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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 02:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 16 02:34:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:34 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:34 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 02:34 |
| ekcs | hello all. topics kept here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 02:34 |
| ekcs | please read/comment/add =) | 02:34 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: hi | 02:34 |
| ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! | 02:34 |
| ekcs | how’s it been? | 02:34 |
| ramineni_ | good :) thanks | 02:37 |
| ekcs | great! | 02:38 |
| ekcs | #topic releases | 02:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:39 | |
| ekcs | quick announcement that we released 5.0.1 (Ocata) and 6.0.1 (Pike) | 02:39 |
| ekcs | to include the eventlet workaround | 02:39 |
| ekcs | any questions or comments? | 02:40 |
| ramineni_ | No | 02:41 |
| ekcs | ok great. hope that makes it out to people quickly for those who have issues starting congress on the new ubuntu update. | 02:41 |
| ekcs | #topic rocky planning | 02:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rocky planning (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 02:41 | |
| ekcs | As mentioned last time, I’ve started a rocky planning and brainstorming etherpad here | 02:42 |
| ekcs | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-rocky-brainstorm | 02:42 |
| ekcs | please take some time to brain dump some ideas there so we can plan out what to focus on for rocky. | 02:43 |
| ekcs | I’ve started filling out some tihngs and it’s amazing how ideas flow once you start writing freely =) | 02:43 |
| ekcs | any thoughts or questions or comments? | 02:44 |
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| ramineni_ | Great ..I'll have look at them ..and fill out anything I find in week or two | 02:46 |
| ekcs | awesomeness. | 02:46 |
| ekcs | looking forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas there! | 02:46 |
| ekcs | also on the topic of rocky planning, i’m hoping to have a telecon sync-up the week after the PTG. I also sent out an email about it on the ML. | 02:47 |
| ekcs | here’s a link to indicate your availability so we can find the times that works best for everyone. | 02:47 |
| ekcs | #link http://whenisgood.net/2yxtikn | 02:47 |
| ekcs | the same link is available in the rocky planning etherpad. | 02:47 |
| ramineni_ | Sure .. I'll fill it out | 02:48 |
| ekcs | do let me know how you feel about doing a sync-up and whether that week is good/bad =) | 02:48 |
| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 02:49 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG suggestions | 02:49 |
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| ekcs | the PTG is coming up in a little over a week. | 02:50 |
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| ekcs | I’ll be there to interface with people and teams. any suggestions for teams/people I should talk to? | 02:50 |
| ekcs | I’m for sure going to be involved in the self-healing SIG. | 02:51 |
| ekcs | also hoping to talk to vitrage and monasca to hash how issues with push data source design. | 02:51 |
| ramineni_ | Ok ..nice ... | 02:53 |
| ramineni_ | Can't think of any as of now apart from them .will drop a mail if I have any | 02:54 |
| ekcs | perfect thanks! | 02:54 |
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| ekcs | ok anything else on our minds to bring up or discuss today? | 02:54 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 02:55 |
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| ramineni_ | Nothing from my side | 02:58 |
| ekcs | ok then! let’s end meeting then. hope you have a great friday. | 02:58 |
| ekcs | and happy lunar new year to those who look at that =) | 02:59 |
| ramineni_ | Thanks .you too :) ..bye | 02:59 |
| ekcs | bye! | 02:59 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 02:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 02:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 16 02:59:53 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-02-16-02.34.html | 02:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-02-16-02.34.txt | 02:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-02-16-02.34.log.html | 02:59 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 16 14:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | Good evening! | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | Good morning! | 14:00 |
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| amotoki | Good night! :p | 14:02 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: you going to Dublin? | 14:03 |
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| amotoki | mlavalle: yes | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | \o/ | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | you joining us for dinner on Thursday? | 14:03 |
| amotoki | i haven't checked it yet, but I will go. | 14:04 |
| amotoki | I will leave Dublin on Sat morning | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | at the top of the etherpad, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-rocky, please add your name. The format is: name (irc handle) days in Dublin yes/no dinner | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | This is where we are going for dinner on Thursday: http://thecelt.ie/ | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | Thanks :-) | 14:06 |
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| slaweq | hi | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: hi | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | we are waiting for a third driver to join and have quorum | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | so far it's amotoki and me | 14:12 |
| slaweq | I though that from what I see :) | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:12 |
| * haleyb had figured freenode went split brain there was such a long pause | 14:12 | |
| mlavalle | haleyb: just a few more hours and ...... off to the beach! | 14:13 |
| slaweq | lucky You haleyb :) | 14:13 |
| haleyb | yes, it's hard to work today, my next work day is Dublin | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | you flying tomorrow? | 14:14 |
| haleyb | monday morning, but a lot of things this weekend | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | ahhh, have fun! | 14:14 |
| haleyb | thanks! | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: while we wait, do you think we should discuss those ECN proposals in Dublin? | 14:15 |
| slaweq | IMO this one which reedip proposed is quite clear | 14:15 |
| slaweq | but this second one - yes :) | 14:16 |
| slaweq | maybe it's worth to talk with author of this proposal | 14:16 |
| slaweq | I will not be in Dublin unfortunately | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | ok, I'll add a time slot to the agenda to discuss QoS stuff. I'll put that proposal along with another one that Liu Yulong added to the etherpad | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | would you help me adding enough comments there so we can have enough context to discuss it in Dublin? | 14:18 |
| slaweq | sure, I will try to add my comments to etherpad at the beginning of next week | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: cool, thanks | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: let's assume we won't have quorum | 14:19 |
| amotoki | slaweq: regarding ECN stuff, I am not sure what kind of ECN support can be exposed as neutron-qos. I | 14:19 |
| amotoki | slaweq: previously I commented it in the rfe bug, but perhaps QoS team has a good view on it. | 14:19 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: no problem | 14:21 |
| slaweq | amotoki: there are 2 proposed RFE related to ECN | 14:21 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 14:21 |
| slaweq | this one is IMHO clear - neutron can enable ECN on routers/networks | 14:21 |
| slaweq | but user will need to enable it inside VMs if he will want to use it | 14:22 |
| slaweq | and second one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 14:22 |
| yamamoto | oops, sorry to be late | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: welcome | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: you still around? | 14:22 |
| slaweq | which is little bit different as author propose to measure and "react" by setting qos bw limits on ports if it is necessary | 14:22 |
| amotoki | yes :) | 14:23 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: the author of the second one claims he has PoC code | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | didn't he, slawek? | 14:24 |
| amotoki | to make ECN support work, we need end-to-end support of ECN including outside of openstack cloud | 14:24 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: I don't know about PoC | 14:25 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: ok | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: if you have a chance, please leave a comment in that second RFE. Thanks for your opinion | 14:25 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: ack. I wasn | 14:25 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: ack. I wasn't aware of the second one | 14:25 |
| slaweq | amotoki: I know, so reedip proposed that neutron can enable it on "neutron's stuff" like routers | 14:25 |
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| mlavalle | ok let's get moving | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | First of all, this is our patch for RC2: | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/544749/ | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | once we merge that, we will be done with Queens | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | This is what we were targeting in that RC2: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-rc2 | 14:28 |
| amotoki | dashboard stuffs will be released next week too. | 14:28 |
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| mlavalle | Thanks for that update | 14:28 |
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| mlavalle | Moving on to RFEs | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | First one we have this morning is: | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1748132 | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1748132 in neutron "[RFE] Can not create router gateway without external_fixed_ips" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Guoshuai Li (liguoshuai1990) | 14:29 |
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| haleyb | i believe there was a proposed patch | 14:31 |
| amotoki | we can see neutron-lib patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542106/ | 14:32 |
| amotoki | and neutron patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540806/ | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | ahh nice | 14:32 |
| haleyb | i had asked for a bug since it was a behavior/api change | 14:32 |
| amotoki | a big change is about the behavior. | 14:33 |
| yamamoto | i'd like to see a tempest scenario for features like this | 14:33 |
| amotoki | I wonder who requests "no IP address for a gateway port" | 14:33 |
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| amotoki | it is an improvement as operator side (they can save IP addresses), but from user perspective users do not care it in most cases | 14:35 |
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| amotoki | if we change the default value, it would be a big change, so I wonder what is the right direction of this rfe. | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | so your concern is backwards compatibility? | 14:36 |
| haleyb | so this would be no default snat IP? | 14:37 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: yes if we change the default value. | 14:37 |
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| amotoki | haleyb: that's my understandng | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | what is the default value now? | 14:38 |
| amotoki | the current default behavior is to assign an IP address from an external net. | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | ah ok, more than a value, you are referring to the bahavior | 14:38 |
| yamamoto | is anyone suggesting to change the default behaviour? i thought it was about providing a way to create a gateway port without ip. | 14:38 |
| amotoki | this proposal is to allow to specify no IP address for an external gateway IP. | 14:39 |
| amotoki | this works but even after that most users do not specify "no IP address" in most cases. | 14:39 |
| amotoki | so my question is how operators can leverage this feature to save their global IP addresses. | 14:40 |
| amotoki | I am okay with the current request itself. my question might see too much | 14:41 |
| haleyb | they can also use subnet service types today to save global IP addresses | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | so, if the user / deployer doesn't use this new api call, the default behavior is the same as currently, right? | 14:42 |
| yamamoto | mlavalle: that's my understanding | 14:42 |
| amotoki | yes | 14:42 |
| amotoki | this rfe just allows to specify [] as external_fixed_ips | 14:42 |
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| mlavalle | also haleyb's observation is correct | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | here's what I propose we do: | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | 1) haleyb can suggest in the RFE the use of service subnets to address the use case, i.e. saving publicly available ip address | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | if for some reason we discover that doesn't fly, then: | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | 2) we indicate in the RFE that the current default behavior should remain | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | does that make sense? | 14:45 |
| amotoki | totally agree | 14:45 |
| haleyb | the one downside to not having an IP is you can't determine if the router is reachable externally, but as long as they understand that's a limitation... | 14:45 |
| yamamoto | sounds reasonable | 14:45 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sounds good, i just made more work for myself :) | 14:45 |
| haleyb | job security | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: LOL | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | but if I remember correctly, saving public IP addresses is THE service subnets use case, right? | 14:46 |
| SotK | I'm sure it will | 14:46 |
| SotK | w/w, sorry | 14:47 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: yes | 14:47 |
| amotoki | even if we use service type subnets, a user cannot get reachable IPs but an operator can check IP reachability. | 14:47 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: yes, target was DVR since we have all the routers on compute nodes | 14:47 |
| amotoki | the only difference is users will see unreachable IP address (from users) vs no IP address. | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | ok, cool, we have a plan for this one | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690425 | 14:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690425 in neutron "[RFE] neutron cells aware" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | Last time we talked about this one, we agreed that next step is to create a PoC | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | the only thinng I want to mention is that I will bring it up during the PTG, to give it visibility and see if we get volunteers | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 14:50 |
| amotoki | +1 | 14:50 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1715386 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1715386 in neutron "[RFE]Support routing traffic based on subnet" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6) | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | I see that yamamoto provided feedback in the spec on this one | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | I have to go over it again myself | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | over the next 4 or 5 days, China is celebratin New Year | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | so we won't see a response from Zhaobo | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | it may be a good opportunity for me and amotoki to provide feedback in the spec | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | any other comments | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | ? | 14:53 |
| amotoki | yeah, i haven't got a chance to review it. let me try | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 14:53 |
| yamamoto | i'm still celebrating new year as i still have mochi to eat. | 14:53 |
| amotoki | so it seems better to add some comment to the RFE bug itself | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: that's the way to go, celebrate all year long. LOL | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: whichever way you prefer | 14:54 |
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| amotoki | something like "we are assessing this RFE in the spec proposed" | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | ok | 14:55 |
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| mlavalle | good point amotoki | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1720727 | 14:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1720727 in neutron "[RFE] (Operator-only) Add support 'firewall_group' for loggable resource type" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:55 |
| yamamoto | i guess it's fine to approve as far as fwaas team is ok | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | yes, they seem to be ok with it | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | any concerns amotoki? | 14:58 |
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| amotoki | i'm fine to approve it. | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | ok, cool, approved it is | 14:58 |
| amotoki | the author proposed a spec on this | 14:59 |
| amotoki | do we continue to review it? | 14:59 |
| amotoki | i think it is good to have | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | of course, RFEs are supposed to be a step before the spec | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | and the spec is where we flesh it out | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | Please remember that this meeting won't take place on Friday March 2nd, as we will be in Dublin attending PTG. Next Friday meeting wil be March 16th | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for attending | 15:01 |
| amotoki | how about the next week? | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 16 15:01:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-02-16-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-02-16-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-02-16-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: will you be travelling already on Thursday? | 15:01 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: no. | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | so let's give it a try then | 15:02 |
| amotoki | ah I see. both meetings are on Friday in my timezone | 15:02 |
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| mlavalle | yeah | 15:02 |
| amotoki | understood :) | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | the difference is that next week it is Friday morning your time | 15:02 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 16 15:04:31 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx, armstrong | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Agenda/Tracking | 15:05 |
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| smcginnis | Guess it's a small group today. :) | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | #topic RC status | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC status (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:06 | |
| smcginnis | We have a few teams that have put up RC2 patches. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | A few already went through, and a few are up with -W indicating more to come. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | I've also heard from a few other groups that they are planning on early next week for another. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | Anyone aware of any issues with teams prepping an RC2|3? | 15:07 |
| fungi | just tripleo getting surprised by stable/queens branches, but that's not really rc-specific | 15:08 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah... that was an issue. | 15:08 |
| fungi | more them not realizing they had some deliverables in cycle-with-intermediary which missed the branching deadline | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | Thanks to infra for helping sort out the cleanup. | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | They are at least aware now and plan on changing their model for rocky. | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | That was the only issue I saw with us forcing branching. | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | maybe that's also an indicator for us that we shouldn't create branches for folks? | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Well, that would be ideal. | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | we should think through the ramifications of a policy that says if they don't create a branch, they just don't have one. | 15:10 |
| fungi | the flip side is that things start breaking for some projects after requirements unfreezes | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | I thought we did though, and we determined we kind of had to. | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | we did because there were already releases | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | so maybe during that period we are more strict about requiring them to indicate they are ready to branch | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | I'd have to go through the logs again to find the reasoning I came up with, but I thought it was tied to them having releases that weren't going to be part of the branch or something | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | or maybe I'm mixing up 2 issues | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | I've worked ahead on countdown emails for Rocky, and I've tried to mention several times that the release team does not want to be the ones initiating any kind of release or branching. | 15:12 |
| fungi | if memory serves, one concern in the still-syncing-reqs era is that if we branch things like libs from a point after the requirements unfreeze and they've merged a sync from master, we can end up with incompatible reqs between stable branches of different deliverables | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | fungi : ah, yes, that's it | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | so, when we *stop* syncing requirements we can stop forcing branches | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | I'm going to try to help prometheanfire and dirk with that this cycle | 15:13 |
| fungi | probably so. or at least we can try and see what else we've forgotten makes that a problem ;) | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | yes, what breaks in a new way :-) | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | OK, on to bitrot. | 15:15 |
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| smcginnis | Andrea has some patches up to update process in the new zuulv3 world. | 15:15 |
| fungi | i haven't looked at them... hopefully simpler than bulk-copying the stable/pike jobs? | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Which is much appreciated, because I looked at the previous examples and was lost. :) | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | fungi : I think we end up needing 1 more patch but they didn't look that complicated | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | fungi: I think so. They are open in tabs for me, but what I saw yesterday didn't look too bad. | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | props to andreaf for putting them together so quickly | 15:16 |
| fungi | duplicating the old legacy stable jobs would have been relatively straightforward, however it would have been a lot of patches and also carrying technical debt forward | 15:17 |
| fungi | so i'm glad he had time to put that together | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Very glad and much appreciated. | 15:17 |
| fungi | also the e-mail he sent to the ml (and corvus's followup) were a great recap | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | yes, we discussed that and he's going to try to send out regular updates | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Anything else we should discuss about RC status? | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | I feel like overall we are in pretty good shape now. | 15:18 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127453.html Migration of Tempest / Grenade jobs to Zuul v3 native | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | it looks like the neutron rc2 is ready for review | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Do you want to do Friday releases? I was thinking it might be better to wait until Monday to give time for any additional things to pop up. | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | hmm, good point | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | it's just an rc, so I don't know if it's better to be cautious or to let it out early to give people time to try it | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | I don't know how many people actually try the release candidates these days | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Either is fine with me really, just thinking at this point, we're getting close so it might be worth waiting a bit. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | True. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | I wonder how we could get feedback on that. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | We do a lot of things to help packagers and downstream folks, but never really hear much from them. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Unless something goes wrong of course. :) | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | the first 3 components only have tox settings updates and a g-r sync, so I'm not sure those are worth worrying about. After the meeting I'll read through the rest to see what else they have and we can talk about it. | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | Sounds good. | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : we could send "tracer bullets" by building bad packages at random intervals ;-) | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | #topic Team status next week through PTG | 15:22 |
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| fungi | i know at least some of the packagers do it in their "free" time and probably have more bandwidth on weekends than weekdays | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | I should be around all next week, but I leave Friday afternoon for Dublin IIRC. | 15:23 |
| fungi | same for me, though i leave saturday | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | I'll be around all week and leave Sat as well | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Good, sounds like we can have the meeting as usual then. | 15:24 |
| fungi | wfm | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | One thing with the PTG - I had to reschedule the team photo. | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | oh, yeah, what time slot did we end up in? | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Still right after the requirements team. Now I'm scrambling to find the spreadsheet... | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J2MRdVQzSyakz9HgTHfwYPe49PaoTypX66eNURsopQY/edit?usp=sharing | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | #info Tuesday 2:50 - 3:00 | 15:25 |
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| smcginnis | We will need to meet in the lobby I think, and get escorted over. | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | We do have a planning etherpad for the PTG: | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgt-ptg-rocky | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Nothing really on there yet. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | So please add anyting you want to make sure we cover while there. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Was the plan to meet on Thursday for our team work session? | 15:28 |
| fungi | looks like dst in dublin doesn't start until march 25, so we'll be on utc while we're there... convenient! | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | Oh good. | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | we need to do the release on wednesday, so we could meet after that. or have the work session thursday if that's more convenient. | 15:28 |
| fungi | for once i don't need to tz-convert all my appointments ;) | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Since it's a small group, I think we can probably play it by ear. | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | As far as processing the release - just grab a corner somewhere on Wednesday and work through it? | 15:29 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, just like we did in denver | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | we should have the patch up before then to give people time to +1 it | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | and then there are just a few steps to follow, iirc | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | So we can do that. Then if nothing urgent we can just continue on with the rest. Or we can break and regroup on Thursday. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | We can put up the patch late next week or early PTG week if the ripples haven't settled yet. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | we should verify the timing of the press release with someone from the foundation, but we can do that early in the week | 15:31 |
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| smcginnis | Anne joined us last time, right. Denver is a bit of a blur for me. | 15:32 |
| fungi | i can ask anne if she'll be around and up for it | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | #action fungi to check with Anne on Foundation involvement for final Queens release | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | it would be good to have her feedback on the highlights thing at least, though it may be early to tell | 15:33 |
| fungi | doing that now (she may not be awake yet though) | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, bit early for the west coast. | 15:33 |
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| smcginnis | I think there may be some cycle highlights she might want to update. | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | A couple teams went a little overboard from what I think our original vision for this was. | 15:34 |
| smcginnis | Which is a good problem to have. | 15:34 |
| smcginnis | But might be good to get her feedback on what is all out there now. | 15:34 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | I guess that's all I have. Anything else we should cover in meeting? | 15:35 |
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| dhellmann | nothing from me | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | OK, let's wrap it up then. Thanks everyone. | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 16 15:37:11 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-02-16-15.04.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-02-16-15.04.txt | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-02-16-15.04.log.html | 15:37 |
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