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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2018-01-23_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 03:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
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| mkrai | o/ | 03:00 |
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| kevinz | o/ | 03:01 |
| hongbin | hi mkrai kevinz | 03:01 |
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| hongbin | we could have a short meeting today | 03:01 |
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| kevinz | OK | 03:01 |
| hongbin | mkrai: what is news on your side ? | 03:02 |
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| mkrai | I was working on the CC intergartion patches | 03:02 |
| mkrai | And both the patches are merged | 03:02 |
| hongbin | great | 03:03 |
| mkrai | So we now have a basic support of running CC in Zun | 03:03 |
| hongbin | that is awesome | 03:03 |
| mkrai | We have put this on hold because of new Kata containers | 03:03 |
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| mkrai | We will revisit this feature when Kata is ready for use | 03:03 |
| hongbin | sounds good | 03:03 |
| mkrai | That's all from my side | 03:03 |
| hongbin | mkrai: thanks madhuri | 03:04 |
| mkrai | Thanks hongbin for reviewing :) | 03:04 |
| hongbin | kevinz: any update from your side? | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | mkrai: np | 03:04 |
| kevinz | I'm working on k8s integration | 03:04 |
| kevinz | I pushed some patch to modify capsule create and parameters | 03:04 |
| kevinz | Also works on Gophercloud | 03:05 |
| kevinz | gophercloud support with zun | 03:05 |
| hongbin | that is cool | 03:05 |
| kevinz | https://github.com/gophercloud/gophercloud/issues/700 | 03:05 |
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| kevinz | This one | 03:05 |
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| kevinz | But now capsule is not in the stable api, so gophercloud will open a new branch to deal with it | 03:06 |
| hongbin | oh, i see | 03:06 |
| mkrai | that is awesome kevinz :) | 03:06 |
| kevinz | I will submit one patch this week | 03:06 |
| kevinz | thanks mkrai | 03:06 |
| hongbin | so if capsule is in the stable api, gopher cloud will merge the zun-exp tree ? | 03:07 |
| kevinz | hongbin: yes, they will | 03:07 |
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| hongbin | kevinz: i see, another question | 03:07 |
| kevinz | hongbin: But I think stay in zun-exp is also OK now for development | 03:08 |
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| hongbin | kevinz: +1 | 03:08 |
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| hongbin | kevinz: who will review the zun-exp tree ? | 03:09 |
| kevinz | kevinz: will do more to make capsule more stable, then move to experimental to stable | 03:09 |
| kevinz | hongbin: you mean in the gophercloud | 03:09 |
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| kevinz | ? | 03:09 |
| hongbin | yes | 03:09 |
| kevinz | jrperritt and jtopjian | 03:09 |
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| hongbin | ok, i assume both zun-exp and master are the same set of reviewers in gophercloud ? | 03:10 |
| hongbin | the rational to have a separated tree is to mark the features as experimental i guess | 03:10 |
| kevinz | But they are not familiar with zun, so they request us to submit patch which follow the gophercloud rule | 03:11 |
| kevinz | yes they are the same set of reviewer | 03:11 |
| hongbin | i see | 03:11 |
| kevinz | hongbin: Yeah I think so | 03:11 |
| hongbin | i see | 03:11 |
| hongbin | kevinz: great job in gophercloud | 03:12 |
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| kevinz | hongbin: Thanks | 03:12 |
| hongbin | kevinz: good to see things are working in good progress there | 03:12 |
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| kevinz | Sure, hope to update more information about this next meeting | 03:13 |
| hongbin | kevinz: great, look forward to it | 03:13 |
| hongbin | kevinz: thanks kevin | 03:13 |
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| hongbin | from my side, i was mainly working on a few heat patches | 03:14 |
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| kevinz | hongbin: yw | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:zun | 03:14 |
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| hongbin | hopefully, we could have all the patches merged in this release | 03:15 |
| hongbin | which will be due in a few weeks | 03:15 |
| mkrai | hongbin: when is the realease due? | 03:15 |
| mkrai | ok | 03:15 |
| hongbin | btw, this release will be the first 1.x release for zun | 03:15 |
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| hongbin | mkrai: https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 03:16 |
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| hongbin | mkrai: i guess the release will be in early feb | 03:16 |
| mkrai | hongbin: Thank you for the link | 03:17 |
| hongbin | ok, that is all from my side | 03:17 |
| hongbin | anything else before i close the meeting? | 03:17 |
| mkrai | no | 03:17 |
| hongbin | ok | 03:17 |
| hongbin | mkrai: kevinz thanks for joininig the meeting, see you next time | 03:18 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 03:18:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-01-16-03.00.html | 03:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-01-16-03.00.txt | 03:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-01-16-03.00.log.html | 03:18 |
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| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 04:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
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| samP | tpatil: Hi | 04:00 |
| sagara | hi | 04:00 |
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| samP | sorry for long absent | 04:00 |
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| samP | #topic High priority items | 04:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| samP | Any Hight Priority items to discuss? | 04:01 |
| samP | if any please bring them up any time. proceeding to next topic | 04:01 |
| samP | #topic Critical bugs | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical bugs (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| samP | Any Bugs to discuss? | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531310/ | 04:02 |
| tpatil | I think this bug should be fixed in queens release | 04:02 |
| tpatil | I have voted -1 | 04:02 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I heard that Takahara is addressing your comments now. | 04:03 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks for the review. | 04:03 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Ok | 04:03 |
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| samP | comments are not critical, its a easy fix. | 04:04 |
| samP | tpatil: rkmrHonjo: let's merge this in Q | 04:04 |
| tpatil | samP: Yes | 04:04 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: ok, I tell it to takahara. | 04:05 |
| tpatil | Another patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486576/ | 04:05 |
| samP | tpatil: rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | we should merge this patch as py35 tests are failing on all patches | 04:05 |
| tpatil | I have already voted +2, need another +2 | 04:06 |
| samP | tpatil: I will look into thsi | 04:06 |
| samP | s/thsi/this | 04:06 |
| tpatil | samP: ok, Thanks | 04:06 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:06 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks for review | 04:06 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks for the fix | 04:07 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh suggested to change the py35 test to vote.(current py35 test is non-vote.) I think that we can change it after merging it. | 04:08 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: sure, let's see how things work after merge above patch | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | ok. | 04:09 |
| samP | if no problem, then let's put py35 to vote | 04:09 |
| samP | Any other bugs? | 04:10 |
| tpatil | https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1738340 | 04:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1738340 in masakari "When no reserved_host available, nova-compute service on failed host remains enabled" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo) | 04:10 |
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| tpatil | in the fix, a new config option is introduced so I have commented on the patch asking to write down lite-specs | 04:11 |
| tpatil | is it ok to fix this issue as a bug or feature? | 04:11 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I think that this patch doesn't add a new config option. | 04:12 |
| tpatil | sorry, no new config option | 04:12 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok. And, I think that this is just a bug fix. Because this patch doesn't add new action. | 04:13 |
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| rkmrHonjo | In current rh_workflow, failure host is still enable and VMs are not evacuated if reserved host is nothing. | 04:14 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: tpatil: sorry fot the delay, tried to understand the problem here | 04:14 |
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| tpatil | The notification request will be marked as complete which will give false impression to operator | 04:15 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: this patch propose to disable to nova-compute on failed host | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | after disabling compute host | 04:15 |
| rkmrHonjo | But, failure host is disable if this patch will be merged. I think that it is not new action, and it is good from point of safety view. | 04:15 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Ah, thanks, I understand your opinion. | 04:16 |
| tpatil | if notification request is complete, it means that the failed host is evacuated successfully, but if reserved host is not available, then it is simply disabling compute host which I think isn't sufficient | 04:17 |
| samP | tpatil: agree. | 04:17 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Do you think this idea: "Disable host, and not complete the notification" ? | 04:18 |
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| samP | you may disable to compute node but should not complete the recovery | 04:18 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: yes. | 04:18 |
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| tpatil | samP: agree | 04:19 |
| rkmrHonjo | ok, can I(and Takahara) create a new patch according to samP's idea? | 04:19 |
| tpatil | in the periodic task, it will again try to execute the workflow and finally it will give up and set it failed | 04:19 |
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| samP | tpatil: correct | 04:20 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: I will add this comment on the patch | 04:21 |
| samP | I think we should bring this step to very beginning of the flow. (1) disable the compte node (2) runt evacuation | 04:21 |
| samP | I will add my comments too | 04:22 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks! In that case, should I write a lite-spec? | 04:22 |
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| tpatil | Just noticed that it is raising ReservedHostsUnavailable exception | 04:22 |
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| tpatil | so I think whatever we discussed is already taken care of. I will review the patch again | 04:23 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I got it. | 04:24 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: I will add a comment if spec required | 04:24 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: ok. | 04:25 |
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| rkmrHonjo | I think that releasenote is required. | 04:25 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: it depends on how you implement this. | 04:27 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Yeah. I wait your comments. | 04:27 |
| samP | let's do review first and check what kind of changes needed | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | I got it. | 04:28 |
| samP | then we could discuss about spec and release notes | 04:28 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: BTW thanks for bringing up the release note point | 04:29 |
| samP | any other bugs/patches for discuss? | 04:30 |
| tpatil | sam | 04:30 |
| tpatil | samP: not my side | 04:30 |
| rkmrHonjo | no. | 04:30 |
| samP | thanks.. let's move to next topic | 04:31 |
| samP | #topic Dicussion Points | 04:31 |
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| samP | Sorry that I couldn't follow the work. | 04:32 |
| samP | Please proceed if you have any updates on your work. | 04:32 |
| tpatil | Regarding horizon dashboard | 04:33 |
| tpatil | Niraj has pushed initial cookie cutter patch | 04:33 |
| tpatil | I have voted + 2, need another +2 | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: I will check | 04:34 |
| rkmrHonjo | oh, sorry, I couldn't review it last week... | 04:34 |
| samP | tpatil: Niraj: Thanks | 04:34 |
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| samP | any other updates? | 04:37 |
| rkmrHonjo | Can I talk about my update? | 04:37 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: sure, goahead | 04:37 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:37 |
| rkmrHonjo | Call Force down API when host-failure will be notified | 04:37 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Takahara replied to you on gerrit. Please check it. | 04:38 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526598/ | 04:38 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: I have read his reply and I agree the evacuation will succeed. But still compute service might be still up and running which could update instance states | 04:39 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I think that it is prevented. There is force down flag. I re-confirm it and write it on gerrit. | 04:41 |
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| tpatil | after force down api is called , is compute service still running? | 04:42 |
| tpatil | I will test this case and let you know my results | 04:44 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I think that is case-by-case. force down api doesn't kill the process. But, basically, operator will configure the crm to stop the node. And, it is same on current implementation(waiting 3 minutes). | 04:45 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: If operator is going to handle force down notification and kill the compute service on the failed node, then I don't see there will be any problem | 04:47 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: not clear, operator config the crm to catch "force-down" flag? | 04:48 |
| samP | s/force-down/forced_down | 04:49 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: No, crm doesn't catch force-down flag. Operator will config the crm to catch host down. If pacemaker catch the host down, masakari-monitor send a notification(host down). | 04:50 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: got it. | 04:51 |
| rkmrHonjo | I think that force down flag is referred from nova. If it is true, nova doesn't change the status to up. | 04:51 |
| samP | your point is, when masakari gets the HostDown notification, the host is already down for sure | 04:51 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: I got it | 04:52 |
| samP | and its totally safe to use force-down api to bring down the binary and proceed the evacuation work flow | 04:52 |
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| samP | correction: not bring down the binary, but just the put foreced-down flag on that binary | 04:54 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: understood | 04:54 |
| samP | we only have 5mis left | 04:54 |
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| samP | I think if we do this change to masakari, this means pacemaker or anyone controlling the cluster must make sure that it kill the node before it sends the host failed notification to masakari | 04:57 |
| samP | I think we have already put this point in our docs. (if not we must) | 04:58 |
| samP | any other updates? | 04:58 |
| tpatil | No | 04:58 |
| rkmrHonjo | no. | 04:59 |
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| samP | Thank you all... | 04:59 |
| rkmrHonjo | thank you. | 04:59 |
| samP | please use #openstack-masakari or ML with [masakari] for further discussion | 04:59 |
| samP | Thank you all | 04:59 |
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| samP | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 04:59:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-01-16-04.00.html | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-01-16-04.00.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-01-16-04.00.log.html | 04:59 |
| tpatil | Thank you | 04:59 |
| rkmrHonjo | Bye. | 04:59 |
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| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 14:00:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | hi everyone | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
| slaweq | hi | 14:01 |
| annp | hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | we're approaching milestone 3, which is due Jan 25 | 14:01 |
| hichihara | hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html#q-3 | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | next week ! | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | yeah, scary :) but we will manage | 14:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | I guess we'll talk more about bugs and blueprints in a dedicated topic | 14:01 |
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| annp | jilibosva, slaweq, mlavalle, thanks for your great help on logging. | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | so about a month after the q3, there will be the PTG event in Dublin and I hope a lot of people will come :) | 14:02 |
| bcafarel | hi | 14:02 |
| slaweq | I will be there :) | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: you going? | 14:02 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle sent a mail to ML with a link to the etherpad to collect topics we want to discuss | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126055.html | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: unfortunately I can't :( because of family reasons | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: will miss you :-( | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | but I'll be able to join remotely if possible | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | and I'll buy some Guinesses I'll be drinking in the evening :) | 14:03 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks :) | 14:04 |
| amotoki | remote beer party :) | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | anyways - here is the link to the etherpad | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-rocky | 14:04 |
| annp | :) | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | amotoki++ | 14:04 |
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| jlibosva | also related to the Rocky planning topic, there is an ongoing discussion thread about community goals for Rocky. I think it's worth reading | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126090.html | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | and the last thing I wanted to mention is that the Rocky release planning has been merged a few days ago | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528772/ | 14:05 |
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| jlibosva | there was a discussion about making development cycles longer | 14:06 |
| reedip_ | o/ | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | but conclusion is that Rocky will still be a 6 months long | 14:06 |
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| jlibosva | that's all from my side | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | anybody has anything to announce? | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | nope, you were pretty thorough, jlibosva . thanks :-) | 14:07 |
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| jlibosva | cool, let's jump to blueprints then | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:07 | |
| jlibosva | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-3 | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | On the nova port bindings information for live migration I made great progress up until Tuesday of last week | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | Then I slowed down a bit | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | I will continuw pushing this week. But it looks tight | 14:09 |
| annp | jlibosva, mlavalle, slaweq: thanks for your help on logging. There are 2 remmaining patch related to fullstack and tempest. | 14:09 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: do you need any help? | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | annp: but the main funtionality is in, right? | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | it is | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: I can use some help | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | annp: perhaps we could split the tempest patch into scenario and api as the api part is voting | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | it would be great to get the api part in first | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | I just think the split could speed up the process :) | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: ok, we can sync after the meeting | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: :-) | 14:11 |
| annp | jlibosva, thanks, I will do that as your suggest. | 14:11 |
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| annp | that's all from me | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/floating-ip-rate-limit | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | is mostly in | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | the remaining pieces are two: | 14:13 |
| amotoki | IIRC OSC patch landed. the remaining one is doc? | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | docs, which last time I looked wasn't far | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | and an api tempest test | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks for your help with the OSC patch :-) | 14:14 |
| amotoki | no problem | 14:14 |
| amotoki | regarding policy-in-code, it cannot land in Queens as it needs neutron-lib support. | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | what kind of support? | 14:15 |
| amotoki | I was requested from the assignee to investigate the detail but I failed due to my busy time on internal affairs. | 14:15 |
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| amotoki | neutron stadium projects need to inform their in-code policies to the neutron API layer | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 14:16 |
| amotoki | I posted neutron-lib patch but it turned out the policy loading code is now spread into neutorn-lib (context) and neutron main tree. | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the update | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | as far as FWaaS V2, I don't have the latest status but I think it's done | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | xgerman_: you around? | 14:17 |
| jlibosva | there appears to be 3 patches still on review: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/fwaas-api-2+(status:open) | 14:18 |
| xgerman_ | O/ | 14:18 |
| annp | hi xgerman_\ | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | xgerman_: we wanted to see the status of FWaaS v2.0 | 14:19 |
| xgerman_ | We are | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | will it get finished by Q-3? | 14:19 |
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| xgerman_ | Yes | 14:19 |
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| annp | xgerman_ +1 | 14:19 |
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| xgerman_ | We have enough but like some more patches to get in… | 14:19 |
| amotoki | nice | 14:20 |
| amotoki | if they are not critical to FWaaS v2.0 we can split them into separate blueprint(s) | 14:20 |
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| hichihara | I guess that FWaas v2 has L2 port in milestones but it seems abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/361071/ | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | xgerman_: so at this point, can we consider FWaaS v2 done? | 14:20 |
| xgerman_ | We will do so if they slip Q-3 | 14:20 |
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| xgerman_ | Yeah | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | cool! | 14:21 |
| amotoki | xgerman_: what about hichihara's point? | 14:21 |
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| annp | hichihara, the patch regarding to iptables based implementation. | 14:21 |
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| xgerman_ | Yes | 14:22 |
| xgerman_ | We are if’s | 14:22 |
| hichihara | I understand. It's not in v2 scope, right? | 14:22 |
| xgerman_ | No, it’s all OVS | 14:22 |
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| xgerman_ | As suggested in Atlanta | 14:22 |
| hichihara | Ah, I got it. | 14:22 |
| annp | xgerman_, yeah. | 14:22 |
| amotoki | hmm... isn't ovs support required to make fwaas v2 work? | 14:23 |
| amotoki | I am confused | 14:23 |
| xgerman_ | Yes | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | xgerman_: congrats to you and all the fwaas team ! | 14:23 |
| xgerman_ | We are 100% OVS | 14:23 |
| xgerman_ | Thanks | 14:23 |
| annp | mlavalle, thanks | 14:23 |
| amotoki | ah.... I got it. It is iptables-based impl. ovs-native support has been implemented. | 14:24 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:24 |
| hichihara | xgerman_: thanks | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | annp: you've been working hard this cycle :-) | 14:25 |
| annp | mlavalle, :) | 14:25 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: indeed :) | 14:25 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:25 |
| jlibosva | annp++ | 14:25 |
| hichihara | annp++ | 14:25 |
| annp | folks++ | 14:26 |
| annp | :) | 14:26 |
| hichihara | How about other bp? | 14:26 |
| hichihara | amotoki: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-in-tree-api-ref ? | 14:26 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: I have a question regarding blueprints - if a bp misses q3, does it automatically flip to Rocky or driver team discusses it first and treats it as a new bp? | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | "new" in terms of planning | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | I think we are going to flip it to Rocky | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks | 14:27 |
| amotoki | re: neutron-in-tree-api-ref, I am thinking to convert the remaining todos into bugs and close it. | 14:27 |
| xgerman_ | Thanks | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | expecially if there is sigificant progress achieved | 14:27 |
| amotoki | somehow I dropped it from my todo list | 14:28 |
| hichihara | amotoki: +1 | 14:28 |
| amotoki | my busy time on internal affairs got over today, so I can promise to clean them up. | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | thanks amotoki :-) | 14:28 |
| hichihara | cool | 14:28 |
| amotoki | i don't know the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/subnet-onboard | 14:29 |
| amotoki | reedip: around? | 14:29 |
| jlibosva | it has this patch attached that's been untouched for a while: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348080/ | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, doesn't look very promising for q-3 | 14:31 |
| jlibosva | I have a feeling it won't meet the q3 :) | 14:31 |
| amotoki | yeah, indeed | 14:31 |
| amotoki | re versioned object, i think we can check the status to ihar in the next week meeting | 14:32 |
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| jlibosva | sounds good | 14:33 |
| jlibosva | anything else BPs related? | 14:33 |
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| jlibosva | let's move on then | 14:33 |
| jlibosva | #topic Bugs | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:33 | |
| jlibosva | the bug deputy was hichihara | 14:34 |
| hichihara | I was bug deputy last week | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | he sent an email with report | 14:34 |
| hichihara | I reported some bugs in ML http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126206.html | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126206.html | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | ah, thanks :) | 14:35 |
| hichihara | jlibosva: thanks | 14:35 |
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| hichihara | Three high priority bugs | 14:35 |
| hichihara | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1741954 | 14:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741954 in neutron "create_and_list_trunk_subports rally scenario failed with timeouts" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio) | 14:35 |
| hichihara | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1742401 | 14:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742401 in neutron "Fullstack tests neutron.tests.fullstack.test_securitygroup.TestSecurityGroupsSameNetwork fails often" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:35 |
| hichihara | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1741889 | 14:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741889 in neutron "functional: DbAddCommand sometimes times out after 10 seconds" [High,New] | 14:35 |
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| hichihara | There was no critical bug. | 14:36 |
| jlibosva | the first one already has a fix that got almost merge | 14:36 |
| jlibosva | I think it only failed because of conflict | 14:36 |
| jlibosva | and the last two seem like caused by the same thing | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | oh, sorry, ignore me :) | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | I clicked on a wrong link | 14:37 |
| hichihara | Last one is no assignee | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | maybe otherwiseguy can help us with the last one 1741889 | 14:38 |
| hichihara | good | 14:39 |
| slaweq | about 1742401 I didn't have too much time to check it yet | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | it was mentioned during last week's CI meeting | 14:39 |
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| slaweq | but I will work on it | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | worth to mention that sometimes the last one causes functional job to get stuck and then it times out on a global timeout | 14:39 |
| jlibosva | slaweq: ok, thanks :) | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | I'll talk to otherwiseguy | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | thanks jlibosva | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | garyk is the bug deputy for this week | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | I saw an email that he'd like to get a backup on Friday | 14:41 |
| hichihara | mlavalle: Could you check a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1742093 ? It's about vm-without-l3-address. | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742093 in neutron "ip_allocation attribute is not accessible over REST requests" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:41 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: i just sent a mail | 14:41 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: cool, thanks :) | 14:41 |
| amotoki | i will cover from this friday | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | hichihara: will do | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks | 14:42 |
| hichihara | mlavalle: Thanks :) | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | we're quite short on time so let's move on | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Starter Approved RFEs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:42 | |
| jlibosva | we still have the one rfe there so please consider it, probably for Rocky :) | 14:43 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1653932 | 14:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:43 |
| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:43 | |
| jlibosva | I don't see boden around, amotoki do you want to give any updates? | 14:43 |
| amotoki | nothing from me on docs | 14:43 |
| jlibosva | ok, let's move on unless anybody has anything docs related | 14:43 |
| jlibosva | #topic Transition to OSC | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Transition to OSC (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:44 | |
| jlibosva | amotoki: hello again :) | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | any updates here? | 14:44 |
| amotoki | OSC VPNaaS integration has been merged :) | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | \o/ | 14:44 |
| amotoki | in addition, several patches are close to merge. | 14:44 |
| amotoki | it is nice if some of you look at them https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-neutronclient+branch:master | 14:45 |
| amotoki | with +2 patch | 14:45 |
| amotoki | that's all from me. | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: I will take a look | 14:46 |
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| amotoki | is there anything else to raise? | 14:46 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: thanks for updates, I think we're good to move on | 14:47 |
| amotoki | slaweq: sorry for my late. I will check you OSC patch https://review.openstack.org/515401 | 14:47 |
| slaweq | amotoki: thx | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | hoangcx_: so the VPNaaS patch was taken care of while I was sleeping | 14:47 |
| slaweq | no problem | 14:47 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: Yeah, yamamoto took care | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | he probably read our conversation of last nigh (my time) | 14:48 |
| jlibosva | ok, we have 10 minutes left | 14:49 |
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| jlibosva | anything else to osc related? | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | moving on | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | #topic Neutron-lib | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Neutron-lib (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:50 | |
| jlibosva | as boden is around, does anybody have any updates or anything related to the lib? | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | I have something to say, hang on a sec | 14:51 |
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| mlavalle | boden has a group of neutron-lib patches classified as requiring neutron core input: | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/message:%22NeutronCoreInputNeeded%22 | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | I took a stab at them over the past few days | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | but if other cores have time, please give feedback | 14:53 |
| * mlavalle doesn't want to lead boden off the rails alone :-) | 14:53 | |
| hichihara | will do | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have on this regard | 14:54 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks :) | 14:54 |
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| amotoki | note that neutron-lib freeze is this week | 14:55 |
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| amotoki | just FYI | 14:55 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: do you know exact date? | 14:55 |
| jlibosva | or day :) | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: we released last week | 14:55 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: i don't know the exact day but it is usually Thursday | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | and I don't think we need another one | 14:56 |
| jlibosva | aha, ok, thanks | 14:56 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: yes, I agree | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | however, point take amotoki and I will check again with boden | 14:56 |
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| jlibosva | I don't see any topic in the on demand agenda section on the wiki page | 14:58 |
| jlibosva | and we're running out of time | 14:58 |
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| jlibosva | so maybe if there is something needed to be discussed, we could do it in the #openstack-neutron channel? | 14:58 |
| jlibosva | #topic Free discussion | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: do we release neutron python client this week? | 14:58 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: I am okay with either, but it seems better to release it | 14:59 |
| amotoki | I can prepare it | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: ok, let's coordinate with armax this week | 14:59 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: sure | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | that's all | 14:59 |
| jlibosva | aaaand we're out of time :) thanks everybody for coming | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 15:00:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-01-16-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-01-16-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-01-16-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:00 |
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| slaweq | thx | 15:00 |
| annp | see you | 15:00 |
| amotoki | thanks bye | 15:00 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 15:00:55 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 15:01 |
| alisanhaji | Hi | 15:01 |
| fouadben | Hi all | 15:01 |
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| slaweq | please give me one minute and I will be back | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:02 |
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| slaweq | ok, I'm back | 15:04 |
| slaweq | let's start | 15:04 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:04 | |
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| slaweq | we have still couple approved RFEs | 15:05 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:05 |
| slaweq | there is nothing new with this one | 15:05 |
| slaweq | not assigned to anyone | 15:05 |
| slaweq | so if anyone would be interested in doing that, would be great :) | 15:06 |
| slaweq | next one #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:06 |
| slaweq | it's waiting for next cycle as we decided some time ago with mlavalle | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | correct | 15:07 |
| slaweq | but ralonsoh did some patches related to it | 15:07 |
| slaweq | and he pushed placement api client to neutron-lib | 15:07 |
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| slaweq | one patch is already merged: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511936/ | 15:07 |
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| slaweq | and second is in review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512396/ | 15:07 |
| slaweq | so please review it if You will have some time | 15:08 |
| slaweq | next is almost done: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:08 |
| slaweq | only docs and tempest tests are still in review | 15:08 |
| slaweq | tempest tests are marked as WIP so I didn't review it yet | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | I will take a look at the tempest tests | 15:09 |
| slaweq | docs are almost ready IMO | 15:09 |
| slaweq | ok, thx mlavalle | 15:09 |
| slaweq | next is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Ali Sanhaji (ali-sanhaji) | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | that is my impresion also | 15:10 |
| alisanhaji | I just rebased for this one | 15:10 |
| alisanhaji | after raryk comment | 15:10 |
| alisanhaji | garyk | 15:10 |
| slaweq | great that it's not only for me :) | 15:11 |
| slaweq | alisanhaji: yes, thx a lot | 15:11 |
| alisanhaji | no need to :) | 15:11 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501267/ if You will have some time | 15:12 |
| slaweq | I will check it today or tomorrow also | 15:12 |
| slaweq | I hope it can be merged finally soon :) | 15:12 |
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| alisanhaji | yes me too | 15:12 |
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| slaweq | alisanhaji: I saw that garyk gave +1 already :) | 15:13 |
| * mlavalle will take a loom also | 15:13 | |
| alisanhaji | yes just saw it too | 15:13 |
| slaweq | ok, and the last (but not least) one is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:14 |
| slaweq | there is specs proposed for it already: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531074/ | 15:14 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: again, please add it to Your review list :) | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | this RFE was approved last drivers meeting | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | so the spec is timely | 15:15 |
| slaweq | :) | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | there was some doubts from yamamoto about how that would be implemented | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | so if you can give some guidance, slaweq, it would be very usful | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | I mean from your QoS perspective | 15:17 |
| slaweq | from QoS point of view it looks like it can be some beginning of classful bw limits | 15:17 |
| slaweq | as I understand it, there will be rules based on src/dest IP addresses added in router's namespace | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | cool, please provide that guidance in the spec | 15:17 |
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| slaweq | yes, I was already reviewing it once or twice | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:17 |
| slaweq | I will check it also this week | 15:18 |
| slaweq | ok, so that was all RFEs which I had for today | 15:18 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 15:19 |
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| slaweq | fortunately there is not too many bugs reported for QoS :) | 15:19 |
| slaweq | first one is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1662109 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662109 in neutron "tempest scenario test_qos fails intermittently" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:19 |
| slaweq | I still can't check if this is still an issue in gate - I didn't found it in my tests and logstash query for it is still not working IMO | 15:20 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: we talked about that some time ago :) | 15:20 |
| slaweq | do You remember? | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:21 |
| slaweq | can we maybe check it this week once again? | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:21 |
| slaweq | ok, thx | 15:21 |
| slaweq | I will ping You later | 15:21 |
| slaweq | next one: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1737892 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1737892 in neutron "Fullstack test test_qos.TestBwLimitQoSOvs.test_bw_limit_qos_port_removed failing many times" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:22 |
| slaweq | patch for this one is almost merged | 15:22 |
| slaweq | in fact it is not an issue in QoS code but in ovs agent | 15:23 |
| slaweq | I will probably add also similar fullstack test for DSCP marking rule as such rule can be also not removed when port is removed from bridge | 15:23 |
| slaweq | ah, and patch related to this bug is on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533318/ | 15:24 |
| slaweq | any questions/suggestions so far? | 15:25 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: alisanhaji: still here? :) | 15:27 |
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| mlavalle | yes | 15:27 |
| alisanhaji | yes | 15:27 |
| fouadben | y | 15:27 |
| slaweq | should I continue? | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | please go ahead | 15:27 |
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| slaweq | ok | 15:27 |
| alisanhaji | I am following | 15:27 |
| slaweq | so if there is no questions then next bug | 15:28 |
| slaweq | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1736792 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1736792 in neutron "DSCP marking QOS policy applied to port not properly updating OVS flow table" [Medium,New] | 15:28 |
| slaweq | for me it is duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1739411 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739411 in neutron "QoS DSCP mark disappear stable/ocata" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pavlukhin Max (mpavlukhin) | 15:28 |
| slaweq | and I would mark if as duplicate | 15:28 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: do You agree? | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | mhhh, hang on.... | 15:28 |
| slaweq | sure | 15:28 |
| mlavalle | yes, I agree | 15:29 |
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| slaweq | ok, so I will close it after meeting | 15:29 |
| slaweq | so about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1739411 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739411 in neutron "QoS DSCP mark disappear stable/ocata" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pavlukhin Max (mpavlukhin) | 15:30 |
| slaweq | there is already proposed patch: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529315/ | 15:30 |
| slaweq | but there is no response from author for it | 15:30 |
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| slaweq | I will try to catch him and ask if he can continue this work | 15:30 |
| slaweq | or I will handle it | 15:30 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq check progress on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529315/ | 15:31 |
| slaweq | next is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724729 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1724729 in neutron "ovs-lib not support qos type egress-policer for ovs-dpdk" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:31 |
| slaweq | and patch is waiting for review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513398/ | 15:32 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: thx for Your review last week | 15:32 |
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| slaweq | I changed units according to Your comments as it's in fact different for dpdk ports :) | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, I was surprised by that | 15:33 |
| slaweq | me too | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | I don't know why they decided to do it that way | 15:33 |
| slaweq | me neighter | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | I will take a look again today | 15:33 |
| slaweq | and I was double checking that it's differently for dpdk ports and for "normal" ports | 15:33 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | on the other hand, their doc is pretty good | 15:34 |
| slaweq | yes, everything is described there quite clearly | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | or blog entry or whatever it is | 15:34 |
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| slaweq | next one is our "old friend": #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1639186 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639186 in neutron "qos max bandwidth rules not working for neutron trunk ports" [Low,Confirmed] | 15:35 |
| slaweq | there is no volunteer to work on it still | 15:35 |
| slaweq | so nothing new | 15:35 |
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| slaweq | and the last one on my list for today is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732852 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732852 in neutron "neutron don't support Router gateway rate limit " [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:36 |
| slaweq | there is also nothing new here | 15:36 |
| slaweq | I don't have time for it still :/ | 15:37 |
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| slaweq | and as it is documented how it should be configured to make it working I think it's not high priority now | 15:38 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:38 |
| slaweq | so that are all bugs which I have for You today | 15:39 |
| slaweq | any questions? | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | none from me | 15:39 |
| alisanhaji | no questions | 15:39 |
| slaweq | so last topic in agenda is | 15:40 |
| slaweq | #topic Open Discussion | 15:40 |
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| slaweq | I don't have anything here | 15:40 |
| fouadben | I would like to discuss a new spec that I proposed with alisanhaji for congestion reaction in overlay networks using neutron qos policy. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534213/2 | 15:40 |
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| fouadben | A previous version was proposed by reedip to activate ECN in openstack network and routers. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762/ | 15:41 |
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| slaweq | so it is continuation of reedip's work? | 15:42 |
| fouadben | We can see that. | 15:42 |
| fouadben | So, this one proposes new qos policy that handles the congestion in all phases, starting by ensuring ECN activation because it’s essential to congestion detection, going through the congestion calculation. Finally we react to the congestion if it exceeded the defined threshold using bandwidth limit qos rule. | 15:42 |
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| slaweq | so You want to change bandwidth limit rules dynamically when it is necessary? | 15:44 |
| fouadben | Yes, we use the bandwidth limit rule dynamically en ensure that the source of congestion reduced its traffic, then we release it if the congestion goes below | 15:45 |
| slaweq | so source VM will don't need to know about this ECN and don't need to support it | 15:46 |
| slaweq | as it will be "supported" by Neutron's QoS rules, right? | 15:46 |
| slaweq | fouadben: I will read this spec this week and will left comments there | 15:47 |
| fouadben | This solution enfore the ECN activation what ever the VM OS configuration. Everything starts out of the VM. | 15:47 |
| fouadben | Thanks slaweq | 15:47 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:47 |
| alisanhaji | slaweq: yes that's it, the VM doesn't need to know about ECN | 15:47 |
| slaweq | that is good :) | 15:48 |
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| slaweq | I think that You will also need to fill RFE bug about that | 15:48 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: right? | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | yes, I think so | 15:48 |
| fouadben | Already pub https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 | 15:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 15:48 |
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| mlavalle | ok, I will look at it soon | 15:49 |
| slaweq | ah, I didn't saw it linked as related-bug in commit message in specs so I thought it's not done yet | 15:49 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 15:49 |
| slaweq | and thx fouadben and alisanhaji for this proposal :) | 15:49 |
| fouadben | y welcome | 15:50 |
| slaweq | anything else? | 15:50 |
| alisanhaji | none from me | 15:50 |
| slaweq | if not we can finish earlier today :) | 15:50 |
| fouadben | no | 15:50 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: do You have anything else to add? | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | nope | 15:51 |
| slaweq | ok, so thanks everyone | 15:51 |
| mlavalle | thanks for chairing this meeting, slaweq :-) | 15:51 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 15:51:49 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-01-16-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| alisanhaji | Yes thanks slaweq ! | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-01-16-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-01-16-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 16:01:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
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| slaweq | hi | 16:01 |
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| ihrachys | heya | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:02 |
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| haleyb | hi | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | (I think the first one that was on me since it's overridden by another AI) | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | next is "mlavalle to follow up with stadium projects on switching to new tempest repo" | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | I did follow up with vpnaas and midonet | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | they are on board with the move | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | eh wait :) | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | are we talking the same thing? | 16:03 |
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| mlavalle | I think the patches from the gentleman leading this have to be updated | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | oh ok we DO talk the same thing | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | I figured the AI was not worded unambiguously :) | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 16:04 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | I made sure yamamoto and hoangcx keep and eye on the respective patches | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | for the record, we are talking about switching imports in other stadium repos to neutron-tempest-plugin, then killing neutron in-tree remaining tempest bits from neutron.tests.tempest | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | correct | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, keep an eye or follow up / update? | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | I am not sure chandankumar is going to follow up on those patches | 16:05 |
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| mlavalle | ok, do they have to continue with the respective patches | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | ? | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | I was thinking that yes, they would take over / drive to merge | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | ok, I will talk to them again tonight | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | for what I understand, chandankumar spearheads several initiatives and projects and may not have equal time for all patches | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | pl great | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | *ok great | 16:06 |
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| mlavalle | cool, since I saw the chandankumar was pushing the patches I thought he was going to continue with them | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to follow up with stadium projects on taking over / merge patches to switch imports to new tempest repo | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | oh if he was active recently that's another story. I haven't seen it, probably happened the latest week. | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | will do | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | ok next was "ihrachys to report bug for dvr scenario job timeouts and try concurrency increase" | 16:07 |
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| mlavalle | nevermind. I'll have the stadium guys take over | 16:08 |
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| ihrachys | we merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532261/ the bug report was https://launchpad.net/bugs/1742200 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742200 in neutron "dvr scenario job fails with timeouts" [High,Fix released] | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | we will revisit whether it helped in grafana section | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | "ihrachys to report bug for mtu scenario not executed for linuxbridge job" | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1742197 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742197 in neutron "linuxbridge scenario job doesn't execute NetworkMtuBaseTest" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 16:09 |
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| ihrachys | and there is already a fix in review for that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532406/ though it relies on plugin to support mtu-writable extension | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | I also tried https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532259/ but figured that vlan type driver is not working in gate | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | so for linuxbridge we are left with flat and vxlan to pick from | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | (well, I *assume* flat works, I haven't checked) | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | in light of this, I guess mtu-writable approach is the best | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | ok, the last item was "slaweq to take over sec group failure in fullstack (report bug / triage / fix)" | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | that was in regards to failure as in http://logs.openstack.org/43/529143/3/check/neutron-fullstack/d031a6b/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I only reported it on launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1742401 | 16:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742401 in neutron "Fullstack tests neutron.tests.fullstack.test_securitygroup.TestSecurityGroupsSameNetwork fails often" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I didn't had time to work on it | 16:12 |
| slaweq | because I was fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1737892 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1737892 in neutron "Fullstack test test_qos.TestBwLimitQoSOvs.test_bw_limit_qos_port_removed failing many times" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:12 |
| slaweq | I hope I will work on this issue with SG this week | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | great! thanks for taking it. | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | we'll have a look at fullstack patches after briefly checking grafana | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:13 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | reminder that we switched to non-legacy job names on the board where applicable: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532632/ | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | we need to check whether all boards still work as intended | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | there are several boards there right now (coverage, grenade) that don't have any datapoints | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | all for gate queue | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | I suspect it's because no failure hits happened for those jobs | 16:14 |
| haleyb | that's usually the reason | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | yeah, I think that's a reasonable explanation for coverage | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | for grenade, it wouldn't be the case but the update for the dashboard is quite fresh | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | I mean, tempest / grenade fail from time to time | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | so long term we should expect some failing data points\ | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | so I guess let's give it a week or two before paniching | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | *panicking | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | in the meantime, we have check queue for grenade jobs so we can still spot issues | 16:16 |
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| ihrachys | looking at other dashboards, fullstack is steady 80%, scenario dvr is 30% (I think we had it like that before) | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | linuxbridge scenario spiked to 100% | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | and I found out it's a recent logapi service plugin patch that broke it | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | because we now enable log l2 extension for linuxbridge despite it not being compatible with the agent | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | I have a fix here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533799/ | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, it now has ci results so maybe you can bump vote | 16:19 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: I just +W | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | there is still more work for the bug, but I will let others to fix that | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | I left the bug opened | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, thanks | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | I also notice there is a spike in failure rate for functional | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | both check and gate queues | 16:21 |
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| ihrachys | 30% in gate, 40% in check queues | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | anyone aware of what's that about? | 16:21 |
| jlibosva | perhaps the AddBridge issue? | 16:22 |
| slaweq | isn't it related to this issue with connections to ovs? | 16:22 |
| jlibosva | I saw a functional test stuck today again | 16:22 |
| jlibosva | but I haven't check how often it happens | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1741889 ? | 16:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741889 in neutron "functional: DbAddCommand sometimes times out after 10 seconds" [High,New] | 16:22 |
| jlibosva | yep | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, issue with connections? what's that? | 16:22 |
| slaweq | this one which You just posted | 16:23 |
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| slaweq | sorry | 16:23 |
| jlibosva | I promised today I'll ask otherwiseguy for help, I haven't got to it yet | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, oh I see you referred to ovs log messages there with connection failures | 16:23 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:23 |
| slaweq | but it's this one, right? | 16:23 |
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| slaweq | or I mixed something? | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, that would be nice to get otherwiseguy on it because it's really painful and we don't seem to have a path forward. there was another bug that he was going to look into. | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1687074 | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1687074 in neutron "Sometimes ovsdb fails with "tcp:127.0.0.1:6640: error parsing stream"" [High,Confirmed] | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | I think we usually spot those stream errors in tests that fail with retries | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | so can be related | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, yeah I think it's this one | 16:24 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:24 |
| slaweq | thx for confirmation | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | I think there was a patch for stream issue somewhere.. | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | looking | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | ok it was not really a fix, just debug statements: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525775/4/neutron/agent/common/ovs_lib.py | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | I think Terry triggered a failure with the patch and got ": RuntimeError: Port nonexistantport does not exist" from ovs socket. | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | which is very weird | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | it's definitely neutron error | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | so how is it possible it results in ovsdb socket | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | maybe eventlet screwing up file descriptors somehow | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | well actually, maybe I assume too much saying it's a neutron issue | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | I mean, neutron error, sorry | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | but anyway, jlibosva is going to reach out to Terry. please mention both bugs since they are arguably related. | 16:29 |
| jlibosva | yep, will do | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to talk to otherwiseguy about making progress for functional ovsdb issues (timeouts, retries, stream parsing failures) | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | thanks! | 16:30 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, you mentioned a functional job being stuck. I believe you mean http://logs.openstack.org/99/533799/1/check/neutron-functional/990c856/ | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | do you think it can be related to ovsdb issues, or there is more to it? | 16:30 |
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| jlibosva | yep, that's it http://logs.openstack.org/99/533799/1/check/neutron-functional/990c856/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-01-15_23_30_49_840378 | 16:31 |
| jlibosva | I mean, that's what I meant | 16:31 |
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| ihrachys | so it's just a random kill | 16:32 |
| jlibosva | last job I checked, there was a 1.5GB large log file containing output of one particular test and it was full of TRY_AGAIN messages | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, aha that's a good sign that it's same issue | 16:32 |
| jlibosva | now I wonder why timeout per test wasn't triggered | 16:32 |
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| ihrachys | right | 16:32 |
| jlibosva | maybe it didn't switch greenthreads | 16:33 |
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| jlibosva | or we have an issue there | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | yeah. does anyone have cycles to check why the job timed out? or we just leave it at it while we figure out ovsdb issue | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | ok let's leave it for now and revisit if it happens more | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:34 |
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| jlibosva | I can check it | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | well ok :) | 16:35 |
| jlibosva | I believe it will be the TRY_AGAIN :) | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to check why functional job times out globally instead of triggering a local test case timeout for TRY_AGAIN ovsdb issue | 16:35 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, a lot of pointers to it maybe being the case of eventlet running amok | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | anyway, back to fullstack | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | slaweq was doing amazing job lately tackling failures we have one by one | 16:36 |
| slaweq | but slowly :) | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | the latest fix for qos dscp bug is https://review.openstack.org/533318 | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | and it's already +W, just need to get it merged | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | there was a concern during review that l2 extension manager may bubble up exceptions from extensions | 16:38 |
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| ihrachys | how do we tackle that? I guess the least reporting a low priority bug? | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | anyone willing to chew it beyond that? | 16:38 |
| slaweq | I can report it | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | go for it! | 16:38 |
| slaweq | but I don't know if I will have time to propose fix soon | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | #action slaweq to report a bug about l2 ext manager not catching exceptions from extensions | 16:39 |
| slaweq | ok, I will report it today | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | that's fine | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | just don't assign yourself if you don't plan to work on a fix, and someone should pick it up eventually | 16:39 |
| slaweq | sure | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | ok. apart from this fix, do we have anything in review that would help the job? | 16:40 |
| slaweq | I want to mention that patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1733649 was also merged few days ago | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733649 in neutron "fullstack neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failure" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Gary Kotton (garyk) | 16:40 |
| slaweq | so I hope it will be better now | 16:40 |
| slaweq | I will check if for few days and will remove "unstable_test" decorator if all will be fine | 16:40 |
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| ihrachys | fullstack is still steady 80% so I guess other issues are more frequent to fail to mitigate the fix impact | 16:41 |
| slaweq | and I will also propose this fix for stable branches then | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, oh you mean the test that was ignored. ok. | 16:41 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: yes | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | ok taking one of the fresh runs for fullstack: http://logs.openstack.org/99/533799/1/check/neutron-fullstack/f827430/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | I noticed this agent restart test started failing too often in the job | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | often it's the only failure | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | so I suspect tackling this one should drop failure rate significantly | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | I don't think we ever reported the bug for the failure | 16:42 |
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| jlibosva | uhm, shall we mark it as unstable to get some better failure rate? :) | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | maybe. after reporting a bug at least | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | I checked ovs agent logs for the test | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | the only suspicious one is this agent (there are 4 logs total there): http://logs.openstack.org/99/533799/1/check/neutron-fullstack/f827430/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestUninterruptedConnectivityOnL2AgentRestart.test_l2_agent_restart_OVS,VLANs,openflow-native_/neutron-openvswitch-agent--2018-01-15--21-43-21-502569.txt.gz?level=WARNING | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | 2018-01-15 21:45:49.869 28570 ERROR neutron.plugins.ml2.drivers.openvswitch.agent.openflow.native.br_int RuntimeError: ofctl request version=None,msg_type=None,msg_len=None,xid=None,OFPFlowStatsRequest(cookie=0,cookie_mask=0,flags=0,match=OFPMatch(oxm_fields={}),out_group=4294967295,out_port=4294967295,table_id=23,type=1) error Datapath Invalid 90269446452558 | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | and then later | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | 2018-01-15 21:45:49.942 28570 WARNING neutron.plugins.ml2.drivers.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [req-f3915075-576d-4155-86c3-c2272e53a1d8 - - - - -] OVS is dead. OVSNeutronAgent will keep running and checking OVS status periodically. | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | there are some log messages in ovsdb server log like: 2018-01-15T21:45:33.394Z|00012|reconnect|ERR|tcp:127.0.0.1:59162: no response to inactivity probe after 5 seconds, disconnecting | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | what's the probe? | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | is it ovsdb server talking to ryu? | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | like checking if controller is still there? | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | I think that's ovsdb talking to manager | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | or rather vice-versa | 16:48 |
| slaweq | this ovsdb log is very similar like in stucked functional tests IMHO | 16:48 |
| slaweq | maybe it's related somehow? | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | it's more related to native ovsdb interface than openflow | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, maybe it's always like that :) | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, yeah sorry mixed things | 16:48 |
| slaweq | maybe, I don't know | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | anyway... I will report a bug for that. I may dedicate some time to dig it too. | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to report bug for l2 agent restart fullstack failures and dig it | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | #topic Scenarios | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scenarios (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:50 | |
| ihrachys | haleyb, I saw some activity on dvr bugs that lingered scenarios. any updates? | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | or was it something else... I think I saw Swami posting something but now I don't. | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | I guess I dreamt | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | anyway, if anything this is the bug that affected us for a while: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717302 | 16:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | it's on Brian but there seems to be no fixes or updates since Dec | 16:52 |
| mlavalle | if haleyb is not around, I can bring it up in the L3 meeting this coming Thursday | 16:53 |
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| ihrachys | yeah please do | 16:53 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to bring up floating ip failures in dvr scenario job to l3 team | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | I am looking at a fresh run | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/60/532460/1/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario/bf95db0/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | see the trunk test failed | 16:54 |
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| ihrachys | I don't think it's reported | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | anyone up for the job to report it or maybe even having a look? | 16:55 |
| jlibosva | that might be fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531414/1 | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | ack! | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | #topic Rally | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rally (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:56 | |
| ihrachys | we had https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1741954 raised a while ago | 16:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741954 in neutron "create_and_list_trunk_subports rally scenario failed with timeouts" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Armando Migliaccio (armando-migliaccio) | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | this is mostly to update folks that we have a fix for that here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532045/ | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | (well, it's kinda a fix, it's just optimization) | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | I think we started hitting more timeouts and perf issues since meltdown patching in infra / clouds we use | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | but the patch should help one of those instance | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | *instances | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | #topic Gate | 16:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:57 | |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, I recollect you were going to follow up on remaining legacy- jobs in neutron gate that we figured out are still present and not converted to new format | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | any progress? | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | (like tempest py3) | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | didn't have time this past week | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | I will do it over the next few days | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to transit remaining legacy- jobs to new format | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | gotcha, that's ok, not pressing! | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok we are out of time | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | it's always pretty packed this meeting riiiight? :) | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | that's good | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok thanks everyone | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:59 | |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: you lead it well | 16:59 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:59 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 16:59:43 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-01-16-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-01-16-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-01-16-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
| slaweq | see You next week :) | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: keep us on out toes ;-) | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | our^^^ | 17:00 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, it's morning, I am trying to keep myself not asleep :) | 17:00 |
| slaweq | lucky You ihrachys :) | 17:00 |
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| jlibosva | what are you talking about? it's getting late :) | 17:01 |
| slaweq | jlibosva: exactly :) | 17:01 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, they say there is that thing called time zones. not sure what they are talking about, but worth a check. | 17:02 |
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| jlibosva | I don't believe them, I have my own conspiracy theory | 17:03 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 18:00:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:00 |
| lamt` | o/ | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:00 |
| spilla | O/ | 18:00 |
| kmalloc | bah i need more coffee. | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | pretty light agenda today | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | so we can give folks a few minutes to show up | 18:01 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | alright - let's get started | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcements: non-client library freeze | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: non-client library freeze (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:04 | |
| lbragstad | just a reminder that this week is going to be non-client library freeze | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | so, keystonemiddleware, keystoneauth, oslo libraries, etc... | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | if you're looking for things to review, those would be high priority | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | #topic announcements: client freeze | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: client freeze (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:05 | |
| lbragstad | ^ that is going to be next week, which is also going to be feature freeze | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | and we do have three big efforts still in flight (excluding the documentation work) | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | application credentials | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/application-credentials | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | unified limits | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/unified-limits | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | and system scope | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/system-scope | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | there are a bunch of things to review there, so there's no shortage of reviews | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | any questions or concerns regarding what we have in flight? | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | cool - moving on then | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | #topic core adjustments | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "core adjustments (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:07 | |
| lbragstad | our current core team isn't really reflective of the current state of things | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | i've been in touch with a few members and the decision was mutual to remove a couple | 18:08 |
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| kmalloc | be sure to send the removals to the ML as well :) | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | today I'll be removing stevemar and bknudson from keystone core | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | and btopol from keystone specs core | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: ++ | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | i don't think any of them are hanging around in IRC, but i personally appreciate everything they've done for the project | 18:10 |
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| lbragstad | and it'll suck to see them go | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | but on a lighter note | 18:10 |
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| lbragstad | I'm happy to announce that we'll be adding gagehugo to keystone-core! | 18:10 |
| cmurphy | yay gagehugo \o/ | 18:11 |
| lamt` | grats | 18:11 |
| jessegler | yay \o/ | 18:11 |
| gagehugo | thanks everyone | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | he's been doing some great work and picking up a lot of slack to keep us moving forward | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | which is awesome, thanks for all your hard work gagehugo | 18:11 |
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| knikolla | congrats! keep up the good work \o/ | 18:12 |
| gagehugo | happy to help :) | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | i'm glad we're making this change prior to the release going into RC | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | i think it will make a difference and help with the review queue | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | alright - moving on | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | #topic Rocky community goals | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | just a heads up in case anyone hasn't seen it yet | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532627/1 | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | but that's a proposal for one of the community goals - which will impact keystone given our complex history with pagination | 18:14 |
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| kmalloc | and i'll still -2 pagination changes that require it in keystone | 18:14 |
| kmalloc | ftr | 18:14 |
| kmalloc | for things that hit ldap things. | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: you'll need to weigh in on the community goal | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | i highlight it a bit in a comment, but more context would be good | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | (i also know we have the pagination discussion scattered everywhere) | 18:15 |
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| kmalloc | i'm going to let you proxy our concerns to a consistent voice. | 18:15 |
| kmalloc | but basically users cannot be paginated. | 18:15 |
| kmalloc | and ... i think roles. | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | anything that has to read from ldap can't be paginated... | 18:15 |
| kmalloc | yep | 18:15 |
| kmalloc | otherwise i will say pagination is a terrible design and never works like people expect, but users / ldap backed data is a hard -2, regardless of community goals | 18:16 |
| kmalloc | everything else, if someone signs up to write it, i'll at least review it and not -1/-2 because i dislike the design | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | i was thinking about this a bit, but we wouldn't be able to work around that technical requirement while keeping keystone stateless | 18:17 |
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| kmalloc | pretty much. | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | ok - i can follow up with mordred about that | 18:17 |
| kmalloc | keystone always has "special" cases | 18:17 |
| kmalloc | it is part of just how we're designed | 18:17 |
| kmalloc | also... pagination is not guaranteed consistent even with SQL because we are stateless | 18:18 |
| kmalloc | which is why the design is so bad. but, whatever | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | ... so won't that affect every project that uses SQL? | 18:18 |
| kmalloc | as long as we communicate "pagination doesn't work like you think" in docs for the things not ldap backed, we're good. | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | and not just keystone? | 18:18 |
| kmalloc | it will. | 18:18 |
| kmalloc | i always use the "how many pages deep in google do you look when looking at items" | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | and no one goes beyond page 2 | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | this is why pagination doesn't work. | 18:19 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: i think you should bring this up on the goal review | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | search/filter. | 18:19 |
| gagehugo | things get weird after page 2 | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | i've heard people argue the exact opposite | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | but like i said, ldap is the only bit that is a hard -2 and that is because of active cursors and non-deterministic ordering | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | that they can't write filters specific enough to get what they want out of the first page | 18:19 |
| gagehugo | cmurphy ++ | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | the rest, i don't have the energy to argue the rest and we should just communicate it in docs | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | and expect people to complain it's bad :P | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | we already mostly lost the argument. | 18:20 |
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| lbragstad | what would be required to make it so sql always returns the same result? | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | database migrations? | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | something MySQL doesn't do well. | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | views. | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | most things you end up doing is creating a temp view of the data for referencing for a series of requests. | 18:22 |
| kmalloc | would eb the oracle method | 18:22 |
| kmalloc | then you can have a consistent response for a set of data referenced in the request vs a list that changes behind the scenes if say a project is deletec and shifts the elements on a page | 18:23 |
| kmalloc | over a refresh | 18:23 |
| kmalloc | so, basically not an argument worth having. | 18:24 |
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| kmalloc | but LDAP cannot support pagination for keystone | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | hmm | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | yeah - we need to voice this on the goal | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | i can follow up afterwords and do that | 18:25 |
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| kmalloc | the only thing i recommend commenting on the goal is the user bit. | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | that's the hard requirement | 18:25 |
| kmalloc | yep. | 18:25 |
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| lbragstad | because in order to do that, keystone would have to be stateless | 18:25 |
| ayoung | Lets make Keystone stateless! | 18:26 |
| kmalloc | stateful and communicate cursors across multiple projects | 18:26 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: I really think it would be worth it to comment on the goal with all your concerns, saying it's not an argument worth having means that the argument is never heard | 18:26 |
| kmalloc | s/projects/processes | 18:26 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: i've had the argument multip[le times. i am voicing history here | 18:26 |
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| kmalloc | i really don't want to start down that path again. I want to make sure LDAP backed data is carved out | 18:26 |
| lbragstad | well - we will need to voice the concern in the goal before it is accepted | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | even if it is, we'll probably have to apply for an exception of some sort | 18:27 |
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| ayoung | Lets deprecate LDAP, spin it off to its own IdP thing | 18:28 |
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| cmurphy | ayoung: go for it, i'll review :) | 18:28 |
| kmalloc | sure. i'm not signing up to write that code though | 18:29 |
| ayoung | cmurphy, code is the easy part | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: so are you going to add your concerns to the goal review? | 18:31 |
| kmalloc | i can add the ldap bit, but thats really as far as i will go. | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | that's fine - thanks for doing that | 18:31 |
| ayoung | there was a bug filed recently about LDAP user-list being slow. I really want to find a way to tell people "you really don't want to do that" | 18:32 |
| ayoung | recently by my definition is post Folsom | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | that sounds like a PTG topic :) | 18:32 |
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| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:34 |
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| lbragstad | floor is open! | 18:34 |
| cmurphy | oh i was wondering about the ansible upgrade jobs we have | 18:34 |
| cmurphy | i don't think i've ever seen them passing | 18:34 |
| cmurphy | who owns those? | 18:34 |
| gagehugo | yeah they pass like 1/100 times it seems | 18:34 |
| cmurphy | lol not useful | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | those were put in place by the openstack ansible folks | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | but i think some changes happened around the infra changes that broke some of them | 18:35 |
| kmalloc | commented | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | cc evrardjp ^ | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | i can't remember if it was around the time we moved to Zuul or before that | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: thank you | 18:35 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: yeah "don't list users with LDAP... no really" but i think we should add a proper search API for users | 18:36 |
| cmurphy | i feel like it was right before | 18:36 |
| kmalloc | rather than telling people to "list and filter" | 18:36 |
| kmalloc | it can be a list/filter behind the scenes | 18:36 |
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| kmalloc | anyway... /me goes back to being the grumpy old core. | 18:36 |
| clarkb | lbragstad: it was before we moved to zuul | 18:36 |
| clarkb | er moved to zuulv3 | 18:37 |
| ayoung | kmalloc, the fact that it is a filter should be exoposed to the user, and the assumption of stateful pagination be explicitly expunged,. | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | yeah - it was solid at one point | 18:37 |
| kmalloc | ayoung: ++ YES. | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | but i think something happened there and I want to say it was around that time | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | (the time of switching over to zuul) | 18:37 |
| gagehugo | yeah it was around zuulv3 time | 18:37 |
| ayoung | @cmurphy, link to a common failing example that we can all look at? | 18:37 |
| cmurphy | ayoung: sure let me find one | 18:38 |
| cmurphy | http://logs.openstack.org/27/524927/21/check/openstack-ansible-keystone-rolling-upgrade/7f25e2b/ | 18:38 |
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| ayoung | task path: /home/zuul/.ansible/roles/os_previous_keystone/tasks/keystone_fernet_keys_create.yml:21 | 18:39 |
| ayoung | __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'scope_types'" | 18:40 |
| ayoung | I think that is a lbragstad issue to tackle | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | oslo.policy needs to be updated | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | it looks like they are testing master with older requirements | 18:41 |
| cmurphy | okay it sounds like it's easy to fix, i was wondering if there was a go-to person attending to them | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | odyssey4me, evrardjp, or cloudnull | 18:42 |
| cmurphy | i think that job was the only thing between us and the rolling-upgrade tag? | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | or andymccr | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | yeah - with one other stipulation | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | which was how the patches from review were applied to the environment | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | if patch A is proposed to master and has a Depends-On on patch B which is proposed to a stable branch, and both contain migrations of some sort, then it's possible to brick the migrations because patch B won't be installed in the setup | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | of the test environment by OSA | 18:44 |
| ayoung | that looks like it is a CLI param for keystone-manage. Did we drop something? | 18:44 |
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| gagehugo | possibly? | 18:47 |
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| mordred | kmalloc, lbragstad_: sorry I missed it earlier - but the pagination goal is "if a collection is paginated, pagination links should be returned" | 18:48 |
| mordred | kmalloc, lbragstad_: definitely not "add pagination to all resources" or anything | 18:49 |
| gagehugo | ah | 18:49 |
| lbragstad_ | mordred: ack - that helps | 18:49 |
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| lbragstad_ | sorry if i jumped to assumptions there | 18:49 |
| mordred | in which case - it might very well be a no-op :) | 18:49 |
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| mordred | no - it's a good question for sure! | 18:49 |
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| kmalloc | mordred: ++ | 18:50 |
| kmalloc | ok | 18:50 |
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| kmalloc | mordred: i was worried because we just can't paginate users w/o massive headaches | 18:50 |
| kmalloc | i'll recind my -1 and say you updated us | 18:50 |
| ayoung | mordred, LDAP and pagination has been a pain point since the mid 1990s | 18:51 |
| mordred | ++ | 18:51 |
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| mordred | I'm actually not a big fan of pagination for REST calls across the board - it makes things harder - but I also can somewhat understand the humans who desire such a thing | 18:52 |
| mordred | but pagination without pagination links is just the worst | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | cool - that clears things up then | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | anything else we want to go over before office hours starts in 6 minutes? | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: i think i dropped in the middle of the osa rolling upgrade discussion | 18:55 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: oh i don't think you missed much | 18:55 |
| cmurphy | if anything | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | ok | 18:56 |
| cmurphy | after feature freeze i can try to work on them and/or reach out to the osa people about it | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | they are usually super responsive to those things | 18:57 |
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| lbragstad | anything else? | 18:57 |
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| lbragstad | cool - thanks for coming | 18:57 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 18:57:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-01-16-18.00.html | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-01-16-18.00.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-01-16-18.00.log.html | 18:58 |
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| * fungi peers around | 19:00 | |
| clarkb | hello infra | 19:00 |
| ianw | hello hello | 19:00 |
| fungi | howdy, y'all! | 19:00 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | we have a fairly full agenda so I'm going to dive right in | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 16 19:01:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| tobiash | o/ | 19:01 |
| Zara | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
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| clarkb | #info clarkb and fungi missing January 23rd meeting due to travel. | 19:02 |
| clarkb | pabelanger and ianw have volunteered to run the meeting next week iirc. I'll let them sort out between themselves who wants to do it | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #info OpenDev focused on CI/CD happening April 26-27 in San Francisco | 19:02 |
| corvus | meetings can have co-chairs :) | 19:02 |
| clarkb | corvus: oh ya they can cochair too :) | 19:02 |
| fungi | cochise | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | Last year the openstack foundation had an "opendev" event in san francisco with a focus on edge computing. This year they are hosting a similar event with a focus on CI/CD | 19:03 |
| * mordred waves | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | If that is something you are interested in mark those dates on your calendar. Sounds like there should be good industry representation too so not openstack focused | 19:03 |
| corvus | it'll be nice to have folks there to talk about our experiences | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126192.html Vancouver Summit CFP open. Submit your papers and/or volunteer to be on the programming committee. | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | The OpenStack summit CFP has also opened. One of the tracks is CI so now is the time to propose papers and/or volunteer to sit on a programming committee | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | I think they are looking for people that have never been on a summit programming committee to volunteer so if you are interested you should go for it | 19:05 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005800.html Zuul has mailing lists | 19:05 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: I guess the OpenDev website isn't up to date, it doesn't mention the April dates | 19:05 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: ya I think we got the prerelease info on that | 19:05 |
| dmsimard | ok | 19:05 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: but I'm told the dates and rough location shouldn't change | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | I've added my name to volunteer for programming committee | 19:05 |
| fungi | dmsimard: aiui, they're still finalizing the venue contract | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | Zuul has mailing lists now. I just tested that sign up works and it does! | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | Do we know if there's a CFP or if they need help organizing ? Sounds like a great venue to advertise the work we do in OpenStack in terms of CI/CD | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | (Sorry for slightly sidetracking, didn't get time to reply when it was on-topic) | 19:06 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: I can ask for that info and pass it along | 19:06 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: its ok (we just have a large agenda so trying to keep moving) | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | ok, thanks | 19:06 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: I'll let them know that updates to the website with more info would be useful and ask about cfp | 19:06 |
| corvus | i'm on the opendev programming committee | 19:07 |
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| corvus | as of 3 hours ago | 19:07 |
| corvus | i'll be happy to keep this group updated | 19:08 |
| clarkb | awesome, thanks | 19:08 |
| dmsimard | corvus: grats :p | 19:08 |
| fungi | appreciated! | 19:08 |
| pabelanger | nice | 19:08 |
| corvus | we're having our first meeting friday, so probably more info after that? | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | There were none \o/ | 19:09 |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-01-09-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:09 |
| fungi | and a fine week it was | 19:09 |
| corvus | didn't i... | 19:09 |
| corvus | * corvus patchbomb project name removals from zuul.yaml | 19:09 |
| clarkb | oh did I read the wrong agenda? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | I may have opened the wrong link when I looked | 19:09 |
| corvus | i haven't done that, fwiw -- i decided with zuul going oom i should sit on that a bit. | 19:10 |
| corvus | maybe this friday... | 19:10 |
| clarkb | ya I must've | 19:10 |
| corvus | #action corvus patchbomb project name removals from zuul.yaml | 19:10 |
| clarkb | thanks | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005779.html Cleanup old specs. | 19:10 |
| clarkb | I sent mail about starting to cleanup some old specs and pinged others out of band for a couple others. Things have started moving on this. | 19:11 |
| clarkb | If you have input please send it in | 19:11 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531242/ IRC Bot Improvements | 19:11 |
| clarkb | fungi and I reviewed ^ last week. I think jeblair was hoping to put it up for a vote this week? | 19:11 |
| corvus | i haven't had a lot of input since last week's rfc | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | it seemed like a really well thought out and written spec | 19:12 |
| fungi | yeah, something did just dawn on me earlier today on that one too | 19:12 |
| corvus | does anyone want to delay another week for more collaboration, or should we vote? | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I'm comfortable with it as is, but more input would probably be good especially if fungi has new thoughts | 19:12 |
| corvus | (it's not urgent, but if we agree on a plan, it's very divisible, so we can pick of parts of it in parallel in our copious spare time) | 19:13 |
| fungi | wrt auto-kickbanning abusers based on spotting highlight spam, is there an easy way to differentiate it from when meeting chairs do the same to give people a heads up that a meeting's starting? or should we just get people out of that habit | 19:13 |
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| corvus | fungi: i feel like we can make that a tunable thing | 19:13 |
| clarkb | maybe whitelist the meeting bot and have it do it? | 19:13 |
| fungi | oh, maybe | 19:14 |
| clarkb | something like #notify fungi corvus clarkb | 19:14 |
| corvus | percentages could factor in -- also, we could be more generous for folks with registered nicks | 19:14 |
| fungi | anyway, not a big enough concern for me to bring it up in review i guess | 19:14 |
| pabelanger | +1 spec is well written | 19:14 |
| corvus | yeah, i don't think we need to change the general approach laid out in the spec, just fine-tune the algorithm | 19:15 |
| clarkb | I'm happy to move forward with it this week. Does anyone think they want more time to review it (I think its perfectly acceptable to do more review too) | 19:15 |
| clarkb | ianw: dmsimard frickler ^ | 19:16 |
| corvus | mnaser: ^ | 19:16 |
| * fungi kickbans clarkb for hightlight spam ;) | 19:16 | |
| clarkb | :) | 19:16 |
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| * dmsimard catches up with backlog | 19:18 | |
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| dmsimard | I had quickly skimmed the spec but didn't give it a good review, I'll take a look after the meeting. | 19:19 |
| clarkb | corvus: where do you sit on it? | 19:19 |
| clarkb | corvus: you still want to move ahead this week? | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | Using the supybot fork is reasonable -- using errbot would be nice but a lot of work. | 19:19 |
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| corvus | clarkb: let's put it up for vote and if dmsimard -1s it we'll take another pass | 19:19 |
| clarkb | sounds good to me | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | Something about errbot that's nice is the built-in cross-platform thing (slack, irc, xmpp, etc.) | 19:20 |
| dmsimard | I'll vote on the spec. | 19:20 |
| clarkb | #agreed put https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531242/ IRC Bot improvements up for vote this week and if dmsimard -1s we'll take another pass | 19:20 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:20 |
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| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:20 |
| mordred | yah - that was the original motivation for errbot- but the amount of work has resulted in no progress since we started talking about it around the paris summit | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:20 | |
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| fungi | this is a quick one | 19:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: has a topic for storyboard "should we allow search indexes to index storyboard" | 19:21 |
| fungi | in the course of the -dev ml thread covering tripleo's testing out of sb, i noticed that we have a robots.txt denying indexing by web crawlers on sb.o.o | 19:22 |
| fungi | a little archaeology indicates that has been baked into the webclient source/build since its very initial commit | 19:22 |
| Zara | :) | 19:22 |
| pabelanger | yah, seems like some we should be allowing, helping users find the reports | 19:22 |
| fungi | subsequent discussion in #storyboard indicates that it may not be particularly straightforward since the content is rendered via javascript calling the sb api | 19:23 |
| corvus | indexing of #! based sites is not easy | 19:23 |
| clarkb | maybe we want to unblock it on storyboard-dev first, make sure that it doesn't cause the server to fall over then do it on storyboard.openstack.org? | 19:23 |
| corvus | though google changed how they do stuff with that recently | 19:23 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh right | 19:23 |
| corvus | it may be easier | 19:23 |
| fungi | there was a suggestion that google at least does some of this, yeah | 19:23 |
| corvus | (apparently, the google indexer can now render js pages with some fidelity) | 19:23 |
| fungi | i'd be less keen on allowing indexing of sb-dev.o.o because we could end up with misleading stale copies of stories and other test story content turning up in web searches | 19:24 |
| corvus | probably someone needs to do a little bit of research and determine if it's feasible and not destructive to enable with respect to the current state of the art, or whether we need to make storyboard changes | 19:24 |
| clarkb | fungi: because we put duplicate test stories in there? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | or even the test migrations I guess | 19:24 |
| fungi | clarkb: both testing migrations there and importing copies of the production db | 19:25 |
| Zara | yeah I definitely think dev should stay unindexed | 19:25 |
| Zara | our routing is old anyway so it would be nice to update that more generally | 19:25 |
| clarkb | in that case we need to watch production carefull when we make the change but that should be doable and is an easy change to undo | 19:25 |
| clarkb | but I'm in favor of that | 19:26 |
| fungi | yeah i'm not super sure how to test whether this would have a negative impact without just doing it and keeping a close eye on the server resources | 19:26 |
| clarkb | do we have a volunteer for doing that? watching cacti and general server responsiveness from your local browser should get you msot of the way there (so doesn't require root) | 19:27 |
| clarkb | then if things really go sideways or we need more info a root can dig that up | 19:27 |
| Zara | I sould be able to if someone sends me links | 19:28 |
| Zara | (or I can go digging) | 19:28 |
| fungi | i can volunteer to be infra-root primary point of contact for that stuff too since i opened the can of worms to start with | 19:28 |
| clarkb | Zara: fungi thanks! I think that means fungi can dig up links | 19:28 |
| fungi | and try to keep an eye on it during waking hours | 19:28 |
| Zara | great, thanks! :D | 19:28 |
| fungi | yes, i'll put together links Zara | 19:28 |
| clarkb | anything else on this or are we good to move on to zuul v3? | 19:29 |
| fungi | that's all i had | 19:29 |
| Zara | _o_ | 19:29 |
| * mordred owes Zara another patch ... | 19:29 | |
| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:29 | |
| clarkb | quick note that I almost have the zuul v3 issues etherpad cleared out and migrated to other data tracking systems | 19:29 |
| clarkb | hope to finish that up today | 19:30 |
| clarkb | fungi is working on making a bigger zuul v3 instance | 19:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: anything you need to help move that along? | 19:30 |
| fungi | yep, and relearning puppet apparently | 19:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: nothing else i know about yet | 19:30 |
| clarkb | infra-root ^ helping that is somewhat important so that we can stabilize zuul.o.o | 19:31 |
| fungi | will hopefully have it booted shortly after the meeting | 19:31 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:31 |
| clarkb | The other thing I had on the agenda to talk about is merging feature/zuulv3 into master | 19:31 |
| fungi | then i'll rebase the remaining system-config change for cacti/firewalls | 19:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: cool, sounds like it should be done soon then | 19:31 |
| fungi | here's hoping | 19:31 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005790.html Communicating a feature/zuulv3 merge plan | 19:32 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv2-outstanding-change-triage Triaging existing changes on v2 master branches | 19:32 |
| fungi | i added that last one to the agenda mainly to get a touchpoint on what we want to do | 19:32 |
| clarkb | I think we are really close to being able to merge the feature/zuulv3 at least from a technical standpoint | 19:32 |
| clarkb | the etherpad above was news to me (or I had forgotten about it at least) | 19:32 |
| clarkb | have we declared bankruptcy on that? | 19:33 |
| corvus | i think it's worth going through old changes and see what might be relevant | 19:33 |
| fungi | it's a lot of changes open on master and not only do we generally have enough trouble reviewing urgent changes in a timely fashion, i at least feel like i lack sufficient context to judge which ones would still be relevant in v3 | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | I am hoping to push up changes need to bring nb01 back online with nodepool feature/zuulv3 running. Will need some changes to nodepool.yaml syntax first | 19:33 |
| clarkb | ok so maybe take a step back on the thursday merge goal ( as I expect going through all those changes will take longer?) | 19:34 |
| corvus | oh no sorry | 19:34 |
| corvus | we're not merging anything to the current master | 19:34 |
| clarkb | corvus: oh do you mean look through them and forward port? | 19:34 |
| Shrews | pabelanger: what's changed in the nb* configs? | 19:34 |
| fungi | i.e. master branch is frozen for further commits until feature/zuulv3 is merged to master | 19:34 |
| corvus | i mean look through them and triage. we can abandon lots of them. the rest we can indicate are good targets for forward-porting. | 19:34 |
| clarkb | corvus: got it | 19:35 |
| corvus | i think that can happen at any time -- even after the v3.0 release | 19:35 |
| clarkb | ya shouldn't need to happen ebfore the merge | 19:35 |
| clarkb | or at any other specific time | 19:35 |
| corvus | but i do think that we owe it to our contributors to do it at some point. at least spend a few seconds on each one. | 19:35 |
| fungi | granted many (most?) will merge-conflict if they don't already | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: nodepool-builder still using old syntax, need to updated to new format | 19:35 |
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| pabelanger | Shrews: and switched to python3 | 19:36 |
| clarkb | I can try taking a first pass through it and categorize once I am done with the zuulv3-issues etherpad | 19:36 |
| fungi | i started trying to go through those back in december but was honestly pretty lost | 19:36 |
| clarkb | #action clarkb to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: old: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/nodepool.yaml new: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/nl01.openstack.org.yaml | 19:36 |
| corvus | clarkb: thanks | 19:36 |
| corvus | maybe we can establish a tree | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | Shrews: and we cannot use nb01.openstack.org.yaml as it doesn't have all providers listed for uploading images | 19:37 |
| clarkb | other than the old master changes are there any concerns realted to merging the two branches on nodepool and zuul? I put details on what I think the process will be in the mailing list | 19:37 |
| clarkb | I also think we want to do both at the same time | 19:37 |
| corvus | clarkb: agreed, both at once. and yeah, i think we'll just have a bunch of changes we'll need to re-propose. | 19:38 |
| clarkb | corvus: might also be worth an email to the openstack dev list and the new zuul announce list saying "we are doing this" maybe send that nowish? | 19:38 |
| corvus | we can let folks know if they had open changes on v3, they'll need to repropose them. | 19:39 |
| corvus | clarkb: sounds good, i'll do that. | 19:39 |
| clarkb | thanks | 19:39 |
| corvus | #action corvus send email to openstack-dev, openstack-infra, zuul-announce about feature branch merge | 19:39 |
| corvus | maybe also third-party-ci-announce? | 19:40 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | any other zuul items before we move on? | 19:40 |
| corvus | nak | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | #topic General topics | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | Thank you everyone that helped get us patched against meltdown | 19:41 |
| clarkb | as of this morning we no longer have any instances that ansible inventory knows about running old kernels | 19:41 |
| clarkb | (we had to delete a couple instances that were no longer used) | 19:41 |
| fungi | and nothing has melted down yet | 19:41 |
| clarkb | pabelanger also finished up infracloud patching | 19:41 |
| corvus | it's possible the zuul executors are a bit... overheated... :) | 19:42 |
| fungi | though we have a sinking suspicion it may be to blame for increased load on the zuul executors? | 19:42 |
| fungi | right, that | 19:42 |
| clarkb | while nothing has properly melted down I think we have seen some etra performance impact | 19:42 |
| clarkb | ya | 19:42 |
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| clarkb | we should keep an eye out for that, unfortunately I think our only way to address that is bigger instances/more instances | 19:42 |
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| clarkb | supposedly google managed to patch with minimal performance impact but not sure they have shared those details pubicly | 19:43 |
| clarkb | and also spectre patches are rolling out to cpus and they may too have more performance impacts | 19:43 |
| clarkb | its a fun time all around | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | "fun" | 19:43 |
| fungi | for masochistic definitions of that word | 19:44 |
| clarkb | thanks again for everyone helping out on that | 19:44 |
| clarkb | the next item is somewhat related to that: Infracloud | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | until the next firedrill | 19:44 |
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| clarkb | during meltdown patching we lost the infracloud controller node due to bad disks ( we also lost at least 2 compute hosts) | 19:44 |
| clarkb | the initial idea we had when patching last week was to rehome vanilla computes to the chocolate controller | 19:45 |
| clarkb | but this morning an interesting email was forwarded to me | 19:45 |
| clarkb | "Unfortunately, HPE will not move forward with the donation of hardware at this time as there is a need to use this equipment for other organizational support purposes." | 19:45 |
| mordred | oh. my | 19:45 |
| mordred | really? | 19:45 |
| pabelanger | ouch | 19:45 |
| clarkb | this has not been communicated directly to any of us from what I can tell | 19:45 |
| mordred | they think they want to use those computers? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya that was my reaction :) | 19:45 |
| clarkb | BUT it is an indication we won't have the hardware for much longer and I think we should plan for that | 19:46 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | agree | 19:46 |
| corvus | how hard is it to re-home choc compute? | 19:46 |
| clarkb | I'm inclined to just get my fix to nodepool for handling cloud outages in then use chocolate until they take it away from us | 19:46 |
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| corvus | er, backwards | 19:46 |
| clarkb | corvus: I'm not sure. I think we have to update tyhe config on all the computes then accept them on the controller? | 19:46 |
| fungi | yeah, this was in a heads-up i received from our contact at osu-osl whom we'd been talking to about relocating the deployment there | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | Yah, i think it would just be config updates to add vanilla into chocolate | 19:47 |
| corvus | is it maybe worth doing that and keeping it up until they pull the plug? | 19:47 |
| fungi | so basically hpe told osu-osl this, but not us... no idea what the story really is | 19:47 |
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| corvus | busy time and all | 19:47 |
| clarkb | corvus: maybe? the vanilla hardware is far more flaky than chocolate based on patching experience | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | I mean, I'm happy to try adding vanilla to chocolate, if we want to give it a shot | 19:48 |
| clarkb | there is a possibility that bad hard drives and or ram would cause problems if running on vanilla computes. I think we want ot monitor that closely if we rehome them | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I won't stop anyone from doing it :) | 19:48 |
| clarkb | just want to make sure we have a common understanding of what may end up happening there soon | 19:48 |
| corvus | ok, maybe not worth it | 19:48 |
| fungi | part of the complexity with the hpe/osu/osf triangle is that hpe can't donate hardware to a 501c(6) like osf, but can donate it to an educational institution like osu | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | I mean, they can't delete the domain name, so we have that going for us :D | 19:49 |
| fungi | so some communication was bypassing openstack people entirely and going between hpe and osu | 19:49 |
| clarkb | I do think if people want ot learn more about openstack they should have it, don't let me stop you. But I don't think it needs to be a priority. | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | (patching meltdown on infracloud felt like a priority last week due to the way meltdown could be exploited by VMs) | 19:51 |
| fungi | it's also a great opportunity if we have another organization who wants to donate hardware/hosting we might reboot it on | 19:51 |
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| clarkb | any other infracloud concerns/ideas/topics? | 19:52 |
| fungi | we've heard from some off and on but nothing has really panned out so far | 19:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 19:52 |
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| pabelanger | fungi: yah, there have been some talks about what to do with tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 after OVB jobs move into RDO, but nothing 100% yet | 19:52 |
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| clarkb | only 8 minutes left /me continues on | 19:53 |
| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | mordred: fungi ^ any new progress on making these doable with zuul v3? | 19:53 |
| clarkb | I think I had changes pulled up to review last week then metldown patching happened and my brain turned to mus | 19:53 |
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| fungi | i haven't touched it at all, no | 19:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think the jeblair patch to remove names is the biggest thing | 19:54 |
| clarkb | mordred: is that in or do i still need to go review it? | 19:54 |
| * clarkb seems to recall the zuul changes made it in now we have to update configs? | 19:54 | |
| mordred | the patch to remove the need for names is in and running | 19:54 |
| mordred | I think he patch-bombed already too | 19:55 |
| clarkb | woot | 19:55 |
| mordred | we also may need to make non-existent required-projects non-fatal from a zuul config loading perspective | 19:55 |
| clarkb | oh right taht was the thing that came up last week | 19:55 |
| clarkb | fatal to the job but not zuul as a whole | 19:55 |
| corvus | no i haven't patch-bombed; i mentioned that earlier. but we don't have to wait on that -- just go ahead and remove the project name from any projects that need renaming. | 19:55 |
| fungi | and there was talk about ditching the system-required template in favor of implicit templates? | 19:55 |
| mordred | jobs that are referencing renamed projects in required-projects will still need to be fixed for the job to work - but there is a difference between a broken job and zuul not eing able to start | 19:56 |
| mordred | corvus: ++ | 19:56 |
| corvus | coincidentally, we found another reason to make required-projects non-fatal -- it lets us do some cool things with cross-repo-dependencies | 19:56 |
| clarkb | corvus: is that something you think you'll be adding too then? | 19:56 |
| fungi | can we stop using system-required? afaik it does nothing at the moment because we're no longer running merge-check jobs | 19:56 |
| clarkb | (we don't need a volunteer for the feature?) | 19:56 |
| corvus | so i think that's likely to happen (it's got 2 things going for it now) | 19:57 |
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| clarkb | sounds like we might be able to do renames soon then :) | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #topic open discussion | 19:57 |
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| clarkb | really quickly before we run out of time? anything else? | 19:57 |
| fungi | and if we need something like system-required in the future we can switch to an implicit template at that time? | 19:57 |
| corvus | how urgent is it? can we do a rename without that? could we say we'll do a rename with disabling/re-enabling the job for now? | 19:57 |
| clarkb | ianw and linaro are working on uefi + gpt support in dib so that we can built arm64 images | 19:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ I think you have the best grasp of how badly that affects your rename | 19:58 |
| pabelanger | looking to start gerrit upgrade testing for next week on review-dev.o.o | 19:58 |
| fungi | i don't suppose dropping system-required is urgent, just simplifies project renames and new project creation to have on fewer place to potentially need to list a project | 19:58 |
| fungi | s/on fewer/one fewer/ | 19:59 |
| corvus | i'm hoping to do that soon, but honestly, i'd like to devote more time to 3.0-blocker reviews and memory improvements first, if possible. that would probably set it back a few weeks. | 19:59 |
| mordred | corvus: looking at codesearch, I think the one I was most concerned about from a rename perspective is only listed in required-projects in jobs in 2 repos | 19:59 |
| mordred | corvus: so I think yes, removing/altering the test jobs then doing rename seems fine | 19:59 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: maybe we can sync up on that again this week as I will be largely afk next week | 19:59 |
| ianw | will keep fiddling on gpt stuff; we also got new node builds out with pti ... i guess nothing has exploded yet | 19:59 |
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| corvus | ok. i'll keep it in mind as a target of opportunity, but not put it at the top of the list. | 20:00 |
| clarkb | corvus: mordred fungi sounds like a plan, maybe we can schedule a project rename next meeting? | 20:00 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: sure, recap would be fine | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and now we are out of time | 20:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: wfm | 20:00 |
| clarkb | Thank you everyone! | 20:00 |
| corvus | clarkb: thanks! | 20:00 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 16 20:00:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-01-16-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
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