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| JRobinson__ | Hello all, the APAC docs meeting is set to start in about 15 minutes | 00:15 |
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| asettle | Thanks JRobinson__ :) | 00:15 |
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| JRobinson__ | np asettle | 00:17 |
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| loquacities | docs meeting: assemble! | 00:30 |
| loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 00:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 00:30:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 00:30 |
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| loquacities | who's here? | 00:31 |
| asettle | yo o/ | 00:31 |
| katomo | Hi! | 00:31 |
| darrenc | hello | 00:31 |
| loquacities | heya asettle katomo darrenc :) | 00:31 |
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| loquacities | that's it? | 00:33 |
| loquacities | small turnout for so close to release :S | 00:33 |
| asettle | JRobinson__: was here a few seconds ago. | 00:33 |
| JRobinson__ | Here o/ | 00:34 |
| loquacities | i'd really like to see petr kovar or andrew dahms ... | 00:34 |
| JRobinson__ | distracted, | 00:34 |
| asettle | Is Dahms even in this channel anymore? | 00:34 |
| loquacities | np JRobinson__ | 00:34 |
| loquacities | he's in the docs channel from time to time | 00:34 |
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| loquacities | ok, let's roll through this real quick then | 00:35 |
| loquacities | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 00:35 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:35 | |
| loquacities | i don't believe there are any | 00:35 |
| loquacities | #topic Specs in review | 00:35 |
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| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 00:35 |
| loquacities | nothing new here, just the trove and magnum ones we saw last time | 00:35 |
| loquacities | i'm also expecting another UI/UX one from linette soon | 00:36 |
| loquacities | they want to add some more personas etc info to the contributor guide | 00:36 |
| loquacities | #topic Speciality teams | 00:36 |
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| loquacities | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Speciality_Team_Reports | 00:36 |
| JRobinson__ | The trove spec looks okay from my point of view. | 00:36 |
| loquacities | the speciality team reporting will cease from now until after summit | 00:36 |
| loquacities | in the meantime, though, we need speciality team leads to propose a patch to clean up the release notes | 00:37 |
| loquacities | now that we have that repo all set up | 00:37 |
| JRobinson__ | #info speciality team leads - submit a patch to the release notes for Mitaka | 00:37 |
| loquacities | thanks | 00:37 |
| JRobinson__ | thanks for the reminder loquacities :) | 00:37 |
| loquacities | np, i'll send another note to the list on that probably later this week | 00:38 |
| loquacities | #topic Countdown to release | 00:38 |
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| loquacities | #info 14 days to go | 00:38 |
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| asettle | Yikes, really? | 00:38 |
| loquacities | yeah, really | 00:39 |
| loquacities | release tasks are being tracked here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MitakaRelease | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #info release tasks are being tracked here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MitakaRelease | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #info Install Guide testing | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #undo | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | #info Install Guide testing is underway, track here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MitakaDocTesting | 00:40 |
| loquacities | #info suse have completed testing the suse guide, which is amazing! | 00:40 |
| katomo | need more tester :( | 00:40 |
| loquacities | katomo: absolutely | 00:40 |
| loquacities | but we're definitely seeing more green than this time last week ;) | 00:41 |
| loquacities | so matt is working on RDO right now | 00:41 |
| asettle | Okay great | 00:41 |
| katomo | great! | 00:41 |
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| loquacities | haven't seen any actual testing from RH yet, which is disappointing after the effort we've gone to to try and make that happen this time around | 00:41 |
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| loquacities | as for ubuntu, brian will be working on that once he gets back from leave next week | 00:42 |
| loquacities | and i heard from harry sutton that he's going to get going on that, too | 00:42 |
| loquacities | he did a lot of testing last round as well, so it's nice to see him back again | 00:42 |
| asettle | Yay Harry | 00:42 |
| loquacities | indeed | 00:42 |
| katomo | good | 00:43 |
| loquacities | you might also notice from that matrix that keystone is broken | 00:43 |
| asettle | Yeah, I did. | 00:43 |
| asettle | What's up there? | 00:43 |
| loquacities | matt is talking to the keystone guys to try and work through that | 00:43 |
| loquacities | asettle: same old story | 00:43 |
| asettle | Oh good, I'm glad we're switching things up. | 00:43 |
| loquacities | we never find out about keystone changes until we test | 00:43 |
| loquacities | anyway, this will all be the subject of a conversation at summit, so we can do a bit of a retrospective there | 00:44 |
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| loquacities | overall, so far we're doing better than we did for liberty | 00:44 |
| loquacities | which is not saying much, really, but it's something ;) | 00:44 |
| loquacities | any questions before we move on? | 00:44 |
| JRobinson__ | I missed that -connection issue - but I'll read the minutes, so np | 00:44 |
| loquacities | JRobinson__: sorry, there's a bit too much to paste | 00:45 |
| loquacities | meetbot will have it for you ;) | 00:45 |
| asettle | Okay cool :) | 00:45 |
| JRobinson__ | it's fine I'll have it in a minute from meetbot :) | 00:45 |
| loquacities | :) | 00:45 |
| loquacities | #topic Summit Planning | 00:45 |
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| loquacities | #info I'll be taking the PTL reins again for Newton | 00:45 |
| loquacities | #info We have room allocations, please update https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Newton-DocsSessions | 00:46 |
| loquacities | there's some really good suggestions in that etherpad already | 00:46 |
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| loquacities | please remember to +1 anything you like the look of | 00:46 |
| asettle | Awesome :) thanks | 00:46 |
| loquacities | i'll be doing the room allocations probably early next week | 00:47 |
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| darrenc | may I ask what's the difference between a fishbowl and workroom? | 00:47 |
| loquacities | so try to get your votes in by end this week if you can | 00:47 |
| loquacities | a fishbowl is usually a larger room, and more suited to a presenter talking to an audience | 00:47 |
| katomo | okay | 00:47 |
| loquacities | where a workroom is smaller, and everyone is usually seated around a table | 00:47 |
| darrenc | gotcha, thanks | 00:48 |
| loquacities | i tend to (loosely) use fishbowls for planning, where we all edit an etherpad on the screen | 00:48 |
| loquacities | where workrooms are more for getting actual work done | 00:48 |
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| loquacities | we have more sessions this time than we did in tokyo, so we should be able to have smaller agenda, generally speaking | 00:48 |
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| loquacities | last time i had to squish things together a bit more than i would have liked | 00:49 |
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| loquacities | any other summit-related stuff? | 00:49 |
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| JRobinson__ | no comments here atm | 00:49 |
| loquacities | cool cool | 00:49 |
| loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 00:49 |
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| loquacities | don't forget our release liaisons for mitaka are brian and olga | 00:50 |
| asettle | Sounds good :) | 00:50 |
| katomo | sure | 00:50 |
| loquacities | feel free to ask them (or me) questions, or add things to the release etherpad | 00:50 |
| loquacities | you can also play along at home with the etherpad, if that floats your goat | 00:51 |
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| loquacities | and please, if you have spare time, spend it on install guide testing | 00:51 |
| loquacities | anything else? | 00:51 |
| JRobinson__ | okay, etherpad checking is important, and | 00:51 |
| katomo | nothing | 00:51 |
| asettle | I would like a floating goat. | 00:51 |
| loquacities | wouldn't we all | 00:52 |
| JRobinson__ | #info install guide testing is ongoing - please test if you have time aside | 00:52 |
| loquacities | http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/6790762_700b_v1.jpg | 00:52 |
| loquacities | JRobinson__: ta! | 00:52 |
| loquacities | ok, that's it i think | 00:52 |
| loquacities | thanks everyone :) | 00:52 |
| asettle | I wonder if I can get my ex-intern who is keen as to work on more technical stuff to help out with the install guide | 00:52 |
| asettle | Thanks :) | 00:52 |
| JRobinson__ | np | 00:52 |
| darrenc | thank you | 00:53 |
| loquacities | #endmeeting | 00:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 00:53:14 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-03-23-00.30.html | 00:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-03-23-00.30.txt | 00:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-03-23-00.30.log.html | 00:53 |
| katomo | thanks, all | 00:53 |
| loquacities | thanks katomo | 00:53 |
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| JRobinson__ | okay, all caught up, thanks everyone :) | 00:55 |
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| dguitarbite | #startmeeting training-labs | 10:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 10:31:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dguitarbite. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-labs)" | 10:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_labs' | 10:31 |
| dguitarbite | Hello | 10:31 |
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| dguitarbite | Julen are you here? | 10:32 |
| dguitarbite | Roger is going to be late today. | 10:32 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: Hi! | 10:35 |
| julen | hey!! here I am | 10:35 |
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| zzxwill | What's training_labs? | 10:36 |
| julen | so, roger is coming later... | 10:36 |
| dguitarbite | zzxwill: Its a project which deploys multi-node openstack cluster on VM's for users for training and POC's | 10:36 |
| dguitarbite | julen: yes, Roger may join us after 12. If we are still working till then. | 10:37 |
| zzxwill | Got it. Thanks:) | 10:37 |
| dguitarbite | zzxwill: Checkout https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/training-labs | 10:38 |
| zzxwill | Sure. | 10:38 |
| dguitarbite | julen: So what do we discuss today ;) | 10:38 |
| julen | what about the PXE functionality we talked about on the e-mails? | 10:39 |
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| julen | I have been trying to work a little bit on that, but I am now stuck at some point | 10:40 |
| julen | so... 1) create base, 2) clone base into another machine and 3) start executing cmds into the new machine trough ssh | 10:41 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: The point of PXE is to use them for DC based applications. The overhead may not be ideal for home computers | 10:41 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Do you agree with me? | 10:42 |
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| dguitarbite | I would suggest sticking to kernel image and initrd ram disk ... is there something wrong with that? | 10:42 |
| julen | hmm... I am not sure I understand... | 10:43 |
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| julen | do you mean, avoid the PXE functionality completely? | 10:44 |
| dguitarbite | I meant that using the initrd and ramdisk for injecting the kernel to boot and then install the OS, what is wrong with that approach because PXE booting may need some additional resources. | 10:44 |
| dguitarbite | julen: In a way, that is what PXE booting does does it not? | 10:44 |
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| julen | well... yes | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | But is there an additional overhead for PXE or you are just planning to emulate PXE environment for booting? | 10:47 |
| julen | but I think it shouldn't need so many extra resources... It's just a single VM which does not need too much, since it's just the tftp and dhcp | 10:47 |
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| julen | wait, I'll explain it in more detail | 10:47 |
| julen | so, this is the plan: | 10:47 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Yeah, for baremetal this should be a good option. For VM based architecture its not a good ideae. | 10:47 |
| dguitarbite | We are already running low on resources for the controller node. Trying our best to compress it as much as possible. | 10:48 |
| dguitarbite | s/compress/consolidate/ | 10:48 |
| julen | 1) create a pxe_server from the base disk, 2) run a script on the pxe_server for configuring tftp and dhcp, 3) extract and hack an ubuntu image enabling boot with different settings for controller and compute(s) | 10:49 |
| julen | 4) start a VM or a baremetal machine on the pxe_network and select the node we want to install | 10:50 |
| julen | this way, one could install openstack with osbash also into baremetal | 10:51 |
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| julen | but the current install method would of course be preferred for local PoC installations | 10:51 |
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| julen | just that the pxe option would allow also for provisioning into metal | 10:52 |
| julen | what do you think? | 10:52 |
| dguitarbite | I think for baremetal its a good way to go ahead. Also for providing a way to create customized images. | 10:52 |
| dguitarbite | How much effort do you think it takes to cover all different possibilities for real deployments ?? | 10:53 |
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| julen | uff.. that sounds tricky... | 10:53 |
| julen | but the point is just to make a PoC on standard hardware, right? | 10:54 |
| julen | so, in principle, it should be enough with running the same scripts that run on the VMs | 10:54 |
| dguitarbite | yes, I mean to say that can we figure out a simple one click way for covering all POC/common hardware installations? Ofcourse not meaning to support all the advanced server booting methods. | 10:55 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: I am interested in adding this as another way to install the cluster (plugin/backend). We should definatly sit together and brainstorm this during the summit. | 10:55 |
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| dguitarbite | btw. I am confirmed for the summit, unless I get issues with my VISA. | 10:56 |
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| julen | definitely | 10:56 |
| julen | great! :D | 10:56 |
| dguitarbite | But, I would not keep this as the only way to deploy the cluster. | 10:56 |
| julen | of course not | 10:56 |
| dguitarbite | Think about laptops having 4 GB ram, I can forsee a lot of problems trying to have another VM | 10:56 |
| julen | the current way is definitely much more efficient and elegant | 10:56 |
| dguitarbite | only for a specific use-case! | 10:56 |
| dguitarbite | your way is also efficient and elegant but for other use-cases :) | 10:57 |
| dguitarbite | How comfertable are you with Python? | 10:57 |
| julen | aha! now I will tell you another use case: someone has a 4GB laptop, a switch AND another two old computers ;) | 10:57 |
| dguitarbite | I would definalty do this in Python and not in BASH. It is getting incredibly complex right now and we should move to python soon/ | 10:57 |
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| julen | well.. I feel quite comfortable with python, and it is definitely my language of choice for certain tasks, but remember.. I also decided to write my installer in Bash, and there was a reason for that | 10:59 |
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| julen | in bomsi, the only python part is the tool for editing ini files | 11:00 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: https://github.com/dguitarbite/labs-POC | 11:00 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: I want to rewrite everything but the guest scripts in Python | 11:00 |
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| julen | uff... that sounds like so much work! | 11:02 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: Yeah! That is a lot of work :D | 11:02 |
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| julen | well... but then... what about the PXE? | 11:03 |
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| julen | should I finish it? | 11:04 |
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| dguitarbite | Upto you I would say. But if you can wait till the summit it would be better so we can discuss it better and plan it. | 11:05 |
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| dguitarbite | Its barely a month to the summit now isnt it ;) | 11:05 |
| julen | yes... | 11:05 |
| dguitarbite | And my apologizes, I havent gotton enough time to reply to emails. I am getting super busy these days. | 11:05 |
| julen | but the whole thing is quite simple to implement... I just get a little bit lost between all those wrappers :P | 11:06 |
| julen | of course... no problemo :) | 11:06 |
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| julen | aha! rluethi: | 11:07 |
| rluethi | hey | 11:07 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Yo! | 11:07 |
| rluethi | sorry, had another meeting, now done there. | 11:07 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: No worries :). | 11:08 |
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| julen | we were taking about the PXE functionality and the PoC python version of osbash | 11:08 |
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| julen | the python version is a lot of work, but it will be worth it at some point | 11:09 |
| julen | and dguitarbite: suggested to wait until the summit to continue with the PXE functionality, but I think I am already pretty close | 11:10 |
| rluethi | julen: If you have a PoC, that's always useful information to have. | 11:10 |
| julen | one question... the ssh connections are made by forwarding 127:0.0.1:2230 (or another port) into the ssh of the VM | 11:11 |
| * rluethi is trying to catch up reading the log | 11:12 | |
| julen | but where is that port forwarding defined? I still could not find it | 11:12 |
| dguitarbite | julen: For VirtualBox is done on the network interface from the host side | 11:12 |
| rluethi | julen: port forwarding is defined in config/config.controller | 11:12 |
| dguitarbite | There is a way to forward ports for NAT'ed connections | 11:12 |
| rluethi | just grep for 2230 :) | 11:12 |
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| rluethi | of course, that's only on VirtualBox. No port forwarding on KVM. | 11:13 |
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| dguitarbite | Yes | 11:15 |
| dguitarbite | For KVM there is another way | 11:15 |
| dguitarbite | But lets spare the low level details as of now. | 11:15 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Sup? Anything interesting to report? | 11:15 |
| julen | not much more from my side | 11:17 |
| julen | rluethi: how is it going with Mitaka? | 11:17 |
| rluethi | just wanted to point out that I see PXE boot (and the VM it requires) as an option that could be useful for baremetal and that ideally we can test with VMs, too (on somewhat beefier machines) | 11:17 |
| julen | exactly! :) | 11:18 |
| rluethi | but it won't be used by default | 11:19 |
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| rluethi | regarding mitaka: | 11:19 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: You have summarized my exact point :) | 11:19 |
| rluethi | I've been able to sort of make it work again by using mitaka instead of mitaka-proposed. For now. | 11:19 |
| rluethi | Unfortunately, I've been to busy to clean it up and submit it. I will try to do it asap. | 11:20 |
| rluethi | I am more worried about the zip file situation. | 11:21 |
| rluethi | I don't think we have a working plan to fix that. | 11:21 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Yes, gzip cannot create zip files | 11:23 |
| dguitarbite | But do we need zip files? | 11:23 |
| rluethi | we need something people can open on windows. | 11:23 |
| dguitarbite | And for Mitaka, it makes sense to push the patch so we all can work on it. And also wait for a week or so after the release to stabilize it and merge it. | 11:23 |
| dguitarbite | I think tar balls are supported on windows these days | 11:23 |
| dguitarbite | Win Rar can open them | 11:23 |
| dguitarbite | So do we need zip file extension? Because I can see a long discussion on infra | 11:24 |
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| dguitarbite | for them to install zip pacakge | 11:24 |
| dguitarbite | So we need to make a decision here :) | 11:24 |
| rluethi | tar is not supported on windows, but windows users can install additional software to unpack tar balls. | 11:25 |
| rluethi | but that's exactly the kind of dependency we have worked so hard to avoid. | 11:25 |
| rluethi | zip is supported out of the box, you don't need winzip like you used to in the old days. | 11:26 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Ok, I will push for this then. | 11:27 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: yes, please. thank you. | 11:27 |
| dguitarbite | I want to finish the zip and website for training-labs before the release preferably before the summit. Ill work hard on it :) | 11:27 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: My apologizes for delays I have not had enough time lately. But I will be free this weekend and next week :) | 11:28 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Even for you :) Feel free to ping me. | 11:28 |
| dguitarbite | The time is up and I am hungry, shall we continue on docs or emails? | 11:28 |
| julen | hehe.. I will :) | 11:28 |
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| rluethi | okay, ttyl. | 11:29 |
| dguitarbite | see you guys. Thanks for coming :) | 11:29 |
| dguitarbite | #endmeeting | 11:29 |
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| rluethi | bye | 11:29 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 11:29:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-03-23-10.31.html | 11:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-03-23-10.31.txt | 11:29 |
| julen | bye | 11:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-03-23-10.31.log.html | 11:29 |
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| joehuang | hi | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | #startmeeting | 13:01 |
| openstack | joehuang: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 13:01 |
| zhiyuan_ | hi all | 13:01 |
| Yipei | hi, all | 13:01 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 13:01:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:02 |
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| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:02 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:02 |
| zhiyuan_ | #info zhiyuan | 13:03 |
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| Huiji | #Huiji | 13:03 |
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| Huiji | #info Huiji | 13:03 |
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| joehuang | #topic mitaka release | 13:04 |
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| ztang | hello | 13:04 |
| joehuang | hi zyang | 13:04 |
| joehuang | ztang | 13:04 |
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| ztang | hi joe | 13:04 |
| joehuang | for mitaka release is approching for openstack | 13:05 |
| joehuang | we need to release tricircle too, so that for mitaka we have a preview release to run | 13:05 |
| joehuang | this is not production ready release, but would rather call it preview release | 13:06 |
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| joehuang | only very basic functions developed during the mitaka cycle | 13:06 |
| joehuang | let's look at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleToDo | 13:06 |
| joehuang | and check to see if some new basic features need to be included in the mitaka | 13:07 |
| joehuang | #info preview release aligned with openstack mitaka | 13:09 |
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| Huiji | hi,Joe, in the command of tricircle, there is some waring. such as the VM crearting and so on. i think we can reduce this kinds of waring | 13:12 |
| joehuang | Do you mean the microversion support or something else | 13:13 |
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| Huiji | yes | 13:13 |
| joehuang | ok, add one todo item in the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleToDo | 13:14 |
| Huiji | and i try to modification the microversion and it was not work | 13:14 |
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| joehuang | #action add todo item for support microversion | 13:15 |
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| joehuang | Let's also prioritize and pickup the items to work in next release - Newton release | 13:16 |
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| joehuang | Hi, Yipei, how about your environment setup? | 13:19 |
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| Yipei | still have some problems, but i think i need to learn to solve them myself | 13:20 |
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| zhiyuan_ | joe: so not all items in phrase4 will be finished in Newton circle? | 13:20 |
| joehuang | And which topic you would like to work in Newton release | 13:20 |
| joehuang | we need to prioritize them, maybe more or less, depends on how much we can do | 13:21 |
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| zhiyuan_ | i think cross-pod l2 networking should have high priority | 13:23 |
| Huiji | hi, Joe. The area RegionOne and Pod1 were set in the same PM and should they separated? | 13:24 |
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| zhiyuan_ | and also update, delete operations on network, subnet, etc which we only support creating currently | 13:24 |
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| zhiyuan_ | only when we support full operation on resource can we start to involve tempest test | 13:24 |
| _lxq_ | Hi, Joe, I am a student. I focus on reading the source code of openstack recently. I am thinking that whether it is a good way for developing the tricircle project or not. In other words, would it be enough for me to read the documents of the openstack learning to use openstack API and be familiar with the architecture of the openstack? | 13:26 |
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| joehuang | agree cross pod L2 networking will be high priority | 13:27 |
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| ztang | @Joe, _lxq_ is a member of our team. | 13:27 |
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| joehuang | to Huiji, it's ok in same physical server, we usually install them by devstak in same VM | 13:28 |
| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, part of CRUD operation missing for some objects | 13:29 |
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| joehuang | welcom lxq | 13:29 |
| zhiyuan_ | joe: yes, resource in Neutron and server in Nova | 13:29 |
| joehuang | you can follow the google doc and this launchpad to study the tricircle | 13:29 |
| Huiji | i mean in the production environment, should they separated or the area Pod1 must adhere to the area Region One | 13:30 |
| joehuang | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tricircle/+spec/implement-stateless | 13:30 |
| zhiyuan_ | _lxq_: directly dig into the source code may be a bit hard to understand OpenStack, maybe you can read some blogs and understand the architecture of OpenStack first | 13:30 |
| joehuang | in production, it'll be seperated | 13:30 |
| Huiji | ok i get it | 13:31 |
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| _lxq_ | thanks. i have read the tricircle source code mostly | 13:31 |
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| Yipei | @joe, i am interested in cross neutron l2 networking. but i think i am incapable of developing all by myself. maybe i can assist somebody or chose another less complicated item | 13:31 |
| joehuang | great, it's also helpful to read openstack arhitecture and be family with api and features | 13:32 |
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| joehuang | I remember that Yipei is also interested in pod scheduling, currently no one working on it | 13:33 |
| _lxq_ | ok.thanks joe and zhiyuan_ | 13:33 |
| joehuang | for L2 networking, Xiaojie is also interested in that | 13:33 |
| _lxq_ | Another problem, the current version of the source code is what we download from the github. How to get the newest version in time? | 13:33 |
| Yipei | ok, i will take pod sceduling, multiple pod binddings per AZ | 13:33 |
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| zhiyuan_ | _lxq_: do a "git pull" in your repos folder to sync the newest code | 13:34 |
| joehuang | using devstack you can also get the latest version | 13:34 |
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| joehuang | ztang, have you succeeded in tricircle installation for two pods? | 13:36 |
| _lxq_ | thanks. | 13:36 |
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| joehuang | hi, Khayam | 13:37 |
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| Khayam | hi | 13:37 |
| ztang | just one pod now. Some preparatory work we still have to do. But we hope we can start quickly. | 13:37 |
| Khayam | didn't got much time to work on tests for exception. currently working on it. | 13:38 |
| joehuang | to ztang, good, you can refer to pengfei's blog to install two pods environment http://shipengfei92.cn/play_tricircle_with_virtualbox | 13:39 |
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| joehuang | to Khayam, thanks a lot, if you have any question, feel free to talk in @openstack-tricircle or mail-list | 13:39 |
| ztang | thanks very much! This is our required | 13:40 |
| joehuang | sorry, #openstack-tricircle | 13:40 |
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| joehuang | ok | 13:40 |
| Khayam | sure | 13:40 |
| joehuang | to Khayam, I'll be in Austin next month, would it possible to meet you there? | 13:41 |
| ztang | And we are intalling in some physical node, not VM. | 13:41 |
| joehuang | for the summit | 13:41 |
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| joehuang | it'll be easier in VM, especially for multiple pods networking | 13:41 |
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| Huiji | to joe , thank u so much and we run the devstack in the the real physical environment and the updates of software is a headache questions to us | 13:42 |
| joehuang | o, that's a big issue. Is there any other way for fast and easy connection | 13:43 |
| Khayam | Sorry no. my visa duration is ending. need to go back to Pakiatan. Hopefully be back in August | 13:43 |
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| joehuang | A little pitty | 13:44 |
| Huiji | we now try to use the vpn to over the wall | 13:44 |
| Khayam | yeah. no other reason to miss austin summit :( | 13:44 |
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| joehuang | ok, it's time to end our meeting, I have to leave now | 13:44 |
| Huiji | and the speed is not optimistic | 13:44 |
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| joehuang | please keep contact in #openstack-tricircle | 13:45 |
| ztang | OK, see you | 13:45 |
| zhiyuan_ | see you | 13:45 |
| joehuang | and think over prioritization of todo list items | 13:45 |
| Khayam | ok bye | 13:45 |
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| joehuang | bye | 13:45 |
| Yipei | bye | 13:45 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 13:45:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-23-13.01.html | 13:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-23-13.01.txt | 13:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-23-13.01.log.html | 13:45 |
| Huiji | bye | 13:45 |
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| Zara | anyone around for the illustrious storyboard meeting??? ? ?? ????? | 15:00 |
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| Zara | I have completely forgotten to update the agenda this week | 15:00 |
| SotK_ | hello | 15:00 |
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| Zara | HELLO SOTK | 15:00 |
| * persia pliés | 15:00 | |
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| Zara | (I had to retype that because I'd given you an underscore) | 15:00 |
| Zara | ah, a ballet-dancing persia arrives! | 15:00 |
| Zara | wonderful | 15:00 |
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| Zara | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 15:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:01 |
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| Zara | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard | 15:01 |
| Zara | so that's the agenda, I have not updated it, sorry | 15:01 |
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| Zara | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
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| Zara | WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT | 15:02 |
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| Zara | At long last.... | 15:02 |
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| Zara | storyboard.openstack.org | 15:02 |
| Zara | SENDS EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS | 15:02 |
| Zara | #info storyboard.openstack.org sends email notifications, real ones, really | 15:02 |
| Zara | thanks, everyone! | 15:02 |
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| Zara | for all your hard work making this possible. :) | 15:03 |
| SotK | \o/ | 15:03 |
| Zara | To try them out, go to 'profile' on the sidebar, and then on the bottom left of the screen, there should be a checkbox to turn them on and off | 15:04 |
| Zara | you will have to scroll down a little | 15:04 |
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| Zara | they're very basic, but please feel free to give us feedback in #storyboard, or on a story, so we can improve them. | 15:04 |
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| Zara | atm it's just an on-off switch, for all notifications for all subscribed resources, or none. | 15:05 |
| Zara | but yup, storyboard.openstack.org now has working email notifications, yayyyy! | 15:05 |
| Zara | moving on... | 15:05 |
| Zara | oh actually | 15:05 |
| Zara | other announcement: SotK's on holiday for a couple of weeks | 15:06 |
| Zara | I will be very lonely; please say hello to me. | 15:06 |
| Zara | and don't expect immediate responses from him :P | 15:06 |
| Zara | actually moving on... | 15:07 |
| Zara | #topic Urgent Items | 15:07 |
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| Zara | Nothing super-urgent that I can think of | 15:07 |
| Zara | anyone? | 15:07 |
| SotK | nothing I can think of | 15:07 |
| Zara | okay, moving on again! | 15:08 |
| Zara | #topic In-progress work | 15:08 |
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| Zara | The agenda lists worklists and boards | 15:08 |
| Zara | guess that's accurate! | 15:08 |
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| Zara | how's it going? | 15:08 |
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| SotK | I've sent patches for automatic worklists! | 15:08 |
| SotK | I still need to make a UI to allow easily making worklists in boards automatic | 15:09 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:09 |
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| SotK | (you can do that at the moment by looking at the appropriate worklist page and setting filters there, but that is a faff | 15:09 |
| SotK | ) | 15:10 |
| Zara | I've been wondering about moving toward seeing a board as just 1+ worklists, and combining things more than they are at present. (they kinda work like that already in some respects, but they're separate in others) | 15:10 |
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| Zara | or maybe that's clearer as: a worklist being a board with just one lane | 15:11 |
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| SotK | the problem is the fact that the data model returned by the API is somewhat different, so setting up the template would be "interesting" | 15:12 |
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| Zara | yeah | 15:12 |
| Zara | I guess it's whether it's outweighed by how much work will be done keeping the two in step | 15:12 |
| Zara | because we'll have a lot of duplication without that, but that's not so terrible if the alternative is a massive headache. | 15:13 |
| SotK | yeah, I want to look at ways to reduce the duplication sooner rather than later | 15:13 |
| Zara | cool | 15:13 |
| Zara | (similarly, I feel like we have updateTask() in a bunch of places, and are considering more; I'd like to move it somewhere more general, not sure where/how yet) | 15:14 |
| Zara | anyway, a bit tangential, just something I was thinking about in the course of reviewing | 15:14 |
| Zara | #info There are patches in review for automatic worklists; SotK is working on the UI for automatic worklists in boards | 15:15 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295452 | 15:15 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295453/ | 15:16 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295454/ | 15:16 |
| Zara | such a lovely collection of urls | 15:16 |
| Zara | meanwhile, me... | 15:17 |
| Zara | I've been mostly reviewing this week, although I did a bunch of work on task notes, I *think* between the last meeting and this one | 15:17 |
| Zara | I never can remember exactly when | 15:17 |
| Zara | Small fixes: you can add notes to a task from the board view, and you can read task notes without being logged in | 15:17 |
| Zara | oh! I've also been working on improving the dashboard a bit | 15:18 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292509/ | 15:18 |
| Zara | that makes the list of 'tasks assigned to me' a bit more relevant | 15:18 |
| Zara | it currently just lists all stories containing a task that was assigned to you | 15:19 |
| Zara | even if your task was marked merged | 15:19 |
| Zara | (and possibly invalid, actually) | 15:19 |
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| SotK | ooh, I'll take a look at that after the meeting | 15:19 |
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| Zara | so it gets not-very useful fast if you just handle, say, ui changes on a bigger story that spans multiple projects | 15:19 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:19 |
| Zara | yeah, I'd like to group tasks by story, with the story name listed; I didn't know how. | 15:20 |
| Zara | there might be overlap with the method used to search for tasks in stories for worklists | 15:20 |
| Zara | *potential overlap | 15:20 |
| Zara | and that might also overlap with plans to have a 'add task to existing story' button on a worklist/lane | 15:21 |
| SotK | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149127/ did something similar for the recent events list iirc, might be helpful | 15:21 |
| Zara | (so might be worth batching it.) | 15:22 |
| Zara | ooh, thanks | 15:22 |
| Zara | never seen that before; will take a look :) | 15:22 |
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| SotK | the tasks in stories thing just searches for all tasks with the story_id matching the story you clicked "show tasks" on | 15:22 |
| Zara | oh, so it browses for the story first | 15:22 |
| Zara | yeah, this is weird because it probably needs to browse by task | 15:23 |
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| Zara | maybe you can do it with a more complex filter for browse by story... | 15:23 |
| Zara | Idk how else you'd get the story title, really :/ | 15:23 |
| Zara | anyway, thanks for taking a look! :D | 15:24 |
| SotK | you could probably do some client-side processing to group things by story_id, then do the relevant GETs for each story | 15:25 |
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| Zara | that seems like it could get very GET-y | 15:25 |
| SotK | perhaps, I guess it depends how many unmerged tasks people are likely to be assigned to | 15:26 |
| Zara | #info Task notes can now be added/viewed from boards, and can be viewed when logged out | 15:26 |
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| Zara | yeah, I'm not sure | 15:27 |
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| Zara | I have 9 on s.o.o but then that's 'assigned stories' and many aren't relevant really, so | 15:27 |
| Zara | I wouldn't want to assume about anyone else | 15:27 |
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| Zara | anything else in progress? | 15:28 |
| Zara | I am reviewing mostly, with the odd misc ui patch | 15:28 |
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| Zara | oh, apparently I have another one | 15:28 |
| Zara | I forgot about | 15:28 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294221/ | 15:29 |
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| * SotK will look at that too | 15:29 | |
| Zara | moves the 'add task' button to a more intuitive place and makes it stand out a bit more | 15:29 |
| SotK | I've never struggled with the add task button, but I guess it is a bit obscure | 15:29 |
| Zara | it was mentioned in a story that for some reason I didn't mention in the commit message | 15:29 |
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| Zara | hang on | 15:29 |
| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000515 | 15:30 |
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| Zara | that also confirms my suspicion that task notes should be available when creating a story | 15:30 |
| Zara | else people try to use task titles for notes, which is fiddly. | 15:31 |
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| Zara | my old '(re)move search icon' and 'all boards and worklists' pages are also up there | 15:32 |
| Zara | probably faster to search patches with me as the owner! | 15:32 |
| Zara | I'm gonna move on | 15:32 |
| Zara | #topic Discussion | 15:33 |
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| Zara | agenda's out of date again, sorry | 15:33 |
| Zara | I haven't seen any updates to the dev instance story | 15:34 |
| Zara | or any comments on the infra etherpad re: task tracking session | 15:34 |
| Zara | let's move to open discussion! | 15:35 |
| Zara | #topic open discussion | 15:35 |
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| Zara | discuss away! | 15:35 |
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| Zara | you have 25 minutes | 15:35 |
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| persia | A number of folk consider it to be a social error to be assigned a large number of tasks not yet in review, but that may not reduce the number unmerged for very code-prodyctive folk. | 15:37 |
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| Zara | yeah, for me it generally depends on if anyone else is likely to do the work. sometimes you know that it won't be done until you tackle it in 3 weeks, other times there's a chance someone will step in. | 15:39 |
| Zara | so for the first case, it can make it a bit easier to batch similar work. | 15:39 |
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| Zara | anyone have anything to discuss? | 15:41 |
| Zara | I don't want to forget to end the meeting this week | 15:42 |
| SotK | I don't think I do | 15:42 |
| Zara | I did want to ask generally, what's it useful for me to be doing over the next couple of weeks | 15:42 |
| Zara | bearing in mind it won't be easy to get my patches merged | 15:42 |
| Zara | for SotK will be enjoying sun and sand or probably rain | 15:42 |
| SotK | hopefully sun and snow | 15:43 |
| Zara | :) | 15:43 |
| * SotK would like to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264193/ if you're bored :D | 15:43 | |
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| Zara | wah wah wha | 15:44 |
| Zara | but it's such a boring patch I already hate it | 15:44 |
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| Zara | :) | 15:44 |
| SotK | sorry :) | 15:44 |
| Zara | the only people who can merge anything of mine for the webclient in the next coupla weeks | 15:45 |
| Zara | will be infra cores | 15:45 |
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| Zara | so I may have to shuffle up to some doorsteps | 15:45 |
| Zara | at first I wanted to do a little research project into realtime updating stuff | 15:46 |
| Zara | but that requires testing with another person on the network | 15:47 |
| Zara | SO. | 15:47 |
| Zara | I'll look at that old patch, not sure it's two weeks of work, mind | 15:47 |
| SotK | ooh, realtime updates would be wonderfully cool | 15:47 |
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| Zara | I got very distracted by reading around socket.io | 15:48 |
| Zara | I confess | 15:48 |
| Zara | so if I'm in a position where I finish up on small tweaks and can't get stuff merged, I can at least research. maybe. | 15:48 |
| Zara | there are some bugfixes I can look at; in general should be easier to persuade people to merge those than new features. | 15:49 |
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| Zara | any more for any more | 15:54 |
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| Zara | I'm gonna end this meeting before I forget, then | 15:56 |
| Zara | thanks, all | 15:56 |
| Zara | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 15:56:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-23-15.01.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-23-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-23-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| * DuncanT waves | 16:00 | |
| smcginnis | Courtesy ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard vincent_hou kmartin patrickeast sheel dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu | 16:00 |
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| Swanson | Hello | 16:00 |
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| geguileo | Hi! | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| jseiler | hi | 16:00 |
| fernnest | hello | 16:00 |
| baumann | Hello! | 16:00 |
| sheel | hello all | 16:00 |
| mtanino | hi | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 16:00 |
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| hemna | hi | 16:00 |
| patrickeast | Hey | 16:00 |
| jgriffith | hey | 16:00 |
| dulek | Hi | 16:00 |
| Yogi1 | Hello | 16:00 |
| scottda | hhi | 16:00 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| adrianofr_ | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | What up! | 16:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | We're getting really close to the end of the Mitaka cycle. | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | We have a few changes queued and some translations imported. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | I plan on cutting the (final?) RC-2 release tomorrow. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Unless something major comes up, that should be what goes out an April 8th. | 16:02 |
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| tbarron | hi | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | It will be such a sweet release! | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: we'll want to wait on the delete thing I talked about this morning | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | ie wait to cut RC2 | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: OK, will watch for that. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Notice to everyone that I will be on vacation starting this Friday through next week. | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | I'll have my laptop with me, so I will still be able to do the release. | 16:03 |
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| Swanson | Good timing. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | But I won't be around as much. | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: Ummm... that's weird... "YOU" are taking a vacation! | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | I didn't think you did that sort of thing! | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: About as good as it could. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:04 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | We'll see how much I actually do. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | Hopefully I resist the temptation to get out the laptop. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: we'll just kick-ban you from IRC and disable your gerritt account | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | :D | 16:04 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:05 |
| dulek | jgriffith: What about Launchpad? No more bug targetting! | 16:05 |
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| jgriffith | dulek: removing him now :) | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | Looking forward, we need to start thinking about N. | 16:05 |
| dulek | jgriffith: He said Friday… ;) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | I added a new etherpad for spec tracking. | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | dulek: maybe we should just steal his laptop | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Hoping to use this to start shaping up things for the summit. | 16:05 |
| diablo_rojo | jgriffith: I can handle that ;) | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I have multiple! :P | 16:06 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: what about removin xml api? :) it's only -6500 LoC | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Spec tracking. | 16:06 |
| sheel | smcginnis: we have multiple guys | 16:06 |
| * jungleboyj pictures diablo_rojo wresting with smcginnis over a laptop. :-) | 16:06 | |
| smcginnis | e0ne: +1 | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Will be nice to get that all cleaned up. | 16:06 |
| e0ne | I've rebased my patch today | 16:06 |
| vincent_hou | e0ne: why to remove it? | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Not much in that etherpad link yet, but we can start working on that. | 16:07 |
| e0ne | vincent_hou: we didn't test it | 16:07 |
| e0ne | vincent_hou: does it work? | 16:07 |
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| vincent_hou | I remember some of my colleagues used t spend a lot of time testing and getting them it. | 16:07 |
| e0ne | vincent_hou: btw, nova and neuton removed xml api few releases ago | 16:07 |
| sheel | smcginnis: only Spec-less blueprints? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | If folks could start reviewing the specs out there and commenting, it would be nice to have some of that in good condition for the summit. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Or merged already. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | sheel: And specs. | 16:08 |
| sheel | smcginnis: oks | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: I just wanted a placeholder for the few blueprints that come across that need a little discussion but aren't big enough to need a spec. | 16:08 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: ok, sounds good | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | #topic Any more urgent backport fixes for the release | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | On that note... | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: I think you added this. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT created an etherpad for tracking. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Hasn't been much there so far. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mataka-rc-backports-needed | 16:09 |
| DuncanT | I did add it, mostly as a heads up | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | If there is something you think needs to make it in M yet, please add it there. | 16:10 |
| diablo_rojo | DuncanT: -1 for spelling ;) | 16:10 |
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| smcginnis | ;) | 16:10 |
| vincent_hou | I am working on two patches, I guess need the backport. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | vincent_hou: Which ones? | 16:10 |
| vincent_hou | They are ready for review. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | vincent_hou: Links? | 16:10 |
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| vincent_hou | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292570/ | 16:11 |
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| vincent_hou | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292608/ | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Keep in mind, we are in hard string freeze so we should try to limit backports that have public facing strings. | 16:11 |
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| jungleboyj | vincent_hou: I think those can be backported to our driver after the release. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Don't need to hold up for those. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Agree? | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | vincent_hou: I'll take a look, but I think those may need to wait. | 16:12 |
| vincent_hou | ok | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Really only critical core fixes at this point unless they are really small, self-contained changes. | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Some operations pass even if volume service is disabled | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: I think we can talk about this now. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1555938 | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1555938 in Cinder "Create snapshot, create volume from snapshot or clone a volume still can succeed even the cinder-volume service is disabled" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to aditi sharma (adi-sky17) | 16:14 |
| sheel | smcginnis: ohk, but i wanted to have some specific persons in it for discussino | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: ahh... interesting | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | sheel: OK, no problem. We can defer if you would prefer. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Yeah | 16:14 |
| sheel | smcginnis: ok actually this was about how we should go with calls which works ok even if volume service is disabled | 16:14 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: sheel so it's pretty straight-forward,,, did you have questions about fixing it? | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | I found it very surprising the number of tempest tests pass when my driver didn't even get loaded. | 16:15 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: ummm... ok, that's frightening | 16:15 |
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| sheel | jgriffith: yep, there could be other calls which do not pass through scheduler like backup operations | 16:16 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: it could be related to other drivers too | 16:16 |
| hemna | that's not good at all | 16:16 |
| hemna | wtf | 16:16 |
| e0ne | hemna: +1 | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | sheel: so we talked briefly in Tokyo (and Vancouver) about this | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | sheel: we should probably route everything through the scheduler as a gate-keeper | 16:16 |
| sheel | jgriffith: sorry, I was not part of that, may be i have to search through youtube | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | sheel: nahh... you didn't miss much :) | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: +1 | 16:17 |
| sheel | jgriffith: what about backup operations? | 16:17 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: +1 | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | sheel: backups IMO made their bed | 16:17 |
| dulek | I'm a little opposed to that. snapshot creation cannot really succeed if scheduled anywhere else than where source is placed. | 16:17 |
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| dulek | Backups are different story - now we have them decoupled. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | dulek: It would just need to route it to the right place. | 16:18 |
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| DuncanT | Backups can go through the scheduler easily now | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | dulek: yeah... but that's not the idea | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | dulek: so for those calls it would always be sent to the same backend still | 16:18 |
| dulek | smcginnis: But we know the right place in the API - volume.host. And we can inform user fast if something's wrong with that host. | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | dulek: the suggestion was route through the scheduler though instead of bypassing | 16:18 |
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| jgriffith | DuncanT: ok, "they "can" " but they don't | 16:19 |
| geguileo | But we would still be routing them even if the service is disabled to keep backward compatibility, right? | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | geguileo: was that a joke? | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | geguileo: or are you being serious? | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | dulek: I agree, it is adding an extra hop in the flow. But it would make things consistent. | 16:19 |
| dulek | geguileo: Well, disable is an admin thing. I don't think we need to care here. | 16:19 |
| sheel | jgriffith: DuncanT: no issues, we can make them pass through scheduler | 16:19 |
| hemna | if we route everything through the scheduler, then we can dynamically update the backend status via get_volume_stats. if the backend is unreachable by the driver, then the scheduler can stop the call getting to the manager before making the rpc | 16:19 |
| dulek | smcginnis: I agree here. | 16:19 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: Well, surprisingly enough I was being serious XD | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:19 |
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| jungleboyj | It shouldn't be that big a change. Right? | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | I wouldn't think so. | 16:20 |
| sheel | smcginnis: +1 | 16:20 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: not big change | 16:20 |
| dulek | jungleboyj: It requires some compatibility code I think, but is certainly possible. | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | geguileo: I thought so.... I have a hard time subscribing to the "maintain a bug for backward compatability" approach | 16:20 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: I don't mean those operations | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | dulek: smcginnis sheel so an easier fix.... | 16:20 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: That the bug is referring to (creation stuff) | 16:20 |
| sheel | jgriffith: some guys from my team have already started for it... | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | dulek: smcginnis sheel put a check in cinder.volume.api | 16:21 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: But all other operations that currently are not affected by disabled and are not creation related | 16:21 |
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| geguileo | jgriffith: Attach/detach for example | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | geguileo: ok... your call. Personally I think that if you "disable" a service it should be "disabled" | 16:21 |
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| jgriffith | geguileo: not "do some things" but not others | 16:21 |
| dulek | jgriffith: Use case for disabling is host maintenance. | 16:22 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: I agree, but then it's not backward compatible | 16:22 |
| hemna | microversion.... | 16:22 |
| dulek | jgriffith: I want my users to be able to access their volumes, but not to create new ones here, so I can migrate everything out from there. | 16:22 |
| * jungleboyj laughs | 16:22 | |
| smcginnis | hemna: That fixes everything. :) | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:22 |
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| dulek | hemna: Nooo. :P | 16:22 |
| hemna | s/microversion/nightmareversion | 16:22 |
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| eharney | i'm not sure this is something that needs to be 100% backward compatible | 16:22 |
| DuncanT | Maybe we need two different disable type operations? Drain and disable, or similar? | 16:22 |
| dulek | eharney: +1 | 16:23 |
| diablo_rojo | hemna: +1 | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | "maintenance mode" | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | macrovision! | 16:23 |
| DuncanT | I can see why you'd want a drain type operation | 16:23 |
| tbarron | eharney: +1 | 16:23 |
| sheel | DuncanT: what about disabling queue when service is disabled | 16:23 |
| sheel | ? | 16:23 |
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| dulek | sheel: Then admin cannot use disabling to do host maintenance. | 16:24 |
| DuncanT | sheel: As I said, there's a desire here for more than one type of 'disabled' | 16:24 |
| sheel | dulek: DuncanT : ok | 16:24 |
| geguileo | DuncanT: +1 | 16:24 |
| * dulek thinks that disable suffers from poor naming… | 16:24 | |
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| jungleboyj | Diabled and Dead. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | *disabled | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | 'disabled' and 'really-disabled' | 16:25 |
| dulek | DuncanT: What use case you have for "drain" type of disabled? | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | haha... let's make things as complicated as we can | 16:25 |
| hemna | zombie | 16:25 |
| DuncanT | "A bit disabled"... "walking with a limp".... | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: No doubt! | 16:25 |
| sheel | haha | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: LOL | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo | DuncanT: :) | 16:25 |
| hemna | The Walking Dead | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | OK, so maybe we need to work on the naming. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | But I think DuncanT is right. There are a couple different use cases we need to think about here. | 16:26 |
| Swanson | Cake and Pie? | 16:26 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: Wanting the current type of 'disabled' in production makes total sense though - not for reasons of complication but because it's useful | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: Yes! | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | I think you guys are making this way more complex than is useful | 16:26 |
| DuncanT | 'disabled' 'food coma' | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | shit's on or off | 16:26 |
| bswartz | condemned? | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: You're too practical. :) | 16:26 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: In practice, no, it really isn't | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | if you want to introduce a "don't accept new resource creates" that's cool | 16:27 |
| sheel | disabled ,'work from home' | 16:27 |
| dulek | jgriffith: It's supposed to solve a different use case. | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: ok | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | I'll step aside, have at it | 16:27 |
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| DuncanT | jgriffith: The point is, we have that now, we just call it 'disabled'... renaming it to 'frozen' or something makes good sense | 16:27 |
| dulek | jgriffith: That's what it's supposed to do - do not accept new creates, for me to be able to move workload somewhere else and update the kernel. | 16:27 |
| dulek | That's it. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: In all seriousness, we do need to keep this simple. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Frozen actually makes sense given what we were doing with replication. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | But I think this highlights a misnaming or at least a need for a different type of operation. | 16:28 |
| scottda | Seems we could benefit from listing the use cases. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | scottda: +1 | 16:28 |
| DuncanT | jungleboyj: Yup, except that stops new snapshots too. Sigh. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Thought maybe now it is confusing since we have already used that concept. But isn't it really the same thing? | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | I think that should probably be the next step. | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: and that was my point earlier :) | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | What do we actually need to support from a user perspective. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | And where do we fall flat with that with how things are now. | 16:29 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, isn't it the same thing? | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | FWIW freeze isn't replication specific | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | you can use that today | 16:29 |
| dulek | Question on openstack-operators? | 16:29 |
| Swanson | jgriffith, That's what I thought. | 16:29 |
| scottda | And which use case(s) should go in the first iteration, which can be done separately. | 16:29 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hmmm | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Swanson Just wanted to make sure. | 16:29 |
| vincent_hou | what we can still do and what we can't do in this "disabled mode" have not been agreed. I think we can work on this first by listing the use cases we like to support or not. | 16:29 |
| sheel | scottda: right question.. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | vincent_hou: That is probably the best first step. | 16:30 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: DuncanT https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/api.py#L1625 | 16:30 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Cool. | 16:31 |
| sheel | jgriffith: yes, we have added this in v2 for services | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | sheel: we? | 16:31 |
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| sheel | jgriffith: s/we/someone | 16:31 |
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| jgriffith | sheel: haha... jgriffith added them | 16:32 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: The sematics of that don't quite match though, since it will also disable clone / snap. Need a bit more thought I think, and writing up the usecase / point will probably help reduce the circling we're doing here | 16:32 |
| sheel | jgriffith: some community member | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | https://github.com/openstack/python-cinderclient/blob/master/cinderclient/v2/services.py#L66 | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: That is the right conceptual action I think. | 16:32 |
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| sheel | jgriffith: oh great | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | sheel: So, add the ability to set a backend frozen and we decide what actions are allowed for such a state? | 16:32 |
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| jgriffith | I give up | 16:32 |
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| jgriffith | *again* | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Don't give up. :-) | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | I do think we need to first identify the user needs here and make sure we are mathing the functionality, and naming, to what the end userr would expect and need. | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: that's arleady decided :) | 16:33 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: i can voumteer it..with some help from jgriffith | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: you can't create a *new* anything | 16:33 |
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| jgriffith | you can use what's there, but you can't modify or create, or add or paint blue | 16:33 |
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| jgriffith | it's "frozen" | 16:33 |
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| jgriffith | that's the whole point | 16:33 |
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| sheel | exactly... | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Ok, that makes sense to me. | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | or did I need to call it "apple-pied" to avoid the usual ridiculous argument over naming/semantices | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | semantics | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | All new features need a food-based code name for now on. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo | a la mode? | 16:34 |
| * jungleboyj has images from American Pie going through my head. | 16:34 | |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: :) Until someone has a food-allergy | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:34 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, because band camp? | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | what? | 16:35 |
| sheel | American Pie... haha | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | No peanut butter. | 16:35 |
| * jungleboyj would like propose Monte Cristo | 16:35 | |
| jgriffith | Ohhhh.... you guys are terrible! | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Gets it. | 16:35 |
| diablo_rojo | jgriffith: a little late to the party? ;) | 16:35 |
| dulek | upgrade cinnamon rolls? :D | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | OK, I think this is going down hill. | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Thanks for looking at that. | 16:35 |
| scottda | And we never start very high on the hill | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Shh | 16:35 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: :) | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo | scottda: Ham sammich? | 16:36 |
| sheel | smcginnis: wat's next.. | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: If you can start capturing use cases, maybe in an etherpad. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Definitely pull in input from other folks. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Then we can discuss what we have there. | 16:36 |
| sheel | smcginnis: sure... | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | I don't mean to add a bunch of overhead to this. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | But I think we need to be clear about what we are fixing | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | And how. | 16:37 |
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| diablo_rojo | smcginnis: That sounds like a good plan. | 16:37 |
| scottda | smcginnis: ++ Writing things down is a good thing. | 16:37 |
| sheel | smcginnis: right... pakka | 16:37 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Thank you for bringing this up. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Anything else for now. | 16:38 |
| sheel | smcginnis: oh no problem, thanks for discussing | 16:38 |
| sheel | smcginnis: no i am done | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Great | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | One annoucnement I forgot. | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | Besides spelling... | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Voting is open. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Vote early and often. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Really glad we actually have an election. | 16:39 |
| e0ne | just a reminder | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | I think I said it last time - it's a great thing for a project =, IMO. | 16:39 |
| e0ne | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cinder-summit-ideas | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Oh yes, thanks! | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | indeed, thanks to both e0ne and smcginnis for stepping up | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: ++ | 16:39 |
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| sheel | 👍 | 16:39 |
| diablo_rojo | jgriffith: +! | 16:40 |
| dulek | Okay, business is business - how many beers each candidate offers? | 16:40 |
| diablo_rojo | +1 | 16:40 |
| dulek | ;) | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | lol | 16:40 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, jgriffith: I don't care about voting at all. looks like we're going to the same direction | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | dulek: :-) | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | Please add ideas to the summit planning etherpad! | 16:40 |
| sheel | dulek: +100 | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I agree! | 16:40 |
| e0ne | dulek: it's not for public chat question ;) | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | indeed, think we're in good hands either way | 16:40 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: thank you | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | Agreed! | 16:40 |
| scottda | For those interested in Nova-Cinder API.... | 16:41 |
| scottda | We've scheduled a meeting next Wednesday (March 30), 2100UTC on #openstack-meeting-cp | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | What's nova? | 16:41 |
| hemna | scottda, sweet | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:41 |
| scottda | Agenda will come from here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes | 16:41 |
| dulek | scottda: Hey, maybe it's worth announcing on openstack-dev? | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | #info nova-cinder meeting March 20, 2100 UTC | 16:41 |
| e0ne | scottda: great! could you please send a sorh message to openstack-dev ml? | 16:41 |
| dulek | (or maybe it was?) | 16:41 |
| scottda | jgriffith: Can you post a link to your POC code for attachment solution? | 16:41 |
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| scottda | dulek: e0ne Yes, ildikov was going to post to the ML | 16:42 |
| e0ne | scottda: this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284867/? | 16:42 |
| vincent_hou | smcginnis：nova-cinder meeting March 30, 2100 UTC？？？ | 16:42 |
| ildikov | yeap, I planned to announce if people are available | 16:43 |
| scottda | #info Nova-cinder meeting Wed March 30th 2100 UTC #openstack-meeting-cp | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | vincent_hou: ? | 16:43 |
| ildikov | scottda: | 16:43 |
| scottda | ildikov: I say, go ahead and announce and we get whomever we get as attendees | 16:43 |
| ildikov | if we say it's final, I send out a mail to the ML | 16:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Swanson: Why aren't you here at the coffee shop with smcginnis jungleboyj and I? | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Oh, /20th/30th/ | 16:44 |
| ildikov | scottda: cool, will do, I added the slot to the etherpad just now already | 16:44 |
| Swanson | diablo_rojo, smcginnis didn't tell me about it until an hour ago. | 16:44 |
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| scottda | e0ne: Yes, that's the link to the review. Thanks. | 16:44 |
| vincent_hou | smcginnis: yes | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: It was an "accident" | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:44 |
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| diablo_rojo | Swanson: I guess it's cool kids only. | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Any other topics? | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | OK. Let's free up the channel. | 16:45 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks everyone! | 16:45 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks :) | 16:45 |
| geguileo | Thanks! | 16:45 |
| sheel | thank you.. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. Most entertaining meeting ever! | 16:45 |
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| vincent_hou | thanks | 16:46 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 16:46 |
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| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 16:46:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-23-16.00.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-23-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-23-16.00.log.html | 16:46 |
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| jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 17:05:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:05 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:05 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 17:05 |
| jlvillal | Sorry about that. My boss had scheduled a meeting with me and that is what I saw in my calendar :( | 17:05 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:05 |
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| kcalman | o/ | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | As always the agenda can be found.... | 17:06 |
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| rajinir | o/ | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #topic Announcements | 17:07 |
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| jlvillal | #info Mitaka release is/has been getting tagged this week for various Ironic projects | 17:07 |
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| jlvillal | Just an FYI. Mitaka is getting shipped out the door for the most part this week. | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | Woo hoo! :) | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | Any other announcements? | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | Okay, moving on | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | #topic Grenade testing | 17:09 |
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| jlvillal | Made some progress since last time. | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Failing to get a DHCP address for the node. | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Can see dnsmasq refuse to give the DHCP address to the node because configuration seems incorrect. | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Currently trying to figure out why the config is incorrect. | 17:09 |
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| jlvillal | Also have 2nd system which doesn't finish the stable/liberty portion of the smoke test. Also trying to figure that out. | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | It appears IPA is not starting on that system. | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | #info Currently trying to troubleshoot issue with DHCP being misconfigured in dnsmasq. Looking into Neutron logs. | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | That is all I have. | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | Any questions before moving on? | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | Okay moving on | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | #topic Functional testing | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | Any updates from anyone? | 17:11 |
| jlvillal | #info No updates this week | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor) | 17:12 |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor does not appear to be online. | 17:12 |
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| jlvillal | Anyone have anything for 3rd Party CI? | 17:13 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: ? | 17:13 |
| sambetts | Yes | 17:13 |
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| jlvillal | Any updates? | 17:14 |
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| jlvillal | sambetts: I think you are most involved in 3rd Party CI, along with krtaylor | 17:14 |
| sambetts | I've got our CI passing but are running into timeout issues because of course real hardware takes longer, we've been slowly increasing them and we're looking at about an hr to turn around a result | 17:14 |
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| jlvillal | sambetts: Mind doing a #info for that? | 17:15 |
| sambetts | #info I've got our CI passing but are running into timeout issues because of course real hardware takes longer, we've been slowly increasing them and we're looking at about an hr to turn around a result | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | thanks :) | 17:15 |
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| jlvillal | moving on | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | #topic General QA / Open Discussion | 17:15 |
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| jlvillal | floor is open | 17:15 |
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| jlvillal | If anyone has anything they want to discuss | 17:15 |
| sambetts | I've monkey patched our CI to avoid the the tempest flavor config issue | 17:16 |
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| sambetts | for now | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: Remind me what that is? The "tempest flavor config issue" | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | Please :) | 17:16 |
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| sambetts | jlvillal: Once ironic moves to the devstack plugin, the ironic flavor creation happens after the tempest configuration code, which means that in the Ironic case the DEFAULT_INSTANCE_TYPE is honored | 17:17 |
| jlvillal | Ah right. I remember the patch(s) on that. | 17:17 |
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| jlvillal | sambetts: Does devstack or tempest need to be fixed to have a real solution? | 17:18 |
| sambetts | Myself and jroll had a conversation earlier and we agree that changing the order in devstack is the right way to go, its just a case of pursuading the devstack devs to allow it | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | I think I saw an Ironic patch. I wasn't sure if that fixed it. | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: Okay. Thanks | 17:19 |
| sambetts | jlvillal: I've got a patch up to do it, but its currently got a -1 on it | 17:19 |
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| sambetts | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293954/ | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | #info devstack patch will be needed to fix "tempest flavor config" issue once Ironic moves to the devstack plugin. | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | #info patch proposed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293954/ | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | Thanks sambetts :) | 17:20 |
| jlvillal | Anything else from anyone? | 17:20 |
| sambetts | I wonder if we need to get some Ironic core power behind trying to pursade the devstack guys? | 17:20 |
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| jlvillal | sambetts: Maybe. We should probably figure out if the comment in the patch is valid/invalid and respond. | 17:21 |
| * jlvillal doesn't know enough either way | 17:21 | |
| * sambetts also doesn't know the extent of the problems it might cause | 17:22 | |
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| sambetts | although the gate run was mostly successful, I couldn't tell if the failures in the run were related to the change I made or not | 17:22 |
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| jlvillal | sambetts: Okay. Thanks for the update and info. | 17:23 |
| jlvillal | Anything else? | 17:23 |
| jlvillal | from anyone? | 17:23 |
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| jlvillal | I will call it done for today. | 17:24 |
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| jlvillal | Thanks everyone! | 17:24 |
| jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 17:24:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-23-17.05.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-23-17.05.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-23-17.05.log.html | 17:24 |
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| skraynev_ | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 20:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skraynev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| skraynev_ | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
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| jdob_lt | o/ | 20:01 |
| jasond | o/ | 20:01 |
| rpothier | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ryansb | o/ | 20:01 |
| skraynev_ | shardy, zaneb, stevebaker: ping | 20:01 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 20:01 |
| ochuprykov | hi | 20:01 |
| duvarenkov_ | hi | 20:01 |
| cwolferh | o/ | 20:01 |
| zaneb | \o | 20:01 |
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| dani_castellanos | \o | 20:02 |
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| skraynev_ | #topic Adding items to agenda | 20:02 |
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| skraynev_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-03-23_2000_UTC.29 | 20:02 |
| skraynev_ | something else ? | 20:03 |
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| skraynev_ | ok . it's better for me :) | 20:04 |
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| skraynev_ | #topic RC2 review status | 20:04 |
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| skraynev_ | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/mitaka-rc2 | 20:04 |
| skraynev_ | there is a one bug which was not fixed yet in master and did not backported to stable/mitaka | 20:04 |
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| stevebaker | oh, its green now in ci | 20:05 |
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| skraynev_ | I have a talk with PTL of Translation Team and they asked to schedule rc-2 release on 28 Mar. So we have 5 more days to review it ;) | 20:06 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: yeah. I have applied last suggestion from zaneb and BOOM. it became green ;) | 20:06 |
| skraynev_ | zaneb: good suggestion - good result ;) | 20:06 |
| zaneb | I just +2'd btw | 20:07 |
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| skraynev_ | zaneb: I have seen :) thank you ;) | 20:07 |
| skraynev_ | #topic Open Discussion | 20:07 |
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| shardy_ | o/ | 20:08 |
| skraynev_ | I suppose, that we can start discuss summit related question on the next week, with new PTL :) | 20:08 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: hi. we almost done. | 20:09 |
| shardy_ | skraynev_: Hi, sorry I'm late | 20:09 |
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| skraynev_ | shardy_: np. I have seen you answer on mail about get_attr for RG. | 20:09 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: I created bug for it and prazumovsky said, that He will investigate this strange behavior | 20:10 |
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| shardy_ | skraynev_: sounds good, I was testing it recently and thought I saw those to attribute formats work the same | 20:11 |
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| shardy_ | Re mitaka, what's the status of fixing the heatclient gate? | 20:12 |
| shardy_ | I don't think we should release without a new heatclient containing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295412/ | 20:12 |
| shardy_ | resource_registry basically doesn't work for many users without it | 20:12 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: I had a guess, that it may be related with using custom template instead of some usual resource type. | 20:13 |
| shardy_ | It's just a regression caused by the multi-environment patch | 20:13 |
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| shardy_ | oh, the RG thing, sorry :) | 20:14 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: I see ,that fix for heatclient gate is still not merged. | 20:14 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: yeah first comment was about RG ;) | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | shardy_: I'll mark the bug Critical and backport to the stable branch for a 1.0.1 release | 20:14 |
| shardy_ | stevebaker: great, thanks! | 20:14 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: thx | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | whats up with heatclient ci? | 20:14 |
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| skraynev_ | according to the last comment om patch mentioned by shardy, we need fix : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294191/ | 20:15 |
| shardy_ | devstack broke it :( | 20:15 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: Andreas Jaeger suggested to recheck after 1 hour. | 20:17 |
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| skraynev_ | So I hope, that fix be merged tomorrow | 20:17 |
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| shardy_ | Yup, let's hope so - the fix has been pending for a few days now | 20:17 |
| skraynev_ | shardy_: anyway we have one more week for backporting fix for heatclient. thank, that watching for that. | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | I wonder if stable/liberty heatclient ci still works. If so we can land it there and release | 20:18 |
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| skraynev_ | stevebaker: we did not do any backports for heatclient stable/mitaka. so we may try | 20:18 |
| skraynev_ | right now ;) | 20:19 |
| stevebaker | oh, I meant stable/mitaka | 20:19 |
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| duvarenkov_ | topic is still heat ) | 20:32 |
| skraynev_ | duvarenkov_: yeah. it does not want to let me go | 20:32 |
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| skraynev_ | #endmeeting heat | 20:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 20:33:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-23-20.00.html | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-23-20.00.txt | 20:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-23-20.00.log.html | 20:33 |
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| skraynev_ | win! | 20:33 |
| skraynev_ | continues -> #heat | 20:33 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 23 21:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 21:00 |
| dmorita | o/ | 21:00 |
| awelleck | hey | 21:00 |
| hosanai | o/ | 21:00 |
| cutforth | hello from snowy Colorado | 21:00 |
| takashi | o/ | 21:00 |
| cschwede | yay! o/ | 21:00 |
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| kota_ | hello | 21:00 |
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| jrichli | hi | 21:01 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
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| tdasilva | hello | 21:01 |
| jlhinson_ | o/ | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:01 |
| acoles | hello | 21:01 |
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| mmotiani | \o/ | 21:02 |
| ntata | o/ | 21:02 |
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| pdardeau | o/ | 21:02 |
| minwoob | o/ | 21:02 |
| notmyname | more people keep joining :-) | 21:02 |
| siva_krishnan | o/ | 21:02 |
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| torgomatic | . | 21:02 |
| timburke | sign of a healthy, growing community, right? | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | yup :-) | 21:03 |
| notmyname | ok, let's get started | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | agenda for this week is | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic new swift core team members | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | I'm very happy to announce that timburke and hosanai are now swift core team members | 21:04 |
| jrichli | Yay! congrats to both | 21:04 |
| notmyname | timburke: hosanai: thank you for all your work on swift | 21:04 |
| kota_ | congrats! | 21:04 |
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| tdasilva | cool! congrats timburke and hosanai | 21:04 |
| dmorita | Congrats! | 21:04 |
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| pdardeau | congrats! | 21:04 |
| gmmaha | congrats timburke and hosanai | 21:04 |
| cschwede | congrats Tim and Hisashi and welcome! great to have you onboard :) | 21:04 |
| takashi | congrats! :-) | 21:05 |
| siva_krishnan | Congrats guys! | 21:05 |
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| minwoob | Congrats! :-) | 21:05 |
| sgundur | congrats | 21:05 |
| hosanai | thanks all :-) | 21:05 |
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| timburke | thanks :-) | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | #topic The Next Release (tm) | 21:06 |
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| acoles | hosanai: timburke ready for the review begging?? :) welcome! | 21:06 |
| tdasilva | now can somebody review copy middleware ? | 21:06 |
| tdasilva | :D | 21:06 |
| tdasilva | jk | 21:06 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:06 |
| acoles | there you go !! ^ | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | we've got the openstack mitaka release coming up, so that means a swift release too | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | so far, I feel like this release is one of the smoothest in a long time | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | we're in really good shape | 21:07 |
| notmyname | all of the important things have landed | 21:07 |
| notmyname | thank you for your code and reviews | 21:07 |
| notmyname | looking at what's left... | 21:07 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | ...there's always things that would be nice to include | 21:07 |
| notmyname | but none of the open patches should block a release as far as I can tell | 21:08 |
| notmyname | do you think that's right? | 21:08 |
| acoles | i just added +2 on patch 257502 | 21:08 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257502/ - swift - Fix full_listing in internal_client | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | am I missing anything? | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | acoles: great | 21:08 |
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| cschwede | acoles: thx :D | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | patch 296175 needs to land of course, but normally that's the last patch in a release | 21:09 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296175/ - swift - 2.7.0 authors and changelog updates | 21:09 |
| notmyname | thanks acoles and jrichli for looking over that for me. I think the current version is pretty good | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | so unless something else comes up, I'd like to land the authors/changelog patch tonight, so we'll have a SHA for the release by tomorrow (all times my local timezone) | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | so if patch 257502 is reviewed by this afternoon, that would be great | 21:11 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257502/ - swift - Fix full_listing in internal_client | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | as soon as I have the SHA I'll request the release team to do the release. and then we'll be "done" until backports come up | 21:12 |
| notmyname | any questions or concerns about this release? | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | great :-) | 21:13 |
| notmyname | thank you everyone for your work | 21:13 |
| notmyname | again, while writing the changelog, I'm impressed with what's landed and excited about the new features and bugfixes available | 21:14 |
| notmyname | swift is pretty great, I think, and it's because of your work | 21:14 |
| acoles | notmyname: presume you will update changelog for stuff that has recently merged? | 21:14 |
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| acoles | auditor/rsync temp file cleanup, container sync | 21:14 |
| notmyname | acoles: if you think it needs to be specifically called out, then yes I can | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | oh yeah, the rsync file cleanup should be called out, at least | 21:15 |
| acoles | the auditor patch yes, because it introduces a new config option | 21:15 |
| notmyname | not sure about the container sync one | 21:15 |
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| acoles | yep, that ;) | 21:15 |
| notmyname | yeah, I'll do that right after this meeting | 21:15 |
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| acoles | agree, sync patch does not need specific mention | 21:15 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | looking ahead to after the release, keep an eye on starred patches in the gerrit dashboard and the community starred patches section of http://not.mn/swift/swift_community_dashboard.html | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | ok, next topic | 21:17 |
| notmyname | #topic rolling upgrade test | 21:17 |
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| notmyname | this is something that came up yesterday | 21:17 |
| notmyname | I don't have a lot to reference or written up to copy/paste, so let me see if I can succinctly describe it | 21:17 |
| notmyname | the openstack TC assigns tags to projects | 21:17 |
| notmyname | these tags are stuff like "has a diverse community" or "supports stable releases" | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | one of these tags is "supports rolling upgrades" | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | now we all know, mostly because we all do this in production clusters all the time, that swift supports rolling upgrades. and it always has | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | however, the requirements listed on the "supports rolling upgrades" test say that we only qualify for that tag if we have a gating check that passes tests against a configuration that is partly upgraded or in the middle of a rolling upgrade | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | so since swift doesn't have one like this in the gate, the TC is going to strip this tag from up | 21:20 |
| notmyname | so why does this matter? | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | well, these tags are published as "maturity" measures for people learning about openstack projects | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | and of course there's a big release coming, and there's a ton of marketing around it. so there will be more eyes on it | 21:21 |
| notmyname | so anyone who comes and looks will see that swift has one less point for it's maturity score, and that's bad for everyone, I think (in addition to just being wrong) | 21:22 |
| notmyname | so here's the problem: how do we add a gate job to test this to satisfy the letter of the law? | 21:22 |
| notmyname | make sense? any ideas? | 21:22 |
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| acoles | notmyname: do they specify which tests must pass? functional or tempest? | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | the tag definition is at http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/assert_supports-rolling-upgrade.html | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | specifically, see the 4th bullet point under requirements | 21:24 |
| tdasilva | so how do other teams do it? is it literately having a couple of nodes running older code and other nodes running newer code? | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: don't know. nova seems to be the only one the tc is happy with having that tag | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | here's the TC resolution that nearly passed yesterday and we were given one week respite on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292334/ | 21:25 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 292334 - governance - Remove rolling-upgrade tag from swift/ceilometer | 21:25 |
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| cschwede | notmyname: when does this need to be done? i mean adding a rolling upgrade test? | 21:25 |
| cschwede | ah, so one week? | 21:25 |
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| tdasilva | interesting how there are so many +1s there, but nobody there works on swift???? | 21:26 |
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| cschwede | can we extend that to two weeks, if we have a proposal in one week? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | cschwede: I dont' know. maybe | 21:26 |
| notmyname | cschwede: it certainly wouldn't hurt :-) | 21:26 |
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| cschwede | notmyname: i’ll think about this, and get in touch with you tomorrow | 21:27 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:27 |
| cschwede | maybe we can jump on a short conf call then | 21:27 |
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| notmyname | I talked briefly in the office with timburke about it | 21:27 |
| notmyname | cschwede: yeah, that woudl be good | 21:27 |
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| takashi | I heard that nova has some tests(unit tests?) to make sure they don't add any schema changes with drop supports for live upgrading, but I'm not so sure that keeps upgrading tag. | 21:27 |
| notmyname | we thought maybe running old code int he proxy with new code on the storage nodes might be sufficient. but I dont' know how to set that up | 21:27 |
| takashi | db schema changes | 21:28 |
| gmmaha | notmyname: i am guessing this is something we would like to acccomplish in an SAIO environment? | 21:28 |
| notmyname | takashi: I briefly looked at the gate jobs for nova, but there wasn't anyone that was named something obvious like "dsvm-test-rolling-upgrade" or anything | 21:29 |
| acoles | notmyname: might be possible using virtualenvs, but I can't say for sure without experimenting | 21:29 |
| notmyname | gmmaha: in the CI gate, it's all devstack | 21:29 |
| cschwede | notmyname: run functests on a saio using HEAD~1, upgrade to HEAD, run functests again? | 21:29 |
| notmyname | that's an upgrade test, not a rolling upgrade test | 21:30 |
| gmmaha | notmyname: aah ok. thanks | 21:30 |
| torgomatic | head to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for this all to blow over? | 21:30 |
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| notmyname | seems like we'd need 2 versions of the code at the same time | 21:30 |
| cschwede | notmyname: well, sure, with in-between steps then | 21:30 |
| acoles | where is this Winchester place? | 21:30 |
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| notmyname | as part of this, I did discover that with a very small change, I could take a swift sample config from september 2011 and run current code from it and pass functests :-) | 21:31 |
| takashi | notmyname: I see | 21:31 |
| kota_ | notmyname: awesome | 21:32 |
| notmyname | I thought it would be fun to say "yeah we support rolling upgrades. from 5 year old code to now. any other project do that?" | 21:32 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:32 |
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| cschwede | nice :) | 21:32 |
| notmyname | maybe we could get double maturity points for that ;-) | 21:32 |
| notmyname | anyway, so how do we make progress on this? | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: sounded like you had an idea? | 21:33 |
| acoles | notmyname: i will attempt to run different servers in different venvs tomorrow, that way we install two versions in different repo clones and venvs but set them up to talk to each other | 21:33 |
| notmyname | I think proxy at versionX and a/c/o at versionY should be sufficient | 21:33 |
| cschwede | notmyname: yes, but i need to think about it with a fresh mind and a coffee | 21:33 |
| notmyname | cschwede: lol | 21:33 |
| cschwede | so tomorrow morning (my time) ;) | 21:33 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: acoles: so how about I'll ping you tomorrow morning my time, and we'll check on status and have a phone call as necessary (of course anyone else is welcome too) | 21:34 |
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| cschwede | notmyname: sure, let’s do that, and I’ll try to ping acoles in advance, exchaning ideas | 21:35 |
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| cschwede | exchanging | 21:35 |
| acoles | notmyname: cschwede ok | 21:35 |
| notmyname | ok, great | 21:35 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: can you take care of the pint at the windchester for us? | 21:36 |
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| torgomatic | if nothing else, I'll get that done | 21:36 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:36 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | anything else to bring up this week in the meeting? | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | ok, then :-) | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | thanks you all for coming. good work on the release. thanks for your work | 21:39 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 23 21:39:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-03-23-21.00.html | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-03-23-21.00.txt | 21:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-03-23-21.00.log.html | 21:39 |
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