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| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 08:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 08:03:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:03 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 08:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 08:03 |
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| aspiers | hi all, who do we have today? | 08:03 |
| haukebruno | morning all. so it is 8 utc not 9 utc? | 08:03 |
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| aspiers | haukebruno: the meeting is at 9am Europe/London | 08:04 |
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| aspiers | as discussed last week | 08:04 |
| haukebruno | ah! I missunderstood that, thought it will be 9 UTC, but no problem for me :p | 08:04 |
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| aspiers | haukebruno: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-11-09.03.log.html#l-180 | 08:06 |
| aspiers | which reminds me I need to update the schedule | 08:06 |
| masahito | hi | 08:07 |
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| masahito | I've been here :) | 08:07 |
| samP_ | o/ | 08:08 |
| aspiers | hi guys :) | 08:08 |
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| aspiers | ok let's start | 08:08 |
| aspiers | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 08:09 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: ha)" | 08:09 | |
| aspiers | ddeja and I have been preparing our Austin talk | 08:09 |
| aspiers | it would be great if you could review the draft | 08:09 |
| aspiers | to make sure we represent each solution fairly | 08:10 |
| aspiers | we can share the URL maybe later today or tomorrow | 08:10 |
| aspiers | that's all from my side | 08:11 |
| haukebruno | cool, I am looking forward to read it. | 08:11 |
| moiz | hello everyone :) | 08:11 |
| aspiers | welcome moiz | 08:11 |
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| masahito | moiz: welcome | 08:11 |
| aspiers | anything from anyone else? | 08:11 |
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| masahito | I have | 08:12 |
| masahito | samP_ and me relased masakari 1.1.0 release | 08:12 |
| aspiers | cool | 08:12 |
| masahito | details are here. https://github.com/ntt-sic/masakari/releases | 08:13 |
| masahito | that's from our side. | 08:13 |
| aspiers | #info masakari 1.1.0 is out | 08:13 |
| aspiers | moiz: you want to summarize your experiments so far? | 08:13 |
| moiz | sure. | 08:14 |
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| moiz | 1. firstly, i deployed RHOS and tried out VM evac using pacemaker 1.1.13. i was successful in doing so after some debugging and fire fighting. and ran several evacuation and made a small benchmarking document (VM downtimes for different nova flavors) | 08:15 |
| moiz | 2. secondly, i moved to a canonical deploy with 14.04. i ran into several problems here. firstly, an outdated pacemaker version 1.1.10 held me down | 08:16 |
| aspiers | moiz: was that using the RH-supported code? | 08:17 |
| moiz | then i moved to 1.1.12 version and connected remote nodes. tried replicating the same testbed as in RHOS but i was not able to do that | 08:17 |
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| aspiers | 1.1.12 is still too old | 08:17 |
| moiz | i tried compiling 1.1.13 & 1.1.14 on the POD but ran into dependency issues. i asked ubuntu guys but they said move to 16.04 | 08:18 |
| aspiers | ah | 08:18 |
| moiz | right now i am trying out Masakari | 08:18 |
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| moiz | aspiers: yes | 08:18 |
| aspiers | is there documentation for the RH install process? | 08:19 |
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| moiz | i basically followed this link:https://access.redhat.com/articles/1544823 | 08:19 |
| aspiers | thanks | 08:19 |
| moiz | and beekhof post helped me alot in understanding the workflow http://blog.clusterlabs.org/blog/2015/openstack-ha-compute/ | 08:20 |
| aspiers | that blog is out of dateeeeeeeeeeeeee | 08:20 |
| aspiers | date :) | 08:20 |
| haukebruno | :p | 08:20 |
| aspiers | sorry, stuck keys | 08:21 |
| aspiers | keyboard is 15 years old | 08:21 |
| moiz | i have made a sort of a document which contains step by step guide from a vanilla install to setting up compute HA | 08:21 |
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| moiz | haha. | 08:21 |
| aspiers | cool | 08:21 |
| moiz | i replicated the RHOS 2 times and second time it went flawless | 08:22 |
| moiz | i can have update for you guys regarding Masakari 2 days from now :) | 08:22 |
| aspiers | moiz: I look forward to you trying SUSE OpenStack Cloud, where you can set up VM HA with just a few drags of the mouse | 08:22 |
| aspiers | you really didn't try the easiest option first ;-) | 08:22 |
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| masahito | moiz: sounds nice. I'm looking forward. | 08:23 |
| aspiers | we can provide you with an appliance .iso for quick install | 08:23 |
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| moiz | ahh.. wished i had talked to you guys earlier :) you all have been great help in my learning curve | 08:23 |
| moiz | aspiers: sure i would love that. | 08:23 |
| aspiers | moiz: I told you about it a long time ago ;-p | 08:23 |
| aspiers | anyway, it is good for you to try them all | 08:24 |
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| moiz | yes you did. but at that time i was already into RHOS and didnt want to leave it without a proper conclusion :p | 08:24 |
| aspiers | right | 08:24 |
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| moiz | After masakari i am going to try out SOC | 08:24 |
| aspiers | great | 08:24 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: any updates from you? | 08:24 |
| haukebruno | not :( | 08:25 |
| aspiers | no problem | 08:25 |
| ddeja | hi, sorry, I'm attending another meeting in the same time | 08:25 |
| aspiers | no need for the :( face ;-) | 08:25 |
| aspiers | ddeja: no problem | 08:25 |
| aspiers | #topic Austin | 08:26 |
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| aspiers | hope to see you all at our talk on Tuesday 3:40pm https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7327 | 08:26 |
| aspiers | I am also trying to get the PWG to arrange a meeting with us | 08:27 |
| aspiers | since they said VM HA is their #2 priority | 08:27 |
| aspiers | but nothing fixed yet | 08:27 |
| aspiers | also kgaillot (Pacemaker maintainer) suggested meeting Wed lunch or evening | 08:27 |
| aspiers | again nothing fixed yet | 08:28 |
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| ddeja | cool | 08:28 |
| aspiers | he might book a room if possible | 08:28 |
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| aspiers | let's keep watching #openstack-ha to finalize plans | 08:28 |
| samP_ | aspiers: thanks | 08:29 |
| aspiers | #info trying to finalize meeting plans, please watch #openstack-ha | 08:29 |
| aspiers | any other HA talks we should watch out for? | 08:29 |
| ddeja | I'm not aware of any | 08:30 |
| aspiers | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/8326 | 08:30 |
| masahito | aspiers: could you send a mail in ML? | 08:30 |
| aspiers | masahito: when something is fixed, yes | 08:30 |
| masahito | ok. | 08:30 |
| aspiers | masahito: or you mean, to help fix a time? | 08:31 |
| masahito | the official meeting is great! but, I wouldn't attend the meeting if it's just after Wed launch. | 08:31 |
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| aspiers | ok | 08:31 |
| masahito | because I have Congress meeting ;-) | 08:31 |
| aspiers | masahito: we meant Wed lunch, not after lunch | 08:32 |
| aspiers | "working" lunch | 08:32 |
| aspiers | but it was just an idea | 08:32 |
| masahito | oh, got it. | 08:32 |
| moiz | masahito: any other informational content on masakari ? i could only find your talk and github page. | 08:32 |
| aspiers | I would like to join the Congress meeting too :) | 08:32 |
| moiz | i am atm looking at the code itself to understand the internal workflow. | 08:33 |
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| masahito | moiz: I have the 2 stuffs about masakari. | 08:34 |
| aspiers | ok any other topics? | 08:34 |
| aspiers | the spec and user story still need reviews IIRC | 08:35 |
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| aspiers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289469/ | 08:37 |
| patchbot | aspiers: patch 289469 - openstack-user-stories - High Availability for Virtual Machines | 08:37 |
| aspiers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257809/ | 08:37 |
| patchbot | aspiers: patch 257809 - openstack-specs - Instances auto evacuation | 08:37 |
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| aspiers | even though the cross-project team voted to abandon the spec | 08:37 |
| aspiers | #action (anyone) review spec and user story | 08:38 |
| aspiers | also I plan to finish setting up openstack-resource-agents-specs this week | 08:39 |
| aspiers | I keep getting delayed on it | 08:39 |
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| aspiers | #topic AOB | 08:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: ha)" | 08:39 | |
| aspiers | anything else? | 08:39 |
| aspiers | if not we can finish early | 08:39 |
| haukebruno | how was the ha meetup last week in manchester? | 08:39 |
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| aspiers | haukebruno: it was very good! | 08:40 |
| haukebruno | poorly I didn't make it, 500 € just for the flight was too hard | 08:40 |
| aspiers | I did a live demo of SOC compute HA, and it worked perfectly :-D | 08:40 |
| haukebruno | aspiers, are there any slides outthere? | 08:40 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: are you coming to Austin? | 08:40 |
| haukebruno | oh very nice | 08:40 |
| haukebruno | no :( hard project deadlines and stuff | 08:41 |
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| aspiers | the slides are at http://aspiers.github.io/compute-ha-presentation/ | 08:41 |
| haukebruno | but the barcelona summit is blocked in my calendar | 08:41 |
| haukebruno | cool, thanks | 08:41 |
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| aspiers | but we will do a better version in Austin | 08:41 |
| ddeja | and there will be youtube video | 08:42 |
| aspiers | right | 08:42 |
| ddeja | so audio + slides :) | 08:42 |
| aspiers | so anyone coming to Austin should not look at those slides, to avoid spoiling the nice surprise ;-) | 08:42 |
| haukebruno | haha | 08:42 |
| aspiers | I'm joking, since we want masahito, samP_, beekhof etc. to review our draft slides | 08:42 |
| aspiers | but I will send the link for those later today or tomorrow when they are closer to ready | 08:43 |
| aspiers | btw does anyone know an OpenStack HA expert at Canonical? | 08:43 |
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| aspiers | anything else? otherwise we can finish | 08:45 |
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| aspiers | ok I guess not | 08:46 |
| aspiers | let's continue planning for Austin on #openstack-ha :) | 08:46 |
| haukebruno | thanks so far | 08:47 |
| masahito | bye | 08:47 |
| ddeja | bye | 08:47 |
| aspiers | oh, of course we will cancel the meeting next week | 08:47 |
| aspiers | #info no meeting next week | 08:47 |
| samP_ | thx and bye | 08:47 |
| aspiers | and the week after I am on holiday | 08:47 |
| moiz | bye guys :) | 08:47 |
| aspiers | maybe we will all need a rest then anyway ;-) | 08:47 |
| aspiers | thanks and see some of you in Austin! | 08:47 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 08:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 08:47:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-18-08.03.html | 08:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-18-08.03.txt | 08:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-18-08.03.log.html | 08:47 |
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| beekhof | aspiers: i thought we moved the meeting? | 09:38 |
| aspiers | beekhof: yes we did | 09:38 |
| aspiers | beekhof: 8am UTC now | 09:38 |
| beekhof | oh | 09:39 |
| aspiers | I just updated the wiki and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307002/ | 09:39 |
| patchbot | aspiers: patch 307002 - openstack-infra/irc-meetings - switch HA meetings to daylight savings | 09:39 |
| beekhof | i cant really make that, thats dinnertime | 09:39 |
| beekhof | btw. go check out senlin | 09:39 |
| aspiers | we have a section on senlin in our talk | 09:39 |
| aspiers | and we've mentioned it in the last few meetings :) | 09:40 |
| aspiers | is there something specific to check out? | 09:40 |
| aspiers | beekhof: so you don't have daylight savings there? | 09:40 |
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| beekhof | aspiers: we do, but we just finished it | 10:14 |
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| beekhof | http://www.worldtimebuddy.com | 10:14 |
| aspiers | beekhof: ah, of course - your summer is opposite to ours :-/ | 10:14 |
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| edleafe | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 14:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | So... anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | oops | 14:01 |
| edleafe | #endmeeting | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 14:01:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:01 |
| andreykurilin__ | :) | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-04-18-14.00.html | 14:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-04-18-14.00.txt | 14:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2016/nova_scheduler.2016-04-18-14.00.log.html | 14:01 |
| andreykurilin__ | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 14:01:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreykurilin__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:01 |
| ikhudoshyn | 0/ | 14:01 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:02 |
| Yanyanhu | hello | 14:02 |
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| andreykurilin__ | \o | 14:03 |
| andreykurilin__ | let's wait a bit | 14:03 |
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| andreykurilin__ | boris-42 stpierre: ping | 14:03 |
| * stpierre is here | 14:04 | |
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| andreykurilin__ | good | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin__ | ok, let's start | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin__ | good news - we have an agenda for today:) | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin__ | #topic [andreykurilin] Release 0.4.0 | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[andreykurilin] Release 0.4.0 (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:05 | |
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| andreykurilin__ | This topic was planned as happy news :) | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin__ | but we have problems with cutting release | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin__ | the process was changed | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin__ | and now we unable to cut release easier | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin__ | we need to do it via openstack/releases repo | 14:07 |
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| ikhudoshyn | we're under big tent, so bi bro's watching | 14:08 |
| ikhudoshyn | ) | 14:08 |
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| andreykurilin__ | I push a change for new release, but gates queue is too big (250+ changes) | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307139/ | 14:08 |
| patchbot | andreykurilin__: patch 307139 - releases - Release Rally 0.4.0 | 14:08 |
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| Yanyanhu | andreykurilin__, gate is almost broken now... | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin__ | yeah:( | 14:08 |
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| andreykurilin__ | so cores please do not merge anything before new release come | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: hi | 14:09 |
| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: hi | 14:09 |
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| andreykurilin__ | PS: release notes were merged | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: so now we should make that patch? | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: instead pushing tag by hands? | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: yes | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: heh=( no freedome | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin__ | yeah | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin__ | release notes for new release | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin__ | #ling http://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/release_notes/archive/v0.4.0.html | 14:10 |
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| andreykurilin__ | ok, let move to the next topic) | 14:11 |
| andreykurilin__ | [andreykurilin] Planning for next release | 14:11 |
| andreykurilin__ | #topic [andreykurilin] Planning for next release | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[andreykurilin] Planning for next release (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:11 | |
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| rvasilets | hi | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin__ | as we discussed several meeting ago, next release should implement wrappers/utils refactoring spec | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin__ | #link https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/refactor_scenario_utils.rst | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin__ | lets discuss our steps | 14:13 |
| andreykurilin__ | and policy | 14:13 |
| amaretskiy | proposal - let's include trends report (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276721/) to plans for next release | 14:14 |
| patchbot | amaretskiy: patch 276721 - rally - [Reports][CLI][CI] Introduce Trends report | 14:14 |
| andreykurilin__ | I propose to not stop merging fix to partial wrappers/utils until work for this partial service is not started | 14:14 |
| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: I believe andreykurilin__ was askin' bout wrappers stuff policy )) | 14:14 |
| rvasilets | When we will start implement services and who will do this? | 14:14 |
| andreykurilin__ | ikhudoshyn: +1 :) | 14:15 |
| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: I think boris-42 wanted to implement the base stuff:) | 14:15 |
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| rvasilets | Ok boris-42 will implement base and who will move glance, nova, murano... etc to service base?) | 14:16 |
| amaretskiy | i can do this work but boris-42 told me that there are some tasks waiting for me (I do not know what exact tasks) | 14:16 |
| rvasilets | Will we split this work to the whole team? | 14:16 |
| ikhudoshyn | I'm pretty busy as well | 14:16 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: +2 | 14:16 |
| rvasilets | Or this will be done by one person7 | 14:17 |
| stpierre | iirc we had discussed boris-42 doing the base and keystone, and just getting that into the next release | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: I want to stop merging those things as well and just start working on the base | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | stpierre: that's like minial goal | 14:17 |
| stpierre | and waiting for the subsequent release to try to get other services done | 14:17 |
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| boris-42 | stpierre: nope I was talking about having at least keystone done in next release | 14:17 |
| rvasilets | ok boris will move keystone I can help with some other part | 14:18 |
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| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: why we can't merge small fixes to glance wrapper for example if we don't start work on it? | 14:18 |
| stpierre | andreykurilin__++ | 14:18 |
| andreykurilin__ | let's block patches only for keystone stuff now | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | because they are unneeded | 14:19 |
| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: why? | 14:19 |
| boris-42 | stpierre: andreykurilin__ is it so hard to do the services base? | 14:19 |
| stpierre | it makes sense to declare each wrapper deprecated once we have an actual WIP to replace it, but given how busy everyone has just declared themselves i think it's awfully optimistic to pretend that we'll get this all done quickly enough | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | andreykurilin__, because we will rewrite then in the nearest month | 14:19 |
| stpierre | boris-42: i dunno, the spec took well over 6 months to get merged, i don't expect anything else to be any quicker | 14:19 |
| stpierre | rvasilets: and in the mean time there are real actual bugs that people are dealing with | 14:20 |
| boris-42 | stpierre: the spec wasn't not on priority | 14:20 |
| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: we will use existing code as a base for new services | 14:20 |
| boris-42 | stpierre: and nobody reviewed it | 14:20 |
| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: so we can improve it and fix issues | 14:20 |
| rvasilets | we have a lot of bugs and they are not critical as others | 14:20 |
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| stpierre | we can't just declare the wrappers dead code and ignore any issues with them without having a replacement | 14:21 |
| andreykurilin__ | stpierre: +1 | 14:21 |
| rvasilets | why not?) | 14:21 |
| stpierre | once we even have a replacement WIP i absolutely think we should block changes to the wrapper, but we haven't even started work on the base class, let alone the individual services | 14:21 |
| stpierre | because there are real actual bugs that currently exist and are affecting people | 14:22 |
| boris-42 | stpierre: agree on this | 14:22 |
| stpierre | there are scenarios that we can't run | 14:22 |
| stpierre | that's not an abstract "we", that's us, cisco -- we have important internal work that is blocked on actual rally bugs | 14:22 |
| stpierre | that we have a fix in review for | 14:22 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok, it looks like we have an agreement | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin__ | :) | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: stpierre ok let's merge small fixes | 14:23 |
| stpierre | let's be sure to communicate well when work on a new service starts | 14:23 |
| andreykurilin__ | nice | 14:23 |
| stpierre | so we can block further changes to that wrapper | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: stpierre however what I don't like is porting old scenarios to wrapper and adding more work on this | 14:23 |
| stpierre | honestly, i think that should serve as a motivator to get us to write the services faster | 14:24 |
| andreykurilin__ | :) | 14:24 |
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| stpierre | but in general i concur, let's keep any fixes as small as is practical | 14:25 |
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| andreykurilin__ | Can we move to the next topic? | 14:26 |
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| andreykurilin__ | since we have an agreement | 14:26 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok | 14:26 |
| andreykurilin__ | #topic [amaretskiy] Let's revive DB refactoring spec and give it high priority, since we can not effectively switch to new task format without this spec | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[amaretskiy] Let's revive DB refactoring spec and give it high priority, since we can not effectively switch to new task format without this spec (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:26 | |
| andreykurilin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167060/ | 14:27 |
| patchbot | andreykurilin__: patch 167060 - rally - [spec] Making DB scalable and flexible enough | 14:27 |
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| amaretskiy | we have to do a lot of changes in database schema - adopt it for new task results format, add extra data about workloads and cloud and so on | 14:28 |
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| amaretskiy | #link https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/new_rally_input_task_format.rst | 14:28 |
| amaretskiy | it's time to revive spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167060/ | 14:28 |
| patchbot | amaretskiy: patch 167060 - rally - [spec] Making DB scalable and flexible enough | 14:28 |
| amaretskiy | we can do all these changes well without spec | 14:29 |
| ikhudoshyn | I'm working on it | 14:29 |
| amaretskiy | I propose to plan this patch for next rlease | 14:29 |
| amaretskiy | ikhudoshyn: great! | 14:29 |
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| ikhudoshyn | new patchset would be available in a next couple days | 14:29 |
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| ikhudoshyn | yet i'd like to warn that it's implementation may take pretty much long | 14:30 |
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| andreykurilin__ | It is sad | 14:31 |
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| ikhudoshyn | since predicted schema change gonna be huge I plan to implement it piece by piece | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | let's add a high priority to this patch and review new patch sets without delay | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | any comments? | 14:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | at least let's set hi prio to the spec)) | 14:32 |
| amaretskiy | sure :) | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: ikhudoshyn seems like that we have more priority tasks than people | 14:32 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok | 14:32 |
| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: heh | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | what about trying to push this release services bases and just pause everything else | 14:33 |
| andreykurilin__ | hm... | 14:33 |
| rvasilets | agree | 14:33 |
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| rvasilets | big agree | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | I don't think that trends or new db are rising problem (it's like constant amount of work to it now or in one release) | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok I'm fine with that | 14:33 |
| andreykurilin__ | perfect | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | however we are getting every day new plugins and using more and more wrappers | 14:34 |
| andreykurilin__ | stpierre: you should be happy:) | 14:34 |
| stpierre | heh | 14:34 |
| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: ok, I can work on nova service | 14:34 |
| rvasilets | me on glance for example | 14:35 |
| andreykurilin__ | stpierre: do you want to take some service to yourself? :) | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | I'll try to finish the spec and would probably need some time off in the nearest future | 14:35 |
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| andreykurilin__ | amaretskiy: and you? | 14:35 |
| rvasilets | stpierre, you can take glance if you like) | 14:35 |
| stpierre | seems like we should prioritize glance, cinder, keystone, and nova-net/neutron, since those are the wrappers we have | 14:35 |
| stpierre | i'll do glance | 14:35 |
| amaretskiy | i can take network service | 14:36 |
| rvasilets | i'll take cinder then... | 14:36 |
| andreykurilin__ | amaretskiy: Could you take neutone/n-net ? | 14:36 |
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| andreykurilin__ | since you was an author of old wrapper:) | 14:36 |
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| amaretskiy | andreykurilin__: network service? sure | 14:37 |
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| andreykurilin__ | thanks | 14:37 |
| rvasilets | and could handle heat also | 14:38 |
| rvasilets | i'll try to use help of heat core | 14:38 |
| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: I think redixin could do it | 14:38 |
| andreykurilin__ | but he is not here now | 14:38 |
| rvasilets | there is vm | 14:39 |
| rvasilets | maybe redixin will do vm?) | 14:39 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok, boris-42: we are waiting for base classes ;) | 14:39 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: ok | 14:39 |
| rvasilets | year) | 14:39 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: I will try to manage to get this soon | 14:39 |
| rvasilets | *yeah | 14:39 |
| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: thanks | 14:39 |
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| andreykurilin__ | anything else for this topic? | 14:40 |
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| rvasilets | I think no) | 14:40 |
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| andreykurilin__ | zuul queue contains 355 patches... | 14:41 |
| andreykurilin__ | ;( | 14:41 |
| andreykurilin__ | #topic [yanyanhu] Basic support for Senlin service in Rally: | 14:41 |
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| andreykurilin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/298109 | 14:41 |
| Yanyanhu | hello, everyone :) | 14:41 |
| rvasilets | o/ | 14:41 |
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| andreykurilin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/307170 | 14:41 |
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| Yanyanhu | hi, I'm from Senlin team | 14:41 |
| andreykurilin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/307050 | 14:41 |
| Yanyanhu | we hope to use Rally to benchmark Senlin service | 14:42 |
| andreykurilin__ | \o/ | 14:42 |
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| Yanyanhu | so we proposed a patch to add basic support for senlin into rally | 14:42 |
| Yanyanhu | https://review.openstack.org/298109 | 14:42 |
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| Yanyanhu | this one | 14:42 |
| Yanyanhu | and I just proposed patch to infra to add gate job | 14:43 |
| Yanyanhu | here: https://review.openstack.org/298109 | 14:43 |
| Yanyanhu | and local plugins and jobs in Senlin repo: https://review.openstack.org/307170 | 14:43 |
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| Yanyanhu | but I think the following two ones rely on the basic senlin support patch to work :) | 14:44 |
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| andreykurilin__ | Yanyanhu: why do you want to store all your plugin at the local repo? | 14:44 |
| Yanyanhu | we hope to contribute them to rally's repo | 14:45 |
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| andreykurilin__ | nice | 14:45 |
| Yanyanhu | but not sure whether we should do that :) so I temporarily keep them in senlin's reop | 14:45 |
| Yanyanhu | repo | 14:45 |
| andreykurilin__ | so I'm ok with mergin support of senlinclient to our repo now | 14:45 |
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| Yanyanhu | thanks andreykurilin__, with that patch being merged, more code for senlin plugin can be added :) | 14:46 |
| Yanyanhu | and also jobs | 14:46 |
| andreykurilin__ | Yanyanhu: btw, clients entity in rally is a pluggable too, so you able to store it in local repo too ;) | 14:46 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: yep I don't think that we should block this | 14:47 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: I think that we need just to help to get CI job done for this | 14:47 |
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| Yanyanhu | I see. | 14:47 |
| andreykurilin__ | Yanyanhu: can you add your experimental job to our project too? | 14:47 |
| rvasilets | will we create experimental job at Rally7 | 14:47 |
| Yanyanhu | sure | 14:47 |
| Yanyanhu | I will | 14:47 |
| andreykurilin__ | nice | 14:47 |
| rvasilets | nice | 14:47 |
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| rvasilets | =) | 14:48 |
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| Yanyanhu | thanks you guys :) | 14:48 |
| andreykurilin__ | so as soon as we got new release we will be able to merge your base patch | 14:48 |
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| Yanyanhu | got it | 14:48 |
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| andreykurilin__ | I think it will done in a day(zuul is dead) | 14:48 |
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| Yanyanhu | yes... the gate is broken I think | 14:48 |
| andreykurilin__ | anything else? | 14:49 |
| rvasilets | for this topic?) | 14:49 |
| andreykurilin__ | yes | 14:49 |
| rvasilets | тщ | 14:49 |
| rvasilets | no | 14:49 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok | 14:49 |
| andreykurilin__ | #topic [andreykurilin] Make Glance V2 the default version | 14:49 |
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| andreykurilin__ | as far as I know, Glance V1 will deprecated soon | 14:49 |
| andreykurilin__ | I think we should switch to use V2 by default | 14:50 |
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| andreykurilin__ | Last week we merged several patches for compatibility with it (thanks to stpierre ylobankov) | 14:51 |
| stpierre | i'd like some extra eyes on the image creation code in rally for glance v2 | 14:51 |
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| stpierre | AFAICT glance v2 is really and truly horrible and the code is correct, but before we make it the default i'd just like to double- or triple-check that we aren't doing anything stupid | 14:52 |
| stpierre | or at least, no more stupid than we need to be to deal with glance v2 | 14:52 |
| andreykurilin__ | :) | 14:52 |
| rvasilets | ok | 14:52 |
| stpierre | #link https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/wrappers/glance.py#L151-L196 | 14:52 |
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| stpierre | if that checks out, then +1 to making glance v2 the default | 14:53 |
| andreykurilin__ | a bit of magic | 14:53 |
| andreykurilin__ | lol | 14:53 |
| rvasilets | I could ask in glance chat will we do everything correct | 14:53 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok, let's switch to glance v2 as soon as stpierre propose patch for it :D | 14:53 |
| rvasilets | )) | 14:53 |
| stpierre | andreykurilin__: sounds good :) | 14:54 |
| andreykurilin__ | perfect | 14:54 |
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| andreykurilin__ | Do we have more topics? | 14:54 |
| rvasilets | yes I want to ask review to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283180/ | 14:55 |
| patchbot | rvasilets: patch 283180 - rally - [Spec] Rally Task Validation refactoring | 14:55 |
| andreykurilin__ | nop | 14:55 |
| andreykurilin__ | :D | 14:55 |
| rvasilets | =((( | 14:55 |
| rvasilets | crying | 14:55 |
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| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: please, no... | 14:55 |
| andreykurilin__ | I'll try to review it this week | 14:55 |
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| andreykurilin__ | anything else? | 14:56 |
| rvasilets | So please review it. And after services we will be able to refactor validators | 14:56 |
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| rvasilets | nothing else | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242329/ actually is waiting for boris-42 eyes | 14:56 |
| patchbot | ikhudoshyn: patch 242329 - rally - Transform DB layer to return dicts, not SQLAlchemy... | 14:56 |
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| andreykurilin__ | boris-42: ^ | 14:57 |
| andreykurilin__ | we need you | 14:57 |
| ikhudoshyn | others are welcome as well | 14:57 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: ok | 14:57 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok, let's finish | 14:57 |
| andreykurilin__ | thank you all | 14:57 |
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| andreykurilin__ | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 14:57:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-04-18-14.01.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-04-18-14.01.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-04-18-14.01.log.html | 14:57 |
| ikhudoshyn | seeya | 14:58 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 15:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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| mmedvede | hi all | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello mmedvede | 15:01 |
| anteaya | how are you? | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | mmedvede: well you be at summit next week? | 15:01 |
| anteaya | will | 15:01 |
| mmedvede | doing good myself, but our CI is a bit of trouble with internal network | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | oh? | 15:02 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: yes, I'll be at the summit | 15:02 |
| lennyb | hi | 15:02 |
| anteaya | great, I hope to see you there | 15:02 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: I am Austin local | 15:02 |
| anteaya | hey lennyb | 15:02 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: how easy for you then :) | 15:02 |
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| mmedvede | would be great to meet people there, first summit for me | 15:03 |
| anteaya | #info so next week this third party meeting and the third party meeting at 0800 utc on Tuesday are skipped | 15:03 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: oh how lovely | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | so that announcement was all I had today | 15:04 |
| anteaya | that next week's meetings are skipped | 15:04 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: did you want to discuss your issue? | 15:05 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: or is it just internal network issues? | 15:05 |
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| mmedvede | anteaya: no, it is purely internal network problem. I.e. server a can not send packets to server b | 15:05 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:05 |
| mmedvede | nothing interesting for people here | 15:05 |
| anteaya | yeah fair enough | 15:05 |
| anteaya | lennyb: did you have anything you wanted to discuss today? | 15:06 |
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| lennyb | first of all we are setting new CI setup, and asselin ( and others ) Common solution is easy and nice to work with | 15:06 |
| anteaya | yay! | 15:07 |
| anteaya | great to have that feedback, thank you | 15:07 |
| lennyb | another issue is: I am looking for 'Citrix XenServer CI check' #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294425/ | 15:08 |
| patchbot | lennyb: patch 294425 - tempest - Set timeout value in urllib3.poolmanager.PoolManager | 15:08 |
| lennyb | I was trying to compare tempest results, but find neither html report nor details of the CI contact | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | from the comment on the patch you linked above: Contact info: openstack@citrix.com. | 15:09 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: thanks, I missed it somehow | 15:10 |
| anteaya | the xenserver ci wikipage: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/XenServer_CI | 15:10 |
| mmedvede | also, from here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Debugging_XenServer_CI_failures - "The primary maintainer of the CI is BobBall on IRC who can also be reached at the openstack@citrix.com mailing alias." | 15:10 |
| lennyb | thanks. | 15:11 |
| anteaya | and BobBall is the irc nick of the maintainer | 15:11 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: thanks | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: do you have what you need? | 15:12 |
| lennyb | yes, thanks. | 15:12 |
| anteaya | wonderful | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | BobBall is really attentive and is a good maintainer | 15:12 |
| anteaya | if you have difficultly contacting him let me know | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | keep in mind this close to summit he is probably preparing to travel | 15:13 |
| anteaya | he usually attends summit | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | so do we have anything else to discuss today? | 15:14 |
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| lennyb | nope | 15:14 |
| mmedvede | not from me | 15:14 |
| anteaya | wonderful | 15:14 |
| anteaya | I don't have anything else today either | 15:14 |
| anteaya | thanks for your kind attendance and participation | 15:14 |
| anteaya | I won't see you in this meeting next week | 15:15 |
| anteaya | I will see you in this meeting the week after | 15:15 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: I look forward to meeting you at summit | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | enjoy the rest of your day/evening | 15:15 |
| anteaya | thannk you | 15:15 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 15:15:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-18-15.00.html | 15:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-18-15.00.txt | 15:15 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: thanks | 15:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-04-18-15.00.log.html | 15:15 |
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| matjazp | hi all | 17:01 |
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| matjazp | anyone here for the training guides meeting? | 17:04 |
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| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 17:05:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:05 |
| matjazp | roll call | 17:06 |
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| matjazp | I guess everyone is busy packing stuff for the Summit | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | #info meeting canceled | 17:13 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 17:13 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 17:13:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-04-18-17.05.html | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-04-18-17.05.txt | 17:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-04-18-17.05.log.html | 17:13 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 18:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:01 |
| adam_g | o/ markmcclain ryanpetrello elo rods | 18:01 |
| markmcclain-mobi | o/ | 18:01 |
| elo | hola | 18:01 |
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| adam_g | hey guys | 18:04 |
| adam_g | still not much to chat about other than austin next week | 18:04 |
| adam_g | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/astara-newton-summit | 18:05 |
| adam_g | any ideas for topics to disuss should be added there | 18:05 |
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| markmcclain-mobi | cool | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | im personally working on some downstream stuff this week and last so i haven't got much to discuss | 18:09 |
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| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:10 |
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| markmcclain-mobi | We should welcome back ryanpetrello ... I'm sure he's digging out of his backlog | 18:13 |
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| adam_g | oh right | 18:13 |
| adam_g | all hail the new PTL | 18:13 |
| markmcclain-mobi | Thanks to you for filling in the last few weeks. | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | no worries | 18:16 |
| adam_g | so not much else to discuss. unless anyone has anything, we can just we can just catch up next week | 18:17 |
| adam_g | i think we'll skip next week's IRC meeting since most of us will be at summit | 18:17 |
| markmcclain-mobi | Yeah makes sense to skip | 18:17 |
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| adam_g | ok well i guess we can call it. look forward to seeing everyone next week | 18:18 |
| markmcclain-mobi | See everyone then | 18:18 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 18:19:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-04-18-18.01.html | 18:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-04-18-18.01.txt | 18:19 |
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| * mestery yawns | 20:58 | |
| * johnsom agrees | 20:58 | |
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| armax | mestery: espresso? | 20:59 |
| armax | johnsom: you too? | 21:00 |
| mestery | armax: Please, make it a double | 21:00 |
| johnsom | +1 | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | armax: I want a espresso... | 21:00 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery is always yawning | 21:00 |
| armax | mestery: you bored? | 21:00 |
| armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 18 21:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| mestery | armax: Just tired. So very, very tired. | 21:00 |
| dasm | armax: are you trying to invite everyone for a coffee in Austin? | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| blogan | hello | 21:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| pmath | hey mlavalle! | 21:01 |
| hichihara | hi | 21:01 |
| yamahata | hello | 21:01 |
| yamamoto | hi | 21:01 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:01 |
| armax | thanks everybody for joining this meeting | 21:01 |
| annp | hello | 21:01 |
| Sukhdev | o/ | 21:01 |
| mestery | armax: yw | 21:01 |
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| mestery | :) | 21:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | y helo | 21:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 21:01 |
| armax | this is the week ahead of the summit and I know that many of view are superbusy | 21:01 |
| johnsom | It's getting warm here, so inverse hibernation | 21:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 21:01 |
| armax | johnsom: I am having this meeting with my speedo on | 21:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | eh | 21:01 |
| johnsom | Things you can't unsee | 21:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this a dev brothel or a meeting? | 21:02 |
| armax | that’s my strategy to keep the meeting short! | 21:02 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 21:02 |
| armax | I guess it’s working | 21:02 |
| armax | anyhoo | 21:02 |
| armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
| armax | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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| mestery | armax: TMI! | 21:03 |
| armax | some of you must be aware already | 21:03 |
| armax | the schedule for the neutron sessions is available | 21:03 |
| armax | #link v | 21:03 |
| armax | #undo | 21:03 |
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| armax | for those you may wonder, yes, I haven’t got a new keyboard yet | 21:03 |
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| armax | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A | 21:03 |
| armax | so please do make sure you spot glaring errors about conflicts etc | 21:04 |
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| armax | if you are a session chair or not, come and talk to me if you want to get any update reflected | 21:04 |
| dasm | Wed and Thu in the same spot. neat | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | who is providing the beverages? | 21:05 |
| armax | There are more sessions that are related to Neutron | 21:05 |
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| armax | that link doesn’t show them all | 21:05 |
| armax | for instance, on Tuesday, there are a bunch of cross project ones | 21:05 |
| armax | like the one Sukhdev promoted | 21:05 |
| armax | and for instance the one we’re having in the Nova’s time on Wed morning | 21:06 |
| Sukhdev | yes - please look for Ironic-neutron session at 4:40pm on Tuesday | 21:06 |
| armax | so be on the lookout | 21:06 |
| anteaya | #info searching with the schedule app: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091186.html | 21:07 |
| mlavalle | armax: the nova-neutron joint meeting is Wednesday 11:00 - 11:40, Hilton hotel | 21:07 |
| armax | anteaya, mlavalle thanks | 21:07 |
| anteaya | the magicial colon is important when searching with the schedule app | 21:07 |
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| Sukhdev | armax : Can I take a moment to make the annocement about the Ironic-neutron session? | 21:07 |
| armax | Sukhdev: didn’t you take it already? | 21:07 |
| Sukhdev | ha ha - | 21:08 |
| armax | Sukhdev: I can’t stop you, now can I? | 21:08 |
| Sukhdev | wanted to share an etherpad | 21:08 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-baremetal-networking | 21:08 |
| armax | Sukhdev: you got my permission | 21:08 |
| Sukhdev | We need some critical mass from neturon side to attend this session | 21:08 |
| Sukhdev | such as armax kevinbenton akihiro rossela | 21:09 |
| armax | Sukhdev: are you saying that I am fat? | 21:09 |
| jckasper | Sukhdev: link to that session ? | 21:09 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-26&summit_types=2&tags=3601 | 21:10 |
| Sukhdev | look for 4:40pm session | 21:10 |
| armax | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9491?goback=1 | 21:10 |
| armax | jckasper: ^ | 21:10 |
| Sukhdev | Ideally, we want an API to support Multiple VLAN netoworks on a single port | 21:10 |
| jckasper | thanks | 21:10 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: you have it already | 21:10 |
| Sukhdev | kind of like Vlan aware VMs - but, we would like a general purpose API from neutron | 21:11 |
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| Sukhdev | so that it can be used for BM as well | 21:11 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody who has interest in this topic, please join that session | 21:11 |
| armax | I would add, come prepared | 21:11 |
| Sukhdev | yes thanks armax | 21:12 |
| Sukhdev | I am done thanks armax | 21:12 |
| armax | there’s substantial work done in this arew with http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/mitaka/vlan-aware-vms.html | 21:12 |
| armax | if there are gaps, these should be documented somewhere | 21:12 |
| armax | there’s a review out: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277853/ | 21:12 |
| armax | and that somewhere should be neutron’s RFEs | 21:13 |
| Sukhdev | Yes, that is why we want all the relevant players in one place so that we can identify any overlaps and conflicts and come up with a unified solution/API | 21:13 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: let me absolutely clear about this | 21:14 |
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| armax | I would rather give http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/mitaka/vlan-aware-vms.html time to mature in the context of virtual workloads | 21:15 |
| armax | this means that this should be our objective for Newton | 21:15 |
| armax | anyhow, we’ve taken more than a moment, let’s move on | 21:15 |
| armax | last of the reminders | 21:16 |
| armax | we have an entire day to have more focussed discussions on Friday | 21:16 |
| armax | the etherpad is | 21:16 |
| armax | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-unplugged-track | 21:16 |
| armax | I appreciate that most people end up flying out sometime early in the last day of the summit, but if you are indeed around | 21:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can i bring my acoustic guitar? | 21:17 |
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| armax | Sam-I-Am: I suppose the silence means, yes you can | 21:19 |
| armax | Ok moving on, unless someone else has an announcement to make | 21:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool. we can sing together. | 21:19 |
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| anteaya | :) | 21:19 |
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| kevinbenton | What is the format of the sessions? | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | On Wed and Thursday | 21:20 |
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| kevinbenton | Big room? | 21:20 |
| dougwig | last time the room was not nearly big enough. | 21:20 |
| armax | kevinbenton: big rooms | 21:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | neutron sessions make me feel like a sardine | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | and most of those people dont provide useful input | 21:21 |
| johnsom | I hope it's one of those "everything is bigger in Texas" moments | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | they just exist to complain | 21:21 |
| dougwig | i meant the contributor meetup. | 21:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so maybe we need our secret meeting :) | 21:21 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: things are getting better summit after summit | 21:21 |
| xgerman | *aaS was always meeting somewhere else | 21:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know of some back alleys in austin | 21:21 |
| blogan | the weather is bigger in texas atm | 21:21 |
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| armax | #topic Blueprints | 21:22 |
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| Sukhdev | Sam-I-Am is that a good thing or bad :-) | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | Sam-I-Am: usually everyone gets into this community with a complaint ;) | 21:22 |
| xgerman | as long as they server beer in those alleys | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | that's a way of saying "hello I am here to help, because everything is a mess" | 21:22 |
| armax | last two meetings ihrachys and I went through the current workload to see if assignee/approver were still valid | 21:22 |
| armax | we went through the entire list | 21:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | xgerman: its austin, so yeah... except you'll have to wait 2 hours in line | 21:23 |
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| armax | a few others got kicked out relatively early from mitaka and appear as deferred in this list | 21:24 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron | 21:24 |
| armax | we’re figuring out what to do with those, but if you do know something, please reach out | 21:24 |
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| armax | one last thing re: blueprints | 21:25 |
| armax | I have seen people going on https://launchpad.net/neutron and registering blueprints ignoring the RFE process altogether | 21:25 |
| armax | I mark those BP’s as obsolete | 21:25 |
| armax | until a while ago I was giving an explaination, but I have lost the will to scold and I simply mark them obsolete | 21:26 |
| mestery | armax: Let your iron fist rain down fire on those who ignore the process! :) | 21:26 |
| ihrachys | how dare they | 21:26 |
| njohnston | What should I do if I see a bug that says '[RFE]' in the title but is not tagged with the 'rfe' tag? Refer them to the drivers team? | 21:27 |
| mestery | Honestly, the fact that people can even do that with Launchpad means that Launchpad is not the right tool | 21:27 |
| armax | the https://launchpad.net/neutron landing page has clearly stated that for submitting blueprints/RFE and defect reports instructions are available at: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html | 21:27 |
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| armax | njohnston: when in doubt add the tag, and we’ll clean it up | 21:27 |
| njohnston | armax: Thanks, will do | 21:27 |
| armax | mestery: we’re working within the constraints of the tool we have | 21:27 |
| mestery | armax: Yup, I'm just pulling a salv-orlando and providing insight from the sidelines | 21:28 |
| armax | mestery: give me a level and I will lift the world said a genius | 21:28 |
| armax | mestery: but I am no genius so I don’t know what else to do | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | besides as the latin said "repetita iuvant" | 21:28 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: lol | 21:28 |
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| njohnston | +1 for lingua latina | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | armax: he said lever | 21:29 |
| anteaya | armax: wasn't it a lever? | 21:29 |
| Sukhdev | whats that ? | 21:29 |
| anteaya | I'm all for working it over again with level | 21:29 |
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| salv-orlando | according to armax it was a level | 21:29 |
| anteaya | much better | 21:29 |
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| armax | #link http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/archimedes101761.html | 21:29 |
| armax | no it’s lever | 21:29 |
| mestery | No one is questioning the lever armax :) | 21:30 |
| armax | #link http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/lever | 21:30 |
| anteaya | I think yours is better | 21:30 |
| armax | not sure I understand the source of confusion | 21:30 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 21:30 |
| armax | the quote or the object? | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | give me a level and I will beat the monster at the end, said the genius of arcade videogames | 21:30 |
| ihrachys | :D | 21:30 |
| njohnston | I've always heard it as 'give me a fulcrum', but I think that is just because fulcrum sounds cooler. | 21:30 |
| Sukhdev | :-) | 21:30 |
| armax | anyhoo we’re clearly digressing | 21:30 |
| * mestery can tell we're all ready for summit | 21:31 | |
| anteaya | njohnston: fulcrum inplies lever | 21:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | this is how you bike shed even regular words | 21:31 |
| anteaya | njohnston: it isn't a fulcrum without a lever | 21:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | good jorb, neutron | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | njohnston: yeah like the MIG-29 fulctrum (ok I will stop it now) | 21:31 |
| Sukhdev | Looks like this crowd is ready for a beer | 21:31 |
| armax | I appreciate people’s effort to keep the conversation alive, btw | 21:31 |
| dougwig | the shed is a rainbow | 21:31 |
| armax | it means people are reading! | 21:31 |
| armax | #topic Bugs | 21:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the shed is black from all the colors. | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: with many levels | 21:31 |
| mestery | armax: Your words are like poetry | 21:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | paint it black | 21:31 |
| armax | mestery: you’re welcome | 21:32 |
| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: ha ha ha | 21:32 |
| * anteaya changes the playlist | 21:32 | |
| armax | ok, I think last week deputy was reedip | 21:32 |
| armax | this week is blogan | 21:32 |
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| blogan | armax: nope last week was me | 21:32 |
| armax | sorry | 21:33 |
| armax | you’re right | 21:33 |
| dougwig | sounds like blogan is doing it again! | 21:33 |
| armax | I misread the last entry in the table | 21:33 |
| blogan | sounds like dougwig just volunteered himself! | 21:33 |
| armax | so we need a volunteer for this week | 21:33 |
| armax | and possibly next week | 21:33 |
| armax | any taker? | 21:33 |
| mestery | Note for any potential takes: These are the light weeks | 21:34 |
| dougwig | i'll do this week. | 21:34 |
| mestery | dougwig: lol | 21:34 |
| mestery | :) | 21:34 |
| blogan | i could have sworn someone volunteered last week for this week | 21:34 |
| armax | the job comes with a signed picture from me | 21:34 |
| armax | as a gift | 21:34 |
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| johnsom | I remember someone taking this week as well | 21:34 |
| armax | #action dougwig deputy for the week of Apr 18 | 21:34 |
| * ihrachys already have the photo to pick up | 21:35 | |
| dougwig | no more amazon gift cards? | 21:35 |
| armax | johnsom: both haleyb and john-davidge offered | 21:35 |
| armax | ihrachys: since you were one of the earliest you also got a frame with it | 21:35 |
| armax | dougwig: those if for code contributions | 21:35 |
| armax | s/if/are | 21:35 |
| dougwig | armax: sigh. | 21:36 |
| blogan | armax: do you think i could get a strand of your hair? | 21:36 |
| njohnston | "the job comes with a personally signed email containing my LinkedIn profile, with the heartfelt sentiments 'I'd like to add you to my professional network' engraved." | 21:36 |
| armax | blogan: what hair? like I had anything left | 21:36 |
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| boden | who needs hair -- waste of time! | 21:36 |
| blogan | armax: exactly, its even more valuable | 21:36 |
| johnsom | Creepiest neutron meeting ever.... | 21:36 |
| armax | blogan: ok, let me grow some I just shaved last week | 21:36 |
| armax | mestery: tmi? | 21:36 |
| blogan | lol | 21:37 |
| armax | ok, before moving on | 21:37 |
| armax | let’s look at our dear grafana | 21:37 |
| armax | which reminds me that last week we had a bump in our api job strategy | 21:37 |
| armax | we put it back to non-voting temporarily to switch to using tempest-plugin | 21:38 |
| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | I saw an interesting failure. Default security group creation hit a db deadlock. Then the retry mechanism kicked in as expected | 21:39 |
| armax | kevinbenton: is there a bug report? | 21:39 |
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| kevinbenton | And every attempt after failed with a "no such save point error" | 21:39 |
| armax | kevinbenton: did that show up in the gate or check queue? | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | Not yet | 21:39 |
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| kevinbenton | Showed up in a rally run | 21:39 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ack | 21:39 |
| armax | we should also monitor | 21:40 |
| armax | #link http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/ | 21:40 |
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| armax | and | 21:40 |
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| armax | #link http://status.openstack.org//elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html | 21:40 |
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| armax | in particular to see if there are signatures for new failure modes | 21:40 |
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| * njohnston bookmarks | 21:40 | |
| anteaya | armax: thank you | 21:41 |
| anteaya | summit would be a great place for those folks looking to learn how to catagorize those uncatagorized failures | 21:41 |
| armax | for some reason, something is unsettled with fullstack | 21:41 |
| armax | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen | 21:41 |
| armax | #link v | 21:42 |
| armax | #undo | 21:42 |
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| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen | 21:42 |
| armax | then there’s this very worrying upward trend with grenade multi | 21:42 |
| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=6&fullscreen | 21:42 |
| armax | has anyone looked into it? | 21:42 |
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| kevinbenton | Is that check or gate? | 21:43 |
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| armax | multi with dvr | 21:43 |
| armax | that’s check | 21:43 |
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| njohnston | armax: Looks like fullstack jinked upwards yesterday, in a couple of increments over the day: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?from=1460865600000&to=1460951999999 | 21:43 |
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| ihrachys | I did not know about grenade one. I will take a look tomorrow. | 21:43 |
| armax | ihrachys: to be fair | 21:45 |
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| armax | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299844/ | 21:45 |
| armax | this got merged last nite | 21:45 |
| armax | so it may be a simple reflection of more data points | 21:45 |
| ihrachys | ack. if no one gets to it till my morning, I will take a look. | 21:45 |
| ihrachys | ... and if you do, please drop something my way so that I am aware. | 21:46 |
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| armax | ihrachys: no sorry | 21:46 |
| armax | I am getting confused | 21:46 |
| armax | ihrachys: I take back what I said, the grenade multi that’s spiking up is not multi | 21:46 |
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| ihrachys | armax: how come | 21:48 |
| armax | ihrachys: I mean is not dvr, | 21:49 |
| * armax is having a hard time tracking all the multiple ice cream flavors we have | 21:49 | |
| ihrachys | ok. what I see on the graph is: grenade multinode is below usual multinode jobs. so it probably just reflects some issues with the latter. | 21:49 |
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| ihrachys | since it runs less tests, it fails less frequently than -full | 21:50 |
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| armax | ihrachys: let’s take this offline | 21:51 |
| armax | but we definitely want to understand what’s going on before we go ahead with | 21:51 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299843/ | 21:51 |
| armax | sc68cal: ^ | 21:51 |
| armax | ok, moving on | 21:52 |
| armax | #topic Docs | 21:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | moo. | 21:52 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: do you have anything for us? | 21:52 |
| armax | I have a couple of docs patches I am waiting to review | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing in particular. i've been busy working on a summit pres. trying to work through updating the scenarios for mitaka, but its been hard to find time. | 21:53 |
| armax | nudge to carl_baldwin, tidwellr | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dropped working on the install guide for N, so hopefully i'll have more time to focus on the networking guide (including reviews) | 21:53 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: ack. :) | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've seen a few reviews. just cant focus on them right now. | 21:53 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: do you have an update on the api docs progress? | 21:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | and apparently we dont have a lot of other people reviewing | 21:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | no, i dont. that'd be an anne gentle thing. | 21:54 |
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| anteaya | this was the last I saw on that | 21:55 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091157.html | 21:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats about where i'm at now | 21:55 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: ack | 21:55 |
| njohnston | I had an interesting conversation with agentle earlier this week. I noticed that while create network/update network API calls get extra QoS-related arguments when the QoS plugin is installed, those are not reflected in the API guide on the page that talks about those API calls. | 21:55 |
| armax | Sam-I-Am: thanks | 21:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont follow api much, just too much to track | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | we probably should have someone here who tracks api docs, patches, etc. | 21:56 |
| njohnston | I asked if the extra arguments should be grouped with the API calls or with QoS, and she said to add an additional bit plus example under the generic case for the API calls. Just FYI for all. | 21:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | one person can't do all the docs stuff | 21:56 |
| anteaya | sorry meant to link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090659.html | 21:56 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090659.html | 21:56 |
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| armax | Sam-I-Am: I can’t say I disagree | 21:57 |
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| armax | ok, 2 mins left | 21:58 |
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| armax | before we leave I wanted to share this link with you folks | 21:58 |
| armax | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4cDyM2s2bc&feature=youtu.be | 21:58 |
| armax | OpenStack Design Summit - Tips for session moderatorsOpen | 21:58 |
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| armax | whether or not you’re a session moderator at this summit, it’s good to keep those notes in mind | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | arrive drunk | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats it | 21:59 |
| rossella_s | thanks armax | 21:59 |
| armax | and help for a smooth summit | 21:59 |
| njohnston | thanks armax | 21:59 |
| armax | bye folks | 21:59 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 18 21:59:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-04-18-21.00.html | 21:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-04-18-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-04-18-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
| mestery | bye | 21:59 |
| hichihara | bye | 21:59 |
| yamamoto | bye | 21:59 |
| mlavalle | bye | 21:59 |
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| njohnston | valete! | 22:00 |
| annp | bye | 22:00 |
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| anteaya | what is that animal on the wall behind ttx's head? | 22:00 |
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| njohnston | it looks like a wild bacon beast | 22:00 |
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| anteaya | yeah, never seen anything like that before | 22:02 |
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