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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 12 03:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-09-12_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| Namrata | Namrata | 03:00 |
| mkrai | o/ | 03:00 |
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| hongbin | thanks for joining the meeting Namrata mkrai | 03:01 |
| lakerzhou | lakerzhou | 03:01 |
| hongbin | thanks for joining lakerzhou | 03:02 |
| mkrai | Hi lakerzhou | 03:02 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: in ptg now? | 03:02 |
| lakerzhou | Hi Mkrai | 03:02 |
| hongbin | ok, let's get the meeting start | 03:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 03:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:02 | |
| hongbin | 1. Zun tempest plugin repository was created | 03:02 |
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| hongbin | #link https://github.com/openstack/zun-tempest-plugin | 03:03 |
| hongbin | this is part of the community goal for spliting out tempest plugin | 03:03 |
| lakerzhou | yes, I am in PTG, any topics that you want me to follow up, I can collect information for you | 03:03 |
| hongbin | we will move the tempest code from zun to zun-tempest-plugin | 03:03 |
| mkrai | is there a spec for this? | 03:03 |
| mkrai | Wanted to know why this decision was made | 03:03 |
| hongbin | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | this is the spec | 03:04 |
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| mkrai | hongbin: Thank you I will read it | 03:04 |
| hongbin | mkrai: ack | 03:05 |
| mkrai | hongbin: are you working on moving the code? | 03:05 |
| hongbin | mkrai: yes, i can work on that | 03:05 |
| mkrai | Ok thanks | 03:05 |
| hongbin | any other remark for this? | 03:05 |
| mkrai | No | 03:06 |
| hongbin | ok, next topic | 03:06 |
| hongbin | #topic Cinder integration (hongbin) | 03:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder integration (hongbin) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:06 | |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/direct-cinder-integration Direct Cinder integration | 03:06 |
| hongbin | i am working on this bp last week | 03:06 |
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| hongbin | got several patches merged, including the db model, objects and mount utility | 03:06 |
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| hongbin | other patches are under review | 03:07 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:bp/direct-cinder-integration | 03:07 |
| hongbin | above are the list of patches about this bp | 03:08 |
| hongbin | any questions for this topic? | 03:08 |
| mkrai | No | 03:08 |
| mkrai | I will continue to review | 03:08 |
| hongbin | mkrai: thanks | 03:08 |
| hongbin | #topic Introduce container composition (kevinz) | 03:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduce container composition (kevinz) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:09 | |
| hongbin | i believe kevin is on PTG right now | 03:09 |
| hongbin | i will skip this topic for this time | 03:09 |
| hongbin | #topic Add support for clear container (mkrai) | 03:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add support for clear container (mkrai) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:09 | |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/support-secure-container | 03:09 |
| hongbin | mkrai: ^^ | 03:09 |
| mkrai | Yes | 03:10 |
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| mkrai | I posted a patch to devstack-container-plugin | 03:10 |
| mkrai | That installs clear container and configure it as one of the runtime | 03:10 |
| hongbin | that would be cool | 03:10 |
| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499534/ | 03:10 |
| mkrai | Also few of the patches are close to merge | 03:11 |
| mkrai | After which we will have a basic clear container support in Zun | 03:11 |
| Namrata_ | mkrai great work | 03:11 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Could you please review the devstack plugin patch? | 03:11 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Namrata_ thanks | 03:12 |
| hongbin | mkrai: yes, i added it to my review queue | 03:12 |
| hongbin | will do that soon | 03:12 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Thanks | 03:12 |
| mkrai | I will continue to submit more patches this week which include adding a new config for supported runtimes | 03:12 |
| Namrata_ | I will also go through it I want to know how it works | 03:12 |
| hongbin | mkrai: good progress on this feature, thanks for your work on this. | 03:13 |
| mkrai | That's all from my side | 03:13 |
| hongbin | thanks mkrai | 03:13 |
| mkrai | Namrata_: sure. Let me know if you have any questions | 03:13 |
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| mkrai | hongbin: Thank you :) | 03:13 |
| Namrata_ | mkrai sure | 03:13 |
| hongbin | #topic NFV use cases (lakerzhou) | 03:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NFV use cases (lakerzhou) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:13 | |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: do you have any remark on this topic? | 03:13 |
| lakerzhou | Hongbin, thanks, can you give a quick update on coding part? | 03:14 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: sure | 03:14 |
| hongbin | for the coding part, there are two patches under review | 03:14 |
| lakerzhou | sorry, I am still behind, because sickness for the whole week | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500420/ | 03:15 |
| mkrai | lakerzhou: sorry to hear that, please take care | 03:15 |
| hongbin | this part is for the openstack/kuryr repo | 03:15 |
| hongbin | it is for introducing a driver to perform SR-IOV port binding | 03:15 |
| lakerzhou | thanks mkrai. | 03:15 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500436/ | 03:16 |
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| hongbin | this patch is for kuryr-libnetwork | 03:16 |
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| lakerzhou | hongbin, for testing, I have setup three-hysical-node devstack environment today. I am going to verify nova SR-IOV using the environment tomorrow. | 03:17 |
| lakerzhou | Once I confirm the environment is solid (at most two days), I will start zun testing | 03:18 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: sound good | 03:18 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: i deliver a guide for the setup | 03:18 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500436/6/doc/source/config-sriov.rst | 03:18 |
| lakerzhou | I will write the document when I am testing this and share it with the team. | 03:19 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: hope it will help you a bit | 03:19 |
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| lakerzhou | Hongbin, thanks for the link | 03:19 |
| hongbin | great, thanks for that | 03:19 |
| hongbin | ok, that is the updates for the kuryr part | 03:20 |
| lakerzhou | that is all from me | 03:20 |
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| hongbin | i believe shunli is working on a few patches in zun for the pci resource management | 03:20 |
| hongbin | that is all about this bp | 03:20 |
| hongbin | any questions? | 03:20 |
| lakerzhou | Is shunli's work ready for testing? | 03:21 |
| hongbin | he get the db model and objects patches ready | 03:21 |
| hongbin | still need some work on the scheduling and pci resource tracker | 03:21 |
| hongbin | i believe it is not ready for now | 03:21 |
| hongbin | but i will work closely with him for that | 03:22 |
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| lakerzhou | hongbin, thanks for the update, I will think about what we can test using the kuryr and available zun pieces | 03:22 |
| hongbin | lakerzhou: ack | 03:23 |
| hongbin | ok, move on to the next topic | 03:23 |
| hongbin | #topic Mutli-host problems (kiennt) | 03:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mutli-host problems (kiennt) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:23 | |
| hongbin | kiennt: there? | 03:23 |
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| hongbin | i think kiennt did a good job for setting up the multi node job | 03:24 |
| hongbin | i just saw the multi-node job is success | 03:24 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501651/ | 03:24 |
| mkrai | That's great :) | 03:25 |
| hongbin | yes | 03:25 |
| hongbin | amazing to see it pass | 03:25 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:25 | |
| mkrai | yes indeed :) | 03:25 |
| hongbin | any other topic to bring up? | 03:25 |
| mkrai | None from me | 03:26 |
| hongbin | i have a small one | 03:26 |
| hongbin | currently, our gate is not stable, it failed randomly | 03:26 |
| hongbin | i think this patch might fix it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502263/ | 03:26 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502263/ | 03:26 |
| hongbin | it would be great if we could land it soon | 03:27 |
| mkrai | sure I will review it | 03:27 |
| mkrai | now | 03:27 |
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| hongbin | mkrai: thanks | 03:27 |
| mkrai | sure | 03:27 |
| hongbin | that is all from me | 03:27 |
| hongbin | anyone else has a topic? | 03:27 |
| hongbin | Namrata: want to give a update about your planned work? | 03:28 |
| hongbin | Namrata: i believe you are working on the api version bp? | 03:29 |
| Namrata | I will start this week was buy with relocation | 03:29 |
| Namrata | will update you soon with the work | 03:29 |
| hongbin | ok | 03:29 |
| hongbin | Namrata: great to see your interest in this bp, look forward to reviewing your patch | 03:30 |
| Namrata | thanks hongbin for the help | 03:30 |
| Namrata | will work on that | 03:30 |
| hongbin | Namrata: np | 03:30 |
| hongbin | ok, all . thanks for joining today, see you next week | 03:30 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:30 | |
| Namrata | thanks all | 03:30 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 12 03:30:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-09-12-03.00.html | 03:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-09-12-03.00.txt | 03:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-09-12-03.00.log.html | 03:30 |
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| ruijie_ | #startmeeting senlin | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 12 13:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruijie_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: senlin)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:00 |
| ruijie_ | here is the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Agenda_.282017-09-12_1300_UTC.29 | 13:00 |
| ruijie_ | feel free to add items if needed :) | 13:00 |
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| Qiming | hi, I have added two items | 13:01 |
| ruijie_ | yes Qiming, noticed that :) | 13:01 |
| ruijie_ | let's wait for a while ? | 13:02 |
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| ruijie_ | well :) let's get started from the work items | 13:04 |
| ruijie_ | I just moved the work items to a new etherpad page, Qiming | 13:04 |
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| ruijie_ | hi Qiming, are there updates about the node adoption | 13:05 |
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| Qiming | so that | 13:06 |
| Qiming | no | 13:06 |
| ruijie_ | okay Qiming, I am going to finish the gc work this week. And will look back to the scaling improvement :) | 13:07 |
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| Qiming | ok | 13:08 |
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| ruijie_ | em, as I can see, there are no critical bugs left | 13:09 |
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| ruijie_ | next one is about the "api requests with extra field" | 13:11 |
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| ruijie_ | Qiming, your tern :) | 13:11 |
| Qiming | alright, got request this morning | 13:12 |
| ruijie_ | s/tern/turn | 13:12 |
| Qiming | it was on #senlin channel | 13:12 |
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| Qiming | someone asked if there are ways to intercept a scaling operation | 13:12 |
| Qiming | for example, before a cluster is scaled in, we invoke a hook | 13:13 |
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| Qiming | the user wanted to do something | 13:13 |
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| Qiming | then confirm the scale in operation if it is permitted | 13:13 |
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| ruijie_ | http://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/latest/userguide/lifecycle-hooks.html? | 13:14 |
| ruijie_ | it's about we can intercepting the scaling actions and then roll back ? | 13:15 |
| Qiming | it doesn't have to be roll back | 13:16 |
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| Qiming | just leave the users some options | 13:16 |
| Qiming | I can imagine a simple policy to do that | 13:16 |
| Qiming | the real challenge is about how can we differentiate the original request which needed to be intercepted and the resent one, which meant to be performed anyway | 13:17 |
| ruijie_ | like threetee said, send a signal to the VM to ask the app on it to shutdown, and after that the VM will send an notification so that we can really destroy the VM | 13:18 |
| Qiming | if it is only about a signal | 13:19 |
| Qiming | it can be done easily using a policy | 13:19 |
| Qiming | another similar request we go early is about scaling out | 13:19 |
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| Qiming | before scaling out, that user wants to be notified | 13:20 |
| Qiming | they need a management approval before the scale-out operation is performed | 13:20 |
| ruijie_ | yes Qiming, like a work order | 13:21 |
| Qiming | that led me to the thought about extra API parameter | 13:21 |
| Qiming | telling us where the request came from, or telling us whether it should skip a policy check | 13:21 |
| Qiming | for example, a request comes with an 'extra' field. | 13:22 |
| Qiming | if the scaling request comes from a metering/alarming service, that field would be empty, by default | 13:23 |
| Qiming | the policy can then process the request and redirect it somewhere, calling a hook, trigger a business process service or a workflow ... whatever | 13:23 |
| ruijie_ | yes Qiming, we can do that to ask for aprovement | 13:24 |
| Qiming | when that request is approved (maybe with some modifications to its parameters), the 'extra' field now has a field {'approved': true} | 13:24 |
| Qiming | the policy looks at the request again, and refrain from redirecting it, go ahead and execute it as usual | 13:25 |
| Qiming | the point is the second request has to be somehow different from the initial one | 13:25 |
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| Qiming | did I make a point? | 13:26 |
| ruijie_ | yes Qiming | 13:26 |
| ruijie_ | I thought we can do that before we create any actions? | 13:27 |
| ruijie_ | so that we don't need to care about how long this process will take or whether it will block out engine | 13:27 |
| Qiming | em ... don't think so | 13:27 |
| Qiming | policies are only checked when an action is about to be executed | 13:28 |
| Qiming | unless we explicitly add a new concept, e.g. hook | 13:28 |
| ruijie_ | yes, a watcher.. | 13:28 |
| Qiming | then we have to decide to what scope a hook can cover | 13:28 |
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| ruijie_ | hi XueFengLiu | 13:29 |
| XueFengLiu | hi,ruijie_ | 13:29 |
| XueFengLiu | hi, all | 13:30 |
| ruijie_ | we are just talking about adding extra fields to api request. http://docs.aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/latest/userguide/lifecycle-hooks.html? | 13:31 |
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| XueFengLiu | looks good. Let me check the meeting history | 13:33 |
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| Qiming | alright, next thing is about event notification documentation | 13:35 |
| Qiming | I have just realized that we don't have proper documentation for users | 13:36 |
| Qiming | Looks to me we only have developer docs | 13:36 |
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| ruijie_ | yes Qiming :) | 13:36 |
| Qiming | some of the text here are really targeting users rather than developers | 13:37 |
| Qiming | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/senlin/tree/doc/source/contributor/event_dispatcher.rst | 13:37 |
| Qiming | the overview section and the last section are both for users | 13:38 |
| ruijie_ | we need a user reference and one for developer guidelines perpose ? | 13:39 |
| Qiming | I think s | 13:39 |
| Qiming | so | 13:39 |
| Qiming | that is how the docs are organized today | 13:39 |
| XueFengLiu | Yes | 13:40 |
| Qiming | see here: https://docs.openstack.org/senlin/latest/ | 13:41 |
| Qiming | section 2-4 are for users, section 5 is for developers | 13:41 |
| Qiming | the community may have some new guidelines | 13:41 |
| XueFengLiu | Qiming | 13:42 |
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| Qiming | I'm just too tired to follow all those guidelines | 13:42 |
| XueFengLiu | Some new user may can't know which is for user which is for developer | 13:42 |
| Qiming | then they can read them all | 13:42 |
| Qiming | section 5 has a title, right? | 13:43 |
| Qiming | a user won't touch that section | 13:43 |
| Qiming | all developers are supposed to read them all, because they are supposed to start as a user | 13:44 |
| XueFengLiu | Yes | 13:44 |
| Qiming | okay, ruijie_ | 13:44 |
| XueFengLiu | From the guideline, some section title is the same | 13:44 |
| Qiming | I have got 3 other topics | 13:44 |
| ruijie_ | honestly, I didn't find the notification part on this page :) | 13:45 |
| Qiming | can I quickly dump them here? | 13:45 |
| Qiming | ruijie_, that is something we can improve | 13:45 |
| ruijie_ | sure Qiming | 13:45 |
| Qiming | 1. pls help review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500713/ | 13:46 |
| Qiming | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501548/ | 13:46 |
| Qiming | the developer pinged me asking why there are no reviews | 13:46 |
| ruijie_ | revieded +1, but did't got new patch yet :) | 13:46 |
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| Qiming | 2. as part of Queens community goal, we are about to separate tempest out | 13:47 |
| XueFengLiu | OK, will review | 13:47 |
| Qiming | I have created a repo on github.com, hopefully maintained all commit history | 13:47 |
| Qiming | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501548/ | 13:47 |
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| Qiming | sorry, wrong link | 13:48 |
| Qiming | https://github.com/tengqm/senlin-tempest-plugin | 13:48 |
| Qiming | when it is ready, we are supposed to propose a new repo for senlin project to host the tests | 13:48 |
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| XueFengLiu | OK | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | 3. there are things insane in the community, as always, please pay attention if you get cycles | 13:49 |
| Qiming | this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502216/ | 13:49 |
| Qiming | it is reinventing senlin inside tacker | 13:49 |
| Qiming | funny ... but no one can stop people doing that | 13:50 |
| Qiming | this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465782/ | 13:50 |
| Qiming | really pissed off | 13:50 |
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| Qiming | how could people be so arrogant? | 13:51 |
| Qiming | that's all from my side, ruijie_ | 13:51 |
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| Qiming | back to you | 13:52 |
| ruijie_ | so according to there understanding, we are manageing VMs and containers .. that is irresponsible | 13:52 |
| ruijie_ | okay Qiming, next one | 13:52 |
| ruijie_ | Queens Meetup :) | 13:52 |
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| ruijie_ | we can find a place to have a meetup to discuss our goals for Queens | 13:53 |
| Qiming | sure | 13:53 |
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| XueFengLiu | OK, got all. Will check all this points tomorrow.Qiming, ruijie_ | 13:53 |
| ruijie_ | or, since it is almost 10.01, we can choose 1. have a virtual meeting first, and then hold meetup in middle Oct 2. f2f directly :) | 13:54 |
| XueFengLiu | +1 | 13:54 |
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| Qiming | I'll be out of town during Oct holidays | 13:55 |
| Qiming | mid Oct sounds good to me | 13:55 |
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| Qiming | I was reading that as " Oct 2." | 13:56 |
| ruijie_ | my bad :) | 13:56 |
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| ruijie_ | okay Qiming, I am going to send a email to mailing list about the virtual meeting | 13:57 |
| Qiming | it's your call | 13:57 |
| ruijie_ | and we can discuss the detail about the meetup later | 13:57 |
| Qiming | ok | 13:57 |
| ruijie_ | any other topics to discuss :) | 13:57 |
| Qiming | I'm looking at this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502757/ | 13:58 |
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| Qiming | hoefully can figure out what went wrong | 13:59 |
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| ruijie_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502996/ | 13:59 |
| Qiming | ya | 13:59 |
| ruijie_ | timesout | 14:00 |
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| ruijie_ | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 12 14:00:26 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-09-12-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-09-12-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-09-12-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
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