "Federation: user's name in rules not respected" [Medium,In progress]18:48
morgan_503if we have time there is one more topic after this18:48
lbragstadso marekd opened up this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1482701) which is something that is reproducible with UUID tokens and Fernet. The issue is that when the federated user name and id are different, the federated name isn't respected.18:48
lbragstadhe has a review up for fixing the UUID case - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211093/18:48
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lbragstadbut for Fernet and federated workflows, we have two options18:48
ayoungdefine "respected" here?18:49
lbragstadworkaround the user id and username issue by making them the same, or persist the user name in the token format with the user id18:49
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lbragstaddoes anyone have an issue seeing the user name go into the token?18:49
lbragstadmarekd: feel free to elaborate on it a bit more18:49
bknudsonthe bug doesn't say what the response was supposed to be.18:50
morgan_503lbragstad: i really want less "name" data in tokens.18:50
morgan_503lbragstad: to be frank18:50
ayoungis this because we don't have the data to feed through the mapping rules a second time?18:50
morgan_503lbragstad: i would rather move towards ids only if at all possible18:50
lbragstadI believe what marekd means by "respected" is that the mapping doesn't honor the user name18:50
ayoungI think the mapping sets it, and then it is dropped, if I read it correctly18:51
jamielennoxmorgan_503: horizon uses user_name for display18:51
morgan_503but federation is always a magic case18:51
lbragstador doesn't match a mapping *if* it is different from the user id18:51
morgan_503jamielennox: and i disagree with that being "in the token" ;) but thats aside18:51
jamielennoxwhich is weird because i've definetly correctly mapped through a name such that it appears correctly in horizon18:51
lbragstadI don't really care to bloat the token18:51
morgan_503lbragstad: username should be in the token already iirc18:52
morgan_503just maybe not in fernet's ... thing?18:52
morgan_503uhmm payload18:52
jamielennoxso what's the issue with this just being a bug and fixing it?18:52
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morgan_503this is another "federation is special" case18:52
morgan_503looks like a bug to me18:52
ayoungwhen you repopulate the token, you don't have the original assertion18:52
lbragstadusername isn't in there18:52
morgan_503so for the fernet payload, put it in for federated tokens18:53
jamielennoxoh - right this is a fernet thing18:53
morgan_503we know federated tokens are special anyway18:53
morgan_503but don't put it in for all fernet tokens18:53
lbragstadmorgan_503: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/token/providers/common.py#L56918:53
morgan_503just the federated case18:53
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morgan_503it's fine to use a friendly name in the federated fernet18:53
morgan_503just don't bloat the token in all cases.18:54
jamielennoxit may be for fernet and federation we need to store like a visited_users table or something, we already have groups we need in addition18:54
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morgan_503just like groups are used specially for federated18:54
jamielennoxnot this cycle18:54
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lbragstadok, so this would only concern federated payload (unscoped, domain-scoped, and project-scoped)18:54
morgan_503since fernet token payloads can be changed as needed18:54
morgan_503no contract18:54
morgan_503we can change this next cycle as needed18:54
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morgan_503or even if we have a better idea this cycle18:54
morgan_503yay opaque payloads we control :)18:55
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morgan_503it's a bug, fix it :)18:55
lbragstadok, so we are fine with including the user name in the federated payloads as long as it doesn't effect other payloads18:55
* morgan_503 says yes.18:55
lbragstadok, i'll leave a comment18:55
lbragstadon the bug report18:55
lbragstadthat's all I neede d18:55
ayounglbragstad, short answer is that if the user data is important to record, we should record it.18:56
morgan_503#topic lhcheng's bug for end_point filtering18:56
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morgan_503lhcheng: o/18:56
ayoungshadow table style, like the ID mapping.  probably should create an epehmeral user record18:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1482772 in python-openstackclient "Region filtering for endpoints does not work" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lin Hua Cheng (lin-hua-cheng)18:56
morgan_503you have ~3m18:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1482772 in python-openstackclient "Region filtering for endpoints does not work" [Undecided,New]18:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1482772 in python-openstackclient "Region filtering for endpoints does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148277218:56
lhchengregion is an available filter for List Endpoint in ksc and osc18:56
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lhchenghowever our documentation doesn't seemt to have it18:56
lhchengdolphm suggest to just add the support for the region filter, since it could be useful anyway18:57
morgan_503this looks like a no-spec required (minor API doc change needed) and a bug18:57
lhchengare folks okay with no-spec?18:57
gyeewe have region in endpoint group filter :)18:57
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morgan_503i'm fine with it being no-spec18:57
ayoungadd to documentation.  Behavior is good, no spec.18:57
gyeesame here18:57
bknudsonyou'll need to change the api spec18:57
morgan_503anyone have concerns before we end the meeting?18:57
lhchengbknudson: yup, I'll start with updating the api spec18:57
morgan_503bknudson: yeah the api doc needs an update but this looks like an oversight not really a "need a formal spec/bp" thing18:57
morgan_503lhcheng: make sure the api-doc change is partial-bug tagged18:58
bknudsonthe spec itself wouldn't be interesting anyways18:58
samueldmqyes, I agree with just api change spec, not formal spec with proposed solution, problem description etc18:58
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morgan_503ok annnnnd we're done18:58
lhchengmorgan_503: got it18:58
morgan_503out of time18:58
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Aug 11 18:58:47 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:58
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-08-11-18.00.html18:58
lhchengthanks morgan_50318:58
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-08-11-18.00.txt18:58
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-08-11-18.00.log.html18:58
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morgan_503and we hit every topic this week18:59
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morgan_503stevemar: mind cleaning up our wiki page for next meeting? i need to run to lunch18:59
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gyeedo it19:01
stevemarmorgan_503: sure19:01
fungijeblair: mordred: clarkb: pleia2: SergeyLukjanov: jhesketh: anyone around for a meeting?19:01
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Zarao/ from storyboard!19:02
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fungi(the silence is broken!)19:02
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Shrewsoh hai19:02
jeblair#startmeeting infra19:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 19:02:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:02
jeblair#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:02
jeblair#link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-08-04-19.03.html19:02
jeblair#topic Actions from last meeting19:02
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jeblairso, i forgot this topic last meeting19:02
jeblairand we had a bunch19:03
jeblairpleia2 provide swift log upload traceback19:03
jeblairjhesketh update os-loganalyze to use pass-through rules19:03
jeblairjhesketh/clarkb have os-loganalyze generate indexes for directories which lack them19:03
jeblairthose 3 all seem related; anyone know if they happened?19:03
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fungii think the pass-through merged a few hours ago?19:03
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* fungi finds it19:04
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clarkbpass through is in19:04
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clarkbneeds checking can use coverage for that19:04
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clarkbjhesketh was talking to notmyname about doing listingd for index gen not sure if patvh is up yet19:04
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fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/20876719:05
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jeblairi don't see anything likely for indexes19:05
jeblairianw update yum dib element to support disabling cache cleanup19:06
jeblairanyone know the status on that one?19:06
greghaynesThere are some dib patches up19:06
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fungiClint was working on something related too, though f22 specific i think19:06
fungino, my bad. that was pabelanger19:07
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* Clint shrugs.19:07
jeblairmordred investigate problem uploading images to rax19:07
pabelangerya. I have some dib stuff up for fedora 22.  Around dnf and such. But the changes are not in diskimage-builder, but system-config right now19:07
clarkbjeblair: that seems to juts be owrking now19:08
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clarkbjeblair: not sure if mordred did anything to it19:08
pabelangerI can review ianw work too19:08
jeblairclarkb: okiedokie :)19:08
fungiyeah, we're getting fairly consistent uploads to rax now, i think. double-checking19:08
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fungiwell, maybe. we have uploads from today and a week ago19:09
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fungiso mayhaps not19:09
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greghaynesThe other issue in that vain (nodepool dib working) is rootfs resizing currently isnt working for those nodes19:10
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greghaynesI havent had time to get that fully fixed in dib :(19:11
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jeblairnibalizer add beaker jobs to modules19:11
nibalizerin review19:12
nibalizer#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208799/19:12
jeblairnibalizer make openstackci beaker voting if it's working (we think it is)19:12
nibalizeranteaya: asked tha twe start with one before exploding so thats why that looks a little weird19:12
nibalizeralso in review19:12
nibalizer#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208631/19:12
jeblairnibalizer create first in-tree hiera patchset19:13
nibalizer#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206779/19:13
nibalizeralso in review :)19:13
jeblairjeblair write message to openstack-dev with overall context for stackforge retirement/move19:13
anteayanibalizer: I do like to see a new job building first, thanks19:13
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jeblairi wrote this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/3GYKL57APR19:14
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jeblairwill send it later today19:14
jeblairjeblair start discussion thread about logistics of repo moves19:14
jeblairi'll start that after sending the first message19:14
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jeblair#topic Specs approval19:15
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jeblairwe don't have any on the agenda today19:15
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jeblairi'll just note that i merged this:19:15
jeblair#info greghaynes primary assignee on nodepool workers spec19:15
jeblair#link nodepool workers spec https://review.openstack.org/20844219:15
jeblairsince greghaynes volunteered to take on an unassigned spec19:15
jeblairyay! :)19:15
anteayathanks greghaynes19:15
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greghaynes:) note the gerrit topic19:16
greghaynesreviews welcome19:16
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jeblairi also pushed up this change to specify zuulv3 would happen in branches on nodepool and zuul:19:16
jeblair#link specify branch-based development for zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/21168719:16
jeblairwhich we discussed briefly last week19:16
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jeblairand finally, i've proposed we make maniphest a priority effort:19:17
jeblair#link add maniphest to priority efforts https://review.openstack.org/21169019:17
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jeblairwe should probably get formal votes on that19:17
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jeblair#link voting on maniphest priority effort open until 2015-08-13 1900 UTC19:18
fungicompletely agree19:18
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jeblair#info voting on maniphest priority effort open until 2015-08-13 1900 UTC19:19
jeblair#link add maniphest to priority efforts https://review.openstack.org/21169019:19
jeblairjust for good measure19:19
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jeblair#topic  Restore from backup test (jeblair)19:20
anteayaI'm out, weather is bad19:20
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jeblairanyone want to take this on?19:20
jasondotstartake on the issue, or take on talking about it here in the mtg?19:21
clarkbI hear greghaynes typing so maybe he does19:21
greghaynesI wish :( too many things ATM19:21
jeblairtake on the issue19:21
greghaynesclarkb: gotcha19:21
jasondotstarI'm new. Looking for a challenge.... sounds fair :-)19:21
jasondotstarwhat's this entail?19:21
pabelangerAny info on how it would work?19:21
clarkbI would except babies and I am one of the two people that I think has attempted it in the past19:21
jeblairwe need someone to write up a plan (could be anyone), and a root member to execute it19:22
clarkband jeblair wanted new eyes on it iirc19:22
jeblairpabelanger: we talked about it a little at the last meeting19:22
jeblairpabelanger: but i think mostly what needs to happen first is to decide what it is we want to verify and how to go about it19:23
pabelangerokay. I mean, I can look around and see what is needed. If nobody else has the time19:23
jeblair#link backup documentation http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/sysadmin.html#backups19:23
greghaynesYep, I think the consensus meeting was to do a one time backup restore test to information gather on what all we would need19:24
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greghayneser, the consensus last meeting19:24
fungipabelanger: jasondotstar: i'm happy to work with either or both of you on it19:24
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pabelangerokay. Add my name to the list. I don19:24
pabelanger't mind look into it19:24
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jasondotstarsame here.19:24
fungiwe seem to be down a few root admins for today's meeting, which is probably not helping the volunteering19:24
jeblair#action pabelanger,jasondotstar look into restore-from-backup testing19:25
jasondotstarpabelanger: if you want to take point that's cool. this will help me get my feet wet19:25
jeblairfungi: yeah, less than half of us are here today?19:25
fungiseems that way19:25
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jasondotstarpabelanger: cool19:25
jeblairah, august19:25
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fungii wouldn't have picked this time of year to buy and move into a house, but at least i'm coming out the other end of that timesink now19:26
jeblairanyway, this is something that will benefit from new eyes, so cool.19:26
jeblair#topic Fedora 22 snapshots and / or DIBs feedback (pabelanger)19:26
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pabelangerso, thanks to the help of people here. We can acually provision a jenkins node using fedora 22 (which is puppet4).19:27
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jeblairour first use of puppet4? :)19:27
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pabelangerSo, my questions are more for root admins about how to get fedora22 actually running.  Questions are if we can use snapshots or continue work on dibs19:28
pabelangerI have a few reviews up for cache_devstack and could use some eyes19:28
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pabelangerthe downside with snapshots, hpcloud doesn't have fedora22 images19:28
pabelangernot sure what is required to add them19:28
jeblairi'd like to push on dibs if possible19:29
pabelangeras for DIBs, well I think people know the state of it19:29
fungiit would probably entail in-place upgrade of a f21 image to f22, if that's somethinf fedora can do (i may be showing my debian derivative bias here)19:29
nibalizerI'm dubious that we should be running Puppet4 on one random machine19:29
fungithe snapshots would, i mean19:29
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jeblairnibalizer: is there a way to run puppet3?19:29
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nibalizerjeblair: I haven't verfied, but yes there should be19:30
pabelangerso, my question about dibs is. What would be a reasonible timeframe to get dibs all working?19:30
fungibut yes, i think adding new snapshot images goes against the "when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging" adage19:30
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crinklepuppetlabs doesn't package puppet for fedora 22 yet, which implies they're not testing on fedora 22 yet, so i would be wary of trying to run it19:30
crinklemoreover fedora is packaging it completely differently than puppetlabs will be19:31
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nibalizerthe puppet4 support comes from fedora/epel repos I guess19:31
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jeblairpabelanger: frankly, i don't think we can really set that.  so much of the nodepool dib work seems to be blocked on mordred who is not around19:31
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nibalizerya so the two organizations that would package puppet4 are going about it different ways19:31
pabelangerright, the main reason for this, is some downstream teams that would require fedora22. Even puppet bits19:31
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pabelangerplus, some efforts for projects pulling in newer libs19:32
nibalizerwhich means its not really stable yet19:32
pabelangerI agree puppet 4 is new, however if puppet 3 is required. We could do what the puppet openstack team does and uninstall puppet a job launch, and setup a gem19:32
jeblairwhat do you mean by this: 19:32 < pabelanger> plus, some efforts for projects pulling in newer libs19:32
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pabelangerjeblair: my understanding. A few teams at RedHat are wanting bleeding edge packages for experimental support19:33
pabelangernot 100%, just head rumblings19:33
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pabelanger /stupid keyboard19:33
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jeblairregarding puppet3/4 -- we don't run much puppet on these nodes, and we want to run even less in the future; i'd prefer to use the same puppet from the puppetlabs repo, but if that's not possible, i'm not too worried about using puppet4 here19:34
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jeblairif we can finish the dib work, we can start on that effort in earnest19:35
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fungiyeah, it's local puppet apply, no remote/puppetmaster involvement at all19:35
nibalizerya really for the provisioning step, puppet3 vs puppet4 we won't feel much of a difference19:36
nibalizerI owuld reccomend we write the 10 lines of shell to get the puppetlabs repo in place and just use puppet319:36
nibalizerespecially since I'm the one who will be getting pinged because puppet4 did something stupid19:36
jeblairnibalizer: er, i thought it wasn't an option?19:36
* jeblair is confused19:36
crinklenibalizer: puppetlabs doesn't package for fedora 22 yet19:36
crinkleeither 3 or 419:37
nibalizercrinkle: jeblair so gem install puppet --version=3 or something19:37
nibalizeror add the f21 packages :)19:37
nibalizerthaght might be my debian showing19:37
jeblairnibalizer: pabelanger seems to be saying that this is working now; is it worth doing more work for that?19:38
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pabelangerYa, fedora 22 is working with -infra puppet modules19:38
nibalizerprobably not19:38
nibalizerso yea we can just go with puppet419:39
jeblairso maybe we try this out, and if we keep shooting ourselves in the foot, then invest in puppet3ifying it?19:39
pabelangerso much so, I want to get a puppet apply test node going to make sure we are gating on changes for puppet 419:39
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nibalizerya thats a decent idea19:40
pabelangereven if non-voting19:40
nibalizertrusty/precise though, since we don't run any services on f2219:40
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nibalizerbut f22 nodes, once available wont hurt19:41
jeblairnibalizer: we do run the slave template through the apply test, so that at least can run on f2219:41
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jeblairpabelanger: got your questions more or less answered?19:41
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pabelangerjeblair: so, Fedora 22 dibs?  Drop snapshot?19:42
jeblairi think so; it's work either way, and at least this way we're all focused on the same probs19:42
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fungiworst case, while f22 images are experimental we can get by with only having them in hpcloud19:43
fungiand continue working on getting red hat based systems working with glean19:43
fungiwhatever the blocker is there at the moment19:44
pabelangerRight, I haven't even tried fedora22 with uploading yet19:44
pabelangerso, not sure what will happen19:44
pabelangereither way, will continue hacking away on it19:44
jeblair#topic  puppet-pip vs puppet-python (rcarrillocruz)19:45
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nibalizerright so pip is installed from install_puppet.sh then unmanaged by puppet modules19:45
yolandawe found this problem downstream, were puppet and pip are not installed in that way for some cases19:45
yolandawe were relying on puppet-pip that doesn't do what it promises19:46
nibalizerin what case does install_puppet.sh not get run?19:46
yolandainfra-ansible for example19:46
yolandait's not a part of the automation itself, so right now is just a manual step that is not related to the automation19:46
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funginibalizer: downstream consumers of our puppet modules not provisioning systems the way we do19:46
clarkbwhats infra-ansible?19:47
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yolandaclarkb, is a project we have downstream, to automate a whole infra19:47
clarkbok, couldn't you have it run install_puppet.sh?19:47
jeblairwhy is this downstream?19:47
fungibasically "getting pip installed on your server" is an exercise left to the reader for puppet modules where we use the pip package provider19:47
nibalizerfungi: in my mind i completely agree with you19:47
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jeblairyolanda: isn't that one of our highest priority efforts we're supposed to be working on together upstream?19:47
nibalizerif you want to use infra modules you need a couple prereqs such as puppet and pip19:48
yolandajeblair, we are19:48
nibalizerwe could do better about listing whats needed 'before you begin'19:48
yolandait's on github at the moment, in development process19:48
jeblairyolanda: no, that's not how we work19:48
yolandajeblair why do you say that?19:48
* fungi notes that "on github" is not "working upstream"19:49
jeblairwe don't work by doing things off in the corner on github19:49
pabelangerI am in favor of using an upstream puppet module for this19:49
jeblairpabelanger: i think the premise is flawed19:49
yolandajeblair but we cannot work all the time by proposing upstream specs and waiting for approval19:49
yolandabecause we simply don't have the time19:50
yolandaso in some cases we need to cook some things downstream then try to reuse19:50
jeblairyolanda: i'm sorry you feel that way.  i could not disagree more about that, and the way you are dealing with it.19:50
jeblairlet's move on to another topic.19:50
jeblair#topic  Nodepool REST API spec (rcarrillocruz)19:50
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yolandathat has been pending review for long time19:51
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yolandaso Ricky needed some reviews to move it forward19:51
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jeblairit looks like it could use some more elaboration and agreement19:52
jeblairparticularly the keystone thing seems vague19:52
jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/14101619:52
jeblairso, someone who actually knows something about keystone, and its suitability here should probably weigh in on that19:53
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pabelangerI can. I wrote something using both pecan and keystone last year.  And can see how it would work19:53
jeblairpabelanger: cool, thanks19:54
fungii do worry a little about tying nodepool to keystone, but i'll save my comments for the spec19:54
pabelangerfungi: ya, it would be optional and easy to disable.19:55
pabelangeror easy to enable ;)19:55
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jeblairthat would seem to imply that in order to use this, you need to have a cloud account on one or more or all providers19:55
jeblairand i don't really understand how that fits with the nodepool usage model19:55
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jeblairor why we would assume that would be the case19:55
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jeblairor, it looks like mordred suggested we could run a keystone specifically for this19:56
jeblairwhich sounds heavyweight, but what do i know19:56
nibalizerthat sounds ... like a lot of work19:56
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yolandai'd prefer to keep it simple really19:56
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fungii must have mis-skimmed it because i thought it was more like treating nodepoold as a rest server in an existing cloud environment (similar to nova, glance, et cetera)19:56
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pabelangerThat's what I assumed19:57
fungiwhere the only benefit was not having to use some not-from-openstack authentication mechanism19:57
jeblairthere is also very little indication of why it's needed.  nodepool is designed to have no user interface19:57
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yolandajeblair, it's one of the most important features needed for downstream consumption19:58
yolandaon our daily basis, users are requesting to hold nodes all the time to debug issues19:58
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jeblairyolanda: the spec should probably mention that19:58
fungia proof of concept using http basic auth would probably get us most of the way and then you could fairly easily add other auth mechanisms supported by apache19:58
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jeblairyolanda: right, so there's a use case that should be described, and then we can elucidate requirements from that19:59
yolandajeblair, can you note it on the review? not mine19:59
* fungi will add notes too19:59
jeblairfor instance, it sounds like a simple http access credential might suffice19:59
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jeblairyolanda: of course... it was proposed as a meeting topic though.  ;)19:59
pabelangerIIRC, pecan already supports hooks into keystoneclient. Which makes the integration into keystone that much easier20:00
yolandayes, and great to be talking about it. So the most important need is autohold of nodes but having some way to interact with nodepool features sounds like a good idea to me20:00
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jeblairtime is up; thanks everyone20:00
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dhellmannwe agreed last week we would skip a meeting this week, unless someone had some pressing business, since ttx is ooo this week20:08
mesteryFYI, next meeting is next week: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee20:08
RockygThanks dhellmann20:08
edleafedhellmann: thanks20:09
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mesterycourtesy ping PTLs: adrian_otto boris-42 bswartz david-lyle devananda dims dtroyer emilienm flaper87 gordc hyakuhei isviridov21:00
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mesterycourtesy ping PTLs: j^2 jeblair johnthetubaguy kiall loquacities mestery morganfainberg mtreinish nikhil_k notmyname rakhmerov21:00
mesterycourtesy ping PTLs: redrobot SergeyLukjanov slagle SlickNik smelikyan stevebaker thingee thinrichs ttx21:00
mesteryCross Project meeting starting: ETA 1 minute21:00
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mestery#startmeeting crossproject21:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 11 21:01:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'crossproject'21:01
mestery#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting Agenda21:01
mesteryLooks like a fair bit of carry over from last week and some Open Discussion is in order for today21:01
mestery#info Meeting Chairs needed for September 1, September 29, and October 1321:02
mesterySignups appreciated!21:02
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mestery#topic Horizontal Team Announcements21:02
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mesteryAnyone have anything today?21:03
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david-lylejust here, nothing to add21:03
mesterydavid-lyle: :)21:03
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Rockyghow about a reminder of the ops midcycle next week?21:03
mesteryRockyg: Please, #info it! :)21:04
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RockygOK, lemme get the info again...21:04
mesteryRockyg: Thank you21:04
mesteryRockyg: I believe it's next week, but would be great to get it officially into here :)21:04
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mesteryOK, while we wait for Rockyg, lets move on in the agenda21:05
Rockygok.  There's also the Product wg right after.  I'm on that page, so that one first...21:05
* mestery waits21:05
Rockygok.  There's also the Product wg right after.  I'm on that page, so that one first...WG midcycle 8/20-21 at Cisco, San Jose21:06
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Rockyglink to etherpad:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/productwg-liberty-midcycle-meetup21:06
mestery#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/productwg-liberty-midcycle-meetup21:06
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mesteryOK, now lets keep rolling21:07
mestery#topic API Guildelines Ready for Final Review21:07
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mestery#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/071791.html More Details Here21:07
Rockyg#info Operatortor Midcyle:  8/18-19 in Palo Alto, CA21:07
elmikonot much to say here, please review =)21:07
mesteryelmiko: lol :)21:08
mesteryelmiko: I'll add the links at least21:08
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186526/21:08
elmikoi think 21 of these is a rework that got passed back after the first go around21:08
elmikoer 121:08
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181912/21:08
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181784/21:08
elmikothanks mestery !21:08
mesteryelmiko: No worries.21:08
mestery#info Review of these is encouraged by all cross project people!21:08
RockygThanks elmiko and mestery21:08
mesteryAny other comments on these API reviews by anyone?21:09
elmikothey are planned to merge next tuesday, aug 18 if no comments are received by then21:09
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mestery#info These API reviews are expected to merge by August 18 if no comments are received by then21:10
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mesteryThanks elmiko!21:10
mesteryMoving along in the agenda21:10
mestery#topic Return request-id to caller21:10
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mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/15650821:10
tpatilAs per Doug's suggestion we have subclassed tuple and it’s possible to store request_ids in tuple object21:10
mesteryI believe this was discussed last week, the spec is still open21:10
mesterytpatil: Very nice!21:10
tpatilAlso, we have fixed all Brant’s review comments and uploaded new PS for review21:10
tpatilFor consistency purpose request_ids attribute of type “list” is added to all types of return values21:11
mesterytpatil: I see that, nice work21:11
tpatilAnother question21:11
tpatilIn the last meeting, there was discussion to mark oslo-incubator as private21:11
tpatilI want to understand what changes are required for marking oslo-incubator.openstack as private21:11
tpatilfor example, when syncing oslo-incubator.openstack with python-glanceclient, it should be synced as glance client._openstack and wherever  python modules from openstack package are imported it should be refactored to the new path. correct?21:11
johnthetubaguytpatil: thats what I remember folks suggesting21:12
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tpatilSo, these changes needs to be done in all python-*clients using oslo-incubator/openstack code which seems to be a big activity.21:12
tpatilIMO, these changes should be done in a separate new blueprint or should we include these changes in our specs?21:12
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johnthetubaguythe key bit was so python-*client users didn't think that stuff was a stable interface by accident21:12
mesteryjohnthetubaguy: ++21:12
johnthetubaguytpatil: its maybe worth adding in the spec, as its how this common code will get imported, so it feels part of the same effort21:13
tpatiljohnthetubaguy: OK, we will add it to the specs then21:13
tpatilThat's all I wanted to update at this point21:14
mesteryThanks tpatil!21:14
mesteryAnd that brings us to21:14
mestery#topic Open Discussion21:14
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* mestery thinks we may finish this meeting in record time today21:14
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kfox1111I've got 2.21:14
mesterykfox1111: Shoot!21:14
kfox1111one's quick. Please review:21:15
kfox1111#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18661721:15
kfox1111could use more eyes, and it seems dead in the water.21:15
kfox1111number 2.21:15
kfox1111Question for the individual ptl's out there. I'm working on the app-catalog project, trying to increase the contributions. Its been hard due to lack of features from a lot of the individual projects.21:15
kfox1111Reviews seems to be one of the main capitals in OpenStack, but the number of reviews seems to only count within a project? How does one gain capital to get faster reviews when your time is spend fixing issues across lots of different projects?21:15
mesterykfox1111: Excellent question21:15
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kfox1111don't need an answer right now. just something to think about. :/21:16
johnthetubaguykfox1111: we are totally not doing many nova-spec reviews right now, we are focused on code reviews right now21:16
mesterykfox1111: One way is by building that capital with people who cross between projects (if that makes sense)21:16
kfox1111johnthetubaguy: Yeah, I realize that. Not singling out nova in particular. there's other cases.21:17
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mesterykfox1111: But I see your point with the challenges of working across this21:17
kfox1111mestery: ah. interesting.21:17
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johnthetubaguykfox1111: its no worries, just right we are generally ignoring everyone, so its not personal as such21:18
johnthetubaguycross project stuff is hard right now21:18
kfox1111for example, unit testing. each project requires it for a patch, and each does it diferently, and worse, each has changing requirements not documented in existing code. so you copy an existing test, tweak it, and its not acceptable usually.21:18
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johnthetubaguythis meeting is the place to get traction I guess21:18
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mesteryjohnthetubaguy: ++21:19
kfox1111johnthetubaguy: Yeah. understood. just wanted to raise the topic so we could think about how to make it easier to deail with features that need to cross projects.21:19
johnthetubaguykfox1111: yeah, I think we agreed on mock vs mox in a cross project sense, was that what you mean?21:19
gordckfox1111: what are you doing that spans different projects?21:19
elmikoi've had the best success reaching out to projects individually, usually by pestering people in irc. it's very time consuming though21:20
gordci'd say getting buy in from individual projects hopefully gets you a resource there to either help or guide you.21:20
kfox1111gordc: trying to smooth off the rough edges between projects so you can write generic heat templates for example.21:20
kfox1111right now, its very difficult to make a truely cloud scale app that is generic enough to put in the app catalog.21:20
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kfox1111part of the problem is, most projects push back and say "why is it our projects issue" its the users problem.21:21
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kfox1111the problems tend to exist in the bounderies between projects when you use them together.21:21
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johnthetubaguykfox1111: so this will sound familiar, but did we ever got to the bottom of the discussion with keystone about the instance user thing, I remember discussing this late one day in IRC21:22
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johnthetubaguykfox1111: honestly, I think adhoc meeting between all the parties in IRC is the way forward with this21:22
johnthetubaguybut adhoc, I mean arranged by email21:22
kfox1111johnthetubaguy: I think the barbican/keystone folks are on board with the current spec. I think its the nova freeeze that's stalled it now.21:22
mesteryOne suggestion is to try and put these types of things on the cross-project meeting agenda21:22
mesteryAnd make sure it's early enough so it's announced21:22
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mesteryAlso, johnthetubaguy's idea is good as well21:23
kfox1111johnthetubaguy: yeah. could be. or the summit. I'm still trying to arange to get there.21:23
kfox1111mestery: Ok. sounds good.21:23
johnthetubaguykfox1111: the summit is often the best way, but its best to have the discussion started before then anyways, we are getting there21:23
Rockygkfox1111, if it's a user issue, maybe you can have a usercommittee slot in the summit, but grab project devs21:23
johnthetubaguykfox1111: to be clear, there is no freeze on specs right now, mitaka has been open for a week or two now, just we don't have anyone who is free to review the specs21:24
kfox1111Rockyg: sounds doable. Part of the issue too is definitions. In my world, cloud application developer != user. while in most openstack projects they are treated the same. And that's lead to some issues.21:24
johnthetubaguykfox1111: thats in the nova sense, and I know thats not very helpful right now :(21:24
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kfox1111johnthetubaguy: thats an ugly situation. :( I understand though.21:25
Rockygkfox1111, this could also be good for the Ops "burining Issues" session at the midcycle.  That tends to get devs' attention21:25
johnthetubaguykfox1111: we need more reviews, if you spot any hanging around, do send them my way :)21:25
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kfox1111Rockyg: hmm.. good idea. thanks.21:25
johnthetubaguyI mean reviewers21:25
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kfox1111johnthetubaguy: will do. :)21:26
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johnthetubaguykfox1111: I think the key issue was mapping the per instance cert to some user, I need to sync up to work out where that got to21:26
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kfox1111johnthetubaguy: I think that parts all done. I think the outstanding issue21:27
kfox1111is how to verify the vm is the one that should get the cert.21:27
kfox1111in the most recent iterations, that changed a lot. :/21:27
kfox1111I'd really like nova's perspective on that bit. since it was influenced by nova's reviewers a lot once they finally started reviewing.21:27
johnthetubaguykfox1111: yeah, we don't really have anything to do that in Nova right now21:28
kfox1111can we prioritize it for when reviewers free up? :)21:28
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johnthetubaguykfox1111: so in all honesty, all my reviewer are likely to be slammed until liberty-3 is tagged, at this point, at that point I hope to assign priorities to specs, this is an important ish one (medium ish)21:29
kfox1111ok. good enough. Thanks. :)21:29
johnthetubaguykfox1111: remind me I said that the week after liberty-3!21:30
* kfox1111 chuckles21:30
kfox1111will do. :)21:30
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* kfox1111 edits his calendar....21:30
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RockygSpeaking of liberty-3 and deadlines and foci,  I wanted to remind PTLs and other dev types of the China Bugfest next week.21:31
mestery#info China Bugfest is next week, reminder for PTLs for reviews21:31
mesteryThanks Rockyg21:31
mestery#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2015_8_Prc_Hackthon21:32
RockygThat etherpad also has  space for a list of bugs you want them to focus on.  Hint, hint21:32
mesteryThanks Rockyg!21:32
mesteryAnything else this week from anyone before we close up shop?21:33
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mesteryOK, thanks everyone!21:34
mesterySee you all next week!21:34
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elmikothanks mestery21:34
RockygThanks mestery and everyone else!21:34
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