Thursday, 2016-09-08

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thinrichscourtesy ping: ramineni_, ekcs, aimeeu, masahito00:01
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thinrichsTime for the Congress meeting00:01
thinrichs#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting00:01
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aimeeuhello!00:02
ekcshi all00:02
thinrichsHi all00:02
thinrichsHere's agenda for this week..00:03
ramineni_hi00:03
thinrichs1. Testing for newton release00:03
thinrichs2. First project teams gathering00:03
thinrichs3. Status00:03
thinrichsAnything else?00:04
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thinrichsWe'll start with number 200:04
thinrichs#topic First project teams gathering00:04
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thinrichsHere's Thierry's announcement about how the OpenStack conference and design summit are being split00:05
thinrichs#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/102981.html00:05
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thinrichsOr at least, that's the announcement for the first occurrence of the design summit after the split00:05
thinrichsOne of the ramifications is that the Ocata session will be slightly shorter than normal.00:06
thinrichsThe bigger consequence is that there will be 4 OpenStack events per year instead of 2.00:07
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thinrichsWe'll all need to figure out how travel budgets will impact our ability to congregate and coordinate which events we'll be attending.00:08
thinrichsQuestions, comments?00:08
aimeeuHave you heard whether the Project Team Gatherings will be held outside of North America once a year?00:08
thinrichsI have no info outside the mailing list.00:08
thinrichsSo no.  I don't know where they're planning on holding events.00:09
aimeeuOK - there's nothing on the official FAQ either.00:09
thinrichsI'd guess they'd rotate it like they do today, given how many international contributors there are00:09
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aimeeuthat would be fair00:09
thinrichs#topic Testing for newton00:10
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thinrichsToday I was trying to test HA/HT and realized I don't know exactly how to do it.00:10
thinrichsThe HA guides are a start.00:10
thinrichsHas anyone set up the full HAHT of Congress and done manual testing?00:11
thinrichsMultiple PE+API nodes, 1 DSD node, a load-balancer00:11
thinrichsrunning with the other OpenStack components like Nova/Neutron00:11
ekcsnot yet. still working to finish automated testing.00:11
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ramineni_not yet00:12
ekcswe need to add load-balancer instructions to guide.00:12
thinrichsDo we know how to set it up with devstack?00:13
thinrichsIt'd be nice if we could spin up devstack to get all the other components.00:13
thinrichsThen to spin up Congress on 2 other VMs00:13
thinrichsMaybe 3 VMs (2 for PE+API and 1 DSD)00:13
thinrichsAnd then 1 VM for a load balancer00:13
ekcsshould be relatively straightforward.00:14
ramineni_devstack problem is we cant start 2 PE+API like we discussed before00:14
ramineni_because they start on same node?00:15
ekcsjust need to start other instances of congress using the same configs, after devstack is done setting up.00:15
thinrichsramineni_: Even if we could start 2 PE+APIs inside devstack, we'd want to test on separate nodes.00:15
ramineni_right00:15
thinrichsDevstack only runs on 1 node, right?00:15
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aimeeudevstack can run on multiple nodes00:15
ramineni_multinode is there i suppose..but i dont know how that works00:15
clarkbyou can also run multiple processes on a single instance too00:16
thinrichsekcs: If I remember right, a standalone Congress install isn't trivial.  And we'd need to add rabbitmq00:16
clarkbmight need to modify devstack to make that happen though00:16
aimeeuhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/guides/multinode-lab.html00:16
thinrichsaimeeu: thanks for the link00:17
aimeeuI haven't yet tried to do that00:17
thinrichsclarkb: is that the right link to help us, would you say?00:17
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thinrichsDoes anyone know how other teams test their HA deployments?00:17
ekcsthinrichs: right…00:17
thinrichsDo they automate the whole thing with puppet/ansible/…?00:18
clarkbthats basically how the gate multinode works, we run devstack twice once on each node with different settings for each00:18
thinrichsclarkb: naive question: do the 2 devstack nodes communicate correctly over rabbitmq?00:19
clarkbthinrichs: yes00:19
clarkbits a functionaing two node cloud. One node is controller + compute all in one and the second node is a compute host00:19
ekcshmm that’d be helpful to leverage devstack to set up additional nodes. cuz manual install in complex like thinrichs said. will have to slog through devstack settings I guess to do it correctly.00:20
ekcsand add to the plugin piece.00:21
thinrichsSeems we'd want 4 devstack nodes then: 1 with everything but congress, 2 with just Congress in PE+API mode, and 1 with just Congress in DSD mode.00:21
thinrichsThen we'd just need a LB, and we could (manually) test.00:21
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aimeeuthinrichs: is this helpful? Manual validation of cinder a/a patches:  http://gorka.eguileor.com/manual-validation-of-cinder-aa-patches/00:22
thinrichsThat doesn't sound too bad, since we probably all have a devstack VM we can clone a few times00:22
thinrichsaimeeu: that looks really helpful—exactly the kind of testing we're trying to do00:23
thinrichsI'll take an action item to try to get something working and report back.00:23
thinrichsAnyone else want to give it a try, so we don't have 1 point of failure?00:23
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ekcsI can take a look too, but atm I’m prioritizing00:24
ekcssame node diff process testing.00:24
thinrichsekcs: you're busy getting the auto testing in place00:24
thinrichsekcs: right that that's higher priority00:24
thinrichsI should be able to find the time to do this00:25
thinrichs#action thinrichs will set up multi-node manual testing and report back on how to do it00:25
thinrichsMoving on...00:25
thinrichs#topic Status00:25
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thinrichsramineni_: want to give your status update?00:26
ramineni_sure00:26
ramineni_added a non-voting multiple PE gate job, so we could test it properly00:27
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ramineni_and fixed some of the issues we came across the HA testing00:27
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ramineni_thats it from my side00:28
thinrichsAny of those issues during HA testing worrisome?00:28
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ramineni_still no stable yet ..hopefully we will get it done.. eric is working on that too00:28
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thinrichsok00:29
thinrichsaimeeu: want to go next?00:29
aimeeuok00:29
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aimeeuI've been looking into configuring Congress for pydevd remote debugging. Looked at several OpenStack projects - I like the way Trove handles it. Tried implementing it in Congress - didn't work but I am learning quite a bit about how Congress starts up; also looking at historical code changes in github regarding congress installation on devstack. I have00:29
aimeeuquestions that I'll put into an email later after I've organized my thoughts.00:29
aimeeuthat's it for me00:30
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thinrichsaimeeu: thanks.  Let us know if you need any help digging through the startup code00:30
aimeeuthanks - will do00:30
thinrichsekcs: want to go next?00:31
ekcssure.00:31
ekcsMostly resolving testing issues with HAHT. Getting the tempest test to stabilize. Still not sure why occassional errors occur with instances not converging.00:31
ekcsHoping that local multi-process testing will shed more light. I have a basic local multi-process test framework setup. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358927/00:31
patchbotpatch 358927 - congress - WIP - local HA tests00:31
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ekcsit’s working on my machine, but somehow failing on gerrit. I’m hoping it’s not because of a system config that disallows spawning new processes and http’ing them.00:32
ekcsbut even if it ultimately doesn’t work in gerrit it’s still useful tests to have in place.00:33
ekcsother than that, just identifying scattered issues and bugs as I go.00:33
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clarkbyou cant bind to privileged ports in those jobs but you can use many of the other thousands of ports00:34
clarkbrunning tox should not require root00:34
thinrichsclarkb: spinning up new processes is allowed (e.g. with subprocess.Popen)?00:35
ekcsclarkb: ah great.00:35
clarkbthinrichs: yes00:35
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ekcsI’m using ports 4001 and 4002.00:35
thinrichsWe're passing cwd=helper.root_path().  Could that be a problem on a different machine?00:36
ekcsthinrichs: shouldn’t be because it’s relative to the helper.py file.00:37
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ekcsthinrichs: but still worth checking at some point.00:37
thinrichsI can do a quick status update00:38
ekcsanyway the failure is that I Popen a new congress server, and then http it, but connertion fails exceeding retry limit.00:38
ekcsthinrichs: didn’t mean to cut you off.00:40
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thinrichsNothing jumps to mind, other than a firewall on the OS.00:40
thinrichsekcs: no problem00:40
thinrichsDid some manual testing.00:40
thinrichsReasonably comprehensive within devstack.  Not trying corner-cases, but just hitting all the core functionality.00:41
thinrichsSome testing across processes; seems good too.00:41
thinrichsGetting a real HAHT env set up is next00:41
thinrichsDid notice we're returning some stack-traces as part of the HTTP error message.00:42
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thinrichsThat's some low-hanging fruit I'd say.00:42
thinrichs#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/162086800:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1620868 in congress "Stack trace returned to end-user" [Undecided,New]00:42
thinrichsaimeeu: might be a good one to take on00:42
aimeeuyep I was just looking at it00:43
thinrichsThat's it from me.00:43
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thinrichsaimeeu: cool!00:43
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thinrichsJust found out I need to leave the meeting early today (in 2 min).00:43
thinrichsAnything else for me before I take off?00:43
thinrichs#topic open discussion00:43
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thinrichsI'll try to make ekcs chair before I leave…00:44
thinrichs#chair ekcs00:44
openstackCurrent chairs: ekcs thinrichs00:44
ramineni_im on vacation next week , wont be able to attend meting00:44
ekcsclarkb: any suggestions for how to see if a port may be blocked on a gerrit vm?00:44
thinrichsramineni_: okay.  Thanks.  Enjoy your vacation!00:44
thinrichsThat reminds me.  I can't make the meeting either.  I'll be traveling.00:44
clarkbekcs: I can look at job logs in a minute00:44
clarkbI'm over in #openstack-infra00:45
thinrichsekcs: can you run next week's meeting?00:45
ekcsclarkb: got it thanks so much.00:45
ekcsthinrichs: sure thing.00:45
thinrichsGot to run.  See you all later!00:45
ekcslater.00:46
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ekcsso… anything else to discuss? or should we just end early?00:47
ekcsanyone followed why the design summit split?00:47
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ekcs4 events a year is A LOT00:48
aimeeuI heard it was to facilitate better inter-team collaboration00:48
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aimeeuas well as to provide developers with a better working atmosphere - something about too many parties at the regular Summit (gossip of course)00:48
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ekcshahaha.00:49
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aimeeuthe Foundation said it was going to look at boring cities for the gatherings00:49
clarkbekcs: I think that your pe1 and pe2 objects are local to setUp and will be GC'd so there isn't anything listening for the cleint to connect to00:50
aimeeubut I agree - 4x/year is a lot. The FAQ said it's up to individual teams to decide which events to attend00:50
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ekcsclarkb: oh thanks a lot for the help! But Hmm I didn’t know that it mattered if the process handle got GC’ed.00:51
clarkbif your process isn't backgrounding that means it gets killed I think. (and it probably shouldn't background as init won't know what to do with it)00:52
ekcsclarkb: plus, the failure is occurring within setUp where I http to the new process just after starting up.00:53
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clarkbah I see that now maybe you aren't waiting long enough for the listening process to actually bind?00:53
clarkbalso typically we will recommend you listen on port 0 then get the actual port somehow to avoid conflicts between test00:54
ekcsclarkb: I could retry longer. But I tihnk it’s up to 20s now. should be plenty?00:54
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clarkbdepends on the process you are starting. I don't know how long it will take00:55
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ekcsclarkb: oh that sounds like something I should learn more about. starting on port 0 then get port.00:55
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ekcsclarkb: is there an example of that somewhere? Thanks so much! I’m very new to this.00:56
clarkbalso both processes use the same sqlite db (not sure sqlite will like that) and the path is rooted to a path that may not exist? not sure how that gets translated to a disk path00:56
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ekcsclarkb: Right I’ll need to be careful with sqlite. Thanks!00:57
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ekcsclarkb: it may be that the path translation works differently between my machine and gerrit. thanks for the pointer!00:58
ekcsanyway we’re coming up to time. anything last minute?00:58
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clarkbI don't recall the location of any good port 0 usage off the top of my head. But when you use port zero linux gives you a free port to listen on then you have to determine which port it is someway. YOu can ask the scoket object ni python. But this ensures you don't have conflicting port use between threads or processes00:58
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ekcsclarkb: got it thanks for the crash course!00:59
ekcsAlright time’s up.00:59
ekcsThanks all!00:59
ekcs#endmeeting01:00
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clarkbekcs: my other suggestion would be to get logging out of the subprocesses and expose that in your test01:00
clarkbcould just be they are failing and we don't capture the logs/output in those tests01:00
ekcsclarkb: yup thanks. That’s my next TODO. Could be something failing due to sqlite.01:01
ekcsclarkb: Thanks a TON! You’ve probably saved me multiple days =p01:01
clarkbno problem01:02
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gmann#startmeeting qa08:59
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  8 08:59:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'qa'08:59
gmannwho's here for today?08:59
masayukigo/08:59
hferenc\o09:00
* masayukig was surprised at a little bit early starting :)09:00
gmannmasayukig: hferenc:  hi09:00
gmannmasayukig: oh is it :)09:00
dmelladohi guys09:00
hferenchi09:00
* dmellado too was surprised, xD09:01
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masayukigdmellado : heh :)09:01
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gmannits was already 09.00 UTC in my PC :)09:01
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gmannandreaf: afazekas mkoderer : ping for meeting in case available09:02
masayukiggmann : heh, you need a ntpd or something like that :)09:02
gmannmasayukig: its from internet how it can be wrong :)09:02
dmelladogmann: lol09:02
gmannanyways let's start the meeting09:03
* masayukig nods09:03
gmann#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_September_8th_2016_.280900_UTC.2909:03
gmannToday agenda ^^09:03
gmann#topic Newton Priorities09:04
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gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-qa-newton-priorities09:04
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gmannwe will not go with each topic.09:04
gmannI think the highest priority cleanup one is around 40% done09:05
masayukigcool09:05
gmannbut there are lot of things still pending which we can target in code sprint09:06
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gmannfor other items also we will discuss in code sprint09:06
dmelladogmann: I'd like to get some help on the test class hierarchy squash on the code sprint09:07
gmannoomichi might be picking up the priority one there09:07
dmelladofor the lib/migration I thing we're on pretty good track09:07
gmanndmellado: great, but you can always start before that also :)09:07
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gmanndmellado: only service client but there are many things pending for migration09:07
gmannbut that we covers one by one not so urgent09:08
gmannanyways let's move09:09
dmelladoin any case for the remaining items I guess we'll cover that in the sprint09:09
dmelladoyeah09:09
gmanndmellado: true09:09
gmann#topic QA Code Sprint09:09
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gmann#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/QAInfraNewtonSprint09:09
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gmanndetails here ^^09:09
gmannthere are still 5 seats available09:09
gmanni am surprised not to see andreaf name there09:10
dmelladogmann: he was going to be on PTO, IIRC09:10
dmelladoso he couldn't make it09:10
gmannahh09:10
gmanni remember to see his name there but do not know09:11
gmannanyways here is etherpad link for collecting the ideas09:11
gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-infra-newton-midcycle09:11
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gmannwrite up your idea/items you are planning to work if not listed already09:12
masayukigok09:12
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gmannif nothing on this can we move to next topic09:13
dmelladolet's move on09:13
gmann#topic Specs Reviews09:13
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gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z09:14
gmannnot much new spec but we should review the exiting one09:14
gmanni did not get chance to look into those since 1 month seems09:14
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gmannanyone has any updates or want to discuss09:15
gmannok let's jump to next one09:16
gmann#topic Tempest09:16
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gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open09:16
gmann^^ ongoing reviews09:16
dmelladoI could use some +2+A on the ones that already got a +2 from oomichi09:17
dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/consistent-service-method-names09:17
gmannmany has +2 one so review those09:17
gmanndmellado: yea :) you will for sure09:17
dmelladogmann: so please do review them if you've the time ;)09:18
gmanndmellado: sure but may be tomorrow, i have to prepare the visa doc today09:18
dmelladogmann: oh, no prob, thanks in any case!09:18
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gmanndmellado: anyways nice progress in identity clients09:18
dmelladowe'll tackle volume ones now09:18
gmannhope we will finish all clients by code sprint09:19
gmannnext is Bug triage things09:19
gmannoomichi: started a graph collection on those09:19
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gmann#link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph09:19
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masayukig#link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter/blob/master/tempest_bug_count.png09:20
masayukigis this?09:20
gmannmasayukig: how about including existing bugs data in dashboard may be critical/hogh priority  one09:20
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gmannmasayukig: yea09:20
gmannthat can give more eyes from project on critical open bugs?09:21
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gmannbut not sure masayukig and mtreinish can provide opinion on this09:21
dmelladoI think it's a nice idea09:21
masayukiggmann : which dashboard? o-h?09:22
gmannmasayukig: yea09:22
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masayukighrm, it seems nice.09:22
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gmannok. anyways let's decide that later09:23
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masayukigsure :)09:23
gmannwe stopped doing the regular  bug traige and open bug count is high seems09:23
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gmanni remember many people volunteers for that in last summit :)09:24
dmelladogmann: masayukig how about adding a bug fixing section to the mid-cycle items09:24
jordanPbug fixing is not something you do "one day" and be done with it09:24
jordanPwe have to do it, every week09:24
gmannwe can discuss this also in code sprint may be assigning a permanent or turn wise09:25
masayukig+1 jordanP09:25
dmelladojordanP: I know, but at least if we could get rid of some stuff by the code sprint it'd be nice09:25
gmannjordanP: yea but if we have someone looking up daily for those will be nice09:25
jordanPI have this handy bookmark: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW09:25
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jordanPmost of the bug reports are not real bug, most of the work is actually replyinq/asking some question09:25
gmannyea count is 3009:25
gmannweekly also works if we have some assignee there09:26
dmellado+1 to adding bug triage/assignment to weekly meeting09:26
gmannyea, let's add that in code sprint agenda09:26
gmann#action gmann to add bug triage topic in code sprint etherpad09:26
gmannnext one is from hferenc09:27
gmannhferenc: please go ahead09:27
hferencokay09:27
hferencfirst of all i'm aware of what a -2 means09:28
hferencand i sort of agree with oomichi09:28
hferenchowever i cannot find a way to implement this in nova09:28
jordanPlink ?09:29
hferencsry09:29
hferenc#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315786/09:29
patchbotpatch 315786 - tempest - Add test case to test the reset action of libvirt ...09:29
dmelladohferenc: about that, I might've some related stuff09:29
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315786/09:29
patchbotpatch 315786 - tempest - Add test case to test the reset action of libvirt ...09:29
gmannhferenc: you mean to add test in nova?09:29
dmelladothere was some stuff in nova that we wanted to tackle but we needed to interact directly with libvirt09:29
* andreaf o/09:29
dmelladoand I was proposing this09:29
dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/366091/09:29
patchbotpatch 366091 - openstack-infra/project-config - Adds a new project: nova-tempest-staging09:29
dmelladoI was going to bring this on the open discussion09:29
dmelladohey andreaf o/09:30
* masayukig waves09:30
dmelladohferenc: could you please summarize the issue you were tackling?09:30
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gmanndmellado: any example on that category  which cannot go in tempest or nova09:30
andreafhello everyone, sorry I'm late09:31
gmannyea that will be nice to understand background09:31
gmannandreaf: hi,09:31
hferencthe test would verify that everything happens if hw:watchdog_action extra spec is set09:31
dmelladogmann: in my case, basically from what I was told, things that should interact directly with libvirt09:31
hferenci was able to verify tho whole process in tempest09:31
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hferenchowever the solution is kind of on the edge regarding the tempest design priciples09:32
jordanPI kinda agree this is going to be hard to maintain in Tempest09:32
jordanPit's a very small feature that I doubt a lot of people use09:32
hferencbut the libvirt driver is mocked in nova functional test so i can only check whether the flavor has a specific flag09:33
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gmannhferenc: yea that is fake driver nova use09:33
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hferencyepp09:33
hferencso i cannot check what happen when that flag is set09:34
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masayukighmm, should we have a new tempest test repository for like these niche cases..?09:34
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dmelladomasayukig: I think that'd be great09:35
jordanPI think if it's a feature valuable to hferenc then it's the way to go, imo09:35
gmannhumm, am not sure why we cannot do in tempest09:35
dmelladogmann: could we add such feature in tempest?09:35
dmelladointeracting with libvirt in such way?¿09:35
gmannonly issue i see about the waiting on rebooting of instance by watchdog09:35
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andreafhferenc, dmellado, masayukig, gmann: the test does not involve much more than nova really, so it sounds like something that should be tested in nova09:36
jordanPlibvirt only tests are not really nice to Xen/VMWare etc...09:36
gmannyea something we can skip for others driver09:36
jordanPand we would have to maintain image_ref_watchdog, a specific glance image09:36
gmannandreaf: actually in nova, tests use fake driver only09:36
andreafhferenc, gmann: I understand that nova functional tests use the fake driver today, but that doesn't mean that it can't be changed if there is a use case09:37
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andreafit may be possible to extend the fake driver to cover what you need, or to have a different job that uses a real hypervisor09:37
gmannandreaf: hferenc yea, i remember there was plan to build up full stack for nova testing in nova09:38
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jordanPand this requires CONF.validation.run_validation which we don't have enabled in the gate jobs by default09:38
gmannbut i think in Atlanta summit09:38
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jordanPmeah, overall atm, imo, it's a bad idea to support this inside Tempest itself09:38
gmannjordanP: thats should be ok to run on ssh job only09:38
hferencjordanP: the watchdog image is the same as the original images, except that i added one extra kernel module for the watchdog device09:39
gmannbut yea driver specific things  yes we should be carefull09:39
jordanPwhich ssh-jobs ? The flaky ones, non voting ? The jobs no one is taking care of ?09:39
gmannjordanP: :), yea we will make voting that soon09:39
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jordanPI heard that a long time ago already. I am all on favor of making it voting but we need to do it step by step. The more tests we throw that required ssh_validation, the harder it will be to stabilize the job09:40
andreafgmann, jordanP: still I don't think this belongs into tempest - it can be written in tempest format but it doesn't have to live in the tempest tree09:40
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dmelladoandreaf: that was as well my idea09:40
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dmelladomy concern is about where putting up those kind of tests09:41
dmelladoshould we try to 'unify' those09:41
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jordanPtempest-plugin09:41
dmelladoI'm afraid of upcoming 'tempest-like' style repos coming up09:41
gmanntempest like repo is not good idea09:41
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dmelladojordanP: yep, that was the idea on here09:41
gmannplugin suits then09:41
dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/366091/09:41
patchbotpatch 366091 - openstack-infra/project-config - Adds a new project: nova-tempest-staging09:41
jordanPthat's the point of tempest/lib, to have a lot of tempest like repo, no ?09:42
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dmelladogmann: andreaf jordanP would you mind commenting there as well when you get the chance?09:42
dmelladoif that's acceptable, I'd like to have some ack from your side there09:42
gmanndmellado: ok09:42
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jordanPok09:42
gmannbut this case can be in nova side with full stack testing framework or plugin09:43
gmannanyways let's comment in reviews09:43
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gmanni need to think more on this if can not be in tempest09:44
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masayukig15 mins left09:45
gmannanything more on Tempest side or we move on ?09:45
gmannmasayukig: yea09:45
gmannif nothing on devstack and grenade let's jump to dashboard one09:45
hferencwe can move on i think09:45
gmann#topic openstack-health09:45
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gmannmasayukig: andreaf anything on this09:46
andreafI was looking forward to a new release of subunit2sql - but it may be already there I didn't check yet09:47
masayukigso, timothyb89 are now trying to improve/reimplement the some graphs on it.09:47
masayukigAnd I've heard mtreinish has some ideas to add graphs. But it is not started yet.09:47
gmannok09:47
masayukigAnd I put one small patch for improving the top page loading.09:48
gmannmore graphs does not make it more heavy :)09:48
patchbotError: I haven't seen graphs.09:48
masayukighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/367172/09:48
patchbotpatch 367172 - openstack-health - Add caching on get_all_runs_time_series_by_key for...09:48
gmannwhy ERROR by patchbot09:48
masayukiglol09:49
jordanP"Recently, the home page loading time is so long and I'm really annoyed every time." <<--- yes09:49
jordanPwe should really do something about it, slow loading time makes o-h not super usable09:49
gmannyea that true. may be more caching thing can help09:50
masayukigjordanP : yeah, I think there are some reason. one is api side, the other is rendering graphs.09:50
masayukigmy patch tries to improve api-db side.09:50
gmannmasayukig: nice09:51
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masayukigThat's all from me09:51
gmannok let's wait for masayukig patch to see fast loading09:51
gmannmasayukig: Thanks09:51
gmann#topic Critical Reviews09:51
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gmannany critical reviews from anyone09:52
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gmannok, then i have 3 not so critical but need 1 more +209:52
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365859/09:53
patchbotpatch 365859 - tempest - Define separate inherited_roles_client for inherit...09:53
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366611/09:53
patchbotpatch 366611 - tempest - Move v3 roles_client to library interface09:53
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366641/09:53
patchbotpatch 366641 - tempest - Move v3 inherited_roles_client to library interface09:53
gmannplease review09:53
dmelladogmann: I'll do, and that'll be also great to have merged asap as I've some patches dependant on those ;)09:53
masayukigI already +2 later two patches :)09:53
dmelladothanks, masayukig09:53
gmannmasayukig: yea thanks09:53
gmanndmellado: yes, we will finish identity v3 ones09:54
gmann5 min left09:54
gmann#topic Open Discussion09:54
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gmannanything else to discuss09:54
dmelladomasayukig: if you could also have a look at the patches that already have +2 here, that'd be great09:54
dmelladohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/consistent-service-method-names09:54
masayukigdmellado : sure, will do tomorrow :)09:55
jordanPThis patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344184 Python3 relaated09:55
patchbotpatch 344184 - tempest - py3: Miscellaneous fixes09:55
* masayukig puts it in his todo list09:55
hferenci just wanted to say thanks for the ideas about the watchdog think, i'd appreciate some comments i you have any further ones09:55
jordanPwe should really make Python3 happen, are everybody else is going to wait for us09:55
dmelladohferenc: thanks to you, I'll comment in there09:56
dmelladojordanP: +109:56
gmannjordanP: yea, ll  do tomorrow for sure, love those kind of patch09:56
gmannhferenc: sure, thanks09:56
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masayukighferenc : yeah, I'll have a look09:57
gmannok, if nothing more, we close the meeting09:57
gmann3...09:57
dmellado2...09:57
gmann:)09:57
gmann1.09:57
dmelladoxD09:57
gmannThanks all09:57
masayukig\o/09:57
gmann#endmeeting09:57
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mriedem#startmeeting nova14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  8 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'14:00
alaskio/14:00
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mriedem#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting14:01
edleafe\o14:01
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mriedem#topic release news14:01
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mriedem#link Newton release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule14:01
bauzas\o14:01
mriedem#info Sep 12-16: PTL self-nominations open for Ocata14:01
mriedemthat's next week14:02
mriedem#info Sep 15: RC1 - 1 week from today14:02
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mriedemso be on the lookout for blocking bugs for the release14:02
mriedemi know bauzas has been doing some bug triage, i've been trying to also14:02
jaypipeso/14:02
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mriedemanything that looks potentially stop ship tag it with 'newton-rc-potential'14:02
bauzasyeah, nothing really urgent I've seen so far but a couple of bugs we need to merge tho14:02
mriedemlet's move on to bugs14:03
mriedem#topic bugs14:03
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mriedem#link newton-rc-potential bugs (13): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=newton-rc-potential14:03
mriedemthat's our current list14:03
bauzasand I still need to iterate over that newton-rc-potential list which contained the last time I looked 13 bugs14:03
bauzasheh, jinxed14:03
mriedemyup, i need to scrub through it today too14:03
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mriedemi think there are some plancement api patches that we want to get into rc1, but i'm not sure if they are tied to bugs or not14:04
mriedemi haven't been following along all that closely with the latest changes there14:04
dansmithmriedem: I've got a list going14:04
mriedemdansmith: jaypipes: cdent: sdague: are those things marked with bugs?14:04
dansmithmriedem: we have a really bad discrepancy between the GET and PUT of some payloads which we really need to resolve14:04
dansmithmriedem: I made the list so we could file bugs14:04
dansmithbut we don't have bugs yet, AFAIK14:05
jaypipesdansmith: ty for making that list.14:05
mriedemok, let's get those bugs opened and tagged so they are on everyone's radar with that list above14:05
dansmithaye14:05
jaypipesdansmith, mriedem: can we add a topic to the meeting today to make a decision on the GET/PUT discrep?14:05
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mriedemjaypipes: yeah let's handle that in open discussion14:05
dansmithjaypipes: I was going to suggest another hangout thing to sync up and talk about that14:05
dansmithbut whichever14:05
mriedemhangouts are also good14:06
mriedemlet's revisit in open14:06
mriedemgate status14:06
mriedem#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html14:06
mriedemnothing shocking there14:06
mriedem3rd party ci has been ok as far as i can tell, at least on master14:06
mriedemthere have been some hiccups on stable branches that are being sorted out14:06
* BobBall hangs his head in shame14:06
mriedemwe have 0 critical bugs14:06
mriedemfinally for bugs14:07
mriedem#info markus_z is no longer running the bug meetings, looking for people to run those (maybe tdurakov and/or auggy)14:07
mriedemi'm less concerned about who holds the almighty title of bug captain and more about who's doing the work and herding the cats14:07
bauzasright14:07
bauzasanyone can run a meeting anyway14:08
mriedemthe latter gets you the former14:08
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bauzasno need for some formal title blessing14:08
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jaypipesdansmith: either way, sure.14:08
mriedemany questions about bugs/ci?14:08
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mriedem#topic reminders14:09
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mriedem#link Etherpad for Ocata summit topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-ideas14:09
jaypipesdansmith: I have an 11am meeting and a company all hands (which I will just be listening to) but otherwise pretty free today to heads-down on placement14:09
mriedemagain, i figure we'll dig more into topics for the summit after RC114:09
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mriedem#link Newton review focus list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking14:09
mriedem^ is probably less important right now14:09
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mriedemfocus should be on bugs14:09
mriedem#help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty Volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty?14:10
bauzasheh14:10
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mriedem#topic stable branch status14:10
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mriedemthere are some stable/mitaka patches that have a +2 and are ready to go14:10
mriedemotherwise nothing really news worthy here14:10
mriedem#topic subteam highlights14:11
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mriedemin the interest of time, i think i'm going to skip these unless anyone has any burning issues to bring up from this week's meetings14:11
mriedemedleafe: alex_xu: PaulMurray: ^14:11
alaskinot for cells14:11
dansmith+1 for skip14:11
edleafeJust if anyone wants to track the placement work: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-next14:11
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mriedemok14:12
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mriedem#topic stuck reviews14:12
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mriedemthere was nothing on the agenda14:12
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mriedem#topic open discussion14:12
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mriedemjaypipes: dansmith: did you want to go over placement stuff here?14:12
dansmithI'd rather do a hangout,14:12
dansmithbut whatever people want14:13
jaypipesmriedem: hangout is finew.14:13
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mriedemok what time?14:13
abhishekkhi all, please review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355091/, it is about '14:13
abhishekkMake req spec and RT aware of volume-backed instances'14:13
patchbotpatch 355091 - nova - Make req spec and RT aware of volume-backed instances14:13
cdentjaypipes, dansmith: whatever we do can we be sure it ends up in something written down, like to that email thread or the etherpad?14:13
edleafehangouts seem to accomplish more14:13
johnthetubaguylet us know how I can help with reviews and stuff tomorrow morning, but tracked bugs sounded good14:13
dansmithcdent: haven't we been doing that?14:13
johnthetubaguywhat cdent said14:13
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cdentdansmith: sometimes there's some latency, but mostly yes, just reinforcing14:14
mriedemabhishekk: that makes me nervous at this point in the schedule, looks complicated and it's a latent bug14:14
mriedemi'd rather wait for ocata for that one14:14
dansmithmriedem: in ocata we may very well have solved it with placement too.. solved it correctly14:14
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johnthetubaguy+1 both of those points14:15
abhishekkmriedem: actually we need to backport it to mitaka14:15
dansmithand yes, latent since $forever14:15
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mriedemabhishekk: unless it was a regression in mitaka, i'm not sure we *need* to backport it14:15
mriedemi'm not keen on backporting 400+ LOC patches14:16
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dansmiththere's really no sane explanation for backporting that, IMHO14:16
dansmithnot a regression, complex, large, affects lots of stuff14:17
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bauzasyeah, I don't see the need for backporting that upstream14:17
mriedemok so jaypipes is on a call in 42 minutes,14:17
mriedemis the hangout before or after that?14:18
jaypipesmriedem: like to do it before pls.14:18
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dansmithI think we could manage before, but whatever14:18
mriedemok14:18
mriedemthen let's wrap this up14:18
mriedemthanks everyone14:18
mriedem#endmeeting14:18
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jaypipesneed: bauzas, cdent, dansmith, johnthetubaguy, mriedem, alex_xu if around14:18
bauzasyup14:18
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bauzasI'm doing a few more things but I can split myself14:18
bauzasjaypipes: ^14:18
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jaypipeslemme set up a hangout link.14:19
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rtheis#startmeeting networking_ovn18:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  8 18:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rtheis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)"18:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking_ovn'18:00
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Sam-I-Ammmm, official18:00
rtheisHi18:00
russellbi was about to ask, first topic, which meeting topic to use18:00
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abalutoiuHello18:00
russellbcould have also been lazy and used "ovn"18:00
Sam-I-Amnetworking-ovn makes sense18:00
zhouhanHello!18:00
russellbhi!18:00
Sam-I-Amsince thats the project name18:00
russellbyep, it's fine18:00
rtheisyeah, I think networking_ovn was in the meetings patch18:01
Sam-I-Ambut it needs to be consistent for people looking at logs18:01
russellbrtheis: cool, sounds good.18:01
rtheiswelcome to the first official meeting18:01
russellbthanks for setting it up, rtheis18:01
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russellbwe've outgrown the main OVN meeting at this point18:01
rtheisyw18:01
russellbrtheis: have an agenda in mind?18:02
rtheis#topic Announcements18:02
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rtheis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-ovn-meeting18:02
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rtheisI've placed the proposed agenda here18:02
russellbnice.18:02
rtheisThe Newton-3 deliverable was released18:02
rtheis#link https://github.com/openstack/releases/commit/93d18e485ad2043df9a793dc2a6cd580d999bd0d18:02
rtheisnext week is Newton RC118:03
rtheis#link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html18:03
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rtheisI am planning to propose a patch for Newton RC1 next week18:03
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russellbshould we merge all feature freeze exceptions by then?18:04
rtheisThat's what I'd like to discuss18:04
rtheisWe have several bug fixes and a lot of features in the review queue18:04
rtheisand would like opinions how what to let into Newton RC118:05
russellbas much as possible?  :)18:05
zhouhansounds good :)18:05
russellbprioritizing makes sense though18:05
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rtheisyeah18:05
rtheisany other announcement before we move on ?18:06
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rtheis#topic Bugs for Newton RC118:06
russellbi mentioned this in the main OVN meeting, but TripleO support is now all merged18:06
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rtheisnice18:06
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Sam-I-Amare we going to provide distro-package install instructions anywhere?18:07
Sam-I-Amspeaking of rh18:07
Sam-I-Ami dont know if ubuntu is packaging ovn18:07
russellbSam-I-Am: we'll have TripleO docs at some point18:07
russellbour general install guide mentions packages that are available18:07
Sam-I-Amhave they been tested?18:07
russellbi would hope that all distros start turning on the OVN sub-package in OVS 2.618:07
russellbthe packaging work was done long ago18:07
Sam-I-Amit would be nice to make sure that stuff works18:07
russellbmight have to ping the ubuntu ovs package maintainer though18:07
russellbnot sure who that is18:08
Sam-I-Amprobably the openstack packagers18:08
Sam-I-Amat least thats how its been for the cloud-archive stuff18:08
rtheisany work on the networking-ovn side that we need to track for this?18:09
rtheisbug for RC1?18:09
russellbubuntu needs to package networking-ovn18:09
russellbif anyone wants to chase that ...18:09
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Sam-I-Ami suppose i can poke at that18:10
russellbit's already packaged for centos / rdo18:10
Sam-I-Ami know people18:10
russellbcool.18:10
rtheisthanks Sam-I-Am18:10
Sam-I-Amnot that they're terribly responsive... but we shall see18:10
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rtheisanything else on packaging?18:10
Sam-I-Amhaving package options for both rdo and ubuntu makes sense for our docs18:10
Sam-I-Amsince we more or less have two camps18:10
rtheis#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/151448818:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1514488 in networking-ovn "Make use of the native OVN DHCPv4" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Numan Siddique (numansiddique)18:11
rtheisWe have several fixes related to native DHCP support listed in agenda18:11
rtheisI think we should try targeting them for RC118:12
Sam-I-Amlets just not release anything thats broken :)18:12
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rtheis+118:12
russellbnuman is on vacation for 3 weeks18:12
flaviofrtheis: is there a reason why the Vagrant in OVN (networking-ovn) is not using the native DHCP? Maybe metadata issues?18:12
russellbwho wrote that originally, so we'll have to proceed on those fixes without him18:12
rtheisZong Kia has picked up a couple18:13
rtheisflaviof: just haven't made the switch yet18:13
russellbprobably just that not everyone uses the vagrant setup18:13
Sam-I-Amconventional md doesnt work at all with native dhcp?18:13
rtheisno18:14
flaviofack. so it is just not a known issue, but yet not fully tested then.18:14
Sam-I-Amthus, i'd say native dhcp is not ready.18:14
flaviofunderstood.18:14
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Sam-I-Ampeople expect basic features to work18:14
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Sam-I-Amso perhaps native dhcp is still 'experimental' and not a default?18:15
rtheisconfig drive is the alternative which does work18:15
rtheiswith the native services18:15
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Sam-I-Amit is, but not everyone uses it18:15
flaviofjust to be clear, I'm talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350237/7/vagrant/provisioning/setup-compute.sh -- line 3618:16
rtheisthe metadata limitation and other limitations for native services are documented in the release note18:17
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rtheis#link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/networking-ovn/unreleased.html18:17
flaviofmake sense. all good.18:18
rtheisflaviof: the vagrant setup was setting up both native and conventional dhcp18:18
rtheisI fixed it to go back to conventional dhcp18:18
flaviofheh, ic; that is defininitely bad18:18
rtheisjust haven't got back to switching it to native18:18
rtheissince there was documentation and other things to do18:19
rtheisany other concerns with native DHCP fixes ?18:19
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Sam-I-Amlooks like ubuntu is including a networking-ovn package18:20
flaviofnone from me; thank y'all for taking the cycles to educate me on config-drive18:20
russellbSam-I-Am: great!  thanks for checking.18:20
Sam-I-Ambut i'm not sure if they're depending on a useful ovs version or kernel18:20
Sam-I-Amso whether it works or not remains to be seen18:20
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rtheis#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/161196318:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1611963 in networking-ovn "OVN NB sync ignores ACLs on lswitch without ports" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis)18:21
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rtheis#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/161243518:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612435 in networking-ovn "ML2 driver doesn't retry post_fork_initialize ovn nb or sb connection failures" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis)18:21
rtheisthere are a couple miscellaneous fixes for these bugs18:21
rtheissync and connection retry18:21
rtheisany concerns with targeting RC1 ?18:22
rtheisalso ...18:22
rtheis#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358501/18:22
rtheis#topic Feature Freeze Exceptions (FFEs) for Newton RC118:23
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rtheisWe have 7 listed in the agenda18:24
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rtheisThis is a lot of new function potentially coming in late to the release18:24
rtheisare there any features that should be blocked?18:24
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rtheisor maybe we focus on which feature is the highest priority and work down from there18:25
russellbi think we should prioritize18:25
russellbone of my top priorities would be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346646/18:25
russellbis chandra working on the test failure?18:25
russellbnext for me would be vlan-aware-vms18:26
rtheisyes18:26
rtheisI believe chandra has an ovn patch dependency18:26
russellbah, i see18:26
rtheiswhich what I think he brought up in ovn meeting18:26
russellbmaybe that's the patch he mentioned in the ovn meeting18:26
russellbgot it.18:26
rtheisyeah18:26
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rtheisanyone else have opinions on priority ?18:28
zhouhanIs race condition a concern?18:28
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rtheiszhouhan: is that for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358447/ ?18:29
zhouhanI am working on the patch but not sure about priority18:29
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rtheispriority may depend on how easy it is to recreate the race conditions in production18:31
azbiswasWhat about the idl mutate patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351861/18:31
russellbzhouhan: i feel like that might be too invasive for this release18:31
zhouhan_I think I just got dropped18:31
rtheisI tend to agree with russellb18:31
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russellbovs mutate -- what perf improvement do we get?18:32
russellbmeasured that?  just curious18:32
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rtheishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1610347/comments/218:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1610347 in networking-ovn "OVS transaction timeout with many logical switch ports on a logical switch" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis)18:32
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azbiswasThat's a question, I don't have an answer to yet - our internal cloud where we going to test this out has been having stability issues lately18:33
russellbrtheis: nice, thanks18:33
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rtheisI noted this improvement in a local environment18:33
azbiswasWe did get past our initial problem point.18:33
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zhouhan_russellb: well, it is not that invasive as I thought in the beginning. I didn't change the sync call behavior, not like the journal mechanism in ODL18:34
russellbzhouhan_: oh ok, interesting18:34
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zhouhan_rtheis: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/362494/18:35
rtheiszhouhan_ thx18:35
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zhouhan_It is POC so I'd like to get feedback if that is a good way to continue18:35
rtheiszhouhan_: the tests aren't passing on these 2 patches yet...  do you think we give them more time for reviews and testing and possibly backport if not to invasive?18:36
zhouhan_rtheis: yes, I am fixing the failure and added some functional tests for race conditions18:37
rtheisack18:37
zhouhan_It is not quite urgent though. we know that, race conditions ...18:37
rtheisso our priority so far is ...18:37
rtheis(1) NAT support (SNAT, FloatingIP)18:37
rtheis(2) OVN trunk driver to support vlan-aware-vms18:37
rtheis(3) Add OVS transaction mutate support18:38
russellb(4) multi-provider / multi-segment18:38
zhouhan_should 3) be higher than 2)?18:39
ramamurthy@rtheis: is vlan-aware VMs the way to provide services ?18:39
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rtheisramamurthy: I haven't looked at that patch yet18:39
rtheisrussellb ?18:39
zhouhan_For my understanding 3) is about scalability and performance, but not sure if it really solves the problem18:40
russellbswapping 2 and 3 is fine with me18:41
russellbi actually want both :)18:41
russellbso whichever :)18:41
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russellbi'd rather defer the metadata one, i think ...18:41
rtheiszhouhan_: it did seem to solve the problem for the use case reported18:42
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rtheiswhich problem did it not solve?18:42
zhouhan_rtheis: that's great. I didn't test, so not sure18:43
rtheisack18:43
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rtheisif we defer metadata then we have  ...18:43
rtheisSupport a mixed DPDK and non-DPDK environment18:43
rtheisSupport native OVN DHCPv618:43
rtheisleve18:43
rtheisleft18:43
russellbDPDK one is pretty small18:44
russellbso gets my +118:44
rtheissounds good18:44
flaviofis anyone here actively involved with SFC (specifically, SFC with OVN) ?18:44
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russellband of course, would love DHCPv6 too, but looked like there was still work needed?18:44
russellbi'd say (5) dpdk, (6) dhcpv618:44
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russellband then try to merge all 6 :)18:44
rtheisawesome :)18:45
rtheisZong Kai picked up DHCPv6 while numan is out18:45
russellbgreat18:45
rtheiswe'll see how far he gets18:45
russellbi'm on vacation all next week ... and technically in meetings today and tomorrow18:45
Sam-I-Amhow well does ipv6 work in general?18:45
russellbbut will do as much as i can18:45
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Sam-I-Ammighty quiet :)18:47
rtheisrussellb: is ovn ipv6 support ready ?18:47
russellbyes18:47
russellbsorry in meeting room18:47
rtheisnp18:48
russellbIPv6 support is merged in OVN for L3 routing18:48
russellbthere are improvements still to be made18:48
rtheisok18:48
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rtheisso we have a list of 1-6, with metadata (7) deferred18:48
russellblike, i don't think we're doing router advertisements?18:49
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russellbfor our logical routers, i mean18:49
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Sam-I-Amthats sort of a problem18:50
rtheisanything else for Newton RC1 that we want/need to complete?18:50
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russellball the things18:51
russellbrtheis: thanks for organizing the agenda18:51
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rtheisyou're welcome18:51
rtheislast topic ...18:51
rtheis#topic Open Discussion18:51
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rtheisanything else for today ?18:52
flaviofis anyone here actively involved with SFC (specifically, SFC with OVN) ?18:52
rtheisI am not18:52
russellbi've monitored it somewhat, not too up to date18:52
russellbryan was commenting a bunch a while back18:52
russellbthere is a networking-sfc spec i was asked to review in the last couple weeks18:52
russellbbut the main issue with it is it makes assumptions / proposals for the SFC support in OVN itself, which really needs to get done first18:53
rtheis#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333172/18:53
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flaviofack. thanks!18:53
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russellbi haven't seen a proposal for OVN itself in a while18:53
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russellbor at all?  lots of discussion18:53
russellbbut i'd like to see a specific design proposal18:53
flaviofyeah, I'm catching up on all that was talked about in the ML18:53
flaviofrtheis: thanks for the link!18:54
rtheisyw18:54
ramamurthythe ovn discussion didnt focus on specific usecases18:55
ramamurthyfor SFC18:55
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azbiswasRyan mentioned something about it being single tenant only - but I've not looked into it18:55
flaviofright. there is the open topic on multi-tenants, as an example. let me educate myself more on that b4 I start making my usual stupid questions :)18:56
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rtheisany other topics for today? we have a couple minutes left.18:56
azbiswaschandrav: I know you just joined, your SNAT/FIP patch was voted as top priority for review :)18:57
russellblet's plan an OVN meetup in Barcelona for whoever is there18:57
russellbanother related event for this group: OVSCon details were just sent out18:57
russellbaccepting talk proposals now18:57
russellbi still don't understand the single vs multi tenant concern18:57
chandravazbiswas: Thats good to know :)18:57
russellbyep, just needs tests to pass18:58
russellbthen let's get it in18:58
rtheisOVN meetup sounds good18:58
russellbchandrav: you need an OVN patch in first?18:58
rtheisthanks chandrav18:58
flaviofrussellb: tbh I don't either, I'm just repeating what I heard on that as a parrot at this point18:58
chandravfor the tests to pass, i'll point to my ovs branch18:58
rtheischandrav: do you have a link to the patch ?18:58
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chandravhttps://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/665301/18:59
rtheis#link https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/665301/18:59
rtheisthanks18:59
zhouhan_russellb: sorry that I may not go to Barcelona, you guys have fun18:59
chandravI am having difficulty writing a unit test case for that patch.18:59
russellbzhouhan_: how about ovscon?18:59
russellbat least that one is in your back yard :)18:59
zhouhan_russellb: I hope I can join that one :)19:00
flaviofzhouhan_: +119:00
rtheiswe are out of time, thank you all for attending19:00
zhouhan_thanks guys, bye19:00
rtheis##endmeeting19:00
rtheis#endmeeting19:00
russellbthanks, rtheis !19:00
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dtroyer#startmeeting openstackclient19:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  8 19:02:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient'19:02
dtroyeranyone here for osc?19:02
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stevemaro/19:03
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stevemarwas just finishing something up19:04
stevemarwheres rtheis :O19:04
dtroyertalking a quick break?  he chaired the meeting prior to this19:04
stevemarah probably19:04
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stevemarhes very in-demand19:05
rtheishere now19:05
dtroyerwelcome!19:05
rtheissorry, just finishing up another meeting19:05
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dtroyerok, let's begin…19:06
stevemarrtheis: yeah, we can read the few lines above :)19:06
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dtroyer#topic release status19:06
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rtheisoh yeah ;)19:06
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dtroyerso the current big thing is where we stand, and getting to the point we can start merging features again19:06
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dtroyerthe (hopefully) last bugfix for auth merged a little while ago, rtheis have you had a chance to check it?19:07
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stevemari think rtheis left a comment saying it worked19:08
rtheisit worked for me19:08
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dtroyerso, has that one feature not been merged, we coupld propose 3.2.1 for this19:09
dtroyerI am not sure it is worth reverting that though19:09
dtroyerthoughts?19:09
rtheisI'm okay with keeping it19:10
rtheisLooks like just "volume service set"19:11
dtroyerthat's all I saw19:11
rtheisme too19:11
stevemarany requirements bumps?19:11
dtroyerthe grapevine suggests three are some coming19:12
dtroyerthere19:12
stevemarthen it should be 3.3.019:12
stevemarhttps://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/compare/3.2.0...master19:12
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stevemari think that's the last of the regressions19:13
dtroyerthe volume featre ensured that19:13
stevemartrue taht19:13
stevemaroh i think https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1619937 may have been introduced in 3.0.0 but low priority19:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1619937 in python-openstackclient "`openstack token issue` cannot print `expires` value when using JSON formatter" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Martinelli (stevemar)19:14
dtroyerso bookmark this place, we'll come back to it (what other features we may want to put into 3.3.0)19:14
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dtroyerthe unit test change that stevemar posted will conflict a LOT of existing reviews19:15
stevemarbookmarked19:15
stevemaroh yeah19:15
stevemara whole bunch19:15
dtroyerso if we do that now, we should prioritize which of those to work first for 3.3.019:15
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dtroyerI would suggest anything that requires a dependency bump be held, for one19:17
rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/342976/19:17
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rtheisI know the neutron team would like ^^^19:17
dtroyerok, a manageable list of things like that would be good19:18
rtheisI don't have anything else on my list19:18
dtroyerthat would be manageable then!19:19
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stevemari'd feel better if we kept the list short :)19:19
dtroyerto back up a half-step, is stevemar's test change something we want to do now?19:19
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stevemardoesn't have to be, but i'd like it in soon after, so i don't have to rebase on everything else19:19
rtheisI'm okay with now19:20
dtroyerok, then let's to it19:20
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rtheisso we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342976/, stevemar's test change and https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1619937  for 3.3.0 ?19:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1619937 in python-openstackclient "`openstack token issue` cannot print `expires` value when using JSON formatter" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Martinelli (stevemar)19:21
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stevemarif we're going to push my test change, i'd like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365864/ done as well19:22
stevemarand possibly... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365867/519:22
dtroyerI need to look through the list, there may be a couple others19:22
rtheisokay19:23
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stevemardtroyer: ETA on when you'll propose the release?19:25
dtroyernext week is the roll-up to RC, may not be a great time for a release19:25
dtroyermid-week at soonest19:25
stevemardtroyer: could we release today and fix the critical password prompt bug?19:26
dtroyerwe can try?19:26
stevemari say that because we've had 3 bugs related to that issue already :)19:26
dtroyerok19:27
stevemarthe rest are new features19:27
stevemarjust thoughts, your call19:27
dtroyerwe don't have any blockers that would need the u-c bumped quickly, do we?19:28
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dtroyerjust needing to get it out to pypi?19:28
stevemardtroyer: correct19:29
dtroyerI'll put together a 3.3.0 after this meeting then19:29
stevemar:]19:29
dtroyer#topic open discussion19:31
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rtheisso 3.3.0 won't contain any other changes being discussed19:31
dtroyerno, we can't get it through the gate before end of day19:31
dtroyerit may already be close19:31
rtheisokay19:32
rtheisbut we are okay to merge them now19:32
stevemarrtheis: i suppose, yes19:33
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dtroyeroh, sure, I'll can pick a non-tip commit to release19:33
stevemari'm hoping we go back to releasing often like we did in the beginning of N, that was cool19:33
dtroyeryes it was19:33
dtroyerI hope to not be that kind of bottle-neck again19:33
stevemarever again19:33
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stevemarif we at open discussion...19:34
stevemari was wondering if you all had views on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/161972619:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1619726 in python-openstackclient "volume create fails with auth type token_endpoint" [Undecided,New]19:34
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* dtroyer looking19:36
dtroyerheh, Loic is right, that one will never work as-is19:36
stevemarcause it'll keep hitting the url right?19:37
dtroyerit needs two to function, we only have facility to provide one19:37
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dtroyerthis is where jamie's version of token auth is better, it still gets a service catalog19:38
dtroyerand really is what we need to start advising people to use for the general case of token19:38
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stevemarah19:40
stevemari am going to try hard and find time to implement https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/compute-action-list and https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/158459619:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1584596 in python-openstackclient "The "purge" feature- 1 command for all components" [Wishlist,New]19:40
stevemarbut one involves changes to novaclient19:41
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stevemarfinding time is difficult though :\19:43
dtroyertell me about it19:43
dtroyerany other bugs or whatnot?19:43
dtroyerI opened up the planning eitherpad for the summit19:44
dtroyer#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-ocata-summit19:44
dtroyerfrom the ML thread about Purge IIRC19:44
rtheisthanks dtroyer19:44
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dtroyeranything else?19:47
rtheisnothing else from me19:47
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stevemari'm good19:47
* dtroyer is making release review19:47
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dtroyerok, thanks guys19:47
stevemarthanks for fixing all the regressions dtroyer19:47
dtroyeryou mean the ones I caused?19:47
stevemari will give you many beers and tapas in barcelona19:47
stevemarmeh19:48
dtroyeror, the ones o-c-c caused?19:48
stevemarwhen bad things happen use *we* -- when good things happen, praise the person19:48
stevemaryou fixed our mistakes :)19:48
dtroyerdon' tlook under the bandaid then ;)19:49
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dtroyer#endmeeting19:49
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amullero/21:59
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armaxhello22:00
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armaxit looks like everyone is head down in wrapping up Newton22:01
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amullersounds like it =p22:02
armaxthen we should seize the opportunity!22:02
dougwigJust driving home, then here.22:03
kevinbentono\22:04
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kevinbentonarmax: seize the opportunity to have a meeting?22:05
armaxto not have one22:05
kevinbentonok22:05
HenryGsure22:06
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armaxI don’t have a specific agenda22:06
armaxany of you guys do?22:06
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armaxOtherwise I’ll go over the postmortem and LP dashboard for further cleanup22:07
armaxbtw22:07
armaxdunno if anynoe had the opportunity to read this22:07
armaxhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103115.html22:07
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armaxand http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/102981.html22:08
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armaxwow, people were quick to bail22:11
armaxoh well22:11
amullerI'm looking forward to Atlanta22:12
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amullerarmax: I'm hoping the PTG could squash the design summit and mid cycle22:12
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amullerin to 5 days22:13
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dougwighere now22:30
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kevinbentondougwig: too late. armax ran everyone off22:32
dougwighe's good at that.22:32
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anteayaamuller: that is the purpose of the project team gathering22:36
amulleranteaya: I'm concerned that the announcement email specified 2 days for horizontal teams and 3 for vertical teams. Will we be able to book 5 days for a project like Neutron?22:37
anteayaamuller: what do you mean book?22:38
amulleranteaya: have a room dedicated to neutron for the full 5 days22:38
anteayaamuller: the expectation is that you will attend all 5 days22:38
anteayawell doing that is kind of besides the point of increasing the awareness of how to do the horizontal work22:38
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anteayasince part of the objective is to increase projects awareness of each other22:39
anteayaso that they better understand how to interact with infra qa docs horizon22:39
anteayarelease22:39
amulleranteaya: right, it means that a project like neutron would only have 3 days in the PTG22:39
anteayaand then the horizontal teams have to do less hand holding for each project22:39
anteayawell I personally sure hope you will be in attendance all 5 days22:40
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anteayasince if you start interpreting it as 'we only have 3 days for us' we are already off to a poor start22:40
amullerI'll be there for the 5 days either way22:40
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anteayasince the larger objective is to get folks out of their silos22:40
anteayawell that is reassuring, thank you22:40
amullerMy point is that with a design summit and mid cycle we had 5 working days for a project every 6 months22:40
amullernow we will have 322:41
anteayaagain that is a poor way to look at it22:41
amullerit might mean that mid cycles will live on, meaning 6 events a year22:41
anteayais learning about how to interact with infra better, such a waste of your time?22:41
anteayait might22:41
anteayait depends on the team22:41
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anteayaand how they choose to approach opportunities that are given to them22:42
amullertake, say, the neutron team :)22:42
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anteayawell how about we take for example ihe infra team22:42
anteayahow about that?22:42
anteayahow much of infra's time do you think is taken up answering the exact same questions for every team22:43
anteayaevery day?22:43
anteayaand docs, and qa and release22:43
anteayahow about those teams?22:43
anteayaseen them grow lately?22:43
anteayaget new contributers?22:44
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anteayaseen much of that?22:44
amullerAll I'm saying is that while there are advantages to the new format, and I recognize that increasing cross project work is vital, it also means that some teams will either have less time to work than they had before, or that mid cycles will continue and people will burn out from events22:44
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anteayaseen their workload shrink at all?22:44
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anteayadepends on how you look at it22:44
anteayayour attitude counts for what you get out of it22:44
amullerI think it's clear that some vertical teams will have less days to work on their own project's efforts regardless of my attitude, while increasing the amount of days free for members of that project to attend work sessions by teams such as infra22:47
anteayawell that is your perspective and you are welcome to it22:47
anteayayou seem to be stuck on it22:47
anteayaand you don't seem to be willing to consider what I'm offering22:47
anteayaso I'll stop22:47
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amullerI understood your main point that vertical team members will now be able to attend horizontal team sessions22:48
amullerWhich I referenced in my last comment22:48
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