Tuesday, 2016-04-05

*** alexpilotti has quit IRC00:00
*** JRobinson__ has joined #openstack-meeting00:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC00:01
*** thorst has quit IRC00:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting00:01
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting00:08
*** asettle has quit IRC00:10
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC00:12
*** markvoelker has quit IRC00:12
*** dmorita has quit IRC00:13
*** garthb has quit IRC00:14
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting00:15
*** bustersw_ has quit IRC00:15
*** iyamahat has quit IRC00:15
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting00:16
*** keedya has joined #openstack-meeting00:17
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting00:18
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting00:20
*** jaypipes has quit IRC00:21
*** sputnik13 has quit IRC00:22
*** bvandenh has quit IRC00:25
*** bvandenh has joined #openstack-meeting00:25
*** harshs has quit IRC00:27
*** rfolco has joined #openstack-meeting00:27
*** harshs has joined #openstack-meeting00:28
*** sputnik13 has joined #openstack-meeting00:30
*** sputnik13 has quit IRC00:31
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting00:33
*** thorst has quit IRC00:36
*** Swami has quit IRC00:37
*** hoangcx has joined #openstack-meeting00:39
*** hoangcx has left #openstack-meeting00:40
*** asettle has quit IRC00:42
*** s3wong_ has joined #openstack-meeting00:42
*** s3wong has quit IRC00:42
*** julim has quit IRC00:43
*** s3wong_ has quit IRC00:44
*** pots1 has quit IRC00:45
*** pots1 has joined #openstack-meeting00:45
*** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting00:46
*** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting00:46
*** shashank_hegde has quit IRC00:47
*** pots1 has quit IRC00:49
*** galstrom_zzz is now known as galstrom00:50
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck00:51
*** dmacpher has quit IRC00:53
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting00:56
*** asingh has quit IRC00:59
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting00:59
*** pvaneck has quit IRC00:59
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting00:59
*** iceyao has joined #openstack-meeting00:59
*** asingh has joined #openstack-meeting01:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC01:01
*** toddjohn has quit IRC01:01
*** iceyao_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:01
*** nelsnelson has quit IRC01:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting01:01
*** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting01:01
*** asingh has quit IRC01:02
*** asingh has joined #openstack-meeting01:02
*** rossella_s has quit IRC01:02
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting01:03
*** kei has joined #openstack-meeting01:04
*** iceyao has quit IRC01:05
*** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting01:05
*** Qiming has joined #openstack-meeting01:07
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting01:08
*** asingh has quit IRC01:08
*** asselin has quit IRC01:09
*** asselin has joined #openstack-meeting01:09
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC01:13
*** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting01:13
*** epico has joined #openstack-meeting01:14
*** emsomeoneelse has joined #openstack-meeting01:15
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting01:16
*** aimon has quit IRC01:20
*** baoli has quit IRC01:23
*** apoorvad_ has quit IRC01:26
*** claudiub|2 has quit IRC01:27
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting01:28
*** galstrom is now known as galstrom_zzz01:28
*** kei has quit IRC01:29
*** harshs has quit IRC01:36
*** kei has joined #openstack-meeting01:39
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting01:47
*** tfukushima has joined #openstack-meeting01:47
*** s3wong has quit IRC01:50
*** kei_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:50
*** kei has quit IRC01:51
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting01:51
*** kei has joined #openstack-meeting01:54
*** kei_ has quit IRC01:54
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting01:54
*** jckasper has quit IRC01:55
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting01:55
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC01:55
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting01:55
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting01:58
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC02:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting02:01
*** unicell has quit IRC02:02
*** toddjohn has quit IRC02:02
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC02:04
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting02:08
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC02:08
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting02:10
*** baoli has quit IRC02:11
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting02:12
*** alex_xu has quit IRC02:13
*** xingchao has quit IRC02:14
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting02:14
*** liamji has joined #openstack-meeting02:15
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC02:15
*** alex_xu has joined #openstack-meeting02:16
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting02:16
*** rockyg has quit IRC02:16
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting02:18
*** bzhao has joined #openstack-meeting02:18
rockygJoin #openstack-meeting-alt02:18
*** raildo has quit IRC02:19
*** achanda has joined #openstack-meeting02:21
*** baoli has quit IRC02:22
*** esker has quit IRC02:27
*** tfukushima has quit IRC02:30
*** yamamoto has quit IRC02:32
*** rockyg has quit IRC02:35
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting02:35
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting02:38
*** rockyg has quit IRC02:38
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting02:38
*** rockyg has quit IRC02:39
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting02:39
*** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting02:40
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting02:40
*** JRobinson__ is now known as JRobinson__afk02:40
*** tfukushima has joined #openstack-meeting02:40
*** baojg has joined #openstack-meeting02:45
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting02:47
*** asettle has quit IRC02:48
*** yamamoto has quit IRC02:48
*** esker has quit IRC02:50
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting02:50
*** yamamot__ has joined #openstack-meeting02:51
*** xingchao has quit IRC02:52
*** jckasper has quit IRC02:53
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting02:53
*** jckasper has quit IRC02:54
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting02:54
*** mspreitz has joined #openstack-meeting02:56
*** thorst_ has quit IRC02:57
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting02:57
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC02:58
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting02:58
*** amrith is now known as _amrith_02:58
*** asselin has quit IRC02:59
*** asselin has joined #openstack-meeting02:59
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting02:59
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC03:01
*** haomaiwa_ has joined #openstack-meeting03:01
*** yamamot__ has quit IRC03:02
*** sdake has quit IRC03:02
*** kei_ has joined #openstack-meeting03:03
*** toddjohn has quit IRC03:04
*** rockyg has quit IRC03:04
*** john-davidge has quit IRC03:04
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting03:05
*** fawadkhaliq has joined #openstack-meeting03:06
*** kei has quit IRC03:06
*** kei_ is now known as kei03:06
*** thorst has quit IRC03:06
*** jckasper has quit IRC03:08
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting03:08
*** jckasper has quit IRC03:08
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting03:09
*** dmorita has quit IRC03:10
*** fawadkhaliq has quit IRC03:12
*** fawadkhaliq has joined #openstack-meeting03:13
*** gongysh_ has joined #openstack-meeting03:14
*** sekrit has joined #openstack-meeting03:17
*** erlon has quit IRC03:17
*** alex_xu has quit IRC03:18
*** alex_xu has joined #openstack-meeting03:20
*** gcb has joined #openstack-meeting03:20
*** neelashah has joined #openstack-meeting03:21
*** fawadkhaliq has quit IRC03:21
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting03:21
*** fawadkhaliq has joined #openstack-meeting03:22
*** fawadkhaliq has quit IRC03:22
*** fawadkhaliq has joined #openstack-meeting03:22
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck03:23
*** neelashah has quit IRC03:23
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting03:25
*** singhj has quit IRC03:25
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC03:29
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting03:29
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting03:30
*** jckasper has quit IRC03:31
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC03:33
*** dmorita has quit IRC03:35
*** karthikp has joined #openstack-meeting03:36
*** tochi has quit IRC03:38
*** links has joined #openstack-meeting03:39
*** banix has quit IRC03:43
*** jlwhite has joined #openstack-meeting03:46
*** mspreitz has quit IRC03:47
*** irenab has quit IRC03:47
*** yamamot__ has joined #openstack-meeting03:48
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting03:49
*** r-mibu has quit IRC03:49
*** tochi has joined #openstack-meeting03:50
*** bobh_ has quit IRC03:50
*** JRobinson__afk is now known as JRobinson__03:51
*** gongysh_ has quit IRC03:51
*** edtubill has joined #openstack-meeting03:55
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC03:57
*** alex_xu has quit IRC03:58
*** kei has quit IRC03:59
*** kei has joined #openstack-meeting03:59
*** alex_xu has joined #openstack-meeting04:01
*** haomaiwa_ has quit IRC04:01
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting04:01
*** haomaiwa_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:01
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting04:03
*** vmud213 has joined #openstack-meeting04:05
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting04:06
*** xingchao has quit IRC04:07
*** toddjohn has quit IRC04:08
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting04:08
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting04:09
*** garthb has joined #openstack-meeting04:09
*** cshahani has quit IRC04:09
*** thorst has quit IRC04:10
*** dane_leblanc has quit IRC04:12
*** dane_leblanc has joined #openstack-meeting04:12
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC04:13
*** brad_behle_ has quit IRC04:13
*** karthikp has quit IRC04:18
*** keedya has quit IRC04:20
*** comay has quit IRC04:20
*** esker has quit IRC04:20
*** shashank_hegde has joined #openstack-meeting04:21
*** asselin has quit IRC04:24
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting04:25
*** shashank_hegde has quit IRC04:28
*** r-mibu has joined #openstack-meeting04:29
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting04:30
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting04:32
*** neeti has joined #openstack-meeting04:35
*** neeti is now known as neeti|Training04:35
*** kei has quit IRC04:36
*** kei_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:36
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC04:37
*** jlwhite has quit IRC04:38
*** haomaiwa_ has quit IRC04:42
*** gcb has quit IRC04:43
*** ricolin has joined #openstack-meeting04:45
*** garthb has quit IRC04:46
*** asettle has quit IRC04:46
*** cartik has joined #openstack-meeting04:49
*** spzala has quit IRC04:49
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting04:50
*** hoangcx_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:52
*** hoangcx__ has joined #openstack-meeting04:52
*** hoangcx_ is now known as hoangcx04:52
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting04:53
*** mtanino has quit IRC04:53
*** hoangcx__ has quit IRC04:53
*** hoangcx has quit IRC04:54
*** hoangcx has joined #openstack-meeting04:54
*** eliqiao_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:57
*** hoangcx has quit IRC04:57
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting04:58
*** hoangcx has joined #openstack-meeting04:58
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting04:59
*** hoangcx has left #openstack-meeting04:59
*** gcb has joined #openstack-meeting04:59
*** eliqiao has quit IRC05:00
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting05:01
*** maeca has quit IRC05:02
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting05:03
*** xingchao has quit IRC05:04
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC05:06
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting05:06
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting05:06
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC05:08
*** winston-d_ has joined #openstack-meeting05:08
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting05:08
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting05:09
*** shashank_hegde has joined #openstack-meeting05:09
*** synegi has quit IRC05:11
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC05:11
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC05:11
*** elopez has joined #openstack-meeting05:12
*** cshahani has joined #openstack-meeting05:16
*** thorst has quit IRC05:16
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting05:18
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC05:20
*** cartik has quit IRC05:20
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting05:24
*** esker has quit IRC05:26
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC05:27
*** haukebruno has joined #openstack-meeting05:28
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting05:29
*** balajiiyer has quit IRC05:29
*** markvoelker has quit IRC05:30
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC05:31
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC05:31
*** rfolco has quit IRC05:33
*** armax has quit IRC05:35
*** maeca has quit IRC05:36
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting05:37
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting05:41
*** hdaniel has joined #openstack-meeting05:44
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting05:44
*** mrmartin has quit IRC05:44
*** edtubill has quit IRC05:46
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting05:47
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting05:48
*** mrmartin has quit IRC05:48
*** shashank_hegde has quit IRC05:49
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting05:50
*** rcernin has joined #openstack-meeting05:51
*** ryu25 has joined #openstack-meeting05:51
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC05:51
*** esker has quit IRC05:52
*** shashank_hegde has joined #openstack-meeting05:52
*** nkrinner has joined #openstack-meeting05:55
*** spzala has quit IRC05:56
*** Poornima has joined #openstack-meeting05:57
*** anilvenkata has joined #openstack-meeting05:59
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting06:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC06:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting06:01
*** fawadkhaliq has quit IRC06:02
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting06:05
*** xingchao has quit IRC06:06
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting06:07
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting06:08
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting06:08
*** vgridnev has joined #openstack-meeting06:08
*** bvandenh has quit IRC06:09
*** yuval has joined #openstack-meeting06:09
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting06:09
*** toddjohn has quit IRC06:09
*** kei_ has quit IRC06:10
*** kei_ has joined #openstack-meeting06:11
*** esker has quit IRC06:12
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC06:12
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting06:14
*** cshahani has quit IRC06:14
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC06:16
*** eliqiao_ is now known as eliqiao06:19
*** thorst has quit IRC06:21
*** sheeprine has quit IRC06:22
*** hichihara has quit IRC06:23
*** paul-carlton1 has joined #openstack-meeting06:25
*** sheeprine has joined #openstack-meeting06:25
*** mmuppidi has joined #openstack-meeting06:26
*** pots1 has joined #openstack-meeting06:29
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting06:31
*** iyamahat has quit IRC06:31
*** scheuran has joined #openstack-meeting06:32
*** yamahata has quit IRC06:33
*** xingchao has quit IRC06:33
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting06:34
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting06:35
*** achanda has quit IRC06:40
*** eliqiao has quit IRC06:43
*** emsomeoneelse has quit IRC06:44
*** eliqiao has joined #openstack-meeting06:45
*** eliqiao has quit IRC06:45
*** vgridnev has quit IRC06:47
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting06:52
*** eliqiao has joined #openstack-meeting06:53
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC06:53
*** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting06:54
*** mmuppidi has quit IRC06:56
*** spzala has quit IRC06:56
*** akaszuba has joined #openstack-meeting06:59
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC07:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting07:01
*** kei_ has quit IRC07:03
yamamot__ #startmeeting networking_midonet07:05
*** markvoelker has quit IRC07:06
*** lpetrut has quit IRC07:06
*** jichen has joined #openstack-meeting07:10
yamamot__anyone here for networking-midonet meeting?07:10
*** nmagnezi has joined #openstack-meeting07:13
yamamot__#startmeeting networking_midonet07:15
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 07:15:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yamamot__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:15
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:15
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_midonet)"07:15
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_midonet'07:15
yamamot__#topic Agenda07:15
*** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: networking_midonet)"07:15
yamamot__#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NetworkingMidoNet07:15
yamamot__#topic Announcements07:15
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking_midonet)"07:15
yamamot__nothing from me07:16
yamamot__#topic Bugs07:16
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_midonet)"07:16
yamamot__#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-midonet/07:16
*** adiantum has joined #openstack-meeting07:16
yamamot__#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-midonet/+bug/156614407:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1566144 in networking-midonet "MidonetL2GatewayTestCase failure" [Critical,New]07:16
yamamot__this one is new07:16
yamamot__kengo is looking at that07:17
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting07:19
yamamot__it has been broken by the recent networking-l2gw change07:19
*** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting07:21
yamamot__i feel we should try harder to cooperate with "upstream" to avoid this kind of breakage.07:22
*** nadya has quit IRC07:22
yamamot__i'll continue bug deputy07:23
yamamot__#topic extra top-level package07:24
*** openstack changes topic to "extra top-level package (Meeting topic: networking_midonet)"07:24
yamamot__we currently have the plugin code under midonet.neutron07:24
yamamot__this structure occasionally causes problems07:25
yamamot__i'm wondering why this structure was chosen in the first place07:25
*** xingchao has quit IRC07:25
yamamot__if anyone reading this meeting log has an idea, let me know.07:25
yamamot__#topic Open Discussion07:25
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking_midonet)"07:25
*** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting07:26
yamamot__i guess we've done07:26
* yamamot__ waiting for a few mins before closing the meeting07:26
*** thorst has quit IRC07:26
*** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting07:27
*** ndipanov has joined #openstack-meeting07:27
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"07:27
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 07:27:55 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)07:27
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_midonet/2016/networking_midonet.2016-04-05-07.15.html07:27
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_midonet/2016/networking_midonet.2016-04-05-07.15.txt07:27
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_midonet/2016/networking_midonet.2016-04-05-07.15.log.html07:28
*** asettle has quit IRC07:29
*** adiantum has quit IRC07:33
*** dmacpher has joined #openstack-meeting07:34
*** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting07:36
*** pcaruana has joined #openstack-meeting07:37
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC07:38
*** sheel has joined #openstack-meeting07:38
*** adahms has quit IRC07:39
*** phil has joined #openstack-meeting07:39
*** phil is now known as Guest941707:39
*** achanda has joined #openstack-meeting07:40
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting07:41
*** achanda has quit IRC07:44
*** hdaniel has quit IRC07:45
*** asettle has quit IRC07:47
*** hdaniel has joined #openstack-meeting07:47
*** lezbar has quit IRC07:47
*** lezbar has joined #openstack-meeting07:48
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting07:49
*** epico has quit IRC07:49
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting07:53
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting07:54
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting07:54
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC07:55
*** spzala has quit IRC07:57
lennyb#startmeeting third-party08:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 08:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)"08:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'08:00
*** mbound has quit IRC08:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC08:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting08:01
*** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting08:01
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting08:02
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting08:02
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting08:05
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting08:06
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting08:06
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting08:07
*** toddjohn has quit IRC08:11
*** shashank_hegde has quit IRC08:16
*** epico has joined #openstack-meeting08:17
*** nmagnezi has quit IRC08:18
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"08:20
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 08:20:24 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)08:20
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-05-08.00.html08:20
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-05-08.00.txt08:20
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-05-08.00.log.html08:20
*** nmagnezi has joined #openstack-meeting08:22
*** ebalduf has quit IRC08:23
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting08:24
*** hashar has joined #openstack-meeting08:30
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting08:30
*** thorst has quit IRC08:30
*** ihrachys has quit IRC08:31
*** nisha_ has joined #openstack-meeting08:34
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC08:35
*** markvoelker has quit IRC08:35
*** yassine__ has joined #openstack-meeting08:36
*** nisha_ has quit IRC08:36
*** fzdarsky has quit IRC08:36
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting08:37
*** electrofelix has joined #openstack-meeting08:40
*** dmacpher has quit IRC08:41
*** iceyao has joined #openstack-meeting08:41
*** iceyao_ has quit IRC08:44
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting08:47
*** Liuqing has joined #openstack-meeting08:54
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting08:54
*** yifei has quit IRC08:54
*** zhang2005 has joined #openstack-meeting08:56
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting08:56
*** pzchen has joined #openstack-meeting08:57
*** pzchen has quit IRC08:58
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting08:58
*** spzala has quit IRC09:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC09:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting09:01
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting09:01
*** yifei has joined #openstack-meeting09:02
*** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting09:03
*** zhurong has quit IRC09:04
*** ajo_ is now known as ajo09:06
*** zeih has quit IRC09:07
*** mickeys has quit IRC09:08
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting09:11
*** achanda has joined #openstack-meeting09:13
*** dmorita has quit IRC09:16
*** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting09:16
*** achanda has quit IRC09:18
*** Liuqing has quit IRC09:21
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting09:22
*** ygbo has joined #openstack-meeting09:23
*** HeOS has quit IRC09:26
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting09:28
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC09:32
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting09:32
*** sambetts|afk is now known as sambetts09:34
*** thorst has quit IRC09:36
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting09:37
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting09:38
*** baojg has quit IRC09:42
*** baojg has joined #openstack-meeting09:43
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting09:44
*** mrmartin has quit IRC09:45
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting09:46
*** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting09:47
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC09:50
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting09:50
*** baojg has quit IRC09:51
*** baojg has joined #openstack-meeting09:52
*** allen_gao has quit IRC09:55
*** xingchao has quit IRC09:56
*** Liuqing has joined #openstack-meeting09:57
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting09:58
*** Thin has joined #openstack-meeting09:58
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC09:58
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC10:01
*** tochi has quit IRC10:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting10:01
*** spzala has quit IRC10:03
*** allen_gao has joined #openstack-meeting10:04
*** JRobinson__ has quit IRC10:04
*** Thin has quit IRC10:06
*** markvoelker has quit IRC10:06
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting10:06
*** sdague has joined #openstack-meeting10:07
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting10:08
*** Thin has joined #openstack-meeting10:09
*** Qiming has quit IRC10:09
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC10:10
*** scheuran has quit IRC10:10
*** Thin has quit IRC10:11
*** toddjohn has quit IRC10:13
*** electrofelix has quit IRC10:14
*** iceyao has quit IRC10:14
*** electrofelix has joined #openstack-meeting10:14
*** epico has quit IRC10:15
*** asettle has quit IRC10:16
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC10:17
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck10:18
*** hoangcx has joined #openstack-meeting10:19
*** zhang2005 has quit IRC10:19
*** ihrachys has quit IRC10:24
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting10:27
*** haukebruno has quit IRC10:27
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC10:28
*** jlanoux has quit IRC10:30
*** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting10:32
*** fzdarsky has quit IRC10:33
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting10:33
*** yamamot__ has quit IRC10:34
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting10:38
*** _amrith_ is now known as amrith10:38
*** sridharg has quit IRC10:39
*** thorst has quit IRC10:41
*** lpetrut has quit IRC10:42
*** winston-d_ has quit IRC10:42
*** electrofelix has quit IRC10:42
*** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting10:46
*** ygbo has quit IRC10:46
*** electrofelix has joined #openstack-meeting10:47
*** jlanoux has quit IRC10:47
*** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting10:50
*** salv-orl_ has quit IRC10:52
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting10:53
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting10:59
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting10:59
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting11:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC11:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting11:01
*** tfukushima has quit IRC11:02
*** speller has joined #openstack-meeting11:02
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting11:03
*** asettle has quit IRC11:03
*** numan_ has joined #openstack-meeting11:04
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting11:04
*** spzala has quit IRC11:04
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck11:09
*** pzchen has joined #openstack-meeting11:09
*** achanda has joined #openstack-meeting11:13
*** pzchen has quit IRC11:14
*** achanda has quit IRC11:15
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting11:16
*** tellesnobrega is now known as tellesnobrega_af11:16
*** jschwarz has joined #openstack-meeting11:17
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting11:18
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting11:18
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting11:20
*** banix has quit IRC11:20
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting11:20
*** sridhargaddam has joined #openstack-meeting11:22
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting11:23
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting11:24
*** sridharg has quit IRC11:24
*** mbound has quit IRC11:24
*** mickeys has quit IRC11:25
*** sridhargaddam has quit IRC11:27
*** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting11:27
*** banix has quit IRC11:27
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC11:28
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting11:30
*** rodrigods has quit IRC11:32
*** xingchao has quit IRC11:32
*** rodrigods has joined #openstack-meeting11:32
*** baojg has quit IRC11:34
*** Qiming has joined #openstack-meeting11:34
*** sc68cal has joined #openstack-meeting11:35
*** markvoelker has quit IRC11:35
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting11:39
*** mbound has quit IRC11:39
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting11:40
*** mbound has quit IRC11:40
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting11:41
*** sc68cal_ has joined #openstack-meeting11:43
*** rtheis has joined #openstack-meeting11:44
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting11:44
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting11:45
*** sc68cal has quit IRC11:45
*** yamamoto has quit IRC11:45
*** asettle has quit IRC11:46
*** sc68cal_ has quit IRC11:46
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting11:46
*** dneary has quit IRC11:46
*** sc68cal has joined #openstack-meeting11:46
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting11:47
*** thorst has quit IRC11:48
*** weshay has joined #openstack-meeting11:50
*** xingchao has quit IRC11:50
*** iceyao has joined #openstack-meeting11:53
*** raildo-afk is now known as raildo11:54
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting11:54
*** andymaier has joined #openstack-meeting11:54
*** MaxPC has joined #openstack-meeting11:54
*** sdake has quit IRC11:55
*** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting11:57
*** ygbo has joined #openstack-meeting11:58
*** ygbo has quit IRC11:58
*** jaypipes has joined #openstack-meeting11:58
*** ygbo has joined #openstack-meeting11:58
*** yamamoto has quit IRC11:59
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting12:00
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting12:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC12:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting12:01
*** mrmartin has quit IRC12:02
*** cdelatte has joined #openstack-meeting12:04
*** rfolco has joined #openstack-meeting12:05
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck12:05
*** yamamoto has quit IRC12:06
*** spzala has quit IRC12:06
*** electrofelix has quit IRC12:08
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting12:09
*** sridharg has quit IRC12:09
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting12:09
*** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting12:09
*** aysyd has joined #openstack-meeting12:10
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting12:10
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting12:11
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting12:12
*** yamamoto has quit IRC12:13
*** jlwhite has joined #openstack-meeting12:13
*** toddjohn has quit IRC12:14
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting12:15
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting12:15
*** dmorita has quit IRC12:17
*** pradk has quit IRC12:17
*** pradk has joined #openstack-meeting12:17
*** yamamoto has quit IRC12:18
*** erlon has joined #openstack-meeting12:18
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC12:19
*** sc68cal_ has joined #openstack-meeting12:20
*** sc68cal has quit IRC12:21
*** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting12:23
*** cdub has quit IRC12:23
*** xyang1 has joined #openstack-meeting12:24
*** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting12:25
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting12:26
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting12:27
*** balajiiyer has quit IRC12:27
*** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting12:29
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting12:31
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting12:33
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting12:34
*** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting12:34
*** yamamoto has quit IRC12:36
*** zeih has quit IRC12:37
*** obondarev has quit IRC12:38
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting12:39
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck12:39
*** baoli_ has joined #openstack-meeting12:40
*** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting12:42
*** baoli has quit IRC12:43
*** obondarev has quit IRC12:43
*** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting12:44
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting12:45
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting12:45
*** asettle has quit IRC12:46
*** obondarev has quit IRC12:46
*** zeih has quit IRC12:47
*** Yanyanhu has joined #openstack-meeting12:50
*** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting12:51
*** julim has joined #openstack-meeting12:52
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC12:53
*** dneary has joined #openstack-meeting12:54
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting12:55
*** mdenny has quit IRC12:56
*** sdake_ has quit IRC12:57
*** haiwei has joined #openstack-meeting12:57
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting12:58
*** elynn has joined #openstack-meeting12:58
*** cschulz has joined #openstack-meeting12:58
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting12:59
Qiming#startmeeting senlin13:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 13:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: senlin)"13:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'senlin'13:00
*** cznewt has joined #openstack-meeting13:00
*** toddjohn has quit IRC13:00
Qiming#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda13:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC13:01
Qimingpls check if you have items to add13:01
*** ski3 has joined #openstack-meeting13:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting13:01
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting13:01
Qiming#topic Rally testing intro13:01
*** iceyao has quit IRC13:01
*** openstack changes topic to "Rally testing intro (Meeting topic: senlin)"13:01
*** igordcard has joined #openstack-meeting13:01
QimingYanyanhu, could you share with us something?13:02
Yanyanhumy part?13:02
Qimingwho is rally expert in the team?13:02
Yanyanhuin last two weeks, I worked on Senlin support in Rally13:02
*** igordcard has quit IRC13:02
Yanyanhuhaiwei, I guess :)13:02
haiweinot an expert, Yanyanhu13:02
*** igordcard has joined #openstack-meeting13:03
Yanyanhuwe try to leverage Rally's scenario test ability to support stress/performance test of senlin api/engine services13:03
Yanyanhuhaiwei, met neither :)13:03
Yanyanhuso the first step is adding senlin support into Rally13:03
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting13:03
haiweisaw your patch13:03
Yanyanhutwo patches have been proposed here https://review.openstack.org/29810913:03
Yanyanhuand here https://review.openstack.org/30152213:04
Qimingrally is not using tempest model?13:04
*** iceyao has joined #openstack-meeting13:04
Yanyanhunot very sure about it, but I guess so13:04
elynnWill it overlap with existing tempest scenarios?13:04
Yanyanhuuser can define a test job using decription file13:04
Yanyanhuelynn, I guess there could be overlap13:04
*** sc68cal_ has quit IRC13:05
elynnOkay, then two codes need to be maintained...13:05
Yanyanhubut IMHO, Rally is very suitable for performance test13:05
QimingI'm wondering what's the advantage of using both rally and tempest13:05
*** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting13:06
cschulzRally site seems to imply that Rally runs tempest test under the covers.13:06
Qimingis it legitimate to create 1000 VMs ?13:06
Yanyanhuelynn, actually, for senlin support of Rally, all codes will be submitted to Rally project13:06
YanyanhuQiming, that's possible13:07
*** spzala has quit IRC13:07
*** zzxwill has joined #openstack-meeting13:08
QimingI'm a little bit concerned with patch #301522, because we are (will be) duplicating quite some code13:08
Yanyanhucschulz, nice. If so, we can consider to integrate the senlin rally test and tempest support13:08
YanyanhuQiming, that's true13:08
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting13:08
cschulzI think so.13:08
*** jckasper has quit IRC13:09
YanyanhuQiming, but I'm not sure how to let rally support senlin based on our current work about tempest?13:09
elynnOK, then the question would be how to integrate these two things.13:09
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting13:09
Qimingif test cases are written in the tempest plugin model13:09
Qimingshould they live in senlin code base instead?13:10
YanyanhuI guess that means we need to contribute some support about senlin to tempest project?13:10
YanyanhuQiming, not sure how rally can use them if so13:10
Qimingit is just stevedore plugin13:10
Yanyanhuwill make investigation13:10
elynnYanyanhu, with tempest plugin , we don't need to touch tempest project.13:10
*** jraim_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:14
*** mrvinti_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:14
*** wendar_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:14
*** Adri2000_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:17
*** dutsmoc has joined #openstack-meeting13:20
*** mgagne_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:20
*** _d34dh0r53_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:20
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC13:21
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC13:21
*** nadya has quit IRC13:21
*** lezbar has quit IRC13:21
*** zz_dimtruck has quit IRC13:21
*** whenry has quit IRC13:21
*** krtaylor has quit IRC13:21
*** jdob has quit IRC13:21
*** agireud has quit IRC13:21
*** spotz_zzz has quit IRC13:21
*** ayoung has quit IRC13:21
*** jdurgin has quit IRC13:21
*** IgorYozhikov has quit IRC13:21
*** topol has quit IRC13:21
*** Akis__ has quit IRC13:21
*** dougwig has quit IRC13:21
*** madorn has quit IRC13:21
*** Adri2000 has quit IRC13:21
*** lcastell has quit IRC13:21
*** pfreund has quit IRC13:21
*** jraim has quit IRC13:21
*** xiaohhui has quit IRC13:21
*** mgagne has quit IRC13:21
*** wendar has quit IRC13:21
*** ericksonsantos has quit IRC13:21
*** synegy34 has quit IRC13:21
*** jklare has quit IRC13:21
*** sballe_ has quit IRC13:21
*** mrvinti has quit IRC13:21
*** xgerman has quit IRC13:21
*** darrenc has quit IRC13:21
*** cloudnull has quit IRC13:21
*** leifz has quit IRC13:21
*** sankarshan_away has quit IRC13:21
*** comstud has quit IRC13:21
*** d34dh0r53 has quit IRC13:21
*** dtroyer has quit IRC13:21
*** eglute has quit IRC13:21
*** merooney has quit IRC13:21
*** mtanino has quit IRC13:21
*** rtheis has quit IRC13:21
*** allen_gao has quit IRC13:21
*** elopez has quit IRC13:21
*** marios has quit IRC13:21
*** liusheng has quit IRC13:21
*** tjcocozz has quit IRC13:21
*** fbo has quit IRC13:21
*** skarn has quit IRC13:21
*** akamyshnikova has quit IRC13:21
*** beekhof has quit IRC13:21
*** dmellado has quit IRC13:21
*** pleia2 has quit IRC13:21
*** markmcclain has quit IRC13:21
*** tlbr has quit IRC13:21
*** gmann has quit IRC13:21
*** ianychoi has quit IRC13:21
*** smurke has quit IRC13:21
*** clayton has quit IRC13:21
*** haiwei has quit IRC13:21
*** iceyao has quit IRC13:21
*** igordcard has quit IRC13:21
*** jlanoux has quit IRC13:21
*** hashar has quit IRC13:21
*** paul-carlton1 has quit IRC13:21
*** bzhao has quit IRC13:21
*** ajmiller has quit IRC13:21
*** myoung has quit IRC13:21
*** SotK has quit IRC13:21
*** taron has quit IRC13:21
*** nonameentername has quit IRC13:21
*** amit213 has quit IRC13:21
*** cbader has quit IRC13:21
*** mtreinish has quit IRC13:21
*** dstanek has quit IRC13:21
*** ityaptin has quit IRC13:21
*** flip214 has quit IRC13:21
*** mkoderer has quit IRC13:21
*** persia has quit IRC13:21
*** alaski has quit IRC13:21
*** bdperkin has quit IRC13:21
*** Zara has quit IRC13:21
*** reed has quit IRC13:21
*** isq_ has quit IRC13:21
*** sirushti has quit IRC13:21
*** wbhuber has quit IRC13:21
*** dabukalam has quit IRC13:21
*** dasm has quit IRC13:21
*** pmath has quit IRC13:21
*** elynn has quit IRC13:21
*** maeca has quit IRC13:21
*** mbound has quit IRC13:21
*** Liuqing has quit IRC13:21
*** neiljerram has quit IRC13:21
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC13:21
*** hdaniel has quit IRC13:21
*** jichen has quit IRC13:21
*** rcernin has quit IRC13:21
*** gcb has quit IRC13:21
*** zzxwill has quit IRC13:21
*** vishwanathj has quit IRC13:21
*** egarbade- has quit IRC13:21
*** harlowja has quit IRC13:21
*** Guest22202 has quit IRC13:21
*** ajo has quit IRC13:21
*** geguileo has quit IRC13:21
*** raginbajin has quit IRC13:21
*** aleksandr_null has quit IRC13:21
*** cgross has quit IRC13:21
*** Guest88568 has quit IRC13:21
*** hurricanerix has quit IRC13:21
*** odyssey4me has quit IRC13:21
*** lbragstad has quit IRC13:21
*** trey has quit IRC13:21
*** hemna has quit IRC13:21
*** tonyb has quit IRC13:21
*** markvan has quit IRC13:21
*** sneti has quit IRC13:21
*** rmk has quit IRC13:21
*** cschulz has quit IRC13:21
*** yifei has quit IRC13:21
*** e0ne has quit IRC13:21
*** zqfan has quit IRC13:21
*** zul has quit IRC13:21
*** bswartz has quit IRC13:21
*** marcusvrn_ has quit IRC13:21
*** mdavidson has quit IRC13:21
*** blogan has quit IRC13:21
*** BeanZhang has quit IRC13:21
*** sileht has quit IRC13:21
*** dixiaoli_ has quit IRC13:21
*** haneef has quit IRC13:21
*** sweston has quit IRC13:21
*** mmotiani has quit IRC13:21
*** akuznetsova has quit IRC13:21
*** ChrisPriceAB has quit IRC13:21
*** rods has quit IRC13:21
*** _RuiChen has quit IRC13:21
*** afazekas has quit IRC13:21
*** dteselkin has quit IRC13:21
*** DuncanT has quit IRC13:21
*** ashtokolov has quit IRC13:21
*** llu has quit IRC13:21
*** vmbrasseur has quit IRC13:21
*** luzC has quit IRC13:21
*** jvrbanac has quit IRC13:21
*** yarkot has quit IRC13:21
*** krugg has quit IRC13:21
*** otherwiseguy has quit IRC13:21
*** larainema has quit IRC13:21
*** jamespage has quit IRC13:21
*** mikal has quit IRC13:21
*** bradjones has quit IRC13:21
*** johnthetubaguy has quit IRC13:21
*** jroll has quit IRC13:21
*** ianw has quit IRC13:21
*** dosaboy has quit IRC13:21
*** EmilienM has quit IRC13:21
*** ptoohill has quit IRC13:21
*** radez has quit IRC13:21
*** briancurtin has quit IRC13:21
*** navidp has quit IRC13:21
*** siva_krishnan has quit IRC13:21
*** Douhet has quit IRC13:21
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC13:21
*** fzdarsky has quit IRC13:21
*** sridharg has quit IRC13:21
*** MaxPC has quit IRC13:21
*** weshay has quit IRC13:21
*** numan_ has quit IRC13:21
*** dane_leblanc has quit IRC13:21
*** trozet has quit IRC13:21
*** reedip__ has quit IRC13:21
*** jtomasek has quit IRC13:21
*** bapalm has quit IRC13:21
*** philipw has quit IRC13:21
*** kbyrne has quit IRC13:21
*** amitry has quit IRC13:21
*** onovy has quit IRC13:21
*** krotscheck has quit IRC13:21
*** simonmcc has quit IRC13:21
*** gibi has quit IRC13:21
*** docaedo has quit IRC13:21
*** craige has quit IRC13:21
*** adam_g has quit IRC13:21
*** phschwartz has quit IRC13:21
*** ryanpetrello has quit IRC13:21
*** sigmavirus24_awa has quit IRC13:21
*** Nakato has quit IRC13:21
*** kozhukalov has quit IRC13:21
*** pumaranikar has quit IRC13:21
*** toan has quit IRC13:21
*** flaper87 has quit IRC13:21
*** intr1nsic has quit IRC13:21
*** anthonyper has quit IRC13:21
*** ildikov has quit IRC13:21
*** zehicle_ has quit IRC13:21
*** tristanC has quit IRC13:21
*** mrhillsman has quit IRC13:21
*** elmiko has quit IRC13:21
*** pcarver has quit IRC13:21
*** Swanson has quit IRC13:21
*** Kiall has quit IRC13:21
*** _fortis has quit IRC13:21
*** huats_ has quit IRC13:21
*** ukinau- has quit IRC13:21
*** SergeyLukjanov has quit IRC13:21
*** lsell has quit IRC13:21
*** kaisers has quit IRC13:21
*** gerhardqux has quit IRC13:21
*** edleafe has quit IRC13:21
*** jckasper has quit IRC13:21
*** Yanyanhu has quit IRC13:21
*** jlwhite has quit IRC13:21
*** dprince has quit IRC13:21
*** sdague has quit IRC13:21
*** nmagnezi has quit IRC13:21
*** pcaruana has quit IRC13:21
*** ricolin has quit IRC13:21
*** rossella_s has quit IRC13:21
*** nelsnelson has quit IRC13:21
*** ominakov has quit IRC13:21
*** guitarzan has quit IRC13:21
*** hogepodge has quit IRC13:21
*** beagles has quit IRC13:21
*** kprabhuv- has quit IRC13:21
*** hockeynut has quit IRC13:21
*** ttrifonov has quit IRC13:21
*** _alastor_ has quit IRC13:21
*** kmartin has quit IRC13:21
*** galstrom_zzz has quit IRC13:21
*** cebruns has quit IRC13:21
*** amrith has quit IRC13:21
*** thingee has quit IRC13:21
*** ryu25 has quit IRC13:21
*** jhesketh has quit IRC13:21
*** yamamoto has quit IRC13:21
*** dneary has quit IRC13:21
*** markvoelker has quit IRC13:21
*** pradk has quit IRC13:21
*** irenab has quit IRC13:21
*** pots1 has quit IRC13:21
*** alex_xu has quit IRC13:21
*** dmowrer has quit IRC13:21
*** wznoinsk has quit IRC13:21
*** aeng has quit IRC13:21
*** Fdaisuke has quit IRC13:21
*** pfallenop has quit IRC13:21
*** thekingofbandit has quit IRC13:21
*** dims has quit IRC13:21
*** niska has quit IRC13:21
*** asselin_ has quit IRC13:21
*** redrobot has quit IRC13:21
*** lazy_prince has quit IRC13:21
*** hugokuo has quit IRC13:21
*** mathiasb has quit IRC13:21
*** zaneb has quit IRC13:21
*** cgoncalves has quit IRC13:21
*** homerp has quit IRC13:21
*** netapp has quit IRC13:21
*** mordred has quit IRC13:21
*** dansmith has quit IRC13:21
*** andreaf has quit IRC13:21
*** jogo has quit IRC13:21
*** jokke_ has quit IRC13:21
*** aerwin3 has quit IRC13:21
*** hughhalf has quit IRC13:21
*** ahale has quit IRC13:21
*** reedip has quit IRC13:21
*** wolsen has quit IRC13:21
*** HenryG has quit IRC13:21
*** john5223 has quit IRC13:21
*** ski3 has quit IRC13:21
*** julim has quit IRC13:21
*** annegentle has quit IRC13:21
*** thorst_ has quit IRC13:21
*** ndipanov has quit IRC13:21
*** egallen has quit IRC13:21
*** neeti|Training has quit IRC13:21
*** eric_lopez has quit IRC13:21
*** lbeliveau has quit IRC13:21
*** luisfdez has quit IRC13:21
*** kmARC has quit IRC13:21
*** sreshetnyak has quit IRC13:21
*** bhakta has quit IRC13:21
*** duvarenkov has quit IRC13:21
*** mkoderer__ has quit IRC13:21
*** amakarov has quit IRC13:21
*** pedroalvarez has quit IRC13:21
*** kencjohnston has quit IRC13:21
*** dolphm has quit IRC13:21
*** doffm has quit IRC13:21
*** raildo has quit IRC13:21
*** cschwede has quit IRC13:21
*** clarkb has quit IRC13:21
*** notmyname has quit IRC13:21
*** DinaBelova has quit IRC13:21
*** stevebaker has quit IRC13:21
*** jd__ has quit IRC13:21
*** SpamapS has quit IRC13:21
*** aarefiev has quit IRC13:21
*** amandap has quit IRC13:21
*** smcginnis has quit IRC13:21
*** zigo has quit IRC13:21
*** bkero has quit IRC13:21
*** mrodden has quit IRC13:21
*** bknudson has quit IRC13:21
*** loquacities has quit IRC13:21
*** purp has quit IRC13:21
*** sekrit has quit IRC13:21
*** pl0pix has quit IRC13:21
*** toscalix has quit IRC13:21
*** baoli_ has quit IRC13:21
*** xyang1 has quit IRC13:21
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC13:21
*** david-lyle has quit IRC13:21
*** grassass has quit IRC13:21
*** samueldmq has quit IRC13:21
*** ktrmzn has quit IRC13:22
*** jeblair has quit IRC13:22
*** Clint has quit IRC13:22
*** dgonzalez has quit IRC13:22
*** _matthias_ has quit IRC13:22
*** lifeless has quit IRC13:22
*** masayukig has quit IRC13:22
*** mestery has quit IRC13:22
*** sonus has quit IRC13:22
*** egon has quit IRC13:22
*** mugsie has quit IRC13:22
*** tris has quit IRC13:22
*** frickler has quit IRC13:22
*** breton has quit IRC13:22
*** ttx has quit IRC13:22
*** erlon has quit IRC13:22
*** aysyd has quit IRC13:22
*** cdelatte has quit IRC13:22
*** ygbo has quit IRC13:22
*** akaszuba has quit IRC13:22
*** Poornima has quit IRC13:22
*** nkrinner has quit IRC13:22
*** r-mibu has quit IRC13:22
*** unicell has quit IRC13:22
*** ski2 has quit IRC13:22
*** yantarou has quit IRC13:22
*** stevemar has quit IRC13:22
*** gongysh has quit IRC13:22
*** liqw has quit IRC13:22
*** briancline has quit IRC13:22
*** ajiang has quit IRC13:22
*** serverascode has quit IRC13:22
*** fmccrthy has quit IRC13:22
*** aorourke_ has quit IRC13:22
*** ogelbukh has quit IRC13:22
*** zxiiro has quit IRC13:22
*** bryan_att has quit IRC13:22
*** joearnold has quit IRC13:22
*** rakhmerov has quit IRC13:22
*** skath_ has quit IRC13:22
*** zhiyan has quit IRC13:22
*** jasondotstar has quit IRC13:22
*** melwitt has quit IRC13:22
*** hazmat has quit IRC13:22
*** fernnest_ has quit IRC13:22
*** carl_baldwin has quit IRC13:22
*** nurla has quit IRC13:22
*** peterlisak has quit IRC13:22
*** ameade has quit IRC13:22
*** beisner has quit IRC13:22
*** boris-42 has quit IRC13:22
*** tdasilva has quit IRC13:22
*** jgriffith has quit IRC13:22
*** etoews has quit IRC13:22
*** njohnston has quit IRC13:22
*** haleyb has quit IRC13:22
*** CaptTofu has quit IRC13:22
*** jesusaur has quit IRC13:22
*** itsuugo has quit IRC13:22
*** toddjohn_ has quit IRC13:22
*** andreykurilin__ has quit IRC13:22
*** soren has quit IRC13:22
*** j^2 has quit IRC13:22
*** lekha has quit IRC13:22
*** HeOS has quit IRC13:22
*** Qiming has quit IRC13:22
*** rodrigods has quit IRC13:22
*** yuval has quit IRC13:22
*** rhedlind has quit IRC13:22
*** darvon has quit IRC13:22
*** peterstac has quit IRC13:22
*** pkoniszewski has quit IRC13:22
*** Daviey_ has quit IRC13:22
*** thomasem_ has quit IRC13:22
*** aloga has quit IRC13:22
*** pots has quit IRC13:22
*** bnemec has quit IRC13:22
*** rvasilets has quit IRC13:22
*** timothyb89 has quit IRC13:22
*** anteaya has quit IRC13:22
*** abramley has quit IRC13:22
*** andreykurilin has quit IRC13:22
*** lennyb has quit IRC13:22
*** laurelm has quit IRC13:22
*** kevinbenton has quit IRC13:22
*** crinkle has quit IRC13:22
*** anderstj has quit IRC13:22
*** ionutbalutoiu has quit IRC13:22
*** coreycb has quit IRC13:22
*** tellesnobrega_af has quit IRC13:22
*** timrc has quit IRC13:22
*** vipul has quit IRC13:22
*** morgan has quit IRC13:22
*** morgabra has quit IRC13:22
*** aignatov has quit IRC13:22
*** freerunner has quit IRC13:22
*** pshige______ has quit IRC13:22
*** htruta has quit IRC13:22
*** gothicmindfood has quit IRC13:22
*** dulek has quit IRC13:22
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC13:22
*** cznewt has quit IRC13:22
*** jaypipes has quit IRC13:22
*** lpetrut has quit IRC13:22
*** speller has quit IRC13:22
*** hoangcx has quit IRC13:22
*** sheel has quit IRC13:22
*** sheeprine has quit IRC13:22
*** anilvenkata has quit IRC13:22
*** liamji has quit IRC13:22
*** greghaynes has quit IRC13:22
*** mrunge has quit IRC13:22
*** efried has quit IRC13:22
*** xek has quit IRC13:22
*** jamespd has quit IRC13:22
*** vuntz has quit IRC13:22
*** aspiers has quit IRC13:22
*** zhonghua-lee has quit IRC13:22
*** devananda has quit IRC13:22
*** skraynev has quit IRC13:22
*** cargonza has quit IRC13:22
*** edwarnicke has quit IRC13:22
*** fungi has quit IRC13:22
*** gsilvis_ has quit IRC13:22
*** cFouts has quit IRC13:22
*** sambetts has quit IRC13:22
*** russellb has quit IRC13:22
*** roaet_ has quit IRC13:22
*** med_ has quit IRC13:22
*** slagle has quit IRC13:22
*** floppee has quit IRC13:22
*** obondarev has quit IRC13:22
*** yassine__ has quit IRC13:22
*** matrohon has quit IRC13:22
*** vmud213 has quit IRC13:22
*** number80 has quit IRC13:22
*** grumpycatt has quit IRC13:22
*** rbowen has quit IRC13:22
*** alpha_ori has quit IRC13:22
*** niedbalski has quit IRC13:22
*** jrist has quit IRC13:22
*** bauzas has quit IRC13:22
*** zaro has quit IRC13:22
*** jlvillal has quit IRC13:22
*** bogdando has quit IRC13:22
*** arif-ali has quit IRC13:22
*** rhagarty__ has quit IRC13:22
*** castulo has quit IRC13:22
*** nijaba has quit IRC13:22
*** lmiccini has quit IRC13:22
*** finchd has quit IRC13:22
*** jcook has quit IRC13:22
*** j_king_ has quit IRC13:22
*** ekarlso- has quit IRC13:22
*** kragniz has quit IRC13:22
*** NikitaKonovalov has quit IRC13:22
*** francois has quit IRC13:22
*** lxsli has quit IRC13:22
*** timfreund has quit IRC13:22
*** dougshelley66 has quit IRC13:22
*** jraim_ is now known as jraim13:22
*** mrvinti_ is now known as mrvinti13:22
*** eglute has joined #openstack-meeting13:23
*** dani_castellanos has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** IgorYozhikov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sankarsh` has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** topol_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dimtruck has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jklare_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dtroyer_zz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** adahms has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** amitgandhinz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** neelashah has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** iceyao has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pfreund_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** darrenc_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dougwig_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sballe__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** xgerman_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ociuhandu_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lezbar__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nadya_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** synegi has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Akis_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zzxwill has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** igordcard has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cznewt has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cschulz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** elynn has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** haiwei has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dneary has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** julim has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** obondarev has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Yanyanhu has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** baoli_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** fzdarsky has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** xyang1 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** erlon has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pradk has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jlwhite has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aysyd has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cdelatte has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ygbo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jaypipes has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** MaxPC has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** weshay has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rtheis has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Qiming has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rodrigods has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** numan_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** speller has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hoangcx has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sdague has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** allen_gao has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Liuqing has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** yifei has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** yassine__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hashar has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nmagnezi has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hdaniel has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sheel has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pcaruana has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ndipanov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** irenab has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** egallen has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** akaszuba has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pots1 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sheeprine has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** paul-carlton1 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** yuval has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** anilvenkata has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Poornima has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nkrinner has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ryu25 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rcernin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** elopez has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gcb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ricolin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** neeti|Training has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** r-mibu has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dane_leblanc has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** vmud213 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** alex_xu has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sekrit has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bzhao has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** liamji has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nelsnelson has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rhedlind has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zqfan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** eric_lopez has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dmowrer has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** trozet has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dasm has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hurricanerix has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ski2 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** number80 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** greghaynes has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** vishwanathj has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rvasilets has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** myoung has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** grumpycatt has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mrunge has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tjcocozz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zul has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rbowen has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bswartz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** efried has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** marcusvrn_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** marios has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** SotK has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mdavidson has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** wznoinsk has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** alpha_ori has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** taron has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** reedip__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** grassass has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lbeliveau has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** niedbalski has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** egarbade- has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** samueldmq has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jtomasek has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** xek has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jamespd has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** liusheng has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** yantarou has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bapalm has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aeng has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nonameentername has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Fdaisuke has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** amit213 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pfallenop has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** vuntz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** thekingofbandit has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** stevemar has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gongysh has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aspiers has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** liqw has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** darvon has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jrist has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ominakov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bauzas has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zhonghua-lee has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** fbo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** harlowja has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** blogan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** devananda has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** philipw has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** guitarzan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cbader has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dims has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** niska has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** BeanZhang has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Douhet has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kbyrne has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** luisfdez has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kmARC has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mtreinish has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** asselin_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** briancline has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sileht has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ajiang has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sreshetnyak has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bhakta has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zaro has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** smurke has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hogepodge has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** duvarenkov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** skarn has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dstanek has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Guest22202 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** redrobot has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jlvillal has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** skraynev has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** akamyshnikova has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** beekhof has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lazy_prince has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ktrmzn has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** amitry has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** serverascode has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cargonza has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** fmccrthy has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** beagles has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bogdando has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** peterstac has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aorourke_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** onovy has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pkoniszewski has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dmellado has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ogelbukh has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zxiiro has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** krotscheck has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** arif-ali has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rhagarty__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jeblair has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ajo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dixiaoli_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Daviey_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bryan_att has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** simonmcc has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** siva_krishnan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pleia2 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Clint has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gibi has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sambetts has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hugokuo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** joearnold has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** geguileo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mathiasb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** edwarnicke has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ityaptin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dgonzalez has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mkoderer__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rakhmerov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rmk has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** raginbajin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** htruta has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** amakarov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** haneef has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** docaedo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** skath_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zhiyan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mmotiani has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jasondotstar has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sigmavirus24_awa has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** melwitt has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** craige has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** akuznetsova has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** adam_g has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** fungi has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** _matthias_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** thomasem_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kprabhuv- has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ryanpetrello has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gsilvis_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hazmat has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hockeynut has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** phschwartz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** flip214 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cFouts has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Nakato has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ChrisPriceAB has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kozhukalov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zaneb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** rods has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** _RuiChen has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lifeless has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** castulo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pumaranikar has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** toan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aleksandr_null has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nijaba has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lmiccini has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mkoderer has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cgross has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tlbr has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Guest88568 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cgoncalves has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** andreykurilin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** flaper87 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gmann has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** afazekas has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** intr1nsic has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** anthonyper has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** masayukig has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ttrifonov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pedroalvarez has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dteselkin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** finchd has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** fernnest_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** persia has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** DuncanT has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** clayton has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ianychoi has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** homerp has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** carl_baldwin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ashtokolov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ildikov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** vmbrasseur has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** llu has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** nurla has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** odyssey4me has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** netapp has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aloga has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zehicle_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** peterlisak has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** alaski has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tristanC has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mrhillsman has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** luzC has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jvrbanac has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ameade has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** elmiko has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kencjohnston has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dolphm has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mestery has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pots has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** _alastor_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mordred has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jcook has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dansmith has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pcarver has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** j_king_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ahale has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** russellb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** beisner has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ekarlso- has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ianw has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bdperkin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** boris-42 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Swanson has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Kiall has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bnemec has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** yarkot has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tdasilva has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** krugg has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jgriffith has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** _fortis has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** doffm has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** Zara has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** otherwiseguy has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** larainema has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jamespage has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** huats_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kmartin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** andreaf has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** reed has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** galstrom_zzz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mikal has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ukinau- has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** etoews has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lbragstad has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jogo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cebruns has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** njohnston has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** raildo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sonus has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bradjones has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** timothyb89 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jokke_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** anteaya has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** SergeyLukjanov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** johnthetubaguy has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jroll has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** roaet_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lsell has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aerwin3 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** amrith has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mugsie has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dosaboy has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** haleyb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dabukalam has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** wbhuber has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sirushti has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pmath has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** isq_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** cschwede has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hughhalf has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** thingee has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** CaptTofu has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** EmilienM has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jesusaur has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** itsuugo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** clarkb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** toddjohn_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** abramley has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** andreykurilin__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** trey has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gerhardqux has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** hemna has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** egon has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** notmyname has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** reedip has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** edleafe has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** soren has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** j^2 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** med_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kragniz has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** DinaBelova has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** NikitaKonovalov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ptoohill has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lekha has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** wolsen has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tris has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** frickler has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** francois has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** stevebaker has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** slagle has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jd__ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** freerunner has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** HenryG has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** breton has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tonyb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** markvan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** john5223 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lxsli has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** lennyb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** laurelm has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** radez has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ttx has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** briancurtin has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** sneti has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** floppee has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** navidp has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** SpamapS has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** kevinbenton has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pl0pix has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aarefiev has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** amandap has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** crinkle has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bknudson has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** timfreund has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** smcginnis has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dougshelley66 has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** anderstj has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** ionutbalutoiu has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** coreycb has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** zigo has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** tellesnobrega_af has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** timrc has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** vipul has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** morgabra has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** morgan has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** bkero has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mrodden has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** aignatov has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** loquacities has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** purp has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** pshige______ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** jhesketh has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** gothicmindfood has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** dulek has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
Qimingam I still alive?13:24
haiweiQiming, yes13:24
elynnQiming: Yes.13:24
*** jraim has quit IRC13:24
*** jraim has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
*** mrvinti has quit IRC13:24
*** mrvinti has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
Qiminghello, world!13:24
*** xgerman_ is now known as xgerman13:24
*** openstackstatus has quit IRC13:24
*** mgagne_ has quit IRC13:24
*** mgagne_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:24
Qimingokay, ping you tomorrow morning 10am bejing time?13:24
*** sballe__ is now known as sballe_13:24
haiweiok, I will draw a graph and mail to you13:24
Qimingwe can have a quick call on this13:24
haiweiI am fine with it13:25
Qimingmy whole afternoon is about ...s..h...i..t meeting13:25
Yanyanhume too. But I'm only free on Friday13:25
*** leifz has joined #openstack-meeting13:25
Yanyanhuhave visa review on Thursday13:25
Qimingoh, xinhui sent me a text this evening13:25
YanyanhuQiming, our patent review is on wednesday?13:26
Qimingshe wants me to talk to vmware chief architect about senlin13:26
Qimingwill do that on Friday morning13:26
haiweiso your budget is ok, Yanyanhu?13:26
*** pfreund_ is now known as pfreund13:26
Yanyanhuhaiwei, yes, but I'm a little worried about the visa13:26
Qimingwill update you if we have some outcomes from the discussion13:26
*** openstackstatus has joined #openstack-meeting13:26
*** ChanServ sets mode: +v openstackstatus13:26
haiweiI am also waiting for the visa13:26
Qiming#topic newton work items13:27
*** openstack changes topic to "newton work items (Meeting topic: senlin)"13:27
Qiming#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-newton-workitems13:27
*** spotz_zzz has joined #openstack-meeting13:27
*** amitry has quit IRC13:27
*** agireud has joined #openstack-meeting13:27
Yanyanhuif the application go into administrative processing, it costs at least 3 weeks...13:27
QimingI pinged china mobile, hopefully we can schedule a meeting on scalability testing and experience sharing13:27
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC13:27
YanyanhuQiming, cool13:28
Yanyanhuthat's very helpful13:28
*** ericksonsantos has joined #openstack-meeting13:28
Qimingelynn, tempest infra is ready?13:28
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting13:28
Qimingremoving line 813:28
*** jdob has joined #openstack-meeting13:28
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting13:29
elynnInitial patch is ready for review.13:29
*** dougwig_ is now known as dougwig13:29
*** whenry has joined #openstack-meeting13:29
*** madorn has joined #openstack-meeting13:29
elynnJust feel free to +-113:29
Qimingdid I +2 it?13:29
elynnNot yet.13:29
*** cloudnull has joined #openstack-meeting13:29
Qimingah, will check again13:29
QimingI think Mark's suggestion is a good one13:30
elynnThe rest of it would be move the functional tests to it and add negative tests.13:30
Qimingwas waiting for your response13:30
elynnQiming: Yes, but I'm haven't find a way to generate a tempest config file...13:30
*** jdurgin has joined #openstack-meeting13:30
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting13:31
Qimingthat is easy13:31
*** amitry has joined #openstack-meeting13:31
Qimingjust a separate conf file for oslo.config generator13:31
Qimingthen you specify where the output will be placed13:31
Qimingcheck the tools/ subdir13:31
Qimingthere is the conf file for senlin as a whole13:32
elynnIf we generate it under senlin repo, can I get the options from tempest?13:32
Qimingfor tempest, you may need just one or two modules I believe13:32
Qimingyou can try that, not 100% sure13:32
elynnwell, I will have to try.13:33
haiweiwhat options?13:33
elynnWill seek your help if you have time :)13:33
Qiminganyway we will have dependency on tempest because we are using its plugin/lib13:33
Qimingso we can certainly reference its module when generating conf file13:33
Qiming#action Elynn to sync with Qiming on tempest conf file generation13:34
*** yamamoto has quit IRC13:34
*** mmuppidi has joined #openstack-meeting13:34
elynnBut I don't see other project add tempest to their requirements.txt.13:34
*** mmuppidi has quit IRC13:34
Qimingsince xinhui is not online today, we can skip the health management part13:34
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting13:34
Qimingit should be in test-requirements.txt13:35
Qimingwe do have 'from tempest import blablah' right?13:35
elynnOh, I see...13:35
*** links has quit IRC13:35
elynnWill update my patch :)13:35
Qimingxinhui told me that she is looking into the fencing support13:35
Qiminghopefully she can make some progress this coming week13:36
Yanyanhuelynn, Qiming, can we have a f2f talk tomorrow to sync our understanding on tempest and rally?13:36
*** Kiall has quit IRC13:36
Qiming+1 from me13:36
Yanyanhuor a call13:36
elynnMorning or afternoon are both ok for me Yanyanhu.13:36
*** trozet has quit IRC13:37
Qimingmaybe starbucks time again?13:37
elynnBut noon is not...13:37
Yanyanhuok, let me try to arrange a phone call tomorrow morning13:37
*** Kiall has joined #openstack-meeting13:37
Qimingjust allocated 10am-11am to haiwei13:37
Yanyanhumaybe at 10:30 am?13:37
elynnHave a training at 12~13 oclock.13:37
*** liamji has quit IRC13:37
Qimingmy whole afternoon was occupied as well13:38
*** trozet has joined #openstack-meeting13:38
Qimingthen 9am?13:38
Yanyanhua little early for me...13:38
Yanyanhumaybe 11:00 to 11:20?13:38
elynn9 is ok for me.13:38
Yanyanhujust after the call with haiwei13:38
elynnI don't think it will take much time.13:38
Qimingthat's fine13:38
Yanyanhusince I will also join that call as well13:38
Yanyanhujust a quick talk will be ok13:39
QimingI suggest we spend more time on studying rally13:39
YanyanhuQiming, sure, just try to sync our understanding13:39
Qimingbefore the meeting to make the meetings more efficient13:39
Qimingbut anyway13:39
Qiming11:00am okay for me13:39
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting13:40
Qimingno documentation progress update from me13:40
QimingAPI microversioning is already in13:40
Qimingcschulz, any thing to share from you?13:41
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting13:41
*** sheel has quit IRC13:41
Qimingsemi-autoscaling and zaqar support13:41
cschulzI've gotten through the IBM administration stuff to contribute.  So can do that now.13:41
cschulzBeen working with Zaqar some. to become familiar.13:42
elynnThat's great!13:42
cschulzI'd like to have a talk with you about contribution.  Can we have a call?13:42
*** annegentle has quit IRC13:42
cschulzChoose a time I'll be available.13:42
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
*** spzala has quit IRC13:43
Qimingsure, feel free to schedule a call :)13:43
cschulzOK.  Your morning OK?13:43
Qimingnot tomorrow13:43
Qimingyou can check my calendar availability13:43
cschulzOK Thurs. maybe.13:43
QimingThusday morning good for me13:44
Qiming#topic open discussions13:44
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussions (Meeting topic: senlin)"13:44
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting13:45
Qimingany thing, from anyone?13:45
Qimingwe have 15 minutes to complain about visa now, ;)13:45
haiweihi, guys, I want to quit earlier today, just got a cold13:46
elynn...Hope I can pass...13:46
Yanyanhuhaiwei, have a good rest13:46
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting13:46
Yanyanhuelynn, me too13:46
*** Poornima has quit IRC13:46
Qimingsure, haiwei, good night13:46
haiweii am worrying visa tooo13:46
Qimingit's late for you13:46
haiweisee u13:46
Yanyanhuhaiwei, it should be ok for U I think13:46
*** rderose has joined #openstack-meeting13:46
elynnhaiwei: have a good night13:46
*** haiwei has quit IRC13:46
*** bobh_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:47
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC13:47
YanyanhuI'm little worried because my college13:47
Yanyanhuanyway, good luck for me13:47
Qimingjust tell them you are from beihang, not BUAA13:47
Yanyanhuand for elynn as well :)13:47
elynngood luck for us13:47
Yanyanhuyes, I write it in my resume13:47
Qimingelynn has the same problem?13:47
Yanyanhubut they know it, you know13:48
*** xiaohhui has joined #openstack-meeting13:48
Yanyanhuhe doesn't :)13:48
elynnNo, my university is not that good :P13:48
*** xiangxinyong456 has joined #openstack-meeting13:49
*** salv-orl_ has quit IRC13:49
*** nmagnezi has quit IRC13:49
Qimingseriously, anything else you want to talk about?13:49
*** nmagnezi has joined #openstack-meeting13:49
*** annegentle has quit IRC13:50
Yanyanhunope from me13:50
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC13:50
elynnIs newton starts?13:50
cschulzNothing here13:50
Qimingwe can call it a day if no13:50
Qimingyes, master is already about newton13:50
Qimingthis week is the last one before mitaka release13:50
Qimingthanks gusy13:51
elynnok, got it13:51
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"13:51
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 13:51:18 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:51
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2016/senlin.2016-04-05-13.00.html13:51
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2016/senlin.2016-04-05-13.00.txt13:51
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2016/senlin.2016-04-05-13.00.log.html13:51
*** cschulz has left #openstack-meeting13:51
*** AndroUser has joined #openstack-meeting13:51
*** dingboopt has joined #openstack-meeting13:51
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting13:51
*** saggi has joined #openstack-meeting13:52
*** Yanyanhu has quit IRC13:53
*** MarkAtwood has joined #openstack-meeting13:53
*** tonytan4ever has joined #openstack-meeting13:54
*** spotz_zzz is now known as spotz13:54
*** balajiiyer has joined #openstack-meeting13:54
*** AndroUser is now known as zhangshuai13:55
*** mbound has quit IRC13:55
*** krtaylor has quit IRC13:56
*** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus2413:56
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting13:57
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting13:58
*** gampel has joined #openstack-meeting13:58
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting13:58
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting13:58
*** askb has joined #openstack-meeting13:58
*** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting13:59
*** sverma has joined #openstack-meeting13:59
*** jlwhite has quit IRC14:00
*** saggi has left #openstack-meeting14:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC14:01
*** dell_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:01
*** Zhongjun has joined #openstack-meeting14:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting14:01
*** rbak has joined #openstack-meeting14:01
*** rdopiera has joined #openstack-meeting14:01
*** dell_ is now known as zengchen14:01
*** Qiming has left #openstack-meeting14:01
*** annegentle has quit IRC14:02
*** saggi has joined #openstack-meeting14:02
saggiwas in the wrong room by mistake14:03
saggi#startmeeting smaug14:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 14:03:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is saggi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: smaug)"14:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'smaug'14:03
zengchenhi, everyone14:03
*** chenying_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:03
saggihow is everybody14:03
*** rdopiera has left #openstack-meeting14:03
*** xiangxinyong has joined #openstack-meeting14:03
*** knikolla has joined #openstack-meeting14:03
saggiAre we waiting for anyone?14:04
gampelHi everyone14:04
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting14:04
zengchenis yinwei online?14:05
saggiwith two accounts14:05
saggiI pinged her14:06
saggiLet's start14:06
saggi#topic Announcements14:06
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: smaug)"14:06
saggiAPI is finally in14:07
*** elynn has quit IRC14:07
saggiBut there are still some issues. Will have fixes for it up today.14:07
gampelwe still need to merge the operation log API14:07
*** xiangxinyong456 has quit IRC14:07
*** busterswt has joined #openstack-meeting14:07
saggiI will have updates for that up too14:08
*** xiangxinyong456 has joined #openstack-meeting14:08
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting14:08
chenying_There are some comments about the operation log api14:08
saggiThat's it for announcements just wanted to celebrate :)14:08
saggi#topic Operation Log14:08
*** openstack changes topic to "Operation Log (Meeting topic: smaug)"14:08
gampel#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298060/14:09
saggiAbout the operation log. I saw the comments.14:09
xiangxinyongsaggi, i submit some comments in this agenda14:09
xiangxinyongDoes it include protect with schedule, protect without schedule and delete?14:09
saggiWithout schedule there will be no operation.14:10
*** dani_castellanos is now known as lcastell14:10
saggiYou will just track the checkpoint.14:10
*** chenzeng has joined #openstack-meeting14:10
chenying_IMO operation log is created when call protect/delete rpc interface.14:10
saggiSince checkpoints have built in progress information.14:10
*** dasm has left #openstack-meeting14:10
chenying_checkpoints have built in progress information YES.14:11
gampelSo we do not include the checkpoint ID created in the log14:11
saggiThe log of a protect operation should include the checkpoint it created.14:11
saggiAnd delete should have all the checkpoints it deleted.14:12
chenying_what about delete action?14:12
xiangxinyongsaggi, we think we need to create a operation log in the protect and delete action14:12
*** yinweimac has joined #openstack-meeting14:12
saggibut after a protect\delete request is made the information is tracked on the entity. This is because the entities can all be scheduled independently.14:12
saggiInside the checkpoint?14:13
saggiIt will have to be in the bank14:13
*** rderose has quit IRC14:13
yinweimachi, sorry for late14:13
*** nadya_ has quit IRC14:13
saggichenying: We will need to think about it.14:13
gampelHi yinwei14:13
xiangxinyongBut when we restore a checkpoint and delete a checkpoint, how to express it?14:14
gampelI think on delete we need to add some metadata of the deleted checkpoint14:14
saggiWe do that.14:14
saggiApart from changing it's status14:14
saggiBut we don't have logs now. Just changed state.14:14
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting14:14
saggiSince logs are very complicated to do on an object store.14:15
xiangxinyongsaggi: do you consider to add a indepent operation log to show the progress?14:15
*** mbound has joined #openstack-meeting14:15
xiangxinyongsaggi: we think the checkpoint status is different form the protect and delete or restore14:15
xiangxinyongwhat's your opinion?14:16
saggixiangxinyong: It also contains failure information and progress about each resource.14:16
gampelwhats the difference ?14:16
saggibut it doesn't contain a message log.14:16
xiangxinyongbecause the protect and delete and restore are a workflow14:16
xiangxinyongthe protect and delete should have a workflow like restore14:17
*** banix has quit IRC14:17
xiangxinyongcheckpoint is just a target14:17
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting14:17
gampelwhat else do you think we should report other then  status and % progress per resource14:17
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting14:18
saggiWe also put error information14:18
xiangxinyongwhen we protect a checkpoint and delete a checkpoint at the same time,14:18
chenying_when is operation log db data created?   before  a protect\delete action rpc request?14:19
xiangxinyongit is diffult to disguish the status14:19
gampelxiangxinyong: the UI could do the match of the operation log and the operation status metadata in the checkpoint14:19
*** pzc has joined #openstack-meeting14:19
gampelThe checkpoint will be locked by the protect and you will not be able to delete it until it is done ?14:20
saggiI think we should take it offline. chenying and xiangxinyong please write an email explaining what use cases are not covered and we will try and converge on a solution. If we see it requires more planning we will schedule a meeting just for this. OK?14:20
gampelsound good to me14:20
saggiYou could also comment on the operation log patches if you think it's relevant there14:20
saggichenying, xiangxinyong: ok?14:20
chenying_Ok I will review the patch.14:20
*** banix has quit IRC14:21
*** julim has quit IRC14:21
xiangxinyongok. saggi.14:21
gampelwe found today we are missing name in the protactable API14:21
saggigampel: I am sending a patch for it later today14:21
chenying_Let me see14:21
*** hunter has joined #openstack-meeting14:21
saggifor the API14:21
sagginot the actual implementation14:22
*** hunter is now known as Guest1387914:22
saggiWe are also missing the API to get dependencies.14:22
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting14:22
gampelOk good we found that it missing today reviewing  the UI with xiangxinyong14:22
saggixiangxinyong also commented on the dependencies api missing.14:23
*** merooney has quit IRC14:23
saggi#topic Protectables status14:23
*** openstack changes topic to "Protectables status (Meeting topic: smaug)"14:23
yuvalRegarding protectables:14:23
yuvalwe already have merged server, image, volume protectables14:23
yuvalstill missing: network and project protectable14:23
yinweimacyuval, will you address the image ,volume protectable bug?14:24
yuvalyinweimac: what bug?14:24
*** sverma has quit IRC14:24
yinweimacthe dangling volume and image issue, I mean14:24
gampelwhich bug can you sjare the link14:24
yinweimacI haven't fired the bug, but I suppose we have discussed this issue14:24
yinweimaclet's confirm this is an issue first14:25
yinweimacyuval, what do you think?14:25
*** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting14:25
yuvalare you speaking about volume and image which are unattached to servers?14:26
*** tellesnobrega_af is now known as tellesnobrega14:27
*** singhj has quit IRC14:27
gampelI think that we are missing the project protactabole , but what yinwei mean is that when the  parent is projcet we shoudl return all the resources in vol , image etc14:27
yinweimacbut user chooses project as protection plan resources14:27
yuvalwould that be fixed once we will add a project protectable and add the dependency?14:27
yinweimacI don't think so14:27
*** ricolin has quit IRC14:27
yinweimacit's image and volume protectable business14:27
gampelwe need to add the dependency in all the other protectable14:27
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting14:28
yuvalyinweimac: I understand14:28
*** zhang2005 has joined #openstack-meeting14:28
yinweimacjust test parent is project, and return any images/volumes under this project will do14:28
yinweimacit would be a simple fix14:29
*** achanda has joined #openstack-meeting14:29
yuvalI'll handle the project protectable and dangling image/volume14:29
yinweimacok, so we have confirmed this will be fixed by yuval, right?14:29
yuvalwho will handle the network protectable?14:29
gampelI think that we need to decide if this is this is the desire flow (select  project return all the resources in that project )14:29
yinweimacwhy not?14:30
saggiIt might be too cluttered for the user. It's a UI issue in the end but maybe we would want to group by type under project. What do you think xiangxinyong?14:30
*** nelsnels_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:30
*** toscalix has quit IRC14:30
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC14:30
saggiIf the user has thousands of volumes it might just be too much.14:31
yinweimacit depends14:31
yuvalsaggi: this affects rest api as well as UI14:31
*** vmud213 has quit IRC14:31
yinweimacuser could only choose some volumes14:31
gampelIt means that if you select the Project you will protect ever thing14:31
yinweimaclike user only choose volumes by tag14:32
xiangxinyongsaggi: we can get the resource step by step14:32
yinweimacyes, if you select the project we protect everythin14:32
yinweimacif you select some of the volumes, we only protect them14:32
xiangxinyongsaggi:we can also get the resouce in a time14:32
gampelI think that we should in the UI make it a special option to select the all project resources14:32
saggiThe problem is that if you don't protect the project you loose tenant information.14:32
*** nelsnelson has quit IRC14:33
*** edtubill has joined #openstack-meeting14:33
gampelWe should all ways protect keystone as dependency14:33
yinweimacwhy? I saw chenying made checkpoint under tenant14:33
saggiLike username\password which you might want in the restored environment.14:33
xiangxinyonggampel: now if select a root keystone project, the all dependent resources will be selected14:34
gampelBut only if it is selected in the tree explicitly then it will be added as you said14:34
saggiWhat do we even back up in project?14:34
*** asingh has joined #openstack-meeting14:34
gampelBut if we do not select it it will be added as dependency  of any resource14:34
*** aranjan has joined #openstack-meeting14:34
gampelNot sure probably the Region info14:35
saggiMaybe we would make it an empty backup and have any real information as child of project. This means selecting the actual project actually means back up everything.14:35
yinweimacwhy do we need that14:35
*** jlwhite has joined #openstack-meeting14:35
*** aranjan has quit IRC14:35
gampelyou mean have keystone resource and Project as two different items in the tree ?14:36
yinweimacthe keystone info could be input param as the restore api14:36
*** pzchen has joined #openstack-meeting14:36
*** aranjan has joined #openstack-meeting14:36
yinweimacI mean why do we need save keystone info? for restore?14:36
saggiSince we don't see any information on the project we could leave things as they are since there is no reason to backup a project other than to backup everything. If we find information we want we could have it as a child of project. This means we don't have to change anything now. What do you guys think?14:37
saggiyinweimac: Yes, maybe there is tenant information we want to restore. I can't think of something now but I think my suggestion solves both cases.14:37
gampelI agree who is  going to do the Keystone protection plugin and investigate this14:37
*** cdub has joined #openstack-meeting14:37
*** asingh has quit IRC14:38
yinweimacconfirm: select a project will or will not protect all resources under it?14:38
*** achanda has quit IRC14:39
*** _d34dh0r53_ is now known as d34dh0r5314:39
gampelNo i think the other way around14:39
*** pzc has quit IRC14:39
xiangxinyongi think it will not14:39
yinweimacthen how to choose all resources of a project to be protected?14:40
saggiWhat I suggested means that it does protect all resources.14:40
gampelif I understand  @saggi suggestion is that when selecting a project all the resources in the projcet will be backed up14:40
yuvalI understood that also14:40
saggiI just suggested that if we see information we need for restore we will create child resource for it.14:40
gampelAssuming we do not need to protect any think for Project14:41
gampelwho is  going to do the Keystone protection plugin and investigate this ?14:41
saggikeystone::project -> keystone::ZoneInfo14:41
yinweimaclet me check it with chenzeng&chenhuayi14:41
saggiWhich will leave all behavior normalized14:41
gampelOk great14:41
yinweimacbut we need confirm more details about this14:42
yinweimacwhat to be protected here14:42
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting14:42
gampelyes that's the research need to be done14:42
yinweimacconfirm again: select a project will protect all resources under it14:42
*** cdub_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:42
*** cdub has quit IRC14:42
yinweimacso yuval will still adress the bug there?14:43
yuvalthe dangling volume/image? yes14:43
*** xingchao has quit IRC14:43
yinweimacnetwork protectable needs to be reworked14:43
yinweimacbut wangliuan is working on integration test of protection service, chenzeng will help here14:44
yinweimacand based on our latest discussion, the complexity is in network protection plugin14:44
gampelchenzeng need to finish the operation engine patches14:44
gampelthey are blocking some of the API patches14:44
*** aimon has joined #openstack-meeting14:45
zhonghua-leeyinweimac:it seems chenhuayi works on network protectable14:45
yinweimacok, chenhuayi is willing to help here14:45
*** mdenny has joined #openstack-meeting14:45
zhonghua-leebut he is not here now14:45
yinweimachuayi contacted with me today14:45
saggiIt looks like we moved to tactical stuff. Lets move to the next subject.14:45
yinweimacI told him I still need confirm details with saggi and eranl14:45
saggiyinweimac: I trust you'll coordinate with everyone about the network protectable14:45
yinweimacwill try14:46
gampelthank you14:46
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting14:46
*** rebase has joined #openstack-meeting14:46
saggi#topic CI14:46
*** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: smaug)"14:46
saggiWho is working on it?14:46
yuvalI submitted a patch to make smaug python3 compatible14:47
gampelI think we need fullstack that will do protect and check the status on the checkpoint14:47
chenying_you mean integration testing?14:47
*** mickeys has quit IRC14:47
gampelyes fullstack on the api level14:47
xiangxinyongi agree14:47
saggichenying: automatic tests on gerrit14:47
yinweimacliuan is working on the manual integration test, but protection service only14:48
gampelwho ever is going to work on it I can show example how we did it in other projects14:48
gampelwe could start with protection only14:48
*** sheel has joined #openstack-meeting14:49
chenying_I can work on it.14:49
chenying_Maybe need some help from eran.14:49
saggiDo you have any spare time?14:49
gampelno problem lets talk about it offline tomorrow morning14:49
yinweimacLiuan could work for it as well14:49
yinweimacI will ask him14:49
saggiLet's make it a point to check for progress next bi-weekly14:50
saggi#topic Progress report14:50
*** openstack changes topic to "Progress report (Meeting topic: smaug)"14:50
gampelxiangxinyong: will you be able to share screen-cast of the UI so every one could comment14:50
*** singhj has quit IRC14:50
saggiJust in time gampel14:50
xiangxinyongby email?14:50
xiangxinyonggampel: or some ways?14:51
gampelYou could sent it to devstack mailing list14:51
saggixiangxinyong has done a lot of work on the UI. We would like as many people to tell us what they think about it.14:51
saggixiangxinyong, is it in a state where people can test it locally?14:51
zengcheni am updating the time trigger and two apis. this week i hope they can be merged.14:51
gampelso we could get feedback  from the OpenStack community14:51
*** Leo_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:52
xiangxinyongsaggi: i will do as soon as possible14:52
saggixiangxinyong: great!14:52
*** zeih has quit IRC14:52
xiangxinyong<gampel> we found today we are missing name in the protactable API14:53
xiangxinyong<saggi> xiangxinyong also commented on the dependencies api missing.14:53
xiangxinyongThanks gampel and saggi.14:53
xiangxinyongThey are two important functions.14:53
*** rderose has joined #openstack-meeting14:53
gampelPlease everyone help with the reviews of all the open patches14:53
saggixiangxinyong: Will have API patches for that later today.14:53
saggi# Open Discussion14:53
xiangxinyongby the way. i have another questions to discuss it14:53
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting14:53
*** zhangshuai has quit IRC14:53
*** jlanoux has quit IRC14:54
xiangxinyongi think we need to add Parameters to every resource in the create plan api14:54
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting14:54
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:54
*** zhangshuai has joined #openstack-meeting14:54
yuvalwhat does 'consistency' mean in that context?14:54
xiangxinyongplease take a look at it.http://paste.openstack.org/show/492976/14:54
xiangxinyongeran and saggi, do you agree?14:55
saggixiangxinyong: currently parameters can also be defined for a type14:55
gampelYou mean local if set and global as override ?14:55
chenying_If it is affirmed, I will update the patch.14:55
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting14:56
saggixiangxinyong: The reason we didn't do it originally is because we thought the UI for it will be confusing.14:56
xiangxinyongbecause we need to edit every resource's parameters in the ui14:56
gampelor do you mean moving them into the resource >>14:56
*** merooney has quit IRC14:56
xiangxinyongyeah, move them into the resources14:57
*** sdake has quit IRC14:57
*** galstrom_zzz is now known as galstrom14:57
gampelsaggi: why not ?14:57
xiangxinyongbecause we need specify parameters for evevy resource14:57
saggixiangxinyong: Currently defining it outside of the resource make them default for auto discovered resources.14:57
*** martines has joined #openstack-meeting14:57
chenying_IMO I do not think every resource has its own parameters.14:57
gampelBut if we set some thing for a spesific resource it should be set there14:58
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting14:58
xiangxinyongsaggi: you mean the outside parameters are the default value14:58
xiangxinyongi agree14:59
saggixiangxinyong: Yes14:59
xiangxinyongbut we need specify in the speicail resouces. is it right?14:59
gampelIt seem we need the parameters in the resource if selectd and outside as default14:59
saggixiangxinyong: And also you will need to do it a bit differently. since you can't put it inside the resource map since it breaks the type signiture.14:59
yinweimactimes out14:59
*** jlwhite has quit IRC14:59
gampelwe are running out of time15:00
gampelsaggi will you define this for xiangxinyong:15:00
*** jlwhite has joined #openstack-meeting15:00
saggixiangxinyong: The idea is good but needs some adjustments.15:00
xiangxinyongcould we discuss it in our chanel?15:00
yinweimaclet's switch back to smaug channel15:00
*** singhj has quit IRC15:00
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting15:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"15:00
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 15:00:27 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/smaug/2016/smaug.2016-04-05-14.03.html15:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/smaug/2016/smaug.2016-04-05-14.03.txt15:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/smaug/2016/smaug.2016-04-05-14.03.log.html15:00
gampelsure thanks everyone15:00
*** zengchen has quit IRC15:01
*** mkoderer__ has quit IRC15:02
*** aranjan has quit IRC15:02
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC15:03
*** cloudtra_ has joined #openstack-meeting15:03
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting15:04
*** nkrinner has quit IRC15:04
*** annegentle has quit IRC15:05
*** pcaruana has quit IRC15:06
*** tellesnobrega is now known as tellesnobrega_af15:06
*** lblanchard has quit IRC15:07
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting15:07
*** garthb has joined #openstack-meeting15:08
*** ItSANgo has joined #openstack-meeting15:08
*** singhj has quit IRC15:09
*** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting15:10
*** saggi has left #openstack-meeting15:11
*** iceyao has quit IRC15:11
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting15:12
*** markvoelker has quit IRC15:12
*** cdub_ has quit IRC15:12
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting15:12
*** toscalix has quit IRC15:13
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting15:13
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting15:13
*** links has joined #openstack-meeting15:14
*** mkoderer__ has joined #openstack-meeting15:15
*** yinweimac has quit IRC15:16
*** zhang2005 has quit IRC15:16
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting15:17
*** harshs has joined #openstack-meeting15:17
*** aranjan has joined #openstack-meeting15:17
*** zhangshuai has quit IRC15:18
*** iyamahat has quit IRC15:18
*** karthikp has joined #openstack-meeting15:19
*** rderose has quit IRC15:19
*** toscalix has quit IRC15:20
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting15:20
*** Guest13879 has quit IRC15:20
*** gampel has left #openstack-meeting15:21
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting15:22
*** aranjan has quit IRC15:22
*** aranjan has joined #openstack-meeting15:23
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting15:24
*** merooney has quit IRC15:24
*** links has quit IRC15:25
*** zeih has quit IRC15:26
*** pzchen has quit IRC15:27
*** aranjan has quit IRC15:27
*** sdake_ has quit IRC15:27
*** aranjan has joined #openstack-meeting15:27
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting15:27
*** jlanoux has joined #openstack-meeting15:28
*** lpetrut has quit IRC15:28
*** cloudtra_ has quit IRC15:28
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting15:28
*** jdurgin1 has joined #openstack-meeting15:30
*** bvandenh has joined #openstack-meeting15:31
*** toscalix has quit IRC15:32
*** yuval has quit IRC15:34
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC15:34
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting15:34
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting15:35
*** aranjan has quit IRC15:35
*** armax has joined #openstack-meeting15:36
*** Liuqing has quit IRC15:38
*** vicos has joined #openstack-meeting15:38
*** toscalix has quit IRC15:39
*** armax has quit IRC15:41
*** tellesnobrega_af is now known as tellesnobrega15:41
*** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa15:43
*** sigmavirus24_awa is now known as sigmavirus2415:43
*** nadya has quit IRC15:45
*** cdub has joined #openstack-meeting15:47
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting15:48
*** toscalix has quit IRC15:48
*** ygbo has quit IRC15:48
*** vicos has quit IRC15:49
*** matrohon has quit IRC15:50
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting15:51
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting15:52
*** anilvenkata has quit IRC15:52
*** maeca has quit IRC15:52
*** fzdarsky has quit IRC15:54
*** Guest9417 has quit IRC15:54
*** sc68cal has joined #openstack-meeting15:55
*** asettle has quit IRC15:56
*** adahms has quit IRC15:57
*** neeti|Training has quit IRC15:58
*** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting15:59
*** sc68cal has quit IRC15:59
*** sc68cal has joined #openstack-meeting16:00
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting16:00
*** akaszuba has quit IRC16:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC16:01
*** john-davidge has joined #openstack-meeting16:01
*** aimon has quit IRC16:01
*** harshs has quit IRC16:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting16:01
*** tellesnobrega is now known as tellesnobrega_af16:02
*** kebray has joined #openstack-meeting16:02
*** ricolin has joined #openstack-meeting16:03
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting16:03
*** andymaier has quit IRC16:04
*** toscalix has quit IRC16:04
*** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting16:05
*** hashar has quit IRC16:05
*** john-davidge has quit IRC16:06
*** edleafe_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:06
*** rderose has joined #openstack-meeting16:06
*** unicell has quit IRC16:08
*** cdub has quit IRC16:10
*** toddjohn has quit IRC16:10
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting16:11
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting16:11
*** yamahata has quit IRC16:13
*** nmagnezi has quit IRC16:13
*** cshahani has joined #openstack-meeting16:13
*** toddjoh__ has joined #openstack-meeting16:15
*** toddjohn has quit IRC16:15
*** tellesnobrega_af is now known as tellesnobrega16:17
*** toddjoh__ has quit IRC16:19
*** apoorvad has joined #openstack-meeting16:19
*** apoorvad has quit IRC16:19
*** apoorvad has joined #openstack-meeting16:20
*** john-davidge has joined #openstack-meeting16:20
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting16:20
*** fawadkhaliq has joined #openstack-meeting16:21
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck16:22
*** fawadkhaliq has quit IRC16:22
*** numan_ has quit IRC16:25
*** banix has quit IRC16:27
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting16:28
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting16:29
*** rderose has quit IRC16:29
*** jmckind has quit IRC16:29
*** sambetts is now known as sambetts|afk16:29
*** dflorea_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:30
*** rderose has joined #openstack-meeting16:30
*** dflorea has quit IRC16:30
*** armax has joined #openstack-meeting16:30
*** piet has joined #openstack-meeting16:33
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting16:33
*** cshahani has quit IRC16:33
*** speller has quit IRC16:35
*** jschwarz has quit IRC16:35
*** jlanoux has quit IRC16:36
*** cloudtra_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:36
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting16:38
*** fernnest_ has quit IRC16:38
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC16:38
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting16:39
*** NikitaKonovalov_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:39
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC16:40
*** nisha has joined #openstack-meeting16:40
*** shashank_hegde has joined #openstack-meeting16:42
*** eharney has quit IRC16:42
*** eharney_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:42
*** mhickey has joined #openstack-meeting16:42
*** NikitaKonovalov_ has quit IRC16:44
*** NikitaKonovalov_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:44
*** cloudtra_ has quit IRC16:45
*** wendar_ is now known as wendar16:45
*** tsymanczyk has joined #openstack-meeting16:46
*** claudiub has quit IRC16:48
*** unicell has quit IRC16:48
*** mbound has quit IRC16:48
*** Zhongjun has quit IRC16:49
*** eharney_ is now known as eharney16:49
*** esker has quit IRC16:49
*** NikitaKonovalov_ has quit IRC16:51
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting16:51
*** sshnaidm has quit IRC16:53
*** brucet has joined #openstack-meeting16:53
*** mmuppidi has joined #openstack-meeting16:53
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting16:53
*** mickeys has quit IRC16:54
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting16:54
*** maeca has quit IRC16:55
*** mickeys has quit IRC16:55
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting16:56
*** ricolin has quit IRC16:56
*** mickeys has quit IRC16:57
*** cshahani has joined #openstack-meeting16:57
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting16:57
*** dflorea_ has quit IRC16:57
*** sc68cal has quit IRC16:58
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting16:59
*** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting16:59
*** tellesnobrega is now known as tellesnobrega_af16:59
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC16:59
*** _alastor_ has left #openstack-meeting16:59
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting17:00
*** cdent has joined #openstack-meeting17:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC17:01
*** mmuppidi has quit IRC17:01
mmedvede#startmeeting third-party17:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 17:01:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mmedvede. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)"17:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'17:01
*** haomaiwa_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:01
*** jdurgin1 has quit IRC17:01
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting17:01
*** ja3 has joined #openstack-meeting17:02
*** lblanchard has quit IRC17:02
*** Swami has joined #openstack-meeting17:02
mmedvedeja3: hey17:02
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting17:02
ja3morning/afternoon sir17:02
*** mhickey has quit IRC17:02
mmedvedewho else is here for third-party CI working group meeting?17:02
*** rossella_s has quit IRC17:02
*** _alastor_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:02
*** toscalix has quit IRC17:03
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting17:03
*** xingchao has quit IRC17:03
*** sc68cal has joined #openstack-meeting17:04
mmedvedehi asselin_ , sorry to hear that you have conflict with the meeting17:04
mmedvede#topic Announcements17:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: third-party)"17:04
mmedvedeGerrit IP change is still happening on April 1117:04
mmedvedeGerrit IP Change: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088985.html17:04
*** dflorea has quit IRC17:04
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC17:04
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting17:05
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC17:05
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting17:05
mmedvede#topic CI Watch17:06
*** openstack changes topic to "CI Watch (Meeting topic: third-party)"17:06
*** annegentle has quit IRC17:07
mmedvedeUnit tests are slow-going. I did not push anything for review there. Currently working on getting some fixtures for gerrit event stream added17:07
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting17:07
*** StefanPaetowJisc has joined #openstack-meeting17:07
mmedvedei.e. it is now possible to run a test with fake gerrit listener17:07
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting17:07
*** maeca has quit IRC17:07
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC17:08
*** banix has quit IRC17:08
mmedvedethe problem is that current test would have to directly examine resulting records in database, which is marginally useful17:08
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting17:09
mmedvedeany questions?17:09
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting17:09
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC17:09
mmedvede#topic Common-CI Solution17:09
*** openstack changes topic to "Common-CI Solution (Meeting topic: third-party)"17:09
mmedvedeasselin_: anything to discuss here?17:10
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:10
asselin_no updates from me17:10
mmedvedeI did not see many patches come in recently17:10
mmedvedeok, moving on :)17:10
mmedvede#topic Open Discussion17:10
*** sdake has quit IRC17:10
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: third-party)"17:10
*** nisha_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:11
*** amitgandhinz has quit IRC17:11
*** xingchao has joined #openstack-meeting17:12
mmedvedeasselin_: would you like me to chair for you while you have the conflict?17:12
asselin_mmedvede, yes, that would be great17:12
*** zqfan has quit IRC17:12
*** MarkAtwood has quit IRC17:13
mmedvedeasselin_: ok, would do17:13
asselin_thank you17:13
ja3we've started to trigger our CI off of nova now, running full tempest instead of only smoke.  still not ready to vote, tuning slave build times and such.17:13
*** paul-carlton1 has quit IRC17:14
ja3...and my log server request is still going nowhere.17:14
*** cdub has joined #openstack-meeting17:14
*** nisha has quit IRC17:14
mmedvedeja3: that is unfortunate17:14
*** jichen has joined #openstack-meeting17:14
mmedvedeja3: how long does your current test take?17:15
ja3well it's "lack of attention" nowhere, rather than "request denied" nowhere, so it could turn on a dime17:15
*** harshs has joined #openstack-meeting17:16
ja3they're getting close to on-par with upstream.  bob has been seriously flogging it.17:16
*** askb has quit IRC17:17
*** weshay has quit IRC17:17
mmedvedewhat matters to be able to report/vote is test reliability and stability. Initially you can ask for non-voting commenting permissions to validate how reliable your CI is17:18
*** fernnest has joined #openstack-meeting17:19
*** eil397 has joined #openstack-meeting17:19
*** tellesnobrega_af is now known as tellesnobrega17:20
ja3true, but we don't actually need any permissions to compare our results against upstream.17:20
mmedvedeja3: so once you get your logserver, you should be able to start commenting non-voting17:20
ja3assuming we're stable enough, yes17:20
mmedvedeja3: right, but if your CI is invisible, it is harder to collect stats17:21
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting17:21
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting17:21
*** morgan is now known as notnotmyname17:21
*** notnotmyname is now known as morgan17:21
*** pgreg has joined #openstack-meeting17:21
ja3is anyone interested in collecting stats on our CI, when we don't think it's stable/reliable yet?  I would not think so, but I'm willing to be wrong if there's some larger context I'm not grokking.17:21
ja3I'd think making it visible is basically just generating spam for onlookers, and I consider that impolite.17:22
ja3...that's my current thinking at least.  If I'm dragging knuckles w/o good reason, slap me around.17:23
mmedvedeagree, it needs to be reasonably not broken :)17:23
*** shashank_hegde has quit IRC17:23
*** enriquetaso has joined #openstack-meeting17:24
mmedvedeja3: also if you follow the guidelines at17:25
mmedvede#link Third Party Testing http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/third_party.html17:25
*** jlibosva1 has joined #openstack-meeting17:25
mmedvedeone step is to add your account to gerrit group that should prevent spam emails17:26
*** egallen has quit IRC17:27
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting17:27
mmedvedeok, any more topics?17:28
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting17:28
*** jlibosva1 is now known as jlibosva17:29
mmedvedethanks for attending17:30
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"17:30
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 17:30:20 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:30
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-05-17.01.html17:30
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-05-17.01.txt17:30
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-05-17.01.log.html17:30
*** ja3 has quit IRC17:30
mmedvedeeil397: hi, were you here for the meeting?17:31
eil397last ten minutes17:31
*** mickeys has quit IRC17:32
mmedvedeare you setting up a CI? please introduce yourself on the next meeting if you would be here :) All CI operators are welcome17:33
*** tellesnobrega is now known as tellesnobrega_af17:33
*** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting17:33
*** tellesnobrega_af is now known as tellesnobrega17:33
*** cdent has left #openstack-meeting17:34
*** tellesnobrega is now known as tellesnobrega_af17:34
eil397thanks. I will do next time. I'm working for internal CI.17:34
*** nisha_ has quit IRC17:34
eil397not sure this internal CI will be classified as third party CI. but I'm interesting in any CI.17:35
*** tellesnobrega_af is now known as tellesnobrega17:35
mmedvedeeil397: you would have similar problems and might also have solutions that would be useful to others. So that counts17:36
*** weshay has joined #openstack-meeting17:36
eil397mmedvede: totally agree17:36
mmedvedeeil397: as long as you are using similar tools (zuul/nodepool/jenkins)17:36
*** rderose has quit IRC17:37
eil397I was using zuul/nodepool/jenkins. Few months ago I've cloned community's ci system (infra) . few components of it.17:37
eil397just to show what kind of added value it can bring.17:38
eil397for internal teams17:38
*** rderose has joined #openstack-meeting17:38
*** nisha has joined #openstack-meeting17:38
mmedvedeeil397: do you mind joining #openstack-third-party-ci channel, we can discuss things there (it is logged).17:39
mmedvedeeil397: I am using the infra both for third-party OpenStack CI and for internal CI17:39
mmedvedeit is very flexible17:39
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting17:40
*** pvaneck has joined #openstack-meeting17:40
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting17:40
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting17:40
mmedvedeeil397: do you have it working already, i.e. you can start jenkins jobs on patches?17:41
eil397mmedvede: thanks. I would like to join.17:41
*** jmckind_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:41
*** asingh has joined #openstack-meeting17:41
*** jdob has quit IRC17:41
*** jdob has joined #openstack-meeting17:41
*** pabelanger has joined #openstack-meeting17:41
*** dflorea has quit IRC17:42
*** davidlenwell has quit IRC17:42
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting17:42
eil397mmedvede: it was working. main processes: from event in gerrit to testing jobs and package publishing and with slaves created by nodepool.17:42
*** jmckind has quit IRC17:44
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting17:44
*** asettle has quit IRC17:45
*** Sudhirverma has joined #openstack-meeting17:46
mmedvedeeil397: sounds like you have it figured out17:46
*** garthb has quit IRC17:47
*** shashank_hegde has joined #openstack-meeting17:47
*** julim has joined #openstack-meeting17:48
*** haleyb has quit IRC17:48
*** davidlenwell has joined #openstack-meeting17:49
*** hdaniel has quit IRC17:49
*** dflorea has quit IRC17:50
*** singhj has quit IRC17:50
*** amitgandhinz has joined #openstack-meeting17:51
*** nisha_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:51
*** jlibosva has quit IRC17:51
*** bvandenh has quit IRC17:52
*** xingchao has quit IRC17:52
eil397mmedvede: infra team did great job. puppet automation works great. very clear design.17:52
*** reedip__ has quit IRC17:52
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting17:52
mmedvedeagree, it is fairly reusable with a few minor tweaks17:53
*** jdob has quit IRC17:53
*** mickeys has quit IRC17:53
*** jdob has joined #openstack-meeting17:53
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting17:54
*** nisha has quit IRC17:55
*** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting17:55
*** Sudhirverma has quit IRC17:55
*** mickeys has quit IRC17:55
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting17:56
*** dflorea has quit IRC17:56
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting17:57
*** dingboopt has quit IRC17:57
*** rha has joined #openstack-meeting17:58
*** dflorea has quit IRC17:58
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck17:58
*** pots1 has quit IRC17:59
stevemarkeystone meeting ping: ajayaa, amakarov, ayoung, breton, browne, crinkle, claudiub, davechen, david8hu, dolphm, dstanek, edmondsw, gyee, henrynash, hogepodge, htruta, jamielennox, joesavak, jorge_munoz, knikolla, lbragstad, lhcheng, marekd, MaxPC, morganfainberg, nkinder, raildo, rodrigods, rderose, roxanaghe, samleon, samueldmq, shaleh, stevemar, tjcocozz, tsymanczyk, topol, vivekd, wanghong, xek17:59
*** sshnaidm has joined #openstack-meeting17:59
stevemar#startmeeting keystone17:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 17:59:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is stevemar. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:59
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)"18:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
*** haomaiwa_ has quit IRC18:01
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
*** shaleh has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
*** dmorita has quit IRC18:01
stevemaragenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting18:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
*** browne has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
stevemarnot much on the agenda today18:01
stevemarassuming there isn't much open disucssion we can cut the meeting short18:01
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
*** haleyb has joined #openstack-meeting18:02
stevemar#topic Enforcing the code of conduct18:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Enforcing the code of conduct (Meeting topic: keystone)"18:02
stevemarayoung: ^18:02
* stevemar pokes ayoung18:02
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting18:02
stevemarthere you are!18:03
*** merooney has quit IRC18:03
bknudsonI hope ayoung isn't going to kick me out of openstack18:03
*** dflorea has quit IRC18:03
ayoungso...had an interesting exchange last week18:03
lbragstadthat's putting it lightly18:03
bretondoes poking comply with code of conduct?18:03
ayoungwe had someone in the chatroom asking for help, morgan was doing his part, and I chimed in18:03
ayoungand proceeded to get abused18:03
stevemarbreton: :)18:03
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting18:03
dstanekdid i miss something good last week?18:03
ayoungnow...if it is going to happen to anyone, I want it to be me18:03
morgandstanek: not good.18:03
ayoungI think we all know that I can take it.18:04
ayoungits not about me.18:04
morganNo one should have to take it18:04
*** ihrachys has quit IRC18:04
morganEven if they can.18:04
ayoungAnd I think that I made a mistake in letting the other person off.18:04
ayoungIts about the community18:04
*** s3wong has quit IRC18:04
ayoungand the environment in the chat room, and the project18:04
*** timcline has joined #openstack-meeting18:04
ayounglater, stevemar kick banned this person18:05
morganFwiw, this incident was also escalated to the foundation (fungi, thingee, and others)18:05
morganI've been working with them on this front as well.18:05
ayoungso,  we were caught unprepared, and, fortunately, no real harm done18:05
ayoungif something like this happens again...here is how I think we  should react18:05
fungiyes, a situation to be taken seriously no matter the perceived impact18:05
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting18:05
ayoungon the first time someone says something that is a personal attack, the conversation stops.18:06
*** matrohon has quit IRC18:06
*** unicell1 has joined #openstack-meeting18:06
*** unicell1 has quit IRC18:06
*** unicell has quit IRC18:06
ayoungWe make it point blank clear that this is not the acceptable way to communicate18:06
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting18:06
*** bvandenh has joined #openstack-meeting18:06
ayoungand, it should not be the person attacked responsibility to respond18:06
ayoungit should be the other cores, especially Ops in the room18:06
shalehsounds like what we teach our kids in school about bullies18:07
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting18:07
*** unicell has quit IRC18:07
shalehIOW, reasonable and appropriate18:07
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting18:07
bknudsonworks for me.18:07
ayoungI got a few people sending me personal messages of support.  While I do appreciate that, in retrospect, it would have been better to be public about even that18:07
thingee#link https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/18:07
stevemarfwiw https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/18:07
morganDolph, Steve, and I are ops and if none of us are around infra has a the ability to handle these things as well18:08
amakarovayoung, ++ had 2 of them this week18:08
ayoungnever tell the person that is being attacked that they should be the one to back down or leave, unless they are actively contributing18:08
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting18:08
*** unicell has quit IRC18:08
fungialso unsurprisingly, there was some pattern of escalation. i found another less severe conversation from january i think it was where there were some comments verging on being personal attacks against developers responsible for some patch. if it had been made clear then that it was unacceptable behavior, the individual responsible may not have taken things even further in this more recent incident18:08
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting18:08
ayoungand, let me be clear, you can always call on me if there is a question18:08
stevemaryeah, let's not try to engage and throw rocks bad18:08
stevemarjust raise a flag to the ops18:09
thingeeregardless of how ayoung wanted to handle it, there were several things that hit our code of conduct. I'd rather stop it there and make it clear.18:09
morganthingee: ++18:09
ayoungthingee, exactly.18:09
*** yolanda has joined #openstack-meeting18:09
*** keedya has joined #openstack-meeting18:09
ayoungAnd, as a final point, thanks for being such a great community about this.18:09
*** jdurgin has quit IRC18:09
ayoungAs I said, we were caught unware, which means our responses were unrehersed18:09
*** jdurgin has joined #openstack-meeting18:09
ayoungso, maybe they were a bit slow, but they were the right responses18:10
*** e0ne has quit IRC18:10
*** mickeys has quit IRC18:10
ayounga special kudos to stevemar who had to be the heavy this time.  It is a tough thing to do18:10
morganIt thankfully is rare enough in the community. But we will be better about it if something happens again like this18:10
fungiayoung: (and others who were engaged in that particular exchange) thanks for being level-headed, professional and non-combative18:10
stevemarhappy to18:10
ayoungone last point18:10
ayoungits easy to feel sorry for the person that we kick banned18:10
ayoung"oh he was probably a dumb kid" or whatever18:10
lbragstadna - he had it coming18:11
thingeeheh your one last point of a final point. :)18:11
ayoungbut remember, there are many, many people that get abused and just dissapear18:11
ayoungok, thats all18:11
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC18:11
* morgan runs to get through airport security.18:11
stevemarthanks ayoung18:11
fungithe greatest impact is often on others who are simply seeing it unfold, and not directly engaged in the discussion18:11
*** nisha_ is now known as nisha18:12
stevemaralrighty, now for a much more fun topic... testing!18:12
*** singhj has quit IRC18:12
*** yamamoto has quit IRC18:12
stevemarthanks for chiming in fungi and thingee18:13
dstaneknice...i have 20 minutes left before i have to drop off for a meeting18:13
stevemar#topic Migrate keystone tempest tests into keystone tree18:13
*** openstack changes topic to "Migrate keystone tempest tests into keystone tree (Meeting topic: keystone)"18:13
stevemarrodrigods you have the floor18:13
rodrigodshi guys... just want your feedback about this18:13
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC18:13
rodrigodsshould we move everything to our repo?18:13
*** lpetrut has quit IRC18:13
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting18:13
shalehdefine everything?18:13
rodrigodsalready have a patch for it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301398/18:13
samueldmqayoung: thanks for bringing that up18:14
rodrigodsshaleh, all keystone API tests18:14
shalehlast time we discussed moving negative tests18:14
bknudsonI don't think we should move everything to our repo, since then it can't be part of the defcore or whatever it is.18:14
rodrigodsbknudson, how so?18:14
ayoungbknudson, well, what repo?18:14
ayoungkeystone server?18:14
rodrigodsthis is something that is being done by another projects18:14
ayoungor should it be aseparate repo, managed by us18:14
ayoungits like 6K lines18:14
dstanekrodrigods: right, why move more than the negative tests?18:14
rodrigodsfor example: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/commit/57e3ba1af8c6a939cab18d0255a26f6a1eca0d4918:14
rodrigodsdstanek, so we don't occupy the gate of other projects18:15
bknudsonrodrigods: good question. I don't know how defcore works so I can't say that I have any idea what effect this is going to have.18:15
knikollai'm still confused about the tempest vs /functional/tests18:15
bretonmaybe it should be broken into several patches18:15
bknudsonayoung: my understanding is that tests need to be in tempest in order to be included in defcore.18:15
bretonbecause reviewing 6k LOC is terrible.18:15
ayoungknikolla, tempest *are* functional tests, just in an external project18:15
stevemaris tempest doing this for all projects?18:15
rodrigodsbreton, it should be easy to review18:16
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting18:16
rodrigodsstevemar, this is not required18:16
knikollaayoung, right, and there is a spec to move them inside keystone and outside of tempest18:16
dstanekknikolla: i think this is where we can put our functional tests. tempest didn't want them in their source tree18:16
rodrigodsit is just an option18:16
rodrigodsi wanted to write new tests for our tempest plugin18:16
bknudsonbefore we approve this there should be a review posted to tempest to remove the tests.18:16
rodrigodsi got stuck in copying stuff of tempest (a lot of stuff)18:17
rodrigodsthen i remembered this was being done by other projects and thought to get your opinion about it18:17
rodrigodsmaybe move only v3? or move none (just move the configs and clients)18:17
dstanekrodrigods: my push back would be to see what tempest wants in their tests because i can't imagine that they don't want at least the defcore stuff18:17
knikollai was referring to this: https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/specs/keystone/ongoing/functional-testing.rst18:18
rodrigodsdstanek, agreed18:18
ayoungdstanek, what would you think would be the dividing line between something that was a functional test in keystone vs tempest?18:19
rodrigodsso... what should be the approach? copy stuff when needed?18:19
*** zul has quit IRC18:19
bknudsonwhy do we need to copy? don't they provide a library?18:19
rodrigodsbknudson, is it ok to import their clients over?18:20
bknudsonrodrigods: why not?18:20
dstanekayoung: my understanding what that most of the tests we wanted to do don't fit their roadmap (error conditions, complicated keystone-only flows, etc)18:20
*** nadya has quit IRC18:20
dstanekrodrigods: yes18:20
*** piet has quit IRC18:21
ayoungso we need at least a good chunk of the Tempest tests anyway?18:21
rodrigodsif so... i think we only need configs and minor stuff18:21
rodrigodsayoung, i guess we need to move only the negative ones18:21
*** yamamoto has quit IRC18:21
dstanekayoung: nobody seems good at drawing this line. but it seems to be that any negative testing and single project tests (except defcore) are not really wanted18:21
rodrigodsbtw... tempest-lib is going to be deprecated18:21
rodrigodswe should use tempest directly18:22
ayoungI'm tempted to take everything, but put it into a separate repo:  keystone-testing18:22
*** cbader has quit IRC18:22
*** pgreg has quit IRC18:22
bknudsonI have no idea why tempest came up with admin/v3  tests... makes no sense18:22
ayoungI kindof want our test code to be able to test both server and client, maybe CLI too18:22
rodrigodsbknudson, just because was the only place to put the integration tests18:22
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting18:22
bretonbknudson: we regularily get questions about v3 and admin ports/pipeline/api18:23
*** brucet has quit IRC18:23
ayoungdoes anyone have a strong opinion that the functional tests should *not* be in a separate, but Keystone team managed, repo?18:23
stevemari kinda like the idea of a separate repo for testing18:23
rodrigodsthe only advantage in having them in the same repo18:24
rodrigodsis that we can require integration tests18:24
rodrigodsfor the features18:24
*** bvandenh has quit IRC18:24
ayoungrodrigods, so, I would like it to work like this:18:24
knikollahaving them in the same repo can test proposed reviews18:24
dstanekwe initially decided to keep it in the same repo to make sure their was parity (because v3 tests would go away in favor or functional tests)18:24
ayoung1. Submite your patch to Keystone.  It gets -1 Needs tests18:24
knikollawith new tests18:25
ayoung2. Submit your patch to test repo. It passes with patched, does not pass with master18:25
bknudsonyou can test proposed reviews in a separate repo using depends-on.18:25
ayoungthese known failures are marked as "pending..."18:25
dstanekand we thought it would be easy to split later as opposed to making infra to work just to undo it if we changed our minds18:25
*** jlibosva has joined #openstack-meeting18:25
knikollabknudson, right.18:25
ayoungand then, once the patch merges, the tests that failed before are not passing18:25
ayoungare *now* passing18:25
rodrigods(btw... please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298696/)18:26
*** dflorea has quit IRC18:26
ayoungits more like double-entry accounting?18:26
*** jlibosva has quit IRC18:26
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting18:26
rodrigodsayoung, the tests would need to be merged later or with some skip decorator18:26
ayoungrodrigods, right18:26
rodrigodsso we won't move everything, right?18:26
ayoungskip decorator is a good approach, I think?18:26
*** piet has joined #openstack-meeting18:27
bknudsonyou can use depends-on to show that your tests work with the new code18:27
ayoungdstanek, any opinion? You  kindof kicked off this  landslide18:27
ayoungbknudson, ++18:27
ayoungwe should document, but is the overall approach something we can all get behind?18:28
rodrigodsthis should be clear to all reviewers18:28
dstanekayoung: not really. i still like the rationale of defering to see if we need to, but i'd be ok adding another repo if we think we need it18:28
dstanekayoung: we constantly change our minds here :-)18:28
bknudsonI'm fine with it in the same repo or a separate repo.18:28
rodrigodsnot only for the core team and most active ones18:28
bknudsontempest thought that it would work well to have tempest-lib separate and then they had to bring it back in.18:28
ayoungso, the rational for a separate repo is that we can make tests like we used to have for different versions of libraries and servers18:28
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC18:28
*** StefanPaetowJisc has quit IRC18:29
stevemarayoung: let's make sure all the testing we want to do can be handled by a separate repo18:29
bknudsonand it's easy to move the code out to a library from keystone.18:29
ayoungnot saying we need 100% backwards compat, but it does make it possible18:29
rodrigodsbknudson, +118:29
samueldmqseparate repo makes dev workflow harder18:29
stevemarnot just tempest tests, but keystoneclient functional tests, and keystone functional tests18:29
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting18:30
bknudsonkeystoneauth ?18:30
bknudsonkeystonemiddleware ?18:30
rodrigods#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/plugin.html#standalone-plugin-vs-in-repo-plugin18:30
ayoungyep and yep18:30
rodrigodsthey even have a doc about it :P18:30
dstanekbknudson: right, that's what we said last time. split later if needed instead of doing it because we thought we would need it18:30
ayoungwith middleware, we could spin up the echo service18:30
stevemarbknudson: you know it18:31
*** eharney has quit IRC18:31
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC18:31
ayoungso, I don't want rodrigods spinning his wheels here.  We should make a decision of some sort that he can act on.  Move the tempest tests into Keystone server?18:31
bknudsonso the proposal is a single repo for functional testing of all keystone projects? That's a new one to me.18:32
bknudsonI think we should put the tests in keystone for now so we can get started more quickly.18:32
rodrigodswe can start requiring to have the integration tests once the gate job is merged18:32
*** StefanPaetowJisc has joined #openstack-meeting18:32
*** mickeys has quit IRC18:32
rodrigodsand we see how it goes18:32
*** StefanPaetowJisc has left #openstack-meeting18:33
stevemari'm okay with the tests in keystone for now with the plan to split them later18:33
ayoungOK.  And, to be honest, I thimnk I'd like us to just approve the bulk transfer of the tests now, and then do any winnowing by removal18:33
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting18:33
ayoungI'd rather double cover than have a period with no coverage18:33
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting18:33
bknudsonmerge the tests as they are and remove them works for me, too.18:33
ayoungrodrigods, any last thoughts?18:34
bknudsonnot a fan of the potential double maintenance for a while, but hopefully we can get things sorted out quickly enough18:34
rodrigodsayoung, makes sense18:34
ayoungstevemar, want to #action that?18:35
rodrigodsit is a huge review, but it is easy to review18:35
rodrigods(just need to check the diffs between keystone's and tempest's trees)18:35
bknudsonjust do a diff to see what changed.18:35
rodrigodsthe command is in the commit message18:35
rodrigodsbesides that, only the README18:36
stevemar#action merge the tests as they are and scope out to see if a new repo makes sense18:36
knikollaand documentation18:36
rodrigodsi would need to check bknudson's suggestion of importing the clients, instead of copying them18:37
rodrigodsor we should copy them?18:37
bknudsonrodrigods: ask qa if they think we should copy or not.18:37
rodrigodsbknudson, ok18:37
* morgan back now through airport security18:38
*** dflorea has quit IRC18:38
ayoungcopy for now,18:38
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC18:38
samueldmqstevemar: ++ on keeping in keystone for now, and looking at split later18:38
ayoungwe could end up with a circular dependency otherwise, no?18:38
rodrigodsand... anyone with experience with gate jobs18:38
morganstevemar: ++18:38
rodrigodsplease review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298696/18:39
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting18:39
bknudsonI still think it should be keystone/tempest_plugin rather than keystone/keystone_tempest_plugin.18:39
stevemarbknudson: ++18:40
stevemarkinda self explanatory18:40
rderosebknudson: ++18:40
rodrigodsbknudson, not sure if we would be able to run with 'tox -e all-plugin -- keystone'18:40
*** browne has left #openstack-meeting18:40
*** rebase has quit IRC18:40
rodrigodsbut... i can test locally and send a follow up patch to fix that18:40
*** rcernin has quit IRC18:41
morganbknudson: ++18:41
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting18:41
rderoserodrigods: sounds good18:41
*** rebase has joined #openstack-meeting18:41
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting18:41
ayoungOK...we done?18:41
rodrigodsayoung, i guess :)18:42
bknudsonyes, merge this and get the gate job going18:42
rodrigodsbknudson, ++18:42
*** cbader has joined #openstack-meeting18:42
*** nadya has quit IRC18:42
ayoungknikolla, roxanaghe BTW,  good work on the LDAP Python3 stuff.  That is going to be "critical path" as python3 is getting to be essential18:43
ayoungand the LDAP gate job should probably tie in with this functional test effort, too18:43
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting18:43
roxanagheayoung, ++18:43
rodrigodsbtw... knikolla and i were discussing about federation tests18:43
rodrigodsand infra18:43
stevemarif we get our ldap3 driver working, should we deprecate ldap (old one) right away?18:43
rodrigodswe added a topic for the newton summit design sessions18:44
ayoungstevemar, sort of18:44
*** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting18:44
*** dflorea has quit IRC18:44
ayoungstevemar, if the old one and the new one support the same interface, no18:44
bknudsonlet's deprecate the ldap driver when the ldap3 one is ready18:44
stevemarayoung: the new one will have to18:44
ayounginstead, we replace old one with new, and update the entrypoint18:44
rderosebknudson: ++18:44
stevemarknikolla: have you looked to see if ldap3 has ldap pooling?18:44
ayoungOh..yeah, I guess we can leave the etnrypioint, and just deprecate the code though,  right?18:44
bknudsonI doubt the drivers are going to have the same interface.18:45
stevemarayoung: yep18:45
bknudsonespecially config options18:45
knikollastevemar, it has, i've got in running. but not for auth.18:45
ayoungBTW, has anyone made sure all of the authnentication code works correctly with ldap3?18:45
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting18:46
bretonis list_limit here supported?18:46
stevemarknikolla: not for auth? that's strange18:46
breton*there, in ldap3 backend18:47
stevemar#topic open discussion18:47
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)"18:47
stevemar(forgot to update the topic)18:47
ayoungbreton, for ldap?18:47
bretonayoung: yes18:47
*** mickeys has quit IRC18:47
knikollastevemar, when i try pulling in the authenticate method it doesn't through me away, even with wrong credentials. I'm looking into that.18:47
stevemarrderose: breton have you guys looked at a fix for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/156628218:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1566282 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Returning federated user fails to authenticate with HTTP 500" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Boris Bobrov (bbobrov)18:47
bretonplease triage https://review.openstack.org/301795 and review the fix18:47
ayoungbreton, should be part of the protocol.  I would expect it to be, but should be something we confirm, too18:48
bretonoh, other way around18:48
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting18:48
morganstevemar: there is ldappool built into LDAP 3 lib18:48
stevemarbreton: ha, just mentioned that too18:48
stevemarmorgan: nice18:48
rderosestevemar: looking...18:48
bretonayoung: no, i mean the option list_limit18:48
stevemarrderose: dolphm ^ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301795/18:48
bretonayoung: i implemented it for existing ldap backend18:48
morganNeeds to be explicitly used but it is there vs a separate lib18:48
bretonayoung: is it supported in the new one?18:48
ayoungbreton, then yes18:49
*** Shrews has joined #openstack-meeting18:49
ayoungbreton, is there a unit test for it?  If so, then roxanaghe 's work is defined by that18:49
bretonayoung: unit tests are for ldap backend18:50
bretonayoung: not general afaik18:50
roxanagheayoung, I've seen code around that but haven't gotten that far18:50
bretonbecause it works differently for LDAP and SQL, and i didn't have time to unify the tests18:51
*** maeca has quit IRC18:51
*** lblanchard has quit IRC18:51
*** yassine__ has quit IRC18:51
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting18:52
roxanaghebreton, unit tests are using a fakeldap we built to simulate ldap responses18:52
*** mickeys has quit IRC18:52
knikollawe can do functional tests though, i've subclassed the ldap3 driver with a writeable implementation.18:52
bknudsonif we have a writable implementation why not just support it?18:53
ayoungbknudson, so we were thinking that writable was just for testing18:53
ayoungbut in general, LDAP should not be writable.18:53
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting18:53
bretonopen discussion is a copy of openstack-keystone :) 3 subjects are being discussed at the same time18:53
ayoungit lowers the support threshold18:53
ayoungok, lets moeve there18:53
ayoungstevemar, want to close out here?18:54
*** toscalix_ has joined #openstack-meeting18:54
*** yamamoto has quit IRC18:54
*** sridharg has quit IRC18:54
roxanagheknikolla, I think the writable apis will be useful for unit tests18:54
stevemarayoung: yeah, was just tpying that up18:54
lbragstadthanks all o/18:54
stevemari think we're all doing other stuff18:54
stevemarlets close this out and move to #openstack-keystone18:54
stevemarthanks for showing up everyone18:54
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"18:54
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 18:54:47 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:54
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2016/keystone.2016-04-05-17.59.html18:54
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2016/keystone.2016-04-05-17.59.txt18:54
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2016/keystone.2016-04-05-17.59.log.html18:54
*** rha has left #openstack-meeting18:54
*** shaleh has left #openstack-meeting18:55
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting18:55
*** olaph has joined #openstack-meeting18:56
*** hashar has joined #openstack-meeting18:56
*** toscalix has quit IRC18:58
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting18:58
*** igorbelikov has joined #openstack-meeting18:58
*** AJaeger has joined #openstack-meeting18:59
fungiinfra team, assemble!19:00
jeblairhowdy there19:00
*** eharney has quit IRC19:00
* Shrews readies his Legos19:00
* anteaya pictures jeblair in a stetson19:00
*** toscalix_ has quit IRC19:01
fungii see topics from pleia2 and zigo19:01
*** bobh_ has quit IRC19:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting19:01
fungiwanting to spend a chunk of today on summit session ideas, so let's get started19:02
fungi#startmeeting infra19:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 19:02:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)"19:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:02
fungi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:02
fungi#topic Announcements19:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)"19:02
*** waynr has joined #openstack-meeting19:02
*** rcarrillocruz has joined #openstack-meeting19:02
fungi#info Reminder, Gerrit server maintenance on review.openstack.org is scheduled for 20:00 UTC on Monday, April 1119:03
fungi#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)"19:03
fungi#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2016/infra.2016-03-29-19.03.html19:03
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit_server_replacement yolanda draft a maintenance plan for the gerrit server replacement19:03
fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091274.html19:03
fungiyolanda send maintenance reminder announcement to the mailing list on April 419:03
fungier, stray newline19:03
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0xb1dcf50>19:03
fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091274.html yolanda send maintenance reminder announcement to the mailing list on April 419:03
fungiso those were both done19:04
yolandayep, done19:04
pleia2thanks yolanda19:04
fungithanks yolanda!!!19:04
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting19:04
fungi#topic Specs approval19:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)"19:04
yolandaso i'd like to get feedback about the plan in the etherpad19:04
fungiyolanda: happy to19:04
*** e0ne has quit IRC19:05
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting19:05
fungiwe don't have any new specs up for final council voting on this week19:05
anteayayolanda: it looks good to me, perhaps you can add the actual commands to be executed so folks can copy and paste?19:05
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC19:05
fungias a reminder, feel free to pester me if there are specs administrivia changes which need approving and aren't themselves specs or substantial changes to approved specs19:05
AJaegerfungi, one question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284049/ - this one is just a clarification.19:05
AJaegerfungi: Does it need voting?19:05
AJaegerIt documents how the translation setup was done19:06
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting19:06
AJaegerOr should I pester you outside of the meeting for this? ;)19:06
yolandafungi, i have a question about when to update dns entries... because we need to test that zuul, git mirrors, etc.. can recognize new gerrit entry19:06
fungiAJaeger: i think we can just review that like a normal change. it seems to be documenting reality, not changing a plan19:06
*** jmckind_ has quit IRC19:07
AJaegerfungi: correct19:07
fungiAJaeger: i've approved it now19:07
AJaegerthanks, fungi19:07
hasharhave to announce the new Gerrit IP ahead of time for third parties19:07
*** terrylhowe has joined #openstack-meeting19:07
*** toscalix_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:07
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting19:07
anteayahashar: we have19:07
hasharcorporate world would need to update some firewall rules19:07
hasharanteaya: \O/19:07
anteayahashar: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088985.html19:07
fungihashar: yeah, provided a month heads-up19:07
fungiand reminders19:07
anteayaposted march 10th19:07
fungiyolanda: i'll double-check your plan but usually it needs to be changed at the start of the maintenance window and we should make sure ttls are low (300s)19:08
anteayahashar: good thinking19:08
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting19:08
fungianyway, moving on19:08
AJaegerspeaking of gerrit downtime: We have one rename request for a project. Do we want to do it at the same time?19:08
yolandathanks fungi19:08
jeblairi'd rather not do the rename with the move19:08
anteayaI agree19:08
AJaegerhttps://review.openstack.org/299192 - an ansible repo19:08
anteayaone thing at a time19:08
fungiyeah, these things should be separate windows19:09
fungiotherwise we complicate roll-back19:09
fungi#topic Priority Efforts19:09
*** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)"19:09
AJaegerok, works for me19:09
funginothing specific called out on the agenda this week, so skipping this in the interest of available time19:09
fungi#topic Scheduling a StoryBoard bug day and low-hanging-fruit tagging (pleia2)19:09
*** openstack changes topic to "Scheduling a StoryBoard bug day and low-hanging-fruit tagging (pleia2) (Meeting topic: infra)"19:09
anteayazaro: there you are19:10
fungi#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000534 First low-hanging-fruit tag!19:10
pleia2so, I don't want this to turn into a massive discussion (or ignore the great work that craige has done with maniphest)19:10
*** austin81 has joined #openstack-meeting19:10
*** nibalizer has joined #openstack-meeting19:10
pleia2but storyboard has improved a lot, email support was game-changing for me, and I was hoping we could get some others in the team to start poking at it again19:10
ZaraI am always in favour of that! :D19:10
anteayaZara: bring your lemur!19:11
jeblairpleia2: ++ for the moment at least, it's still our bug tracker and any data we put into it should end up in maniphest anywy19:11
zaropleia2: i turned on mail but haven't gotten any :(19:11
clarkbZara: pleia2: I have tried and failed to get email working19:11
crinklefwiw the kanban board for infra-cloud has made things much easier to track19:11
pleia2and as I've been working with it myself, a lot of the bugs are out-dated, the low-hanging-fruit tags we brought over from launchpad (I think?) need some review19:11
clarkbZara: maybe I should talk to you after meeting about it19:11
Zaraclarkb: sure19:11
anteayacrinkle: yay, have you been updating it? I have lost track myself19:11
jeblair(feel free to ping me if smtp debugging is needed)19:11
pleia2so my proposal is to have a bug day where we evaluate the bugs and work on our low-hanging-fruit tags19:11
*** toscalix_ has quit IRC19:11
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC19:11
pleia2probably after summit19:11
crinkleanteaya: i haven't lately since we've been waiting for things on the dc side19:12
anteayapleia2: sounds good to me19:12
pleia2in the meantime, perhaps we try and use it more :)19:12
anteayacrinkle: understood, glad you find it useful though19:12
anteayapleia2: do you have a suggested date?19:12
pleia2anteaya: no19:12
fungipleia2: i'm in favor of getting back to trying to whittle down our bug count. i think we've been mostly letting things fester for at least a year19:12
*** angdraug has joined #openstack-meeting19:12
anteayaI don't see why we need to wait until after summit, unless others do19:12
pleia2fungi: yeah19:12
*** terrylhowe has left #openstack-meeting19:13
pleia2anteaya: I think most folks are super busy19:13
anteayaI don't hink after summit will be any different19:13
fungii also don't see any problem with some people doing something sooner than the summit, but i definitely don't have time to pitch in over the next two weeks before i leave19:13
pleia2well, no, but it gives us some time to make space in our calendars :) summit is only a couple weeks away19:13
anteayaI would be for doing something next wednesday, April 1319:14
anteayawould I be alone?19:14
clarkbI will be around and I think its a decent idea19:14
Zarame and SotK should be around, if nothing else :)19:14
clarkbwe don't need 100% infra team participation to make it successful19:14
fungigo for it, but getting answers out of lots of us next week may be tough if we're needed for input19:14
pleia2ok, that's fine19:14
anteayagreat, so in storyboard channel okay for chat?19:14
anteayaor do we want the sprint channel?19:14
fungistill, there's nothing stopping people who haev available time to devote to bug triage from coordinateing together or even going it alone at different times19:15
pleia2I'll chat with zara and SotK about our options for getting a bug list like we did for lp (if that's possible, or makes sense)19:15
fungimy typing just went to pot there19:15
*** rderose_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:15
anteayapleia2: do you want to do an email saying clarkb and I and Zara and SotK will be in storyboard next wednesday?19:16
rcarrillocruzi'm happy we are looking at Storyboard again19:16
anteayaor shall I?19:16
anteayapleia2: it is your idea19:16
pleia2anteaya: I'll announce it and see who wants to join in19:16
clarkbanteaya: I think the sprint channel would be more appropriate if we are looking at infra bugs19:16
*** vgridnev has joined #openstack-meeting19:16
anteayapleia2: awesome thank you19:16
jeblairclarkb: ++ sprint or infra.19:16
clarkbdon't want to clutter the storyboard channel with a bunch of off topic stuff but ya happy to poke at that and try to cleanup19:16
fungidid some people want to announce a small-scale/impromptu infra bug squash a week from tomorrow?19:16
anteayaI'll get the sprint channel set up19:16
pleia2let's do sprint19:16
anteayavery good19:16
* anteaya books the channel19:16
fungii doubt the sprint channel is much in use this time of the cycle19:16
*** rderose has quit IRC19:16
anteayayeah it is free I'll book it19:17
pleia2#action pleia2 to announce small-scale/impromptu infra bug squash on apr 1319:17
fungi#info Interested bug triagers are welcome to an impromptu Infra bug sprint in #openstack-sprint on Wednesday, April 1319:17
pleia2that's all, thanks fungi19:18
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting19:18
fungi#topic Debian packaging CI (zigo)19:18
*** openstack changes topic to "Debian packaging CI (zigo) (Meeting topic: infra)"19:18
*** toscalix has quit IRC19:18
fungi(after this topic, i'll dive into summit session discussion phase of the meeting)19:18
zigoWell, what is missing from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294022/ ?19:18
zigoWhat can I do to make it approved?19:18
zigoI'd really like to get it going.19:19
zigoThat's first.19:19
zigoDoes anyone have something to say about it?19:19
zigopabelanger: Let me know, by all means! :)19:19
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting19:19
*** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting19:19
fungiit looks like AJaeger has already reviewed and is in favor19:19
zigoYup, he's been very helpful.19:20
AJaegerzigo: it took several iterations to get it in the current state...19:20
AJaegerfungi, I think it's worth a try...19:20
zigoOnce concern that I have though, is about branching.19:20
zigoI've been told that by default, we get "master".19:20
pabelangerI can review today too19:20
zigoThis is in opposition to the current workflow.19:21
AJaegerzigo: you get the change checked out that you use when submitting a change19:21
zigoOh, so if I change something in debian/mitaka, that's going to be what will be in the repo by default?19:21
zigoPerfect ! :P19:21
AJaegerzigo, sure. We test what you submit ;)19:21
AJaegerOr better the CI tests it...19:22
zigoOk, so let's say we get this CR merged, the next step will be to publish the built artifacts in a Debian repo.19:22
*** merooney has quit IRC19:22
zigoI know how to do it at home, on my laptop, on a server, etc., but no clue how I'll do it on upstream infra.19:22
zigoWill we get a special VM ?19:22
zigoHow is it going to work? What would you guys advise?19:23
pabelangerwell, I think that will take more discussion honestly.19:23
fungizigo: generally you would run a job like that either after the change merges (post pipeline) or after you push a tag for it (tag/pre-release/release pipelines)19:23
pabelangerespecially if you are wanting openstack infra to host them19:23
pabelangerbut first thoughts would be using the AFS mirror19:24
fungibut yes, the design would start with some mock-up of the sequence of steps you take to do it by hand now19:24
zigoAFS ?19:24
fungiafs is an implementation detail here19:24
AJaegerI agree with pabelanger: This needs some better understanding of CI in general and shouldn't be discussed here.19:24
zigoWhat means AFS ?19:24
rcarrillocruzandrew file system, iir19:24
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting19:24
*** yamamoto has quit IRC19:24
rcarrillocruzdistributed filesystem, to avoid doing sync scripts on mirrors and all19:25
fungieasiest would probably be to generate the packages and push them somewhere like tarballs.o.o, then have another job which indexes them to update a cohesive package repository19:25
rcarrillocruzthat link explains rationale19:25
zigoIf I'm given a VM, I can setup something like mini-dinstall or something similar.19:25
*** angdraug_mobile has joined #openstack-meeting19:25
fungibut that can be worked out in design phase19:25
zigoI don't want to install a full dak, but there's alternatives to that.19:25
zigoIs it possible to do something like this?19:26
fungizigo: it would just be another job (or multiple jobs) run on existing workers or some similar to our existing workers, which are built via automation19:26
*** toscalix has quit IRC19:26
zigoCan I be given a virtual machine with root access?19:26
AJaegerzigo, let's do a spec. Write up what you want, give a proper problem statement and then we can chime in and help with the missing pieces.19:26
zigoWell, the point is, I'm not sure what I should ask for, and I need to know what's possible or not.19:26
zigoThere's a million way to do things... what do you guys think should be done?19:27
*** erlon has quit IRC19:27
fungiit wouldn't be a system people log into and run things on. it would be a system deployed from a template (either existing for the duration of only one job, or used for multiple jobs but which could be redeployed as needed)19:27
pabelangerwell, since infra-cloud is possible to run custom packages, it might be worth talking about it at the summit19:27
AJaegerzigo: what do you need to do? Define your problem first and leave blanks to fill in - including questions.19:27
pabelangersince there is some overlap19:27
fungithere are no manual steps involved on our job workers19:27
pabelangerso far, reprepro has been working well for us19:27
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting19:27
zigopabelanger: From my past experience, the summit doesn't solve issues, we will *all* be very busy.19:28
*** pvaneck has quit IRC19:28
zigoI need to get all built packages published on each merge.19:28
*** pradk has quit IRC19:28
zigoAvailable to all the new jobs.19:28
*** pradk has joined #openstack-meeting19:29
AJaegerFedora and SUSE have their own build services for this - and Debian has as well AFAIK.19:29
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting19:29
*** jmckind_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:29
zigoSo, the .deb, .changes, .orig.tar.xz, etc. would need to be pushed to a filesystem, then we run a script to scan all packages of a given OpenStack release.19:29
pabelangerand other projects like delorean too19:29
fungii think that's doable, but step #1 is getting packages built. consuming them in other jobs is a separate step. best to work on one phase of this project at a time19:29
AJaegerWhat you propose sounds like reimplementing such a service in Jenkins and I'm not sure that's the best way.19:29
angdraug_mobileIdeally, you want packages published on each patch set19:29
zigoI got the scripts to generate the Packages.gz files and all already.19:29
*** irenab_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:29
zigofungi: I don't want to wait, it's taking already A WAY too much time.19:30
fungizigo: i understand. but generating the package repository indices is the _easy_ part19:30
angdraug_mobileSo that you can use them to run tests anywhere19:30
*** irenab has quit IRC19:30
*** irenab_ is now known as irenab19:30
*** julim has quit IRC19:30
zigofungi: IMO, it'd be best to think about next step already right now.19:30
fungizigo: also your impatience is causing you to try to plan too many steps ahead, which means you get caught up in things you aren't even sure how will work yet19:30
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting19:31
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting19:31
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting19:31
zigofungi: I don't agree I'm lacking patience.19:31
*** sdake_ has quit IRC19:31
fungidesigning something like this to work in a completely hand-off automated ci system is completely different than writing some scripts you can run locally on your own machine19:32
*** jmckind has quit IRC19:32
zigofungi: The project entered the big tent last summer.19:32
*** zul has joined #openstack-meeting19:32
zigoOk, moving on, is there someone volunteering to work on the design with me?19:32
zigoAnd by the way, where's Monty? :)19:32
*** edleafe_ has quit IRC19:33
nibalizeron a plane19:33
nibalizeror probably in a security line headed to a plane19:33
*** nisha has quit IRC19:34
*** akuznetsov has joined #openstack-meeting19:34
zigofungi: What do you advise, is AFS a good idea? Do we have that already available in the current infra?19:34
*** toddjohn has quit IRC19:34
*** jprovazn has quit IRC19:34
fungizigo: afs is an implementation detail, as i said. best not to get confused by that right now19:35
zigofungi: So what should I get working on then?19:35
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting19:35
fungitying this into local package mirrors in our providers is likely one of the last steps to be concerned with19:35
*** e0ne has quit IRC19:35
*** yamamoto has quit IRC19:36
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC19:36
fungizigo: making sure the jobs you have to test building packages do so successfully, with results you can inspect to be able to troubleshoot when things go wrong there19:36
zigoigorbelikov: What's your view?19:36
*** esker has quit IRC19:36
fungizigo: then work on a job which can build packages after merge and upload them somewhere durable19:37
fungithe steps after that will depend somewhat on the design you end up with for those previous steps19:37
fungianything else on this topic that needs the full attention of the entire infra team (minus those on internet-less airplanes)?19:37
igorbelikovzigo: I agree with fungi here. Let’s get the first steps going19:37
zigofungi: What I was asking is: where is this "durable somewhere" and how will it work...19:37
*** sc68cal has quit IRC19:38
zigoSo probably we can move on...19:38
zigoThanks fungi.19:38
fungizigo: thanks, and let's continue this with interested participants in #openstack-infra19:38
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting19:38
fungi#topic Design summit session planning19:38
*** openstack changes topic to "Design summit session planning (Meeting topic: infra)"19:38
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting19:38
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC19:39
*** toscalix has quit IRC19:39
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-newton-summit-planning  Newton Summit Planning19:39
fungii haven't transcribed the days/times for our slots into this yet19:39
*** toddjohn has quit IRC19:40
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting19:40
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting19:40
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC19:40
fungi#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Infrastructure: Summit Session Days/Times19:40
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting19:41
fungilooks like we've got at least a few fishbowls proposed, but so far only one workroom19:41
*** claudiub has quit IRC19:41
anteayayou have the colon but my clicking on it lost the colon19:41
anteayaso glad I know to use the colon19:41
*** ociuhandu_ has quit IRC19:41
anteayacan any of the fishbowls be workrooms?19:42
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0xb3fe390>19:42
fungi#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Infrastructure%3A Summit Session Days/Times19:42
fungianteaya: some less popular fishbowls can move to workrooms19:42
*** angdraug_mobile has quit IRC19:42
anteayathank you19:43
fungithe main limitations there are space and seating arrangement19:43
jeblairi could see mordred's groups fishbowl working as a workroom19:43
*** dflorea has quit IRC19:43
anteayathat works for me, mordred's thing as a workroom19:44
*** sdake has quit IRC19:44
clarkbI am sure I can come up with other workroom ideas19:44
clarkbthe ansible one has frustrated me semi recently so I threw it up there19:44
clarkbI also don't want to be running half the sessions :)19:44
anteayaha ha ha19:45
anteayathe ansible one looks like a good workroom topic19:45
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting19:45
fungialso i'm going to need to squeeze in newton priorities planning somewhere. it could be a fishbowl though we're likely to get a lot of random (potentially distracting/irrelevant) input. on the other hand we could do a workroom but having it on the schedule may just draw the same crowd and see them all try to cram into a tiny space19:45
fungilast time interested core reviewers broke away and found a quiet corner during the sprint day, which worked out pretty well19:46
anteayawould it make sense ot have it on the friday?19:46
persiaHaving it adhoc on the friday is likely to work best19:46
waynris anyone interested in the proposed JJB API fishbowl session?19:46
*** akuznetsov has quit IRC19:47
fungii think i'm leaning that way again. though we'll be hard-pressed to find as awesome a teahouse as we did in that courtyard in tokyo19:47
anteayafungi: yes I don't think austin teahouses are nearly as awesome19:47
fungii hear they put barbecued meat in the tea cups. so... depends on your preferences i suppose19:47
anteayayeah different19:48
anteayawaynr: I think some folks will be, though I personally don't have a lot of experience with the JJB API19:48
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting19:49
*** cdub has quit IRC19:49
anteayaso the item on line 4019:49
waynrthere's not much API to speak of in the sense of "this is really usable outside of the JJB command line context"19:49
*** claudiub has joined #openstack-meeting19:49
anteayathis was proposed by someone who won't be at the summit19:50
fungiso looks like for fishbowls we have xenial upgrade planning. there's both the ci aspects of this for openstack itself, and also generally upgrading our servers. the latter can probably be deferred i think since we already mostly agreed not to plan for moving our services to xenial until ocata, if even that soon19:50
anteayaso if anyone is interested in it, it will need a leader19:50
clarkbfungi: the issue is we are still alrgely precise19:50
clarkbfungi: so we need to either trusty first or jump straight toe xenial19:50
clarkband do it all before april next year19:51
fungiyep, so upgrading our services to trusty might be a more useful discussion to have at this point than upgrading them to xenial19:51
bkeroShould we plan on a session for that?19:51
*** pvaneck has joined #openstack-meeting19:51
clarkbI thin kwe can use the same session and just refine it a bit more19:51
jesusaurfungi: i agree19:51
mordredI have a thing?19:51
* mordred is about to take off on a plane ... sorry for mssing things so far19:52
anteayamordred: someone signed you up for a thing19:52
fungii worry about mixing topics in that session. planning how to lay out our ci transition to test newton changes for openstack on xenial is likely a solid slot on its own19:52
jeblairmordred: the ansible groups thing19:52
pabelangerfungi: we should at minimal discuss upgrading our services to ubuntu-trusty19:52
*** mrmartin has quit IRC19:52
mordredjeblair: ah - neat. yes. workroom19:53
fungiclarkb: do you think the job transition to xenial would be a good (maybe double) workroom topic instead?19:53
*** dmorita has quit IRC19:53
fungiwe could just, you know, try to "get it done" there19:53
*** john-davidge has quit IRC19:53
pleia2that seems like a reasonable use of a workroom19:53
clarkbfungi: maybe, the only problem with that is if things go horribly wrong its hard to set it straight when outside of the workroom19:53
clarkbI supose you just revert in that case19:53
pabelangerwell, our ubuntu xenial mirrors are online now, so that work could start anytime now :D19:53
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting19:54
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting19:54
fungiclarkb: maybe we plan to get as far as having the jobs ready for cut-over immediately posty-summit19:54
fungier, post-summit19:54
jeblairright before we get on a plane ;)19:54
fungiwell, maybe not _that_ immediate19:55
anteayaha ha ha19:55
*** dmorita has quit IRC19:55
*** dmorita_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:55
fungimy main concern with making it a workroom topic though is whether we can parallelize enough of that work to be able to engage 10+ contributors on it for an hour-ish19:55
anteayathat's the tough part19:55
clarkbfungi: we can probably get people testing different aspects19:56
clarkbpython unittests, doc builds, sdisting, and push changes for each one as they go?19:56
clarkbwe should go into it iwth a plan for how we handle the branch switching though19:56
clarkbsince that is messy19:56
fungii'm unconvinced as to whether we need a summit session for the trusty upgrades, though i suppose it could consist of trying to reach consensus on a sequence and approximate timeline for rebuilding various servers, as well as a status check as to where we're already at with it19:57
anteaya3 minutes remaining19:57
*** ajmiller has quit IRC19:57
fungithanks anteaya19:57
*** dprince has quit IRC19:57
*** cdent has joined #openstack-meeting19:57
fungiclarkb: i suppose we could double-whammy xenial testing by doing design in a fishbowl wednesday and implementation in a workroom thursday19:57
pabelangerbut comment still remains, we should work on upgrading precise nodes to trusty first... since they have lagged this long19:57
fungibut that might be monopolizing too much of our allotment19:57
anteayaI think being in sync with operating system plans and expectations would be a great way to start this release19:58
clarkbfungi: ya and may make us go crazy19:58
clarkbfungi: we could use sprint day for that if we wanted to split19:58
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:58
*** gordc has joined #openstack-meeting19:58
fungialso, just to set expectations for today's meeting, my goal was mainly to discuss proposals and get ideas. we have until the end of next week to finalize our schedule19:58
jeblair(btw, i think infra-cloud sprint is a great idea)19:58
fungiclarkb: i think that's an excellent idea for one sprint group19:59
*** mriedem has joined #openstack-meeting19:59
fungiand yes, looks like timing will be ripe (hopefully!) to be able to infra-cloud either on sprint day or in a workroom (or both!)19:59
jeblair(mostly because sprinting on operating a cloud *at the summit* with lots of openstack devs could be really cool)19:59
fungias long as hp doesn't hit any delays with the remaining cabling/routing anyway19:59
pleia2fingers crossed19:59
fungiokay, we're out of time today. add/refine topics on the etherpad for next week when we'll reach final decisions and i can schedule after that20:00
fungithanks everybody!20:00
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting20:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"20:00
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 20:00:25 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)20:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2016/infra.2016-04-05-19.02.html20:00
*** AJaeger has left #openstack-meeting20:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2016/infra.2016-04-05-19.02.txt20:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2016/infra.2016-04-05-19.02.log.html20:00
*** shamail has joined #openstack-meeting20:00
*** Shrews has left #openstack-meeting20:00
*** toscalix has quit IRC20:00
*** carolbarrett has joined #openstack-meeting20:00
*** john-davidge has joined #openstack-meeting20:00
*** waynr has left #openstack-meeting20:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC20:01
ttxmestery, lifeless, mordred, dtroyer, jeblair, sdague: around ?20:01
* edleafe tries to be inconspicuous20:01
*** yolanda has left #openstack-meeting20:01
*** sdake has quit IRC20:01
jeblairttx: o/20:01
ttx#startmeeting tc20:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr  5 20:01:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tc)"20:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tc'20:01
ttxHello, dear members of the mitaka Technical Committee and visitors20:01
ttxThis is the agenda for our last meeting:20:01
*** bobh_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting20:01
mesteryttx waxing poetic :)20:01
ttx#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee20:01
lifelessttx: /o\20:01
ttxFirst a bit of boring administrativia20:02
ttx#topic Update Newton new PTL's20:02
amrithhello dear ttx :)20:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Update Newton new PTL's (Meeting topic: tc)"20:02
ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/29822820:02
ttxThere were a few back-and-forth on email addresses, I think it's good to go now20:02
ttxcould use a couple more votes20:02
ttxWe'll update Renat's address in a separate change20:02
flaper87ship it!20:03
flaper87I can do that while we get votes20:03
ttx#action ttx to update Renat's address if nobody beats him to it20:03
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting20:03
* devananda lurks20:03
*** toscalix has quit IRC20:03
flaper87or you do it20:03
ttxAlright it is in20:03
ttx#topic Mention in project requirements about ptl election20:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Mention in project requirements about ptl election (Meeting topic: tc)"20:03
ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/29560920:03
ttxWe discussed this one last week20:04
*** kylek3h has joined #openstack-meeting20:04
ttxjust got enough votes, so I can approve that one too20:04
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting20:04
ttx#topic Change mission statement by recent change20:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Change mission statement by recent change (Meeting topic: tc)"20:04
*** ajmiller has joined #openstack-meeting20:04
ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/29261020:04
ttxThis one bakes the new mission statement in our charter.20:05
lifelessyay :)20:05
ttxAs for other charter changes, it's a special motion which requires 2/3 votes in favor20:05
ttxSo we are short of a few votes here20:05
flaper87ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301890/20:05
ttxno longer20:05
*** toscalix has quit IRC20:05
ttxflaper87: will approve that one as typo change20:05
ttxonce it passes tests20:05
flaper87sounds good20:06
* flaper87 happy with the new mission statement20:06
ttxalright approved20:06
*** tonytan4ever has quit IRC20:06
ttxGood to have brought that to conclusion20:06
* dims sneaks in20:06
ttx#topic Retire the kite/python-kiteclient projects20:06
*** openstack changes topic to "Retire the kite/python-kiteclient projects (Meeting topic: tc)"20:06
ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/29780320:06
annegentleahh, retirement20:07
*** eil397 has left #openstack-meeting20:07
ttxThis one is also a no-brainer. With the PTL approving it, we actually don't really need a formal vote on that one20:07
annegentlewhat a lovely word20:07
mesteryannegentle: I know, right?20:07
ttxSo I'll merge this one now unless someone objects.20:07
*** bobh_ has quit IRC20:07
mesteryttx: merge away!20:07
flaper87ship it20:07
ttxLESS projects!20:07
edleafego fly a kite!20:07
mesteryless is the new more20:07
sdagueflaper87: well... scuttle it20:07
ttxwe should probably have cleaned that one up a bit earlier :)20:07
jeblairdid the project git a readme update?20:07
ttxAlright. Now more interesting topics20:07
flaper87sdague: indeed, that's more appropriate20:08
ttxjeblair: it's just made unofficial, the repo is not attic-ed yet20:08
annegentlemestery: heh20:08
sdaguejeblair: it does not seem to have - https://github.com/openstack/kite20:08
sdaguethough it should be moved to the attic too I think20:08
jeblairttx: right, but maybe this is a good checkpoint to make sure that it gets cleaned up20:08
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting20:08
ttxone never knows maybe it will get a new life outside :)20:08
sdagueit has had 3 commits since Jan 1 2015 - https://github.com/openstack/kite/commits/master20:08
jeblairwe have a section on this: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#retiring-a-project20:09
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting20:09
ttxsdague: that's still more than all the packaging-deb repos combined20:09
jeblairi'm not suggesting we hold off on approving this change20:09
jeblairwhich is good, since it was just approved20:09
ttxjeblair: we could volunteer someone to properly follow-up with repo decommission20:09
jeblairbut maybe we could incorprate a checkpoint of "please do the steps in the infra manual" for this20:10
*** Leo_ has quit IRC20:10
anteayajeblair: 297719 29774120:10
jeblairanteaya: awesome!20:10
*** Leom has joined #openstack-meeting20:10
sdagueyeh, I think the biggest issue is getting someone that can approve those to pay attention20:10
ttxah! anteaya wins gerrit search award20:10
anteayathank you20:10
*** toscalix has quit IRC20:10
annegentlenice one anteaya20:11
ttxmoving on ?20:11
jeblairi think the infra team probably doesn't mind stepping in these cases if we have to20:11
anteayaannegentle: :)20:11
jeblairjust the more other folks do it the better :)20:11
*** apoorvad has quit IRC20:11
sdaguewell I'm throwing my +1 on both of those for support20:11
jeblairi will leave a comment on the governance changes pointing to those for reference20:11
annegentlejeblair: yeah, let someone test the docs for decommission :)20:11
ttx#topic Separating cross-project specs and guidelines20:11
*** openstack changes topic to "Separating cross-project specs and guidelines (Meeting topic: tc)"20:11
ttxthingee: care to introduce the topic ?20:11
lifelessnow the actual meeting bit :)20:11
ttxlifeless: yep, with plenty of time to spare20:12
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC20:12
*** sdake_ has quit IRC20:12
thingeeso in previous discussions within the cross-project team there seemed to be confusion with specifications.20:12
*** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting20:12
ttx#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090156.html20:12
ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296571/20:12
thingeethis first started with the product working group introducing a spec that seemed more like a wish list for rolling upgrades.20:13
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting20:13
thingeewe later agreed that we can't have a spec for rolling upgrades. You can share ideas of how to go about solving some problems in the area, but it is not applicable to all projects.20:13
thingeedansmith: am I on track so far ^ ?20:13
ttxI think we need to somehow separate things that have a start and an end, from things that are more living documents20:13
thingeeso this is formally recognizing those guidelines (which already exist) and the specs being separate things.20:14
flaper87I wonder if something like project team guide but for cross-project guidelines would work for this20:14
ttxI was thinking specs = finite efforts to reach a goal, and guidelines = living design doc20:14
dansmithttx: +120:14
dansmithI don't want specs for anything other than actual work to be done20:15
*** pabelanger has left #openstack-meeting20:15
dansmithand even then, sparingly20:15
ttxcan be same repo or different repo, same approval rules or different approval rules, but step 1 is to recognize the difference20:15
flaper87I wouldn't have it in the same repo20:15
sdaguewe should also figure out why we are creating any of these artifacts at all. Because my understanding with doing cross project specs was to provide a structured way to discuss a hard problem in detail to come up with a solution that would then make reviewing code for that solution easier20:15
thingeeso this is a first attempt. thanks to sdague for weighing in, otherwise, not too much feedback unfortunately.20:15
*** spzala has quit IRC20:15
sdaguebecause there was a reference document20:15
flaper87as far as the approval rules go, I think it's fine to let that to the cross-project repo chair20:15
sdagueand I think we should make sure than any artifacts we are building are actually helping us do something20:16
shamailthingee: would both specs and guidelines still need TC approval after separation?20:16
annegentleguidelines are great to have20:16
*** banix has quit IRC20:16
devanandasometimes there is an overlap between proscribing how to do a thing generally and designing how to solve a thing specifically20:17
ttxsdague: so my take on cross-project specs is that they are goals that affect more than one team and the cross-project spec repo is a neutral place to get consensus across teams boudaries20:17
thingeesdague: I think that's a later problem, but do recognize it as a problem. I have not really spent time, but I don't see how serious the community takes cross-project specs to begin with.20:17
carolbarrettThe intent behind the rolling upgrades cross-project spec proposal was to provide input on user requirements for upgrading openstack as a basis for defining project specific specs and blueprints.20:17
ttxwith guidelines informing the design of everything, cross-project or not20:17
*** asettle has joined #openstack-meeting20:17
devanandattx: +120:17
thingeeKind of goes with the api-wg. In previous TC discussions, a tag of following guidelines would be granted as an incentive20:17
sdagueso, lets take cross project spec #1 - which is the logging guidelines20:17
sdagueas a concrete example20:17
dansmithcarolbarrett: but we did that with the user story thing20:18
lifeless+1 sdague20:18
sdaguethat was used to get some convergence on logging patterns between projects20:18
sdagueand provide a reference for people going and fixing those in projects20:18
ttxsdague: I think it should have been two things. Guidelines, and then a spec to catch up existing projects to the expected level20:18
carolbarrettdansmith: The user story doesn't provide an implementation methodology across projects, that's what we were hoping to achieve for upgrades20:18
thingeetwo conversations going on..20:19
dansmithcarolbarrett: right, but it also including things we weren't going to do because the authors wanted it reflected in there20:19
jeblairttx: in that case is the spec more than "implement the guidelines?"20:19
dansmithcarolbarrett: so, we can't really have an implementation plan for something we're not going to do :)20:19
sdaguettx: and for something like logging, it's kind of a constant battle20:19
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting20:19
ttxjeblair: it lists assignees and projects too20:19
thingeesdague: so if it's on-going, then you can't have a spec. you have a guideline.20:20
ttxsdague: so maybe there is no catch-up spec because it's more of a continuous process20:20
sdaguettx: it assumes that it's a DONE able activity, my experience is it just hasn't been20:20
ttxsdague: yeah, maybe the spec #1 example is a corner case20:20
sdagueok, well regardless for what it's called, it was an artifact that did help a set of people make progress in a lot of places20:20
annegentleI think the guidelines would be useful beyond just for contributor teams.20:20
ttxIdeally all specs should be completable20:20
sdagueeven if there remains work to be done20:20
annegentlespecs should contain tasks.20:21
*** apoorvad has joined #openstack-meeting20:21
*** singhj has quit IRC20:21
flaper87Wonder if this cross-project guidelines could host guidelines from other working groups20:21
carolbarrettdansmith: through feedback we refine and reach an agreement on what's needed versus what the community will do. But we still need the spec for projects to gain that info...for future big tent projects too20:21
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting20:21
edleafeI think this is a vocabulary issue20:21
flaper87Rather than having separate docs and guidelines for every working group20:21
ttxI think retrofitting guidelines into teh spec repo kind of discouraged us to create more of them20:22
cdentMuch of this use of gerrit to have discussion to reach consensus on how to do stuff seems to stem from fear of email.20:22
edleafe'spec' means something specific, at least in Nova20:22
sdaguecdent: that's actually probably true. Though gerrit make it easier to see when things are converging20:22
ttxso, anyone disagreeing that specs and guidelines are fundamentally different ?20:23
*** maeca has quit IRC20:23
anteayaI am not disagreeing20:23
annegentlettx: the only additional difficulty is that some teams may have different definition for specs20:23
sdagueI feel like there is enough grey space I'm not sure it's worth the distinction20:23
*** bobh_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:23
sdaguebut that might just be me20:23
annegentlefor example, keystone documents concepts of their REST API in their specs repo20:23
cdentI think the debate is over which is more useful.20:23
annegentleI think I'll need to encourage that to stop, but it's another case20:24
devanandattx: I agree that they are different20:24
* flaper87 agrees they are different20:24
annegentleof team-to-team disparity20:24
carolbarrettSeems like its around level of detail...20:24
thingeesdague: so going back to the original problem. If someone felt they could write a spec on best practices for rolling upgrades, could it go in openstack-specs?20:24
sdaguecreating artifacts that help us solve a concrete thing is mostly my concern20:24
ttxsdague: that is fair.... I can totally see grey things. If everything is grey there, then we just produce a gradient of docs20:24
devanandaas an example of a finite unit of work that requires three projects: nova/ironic/neutron network integration20:24
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC20:25
ttxbut I'd argue most things are either white or black, not corner cases20:25
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting20:25
devanandabut I haven't seen anything yet in the cross project specs that stands out as affecting all projects AND being finite. that seems counter-intuitive when we have a growing tent ...20:25
thingeedevananda: deprecating clis in favor of osc20:25
jeblairdevananda: that's a good observation20:26
sdaguedevananda: right, which is part of the grey space. The closest thing to that was the CORS work.20:26
lifelessttx: I agree that the underlying concepts are different between 'guidance' and 'instruction'20:26
edleafe"Guideline" says "here is what you should be doing". "Spec" says "here is the specific way we are going to do it".20:26
dtroyer_zzstrategy vs tactics20:26
cdentspec, as edleafe is describing it, requires mandate20:26
lifelessttx: but I think pragmatically - if they are both binding, and both consensus built, I don't understand the value in splitting them up20:26
edleafedtroyer_zz: +120:26
devanandathingee: fair point. I'd agree that is finite, if it also mandated that no new projects create new CLIs20:26
*** jmckind_ has quit IRC20:26
carolbarrettdon't guidelines lead to specs?20:27
sdaguecarolbarrett: not really20:27
ttxedleafe: arguably in the logging guidelines case, you don't need a cross-project spec. You just need per-project specs (or even just a bug with an assignee)20:27
dansmithcarolbarrett: not IMHO20:27
ttxsince there is not so much value in tracking the coordination20:27
devanandalifeless: I believe the difference is that a spec is written, at least currently, in such a way as to define an end-state20:27
flaper87carolbarrett: it could even be the other way around20:27
lifelessttx: its like the whole overly-modelled split between 'bug' and 'blueprint' in Launchpad - that was actively harmful there, and I'm worried we're going down the same path here20:27
edleafettx: true. In the case of logging, it probably doesn't need a spec20:27
edleafeflaper87: ??20:28
sdaguelifeless: ++20:28
ttxcarolbarrett: a guideline could just trigger per-project specs or bugs, not necessarily a cross-project one20:28
flaper87edleafe: ?20:28
lifelessdevananda: dansmith has said specs reflect specific work to do, as being the key thing20:28
carolbarrettsdague: if you outline a task an operator wants to accomplish (guideline) then a spec would detail how that would be achieved in openstack. Is there another approach to this you would want to see used?20:28
*** pots1 has joined #openstack-meeting20:28
*** david-lyle_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:28
edleafeflaper87: guideline dependent on a spec?20:28
sdaguelets me less focused on buckets and more focused on what things would actually help us make specific improvements in openstack20:28
dtroyer_zzthe cross-project specs seem most useful in catching up existing projects, not so much for new work20:28
ttxlifeless/sdague: maybe we should go back to the original problem thingee set out to solve20:28
lifelessdevananda: a guideline about how things must be done is still an end-state, but its not specific work, and its never 'finished to be forgotten'20:28
carolbarrettttx: true, they may not always be cross project, but I don't think that's the case with rolling upgrades20:28
*** jichen has quit IRC20:28
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC20:29
sdaguettx: sure20:29
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting20:29
flaper87edleafe: not dependent... The message said "leading" and I can see how after implementing a spec we could come up with new guidelines20:29
*** david-lyle has quit IRC20:29
ttxthingee: what's wrong with the current fuzzy model ?20:29
*** david-lyle_ is now known as david-lyle20:29
ttx(timeboxing that to 10 more minutes, after that we have more topic to cover)20:30
* thingee finds to copy and paste his last message to sdague20:30
edleafeflaper87: ah, ok20:30
dtroyer_zzit seems like we need (wait for it) tags to signal some attributes of these docs, then leave them lumped together20:30
thingeesdague: so going back to the original problem. If someone felt they could write a spec on best practices for rolling upgrades, could it go in openstack-specs20:30
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting20:30
lifelessdtroyer_zz: the tagpocalypse is imminent20:30
annegentlethingee: why not the docs?20:30
sdaguethingee: if it was actually going to be useful in making concrete changes in openstack, sure20:30
*** merooney has quit IRC20:31
sdaguebut the actual artifact in question was not20:31
sdagueand worse, it was actually definitively wrong in many places20:31
flaper87well, but we would endup separating those in-tree anyway, right?20:31
carolbarrettannegentle: the capabilities don't exist to be documented...20:31
thingeesdague: for the millionth time, I agree and that's what I've been arguing for. :)20:31
gordcthingee:can we amend the best practice file(s) when we want?20:31
flaper87Like a folder for guidelines and one for actual specs20:31
lifelessflaper87: would we? we haven't so far20:31
ttxsdague: so it's not guidelines vs. spec, it's how realistic and informed the doc ends up being ?20:31
flaper87lifeless: we haven't but we're kinda acknowledging the distinction now20:31
sdaguettx: right, it's "is this artifact useful in making a concrete change in openstack"20:32
lifelessflaper87: well, maybe? I haven't seen an actual problem ascribed to the putative difference so far20:32
annegentlecarolbarrett: ok then specs are needed if the best practices capability won't actually work in a particular project20:32
flaper87and wondering whether that would go in or not is an proof of the distinction between those20:32
sdaguethat's where I've tried to push this line20:32
gordcthingee: i'm imagining something like 'this is how we did it in project a, this is how we did in project b, etc..., project c, see what works best'20:32
carolbarrettannegentle: +120:32
annegentlesdague: so for the service catalog, we had a nova owner right?20:32
sdaguemost of what's up in openstack-specs aren't right now20:32
*** vgridnev_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:32
thingeeso kencjohnston and carolbarrett someone needs to come in with actual technical information in the spec that follows what the community is *currently* doing.20:32
annegentlesdague: so while we were describing what we wanted, we had workers for tasks20:32
ttxsdague: ok then maybe the process works as designed20:33
dansmiththingee: and only things that actually apply to everyone20:33
lifelesswhat I'd like to ask20:33
dansmiththingee: like logging and api stuff20:33
lifelesswhat do we want to happen differently20:33
thingeedansmith: yes of course20:33
sdagueannegentle: right, we had owners invested in projects that were using this to make sure their work in a couple of projects (nova / keystone) would be constructive, and move the whole openstack ball forward20:33
lifelessat a conceptual level: not execution20:33
thingeettx: I'm done, thank you20:33
thingeeI will abandon the change and feel free to reference this discussion if the spec has issues after meeting the necessary requirements.20:34
annegentlesdague: and I know the loss of an ether pad sorta delayed filling in all the technical details but we had the tasks20:34
carolbarrettthingee: Thought the cross-project spec process was the approach to developing this...will take back to product wg and come up with another plan.20:34
annegentlecarolbarrett: I hesitate to put the service catalog up as an example since it's not great though :)20:34
sdagueannegentle: right, we had to compromise on details in the spec to set certain boundaries20:34
sdaguebut I feel like in that case it was useful concrete artifact to move that ball forward, and be able to reference that bit when working in projects that this was our direction20:35
* dansmith starts taking a drink every time sdague says "artifact"20:35
thingeecarolbarrett: well someone in the cross-project team could volunteer to help the product working group. Just so far, people that do have knowledge in the rolling upgrade area are very busy people.20:35
ttxok, looks like the anti-overclassification front won this one20:35
lifelessttx: we prefer to be called the peoples front of generality20:36
*** yamamoto has quit IRC20:36
dansmithlifeless: nice20:36
flaper87lifeless: lol20:36
sdaguelifeless: ++20:36
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting20:36
ttxOK, next topic then20:36
ttx#topic add warning to release:independent20:36
*** openstack changes topic to "add warning to release:independent (Meeting topic: tc)"20:36
ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/29930920:37
cdent("front" is very specific, perhaps "side")20:37
ttxI'll do my best impersonation of dhellmann for this one20:37
ttxDespite warnings, we had more than one project team realizing one week before Mitaka release that picking up an "independent" release model meant that they would not get listed in the "Mitaka" release page20:37
ttxWarnings including http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083726.html20:37
ttxit was apparently not clear enough that "not following the release cycle and release completely independently" also meant "not being part of the common end-of-cycle release"20:37
ttxSo this adds a warning to the tag description to further clarify that20:38
flaper87makes sense to me!20:38
ttxNote, independently-released projects still get listed on the releases website20:38
ttxjust not under "mitaka"20:38
*** shamail has quit IRC20:39
ttxWe seem to have enough votes in support20:39
ttxso I'll approve this one now20:39
*** unicell has quit IRC20:39
ttxThanks for him20:39
*** shamail has joined #openstack-meeting20:39
*** ihrachys has quit IRC20:39
ttx#topic Cross-project workshops at the Austin summit20:39
*** openstack changes topic to "Cross-project workshops at the Austin summit (Meeting topic: tc)"20:39
ttxsdague: floor is yours20:39
sdaguewe have 27 proposals here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions20:39
sdagueabout 1/2 the TC has weighed in20:40
sdaguewe'll probably be targetting 21 slots20:40
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting20:40
sdagueand I'd like to do the sorting and slotting on Thursday20:40
ttx(same as in Vancouver and Tokyo)20:40
sdagueso I'd ask that anyone on the TC that would like to voice opinions on the sessions please do so in the next 24 hours20:41
ttxhmm, no Vancouver only had 1420:41
anteayasdague: folks don't seem to feel that this is the right venue for my propsal (number 18) you can remove it20:41
ttxso.. same as Tokyo.20:41
sdaguehow does this time block on Thursday work for folks (in general)? as an adhoc time to do the scheduling20:42
sdagueanteaya: sure20:42
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting20:42
flaper87sdague: should work for me20:42
*** vgridnev_ has quit IRC20:42
ttxsdague: should be ok once I'm done with releasing20:42
*** unicell has quit IRC20:42
ttxthough I'm usually drunk then20:42
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting20:42
sdaguedrunk works20:43
sdaguewill make the schedule more fun20:43
jeblairttx: as long as there's a picture20:43
flaper87ttx: don't drink alone, dude! Bring the beverage to the meeting20:43
ttxjeblair: now it's all automated, no more paper20:43
ttxI blame dhellmann20:43
jeblairprint out the git repo20:43
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting20:43
*** dflorea has quit IRC20:44
sdagueTC members welcome, though if you've expressed opinions on the etherpad, it should be mostly not required. We'll have whoever is here build some draft schedule, and get it out for friday for people to poke at conflicts20:44
ttxsdague: ok so... TC review sessions today/tomorrow, then we gather somewhere to do scheduling fun20:44
ttxon Thursday20:44
sdagueat this time block20:44
sdague /done20:44
ttxsounds good. I did not create placeholder sessions for the cross-project stuff on the summit schedule since I had no idea how many we'd run20:44
jeblairsdague: just to be clear, the list of nicks for etherpad color -- that shuld be tc members only, right?20:45
sdaguejeblair: it should be20:45
jeblairok.  it may need some adjustment.20:45
sdaguewe had a few interlopers, but that was mostly cleaned up20:45
anteayayou still have sambetts|afk20:45
sdagueanteaya: I don't know if there are any votes recorded though, I'll look20:45
ttx#topic Video design summit moderator advice20:45
*** openstack changes topic to "Video design summit moderator advice (Meeting topic: tc)"20:45
anteayaI talked to someone last night and they removed themselves and their votes20:46
ttxWe are organizing to record the video this week, should be ready sometimes next week20:46
jeblairanteaya: thx20:46
sdagueanteaya: thanks20:46
anteayajeblair: sdague welcome20:46
ttxI proposed we take the same people that suggested advice on the etherpad and volunteer them to record the video20:46
*** maeca has quit IRC20:46
ttxexcept dhellmann is away next week, and proposed to delegate his part to dims20:46
flaper87sounds good to me20:47
flaper87happy to help20:47
ttxso this is the plan, it will probably look bad in the end but probably the best we can do in the remaining time20:47
* jeblair thinks everyone should delegate their part to flaper8720:47
*** sheel has quit IRC20:47
ttxshooting from the beach20:47
flaper87wait, what did just happen?20:47
shamailI'll be glad to help with production or summary resulting from this video session20:47
flaper87don't mess with my beach time20:47
* dtroyer_zz has a beach nearby to shoot from if needed20:48
* anteaya notes audio is way easier to edit and looks don't matter20:48
ttxshamail: ideally we'd turn that into something more long-term and well-recorded at some point20:48
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting20:48
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting20:48
ttx#topic Open discussion20:48
*** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: tc)"20:48
lifelesssdague: fine for me20:48
lifelesssdague: erm, actually, I may be on a call; will see20:49
ttxAlright, so time to buy jaypipes, lifeless, jeblair and markmcclain some drinks20:49
lifelessI will have commented either way20:49
ttxsdague: if we don't need lifeless we could move the scheduling stuff earlier20:49
jeblaircheers!  :)20:49
mordredeveryone needs lifeless20:49
sdaguettx: sure, either way20:49
* edleafe hands them all a virtual drink20:49
*** gordc has left #openstack-meeting20:49
ttxAt 11pm I tend to be drunk /and/ grumpy20:50
sdaguettx: feel free to counter propose an earlier time block20:50
ttxsdague: an earlier time block would prevent lifeless from joining, so I'd like to be sure he can't participate anyway before suggesting an earlier time20:50
lifelesssdague: this time slot is definitely free thursday20:50
sdagueI did this as default, because people are here. But it would let you be only medium drunk before participating if we move earlier20:50
lifelessttx: ^20:50
ttxlifeless: ok, let's keep it20:50
flaper87jaypipes, lifeless, jeblair, markmcclain u guys rock! Thanks for all the insights, work and lessons you've taught me so far :)20:51
ttxand if I can't join you can probably figure it out20:51
sdaguelifeless: right, your friday20:51
edleafesdague: so thoughtful20:51
*** baoli_ has quit IRC20:51
lifelesssdague: yes20:51
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting20:51
*** shamail has quit IRC20:51
sdaguettx: yeh, it will be draft schedule, I'll circle with you later in doing any pushes to the site20:51
ttxAnything else, anyone ?20:52
sdagueso we can do it without you.20:52
ttxRelease not looking too bad, except Keystone playing RC respin late fun20:52
sdagueif anyone has strong opinions about things looking like they might be near the cutline, please leave detailed notes to help with making those decisions20:52
ttxand dhellmann being pretty good at placing vacation time :)20:52
*** mrmartin has quit IRC20:53
ttxgood thing he mostly automated himself out of the release PTL job already20:53
* flaper87 wants to automate himself20:53
sdakei wish i could automate myself out of a job ;)20:53
*** sputnik13 has joined #openstack-meeting20:53
ttxRemember to vote for the TC election if you haven't already. Next week we'll gather the newly-elected members20:53
*** raildo is now known as raildo-afk20:54
*** ebalduf has joined #openstack-meeting20:54
ttx(if we are still around)20:54
ttxAny other discussion topic ?20:54
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting20:54
russellbsome group will gather, we assume20:55
annegentleany need for a post prior to summit?20:55
annegentleblog post20:55
ttxKeystone RC calls, so I don't mind closing shop early20:55
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting20:55
annegentlenot at all :)20:55
flaper87annegentle: don't think so, perhaps next week20:55
anteayattx: thank you20:55
ttxannegentle: we could talk about the mission statement change20:55
jeblairfinishing early is a good way to end the session :)20:55
flaper87but I don't think we'll need one until after the summit20:55
ttxbut I think we covered it in a previous edition20:55
* flaper87 stfu20:55
*** topol_ is now known as topol20:55
annegentleflaper87: sounds good ttx prolly already covered well enough20:56
russellbttx: it's also not really substantial, not important to promote or anything20:56
*** cshahani has quit IRC20:56
*** mickeys has quit IRC20:56
*** erlon has joined #openstack-meeting20:56
ttxrussellb: it *is* important but I think a past article basically mentioned it as done20:57
ttxbut then our friendly comms team can decide20:57
* ttx checks20:57
flaper87It was mentioned as done, AFAIR20:57
flaper87I think we're ok, tbh20:57
flaper87I don't mind doing a small blog post just for it but I think we're good.20:58
ttxit's a bit light, we don't even cite it20:58
flaper87ok, I guess we can have a blog post mentioning this20:58
ttxso maybe cover that and farewell to our long-standing members / mention new elected members20:59
*** jmckind has quit IRC20:59
flaper87I'll work on one and ask for reviews20:59
*** xarses has joined #openstack-meeting20:59
annegentleI think it's nice to do a wrap up one yeah ttx20:59
russellbttx: +120:59
ttxhttp://www.openstack.org/blog/2016/03/technical-committee-highlights-march-21-2016/ mentions it too but light too20:59
*** sputnik13 has quit IRC20:59
*** unicell1 has joined #openstack-meeting21:00
ttxAlright. Thanks everyone. This mitaka session went fast but it was not bad :)21:00
annegentleit was fast!21:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"21:00
openstackMeeting ended Tue Apr  5 21:00:30 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2016/tc.2016-04-05-20.01.html21:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2016/tc.2016-04-05-20.01.txt21:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2016/tc.2016-04-05-20.01.log.html21:00
*** unicell has quit IRC21:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC21:01
*** vgridnev_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:01
*** JRobinson__ has joined #openstack-meeting21:01
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting21:01
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting21:01
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting21:01
*** haomaiwang has joined #openstack-meeting21:01
*** myoung is now known as myoung|afk21:02
*** cdent has left #openstack-meeting21:02
*** mriedem has left #openstack-meeting21:03
*** darrenc_ is now known as darrenc21:05
*** yamamoto has quit IRC21:06
*** dmacpher has joined #openstack-meeting21:06
*** dflorea has quit IRC21:09
*** xarses has left #openstack-meeting21:09
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting21:09
*** toscalix has quit IRC21:10
*** thorst_ has quit IRC21:11
*** mrmartin has quit IRC21:12
*** maeca has quit IRC21:12
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:12
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting21:14
*** hashar has quit IRC21:14
*** jaypipes has quit IRC21:15
*** vgridnev has quit IRC21:15
*** mrmartin has joined #openstack-meeting21:16
*** esker has quit IRC21:16
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting21:16
*** thorst_ has quit IRC21:16
*** kylek3h has quit IRC21:17
*** piet has quit IRC21:17
*** sweston has quit IRC21:19
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting21:19
*** neiljerram has quit IRC21:19
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting21:20
*** knikolla has quit IRC21:20
*** larainema has quit IRC21:20
*** rtheis has quit IRC21:21
*** dflorea has quit IRC21:21
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting21:21
*** sweston has joined #openstack-meeting21:21
*** toddjohn has quit IRC21:22
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting21:22
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting21:22
*** larainema has joined #openstack-meeting21:23
*** dflorea has quit IRC21:23
*** baoli_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:23
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC21:23
*** mrmartin has quit IRC21:25
*** nadya has quit IRC21:26
*** baoli has quit IRC21:27
*** aysyd has quit IRC21:27
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:30
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:32
*** keedya has quit IRC21:33
*** sdake has quit IRC21:33
*** annegentle has quit IRC21:35
*** thorst_ has quit IRC21:37
*** sdake_ has quit IRC21:37
*** rfolco has quit IRC21:37
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting21:38
*** claudiub|2 has joined #openstack-meeting21:38
*** sdake has quit IRC21:39
*** knikolla has joined #openstack-meeting21:39
*** claudiub has quit IRC21:41
*** cshahani has joined #openstack-meeting21:41
*** amitgandhinz has quit IRC21:42
*** ItSANgo has quit IRC21:45
*** angdraug has quit IRC21:45
*** ItSANgo_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:45
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting21:46
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting21:46
*** esker has quit IRC21:46
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting21:46
*** clayton has quit IRC21:47
*** clayton has joined #openstack-meeting21:47
*** elopez has quit IRC21:48
*** tjcocozz has quit IRC21:48
*** tlbr has quit IRC21:48
*** elopez has joined #openstack-meeting21:48
*** tlbr has joined #openstack-meeting21:48
*** tjcocozz has joined #openstack-meeting21:49
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting21:50
*** yamamoto has quit IRC21:50
*** adahms has joined #openstack-meeting21:50
*** neelashah has quit IRC21:53
*** annegent_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:54
*** rebase_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:54
*** harshs has quit IRC21:55
*** annegentle has quit IRC21:56
*** harshs has joined #openstack-meeting21:56
*** rebase has quit IRC21:57
*** singhj has quit IRC21:57
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting21:58
*** harshs has quit IRC21:58
*** harshs has joined #openstack-meeting21:59
*** MaxPC has quit IRC21:59
*** harshs has quit IRC22:00
*** dflorea has quit IRC22:00
*** haomaiwang has quit IRC22:01
*** xyang1 has quit IRC22:01
*** haomaiwa_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:01
*** sigmavirus24 is now known as sigmavirus24_awa22:01
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting22:02
*** dflorea has quit IRC22:04
*** ndipanov has quit IRC22:05
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting22:06
*** dflorea has quit IRC22:07
*** bobh_ has quit IRC22:08
*** rockyg has quit IRC22:08
*** reedip__ has joined #openstack-meeting22:08
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting22:09
*** vgridnev_ has quit IRC22:09
*** dflorea has quit IRC22:12
*** edtubill has quit IRC22:12
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck22:12
*** busterswt has quit IRC22:13
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting22:14
*** timcline has quit IRC22:17
*** timcline has joined #openstack-meeting22:18
*** john-davidge has quit IRC22:18
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting22:19
*** rebase_ has quit IRC22:21
*** dflorea has quit IRC22:21
*** baoli_ has quit IRC22:22
*** rebase has joined #openstack-meeting22:22
*** john-davidge has joined #openstack-meeting22:23
*** timcline has quit IRC22:23
*** balajiiyer has quit IRC22:24
*** jckasper has quit IRC22:24
*** annegent_ has quit IRC22:26
*** karthikp has quit IRC22:27
*** rockyg has joined #openstack-meeting22:28
*** asingh has quit IRC22:29
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting22:29
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:31
*** dflorea has quit IRC22:34
*** spotz is now known as spotz_zzz22:34
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting22:35
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC22:35
*** lpetrut has quit IRC22:39
*** xiangxinyong456 has quit IRC22:40
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting22:42
*** galstrom is now known as galstrom_zzz22:43
*** rbak has quit IRC22:43
*** singhj has joined #openstack-meeting22:43
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck22:43
*** xiangxinyong456 has joined #openstack-meeting22:43
*** carolbarrett has quit IRC22:44
*** adahms has quit IRC22:45
*** asingh has joined #openstack-meeting22:45
*** xyang1 has joined #openstack-meeting22:46
*** jlwhite has quit IRC22:52
*** knikolla has quit IRC22:52
*** rockyg has quit IRC22:54
*** asingh has quit IRC22:59
*** mickeys has quit IRC22:59
*** xiangxinyong456 has quit IRC23:00
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting23:00
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC23:00
*** haomaiwa_ has quit IRC23:01
*** 16WAALNTP has joined #openstack-meeting23:01
*** xiangxinyong456 has joined #openstack-meeting23:03
*** knikolla has joined #openstack-meeting23:04
*** jckasper has joined #openstack-meeting23:04
*** sdague has quit IRC23:07
*** austin81 has left #openstack-meeting23:09
*** mickeys has quit IRC23:11
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting23:11
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC23:12
*** john-davidge has quit IRC23:13
*** xiangxinyong456 has quit IRC23:14
*** merooney has joined #openstack-meeting23:15
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:16
*** evolucion has joined #openstack-meeting23:16
*** garthb has joined #openstack-meeting23:18
*** singhj has quit IRC23:18
*** asettle has quit IRC23:19
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC23:21
*** evolucion has quit IRC23:21
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC23:21
*** merooney has quit IRC23:22
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting23:23
*** banix has quit IRC23:23
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting23:24
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting23:25
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting23:25
*** rebase has quit IRC23:25
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC23:26
*** cloudtrainme has joined #openstack-meeting23:27
*** jckasper has quit IRC23:27
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:28
*** thorst has quit IRC23:30
*** banix has joined #openstack-meeting23:32
*** cloudtrainme has quit IRC23:32
*** mickeys has quit IRC23:32
*** esker has quit IRC23:33
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck23:33
*** esker has joined #openstack-meeting23:36
*** banix has quit IRC23:37
*** adahms has joined #openstack-meeting23:41
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting23:41
*** tochi has joined #openstack-meeting23:42
*** dflorea has quit IRC23:44
*** xyang1 has quit IRC23:46
*** mickeys has quit IRC23:49
*** toddjohn has quit IRC23:49
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting23:49
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting23:49
*** gatekeep has joined #openstack-meeting23:50
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:50
*** toddjohn has quit IRC23:52
*** maeca has joined #openstack-meeting23:52
*** toddjohn has joined #openstack-meeting23:52
*** iyamahat has quit IRC23:53
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:53
*** maeca has quit IRC23:54
*** mickeys has quit IRC23:54
*** hichihara has joined #openstack-meeting23:55
*** sdake has quit IRC23:56
*** adiantum has joined #openstack-meeting23:57
*** dflorea has joined #openstack-meeting23:58
*** ajmiller has quit IRC23:58

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!