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| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| ttx | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, stevemar, lbragstad, smcginnis | 15:01 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 15:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 11 15:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:01 |
| ttx | Agenda @ https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-tracking (scroll down to R-3 week) | 15:01 |
| ttx | #topic Missing RC1 | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Missing RC1 (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
| ttx | We have a number of cycle-with-milestones deliverables that are still missing RC1 / stable/pike branching | 15:03 |
| ttx | designate (+ designate-dashboard) | 15:03 |
| ttx | heat | 15:03 |
| ttx | manila | 15:03 |
| ttx | searchlight (+ searchlight-ui) | 15:03 |
| ttx | unclear ETA for them | 15:04 |
| dims | o/ | 15:04 |
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| ttx | so I propose we don't wait for them before we do the devstack / requirements branching | 15:04 |
| dims | ++ ttx | 15:04 |
| dims | and grenade | 15:04 |
| ttx | If they still haven't done anything next week we'll probably just cut one for them | 15:05 |
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| ttx | #topic Standing Library freeze exception requests | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Standing Library freeze exception requests (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:05 | |
| ttx | We have os-win @ https://review.openstack.org/492483 | 15:06 |
| * dhellmann slinks in late | 15:06 | |
| ttx | includes a regression fix that affects certain environments (clustered Windows / Hyper-V Server 2016 nodes) - without it, VMs cannot be spawned in such environments. | 15:06 |
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| dims | ttx : "Clustering Hyper-V" so fail on some environments | 15:07 |
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| ttx | I think that would not warrant a global-req bump | 15:08 |
| ttx | but that would still trigger an uc bump | 15:08 |
| dims | y, hold the line on just uc bump | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:09 |
| ttx | well he did not ask for a req bump so... | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | should we do that before the requirements branch? | 15:09 |
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| ttx | shall we approve this before branching ? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | ttx: manila rc1 expected in about 90 minutes | 15:09 |
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| ttx | bswartz: thanks! | 15:09 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I would say yes | 15:09 |
| dims | ttx : no need | 15:10 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the only thing that bothers me a bit is the .Y bump | 15:10 |
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| dhellmann | why? | 15:10 |
| ttx | in the middle of a lib freeze it feels like only .Z bumps shall be allowed | 15:10 |
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| dhellmann | ah | 15:11 |
| * ttx looks at what warrants the .Y bump | 15:11 | |
| dims | ttx : dhellmann : they can backport just that specific review and ask for 2.1.1 and we can deal with that next week | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | should we ask them to branch and backport the critical fix? | 15:11 |
| ttx | I would go with smallest change | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | that seems like it's going to take a while | 15:11 |
| dims | they already cut stable/pike from 2.1.0 | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | oh, did they? | 15:11 |
| claudiub | os-win? | 15:11 |
| claudiub | it was cut automatically. :) | 15:11 |
| dims | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492483/1/deliverables/pike/os-win.yaml | 15:11 |
| ttx | claudiub: yes | 15:11 |
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| dhellmann | oh, yeah, if there's a pike branch that fix can be backported to that | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | and this should be a queens release | 15:12 |
| claudiub | the fix is backported to pike already | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | aw | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | you backported features, too | 15:12 |
| ttx | hmm, I think the stable/pike branch got a couple of featury things like [Trivial] Add method checking if a disk is claimed by MPIO | 15:12 |
| ttx | which is why it bumped to 2.2.0 | 15:12 |
| ttx | It's difficult to hold the line with so many projects not following stable policy, but that's a tangential discussion | 15:13 |
| ttx | yes, stable/pike was pretty busy over the last 14 days | 15:14 |
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| dims | claudiub : what percentage of installs are the "clustered" variety? | 15:14 |
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| ttx | Look all like clean backports though | 15:15 |
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| lpetrut | dims: most of our customers use Hyper-V clusters actually | 15:15 |
| claudiub | that patch is not really a feature. there's an issue regarding MPIO, a race condition, and it is required by: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490894/ | 15:15 |
| ttx | I guess that's limited risk since that code is only loaded on the platform the late version is supposedly fixing | 15:15 |
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| claudiub | which should be backported to pike as well, after it merges on master. | 15:16 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: given the nature of the lib I'm willing to give it a free pass | 15:16 |
| dims | ttx : as long as it does not affect g-r | 15:17 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I guess I can go along with that | 15:17 |
| ttx | right | 15:17 |
| ttx | Let's approve while nobody else is looking | 15:17 |
| dims | kk | 15:18 |
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| * fungi saw that ;) | 15:18 | |
| ttx | claudiub: next time try to be more conservative on what you backport :) | 15:18 |
| claudiub | ttx: sure. :) | 15:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: remove your -1 ? | 15:18 |
| dims | lol fungi | 15:18 |
| * smcginnis finally got to 10000 ft | 15:18 | |
| ttx | The new PTl is here, just pretend nothing happened | 15:19 |
| dims | hehehe | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | ttx: approved | 15:19 |
| ttx | ok, next topic | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | oh, should we get dims and smcginnis to pile on to give us cover? :-) | 15:19 |
| dims | smcginnis : there's NOTHING under the carpet | 15:19 |
| ttx | #topic When to do the branching work ? | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "When to do the branching work ? (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:19 | |
| ttx | Shall we start just after this meeting, despite it being Friday ? | 15:20 |
| dims | yes ttx | 15:20 |
| ttx | do you all have a couple of hours to kill ? | 15:20 |
| dims | i am up for it | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | yes, I have time to help | 15:20 |
| ttx | I shall be able to spend next 90min before life calls | 15:20 |
| dims | and we'll lose sdague if we don't do it today (he's on vacation next week) | 15:20 |
| ttx | ok, let's close meetign fast then | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:20 |
| ttx | EVERYONE is on vacation enxt week | 15:21 |
| fungi | even me! | 15:21 |
| dims | oh boy | 15:21 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 15:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:21 | |
| dhellmann | the european influence is rubbing off | 15:21 |
| ttx | So nobody has been updating the tracking page | 15:21 |
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| ttx | Which is why I feel it's useless at this stage | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | Sounds good to me. | 15:21 |
| ttx | I've been using https://releases.openstack.org/pike/index.html | 15:21 |
| ttx | even if due to post jobs it trails a bit | 15:21 |
| fungi | which tracking page, the etherpad? | 15:21 |
| ttx | If I need accurate status I've been grepping the releases repo | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | Sorry, appears to be a lot of lag. :) | 15:22 |
| dims | ttx : y i never even opened it | 15:22 |
| ttx | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F2hFo6cf1OvIyoC-ifRpVgrkFiYMzbNFTr2MsAYLpqs/edit#gid=223155692 | 15:22 |
| ttx | Review tasks for next week | 15:22 |
| ttx | err ignore that last line caught in paste | 15:22 |
| fungi | the pike-relmgt-tracking pad is what i assumed anyway | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | ttx: the list-deliverables command also has some useful query args | 15:22 |
| ttx | dhellmann: right | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | --missing-stable-branch etc | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | that's what I use, because I can git pull and get the latest info | 15:22 |
| ttx | So keeping the gdoc up to date is a bit painful and error-prone | 15:22 |
| ttx | Let's ignore it | 15:23 |
| ttx | We can use the tracking page to list open issues when fire will start spreading | 15:23 |
| ttx | (the etherpad one) | 15:23 |
| ttx | I know, confusing | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:23 |
| ttx | OK. Last topic: next week's tasks | 15:23 |
| dims | agree | 15:23 |
| ttx | Quick review of what's listed on R-2 | 15:23 |
| fungi | we also have ethercalc.openstack.org now if you want to do spreadsheets and would rather avoid the goog | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thanks, good point. | 15:24 |
| ttx | Looks like most of thye tasks are R-1 tasks | 15:25 |
| ttx | so I moved them | 15:26 |
| ttx | I think the only timely tasks is the release notes check | 15:26 |
| ttx | the rest is more like R-1 work | 15:27 |
| ttx | Anything we should definitely do on R-2 instead of R-1 ? | 15:27 |
| ttx | i.e. we shoulddn't produce last release candidates too early | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | The couplethings there look good to me. | 15:27 |
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| ttx | since they need to ingest late translations updates | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | ttx: We would still want to process RC requests if a project feels they are ready, right? | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Or is there a reason to hold. Ah, late translations. Got it | 15:28 |
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| ttx | smcginnis: yes, especially if they have a significant bugfix they want to throw "out there" for testing | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Makes sense. | 15:28 |
| ttx | but we'd still need to refresh the RC on R-1 week | 15:28 |
| ttx | to catch for late translations | 15:28 |
| ttx | dhellmann, dims: does that make sense ? | 15:29 |
| dims | yep | 15:29 |
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| ttx | I'll take on the two remaining tasks for R-2 | 15:29 |
| ttx | since I'm off on R-1 | 15:30 |
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| dhellmann | all of that seems ok | 15:30 |
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| ttx | OK, let's close and get the branching show on #openstack-release started | 15:31 |
| ttx | Anything else before we close ? | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | nothing from me | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Nor me. | 15:32 |
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| dims | i haven;t been able to raise any of the requirements folks on their channel yet | 15:32 |
| dims | ++ to close | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | we should add a note to the process doc to coordinate the requirements branching time with them ahead of time so there is someone available | 15:33 |
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| ttx | ack | 15:33 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 11 15:33:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-08-11-15.01.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-08-11-15.01.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-08-11-15.01.log.html | 15:33 |
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