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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 07:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 14 07:58:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:58 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 07:58 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 07:58 |
| gmann | who all here today | 07:58 |
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| * gmann hoping people are not on Christmas vacation | 08:00 | |
| gmann | let's wait for another 5 min | 08:01 |
| andreaf | o/ | 08:01 |
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| gmann | andreaf: hi | 08:01 |
| andreaf | hi good morning | 08:01 |
| gmann | morning | 08:01 |
| felipemonteiro_ | o/ | 08:01 |
| andreaf | gmann: thanks for following up on the cinder v3 stuff, I'll try to review that later as well | 08:02 |
| gmann | felipemonteiro_: hi | 08:02 |
| gmann | andreaf: thanks, i will push devstack patch also meanwhile. | 08:02 |
| gmann | let's start the meeting | 08:02 |
| gmann | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous Meeting Action review (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:03 | |
| gmann | no AI from last meeting | 08:03 |
| gmann | #topic Office Hours Summary | 08:03 |
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| gmann | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/office_hours/2017/office_hours.2017-12-07-09.00.html | 08:03 |
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| gmann | we did around 10 bug triage | 08:03 |
| gmann | we have 8 new bugs in current situation | 08:04 |
| gmann | we have 7 high importance bugs seems and most of them triaged | 08:04 |
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| gmann | let's discuss those in next office hour in case they are just stuck somewhere due to review/feedback etc | 08:05 |
| gmann | anything else on office hour thing? | 08:05 |
| andreaf | does folks feel they are useful? | 08:05 |
| andreaf | I'm happy with them so far | 08:06 |
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| gmann | yea me too | 08:06 |
| andreaf | but I wonder if we should keep it as is, or make it weekly | 08:06 |
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| gmann | and i am looking for extending it to more than just bug triage | 08:07 |
| andreaf | and replace the meeting eventually | 08:07 |
| andreaf | yeah that's what I was thinking | 08:07 |
| andreaf | but at the end it takes the full hour just to do some bug triage | 08:07 |
| gmann | andreaf: we can do that but let's make it more broad so that people gets used to discuss more things there | 08:07 |
| gmann | after that we can decide on weekly basis | 08:08 |
| chandankumar | gmann: andreaf \o/ | 08:08 |
| andreaf | gmann: well in principle office hours are open already for people to join in and discuss about anything they might want to discuss | 08:08 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: o/ | 08:08 |
| gmann | yea | 08:09 |
| chandankumar | weekly makes sense | 08:09 |
| chandankumar | but start from new year | 08:09 |
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| gmann | let's see for few more months or at least till queens to replace meeting | 08:09 |
| gmann | andreaf: how about alternate TZ office hour ? did you decided on that? | 08:10 |
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| andreaf | gmann: heh that would replace the current meeting basically | 08:11 |
| andreaf | gmann: I think it would make sense since there's not much attendance to meetings anyways | 08:11 |
| gmann | i feel office hour is good in that TZ too in case people want to join and discuss | 08:11 |
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| gmann | at end we just replace both meeting with office hour with same time as meeting used to be | 08:12 |
| andreaf | gmann: but I guess it's only good if people attends :) | 08:12 |
| andreaf | if not replacing meeting for office hours does not necessarily help :) | 08:12 |
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| gmann | yea so we can just start and finish in case no attendee as it is on qa channel only | 08:13 |
| chandankumar | keep the meeting as it is and make the office hour weekly | 08:13 |
| felipemonteiro__ | office hours is 9 utc? | 08:13 |
| gmann | chandankumar: than its too much time on meetings :) | 08:13 |
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| mguiney | so... as a huge huge noob | 08:13 |
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| gmann | andreaf: i mean we gradually replace meeting only and at end only office hours in both TZ | 08:13 |
| mguiney | out of curiosity, what is the sort of thing one would bring to office hours for discussion | 08:13 |
| gmann | mguiney: yea :) | 08:14 |
| gmann | mguiney: anything people want to dicsuss, bugs, fatures, help, feedback etc | 08:14 |
| mguiney | because that's my main hesitation on that front- a sort of "i dont even know what do" | 08:14 |
| * mguiney nods | 08:14 | |
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| mguiney | cool. thank you for the clarification | 08:14 |
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| gmann | mguiney: it is kind of open things to discuss anything on need basis and its on qa channel to get most of the qa people there | 08:15 |
| * mguiney nods | 08:16 | |
| mguiney | ok, thank you :) | 08:16 |
| andreaf | my idea is that with office hours being more informal (no fixed agenda) it may feel more open / welcome for people to pop in and ask questions / help if they want | 08:16 |
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| gmann | yea. +1 | 08:16 |
| gmann | there will not be any agenda on that | 08:16 |
| andreaf | that's something people can do at any time in this channel anyways, but during office hours we guarantee that some cores will be in | 08:16 |
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| mguiney | makes sense. would it be a good place for people to pop up if they were looking to dip a toe in a little more, so to speak, or would that be better suited to another... platform? venue? | 08:17 |
| mguiney | (i dont quite know the correct wording) | 08:17 |
| gmann | andreaf i was thinking to change time of current office hour to 8 UTC. it is little late in office sometime | 08:17 |
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| gmann | andreaf: but i am favor of having office hour in both TZ | 08:18 |
| andreaf | mguiney: yeah that would be fine for a good place to get started | 08:19 |
| * mguiney nods | 08:19 | |
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| mguiney | cool. again, sorry to ask, just didn't know | 08:19 |
| andreaf | gmann: uhm earlier than 8 UTC I'm definitely not going to make it :P | 08:19 |
| gmann | andreaf: yea it is little early for you | 08:20 |
| chandankumar | 8 AM na ? | 08:20 |
| andreaf | gmann: but if you masayukig and zhufl are around it should be fine | 08:20 |
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| gmann | andreaf: ok | 08:20 |
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| gmann | andreaf: ok, let's make it 8 UTC. | 08:21 |
| gmann | let's move next | 08:21 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 08:21 |
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| gmann | 1 things i want to bring about cinder testing | 08:22 |
| gmann | we have 2 approach here to achieve the v3 API testing as default in gate | 08:22 |
| andreaf | +1 that's pretty urgent | 08:22 |
| gmann | 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:disable_volv2+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 08:22 |
| gmann | 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:volume-default-testing-v3+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 08:22 |
| gmann | 1st from smcginnis and 2nd one i just pushed today | 08:23 |
| gmann | on second one, i need to push devstack patch and project-config patch to make v2 job | 08:23 |
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| gmann | feedback are welcome on those | 08:23 |
| andreaf | gmann: yeah I will try to review them today | 08:24 |
| gmann | v2 API is going to be removed from cinder and v3 will be the current one | 08:24 |
| gmann | andreaf: thanks | 08:24 |
| andreaf | we need to switch main API testing to v3 as soon as possible | 08:24 |
| gmann | yea +1 | 08:24 |
| andreaf | on master at least | 08:24 |
| chandankumar | gmann: i am not sure this also needs to be changed https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/cmd/verify_tempest_config.py#L241 | 08:25 |
| gmann | my idea is to do like same way we do for compute | 08:25 |
| chandankumar | using v3 to get extension list | 08:25 |
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| gmann | chandankumar: yea we will cleanup those, first we get the agreed direction | 08:25 |
| chandankumar | gmann: thanks :-) | 08:26 |
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| * gmann hope andreaf does not notice lib interface change in 2nd approach which are just version change but backward incompatible | 08:27 | |
| * andreaf will definitely not notice now :D | 08:27 | |
| gmann | anyways i will make that backward compatible if we agree on direction | 08:27 |
| gmann | :) | 08:27 |
| gmann | let's move next | 08:28 |
| gmann | Zuul V3 patches | 08:28 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:zuulv3-tempest | 08:28 |
| gmann | ^^ all these are merged | 08:28 |
| gmann | andreaf: your turn, you are doing lot of work around that | 08:28 |
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| andreaf | yeah well not much left on tempest though I have a patch series in devstack | 08:29 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:test_matrix_role | 08:30 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-dev/devstack+branch:master+topic:get_devstack_logs | 08:30 |
| gmann | thanks | 08:30 |
| andreaf | What I want to achieve here is feature parity between new style "dsvm" jobs and legacy one | 08:30 |
| andreaf | so we can then switch over | 08:30 |
| gmann | 1 question, we will keep general tempest job on project config side or we need to move to tempest ? | 08:30 |
| andreaf | I will be on tempest side I think | 08:31 |
| andreaf | that's what I'd like to see at least | 08:31 |
| andreaf | unless there is any specific concern with folks to maintain that | 08:31 |
| gmann | yea, i was hoping that | 08:31 |
| gmann | but at least many of basic can be, other like ceph etc can be on ceph repo side | 08:32 |
| andreaf | so in terms of single node job the things left to achieve parity now are mostly in the area of missing log files and cleanup of console log | 08:32 |
| gmann | k | 08:33 |
| gmann | and conf files etc also | 08:33 |
| andreaf | but there are two other areas which need attention still | 08:33 |
| andreaf | one is multinode which I'm working on with jeblair, since in multinode case we need to be able to set different configs on different nodes | 08:33 |
| andreaf | for the list of base services that's partly handled by the test matrix | 08:34 |
| andreaf | but there's more to it | 08:34 |
| andreaf | the logic is currently in d-g - basically in there we say now if node is subnode then... | 08:34 |
| andreaf | but using ansible and having all nodes in the inventory it would make sense to have something like host/group vars to control node specific config / behaviour | 08:35 |
| andreaf | another big piece which is missing once this is done is support for grenade in zuulv3 native jobs | 08:35 |
| andreaf | I haven't even started to look into that tbh, so if anyone wants to do so it would be nice :) | 08:36 |
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| andreaf | another thing that is missing which is the reproducer.sh script which I think is a very handy thing to have but that's something for the infra team really | 08:37 |
| andreaf | on the zuulv3 side mordred has been working on this series | 08:38 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-dev/devstack+branch:master+topic:devstack-functional functional tests | 08:38 |
| andreaf | which puts some base functional jobs for libraries into devstack | 08:38 |
| andreaf | since they are used by several parties and there is no better place to host them :) | 08:39 |
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| gmann | yea, devastack become better place | 08:39 |
| gmann | thanks, andreaf i will try to catch the series but have to travel to india office immediately till new year | 08:40 |
| andreaf | ok I think I have been rumbling long enough on this :) | 08:40 |
| gmann | no, good information on those ongoing things | 08:41 |
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| gmann | thanks for all your dedicated work on this | 08:42 |
| gmann | anything else on this | 08:42 |
| andreaf | not from me | 08:42 |
| gmann | k, let's move next | 08:42 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 08:43 |
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| gmann | any other critical reviews to get in on priority | 08:43 |
| chandankumar | gmann: andreaf https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524176/ i am not sure what else i need to improve to make it working | 08:43 |
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| gmann | chandankumar: what is issue in that, sorry i did not follow on that much | 08:45 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: that does not the POST_FAILURE issue | 08:45 |
| chandankumar | gmann: andreaf one is post failure issue | 08:45 |
| andreaf | chandankumar, gmann: the job uses now the base tox job, which at the end of the run looks for test results | 08:46 |
| chandankumar | in this patch i have fixed removing installed packages after sanity run | 08:46 |
| andreaf | it finds a .testrepository folder, so it tries to extract test results from it but no test runs so it fails | 08:46 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: yeah I will review it, it's a nice improvement | 08:47 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: but we really need to get the POST_FAILURE solved | 08:47 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: i am not sure how to fixed that part and also once sanity check passes for a project it is not getting appended there | 08:48 |
| chandankumar | there i also need help | 08:49 |
| chandankumar | failed one is working fine | 08:49 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: I'm looking at the log but it's very long :D hard to manage | 08:49 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: perhaps we should split logs into individual plugin ones | 08:50 |
| gmann | listing all tests | 08:50 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: you mean project wise? | 08:50 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: like log the plugin check to a dedicated file for each plugin (install, list, cleanup) | 08:50 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: yeah we could have a subfolder and a log file per plugin in there or so | 08:51 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: sure, i will do that | 08:51 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: and in the main log just one line per plugin | 08:51 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: i will update the patch | 08:51 |
| gmann | +1 for subfolder otherwise it will be huge number files at top dir | 08:51 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: because it's really hard to see which plugin passed and which failed | 08:51 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: but otherwise the job seems to do its work | 08:52 |
| andreaf | networking-plumgrid plugin is failing now | 08:52 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: i will take a look on that. | 08:53 |
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| andreaf | so it's identifying failures which is good | 08:53 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: ok thanks | 08:53 |
| chandankumar | On tempest plugin split goal side: octavia is at risk only | 08:53 |
| chandankumar | All are in controle | 08:53 |
| gmann | ok, let's jump to open | 08:53 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 08:53 |
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| chandankumar | ironic guys are working on tempest plugin migration this week | 08:53 |
| andreaf | the POST_FAILURE is kind of masking the failure in RUN though so it would be good to fix that | 08:53 |
| gmann | chandankumar: for review only right ? | 08:53 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: cool, thanks for the update and work on that | 08:54 |
| chandankumar | gmann: yes for review and syncing the code | 08:54 |
| gmann | chandankumar: link, i can help there | 08:54 |
| chandankumar | gmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin | 08:54 |
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| gmann | thanks ll check | 08:55 |
| chandankumar | gmann: andreaf ironic tempest plugin stuff is tracked here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-tempest-plugin-migration | 08:55 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin octavia tempest plugin | 08:55 |
| chandankumar | gmann: thanks for taking care of ec2-api one | 08:55 |
| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-tempest-plugin-migration ironic tempest plugin | 08:56 |
| gmann | chandankumar: np, waiting for project config to give the repo | 08:56 |
| chandankumar | gmann: i need to mail PTL once again then | 08:56 |
| chandankumar | gmann: he is not fan of irc | 08:56 |
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| gmann | ah yea need PTL +1 | 08:56 |
| gmann | chandankumar: thanks | 08:56 |
| gmann | 2 min left, any other things to discuss | 08:56 |
| chandankumar | nope from my side. | 08:57 |
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| gmann | let's close the meeting | 08:57 |
| gmann | 3 ... | 08:57 |
| gmann | 2 .. | 08:57 |
| andreaf | I will have a kind of long christmas break | 08:57 |
| gmann | 1 . | 08:57 |
| andreaf | from before xmas till Jan 9th | 08:58 |
| gmann | andreaf: ok have a nice break and enjoy | 08:58 |
| andreaf | gmann: thanks :) | 08:58 |
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| gmann | thanks all for joining meeting | 08:58 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 08:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 14 08:58:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-12-14-07.58.html | 08:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-12-14-07.58.txt | 08:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-12-14-07.58.log.html | 08:58 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 14 14:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| tssurya | o/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ kind o | 14:00 |
| mriedem | *of | 14:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| cleong | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | I will be your host today | 14:00 |
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| gibi | let's get started | 14:01 |
| gibi | #topic release news | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
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| gibi | #link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule | 14:02 |
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| gibi | #info Blueprints: 52 targeted, 52 approved, 13 complete (2 completed since the last meeting) | 14:02 |
| gibi | steady progress on bps | 14:02 |
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| gibi | #link Dev ML thread on making the release cycle 1 year instead of 6 months: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125473.html | 14:02 |
| gibi | ML thread that worth to read | 14:02 |
| bauzas | Definitely | 14:02 |
| cdent | don't just read, comment too | 14:02 |
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| cdent | there aren't enough regular developers commenting on it, yet | 14:03 |
| gibi | moving forward | 14:03 |
| gibi | #topic bugs | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| gibi | no critical bugs | 14:04 |
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| bauzas | Well it's also due to some language issue | 14:04 |
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| gibi | #info 32 new untriaged bugs (up 8 since the last meeting) | 14:04 |
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| gibi | gate seems OK | 14:05 |
| gibi | there was a frequently failing funtional test http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1736976 | 14:05 |
| gibi | but the fix is on master now | 14:05 |
| gibi | 3rd party CI | 14:06 |
| * edleafe was bitten by that | 14:06 | |
| mriedem | 3rd party ci was ok except zkvm hiccups this week | 14:06 |
| mriedem | but that's fixed now i'm told | 14:06 |
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| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 14:06 |
| gibi | anything else about bugs or CI? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | we've got'em | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i guess i've got one series, | 14:07 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1737779 | 14:07 |
| mriedem | ^ unblocks the trove gate | 14:07 |
| mriedem | and fixes issues with resize with a volume attached with the new attach flow | 14:07 |
| mriedem | found out last night that fibrechannel backends in cinder are busted with the new flow too | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | but that's a cinder bug | 14:08 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527852/ | 14:08 |
| mriedem | just FYI if you love FC | 14:08 |
| cdent | only fibrechannel? weird | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | i'm sure there are others | 14:09 |
| mriedem | basically anything that brick returns for a host connector, | 14:09 |
| mriedem | where the value in the dict is nota string | 14:10 |
| mriedem | cinder explodes | 14:10 |
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| gibi | any other bugs to mention? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:10 |
| gibi | OK, then moving forward | 14:10 |
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| gibi | #topic reminders | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:10 | |
| gibi | bluerpint status are tracked in #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-blueprint-status | 14:11 |
| mriedem | we have 2 more bps that are basically done too | 14:11 |
| mriedem | so numbers are better than listed | 14:11 |
| mriedem | thanks for everyone pushing | 14:12 |
| gibi | #topic stable branch status | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:12 | |
| gibi | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:12 |
| gibi | link Etherpad for bugs tracked for Pike backports: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-bug-fix-backports | 14:12 |
| gibi | #link Pike 16.0.4 release request https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527275/ | 14:12 |
| gibi | 16.0.4 contains CVE fixes | 14:13 |
| gibi | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:13 |
| gibi | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:13 |
| gibi | #action mriedem to send an email to the dev list about what we need to get to newton EOL | 14:13 |
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| gibi | anything to discuss regarding stable branches? | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | nope | 14:14 |
| gibi | #topic subteam highlights | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:15 | |
| gibi | Cells v2 | 14:15 |
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| gibi | do we have anybody awake from the cells subteam? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | i am | 14:15 |
| mriedem | not sure if dansmith is | 14:15 |
| mriedem | we have some bugs | 14:15 |
| mriedem | reviews are up, working through them | 14:16 |
| mriedem | i think that's it | 14:16 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 14:16 |
| gibi | Scheduler | 14:16 |
| edleafe | Got a status update on nested resource providers. Good progress, but still a lot of work to do. | 14:16 |
| edleafe | Alternate host series has mostly merged, just two more to go | 14:16 |
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| edleafe | cdent got a brain dump from efried_cya_jan on the provider_tree work and will write up a summary | 14:16 |
| edleafe | Trying to stay focused until the holidays pull us all away | 14:16 |
| edleafe | that's it | 14:16 |
| bauzas | Vacations for dansmith | 14:16 |
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| gibi | edleafe: thanks | 14:16 |
| gibi | API | 14:17 |
| gibi | gmann and I had a really short meeting | 14:17 |
| gmann | gibi: yea not much on API | 14:17 |
| gmann | we just floated the reviews | 14:17 |
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| gibi | Notification | 14:18 |
| gibi | short meeting also | 14:18 |
| gibi | discussed bugs including the one I mentioned in the gate status topic | 14:18 |
| gibi | nothing else really | 14:18 |
| gibi | Cinder | 14:19 |
| gibi | (mriedem) - new attach flow is merged, some bugs have shaken out, they are being worked (both in nova and cinder) | 14:19 |
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| gibi | mriedem: anything else you want to add? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:19 |
| mriedem | well | 14:20 |
| mriedem | ildikov is working the multiattach patches | 14:20 |
| mriedem | but they are still wip until more reviews happen i think | 14:20 |
| mriedem | we need to get the tempest test resurrected for multiattach too | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266605/ | 14:21 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 14:21 |
| gibi | #topic stuck reviews | 14:21 |
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| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 14:21 |
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| gibi | #topic open discussion | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 14:22 |
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| gibi | do we have someting to discuss? | 14:22 |
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| gibi | I guess it means, no | 14:23 |
| * edleafe stares out the window | 14:23 | |
| gibi | then let's close this meeting | 14:23 |
| gibi | thanks for the participation | 14:24 |
| cdent | thansk gibi | 14:24 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 14 14:24:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-12-14-14.00.html | 14:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-12-14-14.00.txt | 14:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-12-14-14.00.log.html | 14:24 |
| gmann | thanks gibi | 14:24 |
| stephenfin | aye, cheers | 14:24 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 14 22:00:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | hey yamamoto | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | I don't see ihrachys or amotoki connected yet | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | I know armax will join us 15 minutes late | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | so let's wait a few minutes | 22:03 |
| yamamoto | ok | 22:04 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto: this reminds me that you made a proposal about RFE process. I will chime in at the end of this meeting | 22:05 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto: did you get the reviews you requested for stable patches? | 22:06 |
| yamamoto | yes | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 22:07 |
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| armax | here | 22:19 |
| armax | were you folks waiting for me? | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | armax: yes | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | we didn't have quorum | 22:20 |
| armax | aye | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | it's you yamamoto and me | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | so let's get rolling | 22:20 |
| armax | it’s just the three of us? | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | yes | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | Firt RFE to discuss today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 22:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:21 |
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| yamamoto | no use cases given it seems | 22:23 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:23 |
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| mlavalle | I don't see a compelling reason to implement the attribute | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | as yamamoto commented in the RFE, the user can always show the network | 22:25 |
| mlavalle | and see if the policy was inherited by the port | 22:25 |
| armax | I am not strongly opinionated here | 22:25 |
| mlavalle | you see no harm? | 22:26 |
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| armax | no | 22:27 |
| mlavalle | there is code already, both in neutron-lib and neutron | 22:27 |
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| yamamoto | it seems no one explicitly requested the feature. i guess it's appropriate to drop the rfe tag. | 22:29 |
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| mlavalle | we can state in the RFE that we don't see a reason to implement this, unless a use case is provided | 22:30 |
| mlavalle | does that make sense? | 22:30 |
| yamamoto | yes | 22:30 |
| mlavalle | armax: ? | 22:31 |
| armax | yup | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | ok cool | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | let's move on | 22:31 |
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| yamamoto | if we need the "feature", i prefer "effective qos id" rather than "network qos id" | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690425 | 22:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690425 in neutron "[RFE] neutron cells aware" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:32 |
| mlavalle | I had a conversation with Kris from GoDaddy regarding this | 22:32 |
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| mlavalle | I posted a summary in the RFE | 22:33 |
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| armax | makes sense to me | 22:34 |
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| mlavalle | so maybe we should start considering seriously how to implement cells in Neutron | 22:35 |
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| mlavalle | armax: would that be your reading of the implication of that conversation? | 22:35 |
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| * armax reread | 22:36 | |
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| armax | I think the benefits of partioning neutron in a cell-like environment are a lot less evident than nova’s | 22:37 |
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| armax | ultimately neutron just does the wiring amongst VMs | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | yes, I think in his comements Chris agrees that we might improve sign ificantly the performance by adressing the RPC channel | 22:38 |
| armax | and the mesh where the messages flow back and forth depend on where the VMs land | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | he was thinking more of fault isolation, but maybe cells is not the right construct for that | 22:39 |
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| armax | I am not sure tha adding an extra layer of partitioning is going to be beneficial | 22:39 |
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| mlavalle | given the amount of work that would represent | 22:39 |
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| armax | agreed | 22:41 |
| mlavalle | if we decided to start working on the approach suggested in #5, what would be the next step? | 22:41 |
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| mlavalle | I know that maybe the answer is a spec.... | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | but my question is, what would be the outline of the proposal made in the spec? | 22:42 |
| armax | but we could in theory just have someone work on a prototype | 22:42 |
| armax | to start with | 22:42 |
| armax | because there’s so much unknown | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | a prototype using that form of RPC? | 22:43 |
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| armax | yes | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | ok | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | I'll think about it | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | I'll leave a comment in the RFE | 22:44 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: any thoughts? | 22:44 |
| yamamoto | a prototype sounds fine | 22:44 |
| mlavalle | cool | 22:44 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705467 | 22:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705467 in neutron "[RFE] project ID is not verified when creating neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:45 |
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| mlavalle | we discussed it last week | 22:45 |
| mlavalle | Left a comment to the submitter | 22:46 |
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| mlavalle | haven't heard back form him | 22:46 |
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| mlavalle | so let's give him another week | 22:46 |
| mlavalle | any comments? | 22:47 |
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| armax | let me check | 22:47 |
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| armax | OK that makes sense | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | cool | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | let's move on | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705719 | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705719 in neutron "[RFE] QinQ network driver" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:49 |
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| mlavalle | The submitter was reassigned to do something else | 22:50 |
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| mlavalle | and abandoned the related patches | 22:50 |
| mlavalle | since I don't see anybody else asking for this | 22:51 |
| armax | um | 22:51 |
| armax | too bad | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | I suggest delaying this | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | postpone | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | agree? | 22:52 |
| armax | yup | 22:52 |
| yamamoto | yes | 22:52 |
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| mlavalle | ok, marke postponed and left a comment | 22:54 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717560 | 22:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717560 in neutron "[RFE] allow to have no default route in DHCP host routes" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:54 |
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| armax | I think this died on the vine | 22:56 |
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| mlavalle | mhhh, maybe I should ping Thomas over the next few days, to make sure that is the case | 22:57 |
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| mlavalle | I can leave a comment in the RFE and try to ping him in IRC | 22:57 |
| armax | I need to go back and re-read the whole thing because I am still struggling to see why we need to have this behavior driven by API changes | 22:57 |
| mlavalle | armax: would you leave a comment after re-reading? | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | after going through all the comments eralier today | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | it made sense to me | 22:59 |
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| mlavalle | but we can discuss it in the RFE | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | and confirm with Thomas | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | agree? | 22:59 |
| armax | OK | 23:00 |
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| mlavalle | we hit the time limit | 23:00 |
| mlavalle | I just want to mention regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1715386 | 23:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1715386 in neutron "[RFE]Support routing traffic based on subnet" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6) | 23:00 |
| mlavalle | that a spec was submitted https://review.openstack.org/523658 | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | as we requested a fw weeks ago | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | I did a review eralier today | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | and I intend to do another pass now | 23:01 |
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| armax | ack | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | I suggest yamamoto and armax wait for the next revision | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | before investing time on it | 23:02 |
| yamamoto | ok | 23:02 |
| mlavalle | still too green | 23:02 |
| armax | sounds good | 23:02 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 23:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 14 23:02:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:02 |
| armax | bye | 23:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-14-22.00.html | 23:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-14-22.00.txt | 23:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop01.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-14-22.00.log.html | 23:02 |
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| yamamoto | bye | 23:02 |
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| mlavalle | thanks armax and yamamoto | 23:02 |
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