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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 21 00:01:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi all. welcome back to congress meeting! | 00:02 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: hi | 00:02 |
| ekcs | list of topics are here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:02 |
| ekcs | feel free to add/edit/comment | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! | 00:02 |
| ekcs | ok let’s get started then! | 00:03 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG recap | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | We had a great PTG with people bringing use cases, cross project discussions, and overall congress direction. | 00:05 |
| ekcs | here’s a bullet points summary I sent out over ML: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ptg-queens | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | anything we want to clarify or follow up on? | 00:06 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: no | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | ok then let’s move along =) | 00:08 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: i thought policy library UI is not priority? | 00:08 |
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| ramineni_ | are we again targeting that feature? | 00:08 |
| ekcs | #topic policy lib UI | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | haha so I was revisiting the tasks and priorities today. I said over email I didn’t think policy lib UI is a great return on effort required. But today I realized I was conflating browse & activate GUI with full CRUD. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | After more thought I’m now of the opinion that browse and activate is a good return on effort but full CRUD is not. | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: do you have thoughts about that? | 00:12 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok | 00:13 |
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| ekcs | any opinions one way or another? | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: should be fie i think | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | fine** | 00:13 |
| ekcs | ok =p | 00:14 |
| ekcs | well lets come back to priorities later. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | #topic unofficial driver | 00:14 |
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| ekcs | this is something masahito and I discussed at the PTG, partly triggered by the dynamic driver loading discussion | 00:15 |
| ekcs | Here’s a BP: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/separate-unofficial-drivers | 00:15 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: yes , had a look at it | 00:16 |
| ekcs | basically the idea is to establish a lower-tested/supported tier of drivers, to clearly communicate which drivers are most supported. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: great. any thoughts? good idea? bad idea? potential problems? | 00:17 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: hmm, non-openstack ones make sense .. but the openstack ones , do we need to support if it is not tested | 00:18 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: i dont think any operator uses in production environment , if we keep as non-tested ones | 00:18 |
| ekcs | good question to consider. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | for instance, should we merge say designate driver to a lower tier, or not merge it at all. | 00:19 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: and there is quite good chance that they will be beroken in future releases, if not monitored in gate | 00:19 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: IMO , we should keep the tested ones,(production ready) | 00:20 |
| masahito | sorry, late. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | if merged the second tier, the more adventurous people trying/testing things out can easily enable and use it. but it can easily break in future. | 00:21 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: if we support that, there will be bunch of drivers always in unsupported list? or we should consider deprecation of some time? | 00:21 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: what if for openstack drivers we require at least the “update without error” test to be merged into “unofficial”. but comprehensive test (adding things that create content for tables then checking the contents) to be top level official drivers? | 00:22 |
| ekcs | hi masahito ! talking about whether to do unofficial drivers =) | 00:23 |
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| masahito | ekcs: got it. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: what do you think is the main disadvantage to having “unofficial” drivers that may or may not be broken? is to going to confuse users? generate too many bugs? lower the perception of quality for the overall project? | 00:24 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: 1. no one uses it , 2. increases maintainability, 3. not production ready | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: at some point we have to make them stable? or planning to keep them in unoffcial drivers | 00:26 |
| ramineni_ | ? | 00:26 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: advantages: i see your point, we can get more drivers into tree, but are they really useful, like that? | 00:26 |
| ekcs | the way I’m thinking about it is that it doesn’t hurt to include more in an “unofficial” dir as long as it is clear we don’t promise anything with respect to those. That way people trying out new use cases can experiment with them. | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: once we land them there, i dont think no one cares about making it stable, or make sure well tested | 00:28 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: mostly, new drivers will land there, not in supported ones | 00:28 |
| ekcs | and if we add better testing, we can move them to official. for example if some users find an unofficial driver is useful for their use case, then we&them can invest resources into making it official. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | but there is no promise and some may be forever unofficial. | 00:29 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: right I see that as the main disadvantage. by opening up that tier, we can end up crafting the incentives such that we end up getting fewer official drivers than we otherwise would. | 00:30 |
| ekcs | masahito: do you have any thoughts? | 00:30 |
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| masahito | I'm not sure people have concerns about drivers are official or not because all drivers are located in Congress repo. | 00:33 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: has a concern that by opening up a tier of unofficial drivers in tree, instead of insisting on proper tests before merging at all, we may basically create a situation where we never make new drivers official and well tested. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | so the end result is we have fewer well tested drivers. | 00:35 |
| ramineni_ | and they may break eventually , which will not be noticed | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: right. so the actual value of the unofficial drivers may be minimal if they all end up broken anyway. | 00:37 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: masahito: not quite sure, actually if this feature would be really useful or not, if some usecases, we can consider this, but with some guidelines, atleast , we have some useful ones, vncetre, benchmarking etc which are useful point for non-openstack ones to write their own drivers | 00:39 |
| ramineni_ | but for openstack ones, if we open up for veryone, i dont think anyone will care about writing tempest tests, at some point we should consider their maintainability | 00:40 |
| ekcs | so it seems like we all agree on this: the non-openstack drivers without CI should be moved to unofficial subdir. correct? | 00:41 |
| ramineni_ | if we think really useful to include we can consider may be | 00:41 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: right, i dont think we have hw to test them anyway | 00:41 |
| ramineni_ | on gate | 00:41 |
| ekcs | ok. | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | We're not sure about opening that up to openstack drivers without good integration tests because it may discourage good tests for drivers and end up in a bad situation. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | so why don’t we just move the non-openstack drivers we don’t have integration tests for. but not allow openstack drivers in there. | 00:43 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: sounds good to me | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | ok then. I’ll update the BP. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | let’s move on then. more comments welcome on the BP =) | 00:45 |
| ekcs | #topic QoS patch | 00:45 |
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| ekcs | I’m hoping we can make progress on the QoS patch because it is need by a partner. | 00:46 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/488992/ | 00:46 |
| patchbot | patch 488992 - congress - Add Qos translator in neutron datasource drive. | 00:46 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: i have one question, does QoS driver alone can exist witought creating neutron datasource, or is it dependent | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: it can exist independently. | 00:47 |
| ekcs | there is no dependency mechanism between congress datasources. | 00:47 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: because it queries neutron for ports , but the table diffrs a lot | 00:48 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: right. so here’s the story. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | that driver doesn’t actually want the ports table. it just wants the port to qos policy binding. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | but because of the way congress datasource driver framework works, there needs to be a parent table in order for the port to qos policy binding subtable to work. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | the choices are 1. add a new tranlation kind to datasource driver. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | 2. just include a dummy ports table. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | we figured 2 is ok because an extra table doesn’t hurt anyone. | 00:50 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok, ya, i think existing looks ok | 00:50 |
| ekcs | and the work needed to add new translation kind may not be justified because it’s not clear there are more cases that need it. | 00:51 |
| ramineni_ | if its independent , doesnt hurt, i thought , qos doesnt make sense if it neutron is not availble | 00:51 |
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| ramineni_ | i thought dependent | 00:52 |
| ramineni_ | ill take a look at patch again | 00:52 |
| ekcs | ah ok. thanks! | 00:52 |
| ekcs | ok let’s go back to queens priorities in the last few minutes. | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | #topic Queens priorities | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-task-priority | 00:53 |
| ekcs | here’s my attempt to prioritize for queens. | 00:53 |
| ekcs | any thoughts or comments about it? | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | we can continue to discuss it today and next week. | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | are there priorities I’m missing? | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: there is one wsgi one, pike goal, is it done | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | ? | 00:55 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: it’s not done yet. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | it’s included in the ‘unranked’ section because i’m not sure where to rank it. | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | ok :) | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | is it required? or can be ignored now | 00:55 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: ill take a look at it, and assign myself some features | 00:57 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: none of the TC goals are *required*, but prioritized. it’s not clear to me how much impact that goal has compared to the others. | 00:58 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | I think we want to get it done sometime soon-ish because at some point people will want to deploy congess that way and we don’t want to be not ready, but it doesn’t immediately impact users or devs right now. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | so I think between the TC goals it’s somewhat less immediate that tempest plugin which saves us work right away. | 00:59 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok, got it | 00:59 |
| ekcs | ok let’s end meeting. | 01:00 |
| ekcs | very helpful discussion. | 01:00 |
| ekcs | thank and more next week! | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
| ramineni_ | Thanks All. Bye | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 01:00:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-09-21-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-09-21-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-09-21-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
| masahito | bye | 01:01 |
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| eumel8 | I'm still not in time sync... | 07:00 |
| eumel8 | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:00 |
| openstack | eumel8: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 07:00 |
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| amotoki | #endmeeting | 07:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 07:01:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-09-21-02.39.html | 07:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-09-21-02.39.txt | 07:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-09-21-02.39.log.html | 07:01 |
| eumel8 | better | 07:01 |
| amotoki | IIRC, after one hour is over after startmeeting, anybody can send #endmeeting to end a meeting | 07:01 |
| amotoki | eumel8: ^ | 07:02 |
| eumel8 | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 21 07:02:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:02 |
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| eumel8 | good morning, first | 07:02 |
| -amotoki- lurks again | 07:02 | |
| jpich | Good morning! | 07:02 |
| ianychoi | hi | 07:02 |
| tono | hi | 07:02 |
| eumel8 | good morning, amotoki, jpich, ianychoi, tono | 07:03 |
| ianychoi | i conflict with another thing but I will try to see here | 07:03 |
| -amotoki- is trouble-shooting our cloud now | 07:03 | |
| eumel8 | who else for the I18n team meeting? | 07:04 |
| eumel8 | my only conclict is the missing breakfast | 07:04 |
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| jpich | haha | 07:05 |
| * jpich just had time to make tea | 07:05 | |
| jpich | weren't we talking about moving this meeting? | 07:05 |
| eumel8 | but not american style ;) | 07:05 |
| jpich | nope | 07:05 |
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| eumel8 | so, it seems anybody got save home after the ptg | 07:06 |
| jpich | sleepy & safe | 07:06 |
| eumel8 | sleepy only in daylight ;) | 07:06 |
| eumel8 | #topic: PTG Recap | 07:06 |
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| eumel8 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-ptg-queens-summary | 07:07 |
| eumel8 | jpich is not on the meeting attendee list for ptg - maybe too many partys... | 07:08 |
| jpich | Haha, I was only in at the one session at 11 on Monday morning | 07:09 |
| jpich | The bad student at the back | 07:09 |
| jpich | Cool parties though ;) | 07:09 |
| eumel8 | als I already mentioned: Petr gave for the Docs team and kindly for the I18n team a summary in email. | 07:10 |
| eumel8 | I concentrated more on the work of our own team and listed only related stuff for us | 07:11 |
| eumel8 | Docs team worked on a new mission statement, that was nice to see | 07:11 |
| eumel8 | due the fact that other project teams are more involved with documentation we had many contacts to such kind of teams | 07:12 |
| eumel8 | but no special questions for I18n | 07:12 |
| eumel8 | amotoki brought two topics on the table | 07:13 |
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| eumel8 | first thing (splitting po files) he will start a conversation with a spec or on the mailing list | 07:14 |
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| eumel8 | the second thing, and that would be nice, a language index on each doc site like in the I18n guide. | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/denver-i18n-PTG | 07:15 |
| jpich | ++ | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | there are some problems to discuss but I would support this feature because it's easier to read and has a better user experience | 07:18 |
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| jpich | It looks very nice | 07:18 |
| tono | ++ | 07:18 |
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| eumel8 | there is also an older proposal available: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/481850/ | 07:19 |
| patchbot | patch 481850 - openstack-infra/project-config - build-releasenotes: Add language index to all files | 07:19 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: so it would be nice if we can further work in this | 07:21 |
| eumel8 | next | 07:22 |
| eumel8 | project update I gave the RDO guys: #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yijPKREz37I | 07:23 |
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| eumel8 | unfortunatelly ianychoi wasn't there. hopefully I covered all topics of the last cycle and presented the team worthy | 07:24 |
| jpich | Nice! Will listen after the meeting | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | the Foundation will use this and I can provide also some slides later | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | next | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | the Policy in Code session which I partly attended. It's more or less a project triggered by the Keystone team and it seems we are not affected | 07:26 |
| eumel8 | next | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | Translation checksite | 07:27 |
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| eumel8 | at first we made another video with Andy and Rob as a OpenStack cross-project sucess story: #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-gqGTZ8ag | 07:28 |
| eumel8 | hopefully we got the right message | 07:29 |
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| eumel8 | and it's some advertising for each team (osa, horizon, i18n) | 07:29 |
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| eumel8 | then we worked 2 days for the final installation and we had some progress, indeed. | 07:30 |
| eumel8 | but at the end the result is still missing | 07:30 |
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| eumel8 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487936/ | 07:31 |
| patchbot | patch 487936 - openstack-infra/system-config - Installation of i18n-checksite.openstack.org | 07:31 |
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| eumel8 | the infra team was too busy and as I mentioned on Etherpad I wouldn't spend more effort | 07:32 |
| eumel8 | next | 07:32 |
| eumel8 | Zanata upgrade to version 4.3 | 07:32 |
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| eumel8 | this was not covered during ptg due the missing preparations | 07:33 |
| eumel8 | version 4.3.0 is still in developement but nearly the release | 07:34 |
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| eumel8 | i tested the installation last night and there are still some problems with openid | 07:34 |
| eumel8 | will investigate this with zanata guys before we go on the upgrade | 07:35 |
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| eumel8 | but I collected some information about update procedure for going on this topic | 07:35 |
| eumel8 | next | 07:36 |
| eumel8 | there is a new thing from the OpenStack Foundation what we can support | 07:36 |
| eumel8 | the new contributor portal: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/contributor-portal | 07:37 |
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| eumel8 | first we can promote working as a translator, second the portal will goe multi-lingual | 07:37 |
| eumel8 | this means, there will be some stuff to translate :) | 07:38 |
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| eumel8 | but I like the idea and there are also enough thankful people for our work on translation stuff :) | 07:39 |
| eumel8 | next | 07:40 |
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| eumel8 | Queens Prioritization and Roadmapping | 07:40 |
| eumel8 | this was also not covered on PTG because not enough people where there to discuss | 07:40 |
| amotoki | eumel8: from the next meeting, it looks better to use #topic xxxx | 07:42 |
| eumel8 | from the project teams were no new requirements so we can simple distinguish between translation of Horizon stuff and Doc translating | 07:42 |
| eumel8 | amotoki: thats true, but I'm near at the end now ;) | 07:43 |
| amotoki | or is it still part of PTG recap? | 07:43 |
| amotoki | yeah | 07:43 |
| amotoki | no problem | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | yes, only recap | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | we can discuss special topics in the next meetings, of course | 07:43 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: I tried to contact you for the merging stuff in Zanata. If I understood right we have to merge stable-zanata back to master branch and work further on this, isn't it? | 07:44 |
| amotoki | yes, that's same as my understanding too | 07:46 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yes! | 07:46 |
| eumel8 | ok, then I move in the right direction | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | :) | 07:47 |
| eumel8 | I prepared a new dashboard in zanata named Queens and promoted this together with doc dashboard on zanata frontpage | 07:48 |
| eumel8 | together with ower I18n guide and the user survey we have 4 workloads there | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I am not sure but we might need to check whether we need to translate user survey answers | 07:49 |
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| ianychoi | and also what we need to prepare for next user survey | 07:49 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: I know, it's still over. that's why is it the last topic on the list | 07:50 |
| ianychoi | And.. for I18n project updates, I am finding I18n members who can speak.. | 07:50 |
| jpich | About the Queens category on Zanata front page, tripleo-ui isn't a dashboard plugin but perhaps it's easier to classify like this. I think ironic-ui isn't a horizon plugin either. I don't know if the category name really matters | 07:50 |
| ianychoi | tono, will u go to Sydney? | 07:50 |
| tono | no | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | tono, ? didn't u apply travel support? | 07:51 |
| robcresswell | jpich: ironic-ui is a horizon plugin :) | 07:51 |
| tono | Not yet. | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | ironic-ui is a horizon plugin yes | 07:52 |
| jpich | robcresswell: Ooops, my bad then! I thought there was a standalone js project at some point, thank you | 07:52 |
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| robcresswell | There was, but it died | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | tono, oh that's too bad.. I thought that you would get travel support easily since you are the top translation contributor | 07:52 |
| jpich | Just ignore me then, thank you for snuggling tripleo-ui in there | 07:53 |
| jpich | robcresswell: :( | 07:53 |
| robcresswell | I think travel support is closed too, unfortunately :( | 07:53 |
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| ianychoi | robcresswell, right :( | 07:53 |
| eumel8 | jpich: "dashboard" is here in the sense of zanata dashboard which is a group of projects and branches | 07:53 |
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| jpich | eumel8: Haha, maybe I need more tea. Thanks, I'm sorry for the noise :) | 07:54 |
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| eumel8 | ;) | 07:54 |
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| eumel8 | so, next PTG will possibly held in Dublin (Ireland). Maybe it's helpful for some people... | 07:55 |
| jpich | \o/ \o/ \o/ | 07:55 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, your location? Dublin! | 07:55 |
| jpich | Yup :) | 07:55 |
| ianychoi | Yey :) | 07:56 |
| robcresswell | \o/ If its Dublin, I will likely be there too | 07:56 |
| eumel8 | don't worry about the city guide ;) | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | haha | 07:56 |
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| eumel8 | #topic no shows at Sydney Summit | 07:56 |
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| eumel8 | as I already mentioned, I gave the project update still in Denver I decided not to go to Sydney. | 07:57 |
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| eumel8 | the zanata guys will be there, also with a nice session but the travel will be really far away | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, i see and understand - don't worry too much | 07:58 |
| jpich | It is very far | 07:59 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: I contact the Foundation for the time open time slot and it seems okay to loose them. They will use the video from Denver | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | so, time is over | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, I think you would be busy but hope to also help Zanata team | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | #topic Open Discussion | 08:00 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, thank u! | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | more discussions in i18n channel | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | thx to all | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Thx all! | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | #endmeeting | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 08:00:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-09-21-07.02.html | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-09-21-07.02.txt | 08:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-09-21-07.02.log.html | 08:00 |
| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 21 08:00:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 08:00 |
| gmann | Who all here today? | 08:00 |
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| masayukig | o/ | 08:00 |
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| zhufl | o/ | 08:01 |
| tono | bye | 08:01 |
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| gmann | let's wait for couple of min for more people | 08:02 |
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| gmann | let's start | 08:04 |
| masayukig | ok | 08:04 |
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| gmann | #agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_September_21st_2017_.280800_UTC.29 | 08:04 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_September_21st_2017_.280800_UTC.29 | 08:04 |
| gmann | today agenda ^^ | 08:04 |
| gmann | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 08:05 |
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| gmann | seems like no AI from previous meeting | 08:05 |
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| gmann | #topic PTG Summary | 08:05 |
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| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122295.html | 08:05 |
| gmann | thanks andreaf for sending the summary | 08:05 |
| gmann | zhufl: you might have read this | 08:06 |
| gmann | also we have queens priority etherpad - #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-priorities | 08:06 |
| zhufl | yeah | 08:06 |
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| gmann | priority for queens can be found there | 08:07 |
| masayukig | I think any questions/suggestions are welcome :) | 08:07 |
| gmann | zhufl: we had 1 item for you about scenario manager refactoring if you are ok with that | 08:08 |
| gmann | any question about PTG | 08:09 |
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| zhufl | gmann: well, I'am not sure, I still remember one of Jordan's patch which takes long time not being able to merge | 08:09 |
| zhufl | gmann: do you remember the arguments about the refactory of scenario.manager? | 08:10 |
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| gmann | zhufl: ok, that might be prior to make copy of scenario manger on plugin side | 08:10 |
| gmann | zhufl: yes, that was because plugin were using it we could not break that. but to resolve that we copied scenario manger on each plugin side | 08:11 |
| gmann | hope all plugin has their own copy now. if so we can refactor scenario manager without issue | 08:11 |
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| gmann | zhufl: this ML - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115073.html | 08:12 |
| zhufl | gmann: oh, let me see | 08:13 |
| gmann | you can find about status of plugin side fix ion this - #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-manager-plugins | 08:13 |
| gmann | i think we are all good to refactor now. we did not find anyone doping that actually | 08:13 |
| gmann | zhufl: thanks. it will good help | 08:14 |
| gmann | zhufl: if you have any query, feel free to ping | 08:14 |
| gmann | let's move to next topic | 08:14 |
| gmann | #topic Forum Topics for Sydney Summit | 08:14 |
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| gmann | there is anotehr mail from andreaf about forum topic for Sydney | 08:15 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122297.html | 08:15 |
| gmann | tough he missed the qa in braces ands my filter did not work to get this mail under qa folder :) | 08:15 |
| gmann | anyway | 08:16 |
| gmann | like last time, we need to propose forum topic for QA and feel free to put your ideas in ethepad | 08:16 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-sydney-forum-topics | 08:16 |
| gmann | do not know about exact deadline but i think we have good amount of time | 08:17 |
| masayukig | heh, yeah, I'll take a look later | 08:17 |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks | 08:18 |
| zhufl | gmann: the deadline for what? | 08:18 |
| gmann | zhufl: there is deadline to submit forum topic from each project | 08:18 |
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| zhufl | gmann: oh, I thought the session topic, which should have been finished | 08:20 |
| gmann | #topic Gate Stability | 08:20 |
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| gmann | zhufl: yea sessions topics are done and schedule is also out | 08:20 |
| gmann | zhufl: these are forum topic each project can have and after submission topic will be selected by selection team | 08:21 |
| zhufl | gmann: oh, interesting | 08:21 |
| masayukig | zhufl: are you able to come to the summit this time? | 08:21 |
| gmann | those are more user developer interaction and gathering the feedback and requirement | 08:21 |
| gmann | its not USA :) so visa things should be fine | 08:22 |
| masayukig | I hope so... | 08:22 |
| gmann | tough i have apply by next week | 08:22 |
| gmann | *have to | 08:23 |
| zhufl | I don't know, we haven't started the discussion of who will go to summit:) | 08:23 |
| gmann | ok | 08:23 |
| gmann | back to Gate topic | 08:24 |
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| * masayukig nods | 08:24 | |
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| gmann | it is more stable side now a days | 08:24 |
| gmann | not much to discuss from my side | 08:24 |
| gmann | masayukig: zhufl you have anything specific to bring | 08:25 |
| zhufl | exclude scenario tests it looks fine | 08:25 |
| gmann | zhufl: scenario tests are not going good? | 08:25 |
| zhufl | sometimes | 08:26 |
| zhufl | they have more chance to fail | 08:26 |
| gmann | zhufl: did you observed the particular failure or it is random timeout | 08:27 |
| zhufl | gmann: more likely to be random | 08:27 |
| gmann | humm | 08:27 |
| masayukig | zhufl: hmm, if so, probably we should dig it more.. | 08:27 |
| gmann | afazekas had idea about bringing the all scenario tests back to one job | 08:28 |
| gmann | so if something already going bad, we should bring it up which should help him | 08:29 |
| zhufl | masayukig: gmann: oh, then I'll pay more attention to it from now on | 08:29 |
| gmann | zhufl: thanks that will help. | 08:30 |
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| gmann | zhufl: it will be good to bring particular failure and log bug and e-r query | 08:30 |
| masayukig | I actually subscribe this rss http://health.openstack.org/runs/key/project/openstack/tempest/recent/rss to see it | 08:30 |
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| masayukig | But I only get periodic job failures, so far | 08:31 |
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| gmann | masayukig: nice | 08:31 |
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| gmann | masayukig: can we see the failure log also | 08:32 |
| masayukig | gmann: yeah, we can see that from RSS | 08:33 |
| masayukig | The RSS links to the o-h and logs | 08:33 |
| gmann | masayukig: got it | 08:33 |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks | 08:33 |
| zhufl | masayukig: gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario002-multinode-oooq-puppet-nvFAILURE in 1h 58m 31s (non-voting) | 08:33 |
| zhufl | masayukig: can something like this be seen in the site? | 08:34 |
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| masayukig | zhufl: now, we only store gate data not check queue data, so, | 08:36 |
| masayukig | I don't think so. | 08:36 |
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| masayukig | gmann: Am I correct? | 08:36 |
| gmann | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/w0zAwBJY/ | 08:36 |
| * andreaf o/ | 08:36 | |
| gmann | zhufl ^^ | 08:37 |
| gmann | andreaf: hi | 08:37 |
| * masayukig is preparing a birthday cake for andreaf :) | 08:37 | |
| gmann | masayukig: yea no check pipeline as f now | 08:37 |
| zhufl | I just be kicked by the bad network:) | 08:37 |
| gmann | masayukig: oh, is it today? | 08:37 |
| gmann | zhufl: no issue, o-h does not have check jobs data | 08:38 |
| masayukig | gmann: Facebook said so :) | 08:38 |
| andreaf | masayukig: :) thanks! | 08:38 |
| zhufl | really? happy birthday! | 08:38 |
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| gmann | andreaf: happy birthday and 🎂 | 08:38 |
| andreaf | thank you ^_^ | 08:38 |
| gmann | masayukig: ^^ i found cake :) | 08:38 |
| andreaf | heh nice cake! | 08:38 |
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| masayukig | gmann: nice :) | 08:38 |
| zhufl | delicious:) | 08:39 |
| gmann | heh | 08:39 |
| masayukig | one more 🍰 | 08:39 |
| gmann | cool | 08:39 |
| andreaf | wow thank you folks :) | 08:39 |
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| gmann | 🍾🍻 | 08:39 |
| zhufl | gmann: what's this | 08:40 |
| gmann | ok, let's observe the failure and try to add e-r more and more | 08:40 |
| * andreaf feels like celebrating | 08:40 | |
| masayukig | gmann: +1 | 08:40 |
| gmann | andreaf: yea virtual celebration :) | 08:40 |
| gmann | zhufl: beer and champion it was :) | 08:41 |
| andreaf | zhufl: you should be able to get data on the overall pass/fail of the job from graphite | 08:41 |
| gmann | yea graphite can be seen for those | 08:41 |
| gmann | any more things on gate side? | 08:42 |
| zhufl | oh i c | 08:42 |
| andreaf | zhufl: something like this: https://goo.gl/ptPgEw | 08:42 |
| andreaf | we are not running the ironic job anymore - thanks gmann | 08:42 |
| andreaf | and we have the pike stable job as well | 08:43 |
| gmann | yea those are gone | 08:43 |
| gmann | +1 | 08:43 |
| zhufl | I can't visit google sites | 08:43 |
| gmann | andreaf: anything else you found to do more cleanup on job list side | 08:43 |
| masayukig | zhufl: | 08:43 |
| masayukig | http://graphite.openstack.org/render/?from=-200hours&height=500&until=now&width=800&bgcolor=ffffff&fgcolor=000000&yMax=100&yMin=0&vtitle=Failure%20Rate%20in%20Percent&title=Test%20failure%20rates%20over%20last%20200%20hours%20(12%20hour%20rolling%20average)&drawNullAsZero=true&&target=lineWidth(color(alias(movingAverage(asPercent(transformNull(stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.check.job.gate-tempest-dsvm- | 08:43 |
| masayukig | neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial.FAILURE),transformNull(sum(stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.check.job.gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial.%7BSUCCESS,FAILURE%7D))),%2712hours%27),%20%27gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial%20(check)%27),%27ff0000%27),1)&target=lineWidth(color(alias(movingAverage(asPercent(transformNull(stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.gate.job.gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xe | 08:43 |
| masayukig | nial.FAILURE),transformNull(sum(stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.gate.job.gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial.%7BSUCCESS,FAILURE%7D))),%2712hours%27),%20%27gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial%20(gate)%27),%27b00000%27),2) | 08:43 |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks | 08:43 |
| masayukig | wow ... | 08:44 |
| zhufl | masayukig:) | 08:44 |
| andreaf | masayukig: you'll need a URL shortener :) | 08:44 |
| gmann | let's move next | 08:45 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 08:45 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 08:45 |
| gmann | ^^ current open reviews | 08:45 |
| gmann | i will check comments on object storage client by tomorrow and update accordingly | 08:45 |
| gmann | Test.py as stable: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-test-module-stable | 08:45 |
| gmann | andreaf: ^^ | 08:45 |
| andreaf | gmann: the etherpad may be out of date sry | 08:46 |
| gmann | andreaf: ohk | 08:46 |
| andreaf | gmann: but what's left is https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:test_module_stable | 08:47 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:test_module_stable | 08:47 |
| andreaf | gmann: and your patches for the object storage client | 08:47 |
| gmann | andreaf: yea i will try to bring those upto date tomorrow | 08:47 |
| andreaf | it would be great to merge all those while we are in the beginning of the cycle | 08:47 |
| gmann | +1 | 08:48 |
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| andreaf | also on Tempest I started looking at tracking test resources but I don't have anything in reviewable state yet | 08:48 |
| andreaf | there was one topic we discussed at PTG scenario refactor | 08:48 |
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| andreaf | we hoped zhufl might be interested in that? | 08:49 |
| gmann | andreaf: yea we talked about it with zhufl | 08:49 |
| gmann | all plugins have copy now right | 08:49 |
| andreaf | oh great sorry I did not read the whole meeting :P | 08:50 |
| zhufl | I am just not very sure we can go smoothly:) | 08:50 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-manager-plugins | 08:50 |
| gmann | zhufl: will check the plugin if any pending and then we are good to go | 08:50 |
| andreaf | zhufl: it would be great if you could start working on a patch series on that | 08:51 |
| zhufl | gmann: heh wish so:) | 08:51 |
| gmann | Bug Triage: | 08:51 |
| zhufl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497760/ if we use api_microversion_fixture in setUp, we will not be able to create resources in resource_setup | 08:51 |
| patchbot | patch 497760 - tempest - Merge volume message list and show testcases | 08:51 |
| gmann | it think i should have remove this as we are not doing bug triage any more in queens as discussed in PTG | 08:51 |
| zhufl | gmann: still one question about microversion | 08:51 |
| gmann | zhufl: i remember masayukig talked about this and i forgot to review | 08:52 |
| gmann | zhufl: i will check it in detail and get back to you | 08:52 |
| zhufl | gmann: ok:) | 08:52 |
| andreaf | gmann: yeah we need to find a volunteer to drive bug triage and setup a different forum to discuss about bugs first though | 08:52 |
| gmann | andreaf: you will catch right person interested for bug traige | 08:52 |
| andreaf | gmann: I will try to find someone :) but if you have candidates as well let me know please | 08:53 |
| gmann | andreaf: sure. may be we can check with chandankumar if he is interested | 08:53 |
| andreaf | unless any of you gmann masayukig zhufl want to be the bug czar for queens | 08:53 |
| masayukig | andreaf: interesting | 08:54 |
| andreaf | yeah I wanted to ask him even though I think he already has a few things on his plate :) | 08:54 |
| gmann | ok | 08:55 |
| andreaf | masayukig: are you volunteering? | 08:55 |
| gmann | seems so :) | 08:55 |
| masayukig | andreaf: let me think | 08:55 |
| gmann | ok 5 min left | 08:55 |
| zhufl | that will be great:) | 08:55 |
| gmann | let's move | 08:55 |
| andreaf | sure let me know! | 08:55 |
| gmann | #topic Patrole | 08:55 |
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| gmann | anything on patrole side or we can skip this | 08:56 |
| gmann | multipolicy spec is merged now - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461140/ | 08:56 |
| patchbot | patch 461140 - qa-specs - RBAC testing multiple policies (MERGED) | 08:56 |
| andreaf | yay +1 | 08:57 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 08:57 |
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| gmann | any critical reviews | 08:57 |
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| gmann | andreaf: i reviewed the series for class level cleanup and looks good | 08:57 |
| zhufl | andreaf: I really likes them | 08:57 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 08:58 |
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| andreaf | gmann, zhufl: cool thanks I need to do that for the rest of the tests in tempest - help is welcome of course | 08:58 |
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| gmann | anything else to discuss | 08:58 |
| gmann | andreaf: sure | 08:58 |
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| masayukig | zhufl: andreaf: gmann: yeah, I like them, I missed to +2, though. | 08:58 |
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| gmann | andreaf: i have 1 new mentee interested in QA | 08:59 |
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| gmann | i will check with him and will be good to start these things | 08:59 |
| andreaf | that's great | 08:59 |
| masayukig | gmann: nice | 08:59 |
| andreaf | ok nice | 08:59 |
| gmann | time up now | 08:59 |
| gmann | thanks all for joining | 08:59 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 09:00:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-09-21-08.00.html | 09:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-09-21-08.00.txt | 09:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 21 14:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:00 |
| tssurya | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| efried | o/ | 14:00 |
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| tssurya | Hi Everyone, I just want to quickly introduce myself here. I am Surya, a newbie to the openstack developer community. I joined the cloud team at CERN recently with Belmiro as my supervisor, mainly for upstream contributions to nova cell_v2. | 14:00 |
| edleafe | Welcome, tssurya! | 14:01 |
| mriedem | welcome | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| mriedem | let's get started | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| mriedem | #link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #info Re-propose and review specs for Queens | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #info queens-1 milestone is Oct 19 | 14:02 |
| * bauzas waves | 14:02 | |
| mriedem | yikes, so about a month | 14:02 |
| mriedem | to q-1 | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i think we should at least have dansmith's efficient multi-cell instance listing changes, alternative hosts, and efried's ksa adapter endpoint discovery stuff all merged by then | 14:03 |
| dansmith | gotta have migration uuid by then too, IMHO | 14:03 |
| mriedem | oh right yeah. really the instance listing thing should be done in the next week or two | 14:03 |
| dansmith | or.. done this week :) | 14:03 |
| mriedem | we told the neutron team we'd shoot for q-1 for nested resource providers, which was priority #3 for placement, so that's going to be tight | 14:04 |
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| bauzas | I'm on the review side | 14:04 |
| dansmith | especially with jay shoveling out his yard | 14:04 |
| bauzas | for nested RPS | 14:04 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 37 targeted, 10 approved, 1 complete | 14:05 |
| edleafe | I'll be reviewing those, too | 14:05 |
| mriedem | we can get into the nitty gritty in a bit | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| mriedem | nothing critical | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #info 4 new untriaged bugs (no change from last week) | 14:06 |
| bauzas | I was unable to triage 3 of those | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i triaged one last night where the person was definitely confused about devstack default mode not doing reschedules or up-calls at all | 14:06 |
| bauzas | so second eyes would be appreciated | 14:06 |
| mriedem | so we probably have an opportunity to put something into devstack docs to talk about cells v2 and link to our cells v2 layout docs | 14:06 |
| mriedem | if someone wants that | 14:06 |
| dansmith | or hurry up and get it fixed | 14:07 |
| mriedem | for reschedules sure, | 14:07 |
| mriedem | the upcall thing not so much | 14:07 |
| mriedem | tihs was the server group affinty check | 14:07 |
| mriedem | but moving on | 14:07 |
| dansmith | ah | 14:08 |
| mriedem | gate status, besides the live migration qemu thing from the other day, is ok | 14:08 |
| mriedem | 3rd party CI: a few were broken last night but a fix is going through now | 14:08 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
| mriedem | i don't have anything to remind anyone about | 14:08 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| mriedem | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:09 |
| mriedem | #link Pike 16.0.1 release request https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505796/ | 14:09 |
| patchbot | patch 505796 - releases - pike: release nova 16.0.1 | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | thanks to tonyb and lyarwood for the stable pike review push last week at the ptg | 14:09 |
| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:09 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | those are doing ok for now | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:10 | |
| mriedem | dansmith: cells v2 | 14:10 |
| dansmith | ohai | 14:10 |
| dansmith | so, we ended up having a hangout meeting so we could go over some of the finer points of my efficient instance list series, | 14:11 |
| dansmith | which I think was pretty successful | 14:11 |
| dansmith | also got some good review from mr "i-will-find-any-holes" gibi last night | 14:11 |
| mriedem | #link efficient multi-cell instance listing series starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504983/ | 14:11 |
| patchbot | patch 504983 - nova - Add base implementation for efficient cross-cell i... | 14:11 |
| gibi | :) | 14:11 |
| dansmith | we also talked about progress on the console proxy patch series | 14:11 |
| dansmith | that's about it.. just steaming ahead. | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | tssurya: since you're new, just fyi that there is a weekly cells v2 meeting | 14:12 |
| mriedem | tssurya: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Nova_Cellsv2_Meeting | 14:12 |
| mriedem | tssurya: since cern is a big cells v1 shop, it would be great to get any feedback on what cern is doing to transition to cells v2 | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | tssurya: because we plan on dropping support for cells v1 in the next release (rocky) | 14:13 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler highlights | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Meeting was sparsely attended on Monday, so no new directions since PTG | 14:14 |
| edleafe | Starting to work on priorities set at PTG | 14:14 |
| edleafe | Return alternate host spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504275/ | 14:14 |
| patchbot | patch 504275 - nova-specs - Return Alternate Hosts | 14:14 |
| edleafe | Nested RP spec re-proposed: https://review.openstack.org/505209/ | 14:14 |
| patchbot | patch 505209 - nova-specs - Re-propose nested resource providers spec | 14:14 |
| edleafe | Work not yet re-started on nested RP (thanks, Irma!) | 14:14 |
| edleafe | Lots of placement objects successfully unregistered | 14:14 |
| edleafe | That's it. | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | and the migration uuid stuff is taking a back seat until we land the efficient cross cell listing stuff | 14:14 |
| mriedem | but yeah we should focus on alternative hosts | 14:15 |
| mriedem | thanks ed | 14:15 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: API meeting highlights? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | anyone at the api meeting? | 14:16 |
| mriedem | was there an api meeting? | 14:16 |
| mriedem | ok moving on | 14:16 |
| mriedem | gibi: was there a notification meeting? | 14:16 |
| gibi | nope | 14:16 |
| mriedem | ok priority is on the bdm series? | 14:16 |
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| gibi | yes, let's get close that | 14:16 |
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| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1718226+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:17 |
| gibi | and besides that we only have the transformation work | 14:17 |
| mriedem | thanks, beat me to it | 14:17 |
| gibi | sure | 14:17 |
| mriedem | cinder | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | we have a meeting later today | 14:17 |
| mriedem | they are working on the new microversion to add the shared connection flag to the attachments model i think | 14:18 |
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| tssurya | mriedem : yes thanks for the info, I was about to attend the cell_v2 meeting yesterday, but it did not happen. | 14:18 |
| mriedem | tssurya: yeah, sorry, it is usually just me, dansmith and melwitt, so we got on a hangout to talk through some code changes | 14:18 |
| dansmith | tssurya: sorry about that, we decided at the last minute to have it in hangouts | 14:19 |
| dansmith | tssurya: definitely a good idea to just hang out in #openstack-nova to see those kinds of changes | 14:19 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: but I can try to remember to ping you next time if that happens | 14:19 |
| mriedem | tssurya: btw, what timezone are you in? | 14:19 |
| tssurya | mriedem : UTC +1 | 14:19 |
| tssurya | dansmith : a ping would be great! | 14:20 |
| dansmith | tssurya: but please do hang out in the nova channel, | 14:20 |
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| dansmith | tssurya: most of the discussion will happen there and not in meetings :) | 14:20 |
| dansmith | tssurya: anyway, let's let the meeting proceed and we can chat in -nova after if you like | 14:20 |
| tssurya | dansmith : good to know, will start hanging out there | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | ok so back to the cinder stuff, | 14:21 |
| mriedem | this is a new change since the ptg on the cinder side https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504467/ | 14:21 |
| patchbot | patch 504467 - cinder - Check for outstanding attachments during reserve | 14:21 |
| * jaypipes just ran nested patch set tests... need to fix a bunch of stuff | 14:21 | |
| mriedem | i think that's to address the window when we swap attachments and want to keep the volume reserved | 14:21 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: fyi ^ | 14:21 |
| mriedem | i don't see any changes or specs for a new microversion on the cinder side for shared storage connections modeling, so will bring that up in the meeting later today | 14:22 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda. does anyone have something they need to bring up here? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ok moving on | 14:22 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda, but i have one small thing | 14:22 |
| mriedem | we didn't talk about spec freeze dates at the ptg, but i'm assuming people are ok with q-1 for spec freeze | 14:23 |
| mriedem | that's what we've done the last 2 releases | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | seems reasonable, I was hoping to do some spec reviews soon, and get the ironic traits stuff up for review | 14:23 |
| mriedem | ok that's that then | 14:24 |
| mriedem | anything else today? | 14:24 |
| bauzas | the thing is, something depending on some design that is not firm by before m-1 has litterally no chances to be merged for Queens | 14:24 |
| bauzas | so yeah | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | yup, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | ok let's call it a meeting then, thanks everyone | 14:25 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 21 14:25:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-09-21-14.00.html | 14:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-09-21-14.00.txt | 14:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-09-21-14.00.log.html | 14:25 |
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