| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:00 |
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| thinrichs | Time for the Congress meeting. | 00:00 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 00:00:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:00 |
| pballand | hi | 00:01 |
| masahito | hi | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | pballand, masahito: hi | 00:01 |
| RuiChen | hi | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | Main agenda items from me: | 00:01 |
| Yingxin1 | hi | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | 1. Summit details | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | 2. Tempest tests in gate | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 3. Status reports | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | RuiChen, Yingxin1: hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Ok; let us know if something else should go on the agenda. | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | #topic summit | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | The schedule for the Tokyo summit is out. | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | #link •https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/ | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | We had 1 talk accepted (that I know of): the Hands On Lab | 00:04 |
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| masahito | sounds good! | 00:05 |
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| veena | Hi | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | If you search for congress on the schedule, you can see a new policy platform called Sentinel. | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | I *just* saw this and don't know anything about it. | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | veena: hi. We're going over details about the upcoming summit. | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | Sentinel looks to be a Congress-like thing that eBay built. | 00:08 |
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| veena | thinrichs: okay | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | Reminder to book your hotel rooms. | 00:08 |
| pballand | hmm, they seem to be at the same time too :( | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: :( What are the chances? | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | We should reach out to those folks and talk before the summit, I'd think. | 00:10 |
| pballand | thinrichs: seems we may want to talk to the organizer about that… those interested in policy are going to have trouble | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | pballand: good thought. I'll look into it. | 00:10 |
| pballand | I expect there still should be time to fix the schedule | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | #action thinrichs will ask summit organizers about moving Sentinel and Congress to different time slots | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | I'll also reach out to the Sentinel team to see if I can get some info before the summit. | 00:12 |
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| thinrichs | #action thinrichs will reach out to Sentinel team | 00:12 |
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| thinrichs | Has anyone received emails about being Active contributors because of your work in Congress | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | ? | 00:14 |
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| veena | thinrichs: yes, I recieved and got the free entry pass for summit | 00:14 |
| pballand | I got an ATC badge, which I assume is related to Congress | 00:14 |
| masahito | I've received. | 00:14 |
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| thinrichs | I got a free pass for being on the HOL talk, but no ATC email. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | If anyone that's pushed code to Congress hasn't gotten a free registration, let me know. | 00:16 |
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| RuiChen | I get it, but some conflict with my other work, so I can't join tokyo summit :( | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: ayip put the HOL talk proposal together. Is VMware planning to provide machines like the last HOL? | 00:17 |
| masahito | thinrichs: I think your registered email address is different between gerrit and openstack foundation. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | masahito: I tried to fix all that, but you may be right. | 00:18 |
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| pballand | thinrichs: ayip hasn’t told me anything about it... | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | RuiChen: sorry you won't make it. :( Maybe next time! | 00:18 |
| pballand | I can ping him about it | 00:19 |
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| pballand | #action pballand Check with ayip on infrastructure for HOL | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | pballand: that'd be great. If VMware doesn't have the machines we'll need to figure out how to run the lab. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | We also need to decide on room requests for the design summit. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | In Vancouver we had 2 small rooms and 1 large room. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | They say there's less space in Tokyo and there are more teams requesting rooms. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | It's easier to get small rooms than large rooms. | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | Any opinions on what we should request? | 00:21 |
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| pballand | I’d rather have more meetings in small rooms than fewere in large rooms | 00:22 |
| masahito | It seems to be better to use small room to discuss features. | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | We could try to ask for 4 small rooms and 0 large rooms. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | (I agree the large room wasn't so useful last time.) | 00:23 |
| masahito | because we were able to discuss face to face in Vancouver at small rooms. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | I also felt the time went really fast in the small rooms, which is why I proposed 4. | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | If we asked for a large room, any thoughts on what we would discuss? | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | Something that we'd want feedback from a larger audience on. | 00:24 |
| veena | thinrichs: I had applied for travel fund, but didn't get it :( not sure if I can make it. | 00:25 |
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| masahito | It could get feedback or attention for Congress itself in large rooms? | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | veena: sorry that didn't work out. Maybe try again for Austin (the next summit)? | 00:26 |
| veena | thinrichs: Sure | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | masahito: what would the topic be that might draw people in? | 00:27 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: it might be use-cases of in production deployment if there exists. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | masahito: none in production that I know of. | 00:29 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: hmm.. sorry, I couldn't help you ;( | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | It sounds like we don't have a good use in mind for a large room. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | So we'll go with several smaller rooms. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | 4 seems good, and they can give us less if they need to. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | Is anyone going to be around Friday? | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | I'm planning to fly out at 5p or so. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | We can request space on Friday too. | 00:31 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: which airport do you plan to use? | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | Not sure yet—there are more flights into the farther one. | 00:32 |
| pballand | I’ll likely be heading out friday afternoon | 00:32 |
| pballand | but don’t have flights yet | 00:32 |
| masahito | thinrichs: ok. it's reminder. If you use Narita, you need to leave summit place at noon to get flight at 5pm. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | masahito: thanks! That's helpful. | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | I'm happy to meet up Friday morning, but I won't request a room unless someone else thinks it's a good idea. | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | And is planning on meeting up Friday morning. | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | Ok. I'll skip requesting a room on Friday. | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | We can meet up somewhere if we want to. | 00:36 |
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| pballand | +1 for avoiding Friday if possible | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | Moving on to the next topic. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | #topic Tempest tests in gate | 00:36 |
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| thinrichs | I ended up disabling all of the datasource driver tempest tests. | 00:37 |
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| thinrichs | Now it seems to be consistently green. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | And I've started running tempest tests before merging code. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | (To do that, enter "check experimental" into a comment.) | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | There's a patch under review for moving those tests to the gate | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | so that every time code gets merged those tests need to pass | 00:38 |
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| pballand | yay! | 00:38 |
| masahito | great! | 00:38 |
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| RuiChen | cool | 00:39 |
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| masahito | Should I +1 for the patch moving tempest tests to the gate? | 00:39 |
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| thinrichs | The infra team needs to +2 the patch. I'll ping them tomorrow if it hasn't happened. | 00:40 |
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| masahito | got it. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | The test coverage is pretty poor at this point, but at least we'll know we're not breaking basic devstack integration. | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | Let's move on to status updates, with our remaining 20 minutes | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | #topic status | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: want to start? | 00:41 |
| pballand | sure | 00:42 |
| pballand | unfortunately not as much to report as I wanted | 00:42 |
| pballand | I have a distributed DSE base class that I am working on | 00:42 |
| pballand | to test out ideas in the spec | 00:43 |
| pballand | I expect to be pushing a revised version of the spec in the next day or two | 00:43 |
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| pballand | the code will be a bit further out as I get some of the kinks worked out | 00:43 |
| pballand | that’s it for me | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: thanks | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | pballand: any idea when you'll have a first cut at the base class pushed to review? | 00:44 |
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| thinrichs | There's still enough for other people to do without seeing it, | 00:44 |
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| thinrichs | but at some point soon it'll be helpful to see the basic methods provided by the base class | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | Even if they're not fully baked. | 00:45 |
| pballand | my hope is to have some eyes on it before next week’s meeting | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: nice! | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | We're looking forward to it. | 00:47 |
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| thinrichs | RuiChen: want to go next? | 00:47 |
| RuiChen | ok | 00:47 |
| RuiChen | I'm still working on bug 1473924 | 00:48 |
| openstack | bug 1473924 in congress "datasource-row-list API raise 400 exception when thread switching occur in update_from_datasource()" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473924 - Assigned to Rui Chen (kiwik-chenrui) | 00:48 |
| RuiChen | start to do refactor for other datasource drivers | 00:48 |
| RuiChen | I will push the patch to gerrit in next one or two days | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | RuiChen: great! do you need anything from us? | 00:49 |
| RuiChen | no, thank you | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | masahito: want to go next? | 00:49 |
| masahito | ok | 00:49 |
| masahito | I'm working on dist-api-* of schema, table, row model now | 00:50 |
| masahito | I pushed a first commit for schema model. | 00:50 |
| masahito | I'll push rest 2 models in 2 or 3 days. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | masahito: I haven't had a chance to look at that change yet. Hopefully tomorrow morning. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | Running short on time… | 00:52 |
| masahito | thinrichs: ok | 00:52 |
| masahito | it's my updates. | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | veena: want to do a status update? | 00:52 |
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| veena | thinrichs: I see that there are syntax errors | 00:53 |
| veena | thinrichs: which do not comply with py3 | 00:53 |
| veena | thinrichs: but most are in third party. Should I take up that work and fix it? | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | veena: leave thirdparty alone I'd say. Get everything else working. | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | We need to decide what to do with the thirdparty stuff—we might move it out of our repo. | 00:54 |
| veena | thinrichs: okay | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | Yingxin1: status update? | 00:55 |
| Yingxin1 | yes | 00:55 |
| Yingxin1 | I'm working on schema conflict check on bug 1484015 | 00:55 |
| openstack | bug 1484015 in congress "policy rule head can have conflict definations" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1484015 - Assigned to Yingxin (cyx1231st) | 00:55 |
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| Yingxin1 | the schema can raises exception when attempt to delete non-exist rules | 00:56 |
| Yingxin1 | And it can be roll-backed | 00:56 |
| Yingxin1 | I think it's ready for review | 00:56 |
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| Yingxin1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213283/ | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Sounds good. I'll try to take another look tomorrow. | 00:57 |
| Yingxin1 | Thank you | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Does anyone have anything else in the last 3 minutes? | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Okay then. We all get 2 minutes of our day back. :) | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | See you next week! | 00:59 |
| masahito | see you! | 00:59 |
| veena | Bye. :) | 01:00 |
| RuiChen | bye, everybody :) | 01:00 |
| Yingxin1 | bye | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 01:00:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-08-27-00.00.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-08-27-00.00.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-08-27-00.00.log.html | 01:01 |
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| gordc | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 15:01:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:01 |
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| jasonamyers | o/ | 15:01 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:02 |
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| pradk | o/ | 15:02 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:02 |
| fguillot | o/ | 15:02 |
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| r-mibu | o/ | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | o/ belatedly | 15:02 |
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| gordc | let's start here's the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer#Agenda | 15:03 |
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| gordc | #topic recurring: roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/RoadMap | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "recurring: roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ceilometer/RoadMap (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:03 | |
| gordc | so last week (a bit less) before liberty-3 freeze | 15:03 |
| gordc | we're doing pretty well in regards to remaining bps | 15:04 |
| gordc | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/liberty | 15:04 |
| gordc | since the gate is dying, i'd asked if we can put some priority on the specs (and big bugs) | 15:04 |
| gordc | i think the remaining items are llu's SNMP work (which he just uploaded) | 15:05 |
| gordc | the last patch of my mandatory limit work | 15:05 |
| gordc | and dikonoor's event-rbac work | 15:05 |
| gordc | are there any minor minor items we want to get into liberty? | 15:05 |
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| gordc | right now i'm probably going to request a FFE for SNMP work. | 15:05 |
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| cdent | it would be handy if we had some kind of shared thing that said "these reviews are the ones that matter most right now" | 15:06 |
| * gordc goes to grab ilnks | 15:07 | |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199180/ | 15:07 |
| gordc | mandatory limit^ | 15:07 |
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| gordc | declarative snmp: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217667/ | 15:07 |
| gordc | + more to come. | 15:07 |
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| gordc | rbac: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ceilometer+branch:master+topic:bp/events-rbac,n,z | 15:08 |
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| gordc | and that's pretty much it | 15:08 |
| gordc | if there's something else to track. please holler now. | 15:08 |
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| pradk | gordc, i'm working on getting the doc update for declarative meters out today.. will share link on os-ceilometer later today | 15:08 |
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| gordc | pradk: cool cool. i think we can probably close your spec when the code patches merge though. | 15:09 |
| pradk | that would be to os-manuals repo though | 15:09 |
| pradk | cool | 15:09 |
| llu-laptop | pradk: can you point me to the doc places? I believe my snmp work needs similar work | 15:09 |
| ildikov | pradk: cool, tnx for docco, please add me to the review too | 15:09 |
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| pradk | llu-laptop, will do, watch out for link on os-ceilometer. getting the sphix tests to pass now | 15:10 |
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| pradk | ildikov, will do, thx | 15:10 |
| ildikov | pradk: cool, tnx | 15:10 |
| llu-laptop | pradk: thx | 15:11 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: dikonoor: since you have the remaining bps, please keep us updated on work, if you run into any issues. | 15:13 |
| gordc | carrying on. | 15:13 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: ceilometerclient release? | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "recurring: ceilometerclient release? (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:13 | |
| gordc | i don't think i've tracked anything in ceilometerclient recently. | 15:13 |
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| gordc | anyone else | 15:13 |
| gordc | let's say no | 15:14 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: Gnocchi status | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "recurring: Gnocchi status (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:14 | |
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| cdent | influxdb functional gate job is around, experimentally | 15:14 |
| cdent | just trying it for the first time now | 15:14 |
| cdent | no results yet | 15:14 |
| gordc | cdent: cool. good start | 15:14 |
| cdent | not much else huge going | 15:15 |
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| gordc | we can loop back to discussion of influxdb driver in openstack re: new spec for non-gnocchi influx | 15:15 |
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| gordc | let's move on. | 15:15 |
| gordc | #topic Aodh release | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Aodh release (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:15 | |
| gordc | jd__: sileht | 15:16 |
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| gordc | since we've been discussing it. it looks like we're very close to release 1.0.0 | 15:16 |
| * sileht waits for gate to merge it latest patch about integration tests | 15:16 | |
| gordc | we have the integration test merged to test basic ceiloemter+aodh+heat path | 15:16 |
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| gordc | does anyone have concerns for releasing aodh 1.0.0? | 15:17 |
| cdent | neg | 15:17 |
| gordc | cool. sileht, jd__, i'm comfortable with where we are. | 15:18 |
| llu-laptop | gordc: so aodh won't follow most openstack projects' release schedule, but much more like ceilometerclient in terms of release? | 15:18 |
| gordc | sileht: i guess we can wait for your integration patch to merge and we can cut the first release. | 15:18 |
| jd__ | o/ | 15:18 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: yep. aodh will have it's own release cycle | 15:18 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: similar to gnocchi | 15:18 |
| jd__ | I wanted to release 1.0.0 but I lack the permission in gerrit | 15:18 |
| jd__ | I asked -infra to fix that but didn't hear back yet | 15:19 |
| gordc | jd__: there's a new release process | 15:19 |
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| gordc | aodh probably falls under that as well. | 15:19 |
| jd__ | gordc: which is? | 15:19 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/releases | 15:19 |
| gordc | i don't know first releases work though so we might need to check with dhellmann | 15:20 |
| jd__ | gordc: I'll take a look but I'm not sure we'll follow that entirely | 15:20 |
| jd__ | I was planning to use the same process as Gnocchi | 15:20 |
| gordc | ah i see... makes sense. | 15:20 |
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| jd__ | that new process sounds a lot like someone engineered things without consulting what projects like us were doing | 15:21 |
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| gordc | i don't have any privileges either but let me know if you need me for anything | 15:21 |
| jd__ | e.g. splitting | 15:21 |
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| gordc | i think it's more tailored to libraries but i assumed it might cover services as well. | 15:21 |
| jd__ | gordc: yeah maybe – I'll see if we can fit | 15:22 |
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| gordc | seems it doesn't when i look at list of things it's covering | 15:22 |
| jd__ | if it can be less work for us to release, why not :D | 15:22 |
| gordc | it's pretty simple process... edit yaml and let release mgmt team approve. | 15:23 |
| jd__ | hmmm ok | 15:23 |
| jd__ | why is there a release mgmt team and why and how they approve I wonder | 15:23 |
| jd__ | gordc: is it for stable branch only or all branches? | 15:24 |
| cdent | jd__: I think the deal here is this is the process if you want the release:managed tag | 15:25 |
| gordc | it's based on branches | 15:25 |
| cdent | (or whatever the actual tag is) | 15:25 |
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| jd__ | ah I see Ironic is in it for example so it might work | 15:25 |
| jd__ | cdent: what's the real upside on this process? :) | 15:25 |
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| * cdent has no clue | 15:25 | |
| jd__ | ok | 15:26 |
| jd__ | I'll gonna try and we'll see | 15:26 |
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| jd__ | because it looks fun and lots of suprises | 15:26 |
| llu-laptop | seems ironic is the only service project | 15:26 |
| gordc | you share blame when if things in the fan.lol | 15:26 |
| jd__ | gordc: :)))) | 15:26 |
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| gordc | if we want it to be completely managed by us, then we probably don't want it... but since Aodh is slightly tied to Heat we might want a more centralised release process | 15:27 |
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| ildikov | gordc: yeap, centralization makes sense from that perspective | 15:28 |
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| gordc | the basic process is you put a release request patch in, and if affected PTL approves, a release is made | 15:28 |
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| jd__ | sounds like a corporate madness | 15:29 |
| jd__ | centralization supervised by people who have little clue what the project is doing, hm | 15:29 |
| jd__ | but I'm ok to give it a try nevertheless | 15:29 |
| * gordc looks at all our employers... no comment | 15:29 | |
| * jasonamyers has no ideas about this employers comment :P | 15:30 | |
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| gordc | jd__: cool cool. yeah we'll try it and i'm sure it's not like we're tied to process. | 15:30 |
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| jd__ | yeah I'm not that worried | 15:31 |
| gordc | jasonamyers: good answer, promotion! but first a few evaluations. | 15:31 |
| idegtiarov_ | o/ | 15:31 |
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| jd__ | gordc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217766/ | 15:32 |
| jd__ | now let's wait'n see | 15:32 |
| gordc | cool cool... anything else on Aodh release? we all content that we're not missing something after the last integration test merges? (and ildikov makes docco of changes) | 15:32 |
| jd__ | should be good, anyway we'd release 1.0.1 if we miss anything | 15:33 |
| jd__ | release early, release often | 15:33 |
| gordc | jd__: true true... just ignore the blacklisted 1.0.0 :) | 15:33 |
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| ildikov | jd__: +1 | 15:33 |
| gordc | #topic open discussion | 15:34 |
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| fguillot | gordc: jd__ do you want to talk about the blueprint about timeseries I sent the other day? | 15:34 |
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| jd__ | sure | 15:34 |
| gordc | fguillot: sure | 15:34 |
| gordc | #topic influxdb timeseries spec | 15:34 |
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| jd__ | who shoots first? :) | 15:35 |
| ildikov | fguillot: do you have a link handy? | 15:35 |
| fguillot | so the spec is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216838/ | 15:35 |
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| ildikov | fguillot: tnx | 15:35 |
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| fguillot | jd__: no blood please :) | 15:36 |
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| jd__ | hehe | 15:37 |
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| fguillot | is there any chance to include that in ceilometer or the only way for us is to contribute and improve gnocchi? | 15:37 |
| jd__ | so where I stand is that I'm ok having a dispatcher driver that feeds InfluxDB | 15:37 |
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| jd__ | if that's enough for you, well no problem | 15:38 |
| mbelanger | jd: in ceillometer or in gnocchi? | 15:38 |
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| jd__ | in Ceilometer | 15:38 |
| jd__ | dispatcher driver for ceilometer-collector | 15:38 |
| jd__ | (to be clear) | 15:38 |
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| gordc | without any api support | 15:38 |
| jd__ | yeah without any API support | 15:38 |
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| jd__ | if you want API support etc, that needs to be in Gnocchi | 15:38 |
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| fguillot | with or without the timeseries abstract layer? | 15:39 |
| jd__ | so clearly the InfluxDB support in Gnocchi is far from optimal and we'd be happy to have help! | 15:39 |
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| gordc | if there's no api support, does that really benefit the community? | 15:39 |
| mbelanger | gordc: I do not think so | 15:39 |
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| gordc | mbelanger: same. | 15:39 |
| jd__ | gordc: that depends on the use case I'd say | 15:39 |
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| jd__ | if you just want to use Ceilometer to poll data and feeds your InfluxDB, that's a valid use case | 15:39 |
| fguillot | I agree | 15:40 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: that's a good question, I'm not sure I'd be happy with a whole abstract layer right away, maybe some helper classes for future drivers | 15:40 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: let's start small and if someone comes with OpenTSDB or whatever we can then factorize some code maybe? | 15:40 |
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| gordc | jd__: sure. but does that need to be in community? there are many different custom publishers/dispatchers out there that aren't in community because they are very specific to a certain use case | 15:41 |
| jd__ | so it really depends on what you want to achieve guys :) | 15:41 |
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| fguillot | for us we will mainly use influxdb | 15:41 |
| jd__ | gordc: I think it should be maintained because we can maintain it as InfluxDB is open source | 15:41 |
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| fguillot | so the abtract layer is not mandatory for us | 15:42 |
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| mbelanger | we want to achieve bandwidth billing in an efficient way and a TSDB is the perfect choice but ceillometer as all the data we need. Are we alone trying to acomplish taht^ | 15:42 |
| jd__ | gordc: since I envision the dead of the v2 API it will have the same features as e.g. mongodb or sql | 15:42 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: can you deal with having 0 API to access influxdb? | 15:42 |
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| llu-laptop | at least the dispatch driver without api support should be documented explicitly | 15:42 |
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| jd__ | mbelanger: no, that's why we built Gnocchi | 15:43 |
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| cdent | if the goal is to create a dispatcher that uses influxdb, why does that need to be in ceilometer instead of just a stevedore plugin packaged separately? | 15:43 |
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| jd__ | cdent: for maintenance and ease of distribution that's it | 15:43 |
| gordc | right but i'm assuming there's different ways you can store data in influxdb (like all db)... and if you model it a certain way, it won't necessary mesh with another person's use case. | 15:43 |
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| jd__ | it's not technical it's more political :D | 15:43 |
| cdent | entry_points are pretty handy | 15:43 |
| fguillot | jd__: yes we can live without an api, we can have our own api on the side | 15:43 |
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| jd__ | so as cdent you can just write your own dispatcher with an entry point and be good with it already, sure | 15:44 |
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| jd__ | then do we want to merge it in Ceilometer, that's a question, I'd say, but that's me :) | 15:44 |
| jd__ | s/say/say yes/ | 15:44 |
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| mbelanger | What if we develop the driver in gnocchi but it really uses the influxdb indexes instead of indexes in a seperate db^ | 15:45 |
| * cdent thinks we should have exactly one thing on each entry point and everything else should be external :) | 15:45 | |
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| cdent | mbelanger: that would be really handy | 15:45 |
| cdent | nadya and crew are talking about working on that | 15:45 |
| gordc | mbelanger: ++ | 15:45 |
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| fguillot | cdent: but if we create a separate plugin for that, can we publish the code it under the openstack repos as a new project? | 15:45 |
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| gordc | fguillot: yep... the powervm does that currently for their virt driver | 15:46 |
| jd__ | mbelanger: we'd love that | 15:46 |
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| cdent | fguillot: I'm not opposed to having it in ceilometer, just stating alternatives | 15:47 |
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| gordc | fguillot: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/ceilometer-powervm,n,z | 15:47 |
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| mbelanger | jd: we would love to but we should have some discussion about the architecture (the way it is design) | 15:47 |
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| gordc | mbelanger: i think gnocchi is open to suggestion and contributions :) | 15:47 |
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| gordc | gnocchi team* | 15:48 |
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| mbelanger | I do not doubt that | 15:48 |
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| jd__ | mbelanger: agreed | 15:48 |
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| ildikov | just to add my two cents it looks much better approach to me to improve what we have in Gnocchi rather than add a driver to Ceilometer without API support | 15:48 |
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| jd__ | the current architecture in Gnocchi does not fit exactly what InfluxDB could do best, we may need to change that indeed | 15:48 |
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| gordc | ildikov: ++ that's my preference as well... of course, if there's reason why we can't i'm open to this dispatcher approach | 15:48 |
| jd__ | ildikov: yeah I'd prefer to have code pushed into Gnocchi than in Ceilometer too | 15:48 |
| jd__ | but I cannot force mbelanger and fguillot to do that ;) | 15:49 |
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| fguillot | jd__: what would be the best approach to contribute to gnocchi? | 15:49 |
| fguillot | and propose some changes, write a blueprint? | 15:49 |
| ildikov | well, if we does not support the Ceilometer direction that much, but we are open to accept Gnocchi improvements that hopefully helps :) | 15:49 |
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| gordc | mbelanger: fguillot: if you go the gnocchi route, you'll have more support as it offers a common api. but it's really up to your use case. | 15:50 |
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| idegtiarov_ | afaik ityaptin already start work on improvement driver for influxdb in gnocchi | 15:50 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: write a blueprint, a mail with what you want to do exactly, whatever, I don't mind | 15:50 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: just communicate and discuss with us before doing anything, it's safer :) | 15:51 |
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| gordc | jd__: you think it's good to have an email/meeting to just discuss things first? i don't know how well gerrit is for discussion | 15:51 |
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| jd__ | I do prefer emails than gerrit honestly | 15:51 |
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| jd__ | so a mail on openstack-dev with [gnocchi[ as subject and I'll be all set | 15:51 |
| mbelanger | Skype or something is acceptable for you guys or not? | 15:51 |
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| gordc | mbelanger: i think we may be in different timezones. | 15:52 |
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| gordc | and mailing list will give people more time to think | 15:52 |
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| mbelanger | OK | 15:52 |
| jd__ | yeah I do prefer async | 15:52 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: mbelanger: are you guys going to the next summit? | 15:52 |
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| fguillot | jd__: not sure, we have to talk to our boss :) | 15:53 |
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| mbelanger | Yeah, but with one commit the ticket is free ;) | 15:53 |
| gordc | mbelanger: fguillot: maybe start with gnocchi mailing list and list out your use case and thoughts on what you want to change and we can all brainstorm. as cdent mentioned, nadya and mirantis team are interested in expanding influxdb paradigm | 15:53 |
| jasonamyers | so many bugs in the bug list | 15:53 |
| jasonamyers | for free tix | 15:53 |
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| gordc | please no spelling though... just me being picky | 15:54 |
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| mbelanger | ;) | 15:54 |
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| jd__ | on a side note if you have things to share about the Swift driver since you tested it mbelanger and fguillot I'd be happy to have your feedback | 15:55 |
| fguillot | gordc: jd__ ok let's try the gnocchi route, we will take some time to understand the existing code base and after that we will open a discussion on the mailing-list | 15:55 |
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| jd__ | fguillot: cool! | 15:56 |
| gordc | fguillot: awesome! and if gnocchi can't be changed we'll go the dispatcher route | 15:56 |
| mbelanger | I'm ok with that | 15:56 |
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| fguillot | ok for me too | 15:56 |
| gordc | if you ahve questions, feel free to ping for support | 15:56 |
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| mbelanger | Is gnocchi is use in production somewhere ? | 15:56 |
| idegtiarov_ | fguillot, good choice | 15:56 |
| gordc | thanks for the cooperation folks | 15:56 |
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| gordc | mbelanger: it's being tested. i think many are waiting on influxdb support to adopt fully. | 15:57 |
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| idegtiarov_ | mbelanger, afaik not yet | 15:57 |
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| mbelanger | OK thx | 15:57 |
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| fguillot | thanks everybody | 15:58 |
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| jd__ | which is stupid since Carbonara is the best | 15:58 |
| jd__ | :-D | 15:58 |
| gordc | cool cool, anything else? no time left | 15:58 |
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| jasonamyers | MidCycle | 15:58 |
| jasonamyers | but out of time | 15:58 |
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| gordc | quick | 15:59 |
| gordc | or openstack-ceiloemter better venue? | 15:59 |
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| jasonamyers | yeah | 15:59 |
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| gordc | ok. let's chat there. if you're interested in midcycle move to openstack-ceilometer | 15:59 |
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| gordc | thanks everyone! | 15:59 |
| gordc | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 15:59:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-08-27-15.01.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-08-27-15.01.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-08-27-15.01.log.html | 15:59 |
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| vishwanathj | hi | 16:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | good morning tackers! | 16:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong here ? | 16:01 |
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| vishwanathj | I dont see him listed | 16:02 |
| sridhar_ram | okay.. lets give few mins | 16:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets start | 16:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 16:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 16:04:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: you there ? | 16:04 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: o/ | 16:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #chair sripriya | 16:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: sridhar_ram sripriya | 16:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | Agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Aug_27.2C_2015 | 16:05 |
| Rajkumar | hello all | 16:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar: hi | 16:05 |
| xhuang | hi | 16:05 |
| vishwanathj | hello | 16:05 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| shrinathsuresh | hi | 16:05 |
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| natarajk | hi | 16:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | hi everyone! | 16:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | Tacker liberty midcycle meeting minutes available here - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker/Liberty-Midcycle-Meeting-Minutes | 16:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | Slides used for the discussion is available in slideshare here - #link http://www.slideshare.net/SridharRamaswamy/openstack-tacker-liberty-midcycle | 16:07 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: thank you for leading the tacker liberty midcycle | 16:07 |
| sridhar_ram | That's was a very productive meetup. Lots of nice discussions. Thanks for those who took the effort to participate! | 16:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: thanks! | 16:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | anything else to announce ? deadline / milestones ? | 16:09 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: how about the liberty release deadline for tacker? | 16:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | I frankly we had the Tacker M summit talk to announce.. too bad it didn't got selected :( | 16:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: good question .. but we are bit lagging to get the previous checkpoints like stable/kilo pull, switch to master to knock off before we can take up Liberty release | 16:11 |
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| sridhar_ram | I'm hoping these blockers will be cleared soon.. hopefully in next few days | 16:11 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: understood, we can decide a date once the switch to master happens | 16:12 |
| s3wong | hello | 16:12 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: hi | 16:12 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: exactly | 16:12 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: you there ? | 16:12 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: reg: sessions it will only make us evolve tacker even better for M release and beyond :-) | 16:12 |
| prashantD_ | sridhar_ram : I am here | 16:12 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: I sure bet Tacker will have lot more stuff to showcase in N Summit! | 16:13 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: :-) | 16:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | Note, me and Bob H are invited for an NFV Panel .. will make sure to plug Tacker as much as possible ;-) | 16:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets move on | 16:14 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic AutoScaling Update | 16:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: take over for you are updates! | 16:14 |
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| prashantD_ | I have the spec out for review. | 16:15 |
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| prashantD_ | sridhar_ram : I saw your comments, I will address them, esp the template portion | 16:15 |
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| prashantD_ | on the meter side we are just going to stick with cpu_util for now? | 16:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: given we have scoped to keep this effort simple I'm fine w/ sticking w/ cpu_util | 16:16 |
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| sridhar_ram | unless anyone else have other options on which triggers should kick off auto-scaling actions | 16:16 |
| sridhar_ram | *opinions | 16:17 |
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| vishwanathj | good initial start | 16:17 |
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| prashantD_ | okay I will update the spec accordingly. | 16:17 |
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| prashantD_ | once it is done I will start the implementation portion. | 16:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: sounds good | 16:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | team - please review this spec - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214297/ | 16:18 |
| prashantD_ | day job is keeping me really busy so I couldn't attend midcycle, sorry | 16:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | I also invite the VNF vendors interested in Tacker to see if they can leverage this feature... | 16:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | .. we need some beta testing for this feature w/ real VNFs | 16:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: no worries | 16:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | prashantD_: anything else ? | 16:20 |
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| prashantD_ | sridhar_ram : no I am done for now...pls review the spec | 16:20 |
| sridhar_ram | will do | 16:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Tacker-SFC Integration | 16:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | trozet: you there ? | 16:21 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets continue ... | 16:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | as evident in the midcycle discussion .. we are super excited about Tim's SFC PoC efforts in Tacker | 16:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://github.com/trozet/tacker/commits/SFC | 16:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | I'd like to get the team's thoughts on how we can bring in into Tacker repo... | 16:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | particular on the code structure that should host SFC api and backend implemenation | 16:24 |
| vishwanathj | would not the regular process of a spec and then code patch set not gping to work | 16:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: that would be the ultimate goal.. however I want to get the initial strawman among our minds clear so that we can guide that effort - spec / code, etc | 16:25 |
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| sridhar_ram | some background .. | 16:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | Tacker code, for good or bad, is structured along the lines of neutron extension .. | 16:26 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: are we still thinking about providing a sfc extension? | 16:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: I'm getting there ;-) | 16:27 |
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| sridhar_ram | we are moving the current code into an extension named as "vnfm" - essentially the VNF Manager portion of Tacker | 16:27 |
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| sridhar_ram | we also envision we will have an "nfvo" extension sometime in the near future with NFV Orchestration APIs / backends | 16:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | now for SFC ... we probably need something similar.. | 16:28 |
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| vishwanathj | oh I see | 16:29 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Sridhar - Please share us any link or materials related to SFC. | 16:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: unfortunately, there is no one spec to point to... | 16:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | hopefully the spec / docs we write for Tacker+SFC could serve that purpose... | 16:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | ETSI-VNFFG is probably a good high-level model to refer.. | 16:30 |
| Rajkumar_ | Thanks Sridhar.. | 16:31 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Sure.. | 16:31 |
| sridhar_ram | IMO SFC is need in two places in ETSI MANO .. | 16:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | (1) for VNFFG which is at the NFVO / NSD handler | 16:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | (2) for intra-VNF (VDU wiring) - | 16:32 |
| sridhar_ram | I'm not too sure about (2) ... if there is a real use-case | 16:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | question to the team - should SFC exists as an NVFO API or should it be a common API (using a tacker sfc extension) ? | 16:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: I remember your team was interested in NSD aspects...any thoughts here ? | 16:34 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Sridhar - it would be in NFVO API | 16:35 |
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| Rajkumar_ | as it connects with VNF's. | 16:35 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: okay... | 16:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets think a bit more on Tacker-SFC integration .. it should map to ETSI-MANO's needs for SFC | 16:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | we will have more SFC related activities in our next iteration ! | 16:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | anything else on SFC ? questions, comments ? | 16:39 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Liberty Release Plans | 16:40 |
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| xhuang | one comment on service chainning | 16:40 |
| sridhar_ram | #undo | 16:40 |
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| sridhar_ram | xhuang: sure | 16:41 |
| xhuang | if the scope of the service chaining also includes networking | 16:41 |
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| xhuang | then.. I am not sure if the NFVO is the right place | 16:41 |
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| xhuang | do we have any documentation on the scope? | 16:42 |
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| xhuang | sorry I missed the discussion on this topic last Friday | 16:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | xhuang: agree, as pointed out earlier in this meeting, we need a document that spells out the scope of this effort | 16:43 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i can create a spec for SFC for the initial outline | 16:44 |
| sridhar_ram | any volunteers to take up this SFC work ? | 16:44 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: cool, thanks .. we need someone to help Tim as well | 16:44 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i can coordinate with him | 16:45 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: sounds good! thanks | 16:45 |
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| sridhar_ram | xhuang: lets use that spec to discuss scope and our initial efforts | 16:45 |
| xhuang | sure.. thanks | 16:45 |
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| sridhar_ram | now to the liberty release plans... | 16:46 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: we briefly discussed earlier in the meeting on this .. | 16:46 |
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| vks | hi | 16:47 |
| vks | sorry i am late | 16:47 |
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| vks | SFC I can take | 16:47 |
| sridhar_ram | we should wait, may a week, until we clear the backlog - Bob's fix, stable/kilo, switch to master .. etc | 16:47 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: what do you think ? | 16:47 |
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| sridhar_ram | vks: hi, sure .. you and Sripriya can collaborate.. | 16:48 |
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| vks | sripriya, so can we talk offline | 16:48 |
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| sripriya | vks: sure | 16:49 |
| vks | ok | 16:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: you there ? | 16:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | ... we sure will be cutting close for a liberty release... | 16:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | we should try to rush the things in flight like MANO api, TOSCA parameterization and perhaps auto-scaling, that would be decent Liberty release | 16:51 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets open the floor for general questions.. | 16:52 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: ack | 16:52 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion / Bugs / Misc | 16:52 |
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| vks | can we put some timelines | 16:52 |
| vks | ? | 16:52 |
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| vks | also can we list down all the doc, spec we have | 16:53 |
| vks | ??? | 16:53 |
| vks | if any | 16:53 |
| vks | ??? | 16:53 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: sorry, was away from my desk for a while | 16:53 |
| vks | it will help moving things faster | 16:53 |
| sridhar_ram | vks: the specs are in the tacker-specs repo | 16:53 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://github.com/stackforge/tacker-specs | 16:53 |
| vks | sridhar_ram, thnx | 16:54 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: np | 16:54 |
| vks | can we work on deciding timelines in next meeting | 16:54 |
| vks | ??? | 16:54 |
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| vks | internal to the team | 16:54 |
| sridhar_ram | If I need to propose a date - Sept 18 - 3 weeks from now ! | 16:54 |
| sridhar_ram | what you all think ? | 16:54 |
| vks | so what all in that? | 16:55 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: this is for Liberty release? | 16:55 |
| vks | i mean the scope | 16:55 |
| vks | ??? | 16:55 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: 3 weeks from now sounds good... I should have time over the next week or so to clear review backlog | 16:55 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yes...too ambitious? ;-) | 16:55 |
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| sridhar_ram | vks: the ones I mentioned earlier .. the things that are in flight | 16:56 |
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| vks | sridhar_ram, MANO api | 16:56 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I know MANO API would be in, how about monitoring and auto-scaling? | 16:56 |
| sridhar_ram | MANO api, TOSCA parameterization and perhaps auto-scaling | 16:56 |
| vks | tosca parametrization | 16:56 |
| vks | autoscaling | 16:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | MANO api & TOSCA param is zero risk | 16:57 |
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| sridhar_ram | Bob H need to comment on health-monitoring and Prashant for auto-scaling | 16:57 |
| vks | what about SFC?? | 16:58 |
| sridhar_ram | But the fact that we have a date .. might make this happen ;) | 16:58 |
| s3wong | vks: don't believe that would be remotely possible to make Liberty at this point | 16:58 |
| sridhar_ram | vks: SFC is early in the cycle..that can't be Liberty release | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | but we can have some PoC my Tokyo summit | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | that code will be in the master | 16:58 |
| sridhar_ram | not in the stable/liberty | 16:59 |
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| * sridhar_ram 1 min mark.. | 16:59 | |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: yeah, would be nice to have a release by M-Summit | 16:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | we got wrap up guys | 16:59 |
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| sridhar_ram | we are out of time .. | 16:59 |
| vks | hey let me know if i can close some bugs | 16:59 |
| s3wong | Thanks, guys! | 16:59 |
| sridhar_ram | if someone want to continue please jump to #tacker channel... | 16:59 |
| sripriya | thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | vks: sure, thanks for your help! | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 17:00:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-08-27-16.04.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-08-27-16.04.txt | 17:00 |
| s3wong | trozet is at #tacker but not here | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-08-27-16.04.log.html | 17:00 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 17:01:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | hi who's here today? | 17:01 |
| jordanP | o/ | 17:01 |
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| austin81 | \o | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_August_27th_2015_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:01 |
| timothyb89 | hello! | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 17:02 |
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| * rcrit waves | 17:02 | |
| cdent | o/ | 17:02 |
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| hichihara | hi | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | sdague, mkoderer, andreaf, dkranz, mkoderer, dtroyer, afazekas: around? | 17:02 |
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| dpaterson | o/ | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | well, lets get started | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Early summit prep (mtreinish) | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | so ttx is look for estimates on how much space we'll need for summit | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | space is a little tighter so we probably won't get as much | 17:04 |
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| dkranz | o/ | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | in YVR we had 5 fishbowls, 4 workrooms, and full day shared contributor meetup | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | I was thinking maybe ask for 4 fishbowls, 4 workrooms and the same full day shared at the end | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any thoughts on that? | 17:06 |
| dpaterson | was the workroom tight in YVR? | 17:06 |
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| dpaterson | Standing room only | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | I think there was 1 or 2 of the 4 which were kinda crowded | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | I dont really remember | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | also, the fishbowl is a bit more limited in tokyo | 17:07 |
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| mtreinish | anyway, unless people have complaints with those numbers I'll go ahead and let ttx know | 17:08 |
| jordanP | lgtm | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | ok, lets move on | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have, any open specs to bring up | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | doesn't look like there is much activity in specs right now, I expect that'll probably pick up again around summit | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Tempest | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | ok, does anyone have anything to discuss about tempest today? | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | open bps, etc? | 17:11 |
| dpaterson | test accounts. | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | dpaterson: oh, that's a good one. I actually have an update on that :) | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: but you go first | 17:11 |
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| dpaterson | I have had no luck running complete suite with test accounts. Hangs do to locking error. | 17:12 |
| dpaterson | Don't have a lot of detail at m | 17:12 |
| dpaterson | Has anyone had luck running with test accounts? | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: yes, that was my update :) | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211601/ | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | that has the new experimental/periodic test-accounts job running on it | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | I've been working on adding those so we can land the deprecation patch | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | right now there is a bug with 1 neutron test and the generator script which are blocking it from working | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | but for example: | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | #link http://logs.openstack.org/01/211601/8/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-non-isolated/e9f4993/ | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | that is successfully running with n-net and test-accounts | 17:14 |
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| dpaterson | perhaps my problem was on neutron | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | dpaterson: well, the neutron failure is a single test that fails, but otherwise it works | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: we can take this up on -qa after the meeting and I can help you go through your setup | 17:15 |
| dpaterson | mtreinish: sure | 17:15 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone else have any thing else to discuss on tempest? | 17:16 |
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| jordanP | nope, we made good progress on the unit tests side | 17:17 |
| jordanP | for the clients | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | jordanP: oh, cool. Do you know if we're ready to start the actual migration of some clients to tempest-lib soon? | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | because fwiw, I think we can always add unit tests after the migration too | 17:18 |
| jordanP | yeah but the current pace is good, so maybe we should wait until we do the move | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | jordanP: ok sure, I'm fine with not blocking the pace | 17:19 |
| mtreinish | I was only just bringing it up because the clients living in the lib has been a big thing for a while | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | so I'm anxious to get it :) | 17:20 |
| jordanP | yeah, me too. Plus we see more and more project having funct tests in there tree, so this is needed | 17:20 |
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| jordanP | *their | 17:20 |
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| mtreinish | ok, anything else? otherwise let's move on | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | ok there are a couple of topics in the agenda from jamielennox and rcrit on the agenda | 17:23 |
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| sdague | cdent has patches up to pull ceilometer into a plugin | 17:23 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: awesome | 17:23 |
| sdague | so, yeh, the tls patches | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | rcrit: still around? | 17:24 |
| rcrit | yeah | 17:24 |
| rcrit | so it is really broader than tls, that's just where I ran into it | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | sdague: fwiw, I tend to agree with you this just seems like something the service catalog should be doing | 17:24 |
| rcrit | the issue is if there is a proxy in front of a service then one needs to set a config option to tell that service what the proxy value is | 17:25 |
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| rcrit | so while I don't disagree that this is less than ideal, it's how things currently work, and it is blocking having tls proxy be part of the gate | 17:26 |
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| rcrit | which inevitably leads to breakage every few weeks | 17:26 |
| sdague | here is my concern, reiterated, we slap this in. Then everyone disappears when we need help fixing the real issue. | 17:27 |
| rcrit | so use devstack as a wedge? | 17:27 |
| sdague | devstack has often been that wedge of sane integration between components | 17:27 |
| sdague | because it's where all the pain gets felt | 17:27 |
| sdague | for better or worse | 17:27 |
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| rcrit | so it's a balance of how badly one wants tls testing done vs forcing the services to do the right thing | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | rcrit: I think all we're saying is that before we land something like this there has to be at least a plan in place and work being done to start correcting the issue | 17:29 |
| sdague | right, and what I said is that I really wanted a plan of how we get to the good place, before we do this work around. | 17:29 |
| rcrit | well, I'm just a lowly guy trying to add tls, I'm not the one to come up with this plan | 17:30 |
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| sdague | ok, so lets identify who is. | 17:30 |
| sdague | the service catalog is part of keystone, so it seems like keystone folks should own some of the responsibility here | 17:31 |
| rcrit | I think they would argue that the catalog is there for the using | 17:31 |
| rcrit | despite the fact that they themselves do the same bad practice | 17:31 |
| rcrit | but perhaps if they show how it's done, it might be consumable by others? | 17:32 |
| sdague | so, this is the reason I'm going to keep -1ing this patch. Because we keep going around in circles on excuses to not fix this. | 17:32 |
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| rcrit | I wasn't excusing it, just pointing out the obvious | 17:33 |
| rcrit | I imagine this code has been cut-and-pasted with each new service | 17:33 |
| rcrit | so if one fixes it the others will probably be able to again copy it | 17:33 |
| sdague | sure, it has, but we draw the line eventually when folks do that | 17:33 |
| sdague | it was the whole reason oslo was created, for instance | 17:34 |
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| sdague | so deciding "enough is enough" is not a new thing in OpenStack | 17:34 |
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| rcrit | so to reiterate, the plan is to have keystone fix it first? | 17:35 |
| rcrit | and then the other services follow their model? | 17:35 |
| sdague | what I'd be comfortable with | 17:35 |
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| sdague | 1) a plan on how we get to a good place where we don't need these config vars at all - agreed to by keystone folks | 17:36 |
| sdague | 2) workaround gets landed | 17:36 |
| sdague | 3) work towards real plan | 17:36 |
| sdague | I get that fixing the world is going to take a while, but I want to see a plan on how we'd do that emerge before landing the work around | 17:36 |
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| rcrit | you lost me on the workaround bit | 17:36 |
| sdague | your patch is the work around | 17:37 |
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| sdague | where we set all the manual configs for all the services | 17:37 |
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| rcrit | so we need to get morgan, jamie and others to agree to this? | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | sdague, rcrit: in the interest of time, can you guys continue the discussion in -qa or -keystone? | 17:38 |
| sdague | sure | 17:38 |
| mtreinish | great thanks | 17:38 |
| sdague | though I feel like it's mostly a reiteration of the -qa conversation the other day | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: heh, it might be. I missed that conversation | 17:39 |
| rcrit | well, you keep saying you want a plan but haven't really expanded on what that meant until today IMHO | 17:39 |
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| sdague | rcrit: ok, sorry, I thought it was clear | 17:39 |
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| mtreinish | anyway, let's move on | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | so I guess the big news this week is cdent landing the ceilo grenade plugin stuff | 17:40 |
| sdague | yeh, I think that's the only big notable | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | which is awesome | 17:40 |
| cdent | does that actually count as a big deal? | 17:40 |
| cdent | if so: go me! :) | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | #info ceilometer grenade plugin migration counts as a big deal | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | :) | 17:41 |
| sdague | :) | 17:41 |
| cdent | ha! | 17:41 |
| morgan | rcrit: you need to catch me up on the patch in question post meeting | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | ok, does anyone else have something on grenade to discuss? | 17:41 |
| morgan | Cc sdague ^ | 17:41 |
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| mtreinish | morgan: where's the grenade discussion point? | 17:42 |
| morgan | This was above. I was slow to type mobile | 17:42 |
| morgan | Before you switched topics. | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | hehe, just giving you a hard time :) | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | anyway, let's move on | 17:43 |
| morgan | ^_^ | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | #topic Adding StackViz to QA (timothyb89 / austin81) | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | timothyb89, austin81: still around? | 17:43 |
| austin81 | yep | 17:43 |
| timothyb89 | yup | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | cool, so why not give like a 2 sentence summary of what stackviz is | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | and maybe a link to it somewhere | 17:44 |
| timothyb89 | stackviz is a utility to view performance and debugging info for runs of devstack and tempest | 17:44 |
| timothyb89 | code is current at https://github.com/timothyb89/stackviz and an example is running at http://15.126.244.104:8080/tempest_timeline_file_testrepository.subunit_0.html | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | #link http://15.126.244.104:8080/tempest_timeline_file_testrepository.subunit_0.html | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://github.com/timothyb89/stackviz | 17:45 |
| jordanP | looks nice ! | 17:45 |
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| sdague | oh, super nice | 17:46 |
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| austin81 | the aim is to make debugging devstack/tempest runs a little more intuitive and eventually apply this knowledge to improving runtimes across the board | 17:46 |
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| sdague | yeh, the timeline is awesome. | 17:47 |
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| jordanP | how could we make this tool more "available" ? | 17:47 |
| austin81 | In the future we plan to integrate the timeline in analysis of upstream runs as well (via subunit2sql mainly) | 17:47 |
| sdague | so, can you break out some of the memory types in the mem section. Because cached vs. used would be good | 17:47 |
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| austin81 | sdague: absolutley yeah that would be helpful | 17:48 |
| timothyb89 | sdague: certainly, we do have all of that data available, presentation is a bit rough at the moment | 17:48 |
| sdague | but, overall, this is super nice | 17:48 |
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| timothyb89 | jordanP: we have a patch to run it during devstack-gate cleanup: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212207/ | 17:48 |
| sdague | would be great to be just in the log dir generated after a run | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212207/ | 17:49 |
| austin81 | jordanP: Correct me if I'm wrong, timothyb89, but I believe there was talk of setting up a small puppet module for a server? | 17:49 |
| timothyb89 | sdague: in fact it is! http://logs.openstack.org/07/212207/4/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/5a812af/logs/stackviz/ | 17:49 |
| sdague | ok, so strackviz needs to go into openstack proper first, right? | 17:49 |
| sdague | then we can retool 212207 for landing | 17:49 |
| timothyb89 | sdague: yes, that is our intention | 17:50 |
| sdague | cool | 17:50 |
| sdague | awesome, great stuff | 17:50 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: yep, which I think what this topic was for, the qa project adoption | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | which I'm +1 on, I'll go add that to the reviews | 17:50 |
| timothyb89 | austin81: yes, though we will need to hash out some details with testr integration | 17:50 |
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| mtreinish | ok cool, does anyone have anything else on this topic? | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | #action QA to adopt stackviz project | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | err or should that be info? whatever | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:52 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any open reviews they'd like to get extra eyes on? | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | I've got a couple this week: | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216522/ | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | which is just a maint thing | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | err got that backwards | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | that's the one which needs discussion | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216438/ | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | that's the general main one | 17:54 |
| mtreinish | just switching to using an oslo lib | 17:54 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216386/ | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | and a docs improvment | 17:55 |
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| mtreinish | I think that's all from me | 17:55 |
| mtreinish | does anyone else have any reviews to bring up? | 17:55 |
| hichihara | My patches need devstack core's reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204951/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204956/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204965/ | 17:55 |
| hichihara | These patches remove dependence of vendor plugin. | 17:55 |
| hichihara | Some vendor codes are unnecessary in neutron_plugins but they are left by the dependence. | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204965/ | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204956/ | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204951/ | 17:56 |
| hichihara | Thanks. If this is merged, we will be able to remove their codes from neutron_plugins. | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | hichihara: ok, cool. I'll try to take a look after lunch | 17:56 |
| hichihara | mtreinish: Thank you :) | 17:57 |
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| mtreinish | are there any other reviews? otherwise I guess we'll end here for today | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | oh, before I forget if you're planning on coming to the qa code sprint can you throw your name on the wiki: | 17:58 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/CodeSprintLibertyFortCollins | 17:58 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:58 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 17:59:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-08-27-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-08-27-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-08-27-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
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| daneyon_ | #startmeeting container-networking | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 18:00:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is daneyon_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'container_networking' | 18:00 |
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| daneyon_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda | 18:00 |
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| daneyon_ | #topic roll call | 18:01 |
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| daneyon_ | o/ | 18:01 |
| dane_leblanc | o/ | 18:01 |
| Tango | o/ | 18:01 |
| thomasem | o/ | 18:01 |
| suro-patz | o/ | 18:01 |
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| daneyon_ | Thank you dane_leblanc Tango suro-patz thomasem for joining | 18:02 |
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| daneyon_ | Lets wait until :05 for toher to join then we'll proceed | 18:02 |
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| daneyon_ | OK, let's move forward | 18:05 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Review/Discuss Kuryr Design Spec | 18:05 |
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| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213490/ | 18:05 |
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| daneyon_ | Lets take until :15 for everyone to review the spec and reconvene | 18:06 |
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| daneyon_ | i'll be monitoring irc for any questions | 18:06 |
| daneyon_ | But that doesn't mean I have all the answers ;-) | 18:07 |
| daneyon_ | keep in mind the spec is a wip | 18:08 |
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| Tango | So to visualize how we would use kuryr: would it be an option in the new --network-driver parameter? | 18:09 |
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| Tango | as an alternate to something like "flannel" | 18:10 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango yes | 18:12 |
| daneyon_ | and yes | 18:12 |
| dane_leblanc | Tango: That's what I would think, where magnum would then be issuing the 'sudo docker network create...' commands for Kuryr | 18:13 |
| daneyon_ | and then pass any kuryr config params using labels | 18:13 |
| daneyon_ | same approach for all network drivers | 18:13 |
| daneyon_ | or the other option is to pass --network-driver libnetwork and specify libnetwork's native/remote driver using --labels | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | what option does the team prefer? | 18:15 |
| Tango | Sounds good, we probably need to experiment with it a bit to see what works | 18:15 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango agreed | 18:15 |
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| daneyon_ | anyone have question re: the kuryr spec? | 18:16 |
| daneyon_ | i'm sure you need more time to dive into it | 18:16 |
| daneyon_ | Please do so and provide you comments in the review | 18:16 |
| thomasem | I'm a bit of a slow reader, so I'll just add comments as I see things. | 18:17 |
| Tango | They don't seem to mention performance, I wonder if that would be important to some users | 18:17 |
| daneyon_ | as you can see from the spec, their are still a lot of questions that need to be answered and a lot of details that need to be sorted out. | 18:17 |
| daneyon_ | However, I think it's headed in a good direction. | 18:17 |
| daneyon_ | thomasem take your time. I just wanted to use this time to get the team moving forward with reviewing | 18:18 |
| thomasem | yeppers | 18:18 |
| thomasem | :) | 18:18 |
| daneyon_ | Tango it should mention performance, so pls add a comment in the review | 18:18 |
| thomasem | I'm wondering what the mental model is around handling OpenStack credentials here. | 18:18 |
| thomasem | for the Magnum side of things | 18:19 |
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| daneyon_ | the spec references supporting Magnum use cases, where performance is a use case. However, it might be a good idea to be explicit in the spec | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | unless their is more discussion on the kuryr spec, I would like to move forward. | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | and I'll keep the kuryr spec on our agenda for next week b/c i think it's very important for us to stay involved. | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Review Kuryr Integration Brainstorming EtherPad | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | I have added a few add'l notes | 18:21 |
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| daneyon_ | the kuryr team called out keeping tabs on this etherpad during their irc meeting | 18:21 |
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| daneyon_ | the etherpad is a bit of a mess. It will get cleaned up soon. | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | thomasem their are some good notes related to auth in the kuryr integration brainstorming ep | 18:22 |
| thomasem | looking now | 18:22 |
| daneyon_ | thomasem thx | 18:22 |
| thomasem | thank ya muchly! | 18:22 |
| daneyon_ | lets have everyone review the etherpad until :35 | 18:23 |
| daneyon_ | I'll be monitoring irc for any questions | 18:23 |
| daneyon_ | but let's try to keep as much as possible in the ep | 18:23 |
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| daneyon_ | pls put your handle under Contributors if you add to the ep | 18:24 |
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| daneyon_ | t- 4 min | 18:31 |
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| daneyon_ | OK, let's move on | 18:36 |
| daneyon_ | We'll keep this topic for next week | 18:37 |
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| daneyon_ | i know we are all busy and it's nice having time during this meeting to dive into these efforts | 18:37 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Review Action Items | 18:37 |
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| daneyon_ | ACTION: everyone to continue contributing to the kuryr/magnum networking integration etherpad | 18:37 |
| daneyon_ | I have added to the ep and I know others have | 18:38 |
| daneyon_ | pls continue to do so | 18:38 |
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| daneyon_ | Again, in the next week or 2, I'll start organizing the ep into actionable steps | 18:39 |
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| daneyon_ | #action danehans to take action next week on organizing the kuryr etherpad into actionable steps | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | an action for an action | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | crazy | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: everyone review the kuryr design spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186617/ | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | I have reviewed and commented on the kuryr design spec | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | I know other have too | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | pls continue to do so. | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | those are the only actions from last week | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Open Discussion | 18:41 |
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| daneyon_ | I’ve been plugging away at the Magnum net spec bp’s and wip patches: | 18:41 |
| daneyon_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-08-20-18.00.html | 18:41 |
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| thomasem | daneyon_: Has anyone been able to step up to help cover that work? | 18:42 |
| daneyon_ | i have a working setup where i can define --network-driver flannel or not specify a driver and the k8s coe uses flannel (b/c it's the default) using my wip patches | 18:42 |
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| daneyon_ | I have been turning my attention towards labels so we can pass in params to the driver | 18:43 |
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| daneyon_ | b/c without labels, only driver default settings will be applied | 18:43 |
| daneyon_ | thomasem a few people have contacted me saying they are going to test the wip patches | 18:43 |
| thomasem | Gotcha | 18:44 |
| daneyon_ | It would be great if everyone could test | 18:44 |
| Tango | Will do | 18:44 |
| daneyon_ | #action everyone test network-driver wip patches | 18:44 |
| daneyon_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-08-20-18.00.html | 18:44 |
| thomasem | daneyon_: Great. Thanks. Just got some work moved off my plate recently, so going to take a stab at whether I can finally get some time to actually work on this stuff. | 18:44 |
| daneyon_ | if you add to any of them, please make sure to include yourself as a co-author | 18:45 |
| thomasem | And stop being *that* guy in the room. | 18:45 |
| daneyon_ | adding the network-driver attribute was not too bad. Labels is a whole different story | 18:45 |
| thomasem | lol | 18:45 |
| daneyon_ | partially b/c magnum supports labels for pods | 18:45 |
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| thomasem | Well, are you wanting to include, like, validation and what-not for each driver? | 18:46 |
| daneyon_ | 1 moment pls | 18:46 |
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| daneyon_ | I am reviewing Glance code as a reference model for labels | 18:46 |
| thomasem | Ah | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | Glance supports the --property <key=value> attribute that appears to be very similar to what we're trying to accomplish with labels. | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | we need conductor to parse the labels being passed into heat parameters. | 18:48 |
| daneyon_ | thomasem no worries | 18:48 |
| Tango | Heat has something similar also with --parameters | 18:48 |
| daneyon_ | thomasem i would like to validate the driver being supplied. I believe someone provided a comment on that very topic | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | feel free to add | 18:49 |
| thomasem | Gotcha | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | atm, i would like to keep my focus on the label support | 18:49 |
| thomasem | Yeah... I mean even a straight pass through is better than nothing at this point. | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | Tango can you please provide a link | 18:49 |
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| thomasem | Fail-fast from validation is more a nice-to-have, really | 18:50 |
| thomasem | :P | 18:50 |
| daneyon_ | agreed | 18:50 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango if you can not find a link to what you;re referencing, pls send it to me by irc afterward | 18:51 |
| Tango | Yep, I used to work around this code in Heat | 18:51 |
| daneyon_ | It will be easier to just pass along all the labels unparsed to heat and have heat fail the stack create if the labels are incorrect. But maybe I'm wrong.. just trying to investigate options | 18:52 |
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| daneyon_ | We are running near the end of the meeting. | 18:53 |
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| daneyon_ | Does anyone else have open discussion items? | 18:53 |
| daneyon_ | Otherwise, we'll close early and get back to work :-) | 18:54 |
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| daneyon_ | OK | 18:54 |
| daneyon_ | That's a wrap. | 18:54 |
| daneyon_ | Have a great day! | 18:54 |
| Tango | Thanks! | 18:54 |
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| daneyon_ | #endmeeting | 18:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 18:55:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-08-27-18.00.html | 18:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-08-27-18.00.txt | 18:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-08-27-18.00.log.html | 18:55 |
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| thomasem | Cheers! | 18:56 |
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| terrylhowe | Anyone here for the OSC meeting? | 19:02 |
| Fdaisuke | Hi, I'm here. | 19:03 |
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| MeganR | Hi, I am new, but here. | 19:03 |
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| terrylhowe | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 19:04:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is terrylhowe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:04 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:04 |
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| terrylhowe | Dean and Steve are AFK, so how about we give them a couple minutes | 19:04 |
| Fdaisuke | Okey | 19:05 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 19:07 |
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| terrylhowe | Well might as well move on with a quick meeting at least | 19:08 |
| terrylhowe | #topic bugs | 19:08 |
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| terrylhowe | There are several bugs that need to be triaged | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bugs?orderby=status&start=0 | 19:11 |
| terrylhowe | I see some that may be invalid now | 19:11 |
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| terrylhowe | #topic reviews | 19:12 |
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| terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-openstackclient,n,z | 19:12 |
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| terrylhowe | Fdaisuke: I take it this is yours https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186720/ | 19:13 |
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| terrylhowe | I’m thinking nothing is going on there until Dean gets back | 19:13 |
| terrylhowe | thanks for the reviews by the way | 19:13 |
| Fdaisuke | terrylhowe: thank you too:) | 19:14 |
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| terrylhowe | you got things going with the logging clean up. I’d like to work on configuration next if that all goes through | 19:14 |
| terrylhowe | Does anyone have anything they’d like to discuss? | 19:15 |
| terrylhowe | If not I’ll end it. Still no sign of Dean or Steve | 19:15 |
| Fdaisuke | terrylhowe: Is there anything I can do for it to be merged? | 19:15 |
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| terrylhowe | I don’t think so Fdaisuke just waiting for Dean to recover and return. He has been online recently, so soon I’d think | 19:17 |
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| Fdaisuke | Ok, I'm waiting for Dean | 19:18 |
| Fdaisuke | thank you. | 19:18 |
| terrylhowe | Thanks, calling it | 19:18 |
| terrylhowe | #endmeeting | 19:18 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-08-27-19.04.html | 19:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting Nova | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 27 21:01:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:01 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | hiya | 21:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:01 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:01 |
| edleafe | o/ | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| scottda | hi | 21:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release Status | 21:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info September 1st to 3rd: Liberty-3 and the mega freeze | 21:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | so next week we hit string freeze, dependency freeze, feature freeze, and all that jazz | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | and novaclient 2.27.0 release on 9/1 | 21:03 |
| bauzas | big question, fencing on Tues or Thur ? | 21:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info mriedem is working on putting together a python-novaclient release on tuesday, let him know if there is something that must be in that | 21:03 |
| mriedem | someone remind me early if i forget | 21:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: good question | 21:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: it generally depends on the gate | 21:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we start tuesday, to ensure we release by thursday | 21:04 |
| bauzas | we agree it's a soft deadline, just a l-3 tag ? | 21:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: this is a super hard one | 21:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | our friends doing translations and docs need our help by sticking to the deadline | 21:04 |
| dansmith | second-hardest of all | 21:05 |
| bauzas | by 'soft' I meant about tagging or branching | 21:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, its tagging | 21:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | we branch at RC | 21:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | unless I missing something major | 21:05 |
| bauzas | okay, was just checking | 21:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools, its good to check | 21:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I am kinda winding a few things up already, you will have noticed a few cells ones get the the chop this afternoon | 21:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | mostly stuff that was looking like a no hoper, in terms of merging | 21:06 |
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| dims | o/ | 21:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | I vote we talk in next weeks meeting about the exception process | 21:06 |
| bauzas | +1 | 21:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, any more questions? | 21:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | we can always cover those in Open | 21:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Nova)" | 21:07 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think you had some gate patches earlier, any more to cover here? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | graph looks good on http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1487570 | 21:07 |
| mriedem | so i don't know of any critical nova-specific gate bugs right now | 21:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | so at some point very soon, we need to start looking about for release blockers | 21:08 |
| mriedem | looks like cells is impacted by https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1489581 | 21:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489581 in tempest "test_create_ebs_image_and_check_boot is race failing" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Andrey Pavlov (apavlov-e) | 21:08 |
| bauzas | yup | 21:08 |
| mriedem | as are most things | 21:08 |
| mriedem | there is a patch up in tempest to fix that though | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i added nova to that bug since it seems we could do some validation/wait logic in nova in that case | 21:08 |
| mriedem | not high priority though | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | would be a good time for subteams to raise up high priority bugs for them before l-3 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | like, in the etherpad, not here | 21:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Guide#Special_actions_between_Feature_freeze_and_RC1 | 21:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: very very good point | 21:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I vote we keep using this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:10 |
| bauzas | before l-3 seems a bit short, I was planning to focus on bugs during RC1 | 21:10 |
| mriedem | bauzas: rc1 is too late | 21:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help please raise up high priority (possibly release blocking) bugs in the appropriate subteam in here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | rc bugs are stopship | 21:10 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: this last cycle was bug fixing time, hence the kicking out of the blueprints really | 21:11 |
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| bauzas | okay, I thought FF was the best period for focusing on bugs, if not then l-3 ? | 21:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah **-3 is a great time for bugs | 21:12 |
| dansmith | between L3 and RC1 | 21:12 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that ^ | 21:12 |
| dansmith | you said "during RC1" | 21:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, bugs only for now | 21:12 |
| bauzas | dansmith: when I say RC1, I mean the FF period | 21:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah | 21:12 |
| dansmith | which we interpreted as "between RC1 and RC2" I think | 21:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 21:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | confusion | 21:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways bugs fixes now | 21:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | go go bug fixes | 21:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | ideally ones people care about | 21:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should move on I guess | 21:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 21:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I skipped stuck reviews and regular reminders | 21:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | because there are none, and we covered the reminders already | 21:14 |
| dansmith | yay | 21:14 |
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| * dansmith cues the "wrap it up music" | 21:14 | |
| johnthetubaguy | I dumped some random stuff in here, but should be quick | 21:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: heh | 21:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so summit session slots | 21:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have to submit our requests | 21:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think we wanted the same as last time? if I remember the wrap up session correctly? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | keep in mind that i think cinder was interested in a cross-project session | 21:15 |
| mriedem | thingee: ^ | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | friday meetup is always popular | 21:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, good point, I think we can do that like the neutron one, I should ask ttx about the scheduling on that | 21:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, friday meet up is solid | 21:15 |
| mriedem | thursday afternoon priorities | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | how do you plan on getting suggestions for topics and filtering that soonish? | 21:16 |
| scottda | yes, cinder is interested in a cross-project session | 21:16 |
| scottda | to discuss changes in Cinder-Nova API | 21:16 |
| dansmith | I think the bar for those sessions is high | 21:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I think thats later on | 21:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think its more likely to be a nova sessions, thats tagged also as cinder | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i'm just asking, i wont' be there so it doesn't really matter ot me | 21:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | cross project told me, "more than two projects" | 21:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | which was totally fair | 21:17 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:17 |
| mriedem | orly | 21:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: :'( | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i guess that makes sense | 21:17 |
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| sc68cal | we plan on having a cross project session for nova neutron | 21:17 |
| sc68cal | even if to just recap work since Vancouver | 21:17 |
| sc68cal | ? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | was there progress since YVR? | 21:17 |
| * mriedem pokes | 21:17 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so we should back up a little | 21:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | there are going to be tones of sessions | 21:18 |
| dansmith | I think that getting another one for nova-neutron will probably be hard | 21:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | the question is, room formats | 21:18 |
| bauzas | fishbowls? | 21:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, they will not let us do another cross project on that | 21:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 21:18 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: sounds like "same as last time" | 21:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah I am +1 that | 21:18 |
| sc68cal | mriedem: yes there was :/ | 21:18 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: who wont? | 21:18 |
| dansmith | mriedem: they | 21:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: the cross project folks (TC?) | 21:18 |
| mriedem | f them | 21:19 |
| mriedem | are they actually working on the projects? if not, why do they have a say? | 21:19 |
| anteaya | yeah it is a tc sub committee who decides cross project sessions, from those proposed | 21:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I figure we just use one of our sessions, and invite our neutron folks to join, but we can work that out | 21:19 |
| mriedem | sure | 21:19 |
| mriedem | bend the rules | 21:19 |
| mriedem | or friday meetup | 21:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, we can do what we like with "Nova" time | 21:19 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: if we need one, yeah | 21:19 |
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| anteaya | we can propose a cross project session and have a back up plan | 21:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: right, thats the other question | 21:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anteaya: yeah, that worked last time | 21:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways | 21:20 |
| mriedem | cross project: nova + neutron + nfv + containers + ansible | 21:20 |
| mriedem | done | 21:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are good with no work rooms | 21:20 |
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| dansmith | TBH, I'm surprised we're even having this shindig, given that mriedem isn't coming | 21:20 |
| anteaya | what? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | i know | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | seriously | 21:21 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: I don't think we'll have anything we can meaningfully do in an hour | 21:21 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: so I'd say no workrooms | 21:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: I certainly lean that way | 21:21 |
| dansmith | +1 | 21:21 |
| dansmith | leave those for the people that actually do work | 21:21 |
| mriedem | workrooms != design sessions right? | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | I like the "make it really hard to use your laptop" rooms, it stimulates conversation | 21:21 |
| mriedem | workroom == "hackathon" | 21:21 |
| tonyb | mriedem: correct | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | it has tables | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | and new for this time, a LCD screen | 21:22 |
| tonyb | mriedem: You get ~1hour to "knock something out" | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I think it is "boardroom style" | 21:22 |
| tonyb | mriedem: they work well but only for small tightly defined things | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: it might actually be 45 mins, but thats splitting hairs | 21:22 |
| tonyb | ie not nova :D | 21:22 |
| mriedem | dansmith is going to lose it if we don't move on | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | me too | 21:22 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: I said ~(approx)1hour :) | 21:22 |
| * dansmith hovers over the play button | 21:22 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so I am voting same as next time | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, lets see if that works | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | its a small venue | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | user survey | 21:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there is a new one | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | let me know if there are questions you want it that | 21:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and I can pass that along to foundation folks organising that | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | except I should have told them on tuesday, so make it quick | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | one more thing, just to annoy people | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | Product management working group | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am actually talking to them | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are getting a CPL | 21:24 |
| mriedem | oh boy | 21:24 |
| mriedem | suits | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | he seems nice though, he used to code | 21:24 |
| dansmith | oh dear | 21:24 |
| mriedem | fortran | 21:24 |
| tonyb | CPL? | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | (if its the person I think it is) | 21:24 |
| mriedem | for the space program | 21:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | CPL = cross project liason | 21:24 |
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| tonyb | Ah | 21:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | (apparently, although with better spelling) | 21:25 |
| bauzas | what's the goal of that ? | 21:25 |
| dansmith | to liase! | 21:25 |
| dansmith | between projects! | 21:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: so I have one goal, they have another | 21:25 |
| dansmith | 3. Profit! | 21:25 |
| mriedem | bauzas: to tell you to prioritize NFV + containers + neutron + ansible | 21:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | I want them to give folks more permission to work on priorities | 21:25 |
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| anteaya | folks more permission? | 21:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am working with them to convince your product managers that you should fix the things that need fixing | 21:26 |
| anteaya | what folks? | 21:26 |
| anteaya | ah thanks | 21:26 |
| bauzas | anteaya: having people helping peons like us | 21:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I hope to keep them busy thinking about that | 21:26 |
| anteaya | I'm for that | 21:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so they don't dream up any crazy feature requests, but lets see how that goes | 21:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, its a thing, I am hoping they will actually be able to help | 21:26 |
| anteaya | they already what to add state features to comply with legal requirements for getting user data | 21:27 |
| anteaya | it is on the large deployments etherpad from the ops meetup | 21:27 |
| * dansmith feels like we're done here | 21:27 | |
| tonyb | Can I ask about Juno? | 21:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, so if you are interested in all that | 21:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | then get in touch | 21:28 |
| tonyb | dansmith: you can ignore me if you like I wont mind | 21:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: in a troll way, or a real way? | 21:28 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: a real way sorry | 21:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tonyb: OK, 2 mins | 21:28 |
| tonyb | so devstack in juno is broken mriedem and I have been trying to fix it | 21:28 |
| mriedem | tonyb: the swiftclient 2.3.2 release will be out today | 21:28 |
| tonyb | it's slow going and is gettign bigger | 21:28 |
| mriedem | tonyb: stable maint isn't just a nova problem | 21:29 |
| tonyb | mriedem: \o/ | 21:29 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Sure but how much effort do we want to go to giebn juno will EOL in nov? | 21:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we not run stable branch tests reguarly? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | stable branch is tested in a nightly periodic job | 21:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | like more often than when we get the odd patch | 21:29 |
| mriedem | results are posted to the stable ML | 21:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: ah, does anyone watch that? | 21:29 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: it's goign to touch lots of projects if things keep going the way they are .... | 21:29 |
| mriedem | it's up to humans to read those | 21:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, right | 21:30 |
| mriedem | i don't know exactly when stable/juno is EOL | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | we just recently EOL'ed stable/icehouse, so i wouldn't think juno is EOL until sometime in mitaka | 21:30 |
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| dansmith | can we just wait until it is EOL? :) | 21:30 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: (early) Nov from the wiki | 21:30 |
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| dansmith | I can totally make excuses for two months | 21:30 |
| mriedem | right, is there a problem? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | a *new* problem? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | stable will be kind of a mess until stable/liberty due to the reqs caps issue | 21:31 |
| mtreinish | dansmith: running out the clock on stable is my normal attitude | 21:31 |
| dansmith | +1 | 21:31 |
| mriedem | until then it's biz as usual with a handful of people maintaining it | 21:31 |
| mtreinish | but there is someone who always complains about it | 21:31 |
| mriedem | like me :) | 21:31 |
| mtreinish | yep | 21:31 |
| tonyb | mriedem: Nothing new just the fallout from the swiftclient thing | 21:31 |
| mriedem | yeah, so that's fine | 21:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: you actually do both though right? I am cool with that | 21:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, cool | 21:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we are done I think | 21:31 |
| tonyb | mriedem: but with L3 coming up dhellmann is asking to pause on the stable releases and EOL etc | 21:31 |
| mriedem | tonyb: just go back through the stable rant history in the ML | 21:32 |
| mriedem | :) | 21:32 |
| mriedem | i haven't seen requests to EOL early | 21:32 |
| * med_ hears about a swiftclient stable thing and quakes in his boots. | 21:32 | |
| mriedem | med_: purely for our gate testing | 21:32 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: that's just because I haven't had to look at it in a month or 2 | 21:32 |
| tonyb | med_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-swiftclient/+bug/1486576 | 21:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1486576 in python-swiftclient "version 2.3.1 on stable/juno has uncapped futures which breaks dep resolution with capped taskflow" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 21:32 |
| mriedem | anyway, we can take this offline | 21:32 |
| mriedem | plus i'm leaving | 21:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | talking of clocks... | 21:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: leaving? | 21:33 |
| med_ | mriedem, tonyb tx. | 21:33 |
| mriedem | like, work | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i'm leaving work | 21:33 |
| mriedem | :) | 21:33 |
| mriedem | not nova | 21:33 |
| mriedem | not pulling a jogo | 21:33 |
| * dansmith smashes the button on the wrap-it-up music player | 21:33 | |
| tonyb | lol | 21:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | lol | 21:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 21:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | enjoy the music | 21:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 21:33 |
| dansmith | :P | 21:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 27 21:33:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-08-27-21.01.html | 21:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-08-27-21.01.txt | 21:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-08-27-21.01.log.html | 21:33 |
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