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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 02:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 12 02:31:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:31 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 02:31 |
| ekcs | hello al! topics are kept here as usual. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics please read/comment/add =) | 02:32 |
| masahito | hi | 02:32 |
| ekcs | hi masahito ! | 02:32 |
| ekcs | how have you been? hope the new year is going well so far! | 02:33 |
| masahito | ekcs: Happy New Year! It was nice off. How have you been, too? | 02:34 |
| ekcs | i’ve been good for the most part. just getting over a very bad flu though. bad fever for two straight days. finally better now. | 02:35 |
| masahito | That sounds bad. I hope you're well now. | 02:37 |
| ekcs | haha yes much better. thanks! | 02:39 |
| ekcs | well ramineni isn’t here right now maybe we’ll start off with something she and I already talked about. | 02:39 |
| ekcs | #topic congress data type | 02:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "congress data type (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:39 | |
| ekcs | right now congress converts most things to strings | 02:39 |
| ekcs | for example, {'id': '12-34', value: 1} gets converted to row ('12-34', '1') | 02:39 |
| ekcs | seems like an old issue that never got fixed: https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress_tempest_tests/tests/scenario/congress_datasources/test_glancev2.py#L86 | 02:39 |
| ekcs | I’d like to preserve the data types. should be a fairly simple change in value translator. | 02:40 |
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| ekcs | it would enable things like p(value=x), p(value=y), builtin:gt(x,y) | 02:40 |
| ekcs | but it’s not a backward compatible change. if someone is relying on the conversion to string behavior, things get broken. | 02:41 |
| masahito | sounds nice. | 02:41 |
| ekcs | so I’m thinking we could change default but add a flag that can be set do preserve old behavior. | 02:41 |
| ekcs | any opinions there? | 02:42 |
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| masahito | What type do you plan to support? | 02:42 |
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| masahito | What makes it hard to implement is how we store rules in DB. | 02:44 |
| ekcs | thinking at least string, int, and float. | 02:44 |
| ekcs | good point about DB. I’ll look deeper but I think it’ll be ok because we already support those types in the rule language. | 02:45 |
| ekcs | https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/datalog/Congress.g#L183 | 02:45 |
| ekcs | in DB it would be stored as original rule string which when parsed by congress becomes float/int/string etc. | 02:45 |
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| masahito | oh, right. | 02:46 |
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| ekcs | the types are already supported by the rules, just that the datasource translator is not producing the right types. | 02:47 |
| masahito | So what we'll do is just keeping data type in datasource translator, isn't it? | 02:50 |
| ekcs | that’s what I’m thinking | 02:50 |
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| ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! we’re just talking about preserving data types some more. | 02:54 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok | 02:55 |
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| ekcs | well why don’t we come back to it later. | 02:58 |
| ekcs | #topic gate | 02:59 |
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| ekcs | we are having a gate failure because upping oslo config to 5.2 broke some config validator tests. | 02:59 |
| ramineni_ | Looks like it's resolved now | 03:00 |
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| ekcs | I have a patch here that fixes the unit tests and disables temporarily the dsvm tests so that we can get other patches in for queens3 | 03:00 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532593/ | 03:00 |
| ekcs | it is? doesn’t look like it. | 03:00 |
| ramineni_ | Oh | 03:01 |
| ekcs | the only thing that passed gate since the break is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532000/ | 03:02 |
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| ekcs | and only because it didn’t run the tests. | 03:02 |
| ramineni_ | Ohok ..then I have mislooked it | 03:02 |
| ekcs | anyway so I’m hoping the patch works and we can merge it asap to unblock the gate so others things and proceed. | 03:02 |
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| ekcs | any more thoughts/comments about gate? | 03:03 |
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| ramineni_ | We got a fix for skipping tests also | 03:05 |
| ekcs | yes that’s great! | 03:05 |
| ramineni_ | All splitted tempest repos needs to be added .. after that all the tests are enabled | 03:06 |
| ramineni_ | Aodh works fine now ..I'm in proccess of adding others too | 03:06 |
| ramineni_ | Zuul looks very slow for past couple of days .. so taking time to get validated | 03:07 |
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| ekcs | yes great that chandan and gmann helped us figure that out quickly. | 03:07 |
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| ramineni_ | Yes | 03:08 |
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| ekcs | and thanks for getting after the issue too. just a thought though, if there are queens-3 things you’d like to do, it could make sense to prioritize those. cuz these test fixes technically can wait a week or two. | 03:08 |
| ekcs | on that note let’s move on to queens-3 | 03:09 |
| ekcs | #topic queens-3 | 03:09 |
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| ekcs | queens-3, final client release, and feature freeze is due Thursday of the week of 1/22 | 03:09 |
| ekcs | let’s think about which final things we want to try and finish. | 03:10 |
| ekcs | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-task-priority | 03:10 |
| ekcs | I’ve updated the priorities a bit. planning aggressively, I think we may be able to finish everything up to #5. | 03:11 |
| ekcs | 1 and 2 are basically done. | 03:11 |
| ekcs | if I focus I think I can get 3 done within a week. | 03:12 |
| ekcs | I’d like to try to get 5 done too but that requires a bit more exploration and less certain. | 03:13 |
| ekcs | any thoughts on what we’d like to add/remove/change in final weeks of queens-3? | 03:14 |
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| ekcs | monasca webhook would’ve been great but as ramineni_ and I discussed last time it’s not possible now without change on monasca side. | 03:14 |
| ramineni_ | I can target that for rocky -1 | 03:17 |
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| ekcs | that’d be awesome. | 03:20 |
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| ekcs | one more thing on queens-3. | 03:21 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: did you have more thoughts about the driver config issue? | 03:22 |
| ekcs | I think as of our final email we’re pretty close on how to proceed. | 03:22 |
| ramineni_ | Ya ..I think we agreed on the approach .. But don't remember now ..I'll look into it and start on that | 03:23 |
| ekcs | if you have time to knock that out for queens-3 that’d be great. but if not i’ll try to get to it. we can also take this offline if there is more depth to discuss. | 03:23 |
| ekcs | ok. great thanks! | 03:24 |
| ekcs | anything else on queens-3 or anything else to discuss at all? | 03:24 |
| ekcs | last 5 minutes =) | 03:24 |
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| ekcs | oops looks like I got disconnected. | 03:29 |
| ekcs | well let’s end meeting then. looks like we’re on track for a very productive and feature-rich queens release. talk to you guys next week! | 03:30 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 03:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jan 12 03:30:14 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-01-12-02.31.html | 03:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-01-12-02.31.txt | 03:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-01-12-02.31.log.html | 03:30 |
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| masahito | thanks, bye. | 03:30 |
| ekcs | bye masahito @ | 03:31 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 12 15:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Morning dhellmann. | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 15:00 |
| ttx | oh, that time already? | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | hi, smcginnis | 15:00 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: Time flies when you're having fun, huh? :) | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | it's always meeting time somewhere? | 15:01 |
| fungi | yeah, still trying to get caught up this morning | 15:01 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Looks like we are on line 213 of the tracker. | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | And looks like we have the usual suspects all here, so let's get to it. | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | #topic TripleO stable/pike request | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TripleO stable/pike request (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
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| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532224/ Release review | 15:02 |
| EmilienM | hi | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | ttx: So you commented on there we should discuss. Do you want to bring up concerns? | 15:03 |
| EmilienM | do you want me to move it as independent for Pike and starting from Queens, move it along other tripleo deliverables? | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : what's the plan for queens? will there be a queens release during queens, or is it going to come after, too? | 15:04 |
| ttx | Well, we usually do not add to a release after the fact, and creating stable/pike could be construed as that | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | (please note that I woke up for you this morning :-P) | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Would that work for whatever workflow they need. I have to be honest, I still don't quite understand that part. | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we've said in the past it was ok to create stable branches after the fact because the names are an artifact of our testing setup | 15:04 |
| ttx | so I think that's exceptional enough to warrant a discussion | 15:04 |
| EmilienM | the long term plan is to release it as any other tripleo project | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | but that we didn't want to include the deliverable on the pike page, which we can avoid here by moving the file to the _independent directory | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | works for me for Pike | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | I can work with EmilienM on that if everyone agrees? | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | So release for now as independent. Then sometime before the end of the cycle do another one as an official queens deliverable. | 15:05 |
| EmilienM | is it just a file copy/paste ? | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : right | 15:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that would work for me -- as long as it doesn't appear on the page I think it can't be misinterpreted | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : rename the file | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | Sounds like this will work for everyone. Sound good EmilienM? | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | ttx: right, I think that's why we don't validate that the stable branch being created matches the deliverable filename | 15:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: alt solution being to have some kind of #do-not-show directive that would make it skipped | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | sure. I think we have several of these in the independent directory, where we imported history after the fact | 15:07 |
| ttx | but that is probably more complex | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | sounds good to you, sounds good to me | 15:07 |
| ttx | alright | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Cool, you can go back to bed then. :) | 15:07 |
| fungi | also arguably more correct in indicating that this release was independent of the coordinated pike rlease | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : do you want to update the patch before you go back to sleep, or should I do it for you? :-) | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | fungi: ++ | 15:07 |
| EmilienM | ahah I'm working now :P | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | That was quick. | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything more to discuss on this topic before we move on? | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | ok. I'll watch for the jobs to finish and approve that after the meeting | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | #topic | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:09 | |
| smcginnis | #topic | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:09 | |
| smcginnis | Total keyboard failure. :/ | 15:09 |
| * dhellmann wonders where smcginnis gets his invisible e-ink | 15:10 | |
| * lbragstad hands smcginnis another coffee | 15:10 | |
| smcginnis | #topic Create stable/queens specific ACL | 15:10 |
| EmilienM | apparently I'm not the only one who woke up early :-P | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Create stable/queens specific ACL (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:10 | |
| smcginnis | Whew | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | \o/ | 15:10 |
| lbragstad | lol | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | That was more difficult than it should have been :) | 15:10 |
| * EmilienM runs and leave | 15:10 | |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Thanks! | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532205/ | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | I was going to ask about this, it's mentioned in PROCESS. | 15:10 |
| ttx | yes I need infra to process https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532205/ so that I can move to next step (populate the group) | 15:10 |
| fungi | i'll take a look | 15:11 |
| ttx | It's the usual ACL dance that lets us switch stable/$foo control | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | Already has a +2 from Andreas on there, so we should be in good shape. | 15:11 |
| ttx | around release time | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | #action fungi to review ACL change | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | #topic PTG needs | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG needs (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:12 | |
| smcginnis | Heh, look at that. Two commands and no screw ups. I'm on a roll. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | So just wanted to bring up the PTG and see if there's anything extra we need to plan for. | 15:12 |
| ttx | We have asked for 0.5 days | 15:13 |
| ttx | I think the best is for us to schedule it on the spot | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | that seemed to be plenty of time last time | 15:13 |
| ttx | let me expand a bit on that | 15:13 |
| ttx | PTGbot now has a list of rooms and tracks. Some tracks are pre-assigned to rooms | 15:13 |
| ttx | but otherwise any track can book an available room | 15:14 |
| ttx | and appear on the schedule | 15:14 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: So you think we should withdraw our request for .5 day and just utilize the ptgbot to grab a space when needed? | 15:14 |
| ttx | as simple as #relmgt book Missouri-MonAM | 15:14 |
| ttx | smcginnis: no, but we'll likely ask anyone who asked for 0.5 days to dynamically schedule it whenever works best for participants | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Ah, OK. That works for me. | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | is that to avoid someone having to coordinate the schedule in advance? | 15:15 |
| ttx | I think it's a lot better than generating arbitrary conflucts in advance | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | And most of us have enough overlaps during the week that I'm sure we can handle anything else that comes up. | 15:15 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yes, but also add some dynamic scheduling and retrofit "reservable rooms" into the PTGbot system | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | makes sense | 15:16 |
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| smcginnis | I'm sure everyone is aware, but just to point out due to where things fell, the PTG week is also the Queens release week this time around. | 15:16 |
| ttx | So you can book a room for an afternoon, and still use the PTGbot to brag about the current discussion topic | 15:16 |
| fungi | smcginnis: didn't that happen for pike too? | 15:17 |
| ttx | all you need is a "track" (team name, theme) to reserve it under | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | I thought it was the week before? Maybe. | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | didn't we do that on purpose? | 15:17 |
| fungi | yeah ;) | 15:17 |
| ttx | and we can be pretty flexible in handing those out | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | nice | 15:17 |
| ttx | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/README.rst shows the new commands | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | I still want to add twitter support to that bot for notifications | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Release was two weeks before PTG last time: https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 15:18 |
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| ttx | http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html is a bit bare right now, will be clearer once that's populated | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | oh, maybe it was atlanta where it lined up the same | 15:18 |
| fungi | ahh, yep, i forgot we've had two ptgs already | 15:18 |
| fungi | it was ocata/atlanta | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | ttx: will that page show some sort of list of "available time slots" too? | 15:19 |
| ttx | yes | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | k | 15:19 |
| ttx | for the whole week. Tabbed interface | 15:19 |
| ttx | shiny | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | fancy | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | Speaking of which schedule, please take a look if you haven't at the proposed schedule for any issues. | 15:19 |
| ttx | aka ttx does ugly Bootstrap | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528772/ Proposed Rocky Schedule | 15:19 |
| ttx | I think we should approve it at this point | 15:20 |
| ttx | would reinforce that Rocky is a 6-month cycle despite the discussion we've been having | 15:21 |
| ttx | since some people are still confused | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | Not set it stone, so we can always alter later. | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | good point | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | approved | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Still no word on the next PTG? | 15:21 |
| ttx | also yes, worst case scenario if the PTG4 lands in a weird spot we can adjust the later weeks | 15:21 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I'm having a meeting next week to discuss the details | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | OK, great. | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | Worse case scenario, we have plenty of lead time to work around any weird timing issues. | 15:22 |
| ttx | but at best that will mean knowing there will be one, and the target weeks, not a confirmation of the place and time | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | ack | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:23 | |
| smcginnis | Anything else to discuss in-meeting? | 15:23 |
| ttx | nothing from me | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | OK, let's wrap it up then. Thanks everyone. | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jan 12 15:24:01 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-01-12-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-01-12-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-01-12-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
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