Thursday, 2017-08-17

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ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:01
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ekcshi all! as usual, the collaborative topics list for the meeting is here:
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ekcsfeel free to add/comment00:02
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thinrichsHi all.00:09
thinrichs(Sorry I'm late.  Got to leave early too.)00:10
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ekcsoh hi thinrichs !00:11
ekcsramineni on vacation this week and masahito may be traveling.00:11
ekcsso we can spend some time talking or just catch up next week.00:12
thinrichsEither way.  I only have 15min or so.00:15
ekcsok. well. I’ve been dropping down thoughts in the PTG etherpad.00:17
ekcsI think in the past few cycles we had clear deficiencies and problems to work on.00:17
ekcsat this point though, I feel we may need to consider higher level directions to inform our lower level priorities.00:18
ekcsyour input would be super helpful.00:18
ekcsthat’s one thing I wanted to bring to your attention.00:19
thinrichsI think it'd be valuable to start targeting specific use-cases that folks have and solve them end-to-end.00:20
thinrichsWe're doing that to some extent with the policy library and remediating problems.00:20
thinrichsTalking to Bryan from ATT and to NFV operators as you suggest could point to real pain points00:21
thinrichsThere's also the suggested use-case around configuration invariants that came up a couple weeks back.00:22
thinrichsIt may be a cycle where we spend a lot of time talking to people to understand what the major pain points in OpenStack are that we can help with.00:24
thinrichsOne thing that was on my list for a long time is working to help people manage all the policy.json files.00:25
thinrichsSecurity groups is another popular one00:25
ekcshmm good point about the possibility of focusing the cycle on that instead of features.00:25
ekcsFor me I feel like there is a bit of a bifurcation between the traditional enterprise use cases and the NFV use cases.00:26
ekcsAnd I’d like to understand much better whether/where congress provides value in the NFV use cases.00:27
thinrichsThat could be.  It'd be fine to pick 1 class of use-cases and focus on that for a while.00:27
thinrichsProbably even smart to pick 1 class of use-cases00:28
thinrichsOr even better 1 use case00:28
ekcshmm makes sense.00:29
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ekcsone way to break down the classes of use cases:00:32
ekcs1. “human” policy kind of cases.00:33
ekcs2. “fault-recovery” kind of cases00:33
ekcsI think congress was originally designed to address 1.00:33
ekcsbut there have emerged many people interested in using congress for 2.00:33
ekcsand what use-case(s) we pick to focus on may depend on a better understanding of whether/where congress plays in 2.00:34
ekcsso I’m studying up on things and hopefully connecting with some people to have more context for PTG.00:36
thinrichsTalking to people who have ideas definitely sounds like a good plan.00:37
thinrichs(I'm not sure what 1 is — someone looking at violations in a dashboard?)00:37
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ekcsthat’d be one case. I’m still formulating what it means really. but seems qualitatively diferent from the idea of00:40
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ekcswriting policy as a way to react to contingencies in a self-managing system.00:41
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ekcsending meeting now. I’m available in #congress if anyone wants to talk!00:47
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zhenguo#startmeeting mogan02:01
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zhenguoliusheng, shaohe_feng, wanghao, litao__, Xinran, zhangyang: o/02:01
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zhenguoas always, the agenda:02:02
zhenguolet's jump in02:02
zhenguo#topic announcements and reminders02:03
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zhenguoThe default resource class has changed to baremetal in ironic instead of constructing with the properties02:03
zhenguoWhich broke our gate, but we have already addressed it, you may find the change in your new devstack env02:03
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liushengthanks for fixing that02:04
litao__zhenguo: great02:04
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zhenguoWe have replaced the default_availability_zone with default_scheduled_zone, so and ironic node will not have a default avaiability zone if you don't add it to the aggregate02:05
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zhenguothe default scheduled zone is None, and we don't filter it when scheudling02:05
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wanghao_so you can't create the server before you add the nodes to aggregate, doesn't?02:06
zhenguothe default scheduled zone is None02:07
zhenguowhich means we can choose any node02:07
zhenguoregardless of the az it in02:07
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zhenguowanghao_: seems we didn't send out our weekly report durning last two weeks :(02:07
zhenguowanghao_: when you are busy, maybe litao__ and liusheng can help :D02:08
wanghao_zhenguo: yes, sorry for that,  I send this weekly report this morning!02:08
wanghao_zhenguo: sure, shame on me :(02:09
zhenguowanghao_: hah02:09
liushengyes, sure, thaks for wanghao doing that02:09
liushengwe others can also help if wanghao are busy :)02:09
zhenguowanghao_: oh, just found the report mail, thanks02:09
wanghao_zhenguo: :)02:09
shaohe_fengzhenguo: morning02:10
zhenguoshaohe_feng: o/02:10
zhenguook, pike release is due soon, we will create the branch by the end of this month02:10
zhenguoseems requirements has cut the pike release, so our pike branch will not get update from requirements then02:11
zhenguook, anything else?02:12
zhenguothe openstack client keyword :D02:12
zhenguowhich do you perfer02:13
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zhenguoliusheng, wanghao_,litao__, shaohe_feng?02:14
wanghao_what are the options? I forgot them...02:14
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litao__zhenguo: baremetalcomptue02:15
zhenguofirst I think we should choose one from baremetal and baremachine02:15
zhenguoif we want to keep baremetal02:15
zhenguowe need to add another word with it02:15
wanghao_I want to keep baremetal02:15
zhenguolitao__: +102:15
zhenguowanghao: +102:16
wanghao_baremetalcompute sounds good02:16
liushengbaremetalcompute is not a normal word02:16
zhenguoliusheng: we don't need normal work02:16
litao__liusheng: baremetal is combination of bare and metal02:17
wanghao_or baremetal_compute02:17
zhenguoyes, I also find other project use combination to avoid colisions02:17
liushengyes, but baremetal is a common useage, baremetalcompute not02:17
liushengyou can google it02:17
liushengand also baremachine02:18
zhenguoafter we use it, it will become famous maybe, lol02:18
liushengthe meaning is same with baremetal02:18
zhenguoI still don't quite like baremachine02:19
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wanghao_since nova use compute in openstackclient,  baremetal_compute means we support baremetal compute.02:19
shaohe_fengbaremetal looks good for me02:20
wanghao_liusheng: baremachine is not common in opentack at least.02:20
litao__yes, baremachine is same to baremetal actually02:20
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zhenguoyes, I like to keep baremetal as well02:20
zhenguobut do you like baremetalcompute or baremetal_compute02:20
wanghao_baremetal: Ironic,  compute: Nove,  baremetal_compute: Mogan boom!02:21
zhenguoI find zun use containerapp to avoid collisions with magnum02:21
zhenguois it easy to type "_" ?02:22
wanghao_I do some checks in openstackclient, seems no client use '_'02:23
litao__I like baremetalcompute02:23
wanghao_baremetalcompute  I'm ok with both.02:23
zhenguohah, ok02:24
wanghao_zhenguo: your call, you can have a decision.02:24
zhenguowe can make descision during next meeting02:24
litao__yes, Its tendency is to remove “-“, If we use it , it is strange.02:24
zhenguolitao__: +102:25
wanghao_we can make a vote qucikly for it.02:25
wanghao_baremetalcompute +102:25
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zhenguobut I prefer to keep the current keyworkd for a week, replacing it is easy :D02:26
wanghao_that's sure02:26
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zhenguook, let's move on02:27
zhenguoContribution into mogan for the last 30 days02:27
zhenguothanks all for the contributions02:28
zhenguoand again, please do more reviews02:28
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wanghao_en sure02:28
litao__come on02:29
zhenguoXinran: besides coding, I would like you to learn to do reviews, it's more interesting :D02:29
zhenguoshaohe_feng can mentor you02:30
shaohe_fengzhenguo: sure.02:30
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zhenguohah, ok anything else?02:30
Xinranzhenguo, hah ok02:30
zhenguoXinran: thanks02:30
shaohe_fengmaybe be I can reserve some time review code with Xinran02:30
zhenguoshaohe_feng: sounds good02:31
zhenguook, let's move on02:31
Xinranshaohe_feng,  thanks for carry me hah02:31
zhenguo#topic task tracking02:31
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zhenguolooks like things are moving along nicely02:32
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zhenguoI added a task to support another type of serial console, socat02:33
zhenguoand we will support vnc console later for some specific hardeare drivers02:34
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litao__zhenguo: great02:35
wanghao_those will be supported in Pike?02:35
litao__I think no much time left02:36
zhenguosocat will be supported in Pike02:36
zhenguowil finish by the end of this week02:36
wanghao_got it02:36
zhenguoboot from voluem can be move to next cycle02:37
zhenguoI think we only have scheuling for server group and managing running servers before pike02:37
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zhenguoand on client side, seems also many thinks to do02:38
liushengsounds good02:39
liushengwill finish the server group + schedule_hint work at most in next week02:40
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zhenguoliusheng: cool02:41
wanghaozhenguo: you can add client tasks in our etherpad, I can help if I am free.02:41
liushengzhenguo: :)02:41
zhenguowanghao: ok, thanks02:41
wanghaozhenguo: np02:41
zhenguoliusheng: seems we discussed to get ird of the flavor access uri02:42
zhenguoreturn it with flavors for admins, and use patch method for flavor to update it02:43
liushengzhenguo: ok, not sure if Nova has saparated API interfaces for flavor zccess02:43
zhenguoliusheng: nova does02:43
liushengzhenguo: oh, looks a bit redundant02:43
zhenguoliusheng: yes02:44
zhenguoanyone wants to take the task02:44
liushengI can take it, but it is easy, if someone else what to take, feel free to take it02:45
zhenguoif someone else wants to do it please contact with liusheng :D02:45
liushenghah, sure02:45
zhenguomaybe Xinran can have a try02:45
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zhenguolitao__: how about the power action failed patch?02:46
litao__zhenguo: sorry, I am offline for a while02:47
zhenguolitao__: ok, we can discuss later02:47
litao__zhenguo: I have update the patch02:47
shaohe_fengXinran: can you take it? it is not hard02:47
zhenguolitao__: just found it02:47
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wanghaome too, internal meeting.   My task is will update the manage-existing patch according zhenguo's review.02:48
zhenguowanghao: ok, thansk02:48
wanghaoand we need some reviews on cinder client patch.02:48
wanghaoI will test it ASAP.02:48
zhenguowanghao: sure02:48
zhenguoanother thing is about the server nics02:49
liushengwe will accept the cinder client patche firstly before Pike ?02:49
zhenguoliusheng: not sure02:49
liushengzhenguo: ok02:49
zhenguoliusheng: another thing is about the server nics02:50
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zhenguoliusheng: do we need to return all network things to users02:51
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liushengzhenguo: oh, the all network things include what ?02:51
zhenguoliusheng: and the meening of nics seems should be the ironic port02:51
zhenguoliusheng: network id, port_id, fixed_addresses, floating_ips,...02:52
liushengzhenguo: seems currect it including these stuff02:52
liushengzhenguo: * currently02:52
zhenguoliusheng: we have another API to return such things /states/networks02:53
liushengzhenguo: oh, I see, you mean we can simplify the nics in response of server body ?02:54
zhenguoliusheng: yes, but not sure what should be returned02:54
zhenguoliusheng: and should we also return nic without neutron port associated02:55
zhenguoliusheng: nic is more about hardware02:55
zhenguooh, seems not much time left02:56
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liushengzhenguo: sounds reasonable, ok, we can disscuss later02:56
zhenguowe can continue this discussion later02:56
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zhenguolet's move on02:56
zhenguo#topic open discussion02:56
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zhenguowho's got a thing :)02:56
zhenguook, thanks everyone for joining the meeting!02:58
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ianychoiHello. Anyone for today I18n meeting?13:00
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ianychoieumel8, hello113:01
eumel8hello ianychoi13:01
ianychoiHi :)13:01
jftaltaHi !13:01
eumel8the core core team ;)13:01
ianychoijftalta, oh hi!13:01
ianychoiCore core - haha :)13:02
jftaltajust came back from  vacation13:02
ianychoijftalta, oh how was your vacation?13:02
jftaltayes, nice, but a little bit cloudy ;)13:03
ianychoi:) Vacation is always good :)13:03
eumel8the "old" problem - with clouds13:03
ianychoiEven weather has a "CLOUD"...13:03
jftaltaeumel8, btw Congrats !13:04
ianychoieumel8, congrats :) jftalta plz reply to i18n mailing list :)13:04
eumel8thx, jftalta13:04
jftaltaianychoi, I did it13:04
ianychoijftalta, oh really sorry13:04
eumel8maybe I have to start the meeting now. or ianychoi wants?13:05
ianychoiI have just seen it13:05
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jftaltaianychoi, no, non, don't be sorry. It was only a couple of minutes from now13:05
ianychoieumel8, whatever, would you start? Note that I have slightly added:
eumel8got it13:06
eumel8#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting13:06
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 13:06:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:06
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'13:06
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eumel8we have ianychoi, jftalta, eumel813:06
eumel8anyone else?13:06
ianychoiyep :)13:06
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eumel8#topic Checking current String Freeze status with Pike release13:07
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eumel8ianychoi: pls go ahead!13:07
ianychoiThe next week Aug 21 - Aug 25 is for "Final RCs and intermediary releases".13:07
ianychoiThanks to Horizon team - especially robcresswell, on next Monday or Tuesday, there will be Horizon RC2 with up-to date translation.13:08
jpich(I'm around too, sorry for the delay! o/)13:08
jftaltajpich, hello13:09
eumel8ianychoi: are there some feedback about the request to change the branch on openstack-dev?13:09
ianychoiI heard from him that currently lots of contribution are performed in master branch, not stable-pike branch.13:09
eumel8hi jpich :)13:09
ianychoijpich, oh hello! How was your vacation? :)13:09
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jpichianychoi: It was awesome, thank you :)13:09
eumel8side note: everyone was on vacation ...13:09
jpichhaha. Hope everyone had a great time then!13:09
ianychoieumel8, one feedback (feature request during soft stringfreeze) was from Cinder - smcginnis13:10
smcginnisWhat did I do? :)13:10
eumel8ianychoi: yes, saw it, I think13:10
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ianychoismcginnis, oh sorry :) I reminded your feature freeze request replies in openstack-dev to I18n team.13:10
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ianychoiSince I18n team now has less priority on server projects, I agreed to approve such feature freeze request.13:11
smcginnisianychoi: Oh right! I almost forgot about that.13:11
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ianychoismcginnis, and congrats for release mgmt. PTL :) I am sure that dealing with feature freeze requests would be related to releases.13:11
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smcginnisThanks - probably true. ;)13:12
ianychoiBack to I18n team, we need to guide translators now to focus on stable-pike version, not master version.13:12
eumel8we will see13:12
ianychoiamotoki, hi!13:12
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eumel8hi amotoki13:12
jftaltaamotoki, hi13:13
amotokieumel8: now your turn :) congrats for PTL13:13
ianychoiAlso, unfortunately, => zh-CN and zh-TW languages do not work unfortunately as far as I know.13:13
jpichFor information, with regard to freezes and tripleo-ui (cycle-trailing), we have not cut RC1 yet so there is still some flux in the codebase and no stable/pike branch - but changes now are more likely to be new strings added due to Feature Freeze Exceptions, rather than string changes at this point13:13
jpichamotoki, hello13:13
eumel8thx amotoki - this will be some hard work for me ;)13:13
ianychoijpich, yep... I quite understand :) eumel8 - note that tripleo-ui follows cycle-training13:14
amotokire zh-CN/TW issue, I believe the problem was fixed in master and stable/pike horizon13:14
amotokiit is rather than a fix. it is just "revert" (of auto-generation of the lang list)13:14
jpichianychoi: There are higher priority projects to translate right now so perhaps fair to leave cycle-trailing aside until it's a bit more stable :) I'll keep the team updated, when the new branch is created etc13:15
amotokijpich: +113:16
ianychoiamotoki, unfortunately there still might be some problems for zh-CN and zh-TW..13:16
ianychoijpich, thanks a lot for your kind update :)13:16
amotokiI can chat yuko tomorrow to clarify the detail13:16
jpichNo problems!13:16
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eumel8thx amotoki13:17
ianychoiamotoki, thanks a lot.. hope that more Chinese translators will investigate in it..13:17
amotokieumel8: do you still see the problem in your check site?13:17
ianychoiamotoki, yes when I check it about 5 hours ago.13:18
ianychoieumel8, did you update your translate checksite with up to date sources from master?13:18
amotokifrom my investigation and guess, there are two problems (eumel8's and ykatabam's)13:18
eumel8amotoki: haven't updated yet. I want to wait for the RC2 next week13:18
ianychoieumel8, now stable-pike and master has amotoki's latest revert patch. It would be great if you reflect up-to-date sources..13:19
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eumel8ok, will try it13:19
ianychoieumel8, thanks a lot13:19
amotokiwe are back to the manual maintenance of lang list now13:20
eumel8Immediately :)13:20
amotokii hope someone will take care of it13:20
ianychoiAnd also I appreciate all the kind contribution from translators - I see that so many translators are doing hard regarding string freezes13:20
amotokirecently I don't take care of translation progress anymore13:20
ianychoiI received a message from Turkish translators that they would focus on Turkish translations on last weekend.13:21
jftaltatwo new french translators last week :)13:21
eumel8I catched our apprentice today :)13:22
eumel8turkish openstack is also really cool. it's growing up...13:23
eumel8so., next topic?13:23
amotokione thing to note: neutron-lbaas-dashboard Pike RC1 looks broken. The table cannot be rendered (according to #-horizon channel)13:23
eumel8ianychoi: maybe you have some advices what we have to do next week regarding the RC213:24
eumel8amotoki: what a pitty13:25
ianychoiNow It is suggested to complete translation work by Monday or Tuesday of the next - final RC week13:25
amotokiwhen does translation happen every day?13:26
eumel8ok, then we have a hot weekend13:26
ianychoiThat's all from now and we can write to i18n mailing list that translation on stable-pike version is highly encouraged.13:26
amotokihorizon team does nothing special. we just wait for regular translation import and merge it.13:26
jftaltaianychoi, +113:26
ianychoiAfter it, I will merge from master to stable-pike version, since it seems that now lots of translation are happened in master version, not stable-pike version.13:27
ianychoiamotoki, yep such translation sync job has been already prepared with eumel8 and me thanks to Andreas's help13:27
amotokiI think rob would like to cut RC2 with enough time margin. it means Tue or Wed will be RC2.13:27
ianychoiamotoki, agreed - I meant around next Tue.13:28
eumel8ok, let's move on13:28
eumel8#topic IRC agenda updating methods13:28
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ianychoiCurrently, I18n team updates agenda on
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ianychoiI just followed the same previous way what Daisy and katomo did and also Docs team & Infra team uses the same way13:29
eumel8I think there are two proposal : the wiki, and the etherpad13:29
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ianychoiBut.. with amotoki 's suggestion, using Etherpad might be an alternative idea.13:30
amotokii think when katomo was PTL, etherpad was used IIRC13:30
ianychoiI have recently seen like:
amotokibut meetings were not regularly held.13:31
amotokii have no preference13:31
ianychoiamotoki, thanks for correction.13:31
eumel8I saw also the etherpad way in other teams but they have a telko + etherpad. IRC + etherpad is for me a kind of duplicated13:31
ianychoiI also have no preference, but I want to listen to opinions from others :)13:31
ianychoieumel8, which one do you prefer? :)13:32
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jftaltadoes not matter for me13:32
amotokiat some time ago, newcomers could not edit openstack wiki due to spammer, but I believe the problem has gone13:32
eumel8ianychoi: for me is the wiki page still the favorite. the only thing: you removed the previous topics in wiki?13:33
ianychoieumel8, yes I did it.. but remaining previous topics might be a better idea?13:33
eumel8don't know - you have still the notes from the irc bot13:33
jftaltait's cool to locate the information at a single place13:34
eumel8it's also duplicated stuff if you held this also in wiki13:34
ianychoiActually I really have no preference - I just followed the same way as Docs & Infra team.13:35
eumel8haha, follow the white rabbit ;)13:35
ianychoiPersonally, I browse previous meeting logs and it is fine for me to just see previous irc logs..13:35
amotokiin neutron case, we don't keep the past agenda
amotokibut it depends on a volume of the page13:36
ianychoiIf anyone has special preference, we can do AS-IS :)13:36
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ianychoiOr if someone has a preference, we can try to follow it :)13:36
eumel8new communication channels were also a topic in the past for us. If we still use IRC, I would prefer wiki as announcement and links for the meeting13:36
ianychoiI see :)13:37
amotokias non meeting chair, when I edit the page, I keep the current contents and just add something.13:37
ianychoiThis is the current I18n team meeting chair and time information.13:37
ianychoiHmm, if anyone has no preference, let's move to next topic and discuss it later.13:39
amotokii am okay with any way as long as we aren't confused and have a single way :)13:39
eumel8okay, I think we are fine at the moment. No changes too much ;)13:39
ianychoiI did not want to more focus on this topic too much..13:39
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eumel8#topic PTG planning Queens September 11-15th 2017, Denver13:39
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eumel8okay, maybe you've already heard from the PTG in Denver starting in 4 weeks13:40
jftaltawho will be in Denver ?13:41
eumel8ianychoi prepared a etherpad for us and the second link is a main link of all events13:41
eumel8that's a good question13:41
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ianychoiNote that Docs team and I18n team will use the same room AFAIK13:41
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amotokiI will be there and join i18n sessions when there is no other prioritized ones13:42
amotoki(as usual)13:42
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ianychoiThere might be several topics with Docs + I18n team - at least, how to support translations after doc migration - for example, migrated networking-guide.13:43
jpichI'll be in Denver - not primarily for i18n but I hope to attend sessions as I can :)13:43
amotokiI added some topics related to doc-migration around L.33 in the etherpad page13:43
amotokibut I am not sure I can join the session13:43
eumel8I think I will be there13:44
ianychoiOh so great...!13:44
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jftaltacool :)13:44
amotokiI believe eumel8 coordinate doc translation topic :)13:44
ianychoieumel8, would u do that? It would be so great - Docs & I18n team can collaborate together :)13:45
amotokiI believe ianychoi and I can help sharing the current topics around doc-migration and translations.13:45
ianychoiSure :)13:46
eumel8at first we infiltrate the infra team to install the translation check site. I asked andymccr already :)13:46
eumel8and  doc team and i18n team goes together, that's clear13:46
jftaltaand efficient13:47
ianychoiGreat :) eumel8: I mainly used reservable rooms to discuss with Infra team with appointment:
eumel8I will work on the agenda till the weekend so there is a plan what we have to do there13:47
eumel8ianychoi: thanks, I saw the message also. Additional room is a good idea13:48
amotokior you can visit infra/QA room13:48
ianychoiYep :)13:48
eumel8okay, then we have an impression and will talk about the PTG next week13:49
eumel8#topic Policy work in Queens13:49
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amotokior a joint session with docs/infra/i18n teams. I believe we have topics across all three prijects13:49
amotokisorry for polutting the topic ;(13:49
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eumel8a new thing is coming up from the foundation13:50
eumel8Policy work13:50
eumel8there will be also support on the PTG13:50
amotokihow is it related to i18n? I am not sure.13:50
eumel8but I have no idea what that mean for us :-)13:50
amotokias API guy in the neutron team I need to lead this in the team though13:51
eumel8amotoki: thats the question. Maybe it's related to Zanata and the different roles there13:51
ianychoiI think the policy would be less related..13:51
ianychoieumel8, I think updating like this would be a good idea to appropriately respond to the goal.13:52
eumel8thx ianychoi13:52
amotokiwith 90% confidences, we have no service, so it is not related to the i18n team13:52
amotokiit is the effort to convert policy.json in service projects into in-code policy defintions13:53
ianychoiNote that I originally wanted to propose a "i18n:follows-policy" tag like and I wanted tripleo-ui to follow the policy with the agreement from jpich assuming I18n cross project works well.13:53
eumel8I would reserve a very small slot with the foundation to explain that. Maybe there are more opinions or ideas.13:53
jftaltahard work...13:53
ianychoiSuch kind of encouraging a policy for I18n would have higher priority in I18n team.13:54
jpichI agree with amotoki about the policy session13:54
jpichianychoi: +1!13:54
amotokiianychoi: how is it related to the policy work in Queens?13:54
ianychoiamotoki, as far as I know, such policy work was affected from docs-migration.13:55
amotokiianychoi: could you elaborate more?13:55
amotokiI am confused13:55
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ianychoiNow I think it is a good timing for I18n to also emphasize "i18n:follows-policy" tag13:55
ianychoiamotoki, the current community goal is not related to I18n team.13:56
amotokiianychoi: I think that's a different policy13:56
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amotoki"policy-in-code" is the policy framework provided by oslo.policy13:56
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jpichI think the Policy etherpad is policy as in "API permissions for accessing services programmatically" (handled by Keystone), not about written policies for project governance13:56
amotokiit is not a policy defined by TC13:57
jpichWhat amotoki said :-)13:57
amotokithanks for more understandable description, jpich :)13:57
eumel8ianychoi: mhm, would you write your ideas on a etherpad or e-mail? So we can catch this during PTG13:57
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ianychoiWhat I meant was that documenting a policy might be somewhat affected from doc-migration13:58
ianychoiPolicy in code itself is not related to I18n too much from my understanding.13:58
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amotokiianychoi: i wonder how policy-in-code and doc-migration are related...13:59
eumel8okay, guys, lot's of topics today and lot's of discussion. but we are at the end.13:59
amotokieumel8: if we talk about "policy-in-code" topic, you can assign me as a contact13:59
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ianychoiamotoki, I simply thought that "documenting default policy in code" emphasizes each project team to document more..13:59
eumel8ok, thanks a lot for all, you can discuss in i18n further :)14:00
amotokiianychoi: got it14:00
jpichThanks eumel8 :)14:00
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ianychoiThanks a lot, eumel8!14:00
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jftaltathanx, goodbye, see you14:00
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jamemcc#startmeeting LCOO14:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 14:01:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jamemcc. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'lcoo'14:01
jamemccHi - anyone here for LCOO meeting14:01
zhouyaguohi, jamey14:02
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jamemcczhouyagou - please introduce yourself and your organization14:03
AndyUHi All  o/14:03
zhouyaguoHi, everyone, this is Yaguo Zhou from China UnionPay, hello from Shanghai, China. :)14:04
shintarohi zhouyaguo14:04
AndyUHi. I'm Andy Ukasick from AT&T living in Wisconsin, USA.14:05
AndyUWelcome  :)14:05
zhouyaguothx, Andy.14:06
jamemcc#topic IRC for Meetings14:06
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jamemccWe are talking on the audio bridge and now here on the topic of IRC for LCOO metings - at least fo rthis general coordination meeeting.14:06
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jamemccIts pointed out that for OPNFV they do this AUdio and Wiki and IRC14:09
jamemccBut for the IRC use its really only to capture the action items and URLS for later14:09
shintarohere is the agenda14:10
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AndyUzhauyaguo, please create an account and join here if you have not already done so:
jamemcc#agreed to continue simulataneous IRC with this meeting14:16
jamemcc#topic Specialization-Extreme Testing14:16
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zhouyaguoAndy, i already have an account :)14:16
AndyUThe same account will also give you full access to a related Jira site:
AndyUok, great.  what is your email or account name?  I'll make sure you have full access.14:18
jamemccBeing related thatis seems that Extreme Testing is going well following the development proposal process.14:18
jamemccSampath frmo NTT and Gautam from AT&T with Sundar help meeting weekly and producing deliverables.14:18
jamemccEmphasis is to keep the scop extrmeely simple and make the why and what extremely simple but will be useful.14:19
zhouyaguoAndy, my email is zhouyaguo@unionpay.com14:19
shintaroThey had a good discussion at the OpsMeetup. Explained the scope to other operators and had a good reaction from attendees. Just need to market our activity to wider community.14:20
AndyUok, thanks. I saw two accounts, that one and another  Should I deactivate the account?14:20
shintaroGood discussion on the operators ML.14:21
jamemccHoping to have phase 1 scope ready to share out - all deliverables clear by end of next week.14:21
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shintarojamemcc: great!14:21
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zhouyaguoandy, oh, sorry, deactivate gmail account pls.14:22
jamemcc#agreed once the structure/vision/deliverables is done bring it as a SIG proposal14:23
jamemcc#action Jamey Bring to SIG once ready14:24
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jamemcc#topic Announcements14:31
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AndyU@zhouyagou your account is all set. Go here and 'edit' the page. When you do it will be like an etherpad.
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jamemccIRC Rules14:32
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AndyUShould we call you 'Zhou'?14:32
AndyUWe're at agenda item 2.114:33
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zhouyaguook.thank u, andy. Zhou is my last name, call me Yaguo :)14:34
AndyUGreat.  Hi Yagou!  :)14:34
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AndyUYaguo - type'@' followed by your name in the name section of the page and then it will find your account to select14:39
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zhouyaguoandy - cool14:41
jamemccTalking now about who is attending PTG - there will be communicaty members from all LCOO organizations14:41
shintaro5 members from my team is going to PTG14:42
jamemccTalking also about upcoming Open-Dev conference.  Botth AT&T and NTT sending staff.14:42
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AndyUWe've moved to agenda item 2.2 - There is a meeting planned for August 30th between the leaders/executives of our lcoo member companies14:47
jamemcc#topic Stakeholders Meeting AUgust 3114:47
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AndyUTo discuss current company priorities & strategy for openstack14:48
jamemccThere will be a meeting August 31 for the Stakeholders form each LCOO organization to share status and direction with each other14:48
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AndyU@Yaguo - If your company would like to join, please coordinate with Jamemcc14:53
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AndyUaka Jamey McCabe14:53
jamemcc#topic Future of LCOO14:53
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jamemccIt is 1 year for our group and a good time to adapt our approach form what we started with.14:54
jamemccSome things have not come out as we originally envisioned and other opportunities e.g. SIG is now available.14:55
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zhouyaguoandy - ok, i'd like to join.14:56
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jamemccSuggestions welcome from anyone.14:57
jamemccProposal to have LCOO turn into more of a monthly sharing session is being discussed.14:59
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jamemccTHanks for attendance today15:00
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andreaf#startmeeting qa17:00
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andreaf#link Today's agenda17:00
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andreafwho's here today for the meeting?17:01
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andreafmtreinish, afazekas: around?17:02
andreafok let's get started17:03
andreafprevious week actions are still for gmann17:03
andreaf#action gmann to send ML for upcoming removal of deprecated interfaces and its affect on stable branches17:04
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andreaf#topic PTG17:04
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andreafFor the PTG, Mon/Tue we will share a room with infra/release/requirements/stable for the help hours17:05
andreafSince questions are likely to span across the responsibility of multiple teams17:05
andreaflike Tempest plugins is a lot about setting up the repo which is infra like mtreinish mentioned17:06
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andreafalso it will make it easier for the room to always be attended by someone17:06
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oomichiandreaf: how about after Wed?17:07
andreafIf you are going to be at the PTG and plan to join QA sessions please do add your name to the list in
andreafoomichi: after Wed we'll have a room dedicated to QA for QA team discussions and code sprint17:08
oomichiandreaf: do you have separated room for qa project for separated topic on Wed?17:08
andreafso Wed through Friday17:08
oomichiandreaf: cool, I'd like to join online17:08
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andreafoomichi: I'll try to make a decent schedule for people who want to join remotely17:09
oomichiandreaf: thanks, that will be helpful for us17:09
andreafoomichi: remote attendance at PTG may be tricky but we'll see what we can do, we can always setup a quick hangout or so if it makes sense17:10
andreafanother thing will be the ptg bot - it will be possible for people to see what's going on in different rooms in real time via a web page (or in IRC)17:10
oomichiandreaf: yeah, it is nice to have discussion on the same time even if that is remotely for moving forward together17:10
andreafas long as room owners will provide the info of course17:11
* oomichi nods17:11
andreafwe have quite a few ideas for things to do at the PTG17:13
andreafif there is anything that needs to be discussed before the PTG for preparation please add it to the meeting agenda17:13
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andreafand if you have more ideas / things to be discussed please add them in there17:14
andreafI expect each session will be lead/moderated by the person proposing it, unless stated otherwise17:14
andreafone last thing17:15
oomichiyeah, each person needs to17:15
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andreafif you have special scheduling needs in terms of conflicting meetings or late arrival / early departure you may want to track this on the etherpad as well17:16
andreafok enough for the PTG from my side17:16
andreafanything else?17:16
andreaf#topic Gate Stability17:16
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andreafGate failure categorisation rate is still pretty low - partly my fault since I've been busy with patches and ignored by duty on that17:17
andreafI scheduled myself for next week to get more categorization in place17:18
andreafThe gate usage is still pretty high, a lot of time we are using all nodes available17:18
andreafand failure rates seems to be still a bit too high looking at the graphs17:19
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oomichiyeah, the usage seems still maximum17:19
andreafI knew folks in infra were investigating networking issues and slow nodes, but I don't have any news on that17:20
andreafanything else on gate stability?17:21
andreafok moving on17:21
andreaf#topic Specs Reviews17:22
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andreafanything on specs?17:22
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andreafjust a reminder for folks to please review open specs before the PTG17:22
andreafso we get there prepared and we can plan queens work accordingly17:22
andreafok moving on17:23
andreaf#topic Tempest17:23
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oomichioh, I notice now needs to be updated. OK, I will do before PTG17:23
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andreafprateek: around?17:24
andreafAnything on Tempest to be discussed?17:24
mtreinishoomichi: heh, it's only been 2 yrs so far :p17:25
oomichimtreinish: yeah, that is the same age of my last kid :)17:25
andreafoomichi: do you think you'll have bw to work on that during queens?17:25
oomichiandreaf: yeah, the spec working item will be I can work in queens17:26
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andreafoomichi: cool :)17:26
oomichiI want to make it grow17:26
andreafoomichi: do you know any user / cloud that would benefit from that?17:27
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oomichiandreaf: yeah, my company folks want to use it for system integrations17:27
oomichibefore releasing it on production17:28
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andreafoomichi: cool good to hear some feedback on that17:28
oomichiI guess that is usual use case of the feature17:28
andreafoomichi: if you have any more description / use cases from NEC to be put in an etherpad or so it might be useful as well17:29
andreafoomichi: yeah indeed17:29
andreafoomichi: I was going to use that for Helion ... long time ago17:30
oomichiandreaf: yaeh, ok I make them write on that17:30
andreafok moving on17:30
andreafThis week I've been working on two things on Tempest side17:30
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andreafone is cleanup the console log of the unit test jobs which has become polluted with pieces of logs from various tests17:31
andreafthat's still in progress17:32
andreafone of fixes breaks fwaas and another one removes a stable interface so it's not really straight forward17:32
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andreafmtreinish: do you think we need deprecation for DEFAULT_PARAMS?17:33
andreafit's a stable interface but it has been so for only a few days :S17:34
mtreinishandreaf: I'm totally fine just deleting it17:34
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andreafoomichi: perhaps you want to weigh in as well, if we can get consensus on deletion it would great I don't think this is worth a lot of extra effort really17:35
andreafThe other thing I've been working on is making validation resources and stable17:36
andreafI've found some interesting unit test issues17:36
oomichiandreaf: humm, I could not follow  ^^^, maybe that is gmann?17:36
oomichigmann puts -1 on that17:37
andreafoomichi: yeah gmann recommends we go through deprecation17:37
andreafoomichi: but I'm not fully convinced it's worth it in this case17:37
oomichiandreaf: I am good to remove it directly if we never say it as stable interface even if users exist17:38
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andreafoomichi: the module was declared as a stable interface a few days ago17:39
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oomichiandreaf: omg, that is..17:39
andreaf7 days ago to be precise :D17:40
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oomichiI need to be your enemy on this case ;)17:41
andreafoomichi: also that dict is not the correct one to use, so if we leave it around we should fix it17:41
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oomichiandreaf: ok, I will check it more carefully after meeting17:42
andreafoomichi: cool thanks17:42
andreafso anything else on Tempest?17:43
andreaf#topic Patrole17:44
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andreafanything on Patrole to be discussed?17:44
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blancosFelipe has a few things for the PTG17:44
blancosbut nothing urgent that I can think of17:45
andreafblancos: ok17:45
andreafif nothing else, I'll move to open discussion17:46
andreaf#topic Open Discussion17:46
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mtreinishon the stestr migration stuff, I think the ostestr patch is ready:17:46
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mtreinishI'm hoping people could test it out, because I'm sure I'm missing an edge case somewhere17:47
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mtreinishlike just the other day I realized most projects won't have an .stestr.conf, so ostestr will have to parse the .testr.conf and pass the args to stestr17:47
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mtreinishbut overall I'm really happy with that transition, it makes the code so much cleaner17:48
mtreinishand eventually we can hopefully remove the testr transition bits and make it just a straight passthrough command (and eventually maybe even delete the ostestr entrypoint)17:48
andreafI will try it out17:49
ltosky[m]couldn't that issue (missing .stestr) and potentially others be discovered with some.targeted reviews?17:49
andreafeventually we'll have to migrate .testr.conf to .stestr.conf - but I guess we can do that over time17:50
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andreafmtreinish: I wss wondering - is there support in stestr for the test bisect - to find dependencies between to tests?17:51
mtreinishandreaf: yeah:
andreafmtreinish: I had to do that today, I didn't manage to get testr doing that for me so I handed up scripting it myself quickly17:52
mtreinishthat was just straight ported over from testr though17:52
mtreinishso I haven't really tested it17:52
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andreafmtreinish: ok I will test it17:52
mtreinishandreaf: ah, ok. Well we can work on fixing that to make it easier17:52
mtreinishltosky[m]: targeted reviews?17:52
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mtreinishltosky[m]: like getting people to look at it? Or throwaway test patches?17:53
ltosky[m]the latter17:53
ltosky[m]Well, not that the former is bad :)17:53
mtreinishyeah, I thought about doing that, but I didn't want to waste test nodes right now17:54
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andreafone last thing17:57
andreafwhat should I name the module in
andreafchanging that name in that patch is daunting process17:57
andreafso I'd rather do it once only :D17:57
mtreinishandreaf: I'm happy with the name there now17:57
andreafsuggestions on the patch are welcome17:57
andreafmtreinish: heh ok thanks17:59
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andreafok thanks for joining everyone :)18:00
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dansmith#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Aug 17 21:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
efriedGonna be a quiet one, what with all the cores vacationing.21:00
dansmithhope so :)21:00
dansmith#topic release news21:01
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dansmith#link Pike release schedule:
dansmithI think we're shooting for an rc2 next week,21:01
dansmithwe have a bunch of things already applied to stable/pike for it21:01
dansmithanything about the release before we move on?21:02
dansmith#topic bugs21:02
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dansmithlooks like no critical bugs21:02
dansmithwe had several bugs around placement and one for ironic which have patches landed already which is cool21:02
dansmithI didn't count new untriaged bugs this week because, well, I'm not cool like mriedem21:03
dansmith#info pike-rc-potential bugs:
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dansmiththere's one on that list, but it seems like an overzealous warning.. I thought we squashed one of those, but I'll look at that one after this meeting21:04
dansmithgate status is not awesome, IMHO.. seems like a big spike in someone random failures lately21:04
dansmithespecially timeouts due to slower nodes21:04
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dansmithbut, things are moving along at least21:04
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dansmithany other comments on bugs, gate status, etc?21:04
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dansmithI'm glad you people want to get back to your quiet week as much as I do21:05
dansmith#topic reminders21:05
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dansmith#link Consider signing up for the Queens PTG which is the week of September 11 in Denver, CO, USA:
dansmith#link Pike PTG topics etherpad:
dansmith#info mriedem wanted to remind people to brush their teeth and make their bed or something21:06
dansmithoh clean your room, my bad21:06
* edleafe takes out the trash21:06
dansmithany other things needing reminding?21:06
* efried never makes his bed. Also never ties his shoes after taking them off.21:06
dansmiththen lettuce proceed21:07
dansmith#topic stable branch status21:07
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dansmith#link stable/ocata:,n,z21:07
dansmith#link stable/newton:,n,z21:07
dansmithI have approved a metric crapton of things in the last few days21:07
tonybthe gate why does it hate stable?21:07
dansmithbecause mriedem threatened bodily ham when he got back if I didn't21:07
efriedMm.  Bodily ham.21:07
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dansmithtonyb: is that a rhetorical question?21:08
dansmithI dunno what bodily ham is but I doubt I'd like it either21:08
tonybdansmith: strange he ask me nicely ;P21:08
dansmithtonyb: he likes you a lot more, unsurprisingly21:08
tonybdansmith: Yeah it is sorry.  so much rechecking :(21:08
tonybdansmith: LOL21:08
dansmithtonyb: yeah I noticed that myself21:08
dansmithany other real or rhetorical questions/comments about stable?21:08
dansmith#topic subteam lowlights21:09
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dansmithwhole big bag of nothing this week for the cells meeting21:09
dansmithedleafe: got any better for scheduler?21:09
dansmithI don't expect we have alex_xu or sdague around for api?21:10
dansmithI don't think there was a notifications meeting again this week and I expect it's too late for gibi21:10
dansmithand mriedem is the point for the cinder stuff, so I'm guess nothing there21:11
dansmithI guess there was nobody to insult with my "lowlights" comment then.. dang21:11
dansmithanything else here anyone can think of?21:11
dansmith#topic stuck reviews21:12
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dansmithI spy with my little eye... no stuck reviews21:12
dansmith#topic open discussion21:12
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dansmithwhat have you to discuss in an open nature, dear comrades?21:12
jangutter3rd party ci (or our attempt at one)21:13
dansmithfor $your_networking_thingy?21:13
jangutteryep, sorry, cut and pasting stuff into the buffer here...21:13
jangutterwe've got a basic single Jenkins job that kicks off a custom script: it starts up devstack and runs two tempest scenarios on the three VNIC types our mechanism driver supports.21:13
jangutterthis review's got an example of what it does:
jangutterany feedback is welcome, including curses.21:14
dansmithjangutter: it'd be nice if you could merge the subunits so we get one testr_results.html file21:15
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jangutterAt this moment, if you want to trigger it, comment on a patch with "check netronome-ci"21:15
dansmithjangutter: also your devstack run says it failed, but reported success, which is, like, usually not good and stuff21:15
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jangutterdansmith: yep, there's some funnies there that I have not triaged.21:15
dansmithokay well, that's my comment :)21:16
jangutterdansmith: thanks!21:16
dansmithanything else for open discussion?21:16
* edleafe listens to the crickets21:17
dansmithokay then, I'll put us out of our misery21:17
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efrieddansmith Thanks for hosting.21:17
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