Tuesday, 2018-01-23

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hongbin#start-meeting zun03:00
hongbin#startmeeting zun03:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 03:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.03:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.03:00
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hongbin#topic roll call03:00
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kiennt26_o/ hi03:00
hongbinhi kevinz kiennt26 , thanks for joining03:01
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hongbinas usual, we could have a short meeting today03:01
hongbinfirst, i would like to mention that this week is the deadline for client library release03:02
hongbinwe are going to release python-zunclient this week, after this patch is merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533499/03:02
hongbinthe zun server will be released after03:03
hongbinpossible in one week or two03:03
hongbinthis will be the first 1.x release for zun, good jobs everyone03:03
hongbinany question about the release, please let me know03:03
hongbinok, i finish my part03:04
hongbinkevinz: any update from your side?03:04
kevinzLast week I've pushed first patch to gophercloud for capsule get.03:04
hongbinit looks there is a reviewer giving a few feedback03:06
kevinzAlso I find that I need to add two fields (addresses and volume_info)to capsule. So I will modify zun server side first03:06
kevinzYes, and then push to gophercloud03:06
hongbini saw there is a patch for volume_info03:06
hongbini expect there will be another patch for addresses?03:06
hongbinor there is already one?03:07
kevinzvolume_info and addresses already one in data model, I will add another patch to make it support on capsule create process03:08
kevinzI'll push today for review03:08
kevinzThen I can move on at gophercloud03:08
hongbinsound great03:09
kevinzThat's all from my side03:09
hongbinthanks kevinz03:09
hongbinkiennt26: hi kien, you have anything to share with the team?03:10
kiennt26_This week, I couldn't spend much time for Zun so nothing new from me :(03:10
hongbinkiennt26: i see, not a problem at all03:10
hongbinkiennt26: the meeting is going both ways, so if you have anything we can help, just bring it up03:11
hongbinif no, then let's end the meeting shortly03:12
kiennt26_hongbin: I didn't have one :) I am going to review your zunclient patch03:12
hongbinkiennt26: cool, thanks kiennt2603:12
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hongbinok, all, thanks for joining the meeting today, see you next time03:12
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samPhi all for masakari04:00
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samP#startmeeting masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 04:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
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samPhi all04:01
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samPlets start04:01
samP#topic Critical Bugs04:01
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samPAny bugs to discuss?04:01
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samPor patches?04:02
tpatilchange service type from ha to instance-ha04:02
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tpatil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:fix_service_type+(status:open+OR+status:merged)04:02
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tpatilRefer to masakari related patches04:02
tpatilPlease review above patches04:02
rkmrHonjotpatil: OK, thank you for creating patches.04:03
samPtpatil: Dinesh_Bhor* thank you for fix04:03
samPshould we merge Monty's patch first?04:04
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534878/04:04
tpatilI think so04:04
tpatilrkmrHonjo: Did you confirm Monty's patch is working correctly with newer version of openstacksdk?04:05
rkmrHonjotpatil: I'm confirming Monty's patch with current version of openstack sdk now.04:06
samPsorry, wrong link above04:06
tpatilDoes the current version contains resource2/proxy2 migration changes?04:06
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534883/04:07
rkmrHonjoBut, in my understanding, the next version openstacksdk that will be removed proxy2/resource2 is not released yet.04:07
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rkmrHonjoAh, please wait.04:07
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samPrkmrHonjo: If current master has proxy2/resource2 removed, then you should check it with current master. not with released ones.04:08
tpatilMaybe need to use 0.10.0 version of openstacksdk04:08
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rkmrHonjosamP: OK. I check it.04:09
rkmrHonjoAnd, I will send the result of it to ML.04:10
samPrkmrHonjo: thank you.04:10
tpatilcurrent one used is 0.9.19, https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L41204:10
rkmrHonjotpatil: Thanks.04:11
tpatilrkmrHonjo: Once you have confirm it's working correctly with 0.10.0, let's merge Monty's patch first04:11
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rkmrHonjotpatil: I got it.04:12
samPrkmrHonjo: please comment your result to gerrit04:12
samPrkmrHonjo: thanks04:12
samPany toher bugs or patches to discuss?04:13
rkmrHonjo#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516577/ Fix masakari query remote node state04:13
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rkmrHonjoHieu(author of this patch) needs reviews. I'm reviewing this patch, and please review it if you can.04:13
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samPrkmrHonjo: I will. but this take some time. Because, this patch need to verify.04:15
samPrkmrHonjo: I will do this04:16
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rkmrHonjosamP: ok, thanks.04:16
tpatilAnother patch needs review04:17
tpatil#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528647/04:17
tpatilthis is a initial cookie cutter patch for masakari-dashboard04:17
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samPtpatil: done04:18
tpatilok, thank you04:18
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samPany other bugs or patches?04:19
samPif not let's move to discussion. if any please bring them up any time.04:20
samP#topic Discussion Points04:20
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samPIn ML, Waines Greg sends some questions about Masakari CLI04:21
samPInitially Dinesh_Bhor was answering those questions. (thank you for that)04:22
samPWill Dinesh_Bhor able support Greg for new questions?04:23
Dinesh_BhorsamP: I still need to reproduce his other problem which he has requested04:23
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samPDinesh_Bhor: OK, thanks.04:24
Dinesh_BhorsamP: Yes, will do.04:24
samPplease let me know if you need any help on this.04:24
rkmrHonjoWas Dinesh's mail sent to dev-ML? I didn't receive it.04:24
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samP#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126446.html04:26
Dinesh_BhorrkmrHonjo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125366.html04:26
Dinesh_BhorHe has asked his configuring masakari problem in private mail thread as well.04:27
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rkmrHonjosamP: Thanks.04:28
samPDinesh_Bhor: rkmrHonjo: Thank you for supporting Greg04:29
samPAnd, if it is difficult for you to handle private mails, please send them to ML.04:30
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samPOK, then,04:32
samP(1) Horizon Plugin04:32
samPJust approved the init patch for the repo04:33
tpatilI think it's too late to push patches for queens cycle04:33
samPtpatil: true.04:34
tpatilThe initial plan was to provide support to add failover segment and host in queens cycle. I will request Niraj to submit patches if it's ready04:34
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samPtpatil: thanks. if those are ready, are you going to push them for Queens?04:36
samPor next release?04:36
tpatilIt's better to postpone it to the next release04:36
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samPtpatil: OK. Then we have to consider exclude that repo from release04:38
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tpatilBecause I don't know whether he has written unit tests for the code changes04:38
samPtpatil: sure, no problem.04:38
tpatilsamP: correct, there is no point to include masakari-dashboard in the queens release04:38
samPif code ready, just push them and lets review. we still have little bit of time before deciding what to release04:39
tpatilsamP: Ok04:40
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samPtpatil: I will take required action to exclude masakari-dashboard from Queens (if we decide so)04:41
samPtpatil: thanks04:41
samP(2) Install Guide docs04:41
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samPjust one left.04:41
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534878/04:42
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samP^^ thanks to Monty docs will be published.04:42
samP(3) recovery method customization04:42
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522219/104:44
tpatilsamP: Will be postpone to the next release04:44
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samPtpatil: sure04:44
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samPWe still need to merge #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52221904:44
samP(4) Queens Work Items04:45
samPNo update04:46
samP(5) Ansible support for Masakari04:46
samPI still struggling to publish my playbooks. I will do that asap.04:47
Dinesh_BhorsamP: Okay, Thank you04:47
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tpatilsamP: Ok, Dinesh will start understanding Ansible plugin framework in the meantime04:47
samPI think we need to create a BP on OSA.04:48
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tpatilsamP: Will do it in this week04:48
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samPWe have to create that BP when we start to implement our playbooks. I will give more details on this later04:49
tpatilsamP: Ok, Thank you04:49
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samP(6)Call Force down API when host-failure will be notified04:49
rkmrHonjoI think that we have discussed  enough about it. Sorry, I didn't update wiki page.04:50
samPrkmrHonjo: correct...sorry04:50
samPI think we do not have any updates for other items.04:50
samP#topic AOB04:51
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samPAny other topics?04:51
rkmrHonjoAdditional information about Monty's patch: resource2/proxy2 will be removed by this patch and related patches. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533826/04:51
rkmrHonjoAnd, these patchets are not merged yet.04:51
rkmrHonjoSo I think that we could merge Monty's patch if it works with current openstack-sdk. Just in case, I test the patch with openstakc-sdk 0.9.19 and
rkmrHonjoIn this file, resource2/proxy2 will be removed in openstack-sdk 1.0.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535860/2/openstack/proxy2.py04:52
samPrkmrHonjo: thanks for info04:53
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samPsorry, I was searching for this mail.04:57
samP#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126421.html04:58
samPWe should consider Monty's suggestion here04:58
samPNo them left today, Let discuss this on ML04:59
samPplease use ML or #openstack-masakari for further discussion04:59
tpatilsamP: Ok04:59
samPthank you all..04:59
rkmrHonjothank you04:59
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litao__#startmeeting test09:23
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 09:23:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is litao__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:23
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:23
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litao__#action talk09:24
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litao__#idea cat09:24
litao__#topic dog09:24
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litao__#link http://test.com09:24
openstackUnable to parse vote topic and options.09:25
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Qiming#startmeeting senlin13:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 13:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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Qimingdon't know if others are joining today13:03
Qimingseems ruijie has been busy in his new job13:03
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Qiminglet's get started13:04
Qimingthis week is the q-3 release week13:05
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QimingI will try cut a release tomorrow13:05
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Qiming#link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html13:05
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chenyb4last week, erly and liyi has join13:06
QimingI was trapped by my naughty girl, :p13:07
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chenyb4The girl is lovely, our family also has a lovely girl.13:08
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Qimingwe need eyes and hands on the patches13:09
Qiming#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/senlin+status:open13:09
Qimingmost are small patches except for this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535894/13:09
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chenyb4when functional list test pass, will edit the other operation functional test13:12
Qimingthat would be great13:13
Qimingwe can first focus on positive tests, then negative ones13:13
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Qimingthose are items I have in mind13:15
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Qimingdo you have anything else for discussion, chenyb4 ?13:16
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chenyb4No, my next step is to continue with the functional test.13:17
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Qimingwe can end this meeting early then13:18
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ihrachys#startmeeting neutron_ci16:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 16:01:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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ihrachyshello friends :)16:02
ihrachys#topic Actions from prev meeting16:02
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ihrachys"mlavalle to follow up with stadium projects on taking over / merge patches to switch imports to new tempest repo"16:02
mlavalleVPNaaS is merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521342/16:02
mlavalleI'm sorry, that's midonet16:03
ihrachysnot really?16:03
mlavalleVPNaaS is ready to go IMO: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52134116:03
ihrachysbut i pushed vpnaas in16:03
mlavallegreat :-)16:04
ihrachysmlavalle, what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521346/ ?16:04
ihrachysthat's dynamic-routing16:04
ihrachysI think that's the last standing16:04
mlavalleI am talking to chandamkumar in the qa channel about it16:04
mlavallechandankumar that is16:05
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mlavallehe is been really helpful16:05
mlavalleour conversations are asynch. I haven't figured out his hours16:05
mlavalleso we should get it in soon16:06
ihrachysok. after we land that one, we should be able to clean up tempest bits from tree16:06
ihrachysI believe we don't have the patch proposed16:06
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ihrachysit may be a good moment to propose one, making it depend on dynamic-routing / vpnaas16:06
mlavalleI can take care of that16:06
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ihrachysok cool16:07
ihrachys#action mlavalle to propose a patch removing last tempest bits from neutron tree16:07
ihrachys"jlibosva to talk to otherwiseguy about making progress for functional ovsdb issues (timeouts, retries, stream parsing failures)"16:08
ihrachysjlibosva, your floor16:08
jlibosvawell, I did but we haven't found anything specific16:08
jlibosvaone of theories is that it's related to the weird data appearing in the ovsdbapp socket that's use to communication16:09
ihrachysright. and we haven't landed a patch that would log more that could give us leads16:09
jlibosvaso maybe we will try to fix that first and we see. it's not clear why the try_again is happening16:09
jlibosvawe did16:09
jlibosvawell, we didn't land it16:09
jlibosvait's just on review16:09
ihrachysbut is it ok that it's not in tree and hence little info is collected?16:10
jlibosvaIt seems that it's reproduced very often so I'd give it couple of rechecks16:10
* otherwiseguy is looking at the functional ovsdb stuff still16:10
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ihrachysjlibosva, you mean, we can debug / collect info without landing it, just with rechecks?16:11
jlibosvaihrachys: right16:11
otherwiseguythe log message is...weird...it is labeled as coming from a test where ovsdb stuff shouldn't even be happening I think.16:11
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otherwiseguy(the error parsing stream message)16:11
otherwiseguyLike it has shown up on an ovs fw vsctl test.16:11
ihrachysotherwiseguy, could be eventlet not doing its job properly. the other error message you see, could it be triggered by another tester thread?16:12
ihrachysdo they all share the same rootwrap daemon?16:12
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otherwiseguyihrachys, it seems very likely to be eventlet-related anyway (just my gut feeling, though). Not sure on rw daemon. but the ovsdb native stuff doesn't use rwd.16:13
ihrachysah right, sorry I mixed things again. that's ovsdb socket.16:13
ihrachysso the error is "RuntimeError: Port nonexistantport does not exist"16:14
otherwiseguyAnd it might be somehow related to the weird monkey patching of the ovs logging stuff too...i just don't really know yet.16:14
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ihrachysI think nonexistantport is a unique name, (maybe) in the tree16:14
ihrachysso we could check which test it belongs to, and check whether it's same tester worker or a different one, when it executed comparing to the one that fails16:14
slaweqihrachys: this name is used only in this test: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/ff24fc07278797459b77434662c92667d690b0b4/neutron/tests/functional/agent/test_ovs_lib.py#L7916:15
otherwiseguyThe log message I'm seeing in weird places is the "Error parsing stream row/col" which doesn't have a lot of info to match up on.16:16
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ihrachysotherwiseguy, will you be able to match the error message source against time of retries / stream parsing issue and report in bug?16:18
ihrachysI don't think it will lead to something but if there is some chance...16:19
otherwiseguyihrachys, I will certainly try. :)16:20
ihrachysotherwiseguy, you said there is little to match on. you mean, the stream data not included in the exception?16:20
otherwiseguyLike for instance this message: 2018-01-22 06:47:14.095 [neutron.tests.functional.agent.linux.test_ovsdb_monitor.TestSimpleInterfaceMonitor.test_get_events_includes_ofport_vsctl_] 10724 WARNING ovsdbapp.backend.ovs_idl.vlog [-] tcp: error parsing stream: line 0, column 4, byte 4: invalid keyword 'rors'16:20
ihrachysright. but can't we at this point grab more data from the socket and dump it?16:21
ihrachysor will it interact badly with other consumers?16:21
otherwiseguyIf it happens to hit on that one patch that I'm testing.16:21
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ihrachysthe connection is probably per thread so it would be ok no?16:21
otherwiseguyGetting the info from the stream is kind of invasive.16:21
ihrachysotherwiseguy, right. and that's what I was alluding to. maybe there is a merit in merging it to give it a higher chance to hit it with useful data dumped somewhere in gate.16:22
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ihrachysotherwiseguy, well, it's invasive but at this point it may be the time to reset / reconnect anyway since you can't trust the data inside, so it could be one of cleanup steps.16:22
ihrachysif we were to reconnect on the error, would it help?16:23
otherwiseguyIf I don't come up with something in the next couple of days it may be worth it.16:23
otherwiseguyihrachys, that might help.16:23
ihrachys#action otherwiseguy to continue digging ovsdb retry / stream parsing issue and try things16:23
ihrachysI put action item so that we get back to it next time16:23
otherwiseguyihrachys, good plan. reminders always a good thing for me. ;)16:24
ihrachysnext was "jlibosva to check why functional job times out globally instead of triggering a local test case timeout for TRY_AGAIN ovsdb issue"16:24
ihrachysthat's somewhat related16:24
jlibosvaso I just briefly looked at the code and it seems to me we don't have a per-test timeout implicitly. I need to test it though and confirm. I think you can flip this as an ongoing AI for me till the next meeting16:24
ihrachysjlibosva, I thought ostestr applies some default16:25
jlibosvaI thought we have a Timeout class for that that uses Timeout fixture16:25
ihrachysthere is this OS_TEST_TIMEOUT setting that you can pass into the env16:26
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ihrachysbut it's for openstack/oslotest based classes16:27
ihrachysdo we use the library?16:27
jlibosvaok, I need to dig there. I thought we have to do it by ourselves16:27
ihrachyswell our DietTestCase inherits from it16:27
slaweqihrachys: but it looks that OS_TEST_TIMEOUT is not set in functional tests: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/ff24fc07278797459b77434662c92667d690b0b4/tox.ini#L5116:27
ihrachysthough maybe it actually requires setting of the value: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslotest/tree/oslotest/base.py#n3816:28
slaweqsorry, it is set in testenv:common16:28
ihrachysslaweq, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/ff24fc07278797459b77434662c92667d690b0b4/tox.ini#L2316:28
ihrachysand it should have been inherited16:28
slaweqyes, my mistake, sorry16:28
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ihrachysanyway, there's that thing for jlibosva to be aware of, and he will continue digging :)16:29
ihrachys#action jlibosva to continue digging why functional tests loop in ovsdb retry and don't timeout16:29
ihrachysnext was "slaweq to report a bug about l2 ext manager not catching exceptions from extensions"16:29
jlibosvaand I confirm that if we inherit from neutron.tests.base we get the timeout16:29
slaweqI reported it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/174364716:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1743647 in neutron "L2 extension manager don't handle drivers errors" [Low,Confirmed]16:30
ihrachysjlibosva, oh so we don't. ok that seems like a good lead then.16:30
ihrachysslaweq, I tagged it as low-hanging-fruit16:30
slaweqok, thx16:30
ihrachys"ihrachys to report bug for l2 agent restart fullstack failures and dig it"16:31
ihrachysyou get the idea. I think I forgot to create a trello card for it and it slipped16:31
ihrachysI will fix it now :)16:31
ihrachyssorry for that16:32
ihrachysnext was "mlavalle to bring up floating ip failures in dvr scenario job to l3 team"16:32
mlavallewe did discuss talk about it. I will let haleyb update about it16:33
haleybi don't have any update, been busy with other items16:33
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ihrachysbut at least the gist of discussion from any of you maybe?16:34
mlavallewell, we have had difficulty following up on that one16:35
mlavallehaleyb: is there anyway I can help?16:35
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haleybjust finding bug... getting a setup in that failing state would be best, then we could inspect rules, etc16:36
mlavalleok, let's talk about it in channel16:37
ihrachys#action mlavalle and haleyb to follow up on how we can move forward floating ip failures in dvr scenario16:37
haleyblight fire under haleyb :)16:37
ihrachysthis issue is quite old (another example of those hard cracks is the ovsdb timeout thingy), so if you have mad ideas they may still be worth trying at this point16:38
ihrachyshaleyb, you are on the hook too :p16:38
ihrachysnext was "mlavalle to transit remaining legacy- jobs to new format"16:38
mlavallethe remaining one is legacy-tempest-dsvm-py3516:39
mlavallethe qa team is reimplementing that job16:39
ihrachysmlavalle, oh so it's inherited from another repo?16:40
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mlavalleit comes from here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/tree/zuul.d/zuul-legacy-project-templates.yaml#n15316:40
ihrachysoh ok. then I guess we can leave it to qa16:41
mlavallethat's why I didn't see it when moving / renaming the other ones16:41
ihrachyswe'll just need to make sure that once they replace the job we change grafana16:41
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ihrachysthere are also 'periodic' jobs that are legacy. not sure whether it's not the same case.16:42
ihrachysbut those seem specific to our project16:42
ihrachyslike legacy-periodic-neutron-py35-with-neutron-lib-master16:42
ihrachysor legacy-periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-with-ryu-master16:42
mlavalleI didn't have time to look at those16:42
mlavalleI can follow up next16:42
ihrachysI guess they are still defined in infra repos. are we expected to move those too? that would be a good q to answer.16:42
mlavalleyes, I can start from there16:43
mlavalleasking that question16:43
ihrachys#action mlavalle to check with infra what's the plan for periodics / maybe migrate jobs16:43
mlavalleat least we keep unraveling the thread :-)16:43
ihrachysthose are all AIs we had and we have whopping 17mins for the rest16:43
ihrachys#topic Grafana16:43
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ihrachysok one thing I notice is fullstack is back to 100%16:44
ihrachysalso, periodic -pg- (postgres) job is busted for several days so it's probably not a sporadic failure16:45
ihrachysscenarios are 40% for dvr and 20% for linuxbridge16:46
ihrachyslike the previous week16:46
slaweqihrachys: this fullstack failure rate is kind of demotivating for me :(16:46
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ihrachysovsfw job is at 80% though afaiu it was always bad16:46
ihrachysslaweq, I feel you. but maybe we can spot something new there in a latest run. we will check in a sec.16:47
jlibosvaoh I thought it's 100%, I allocated some time as there is always a volume test failing so I planned to look at it16:47
slaweqihrachys: sure, I just saying16:47
ihrachysother things don't look new / revealing, so let's move on16:48
ihrachys#topic Fullstack16:48
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haleybi added a new dashboard for the neutron-tempest-plugin repo, http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-tempest-plugin-failure-rate16:48
ihrachysah right, thanks haleyb16:48
ihrachysI need to get practiced to remember about it16:48
ihrachysso about the fullstack failure rate16:48
slaweqyes, I found same issue in many tests during last few days16:50
slaweqI can try to check it this week16:51
ihrachyslooks like l3agent failed to start? http://logs.openstack.org/80/536380/2/check/neutron-fullstack/138850e/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestLegacyL3Agent.test_mtu_update.txt.gz#_2018-01-23_10_46_42_69016:51
ihrachysthere is no l3agent log in service log dir16:52
ihrachysslaweq, ok please do. maybe l3_agent.py is busted, like import broken or smth16:52
ihrachysso it doesn't get to logging anything16:52
slaweqyes, I will check it ASAP16:53
slaweq(probably tomorrow)16:53
ihrachys#action slaweq to check why fullstack job is busted / l3agent fails to start16:53
slaweqrecently I'm working only on issues with fullstack so I have some "experience" :D16:53
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ihrachysyou are in the flow, as they say. on bug fixing spree. :)16:53
ihrachysyour work is not for naught :)16:54
slaweqthx :)16:54
ihrachysspeaking of fullstack, slaweq also has this patch that should help some failures: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536367/16:54
ihrachysI haven't gotten to it myself16:54
ihrachysbut since jlibosva and haleyb both voted +2 maybe they can push it in16:55
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slaweqhaleyb: thx16:55
ihrachysanother related thing that slaweq noticed during fullstack spree is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536342/16:56
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ihrachysif nothing else, it's a performance optimization for how agents fetch SGs16:56
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ihrachysis there anything else for fullstack?16:57
ihrachysI mean, that would require reviews16:57
slaweqI don't have anything else :)16:57
mlavallein my pile16:57
ihrachysmlavalle, shoot16:57
mlavalleI meant slawek's patch i in my pile16:58
ihrachysoh ok :)(16:58
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slaweqmlavalle: thx16:58
ihrachysok I guess we don't have much time to discuss other stuff so we will wrap up. next time we will focus on scenarios first.16:58
ihrachysthanks everyone and especially slaweq on doing Sisyphus work. that stone must roll over the hill one day.16:59
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slaweqthx, bye16:59
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mlavalleslaweq: so, is your Facebook profile picture also your face when you are fixing fullstack code?17:00
slaweqcurrently yes :D17:00
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slaweqbut it will be fine for sure :)17:01
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 23 18:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
lbragstadping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting18:00
lbragstadagenda ^18:00
lbragstadlet's do this!18:00
hrybackigood energy :)18:00
lbragstadshakin' things up18:00
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lbragstadwe'll give folks another minute to join18:02
knikollao/ (food took too long to arrive, will be monitoring the meeting from phone)18:02
lbragstad#topic announcements18:03
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lbragstadlet's go through the status of things18:03
lbragstad#topic announcement: release status18:03
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lbragstadwe're getting down to the wirte18:03
lbragstadfeature freeze and client freeze are both friday18:03
lbragstadwith that, we did make a bunch of progress on reviews last week18:04
cmurphyi think client freeze is thursday18:04
lbragstadas noted in cmurphy's weekly recap18:04
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lbragstadcmurphy: oh - good call18:04
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lbragstadon that note - we should also be planning to have things *gating* on thursday if we want to land them this releas18:04
hrybackiDo we need to request any FFEs?18:05
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lbragstadgiven the RC period is only two weeks, i'm not sure we'll have much time18:05
* hrybacki nods18:06
cmurphyrequirements freeze is also friday http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126475.html18:06
lbragstadbut i expect we can assess on wednesday evening18:06
kmalloco/ i am unlurking now18:06
lbragstadwe have three major efforts left18:06
lbragstadcmurphy: has been whipping up the application credential stuff18:07
lbragstadwhich looks like it's waiting on a bug gix18:07
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lbragstadcmurphy: anything you want to share there?18:07
cmurphythe ansible folks brought up https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1744948 with me so i'd like to get that fixed before merging anything else18:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1744948 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "allow_application_credential_creation contraint issue with suse + mariadb 10.2" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Colleen Murphy (krinkle)18:08
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lbragstadack - i'll be reviewing that right after this meeting18:08
cmurphywaiting for zuul results on that patch and they are testing it for me18:08
cmurphybut everything else is looking good18:09
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lbragstadthe unified limits implementation is looking good, but we're working on pulling out a FK constraint that merged with the migration18:10
lbragstadso that's gating on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536644/18:10
lbragstaddstanek is also looking into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126030/2518:10
lbragstadto make sure we captured all context of the problem before moving foward18:11
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lbragstadthe system scope stuff is just pending reviews18:11
lbragstadthere is a weird issue with tempest i started digging into with andreaf last night18:11
lbragstadand that is happening when we add a system admin role to the admin user in bootstrap...18:12
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lbragstadnot sure what the story is there yet, but that's one of the last patches in the series18:12
lbragstadwe're going to have a fast transition to rc period18:13
lbragstadi still need to parse all keystone bugs for any show stoppers so that we can focus on those during that two week period18:13
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lbragstadif you interested in helping build out that list, let me know.. i want to try and have that done by monday at the latest so we have a list of things to shoot for for RC18:14
hrybackilbragstad: I can probably help you there18:14
* cmurphy too18:14
gagehugobug stomp?18:14
lbragstadhrybacki: cmurphy that'd be a massive help, i appreciate it18:14
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lbragstadfeel free to tag things as queens-rc if it is something we need to fix before queens goes out the door18:15
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lbragstad#topic announcements: priority reviews18:15
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lbragstadfor your reviewing convenience - we now have a review board dedicated to queens feature work we need to land this week18:16
lbragstad#link https://goo.gl/NWdAH718:16
lbragstadif there is a review missing from there, let me know and i'll get it added (or removed)18:16
lbragstadany questions on release related activity?18:17
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samueldmqWow that list looks long for me18:18
lbragstadyeah - 46 keystone patches and 4 client patches18:18
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lbragstadd.) everything18:19
hrybackigates are gonna be in pain this week18:19
lbragstadthe good thing is that most of them are in good shape18:19
samueldmqCool, simple18:19
lbragstadyes - that too18:19
samueldmqI will try to do a few reviews this week18:19
lbragstadi've been trying to baby sit them in off hours so we can maximize our reviews, but nothing beats being as early as possible18:20
samueldmqAs much as I can on that list18:20
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samueldmqhrybacki: that wont help :(18:20
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hrybackisamueldmq: I know -- but it happens every cycle :|18:20
hrybackigood strategy lbragstad18:20
samueldmqlbragstad: agreed, lets try to kill a few of then today and Tomorrow still18:21
hrybackioffice hours == review session?18:21
lbragstadi'm good with that18:21
lbragstadif people want to break up and review things in batches we can do that too18:21
samueldmqlbragstad: thats a good strategy18:22
lbragstad2 - 3 people per feature?18:22
lbragstadwe can figure out that in office hours, too18:22
samueldmqMake sure to distribute the cores wsll in the groups18:22
lbragstadalright - i'm going to hand it off to hrybacki18:23
lbragstad#topic RH1 (CI) is coming down18:23
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hrybackigeneral awareness, the RH1 cloud (running TripleO CI OVB jobs) is coming down18:23
hrybackiahead of schedule actually18:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1744763 in tripleo "Ci: moving OVB jobs to RDO third party CI" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sagi (Sergey) Shnaidman (sshnaidm)18:24
hrybackijust general awareness -- the TripleO CI team is hammering away on this18:24
samueldmqHow representative is that in our current resource pool?18:24
hrybackisamueldmq: that's hard to say. I don't think it will affect us too much. I don't think we have a billion gate jobs running OVB rn18:25
samueldmqSo that we could have an Idea of How much impact in current Ci capacity18:25
hrybackiI'm honestly not sure -- been out of the upstream CI game for a cycle and things have changed a bit18:25
cmurphywhat is an ovb job?18:26
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hrybackiOpenStack Virtual Baremetal18:26
hrybackibasically OpenStack on TripleO18:26
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hrybackior quintupleo18:26
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hrybackiRH is pushing resources into a new cloud, RDO Cloud, and TripleO CI is expanding CI there18:27
cmurphyis this something that affects keystone or is this related to infra resources?18:27
hrybackimore related to infra resources -- I don't think it will hurt this team but I'm not 100% on that either18:27
* hrybacki tries to find list of repos affected18:28
hrybackiyou can see the list in the 'same topic' section of this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536507/218:30
hrybackiso mostly TripleO and THT related (didn't mean to eat up this much time in the mtg)18:31
hrybackithat's all I have on that lbragstad18:31
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lbragstadno worries - thanks for the heads up18:31
lbragstad#topic core reviewers18:32
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lbragstadfor those who don't know yet, gagehugo became core last week :)18:32
hrybackicongrats gagehugo :)18:32
lbragstadi'm not sure who put this topic on the agenda thoguh18:32
gagehugowasn't me18:33
hrybackime -- just curious if we need to plan a way to gain more cores18:33
samueldmqCongrats gagehugo18:33
hrybackiI know we talked about it at the last PTG -- and we've lost some since18:33
samueldmqWell deserved18:33
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gagehugosamueldmq :) thanks18:33
lbragstadi think a plan would be good - but i'm not sure how to approach building one18:34
cmurphyi don't think we're ever going to have enough cores18:34
lbragstadsince it usually depends on the reviewer18:34
lbragstadcmurphy: ++18:34
knikollamake your first patch, get a free beer in dublin18:35
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hrybackiflight included? XD18:35
hrybackiI guess the question is -- are nearing the point of /needing/ more core reviewers?18:35
lbragstadi think review pressure has gone up - but i'm curious to hear what others think18:36
knikollawe'll have a better answer after the progress today during office hours i think18:36
hrybackifair point knikolla18:36
hrybackiokay, well let's put a pin in this for now18:37
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lbragstad#topic open discussion18:37
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gagehugoI feel like the pressure isn't just on keystone, a lot of projects seem to be hurting for reviewers18:38
cmurphyyeah it's openstack-wide18:38
lbragstadthe volume of work or need for it hasn't changed, though18:39
lbragstadat least in my opinion18:39
lbragstador based on the people i talk to18:39
knikollai think it all comes down to how easy it is to have part time contributors18:40
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knikollait's harder today to get paid to work a large chunk of your time upstream.18:40
hrybacki^^ +218:40
gagehugoknikolla ++18:40
lbragstadyeah - that's going to be a big part of how we manage things going forward18:41
lbragstadthat was a big topic in sydney during the forum18:42
lbragstadbefore we get into office hours, do we want to discuss breaking into review teams here?18:44
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hrybackifwiw I have the next 105 minutes free18:45
lbragstadi already planned on reviewing the application credential stuff, so we can get that unblocked18:45
lbragstadand go through the entire stack again18:46
gagehugolast week the app cred stuff worked for me18:46
lbragstadif someone wants to join me, i'd appreciate the extra set of eyes18:46
hrybackiI haven't had a chance to look at that stuff, I'd be happy to join18:46
knikollai've already done a fair chunk of system scope reviewing, so i'll keep on that.18:47
lbragstadknikolla: perfect18:47
cmurphyunified limits def needs more eyes18:47
gagehugoI can look at whatever, I should be available all afternoon18:47
lbragstadas soon as i'm done with the app creds stuff, i'll transition to unified limts18:47
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lbragstad(getting the app cred stuff gating would be good since it's close)18:48
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lbragstadgagehugo: do you want to pick through the unified limits stuff first?18:48
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gagehugolbragstad yeah I can take a look at that18:48
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lbragstadgagehugo: thanks18:49
lbragstadthere is all the scope_types stuff, too (which cmurphy has already reviewed most of)18:49
gagehugoI think I looked at them last week, will take another look18:49
lbragstad(probably the lowest priority of the efforts though)18:49
knikollathat should be easy reviews for the most part. and will block the gate for an entire day if we approve them all.18:50
lbragstadwe might be able to send a few through in batches18:50
* lbragstad isn't a CI wizard though18:50
gagehugoor push them through later in the day18:51
* knikolla shrugs18:51
lbragstadgagehugo: yeah - that might work, too18:51
gagehugothings definitely run faster at 2am :)18:51
knikollagood thinking. we can +2, and delay the +A for late night hours18:51
lbragstadso long as two other cores +2 i'18:52
lbragstadi'll +A at night if no one is around and the queue is clear18:52
lbragstad(as long as people are OK with the process there)18:52
cmurphyno one should be afraid to +A things, if it waits it waits but it's not going to knock over infra18:52
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lbragstadthat works too, i'm going to be watching patches closely for the next few days anyway18:54
knikollacmurphy: you're right. I just feel like those are lower priority, so causing something higher priority which might need a respin to wait might be suboptimal. but whatever works.18:54
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lbragstad#action lbragstad and hrybacki to review application credentials during office hours18:56
lbragstad#action knikolla to review system scope during office hours18:56
lbragstad#action gagehugo and lbragstad to review unified limits during office hours18:56
lbragstadanything else people want to go through for reviews?18:57
hrybackithat's a pretty solid start :)18:58
lbragstadi'm happy with that plan18:58
lbragstadgive folks a minute to stretch their legs before getting started18:58
lbragstadthanks all!18:58
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ianwhello meeting fans19:01
ianw#startmeeting infra19:01
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ianw#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:02
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ianw#topic Announcements19:02
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ianw#info Clarkb and fungi missing January 23rd meeting due to travel.19:02
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ianwthus you have me, and pabelanger ready to point out what i've messed up :)19:02
ianw#info OpenDev being folded into Vancouver Summit. Note this changes the dates and location for the event.19:03
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ianw#link http://www.opendevconf.com/19:03
ianwthis one is all about ci/cd, so probably of interest to most people here19:03
ianw#info Vancouver Summit CFP open. Submit your papers and/or volunteer to be on the programming committee.19:04
ianw#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126192.html19:04
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pabelangerthere is also a ML post my dmsimard about ideas for talks19:04
ianw#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005808.html19:04
ianwdmsimard: ^19:05
dmsimardOh opendev is folded into summit19:05
dmsimardI guess it'll replace the concept of open source days which I actually asked about19:05
pabelangernot sure, I think it is still up in the air19:06
pabelangerbut, just heard about the move today myself19:06
dmsimardIt's weird because their answer is a bit ambiguous19:06
dmsimardTwitter was probably not the right medium to ask in the first place19:06
ianw"The Vancouver Tracks are a bit different than usual and are open to fellow open source projects. We're encouraging @ansible and @kubernetesio talks to be submitted! Send by Feb 8!"19:07
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ianwa lot of the sydney talks were about 60% kubernetes anyway :)19:07
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corvusyeah, on the opendev call on friday they suggested that some amount of redirecting cicd talks to opendev may take place.  and opendev would be 2 days that run concurrently with the summit.19:08
corvusso some of us may be double booked.19:08
corvuswe may have to try to schedule forum sessions during the not-opendev days19:08
ianwsounds like WIP, but if you've got a good talk, it will find a home somewhere19:09
corvusi guess regardless, submit talks and they should eventually end up in the right place :)19:09
ianw#info Zuul has mailing lists http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005800.html19:09
ianw#info PTG topic brainstorming happening now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-rocky-ptg19:09
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ianwnot much more to say, all ideas welcome19:11
* mordred waves19:11
ianw#topic Actions from last meeting19:11
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ianw#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-01-16-19.01.log.txt19:11
ianwif we've grepped correctly ...19:11
ianwACTION: corvus patchbomb project name removals from zuul.yaml19:12
ianwi'm not sure i saw that?19:13
corvusi will do that this week now that we have more ram19:13
corvus#action corvus patchbomb project name removals from zuul.yaml19:13
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ianwACTION: clarkb to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes19:13
AJaegercorvus: I updated the docs projects already - and whenever I edit a zuul.yaml, remove the project stanza. So, 10+ less projects ;)19:13
corvusAJaeger: cool, being lazy is working out!19:14
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corvusianw: on that front, i did abandon about 40 zuul changes with nice messages19:14
corvusthere's still probably about 60 for folks to go through and think about more (i only did a superficial pass based on commit message subject, basically)19:15
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ianwok, i think that's a constant background thing for every project19:15
corvusyeah, we just have a surplus at the moment because of feature branch myopia19:16
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ianwok, do we want to put it back for next time to remember to talk about it again?19:17
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ianw#action clarkb / corvus / everyone / to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes19:18
ianwACTION: corvus send email to openstack-dev, openstack-infra, zuul-announce about feature branch merge19:18
ianwi think we're all good there ...19:18
corvusthat's done19:18
ianw#topic Specs approval19:18
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ianw#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005779.html Cleanup old specs.19:19
pabelangerI still need to look at my old specs myself19:19
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ianwi don't think there was any disagreement with that mail19:20
pabelangerI don't believe so19:20
ianwlet's put in an action item to abandon them, so we don't forget19:21
ianw#action clarkb abandon specs per: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005779.html19:22
ianwother than that, i didn't see anything updated past the great jenkins removal of '1719:22
ianw#topic Priority Efforts19:23
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ianw#topic Storyboard19:23
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ianwmordred: anything of note?19:23
ianwlet's loop back if so19:24
mordredianw: nothing from my end19:24
ianwthanks :)19:24
ianw#topic Zuul v319:24
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ianwI think the server replacement has gone ok?19:25
AJaegerianw: yes, works nicely as far as I can see19:26
AJaegerlet's wait for corvus stress test ;)19:26
ianwand then the other thing is the feature branch merge19:27
ianwi imagine if you had changes in flight you've already moved them over19:27
ianw#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv2-outstanding-change-triage19:28
ianwpabelanger: ^ anything to say on that ... just go through it as people have time?19:28
pabelangerianw: yah, I think when people have time. feature/zuulv3 has been merged into master already19:29
ianwok, anything i'm missing?19:30
pabelangernothing else from me19:31
ianwi saw a couple of newish waves too, not zuul has it's own meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul19:31
ianw#topic General topics19:32
ianw#topic Handling review spam (frickler)19:32
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ianw#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2018-01-22.log.html#t2018-01-22T11:53:2019:32
ianw#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2017-12-22.log.html#t2017-12-22T09:57:3919:32
fricklernot sure we need a big discussion here, just wanted to make sure that folks are aware of that19:32
corvusthanks... after reviewing the irc logs, i think that's all good.19:33
corvusi'm not sure we need to suspend accounts based on activity like that, but unresponsiveness after contacting them seems like a really good reason.19:33
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ianwyep, do we think it was robotic?19:34
ianwi do seem to get random +1's as others do, but it seems quite sporadic19:34
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fricklerno, didn't look like a bot, too irregular for that19:35
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ianwcool, well if you're doing odd things and we can't contact you to discuss it, i think that's pretty solid19:36
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ianwand i think we're all in agreement discussion is the first step19:36
ianwso yay us :)19:36
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ianw#topic aarch64 update19:37
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ianwSo linaro have very kindly offered us aarch64 resources for CI19:37
ianw#link https://review.openstack.org/53618719:37
ianwmordred: ^ if you can take another pass over that (linaro credentials)19:38
hrwyay us!19:38
ianwon the infra side, I'm trying to get a Xenial image up so we can see just how far off our deployment stuff is from working19:38
ianwi got some notes back today about some more flags to try booting the image, and will take that up today19:39
ianwi'll see how it all goes and send an email or reviews or whatever19:39
mordredianw: sure nuff!19:39
gemaianw: +1, let us know19:39
ianwso, in theory, we should be able to bring up a nodepool builder and mirror in our control plane account19:40
hrwianw: Xinliang can be helpful as due to living in China he is closer to your timezone19:40
ianwthe other side is ... what is the nodepool builder going to build19:41
pabelangerare we planning on running all jobs on the cloud or subset of them?19:41
gemapabelanger: kolla subset to start with19:41
hrwianw: kolla guys want to build images afaik19:41
gemapabelanger: they've offered to be first19:42
ianwmy thought is that it would be a separate node type, and we'd start like that19:42
gemahrw: and run tests19:43
ianwxenial-aarch64 or something like that, and define separate jobs19:43
pabelangerwould we gate jobs on the cloud? Or just pipeline specific for aarch64?19:43
ianwi imagine it would be a very soft start19:43
gemapabelanger: from discussions with fungi and inc0, we start small19:43
ianwgema has expressed that capacity and performance are still scaling up19:44
gemalet other teams try if they want19:44
gemaand then grow capacity19:44
gemayep, we are working on that in the background19:44
pabelangersure, I'm thinking we might have it setup like we do with tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 today, jobs opt into a pipeline with aarch64 nodes19:44
pabelangerbut, we aren't there yet19:45
ianwyep, i think that's a good option as a model too19:46
hrwfirst let get base stuff running19:46
ianwso yeah, it's going to be easiest if we can get dib building images just like everywhere else19:46
ianwto that end we've been working on gpt/efi support19:47
ianw#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dib-efi19:47
hrwianw: thanks again for doing most of work19:48
ianwI'm pretty confident we'll get that going, which would be easier than going back to snapshot images or something19:48
hrwfinding out how dib is layered was making me mad19:48
pabelangeragree, getting DIB working should be first step19:50
corvuspabelanger: why a pipeline?19:50
corvusoh, because we only have one cloud?19:50
hrwwith current set of patches we are at point where resulting images should be bootable19:50
pabelangercorvus: yah, single cloud question19:50
corvuscool, any plans yet to add a second?  or see how things go first?19:51
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gemacorvus: the second is in the making19:51
gemamore hw is coming to the first or the second or the third19:51
gemaand we'll add capacity as it reaches us and we spin up new clouds19:51
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gemacorvus: depending on the member they ship us hardware to different datacenters and it is our job to make it available via developer cloud amongst other projects19:52
corvuscool.  i think once we have some confidence that a cloud blip won't cause projects to get stuck, we can fold the new pipeline back into the normal check pipeline.19:52
hrwand that keeps gema happy cause servers stop stacking on her desk19:52
gemahrw: absolutely19:52
gemacorvus: new cloud being span up in UK short after Queens releases19:52
pabelangercorvus: +119:53
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ianwoh, the one other thing i wanted to run by the peanut gallery is if we should switch infra images to GPT based boot by default19:53
hrwgema: and it will be running queens ;D19:53
gemahrw: hopefully19:53
ianwthat would effectively make it the default19:53
hrwgema: I do not take other option19:53
hrwianw: and do we want rootfs on vda1 or do not care19:53
ianwright, it involves extra partitions19:54
hrwthe good part is GPT allows us to number partition like we want19:54
hrwcirros has ESP as part15 and rootfs as part119:54
ianwi'm thinking that cinder, etc, are all pretty isolated from this19:55
hrwso we can have: ESP/15 + BSP/14 + rootfs/119:55
hrwthat way all projects assuming root=/dev/vda1 will still work19:55
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ianwi don't imagine anyone has an immediate response, but keep it in mind19:56
ianwanyway, thanks to hrw and gema and you'll be hearing more about it!19:57
gemaianw: thank you for your help :D19:57
hrwianw: we may merge gpt stuff without affecting x86 images19:57
gemay'all, actually :D19:57
ianw#topic Open discussion19:57
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hrwianw: then add block-image-aarch64.yaml which will be gpt: esp+root19:57
pabelangerI think infracloud might be dead, trying to see if I can get onto ilo of controller19:57
pabelangerbut we are expecting servers to be reclaimed by HPE19:58
corvuspabelanger: a timely reminder of why we like cloud diversity :)19:58
ianwhrw: yeah, i think that's a first step19:58
hrwianw: 'do no harm' way19:58
hrwianw: so we get stuff to get aarch64 running and in meantime x86 devs can try gpt images19:59
hrw99% of x86 VM instances are i440fx/bios ones anyway20:00
ianwok, that's time for us ... come by #openstack-infra for more discussions!20:00
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hrwhave a nice day20:01
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martialwelcome Stig21:00
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oneswigMartial, take it away... :-)21:00
martial#startmeeting Scientific-SIG21:00
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martial#chair oneswig21:00
openstackCurrent chairs: martial oneswig21:00
martial#chair b1airo21:00
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo martial oneswig21:00
oneswig#link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_January_23rd_201821:00
martialHello all21:01
oneswigWelcome back b1airo, how's the sea legs?21:01
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b1airoWell sadly I didn't end up getting the planned sailing trip, but did do a bit of exploring around the peninsula and free diving21:02
martialsounds fun nonetheless21:03
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martialwelcome back21:03
oneswigHi Nick!21:03
b1airoWas good21:03
yankcrimehey oneswig21:03
oneswigb1airo: did M3 stay up without you? :-)21:04
b1airoHa! Mostly. It was down briefly for lustre expansion21:04
oneswigBTW any word from Nvidia on firmware that doesn't take down the hypervisor?21:04
b1airoSecurity wise?21:05
b1airoNo, I think pushing that would require a working exploit21:05
jmloweHey Bob21:06
oneswigHi Bob21:06
oneswigOK, shall we get going?21:06
oneswig#topic Vancouver summit21:07
b1airoAnd let's face it, the public cloud peeps doing GPUs have more to worry about right now with Spectre and Meltdown still largely unfixed!21:07
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b1airoI'd like to talk to the OVH folks at some point though21:07
oneswigb1airo: A good time to run bare metal (for a change)21:07
martialSo the CFP for talks for the Summit has been posted21:08
martial#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-categories21:08
martialif you have an idea for a talk please enter the requested information before the deadline (Feb 8?)21:08
oneswigmartial: are you planning to speak this time round?21:09
martial#link https://t.e2ma.net/click/qi5vw/62zxny/27cwli21:09
b1airoI think I like the category reworking this time around21:09
martial#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/call-for-presentations/21:10
martialoneswig: as in despite our usual sessions?21:10
oneswigright, be good to hear more about what you're up to!21:10
oneswigI think the topic categories all look good, it's better than having University/Research tucked away under "government" (or whatever it was)21:12
oneswigsomewhat reminiscent of "beware of the leopard"21:13
b1airoWhat about you oneswig ? I'm not sure if I'll get to Vancouver again yet, would certainly like to if only for the beer selection ;-)21:13
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martialgood point, let me see what can be done21:13
oneswigb1airo: there's beer?  That's that decided :-)21:14
jmloweI suppose that's a good question, who thinks they can go?21:14
jmlowe+1 myself21:14
b1airoProbably, but haven't talked about travel budgets for the year yet21:15
martialplanning to21:15
oneswigI am hoping to, and Belmiro and I might put forward a talk again21:16
b1airoIf I have to choose it'd be Germany21:16
jmloweI think Bob, and Tim Randles have said yes21:16
jmloweSC'18 is a heart breaker conflicting with the Berlin summit21:16
rbuddenI need to get official approval, but the plan is to attend Vancouver21:17
rbuddenand +1 to jmlowe about Berlin/SC21:17
b1airoWe may recycle the Cumulus talk proposal, but that's really more a vendor thing and not particularly OpenStack specific21:17
oneswigSeems they don't support bare metal as yet, now that would be an interesting combination21:19
b1airoYeah, we have just kicked off a project to migrate the network in our second DC to Cumulus and I'm trying to throw that into the pot21:20
oneswigb1airo: let me know what happens21:21
oneswigjmlowe: before I forget, I had a question about the LUG meeting at IU.21:21
jmloweoneswig: sure21:22
oneswigDid you attend the DDN talk on Lustre for OpenStack?21:22
b1airoWhat special requirements does Ironic have from the network in this regard oneswig ? I kinda thought if their ML2 driver worked then it should be doable...?21:22
jmloweoneswig: I caught one talk, it was lustre for cinder21:22
oneswigb1airo: it's about creating access ports for bare metal nodes, rather than (effectively) trunk ports for hypervisor nodes21:22
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oneswigjmlowe: anything happen on that since?21:23
b1airoI.e. "access" ports?21:23
oneswigb1airo: the same.  Untagged ports in a specific vlan, that's all.  Not something that ML2 drivers with physical network awareness have to do otherwise.21:23
jmloweoneswig: I'm not sure, it was at the most rudimentary level possible, simply loopback files on a lustre filesystem if I remember correctly21:24
b1airoSounds like it warrants a lab setup21:24
oneswigjmlowe: really just a proof-of-concept then, I guess?21:24
jmloweoneswig: nothing that couldn't be accomplished with a simple path manipulation in stock cinder21:25
smcginnisoneswig, jmlowe: Someone actually has proposed a lustre Cinder driver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395572/21:25
oneswigb1airo: we've used networking-generic-switch in this role before, might port to Cumulus21:25
smcginnisThey just have not followed through with all the requirements to have it accepted yet.21:25
jmloweoneswig: I'm not sure there was even a concept to prove21:25
oneswigThanks smcginnis, useful to know21:26
b1airooneswig: probably, will look into it - also have an email from you somewhere here I didn't get to while on holiday!21:26
smcginnisMight be worth pinging them if there is interest to have that available.21:26
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oneswigseems like they've not progressed it for ~9 months, but perhaps it can be reinvigorated21:29
oneswigOK shall we move on?21:30
oneswig#topic PTG wish list21:31
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oneswigI'm hoping to attend the PTG in Dublin in about a month.21:31
oneswigThe OpenStack Foundation invited us to book some time in the cross-project sessions for Scientific SIG activities21:31
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oneswigRight now, we'd like to gather areas of interest21:32
oneswigWe have preemptible instances, Ironic deploy steps, cinder multi-attach, some other bare metal use cases.21:32
oneswigWhat do people want to see?21:33
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rbuddenI know Tim and I were interested in Ironic diskless boot21:33
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rbuddenTim more so than me21:34
b1airo+1 to jump-starting the preemption spec21:34
jmlowe+1 prempt21:34
oneswigThese are all topics that are underway and active to varying degrees.21:34
jmlowe+1 ironic diskless boot (especially if it could be ceph backed)21:34
oneswigIt's about redoubling the effort to produce something we really need.21:34
priteaujmlowe: I believe you can already boot ironic nodes from Cinder volumes (which could be stored on Ceph)21:35
oneswigjmlowe: that's an interesting take on it.  I think all discussion to date has been around iscsi not rbd21:35
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oneswighi priteau, snap :-)21:36
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jmlowelet's say you wanted to boot a 20k ironic cluster in under 30 min, ceph's scale out is probably your only hope21:36
b1airoPresumably the initial netboot image could mount an RBD, but probably means you have to be happy to let the bare-metal node have access to your Ceph nodes21:37
oneswigjmlowe: would certainly help.  Got some nice graphs earlier this week showing ceph scaling client load better than gpfs21:37
priteauI haven't tried this feature (we're on Ocata), I see the doc mentions iSCSI: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/admin/boot-from-volume.html21:37
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jmlowerbudden might be interested in that as well21:38
oneswigpriteau: one issue is, in jmlowe's example we have 20k nodes = 20k volumes21:38
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oneswigthin-provisioning - how far would that get you?21:38
rbuddenI believe what Tim was looking for was more akin to booting a ramdisk21:38
rbuddenthen RO mount of /21:39
jmloweI'm thinking relative to thinly provisioned storage ramdisks move more data across the wire during boot21:39
rbuddenso one image (as oneswig mentions) instead of thousands of Cinder volumes21:39
rbuddenI admit that cinder boot from volume solves my problem (as we only have 4 superdomes without disks)21:40
rbuddenon my todo list to test ;)21:40
oneswigonly 4 superdomes and you couldn't afford disks for them? :-)21:40
priteauoneswig: good point, I didn't think about that. But could you boot all nodes from the same volume read-only volume, and then use overlayfs for writes?21:41
rbuddenoneswig: no place for local drives, was easier/cheaper to just netboot them ;)21:42
oneswigpriteau: I think there's something in that.  Currently, the cinder multi-attach work doesn't cover this use case, as far as I understand, and enable cacheing of data for a volume that is (and always will be) read-only everywhere21:42
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priteauTim's use case of booting into a ramdisk is useful anyway, a cloud may not have cinder, or not a performant / HA one21:43
oneswigThere was also reference to using kexec to cut boot time, right?21:43
rbuddenpriteau: agreed. I’d love to have all nodes in Ironic instead of 4 stragglers done manually21:44
rbuddenoneswig: +1 kexec would be great since boot reboot times on HPC nodes is killer21:44
rbuddenhalf the reason we manage software stacks via puppet instead of an ironic reimage is due to reimage time because of the multiple reboots necessary21:45
priteauoneswig: that I would like for Chameleon, it could cut our (frequent) deployment time by almost half21:45
jmlowewhat, you don't want to post a couple of TB of ram or something?21:45
rbuddenwell the superdome’s heh… yeah that’s even worse ;)21:45
oneswigAny other items for the wish list?21:46
jmlowethese release are getting down right boring, we almost have a fully functional cloud operating system21:46
oneswigsteady on...21:47
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martialjmlowe :)21:48
oneswigOK, ok, I'll add "fully functional cloud OS" to the list21:48
oneswig#topic AOB21:49
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b1airoWhere did ttx's release cycle thread end up, I lost track ?21:49
oneswigLongest thread in history, I believe21:50
jmlowe5 weeks to queens!21:50
b1airoAny popular proposal found for board consideration?21:50
oneswigdidn't follow it to conclusion, alas21:51
b1airoI'll go looking for a dumpster fire in my inbox... ;-)21:51
oneswigb1airo: might be in among occasional references to something called "meltdown"...21:53
b1airoI have to say I'm still amazed at the complete and utter debacle of Meltdown et al21:54
b1airoHas anyone else been watching Linus flame Intel devs?21:56
oneswigJust saw something along those lines...21:56
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b1airoClassic tech industry case study: "This is why we can't have nice things"21:57
b1airo"(also AI will murder us all - in our sleep if we're lucky)"21:58
oneswigon that happy note, we are almost out of time21:58
martial+1 on both21:58
oneswigto the end of the meeting, not AI-fuelled armageddon...21:58
martialsure :)21:59
oneswigThanks all, until next time22:00
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priteaubye all!22:01
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