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| ekcs | Time for congress meeting. thinrichs1 masahito ramineni aimeeu | 00:00 |
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| masahito | hi | 00:00 |
| aimeeu | hello | 00:00 |
| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 1 00:01:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hello all. hope the US people had a nice thanksgiving break. | 00:01 |
| ekcs | I have a light agenda for today. | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Newton 4.0.1 | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - PTG questions if any | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Statuses | 00:02 |
| ekcs | Anything else on our minds? | 00:02 |
| thinrichs1 | Hi all | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi thinrichs1 | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | #topic Newton 4.0.1 | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | On gerrit I see three patches that are Newton relevant. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405017/ | 00:07 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400643/ | 00:07 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404478/ | 00:07 |
| ekcs | I hope to sort them out and merge them before testing and releasing 4.0.1. Any thoughts? Other newton items I'm missing? | 00:07 |
| ekcs | ok then. moving on =) | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | PTG is February 20-24. #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 00:11 |
| ekcs | I don’t have anything new to discuss, but wanted to see if there are any questions or thougths from people as we go through registration and travel plans etc. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs1 | ekcs: They all look reasonable to me. (Was caught up looking at the code I reviewed and missed a bug in.) | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | thanks thinrichs1 . I still have some work to do on diagnosing and resolving test failures on some of the patches. but hoping to get it all ready asap. | 00:13 |
| ekcs | ok moving on then. feel free to ping me any time if there are PTG questions (or anything else really) | 00:15 |
| ekcs | #topic status updates | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | We haven’t had time for status updates in a while. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | I’ll start us off. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | Back from traveling this week. Been working on various bug fixes. My main focus is getting Newton relevant fixes in and 4.0.1 tested and released. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | that’s all from me. | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | masahito: would you like to give a quick update to catch people up? | 00:20 |
| masahito | sure. | 00:21 |
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| masahito | I'm now working on sample policy deployment script in devstack. | 00:21 |
| masahito | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1638742 | 00:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638742 in congress "support out-of-the-box policies" [High,New] - Assigned to Masahito Muroi (muroi-masahito) | 00:22 |
| masahito | that's from my side. | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | Awesome. That’d be a big step in improving usability in Ocata. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | thinrichs1: would you like to update? | 00:24 |
| thinrichs1 | Sure. | 00:24 |
| thinrichs1 | Been helping Ruben get the Magnum datasource driver finished up. | 00:24 |
| thinrichs1 | Seems like it's almost there—just needing to squash commits before pushing to review again. | 00:25 |
| thinrichs1 | Or at least, it's almost ready for review. Sounds like its functional | 00:25 |
| thinrichs1 | Also attended the policy meeting this morning. | 00:25 |
| thinrichs1 | It's a difficult mix of people wanting to talk about new approaches, and people wanting to talk about code in review. | 00:26 |
| thinrichs1 | Couple of interesting things I learned today... | 00:26 |
| thinrichs1 | Heard the anecdote that operators want policy defined in a configuration-management-system, as opposed to thru an API into Keystone. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs1 | I expect this is because of the desire for infra-as-code. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs1 | And possibly because of a holdover from thinking of policy as config. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs1 | Also possibly because they didn't feel a need to change the policy at runtime. | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs1 | Also sounds like projects aren't necessarily using the existing policy rules all that thoroughly, which would cause operators to be unincentivized to change the policies, which would give projects even less reason to utilize the existing policy functionality. | 00:30 |
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| thinrichs1 | One thing that did surprise me was that oslo-policy lets us make decisions based on data in the database. | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs1 | I think I mentioned that last time… | 00:33 |
| thinrichs1 | Think that's it for me. (Hopefully you all find these updates useful. Let me know if not.) | 00:33 |
| ekcs | Interesting. Can’t speak for the rest but def useful to me =) | 00:34 |
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| ekcs | Did people mention any particular Config-MS that they want to use? | 00:34 |
| thinrichs1 | Not that I remember | 00:35 |
| ekcs | And regarding oslo-policy making decisions based on data, I wonder to what extent we can push “policy” via modifying data rather than rules... | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | Anyway I think this is the meeting right? #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Keystone_Policy_Meeting | 00:36 |
| thinrichs1 | I think the project needs to push data into oslo-policy somehow. I don't think it can go into the rules. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs1 | Yep—that's the meeting | 00:36 |
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| ekcs | For those who may be interested in following logs. | 00:36 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | aimeeu: would you like to give an update? congress or otherwise = ) | 00:38 |
| aimeeu | Sure! I actually set aside time today to work on my Ocata-2 item | 00:38 |
| aimeeu | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1618145 | 00:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1618145 in congress "openstackclient.common.utils is deprecated" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Aimee Ukasick (aimeeu) | 00:38 |
| aimeeu | only to find that it was fixed and merged earlier this month | 00:38 |
| thinrichs1 | :) | 00:39 |
| thinrichs1 | Easy day for you! Go home early? | 00:39 |
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| aimeeu | yeah - one less item on my plate. HA - 12 hour days are the norm for me now | 00:39 |
| thinrichs1 | Ugh | 00:39 |
| aimeeu | at least I work from home and the work is interesting | 00:39 |
| thinrichs1 | Someone outside the Congress team patched that, if I remember right | 00:40 |
| aimeeu | Yes - Steve martinelli, the Keystone PTL. | 00:40 |
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| aimeeu | I've been working on installing OPNFV using JOID (MAAS and Juju) so I can make updates to the Congress installation for OPNFV... but my installation keeps failing. SIGH. | 00:41 |
| aimeeu | I will miss next week's Congress meeting since i will be at an OPNFV Hackfest | 00:41 |
| aimeeu | and I'm trying now to keep up with Congress reviews again during my down time | 00:42 |
| aimeeu | that's it for me | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | thanks aimeeu ! Do let us know if you need congress help on installation. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | and lol at ‘downtime’ after 12 hour days. | 00:44 |
| aimeeu | aack - I just reread what I wrote - Congress installation isn't failing - JOID is failing to install OPNFV | 00:44 |
| ekcs | i got it the first time = ) | 00:45 |
| aimeeu | what a relief! | 00:45 |
| ekcs | seems like ramineni isn’t here so we can go to open discussions or end early if there are no other topics. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | Let’s call it then. Nice catching up! Have a great week everyone! | 00:49 |
| aimeeu | thanks - bye all | 00:49 |
| masahito | thanks | 00:50 |
| ekcs | bye! | 00:50 |
| thinrichs1 | Thanks all! | 00:50 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 00:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 1 00:50:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-01-00.01.html | 00:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-01-00.01.txt | 00:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-01-00.01.log.html | 00:50 |
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| stevemar__ | aimeeu: o_O | 02:04 |
| stevemar__ | aimeeu: ah, yeah, i did a much of those in one swoop | 02:05 |
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| eumel8 | morning | 06:57 |
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| ianychoi | hi | 07:01 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, please wait for 5 mins.. sorry | 07:02 |
| eumel8 | np | 07:02 |
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| ianychoi | anyone else? | 07:05 |
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| eumel8 | it seems not | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | hmm.. okay | 07:09 |
| ianychoi | I am moving so i will back back in2-3 mins sorry | 07:09 |
| eumel8 | ok :) | 07:09 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 1 07:12:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:12 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:12 |
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| eumel8 | it's starting now :) | 07:12 |
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| ianychoi | Yep :) | 07:12 |
| ianychoi | #topic Review on last meeting actions | 07:12 |
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| ianychoi | Althouth there are only two now, I wanna keep record :) | 07:13 |
| ianychoi | s/Althouth/Although/ | 07:13 |
| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-24-13.00.html | 07:13 |
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| ianychoi | Actually, I was supposed to have support of Romanian in Zanata, but my work is being delayed.. sorry. | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | I will do it today or tomorrow | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will add Romanian in Zanata and tell to cira by tomorrow | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | Since there is no more action, I want to move forward to the next topic(s) | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | no problem | 07:15 |
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| ianychoi | #topic Translation progress | 07:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Translation progress (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:15 | |
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| eumel8 | great success - a new translation team | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep :) | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | will see how it will work | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | Recently, I have to do a lot of things in my business.. sorry for such delay | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | will ping my romanian colleagues | 07:16 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, oh it will be so great! | 07:16 |
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| eumel8 | you work is very good, ianychoi, don't worry. | 07:16 |
| ianychoi | Then there will be more Romanian translation progress :) | 07:16 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, thanks for such mention :) | 07:16 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-translation-status-documentation | 07:17 |
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| eumel8 | at your service :) | 07:17 |
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| ianychoi | This is what I tracked translation progress about 10 days ago | 07:17 |
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| eumel8 | wow | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, for German, I have recently seen that Training guides are being translated into German mainly by German coordinator | 07:18 |
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| eumel8 | czech team .. impressive | 07:18 |
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| ianychoi | Robert Simai :) | 07:18 |
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| eumel8 | yeah | 07:18 |
| eumel8 | I can try a look into this but I'm also busy with other business | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | There were lots of translations from Czech team previously.. but it seems that recently there have been no more Czech translations.. | 07:19 |
| eumel8 | oh | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | I think current Czech translation ratio was what Czech team translatated previously.. | 07:19 |
| eumel8 | but it's a good progress | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | yep :) | 07:19 |
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| eumel8 | is there a timeframe for documentaion translation? | 07:20 |
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| jftalta | Hi | 07:21 |
| eumel8 | morning jftalta | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, for Ocata plan, the recommended translation timeframe is by December 2016 | 07:21 |
| eumel8 | ah, ok | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | but IMO all translations by Feb 2017 will be considered with next release | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, hi! | 07:22 |
| eumel8 | not so much time, yet ;) | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, for documentations | 07:22 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | yep.. since Ocata cycle is a little bit short | 07:22 |
| eumel8 | I heart this | 07:22 |
| jftalta | Yes, only 4 months | 07:22 |
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| ianychoi | but it will be great for Pike cycle. I think the motivation for such short cycle is mainly for PTG | 07:23 |
| jftalta | This is it | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, yep :) | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, aha, and.. can I ask for your estimated time frame for review on French install-guides (Mitaka & Liberty)? | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | Actually, Liberty translation is currently locked... I have found it recently.. | 07:24 |
| jftalta | Mitaka : next monday | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | when I started to consider Liberty translation | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | for French install-guide :) | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, nice! thank you for quick review | 07:25 |
| jftalta | I'm still reviewing it | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | For Korean, I am now managing how to contribution OpenStack with translation contribution | 07:26 |
| jftalta | What's wrong with Liberty install guide ? | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | to Korean newbies who want to contribute | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, nothing wrong I think.. but now you cannot change Liberty translated strings.. after your review on Liberty strings | 07:27 |
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| jftalta | Ah, ok. | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | #info eumel8, jftalta, and ianychoi discussed German, French, and Korean translation progress | 07:28 |
| ianychoi | Then.. moving to next topic? | 07:28 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:28 |
| jftalta | M'y train is entering tunnels and i guess i gonna loose the connection for a while | 07:28 |
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| jftalta | Ok | 07:29 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:29 |
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| ianychoi | #topic I18n spec use cases | 07:29 |
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| ianychoi | #info http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/i18n-specs/ is now available! | 07:30 |
| jftalta | Great ! | 07:30 |
| eumel8 | very good | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | I need to then organize this site | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/ | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/ | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | Which one would be more appropriate into i18n team? | 07:31 |
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| ianychoi | I think the structure in infra-specs would be more fit into i18n team, since our candidate spec work is not mainly related to release dates | 07:32 |
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| eumel8 | doc team is more clear and structure, but infra team has sorted to priority. I think also that makes more sence for us. | 07:33 |
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| AndChat|159600 | I agréé. Notion of priority is pretty important | 07:34 |
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| ianychoi | AndChat|159600, hi! can I know your name? :) | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | jf? | 07:35 |
| AndChat|159600 | *agree* | 07:35 |
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| AndChat|159600 | I'm here | 07:35 |
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| eumel8 | the tunnel *g* | 07:36 |
| ianychoi | Okay.. then let's try to follow the form of infra-specs | 07:36 |
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| eumel8 | yes | 07:36 |
| eumel8 | wb, jftalta | 07:36 |
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| ianychoi | #info i18n-specs will follow the form of infra-specs for priority jobs | 07:36 |
| jftalta | I'm back | 07:37 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will polish current i18n-specs structure to see priorities | 07:37 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. next topic? | 07:38 |
| jftalta | Ok | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | #topic Badge position on i18n and i18n-specs repo | 07:39 |
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| ianychoi | oops.. gerrit is not available.... | 07:39 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://gist.github.com/ianychoi/0459a5cb9428347ae7bfc90bd4e0ad47 | 07:40 |
| ianychoi | #link https://gist.github.com/ianychoi/afc9ba945ef31b35bce8e917c11b5f4f | 07:40 |
| ianychoi | The second link looks better because of less vertical heights | 07:41 |
| ianychoi | glonas mentioned that he does not really like to have "Team and repository tags" as the first element of the documentation. | 07:41 |
| ianychoi | And katomo mentioned that it would be good for consistency | 07:41 |
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| ianychoi | How do you think about such controversy? | 07:42 |
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| eumel8 | I think like katomo and the first one looks better | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, first one means.. more vertical spaces? | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:43 |
| ianychoi | oh... but it seems that more people prefer less vertical spaces | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/overview.html | 07:44 |
| eumel8 | that's my first impression ;) | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | I have contacted with Flavio Percoco, a main contributor for such badge and OpenStack governance has selected less vertical speces | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404304/ | 07:45 |
| ianychoi | Like this :) | 07:45 |
| eumel8 | mhmm, ok | 07:46 |
| eumel8 | I can't vote -1, it's already merged ;-)) | 07:46 |
| ianychoi | :) | 07:46 |
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| ianychoi | OK... if there is no more opinion, then I will follow katomo's suggestion :) | 07:47 |
| eumel8 | thx | 07:47 |
| jftalta | m'y Internet connection comes and goes. Sorry... | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, fine :) | 07:48 |
| jftalta | *my* | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | #link https://gist.github.com/ianychoi/0459a5cb9428347ae7bfc90bd4e0ad47 | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | #link https://gist.github.com/ianychoi/afc9ba945ef31b35bce8e917c11b5f4f | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | glonas mentioned that he does not really like to have "Team and repository tags" as the first element of the documentation. | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | And katomo mentioned that it would be good for consistency | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, your choice ? :) | 07:48 |
| jftalta | Give me a sec... | 07:50 |
| jftalta | first one | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | Oh.. first one meant more vertical spaces.. but recently goverance now follows the second one | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | What I want to ask is the first line | 07:52 |
| jftalta | :( | 07:52 |
| eumel8 | good guy, jftalta ;) | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | "Team and repository tags" vs. "OpenStack I18n" | 07:52 |
| jftalta | eumel8: ;) | 07:54 |
| ianychoi | Hmm... let's follow consistency :) | 07:54 |
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| ianychoi | Since there is only 5 mins left, I wanna move to the next topic. | 07:55 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | #link Storyboard vs. Launchpad for bug management and blueprints | 07:56 |
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| ianychoi | Recently, I have heard that OpenStack Foundation has a plan to migrate from Launchpad to Storyboard | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about | 07:56 |
| eumel8 | really? | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, jftalta : if you both have time, could you also think about how translation bugs will be mapped into storyboards successfully? | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | I couldn't imagine that are similar functions | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep it would not be a short-term plan, it would be a long-term plan | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | a bug is a story? | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | mhmm, ok | 07:58 |
| jftalta | I've never used storyboard | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I agree with this part. My current understanding that storyboard is mainly for tasks and Launchpad is mainly for bug management | 07:58 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, please see https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about :) | 07:58 |
| eumel8 | there is no bugs | 07:58 |
| jftalta | Ok, thx | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | OpenStack Foundation wants to more customize Storyboard to better fit into bugs | 07:58 |
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| ianychoi | So.. what I want to ask to both you is.. that let's try to consider how translation bugs can be managed with storyboard ... | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | or the bug is in the story? | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | ok, take a look | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | Launchpad is good but still not fit into translation bugs currently | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi eumel8 jftalta will see storyboard for translation bugs | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | Ok... let's finish today thanks all! | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | I have another important thing now... :) | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | thanks ianychoi | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot eumel8 and jftalta today! | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 1 08:00:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-01-07.12.html | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-01-07.12.txt | 08:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-01-07.12.log.html | 08:00 |
| jftalta | I'll take a look to | 08:00 |
| jftalta | Thx | 08:00 |
| jftalta | cu | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | cu | 08:01 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 1 09:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| gmann | Hi, who's here today? | 09:00 |
| dmellado | o/ | 09:00 |
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| masayukig | \o | 09:00 |
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| gmann | masayukig: dmellado hi | 09:01 |
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| gmann | let's wait for soem time for more people | 09:01 |
| dmellado | yeah, let's wait a bit and otherwise maybe we can just wrap-up quickly | 09:01 |
| masayukig | +1 | 09:02 |
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| gmann | yea | 09:02 |
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| gmann | anyway let's start | 09:03 |
| gyx_ | ./ | 09:04 |
| gmann | gyx_: hi | 09:04 |
| dmellado | hi gyx_ | 09:04 |
| gyx_ | hi gmann | 09:04 |
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| gyx_ | hi dmellado | 09:04 |
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| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_December_1st_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:05 |
| gmann | ^^ Today's agenda | 09:05 |
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| gmann | first we will go through the Ocata priority | 09:05 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-priorities | 09:05 |
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| gmann | I do not have update on my item. still to start :( | 09:06 |
| gmann | dmellado: any chance you get to add spec on this - Add and decorator/comment into bug-reproducing tests to know actual bug number easily from test failure | 09:06 |
| gmann | or oomichi planning | 09:06 |
| dmellado | gmann: I can prepare a spec for that, yeah | 09:07 |
| dmellado | I didn't get to work into that yet | 09:07 |
| dmellado | need to sync with oomichi | 09:07 |
| dmellado | but time zone's being tricky! | 09:07 |
| gmann | mdbooth: cool. Thanks | 09:07 |
| gmann | ops | 09:07 |
| gmann | dmellado: ^^ | 09:07 |
| dmellado | no worries gmann | 09:07 |
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| gmann | mdbooth: just ignore :) | 09:07 |
| gmann | dmellado: ok, may be oomichi will check this log | 09:08 |
| dmellado | gmann: on the next one Remove deep test class Inheritance for easy debugging | 09:08 |
| gmann | next one is - Remove deep test class Inheritance for easy debugging | 09:08 |
| dmellado | I'm gonna de-assign myself for that one | 09:08 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:08 |
| dmellado | as I'm overcommitted | 09:08 |
| gmann | dmellado: ah yea, no issue | 09:08 |
| dmellado | I'm syncing with mkoderer on removing the pinning from manila | 09:08 |
| gmann | i can start may be next week | 09:08 |
| mkoderer | hello all | 09:08 |
| dmellado | and creating the tempest plugin for barbican | 09:08 |
| dmellado | hey mkoderer | 09:08 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea that will be nice if they can use master one | 09:08 |
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| dmellado | but that'd take *quite* some work, so it'd be one of my main focus on this cycle | 09:09 |
| gmann | dmellado: barbican plugin in separate repo right? | 09:09 |
| dmellado | gmann: yeah | 09:09 |
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| gmann | great | 09:09 |
| mkoderer | gmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404637/ | 09:09 |
| gmann | dmellado: sure thanks | 09:09 |
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| gmann | mkoderer: cool. thanks | 09:10 |
| gmann | other is bug triage we will discuss later | 09:10 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:10 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:10 |
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| gmann | policy spec was good just few comment i gave and seems it was updated | 09:11 |
| gmann | i will check that | 09:11 |
| masayukig | so, what do you think "Show team and repo badges on README"? | 09:11 |
| gmann | masayukig: actually i did not read that yet | 09:11 |
| dmellado | by repo badges do you mean some ascii art or link? | 09:12 |
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| gmann | oh it is adding those | 09:12 |
| masayukig | dmellado : it's svg | 09:12 |
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| masayukig | you can see it http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/402528/1/check/gate-qa-specs-docs-ubuntu-xenial/586394f//doc/build/html/README.html#qa-specs-repository | 09:13 |
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| masayukig | (it's not on the top page of the doc, though) | 09:13 |
| gmann | masayukig: nice, ll check after meeting | 09:13 |
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| masayukig | gmann : ok | 09:13 |
| zhihui | hi | 09:14 |
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| dmellado | yeah, I'll have a look too | 09:14 |
| gmann | other spec we discussed and is up for HA testing | 09:14 |
| gmann | zhihui: hi | 09:14 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399618/ | 09:14 |
| masayukig | gmann dmellado : thanks :) | 09:14 |
| gmann | this one will be good to review | 09:14 |
| * masayukig added it in my list | 09:15 | |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks | 09:15 |
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| gmann | test resource one was almost good to go | 09:15 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ | 09:15 |
| gmann | m just waiting for milestone confirmation from oomichi | 09:15 |
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| gmann | anything else on specs? | 09:16 |
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| gmann | ok, let's move to next | 09:17 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:17 |
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| shuyingya | Hi all, I want to consult a question. I use tempest/test.py get_client_manager method and build a auth_provider client. How can I use method addCleanup to delete the resource? | 09:17 |
| gmann | shuyingya: hi | 09:17 |
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| gmann | shuyingya: you want to use on your test right? | 09:18 |
| shuyingya | I found when I execute tempest run everytime, the test will create a user and project in my env | 09:18 |
| shuyingya | yes | 09:18 |
| shuyingya | gmann | 09:18 |
| shuyingya | thanks for your reply ^^ | 09:18 |
| shuyingya | self.client_manager_admin = BaseTestCase.get_client_manager('admin') | 09:19 |
| shuyingya | auth_provider = self.client_manager_admin.auth_provider | 09:19 |
| gmann | shuyingya: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/32a9e308e65b99a80575354532dbca98dea5ea76/tempest/api/compute/admin/test_aggregates.py#L68 | 09:19 |
| gmann | shuyingya: this is one of the example | 09:19 |
| shuyingya | ok, thanks. So I need delete the user_id? | 09:20 |
| gmann | shuyingya: those are if any specific resource you want to delete automatically when test complete | 09:20 |
| shuyingya | and project_id? | 09:20 |
| masayukig | shuyingya , gmann : I think this kind of questions should be in #openstack-qa not here? | 09:20 |
| gmann | shuyingya: ok, so let's discuss after meting | 09:20 |
| gmann | masayukig: yea :) | 09:20 |
| shuyingya | thanks | 09:20 |
| shuyingya | gmann | 09:21 |
| gmann | so on tempest | 09:21 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 09:21 |
| gmann | ^^ open review | 09:21 |
| gmann | currently gate if blocked for layer4 job failure | 09:21 |
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| masayukig | yup | 09:21 |
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| gmann | thanks masayukig for digging into this | 09:21 |
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| masayukig | gmann : np :) | 09:22 |
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| gmann | thats mainly becasue of this -https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343023/ | 09:22 |
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| gmann | so we are reveting that as of now - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405183/ | 09:22 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:22 |
| gmann | and ll check real cause | 09:22 |
| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405183/ | 09:22 |
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| gmann | so devstack core check this soon :) | 09:23 |
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| gmann | oomichi: mtreinish ianw ^^ | 09:23 |
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| gmann | FYI- currently gate is block so recheck would not work | 09:23 |
| gmann | anything else on Tempest side or we jump to bug ? | 09:24 |
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| gmann | this week, it was my turn on Bug triage | 09:25 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage | 09:25 |
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| gmann | i did not get much time to cleanup more i tought | 09:25 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 09:25 |
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| gmann | few of them i triaged or cleaned up | 09:25 |
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| masayukig | great :) | 09:26 |
| dmellado | gmann: is there any bug that would need urgent attention? | 09:26 |
| gmann | we have some ssh one | 09:26 |
| gmann | but not sure as of now | 09:26 |
| * andreaf o/ | 09:26 | |
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| gmann | one i brought earlier also and found bug also for that | 09:27 |
| gmann | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1569562 | 09:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1569562 in tempest "Tempest plugin support for available services mechanism" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ghanshyam Mann (ghanshyammann) | 09:27 |
| gmann | andreaf: hi | 09:27 |
| dmellado | hi andreaf | 09:27 |
| andreaf | hi - sorry I'm late | 09:27 |
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| chandankumar | hello all! | 09:27 |
| gmann | i will push a patch to make service available config option as list and get feedback | 09:27 |
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| gmann | that came during baremetal test removal also | 09:27 |
| gmann | chandankumar: hi | 09:27 |
| dmellado | oh, gmann | 09:27 |
| masayukig | gmann : we should have filed the layer-4 job failure. | 09:27 |
| dmellado | on that I've got a patch ongoing for adding that to the ironic plugin | 09:28 |
| dmellado | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379256/ | 09:28 |
| * masayukig waves andreaf chandankumar | 09:28 | |
| gmann | basically idea is to support plugin service available also so that plugin installation is not needed to check service availability | 09:28 |
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| dmellado | o/ chandankumar | 09:28 |
| gmann | masayukig: ah, yea i will do after meeting | 09:29 |
| masayukig | gmann : great, thanks :) | 09:29 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:29 |
| gmann | dmellado: but that you are adding in plugin | 09:29 |
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| dmellado | gmann: yeah, I just want to bring the point that not all the plugins support that | 09:29 |
| dmellado | that's something that maybe we'll have to take into consideration as well | 09:29 |
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| dmellado | but +1 on your approach | 09:30 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:30 |
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| gmann | dmellado: even when separate repo for plugin then it make very bad | 09:30 |
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| gmann | dmellado: anyways you can check thsi too - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404436/ | 09:31 |
| andreaf | gmann, dmellado: so if I understand the problem right, there's need to a "service available" flag that can be used by plugins to discover which services are available? | 09:31 |
| gmann | andreaf: yes | 09:31 |
| andreaf | gmann, dmellado: I kind of assumed that if a plugin is installed the service is there | 09:31 |
| gmann | andreaf: issue is when they need other service availability which are under plugin config | 09:32 |
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| gmann | andreaf: yes, but if plugin in separate repo then it has to be installed | 09:32 |
| dmellado | andreaf: in my usecase basically is in order to skip tests if the plugin is in-tree | 09:32 |
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| dmellado | but the user is using tempest with system-site-packages enabled | 09:33 |
| dmellado | and don't want to trigger those tests by some reason | 09:33 |
| gmann | andreaf: say ironic is there but other plugin nees ironic service check need to install ironic plugin if it is in separate repo | 09:33 |
| tosky | yep, this may be solved with splitting all the plugins from the repos (as we hope it will happen for Pike) | 09:33 |
| tosky | but right now it's more complicate | 09:33 |
| dmellado | o/ tosky yeah, that will make things easier | 09:33 |
| tosky | complicated* | 09:33 |
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| gmann | tosky: thanks | 09:33 |
| dmellado | along with that, and sorry for the offtopic | 09:34 |
| andreaf | ok I see - well it's up to the plugins to implement a "service available" flag on the plugin side - we can add a note in the docs for that | 09:34 |
| dmellado | is there any plan to hand a cross-project session for this at the PTG? | 09:34 |
| dmellado | andreaf: yeah, and I was thinking maybe at the cookicutter template level too | 09:35 |
| gmann | andreaf: but they have to add their side as tempest would not have currently | 09:35 |
| gmann | andreaf: and other plugin need their service availability for their scenario tests | 09:35 |
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| chandankumar | dmellado: gmann what about finding the service available based on service client python module used? | 09:36 |
| gmann | basically service availability should not be tight to plugin if those are in separate repo | 09:36 |
| andreaf | gmann, dmellado: sure there is a list of service clients avaialble that plugins can use | 09:36 |
| dmellado | chandankumar: hmmm what if the plugin doesn't extend any service client? | 09:36 |
| dmellado | you wouldn't be able to discover anything in that case | 09:36 |
| chandankumar | i mean a service depend on how many other openstack services | 09:36 |
| gmann | chandankumar: but for using service client we need service availability right | 09:37 |
| chandankumar | gmann: yes | 09:37 |
| dmellado | yeah, that'd be a first step too | 09:37 |
| gmann | andreaf: chandankumar dmellado: yea but how we will know whether ironic is available through service clients list | 09:38 |
| andreaf | we could make a helper in the lib with a two steps check: if service available flag exists in config for the service use that, else rely on the service client being available | 09:38 |
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| andreaf | that would work for plugins that do not have a "service available" flag, and it would give the option to plugins to implement that config option over time | 09:38 |
| gmann | but in case Ironic is there, and i do not install their plugin then nor service flag is there nor servcie clients | 09:38 |
| dmellado | yeah, that would work, and also adding that to both the docs and cookiecutter pugin template won't hurt | 09:38 |
| gmann | but still ironic there | 09:38 |
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| gmann | andreaf: but problem is when plugin implement service availability flag only | 09:39 |
| andreaf | gmann: for the ironic case, the ironic plugin would have to implement a "service available | 09:39 |
| gmann | because thats goes to separate repo than service repo | 09:39 |
| dmellado | andreaf: that feature should be merged soon | 09:39 |
| dmellado | so that wouldn't be an issue | 09:40 |
| gmann | andreaf: yes but to get to know that we need to install ironic plugin | 09:40 |
| gmann | which should not be needed actually | 09:40 |
| gmann | my point here is why we should install plugin if service is independetly available | 09:40 |
| dmellado | gmann: I see your point, but as of now it'd be an issue as there a ton of in-tree plugins still around | 09:41 |
| andreaf | gmann: yeah that would be a work-around to help plugins that are in tree | 09:41 |
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| gmann | dmellado: i agree but as we recommended that plugin should be in separate repo we should solve this | 09:41 |
| dmellado | gmann: then should we wait for pike to land that feature? | 09:42 |
| dmellado | because the tc proposal hasn't even been approved yet... | 09:42 |
| gmann | andreaf: for that if we make tempest cinfig flag as list and allow tester/devstack to add plugin service into list | 09:42 |
| gmann | so that any plugin can see available service from tempest config only | 09:43 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea that is still on the way | 09:43 |
| gmann | anyways we are running out of time seems, we can discuss this on qa ? | 09:44 |
| dmellado | gmann: in any case I'll have a look at your patch and yeah | 09:44 |
| dmellado | worst case we can speak about that later or propose a generic blueprint | 09:44 |
| dmellado | should we go on? | 09:44 |
| andreaf | gmann: I don't think we need to do that - if plugin A is not installed, then plugin B won't be even able to see A's options | 09:44 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea may be that is better. i will tr to push early next week | 09:44 |
| andreaf | ok let's continue this discussion later | 09:45 |
| gmann | andreaf: yea | 09:45 |
| gmann | thanks anyways for all input | 09:45 |
| gmann | so we were on bug things | 09:45 |
| gmann | next week seems andreaf ? | 09:45 |
| dmellado | yeah | 09:45 |
| gmann | then chandankumar : thanks for that, it will be really helpful | 09:46 |
| andreaf | yes I guess my bug triage duty starts today :) | 09:46 |
| gmann | andreaf: :) | 09:46 |
| dmellado | \o/ | 09:46 |
| dmellado | xD | 09:46 |
| gmann | next | 09:46 |
| gmann | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 09:46 |
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| chandankumar | gmann: you are welcome :-) | 09:46 |
| gmann | so we need to merge this to unblock gate - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405183/ | 09:47 |
| gmann | other we can skip seems if nothing from anyone | 09:47 |
| masayukig | +1 | 09:47 |
| gmann | #topic openstack-health | 09:48 |
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| gmann | masayukig: ^^ | 09:48 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 09:48 |
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| masayukig | I made one bug fix patch for graph. | 09:48 |
| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402333/ | 09:48 |
| masayukig | But there's few people in openstack-health right now.. :( | 09:49 |
| gmann | masayukig: humm | 09:49 |
| gmann | masayukig: let's see if we cna get more in Atlanta :) | 09:50 |
| dmellado | ;) | 09:50 |
| masayukig | heh, yeah | 09:50 |
| masayukig | And I'll file bug/bp from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-openstack-health | 09:50 |
| andreaf | masayukig: you get my +1, but my js skills are not so good :P | 09:50 |
| masayukig | andreaf : heh, me neither | 09:51 |
| gmann | masayukig: andreaf you both are expert :) | 09:51 |
| dmellado | masayukig: much better than me, at least xD | 09:51 |
| masayukig | I hope so :) | 09:51 |
| gmann | anyways anything more on dashboard | 09:51 |
| masayukig | that's it from my side | 09:52 |
| gmann | ok | 09:52 |
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| gmann | let's move next | 09:52 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:52 |
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| gmann | any critical review currently ? | 09:52 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404981/ | 09:52 |
| andreaf | this is a devstack fix needed to get the personality tests back to life when ssh checks are on | 09:53 |
| andreaf | which is needed if we are to make the ssh job ever voting :) | 09:53 |
| gmann | andreaf: nice, | 09:53 |
| masayukig | andreaf : great, thanks | 09:54 |
| andreaf | it's not the whole story though, there's a nove patch as well, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401366/, and perhaps more | 09:54 |
| gmann | yea was searching that | 09:54 |
| masayukig | I think my skip patch will not be needed after andreaf 's one will be landed | 09:55 |
| gmann | ll check thsoe tomorrow | 09:55 |
| dmellado | added to my backlog | 09:55 |
| gmann | masayukig: may be but its upto you :) | 09:55 |
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| tosky | #endmeeting | 10:07 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 1 10:07:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:07 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-01-09.00.html | 10:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-01-09.00.txt | 10:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-01-09.00.log.html | 10:07 |
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| tosky | \o/ | 10:07 |
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| bauzas | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 1 14:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | howdy | 14:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | o/ | 14:00 |
| sfinucan | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | mriedem is kinda AFK for the next mins, so I'm your waiter for today | 14:00 |
| bauzas | okay, let's start with the agenda | 14:01 |
| bauzas | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
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| bauzas | #topic Release News | 14:01 |
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| bauzas | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | 12/15 is o-2 | 14:01 |
| bauzas | nothing really special this week | 14:01 |
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| lyarwood | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | is the next upcoming milestone | 14:01 |
| bauzas | yeah that | 14:02 |
| mriedem | so 2 weeks from o-2 | 14:02 |
| bauzas | #info 2 weeks from ocata-2 milestone | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | so, folks, gentle reminder that you should really start implementing :) | 14:02 |
| bauzas | soo, good for | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | #link Ocata blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/ocata | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | #info 69 total blueprints, 8 implemented, 14 not started, 36 need code review | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | as mriedem said in his e-mail, we would need to merge 1 BP per day to have all of them implemented | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/108089.html | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | " If you have an approved blueprint/spec but don't have code up for review yet, you'd better get started on that. " | 14:05 |
| bauzas | " If you have blueprint code up for review and actually get review comments, be quick about addressing those comments. Follow up in IRC if it requires a higher frequency discussion than code review allows. " | 14:05 |
| bauzas | any comments ? | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | okay, next topic | 14:06 |
| bauzas | #topic Bugs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| bauzas | we have no critical bugs AFAIK | 14:06 |
| bauzas | we had a gate failure this morning tho | 14:06 |
| bauzas | and we had a problem last week with postgre | 14:06 |
| bauzas | tdurakov: is the live-migrate job fixed ? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:07 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405196/ | 14:07 |
| bauzas | \o/ | 14:07 |
| mriedem | thanks tdurakov | 14:07 |
| tdurakov | looks so | 14:07 |
| mriedem | i broke it :) | 14:07 |
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| tdurakov | np | 14:07 |
| bauzas | I haven't checked logstash | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | tdurakov: yup, thanks for that <3 | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | nothing on the 3rd CI side ? | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | #info Need to move 3rd party CI to use Neutron as we're moving off nova-network. | 14:08 |
| bauzas | mriedem wrote again an email :p | 14:08 |
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| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108246.html | 14:08 |
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| * johnthetubaguy nods with great respect at all the email writing | 14:08 | |
| bauzas | heh | 14:09 |
| bauzas | so, tl;dr: in case you have a 3rd CI using n-net, please use rather neutron now | 14:09 |
| bauzas | or, we would put your job as non-voting | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | else you don't have a passing CI any more | 14:09 |
| bauzas | yeah | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | (soon) | 14:09 |
| bauzas | in other words, please help us use neutron :) | 14:10 |
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| bauzas | no bugs we missed ? | 14:10 |
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| bauzas | I don't think I should be discussing about the postgre bug honestly | 14:10 |
| bauzas | because it's fixed, and because that's something we agreed | 14:11 |
| bauzas | so, moving on | 14:11 |
| bauzas | #topic Reminders | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | #link Ocata review priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | gentle reminder for using that ^ as a way to review subteam patches and priorities | 14:12 |
| bauzas | also, subteams need to make sure that etherpad is not stale | 14:12 |
| bauzas | for their own provided changes | 14:12 |
| bauzas | I can see that etherpad quite good for at least cellsv2 and scheduler | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Yeah, I'll check for scheduler staleness today | 14:13 |
| bauzas | edleafe: thanks | 14:13 |
| bauzas | ... which leads to me to | 14:13 |
| sfinucan | Shameless plug for a corresponding patch in nova-specs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400326/ | 14:13 |
| sfinucan | ...assuming we're still populating nova-specs with priorities | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, cool, I mean to check on that earlier | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | meant | 14:13 |
| bauzas | sfinucan: you make a good point, I actually proposed myself for writing the pike structure as well :/ | 14:14 |
| bauzas | I'll do that right after the meeting, not a big deal | 14:14 |
| sfinucan | bauzas: I just did that :P | 14:14 |
| bauzas | sfinucan: okay, change ? :) | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | sfinucan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404456/ | 14:14 |
| mriedem | the pike structure is different from the ocata priorities | 14:15 |
| bauzas | mriedem: heh, okay | 14:15 |
| sfinucan | mriedem: I'll note that mine's a week older | 14:15 |
| * bauzas adding a new tabn | 14:15 | |
| sfinucan | but I digress :) | 14:15 |
| bauzas | let's discuss that offline | 14:15 |
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| bauzas | but yeah, we need to sort out that thing, agreed | 14:15 |
| bauzas | #topic Stable branches | 14:15 |
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| bauzas | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:16 |
| bauzas | what's up for newton ? | 14:16 |
| mriedem | lyarwood is active on those | 14:16 |
| bauzas | do we plan a point release soon ? | 14:16 |
| lyarwood | ~10 +2'd reviews that need some core love if anyone has time | 14:16 |
| bauzas | do you folks need reviews ? I assume yes | 14:16 |
| bauzas | oaky | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | might release around o-2 | 14:16 |
| lyarwood | we should likely think about a release after that | 14:16 |
| lyarwood | yeah | 14:16 |
| bauzas | cool | 14:17 |
| bauzas | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | lyarwood: do ping me in the mornings if it looks like that needs more love, I keep forgetting to go digging in there :( | 14:17 |
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| bauzas | I cann see a lot of them needing +W indeed | 14:17 |
| lyarwood | johnthetubaguy: thanks, will do :) | 14:17 |
| bauzas | which is cool, thanks lyarwood for paying attention | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 14:18 |
| bauzas | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/mitaka,n,z | 14:18 |
| lyarwood | we should really clear that out tbh | 14:18 |
| mriedem | lots of garbage there... | 14:18 |
| bauzas | lyarwood: how is CI for mitaka ? | 14:18 |
| bauzas | I can see two -1s recently | 14:18 |
| lyarwood | bauzas: no idea for mitaka as there's nothing useful that's landing atm | 14:19 |
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| bauzas | I mean two Jenkins -1s | 14:19 |
| lyarwood | bauzas: these are all old reviews iirc | 14:19 |
| bauzas | okay, so yeah we could clean up those | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | abandon hammer time? | 14:19 |
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| lyarwood | happy to do that if people agree to it | 14:19 |
| bauzas | most of them are already older than 1 month | 14:19 |
| bauzas | so yeah, lyarwood you could abandon them | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just leave a nice note I guess | 14:19 |
| lyarwood | ack I'll do that now, thanks | 14:20 |
| bauzas | heh, hopefully :) | 14:20 |
| bauzas | lyarwood: thanks | 14:20 |
| bauzas | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:20 |
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| bauzas | okay, let's begin the show ! | 14:20 |
| bauzas | for cells v2, I can see some notes from mriedem | 14:20 |
| bauzas | thanks for his gracious attention | 14:21 |
| bauzas | #help Need reviews for Cellsv2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399710/ | 14:21 |
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| bauzas | " There might be some rough waters with cells v1 when we move instance creation to conductor, but we'll see how bad that looks when we get there. Might require some cells v1 conditional hackery." | 14:21 |
| bauzas | which is understandable to me | 14:22 |
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| bauzas | because we have a separate path for creating an instance with cellsv1 | 14:22 |
| bauzas | mriedem: if you're still there, I'd be more interested in details | 14:22 |
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| bauzas | but we can put that offline | 14:22 |
| bauzas | " melwitt is going to check to see what's needed for consoleauth, if anything." | 14:23 |
| bauzas | interesting point as well | 14:23 |
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| bauzas | if folks don't have comments or concerns for cellsv2, let's move on | 14:23 |
| bauzas | edleafe: your call :) | 14:24 |
| edleafe | Quick meeting - the only controversy is whether or not we will be good OpenStack citizens and follow API WG guidelines regarding GET vs. POST for filtering requests. | 14:24 |
| edleafe | Otherwise, just a general sanity check on our progress | 14:24 |
| edleafe | that's it | 14:24 |
| bauzas | we're good citizens | 14:24 |
| edleafe | :) | 14:24 |
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| bauzas | but that doesn't necessarly mean that we can't disagree with our guidelines | 14:24 |
| bauzas | don't folks remember that I'm French ? | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | cdent also has more RP updates here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107982.html | 14:26 |
| bauzas | edleafe: apart of this, any other big things to mention ? I don't think so | 14:26 |
| bauzas | oh right | 14:26 |
| edleafe | nope | 14:26 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391918/ is also ready to go | 14:26 |
| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107982.html for people wanting to get more details about RP progress | 14:26 |
| mriedem | need to keep the resource class stuff moving | 14:26 |
| bauzas | yeah | 14:27 |
| bauzas | I need to look at those patches asap | 14:27 |
| bauzas | moving on | 14:27 |
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| bauzas | Live Migration, tdurakov ? | 14:27 |
| bauzas | you had a meeting AFAIR | 14:27 |
| tdurakov | bauzas: updated agenda, nothing special for today | 14:27 |
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| bauzas | okay, seems like you folks are aligned with the priorities etherpad, cool | 14:28 |
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| bauzas | tdurakov: I'm still a bit afraid of us being dependent on libvirt not supporting unicode, but okay :) | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | moving on? | 14:30 |
| bauzas | alex_xu, sdague, API ? | 14:30 |
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| alex_xu | The hot topic still is query parameter https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ | 14:30 |
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| alex_xu | The spec updated for ignoring the filter/sort keys which we think is bad, instead of returning 400. This is good for not break the client directly. Also add policy rule to ensure those bad filter/sort for people really depend on it. | 14:30 |
| alex_xu | Also change the strategy a little for which filter/keys we should keep, after figure out more how index can help us. | 14:30 |
| bauzas | oh okay | 14:30 |
| mriedem | sdague, dansmith and i talked a bit about that yesterday too, | 14:31 |
| alex_xu | then looking for feedback on the spec | 14:31 |
| mriedem | i need to get back to reviewing that one | 14:31 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: thanks | 14:31 |
| bauzas | cool | 14:31 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: I guess you have code up against that one ? | 14:31 |
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| bauzas | that could help reviewing the spec | 14:31 |
| alex_xu | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/consistent-query-parameters-validation | 14:31 |
| bauzas | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/consistent-query-parameters-validation | 14:32 |
| sdague | alex_xu: ignoring instead of 400 seems safest here | 14:32 |
| alex_xu | the base spec have code patch now ^ | 14:32 |
| bauzas | alex_xu: great | 14:32 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 14:32 |
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| bauzas | okay, moving on | 14:32 |
| bauzas | SRIOV, moshele, sfinucan ? | 14:32 |
| bauzas | I can see sfinucan writing some email too | 14:32 |
| lbeliveau | worth mentionning that we are thinking about moving the meetings to bi weekly | 14:33 |
| bauzas | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108267.html | 14:33 |
| bauzas | lbeliveau: okay, not yet settled ? | 14:33 |
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| lbeliveau | I think so :) moshele is supopsed to send an email soon | 14:33 |
| sfinucan | ...and the only thing I can think to point out is that jaypipe's has his resource provider patches for SR-IOV devs up | 14:34 |
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| bauzas | lbeliveau: okay, just make sure you update the wikipage and provide a patch against eavesdrop | 14:34 |
| sfinucan | or he did - there were issues with some of them. Either way, worth looking at | 14:34 |
| lbeliveau | yeap | 14:34 |
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| bauzas | sfinucan: the nested resource providers ? | 14:35 |
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| sfinucan | yessir - those ones | 14:35 |
| bauzas | anyway, moving on | 14:35 |
| sfinucan | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nested-resource-providers | 14:35 |
| bauzas | cool, thanks | 14:35 |
| bauzas | gibi, notifications | 14:35 |
| gibi | notification transformation work progresses steadily | 14:35 |
| bauzas | ? | 14:35 |
| bauzas | okay | 14:35 |
| gibi | the ocata priority etherpad is up to date with patches waiting for core review | 14:36 |
| bauzas | nothing really we should care of ? | 14:36 |
| bauzas | sweet | 14:36 |
| gibi | the searchlight related notification bp got an assignee | 14:36 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight | 14:36 |
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| gibi | I hope we will see the patches soon | 14:36 |
| bauzas | cool | 14:36 |
| bauzas | let's move on | 14:36 |
| bauzas | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:37 |
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| bauzas | I can't see any stuck review mentioned in the agenda | 14:37 |
| bauzas | so, next topic unless someone shouts | 14:37 |
| bauzas | #topic Open Discussion | 14:37 |
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| bauzas | flood is yours, folks, I don't have something specific in mind | 14:37 |
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| bauzas | and nothing is written in the agenda | 14:38 |
| bauzas | that said, I maybe have one point about the placement API being mandatory for Ocata, and when we send that signal | 14:38 |
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| bauzas | do we assume that the placement API will become mandatory once the scheduler begins consuming those resources, or when we have the resource tracker stopping reporting usage the old way ? | 14:39 |
| bauzas | I tend for the former | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | is there some block migration check we need to land first? | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | blocking | 14:39 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: we have to be able to actually support it first | 14:39 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: and we were going to do it with the "nova-manage upgrade status" command | 14:40 |
| edleafe | bauzas: obviously it has to be mandatory after the second case | 14:40 |
| dansmith | like an "all things are go for upgrade" | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: thats probably a good place to start | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, I like that | 14:40 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I missed that specific command | 14:40 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: it's a bigger thing than just a single db, so we have to do it outside a migration I think | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | I got a request from someone about, "tell me if all the DB migrations are done" | 14:40 |
| bauzas | dansmith: is that something planned ? | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, that can cover the cells things too I guess | 14:41 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that command will be useful for all phases I think | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: +1 sounds good | 14:41 |
| dansmith | bauzas: it's just an idea I had -- we have discussed it a couple times | 14:41 |
| bauzas | dansmith: I like that idea tbh | 14:41 |
| bauzas | like "it's green, you can do that" IIUC ? | 14:41 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:41 |
| dansmith | or "it's done, nothing else to do" on the other side | 14:42 |
| bauzas | then I'm totally cool with that | 14:42 |
| bauzas | dansmith: that would mean we would require the placement API to be started before you deploy Ocata, right? | 14:42 |
| dansmith | that's what we've been discussing anyway | 14:42 |
| bauzas | yeah, I know | 14:43 |
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| bauzas | I was more concerned by when we would signal that or how | 14:43 |
| edleafe | dansmith: also, "you need to do a, b, and c first" | 14:43 |
| bauzas | anyway, I'm done | 14:44 |
| bauzas | does someone has something to discuss ? | 14:44 |
| bauzas | I really want to save us 15 mins * number of participants | 14:45 |
| bauzas | thanks folks | 14:45 |
| bauzas | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 1 14:45:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-01-14.00.html | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-01-14.00.txt | 14:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-01-14.00.log.html | 14:45 |
| mriedem | thanks bauzas | 14:45 |
| macsz | thanks :) | 14:45 |
| bauzas | np | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops, I missed my note | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am out next week | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | but thats all really | 14:46 |
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| macsz | johnthetubaguy: do we want to set default value of ``use_neutron`` to True right now? | 14:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | macsz: I think there were folks working on the patches to make that possible, I would reach out to mriedem | 15:12 |
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| mriedem | macsz: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/use-neutron-by-default | 15:13 |
| mriedem | vmware ci barfed all over that last night | 15:13 |
| jaypipes | sorry I'm late y'al | 15:13 |
| macsz | and jaypipes did some patch for this too, afair | 15:13 |
| jaypipes | macsz: link? which patch, sorry.. | 15:13 |
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| macsz | i was trying to find it, but maybe i remembered wrong - patch that breaks nova-net for not cell-v1 deployments | 15:14 |
| jaypipes | macsz: yeah, I don't remember working on that. (then again, I'm losing my memory in my old age :P | 15:14 |
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| macsz | my mind might be playing tricks on me | 15:15 |
| macsz | :D | 15:15 |
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| jaypipes | :) | 15:15 |
| macsz | time to retire for me | 15:16 |
| macsz | I must wait additional 45 years for this, though | 15:16 |
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| jaypipes | hehe | 15:16 |
| mriedem | macsz: that's this now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/403855/ | 15:17 |
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| macsz | well, jaypipes was not even in the comment section, gotta get new brain | 15:18 |
| macsz | anyway thanks, will take a look into this bp | 15:18 |
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| armax | ahoy | 21:59 |
| haleyb | ahoy cap'n | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | Hi | 22:00 |
| brianstajkowski | o/ | 22:00 |
| blogan | o/ | 22:00 |
| johndperkins | o/ | 22:00 |
| armax | hello folks | 22:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 22:00 |
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| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 1 22:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | hola! | 22:00 |
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| armax | we’re a couple of weeks away from O-2 | 22:02 |
| armax | in case you have not noticed | 22:02 |
| armax | :) | 22:02 |
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| armax | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 22:03 |
| armax | O-2 is the week of Dec 12 | 22:03 |
| armax | I wanted to take a few minutes of this meeting to do some sanity checking on our backlog | 22:04 |
| armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-2 | 22:04 |
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| armax | I am wondering if there are a few iitems in tehre that are no longer relevant | 22:05 |
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| armax | BPs like diagnostics, routed networks catch my attention as specs that are potentially understaffed | 22:06 |
| armax | because both carl_baldwin and amuller have moved to greener pastures | 22:06 |
| ihrachys | also sec group logging is still in spec discussion mode; and probably flow management for l2 extensions? | 22:07 |
| armax | I was also wondering if it’s still relevant to track fwaas_v2 for this cycle | 22:07 |
| kevinbenton | I think mlavalle is moving along on routed networks well | 22:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | ++ | 22:07 |
| armax | kevinbenton: my understanding is that his focus is mostly nova-side this cycle | 22:07 |
| kevinbenton | Isn't that all that's left? | 22:08 |
| armax | but the neutron side that carl_baldwin had in mind is effectively unstaffed | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | Oh, the floating ip stuff? | 22:08 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes. | 22:08 |
| armax | kevinbenton: no, there was making external networks routed aware | 22:08 |
| armax | so to speak | 22:08 |
| carl_baldwin | I've been talking with a few folks, mainly john_davidge about that stuff. | 22:08 |
| carl_baldwin | Going to meet with him Monday. | 22:08 |
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| kevinbenton | I think we should do a different blueprint to track that | 22:08 |
| carl_baldwin | I agree | 22:08 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ok | 22:09 |
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| armax | let me get togetehr with mlavalle and john-davidge | 22:09 |
| armax | and we’ll reassess | 22:09 |
| boden | armax: understaffed meaning not enough cores to help drive, correct? | 22:09 |
| armax | boden: have you got in touch with amuller? | 22:09 |
| boden | armax: yes, he’s looking for someone to help drive the diagnostics spec/work | 22:09 |
| armax | boden: pretty much yeah | 22:09 |
| armax | ihrachys: as for the logging spec, rossella said she was still keen to help | 22:10 |
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| armax | but if it tooks us 4 cycles to get the spec in order | 22:10 |
| boden | armax: … and we are back to square 1 with a new spec | 22:10 |
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| armax | I am not gonna speculate on how long it’s gonna take to agree on the code | 22:11 |
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| boden | armax: if we can’t get the spec closed soon, then it’ll surely be difficult to contain in Ocata | 22:11 |
| boden | so go review it! ;) | 22:11 |
| armax | boden: if we can at least agree on the specification, that would be a big step forward | 22:12 |
| boden | armax: spec is ready.. grab a beverage and enjoy | 22:12 |
| armax | boden: you’re funny :) | 22:12 |
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| armax | come my side of the screen and I’ll show you my backlog :) | 22:12 |
| boden | armax: IMO its ready for some core feedback… I’m hoping its a bit simpler, but who knows | 22:12 |
| armax | boden: I am not the only core in the room ;) | 22:13 |
| armax | anyone else has anything in mind? | 22:13 |
| boden | armax: understand; theres no lack of work.. I’m hoping we can progress with the spec anyway | 22:13 |
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| armax | I am going to take a pass at the milestone dashboard and clean it up a bit | 22:13 |
| armax | it’s been neglected lately | 22:13 |
| johnsom | FYI, I moved the one LBaaS bug out if you refresh you screen. | 22:14 |
| armax | johnsom: only one? | 22:14 |
| armax | lazy | 22:14 |
| johnsom | The *only* lbaas bug that was on your O-2 list, because we are cool | 22:14 |
| armax | johnsom: understood | 22:15 |
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| johnsom | I'm still working on the other 60 I just inherited... lol | 22:16 |
| armax | ihrachys, kevinbenton: how’s the stuff assigned to you going? | 22:16 |
| ihrachys | for ovo, I think we are making good progress, and we got rossella_s helping us lately with reviews, which is nice. | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | armax: ok. should still be able to get the l2 agent done for push notifications by end of cycle | 22:17 |
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| ihrachys | for no-downtime-upgrades, we landed the patch that guards against contract scripts; and we are looking at port binding spec for live migration, giving suggestions on how to make model changes in the new world. | 22:18 |
| armax | ihrachys: that’s great | 22:18 |
| ihrachys | as for push-notifications, I tend to review when kevinbenton has something for me | 22:18 |
| armax | in fact I wanted to bring up the next topic I had in mind | 22:18 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs | 22:18 |
| armax | open specs | 22:18 |
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| armax | the high profile ones I can think of are: diagnostics, port status, and port binding | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | port status i think is pretty close | 22:19 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392023/ <- this should not exist, rfe is postponed | 22:19 |
| armax | anything else come to mind that require some focus and attention? | 22:19 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: what is the timeline for these if they get ready? | 22:20 |
| brianstajkowski | port binding we just need to nail down the model changes, if any, everything else is shaping up and should be close soon | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | armax: can we start landing stuff in ocata | 22:20 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: land what type of stuff? | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | armax: like if port status gets approved for example | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | armax: can we merge code this cycle? | 22:21 |
| armax | if the code is ready, sure | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 22:21 |
| armax | I hope I can get time by today and tomorrow to have a pass to the ones I mentioned | 22:21 |
| armax | hoping no gate fire preempts me from thi | 22:22 |
| armax | s | 22:22 |
| armax | :) | 22:22 |
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| armax | anything else that comes to mind about this list of specs? | 22:23 |
| brianstajkowski | the rfe | 22:24 |
| armax | brianstajkowski: can you be more precise? | 22:24 |
| brianstajkowski | the rfe's in o-2, are those open to spec work as well | 22:24 |
| brianstajkowski | sorry hit enter too quickly | 22:24 |
| brianstajkowski | specifically the subnetpool rfe | 22:25 |
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| armax | brianstajkowski: bug 1558812? | 22:25 |
| openstack | bug 1558812 in neutron "[RFE] Enable adoption of an existing subnet into a subnetpool" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1558812 - Assigned to Ryan Tidwell (ryan-tidwell) | 22:25 |
| armax | I should have taken the RFE bug out of Ocata | 22:26 |
| armax | when I took the blueprint out | 22:26 |
| armax | because Ryan and Carl had no cycles this...cycle | 22:26 |
| armax | brianstajkowski: is this what you’re referring to? | 22:26 |
| brianstajkowski | yes | 22:27 |
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| armax | though I saw you and Ryan chatted recently | 22:27 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin, the big issue with that spec was worrying about all of the race conditions, right? | 22:27 |
| kevinbenton | s/spec/rfe | 22:28 |
| armax | not sure if the interest is related to a recent surge in staffing | 22:28 |
| armax | kevinbenton: something along those lines, iirc | 22:28 |
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| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Yes. I wanted an atomic adoption of all subnets on a network. | 22:29 |
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| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: can you comment on the RFE what race conditions you can think of? | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: just so we have them recorded | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: and know what to watch out for if someone picks it up in th future | 22:30 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: sure, I can do that. | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin: thx | 22:30 |
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| mlavalle | armax: ping | 22:31 |
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| kevinbenton | mlavalle: he's in shock :) | 22:32 |
| armax | mlavalle: I was wondering if we should move blueprint routed-networks out of O | 22:32 |
| armax | at least the neutron-side of it that carl_baldwin had in mind to work on | 22:33 |
| armax | unless you and john davidge have a handle on it | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | we can handle it | 22:33 |
| armax | in any case we’d need to update assignee/approver on the blueprint | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | the only piece missing is the interaction with Nova | 22:34 |
| armax | mlavalle: how’s the nova side going? | 22:34 |
| mlavalle | and I am working on that | 22:34 |
| mlavalle | it is pretty advanced | 22:34 |
| armax | mlavalle: that’s not what this spec should be tracking though | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | armax: so then we should mark it as done for neutron IMO | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | armax: and open a new one for floating IP stuff | 22:35 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ok, that’s what I am leaning on too | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | yes, the Neutron side is done | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | except the floatingip stuff | 22:35 |
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| armax | ok | 22:35 |
| haleyb_ | i can be approver | 22:35 |
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| mlavalle | and I will have the Nova side done | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | this cycle | 22:35 |
| armax | at this point this is pike material | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | sorry, what is pike material? | 22:36 |
| armax | deferred to PIke the floatingip stuff you referred to | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | yes | 22:36 |
| armax | ok | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | how do you want to track the nova side piece for this cycle? | 22:37 |
| armax | mlavalle: I don’t :) | 22:37 |
| armax | I trust you you get it done unsupervised :) | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's do something | 22:37 |
| armax | jokes aside, is there a spec/bp on the nova side of the fence? | 22:38 |
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| mlavalle | No, because it's really code I am writing on the Neutron side | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | that integrates with Nova | 22:38 |
| armax | OK, do you have a patch # handy? | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | yes, hang on | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358658/ | 22:39 |
| armax | are you getting enough nova core attention? | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358658/ | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | yes, I am getting nova core attention | 22:39 |
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| mlavalle | kevinbenton reviewed that patchset a few days ago | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | and we agreed on a the next step | 22:40 |
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| kevinbenton | ugh my memory is bad | 22:40 |
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| kevinbenton | i forgot there is still neutron side stuff to do | 22:40 |
| armax | mlavalle: ok, let’s keep the blueprint open for this cycle, I’ll update the whiteboard to reflect the scope of the work for ocata | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | that should fall under the blueprint then | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | armax: cool | 22:41 |
| mlavalle | I'll make sure I update you every weekly meeting | 22:41 |
| armax | kevinbenton the enginefacade-switch blueprint has lost its approver | 22:41 |
| armax | on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/ocata/+assignments | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i can be approver for that | 22:42 |
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| armax | we should really get the defectors to pass the baton | 22:42 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: because i understand what is required | 22:42 |
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| armax | HenryG, carl_baldwin, amuller ^ | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | armax: and have been reviewing some of Ann's patches already | 22:42 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ok | 22:42 |
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| armax | ok, I have some work to do with this dashboard and the various backlogs | 22:44 |
| armax | any other item that comes to mind? | 22:44 |
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| kevinbenton | can we change this meeting time? | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | since the TZ switch it conflicts with another one i have | 22:45 |
| armax | kevinbenton: what do you have in mind? | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | an hour earlier or later :) | 22:45 |
| armax | kevinbenton: an hour later should work for me | 22:45 |
| armax | it’ll probably not work for ihrachys | 22:46 |
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| armax | but I guess it’s a matter of weeks | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | it will work, anything will | 22:46 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: can you put up for one more week? | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | yes, in a month, I will be in a better place | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yep | 22:46 |
| armax | ihrachys: but I won’t :) | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | ptls gonna suffer | 22:46 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: are you moving? | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle: yes, always on the move | 22:47 |
| ihrachys | I can also live next time with +1h | 22:47 |
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| armax | +1 means 11pm CET | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | well my meeting that conflicts is every other week | 22:47 |
| armax | ok | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | so we can certainly wait two weeks to start the new time | 22:47 |
| armax | so your conflict is this week or the next? | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | this week | 22:48 |
| armax | ok | 22:48 |
| armax | we can move it sooner too | 22:48 |
| armax | and that actually works better for me and ihrachys | 22:48 |
| kevinbenton | i think sooner is harder on amotoki isn't it? | 22:48 |
| armax | true | 22:48 |
| armax | it would be 6am | 22:48 |
| armax | let me also get also of amotoki to see where he’s at | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 22:49 |
| armax | we have 2 weeks to sort this out | 22:49 |
| armax | by then there won’t be a neutron project anymore so the problem will solve itself out | 22:49 |
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| kevinbenton | dramatic | 22:49 |
| armax | as always | 22:49 |
| armax | ok, anything else? | 22:49 |
| armax | other request? | 22:49 |
| armax | I am in the christmas spirit | 22:50 |
| armax | no money requests please | 22:50 |
| ihrachys | I accept gift cards | 22:50 |
| mlavalle | first day of December. time to be in the Christmas spirit | 22:50 |
| armax | I can get you a christmas card | 22:50 |
| armax | all the gift cards I had I gave them to dougwig | 22:50 |
| armax | but he claims he has never received them | 22:51 |
| dougwig | nope, never did. | 22:51 |
| armax | if theres’ nothing else that can be discussed in 10 mins I’d say let’s get 10 mins back | 22:52 |
| armax | 8 now | 22:52 |
| ihrachys | took 2 minutes to type it? | 22:52 |
| armax | dougwig: I am still waiting on the nginx fix! | 22:52 |
| armax | ihrachys: I type like a sloth | 22:52 |
| dougwig | armax: and i'm still waiting on my gift cards. mutually assured destruction. | 22:52 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: there is a patch isn't there? | 22:53 |
| armax | dougwig: if that is not THE definition of passive aggressive I don’t know what is! | 22:53 |
| armax | :) | 22:53 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: yes | 22:53 |
| armax | in merge conflict | 22:53 |
| armax | kevinbenton: but to your point | 22:53 |
| dougwig | ha. that's a -2 for you, somewhere down the road. | 22:53 |
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| armax | we did move forward a bit | 22:53 |
| armax | so I can’t complain too much | 22:53 |
| armax | ok folks | 22:55 |
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| armax | thanks for joining | 22:55 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 1 22:55:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-12-01-22.00.html | 22:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-12-01-22.00.txt | 22:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-12-01-22.00.log.html | 22:55 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 22:55 |
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