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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Sep 29 15:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Morning lbragstad. | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | lbragstad: Any snow up there yet? :D | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | smcginnis: not yet! | 15:01 |
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| ttx | ohai | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Settled back home ttx? | 15:01 |
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| ttx | yes yes | 15:02 |
| fungi | i'm here, but not here | 15:02 |
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| smcginnis | fungi: You've got more important things to focus on at the moment, I'm sure. | 15:02 |
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| dims | o/ | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | Hey dims. OK, at least a few of us here. Guess I can get going. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | Meeting agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | We're at R-22. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | #topic Fixing ACLs | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fixing ACLs (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:03 | |
| smcginnis | ttx: I see it as a task. Want to mention anything here? | 15:04 |
| ttx | yes | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507924/1 TripleO stable:follows-policy tag removal | 15:05 |
| patchbot | patch 507924 - governance - Remove stable:follows-policy tag from TripleO | 15:05 |
| ttx | The reason why we wanted to align groups and ACLs there was that they followed stable-policy | 15:05 |
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| ttx | However there are signs that they might not want to align with stable-policy | 15:05 |
| ttx | OR that the tag doesn't mean much when applied to them | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | It does seem more applicable to service projects. | 15:06 |
| ttx | TripleO asked to drop it the tag, and I'm wondering if Kolla should not do the same really | 15:06 |
| ttx | As an aggregator for other functionality, deployments projects are not that good of a fit | 15:06 |
| ttx | Like look up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506944/1 | 15:07 |
| patchbot | patch 506944 - kolla (stable/pike) - Bump OpenStack service version (MERGED) | 15:07 |
| ttx | That's a Kolla stable patch | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | Doesn't look like inc0 is around. Would be good to raise that to him. | 15:07 |
| ttx | bumping stable versions for included projects | 15:07 |
| ttx | Some of those do not follow stable policy though | 15:07 |
| ttx | so what does stable-policy mean for Kolla ? That there will be no new feature in Kolla itself ? | 15:07 |
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| ttx | I think it's not a great match basically | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | I agree. | 15:08 |
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| ttx | And with the bucketing coming up I think it would be appropriate to use that bucketing to apply slightly different rules to stuff | 15:08 |
| ttx | For example, we have cycle-trailing | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | I think tonyb was going to try to have a discussion at the forum about how to handle these, IIRC. | 15:08 |
| fungi | from a governance perspective, maybe the stable team wants to define a deployment project policy and we can have a separate tag for that so they don't feel left out | 15:08 |
| ttx | It really only applies to lifecycle/deployments projects really | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | fungi: That's kind of how I'm leaning at this point. | 15:09 |
| ttx | right. Anyway, in the mean time, it might not be the best moment overall to change teams or ACLs | 15:09 |
| fungi | at least i recall kolla's push for adding the stable policy tag was so they could be seen as more like other openstack projects | 15:09 |
| ttx | yes | 15:10 |
| ttx | So I wanted to raise it in meeting to see what you thought about it | 15:10 |
| ttx | no immediate action really | 15:10 |
| ttx | more of a good excuse to stall on my action | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, good to raise awareness on that. | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | I agree, not much point in worrying about ACLs until it's sorted. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic Current status | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:11 | |
| ttx | but since we'll define various buckets for openstack projects to fit in, we can certainly have slightly different rules for each. like allowing deployment projects to release after release | 15:11 |
| ttx | when it was all one big box it was harder to say that | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Greater than the two week cycle-trailing. | 15:12 |
| ttx | anyway that's all I had | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | ttx: How's the bucketing going? Any updates since Denver? | 15:12 |
| ttx | we had some good feedback that i'd like to integrate. Couldn't sync with lsell this week due to travel | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Cool. I like the direction it was going. I think that could be useful. | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | fungi: Want to say anything about zuulv3? Feel free to say no. :) | 15:15 |
| fungi | it's here | 15:16 |
| fungi | the future is now? | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Will the world be unbroken any time soon. :] | 15:16 |
| fungi | it's getting incrementally unbroken, so i have hopes things will be mostly stable going into the weekend | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Great. I'm sure the team would be happy if they can enjoy their weekend. | 15:17 |
| fungi | the hang in running jobs today was fallout from nodepool filling up its disk and freaking out zookeeper | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Darn storage. | 15:17 |
| fungi | which resulted in an unhandled deadlock in zuul. patch is in the process of being merged now and zuul will be restarted shortly for that | 15:17 |
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| fungi | i believe we're going to attempt to reenqueue everything zuul currently has in flight so hopefully rechecking won't be needed | 15:18 |
| fungi | but... we've not actually tried a mass reenqueue after restart with v3 yet, so fingers crossed | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Cool, will be good to see things moving again. Thanks for the update. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Anyone else have anything to bring up? | 15:19 |
| fungi | also mordred is sending (has now sent?) an update to the -dev ml with a breakdown of teh current situation as far as job stability is concerned, with links to faqs in progress and tips/tricks | 15:19 |
| * lbragstad goes to find that note | 15:19 | |
| smcginnis | Oh good. | 15:19 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122886.html Update on Zuul v3 Migration - and what to do about issues | 15:20 |
| fungi | lbragstad: ^ | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | fungi: thanks! | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else for today's meeting? | 15:21 |
| fungi | nothing from me | 15:22 |
| ttx | nope | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | OK, guess that's it. Hopefully a little more going next week. Getting close to Q-1. | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone. Have a good weekend. | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Sep 29 15:23:32 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-09-29-15.00.html | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-09-29-15.00.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-09-29-15.00.log.html | 15:23 |
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