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| samP | Hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 04:00:25 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | Hi all | 04:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | hi | 04:00 |
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| samP | Today's main items is discuss Rocky work items. | 04:00 |
| samP | Any other items need to discuss before that? | 04:01 |
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| samP | Critical bugs/patches etc..? | 04:01 |
| rkmrHonjo | Can I talk about a bug? | 04:01 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: sure | 04:01 |
| rkmrHonjo | ok. I'd like to talk about #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+bug/1756047 | 04:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1756047 in python-masakariclient "masakari command failed due to os-service-type1.2.0" [Undecided,New] | 04:02 |
| rkmrHonjo | masakariclient uses os-service-type, but it doesn't work with os-service-type 1.2.0. | 04:02 |
| rkmrHonjo | (In queen, the upper version is 1.1.0.) | 04:03 |
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| rkmrHonjo | The cause of this bug was written in Launcpad: | 04:03 |
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| rkmrHonjo | > In os-service-types 1.2.0, "ha" service has been added to os_service_type/data/service-types.json. | 04:03 |
| rkmrHonjo | > So, if masakariclient tries add_service to openstack.connection.Connection object, then the error occurr. | 04:03 |
| rkmrHonjo | > However, if masakariclient don't add_service, it can not get the correct proxy class for masakari's operation. | 04:03 |
| rkmrHonjo | > Probably, the "ha" service of service-types.json is for use by masakari. | 04:03 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: I was able to reproduce this issue on my machine with "openstacksdk-0.11.3" and "os_service_types-1.2.0". | 04:03 |
| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh_Bhor: thank you for reproducing. | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | So, I think we should do 4 steps. | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | 1. Add a class about masakari to openstack-sdk. | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | 2. Bump openstack-sdk version in global requierments. | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | 3. Fix masakariclient to use the new version of openstack-sdk. | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | 4. Merge the patches changing service-type from "ha" to "instance-ha" #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126476.html | 04:04 |
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| rkmrHonjo | I and Takahara succeeded to modify openstack-sdk and masakariclient in our environment. | 04:05 |
| tpatil | Does you think #1 will be accepted by openstacksdk team? | 04:05 |
| tpatil | s/does/Do | 04:05 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I think that is no problem. Because it accept many official projects. | 04:05 |
| rkmrHonjo | So we are preparing to submit the patch to openstack-sdk after that. | 04:06 |
| tpatil | but in that case, we will need to move all code of sdk from masakariclient to openstacksdk, correct? | 04:06 |
| tpatil | Anyone tried to test masakari using stable/queens branch? | 04:07 |
| samP | I think Monty mention about (1) in some were.. | 04:07 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: No, we shouldn't do it in stable/queens branch. | 04:07 |
| rkmrHonjo | Because upper constraint version of os_service_type is 1.1.0 in stable/queens. | 04:07 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: yes, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126421.html | 04:08 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: That's another question, nothing to do with this bug | 04:08 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: yes..this was the first mail in the thread | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Oh, sorry. | 04:09 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | The question is "Is stable/queens branch of all masakari projects is working properly?" | 04:09 |
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| tpatil | Let's address stable/queens branch question later | 04:10 |
| samP | In stable/queens. except python-masakariclient, others are OK | 04:10 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Please continue | 04:10 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Takahara tried to use masakariclient with #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553319/ . And it worked. | 04:11 |
| rkmrHonjo | And, Louie Kwan said that this patch worked, too. | 04:11 |
| rkmrHonjo | I'm glad if you try this patch and review it. (Ofcourse I review it.) | 04:13 |
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| tpatil | ok, Let's review this patch and merge it in stable/queens branch | 04:14 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:15 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: Thanks for the proposal. #553319 is to fix stable/queens and your proposed steps 1-5 is to fix master. | 04:15 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: ok. | 04:16 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: There is no other way to fix this issue other than moving the code to openstacksdk | 04:17 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: Agree to review and merge #553319 to stable/queens. Let's discuss your proposed steps to fix master separately (in ML). | 04:17 |
| samP | tpatil: agree, even if we fixed it, then we will face same problem again in next release or sdk updates. | 04:18 |
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| tpatil | samP: I agree to move the code to openstacksdk but that's going to take lot of time. In the mean time, I was checking if there is any way to fix the problem in masakariclient | 04:19 |
| samP | tpatil: agree, thanks. | 04:19 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:19 |
| samP | Any other issues? | 04:20 |
| samP | If any please bring them after next topic | 04:21 |
| samP | #topic Rocky Work Items | 04:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky Work Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:21 | |
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| samP | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-rocky-work-items | 04:21 |
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| tpatil | Recovery method customization | 04:22 |
| samP | tpatil: go ahead | 04:22 |
| samP | Any changes on plan? | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Instead of supporting mistral driver to run recovery action workflow, I was thinking of adding recovery method customization support in the existing task flow driver | 04:23 |
| tpatil | we will add specs to add this support in task flow driver first | 04:23 |
| samP | tpatil: No objection on this. However, I would like to be this more configurable. | 04:25 |
| tpatil | samP: Yes, the existing workflow for each notifications will be broken down into separate tasks and operator can configure which tasks to be included to run a particular workflow (instance/host/process notifications) | 04:26 |
| tpatil | Anyone can write a new tasks in a separate library and include it in any workflow. This library should be installed on the host where masakari-engine is running | 04:27 |
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| samP | tpatil: Do you still need this lib, even if you only use task flow driver? | 04:28 |
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| samP | tpatil: I think we had this discussion in earlier, please update the spec for this. We can discuss in details on the spec. | 04:32 |
| samP | (2) Develop Masakari Horizon plugin | 04:32 |
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| samP | tpatil: came back :) | 04:32 |
| tpatil | sorry I lost my connection | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: NP | 04:33 |
| samP | my question was; Do you still need this lib, even if you only use task flow driver? | 04:33 |
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| tpatil | The default tasks will be part of masakari code. | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. | 04:33 |
| tpatil | but if operator wants customization, then the new tasks can be written in library | 04:34 |
| tpatil | for example sending SMS after disabling compute host | 04:34 |
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| tpatil | these new tasks will not be part of masakari code but it will reside in library which needs to be installed on masakari-engine node and then operator can configure it for host notification workflow | 04:35 |
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| samP | tpatil: understood. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | Any questions? | 04:36 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:36 |
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| tpatil | can we move to the next item ? | 04:37 |
| samP | No questions for now. please add this details to spec, I would like to discuss more about how Operator would add this new methods. | 04:37 |
| tpatil | samP: sure | 04:37 |
| samP | let's move to next item | 04:38 |
| samP | (2) Develop Masakari Horizon plugin | 04:38 |
| niraj_singh | Unit test cases are failing because of service descriptor bug. Other than that all good. | 04:38 |
| tpatil | It depends on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+bug/1756047 | 04:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1756047 in python-masakariclient "masakari command failed due to os-service-type1.2.0" [Undecided,New] | 04:38 |
| samP | just approved the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528647 | 04:40 |
| niraj_singh | samP:thanks | 04:40 |
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| samP | tpatil: niraj_singh: Thanks for doing this. This is heavy work. please ask if you need any help on this. | 04:41 |
| niraj_singh | samP: yes sure. Thanks | 04:42 |
| tpatil | samP: Most of the work has been completed by niraj_singh. Waiting for that bug to be fixed and he will push the patches for review | 04:43 |
| samP | OK, that's great...sorry for the blocker. | 04:43 |
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| samP | (3) Intrusive Instance Monitoring through QEMU Guest Agent | 04:44 |
| samP | Thanks for the review. | 04:44 |
| samP | Louie and Greg are working on this. Let's review the spec and code and support them to merge this feature in early Rocky. | 04:46 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | yes | 04:46 |
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| samP | Congratulations!! they got it on Lightning talk at Vancouver | 04:47 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Great!!! | 04:47 |
| rkmrHonjo | cheers | 04:48 |
| tpatil | That's amazing!! | 04:48 |
| samP | Its better we can finish this before Summit.. and it will be great support to them. | 04:48 |
| samP | (4) Add database purge support | 04:48 |
| tpatil | Needs code review | 04:48 |
| samP | tpatil: I will look into this. Sorry for the delay. | 04:49 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:49 |
| samP | All members: please review this patch.. | 04:50 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487430/ | 04:50 |
| samP | New Items | 04:51 |
| samP | #topic New Items for Rocky | 04:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Items for Rocky (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:51 | |
| samP | Sorry only have, 8 mins. | 04:51 |
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| samP | if we run out of time, will carry over to next week IRC meeting. | 04:51 |
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| samP | (1) Update notification state API | 04:52 |
| samP | Who will proceed this item? | 04:52 |
| rkmrHonjo | I wrote it. | 04:52 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: ok, Thanks. | 04:52 |
| samP | how far we done on this? | 04:53 |
| rkmrHonjo | Sorry, "how far"? | 04:54 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Ah, time span? | 04:54 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: sorry, this is a new item | 04:54 |
| samP | ;9 | 04:54 |
| samP | this is some thing like force change the state? | 04:55 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: yes. | 04:55 |
| rkmrHonjo | If operator recovers host manually while masakari-engine is crashed, I want to force disable notification. | 04:55 |
| samP | OK, we need new API for this, and I would like to have spc for this. | 04:56 |
| samP | is it possible to write a spec for this? | 04:56 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Yes. I start to write the spec. | 04:56 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: great. | 04:57 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:57 |
| samP | (2) Move some code from masakariclient to openstack-sdk | 04:57 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: I guess this also you. | 04:57 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:58 |
| samP | And we discussed part of this above. | 04:58 |
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| samP | We are running out of time. Let's discuss other items in next meeting. | 04:58 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, one quick question | 04:59 |
| samP | If you have any questions or comment on discussed items, please send them to ML | 04:59 |
| samP | tpatil: yes? | 04:59 |
| tpatil | the openstack sensible plugin blueprint should be created in openstack-ansible project and not masakari, correct? | 04:59 |
| tpatil | s/sensible/ansible | 04:59 |
| samP | tpatil: In Openstack ansible project | 04:59 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, thanks | 04:59 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sending periodic "unreleased" reports (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 05:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 05:00:03 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-03-20-04.00.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-03-20-04.00.txt | 05:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-03-20-04.00.log.html | 05:00 |
| samP | Thnks all | 05:00 |
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| chenying | #startmeeting karbor | 09:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 09:08:25 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:08 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:08 |
| chenying | weclome to karbor irc meeting. | 09:08 |
| chenying | ping jiaopengju | 09:09 |
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| jiaopengju | hi chenying | 09:10 |
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| chenying | Good afernoon. | 09:10 |
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| jiaopengju | :) | 09:10 |
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| chenying | we don't have any fixed topic today. Do you have anything want to discuss? | 09:11 |
| chenying | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/karbor-rocky | 09:11 |
| jiaopengju | not yet | 09:12 |
| jiaopengju | oh, I forget it, and will add it ASAP | 09:13 |
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| chenying | So if we have any idea and features about karbor in rocky, we can add it to this links. | 09:24 |
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| jiaopengju | ok | 09:29 |
| chenying | So I will end this meeting? | 09:30 |
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| chenying | #endmeeting | 09:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 09:40:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-03-20-09.08.html | 09:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-03-20-09.08.txt | 09:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-03-20-09.08.log.html | 09:40 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 16:00:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle won't be able to join us today | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, jlibosva | 16:01 |
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| jlibosva | o | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | / | 16:01 |
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| ihrachys | ok let's get going | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from prev meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| ihrachys | btw thanks slaweq for taking it over the prev time, appreciate it | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, you should probably become the chair for the meeting | 16:03 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: no problem :) | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | since you are the one who actually does most of the work :) you and jlibosva | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, I mean in generally | 16:03 |
| slaweq | maybe jlibosva then :) | 16:03 |
| slaweq | I don't think I'm experienced enought to do it all the time | 16:03 |
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| jlibosva | You did really well last time :) | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | nah I think you are a better long term shot ;) things I know... :) | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | ok as for action items | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | "slaweq to enable voting for fullstack" | 16:04 |
| slaweq | done | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/552686 | 16:04 |
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| ihrachys | was the change global for all queues? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552686/1/.zuul.yaml | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | or is it blocked from voting in gate somewhere else? | 16:05 |
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| slaweq | it is only for master branch and for check queue for now | 16:05 |
| slaweq | that is what we decided last time | 16:05 |
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| slaweq | if all will be fine we will add it to gate queue also, am I right? | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | oh I get it, it's not in gate jobs list | 16:06 |
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| slaweq | yes | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | yeah you are right, I am just bad at tech | 16:06 |
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| ihrachys | "slaweq to enable voting for linuxbridge scenarios" | 16:06 |
| slaweq | done also: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552689/ | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | democracy, everyone gets a vote | 16:07 |
| slaweq | and also only in check queue for now | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | + | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to take a look on dvr trunk tests issue" | 16:07 |
| jlibosva | ehm | 16:07 |
| jlibosva | I didn't | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | context: http://logs.openstack.org/32/550832/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/6d09fd8/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:07 |
| jlibosva | I'll try this week | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to take a look on dvr trunk tests issue: http://logs.openstack.org/32/550832/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/6d09fd8/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | great | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | "slaweq check reasons of failures of neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full" | 16:08 |
| slaweq | I checked it and I created bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1756301 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1756301 in neutron "Tempest DVR HA multimode tests fails due to no FIP connectivity" [High,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | context http://logs.openstack.org/14/529814/5/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/d8cfbdf/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:08 |
| slaweq | it looks that in all those cases failure is the same | 16:09 |
| slaweq | but I didn't do any debugging on this issue | 16:09 |
| slaweq | all of other cases which I checked issues were related to cinder volumes | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, that's weird. I would understand it if e.g. instance would crash because of volume attachment. | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | but it's clear it's something net related | 16:11 |
| slaweq | yes, In all those cases which are pointed in this bug report errors are related to neutron | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | at least one failure of those listed is in tempest.scenario.test_server_basic_ops.TestServerBasicOps | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | I don't think it's vol specific | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I was just saying that I found many other failures of this job with issues not related to network but related to cinder | 16:11 |
| slaweq | sorry if I wasn't clear :) | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | I see. | 16:12 |
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| ihrachys | well, the bug is reported. is someone will have cycles they can take it | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | "slaweq switch scenario jobs to lib/neutron" | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, I am missing context on that one. while it's good to move there, I don't think we did for gate or any other jobs. | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | so what's special about scenarios? | 16:13 |
| slaweq | nothing, I just wanted to start with something :) | 16:13 |
| slaweq | so I send a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552689/ even | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | to switch one scenario job to zuul v3 | 16:14 |
| slaweq | sorry, wrong link, this one is good: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552846/13 | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | but in meantime devstack-tempest job was switched back to lib/neutron-legacy so this will not switch our job to using lib/neutron for now | 16:15 |
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| slaweq | but I still think that it could be good to start moving jobs to zuul v3 definitions | 16:15 |
| slaweq | what You think about that? | 16:15 |
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| ihrachys | yeah that's good. I am not sure if that helps with lib/neutron target but we should move to the new format regardless. | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | we talked with slaweq and we agreed it would be good to migrate and then once devstack-tempest is switched, we'll get it for free | 16:16 |
| slaweq | exactly, thx jlibosva :) | 16:16 |
| slaweq | so please review it if You will have some time :) | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | fair | 16:18 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:18 |
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| jlibosva | I looked but I don't feel like I understand the zuul thingy completely so I'm not comfortable +2'ing | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:18 |
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| ihrachys | there was some suspicious fullstack spike a day ago. while some other jobs also spikes at the same time, the fullstack chart doesn't seem to have recovered completely. | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | any ideas what's the spike about? | 16:20 |
| slaweq | today I spotted 2 or 3 times issue like described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757089 | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757089 in neutron "Fullstack test_port_shut_down(Linux bridge agent) fails quite often" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:21 |
| slaweq | I started debugging it even but haven't found anything yet | 16:21 |
| slaweq | I think it is some kind of race between finishing configuration of port and setting it to admin_state_up = False | 16:21 |
| slaweq | but I'm not sure yet | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | yeah I haven't seen this test case failing before | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, are you planning to dig it further or we should have someone else on it? | 16:22 |
| slaweq | yes, I will take care of this one | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | the job just moved to voting so it would be nice to tackle that before people start complaining :) | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | great! | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | another change in grafana worth discussion is that dvr-scenarios seem to be at 100% now | 16:23 |
| slaweq | but I don't know if this is the only issue with fullstack | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | since 4 days ago | 16:23 |
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| ihrachys | failure example: http://logs.openstack.org/76/550676/10/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/1c3297a/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | haleyb, ideas what's broken in dvr scenarios job? | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | ok here are errors: http://logs.openstack.org/76/550676/10/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/1c3297a/logs/screen-q-l3.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | "NetlinkError: (99, 'Cannot assign requested address')" | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, I believe that's your pyroute2 patch | 16:26 |
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| slaweq | ihrachys: it can be | 16:27 |
| slaweq | I will check that one ASAP | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | #action slaweq to check why dvr-scenario job is broken with netlink errors in l3 agent log | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | interesting that it doesn't happen in linuxbridge | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, btw jlibosva left so we are two now | 16:30 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: ok | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:30 |
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| ihrachys | there are some existing bug reports that we could take a look at since we have half an hour | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=fullstack&orderby=status&start=0 | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | I will ignore wishlist bugs | 16:31 |
| slaweq | sure | 16:31 |
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| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757089 | 16:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757089 in neutron "Fullstack test_port_shut_down(Linux bridge agent) fails quite often" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | this one we already discussed, it's the new failure you just reported | 16:32 |
| slaweq | yep | 16:32 |
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| ihrachys | and you are going to look into it | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1744402 | 16:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744402 in neutron "fullstack security groups test fails because ncat process don't starts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:33 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | this one resulted in test disabled | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | do we have patches tackling the original issue? | 16:34 |
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| ihrachys | doesn't seem like it | 16:34 |
| slaweq | no, we don't have any patches for this one | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | checking on logstash how often it happens | 16:35 |
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| slaweq | and to be honest I'm not sure if this is still issue or maybe it is fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545820/ | 16:35 |
| slaweq | as it could be related to problem with not configured IP address in fake machine namespace | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, you think ncat failed to start because no ip set? | 16:36 |
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| slaweq | it could be IMO | 16:36 |
| slaweq | if on destination fake machine there wasn't IP address, it can't start | 16:36 |
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| slaweq | but I'm not 100% sure, maybe there is different problem still | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | we could close it and see if it reemerges | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | boy logstash is slow | 16:37 |
| slaweq | we can do that, and I will remove this unstable test decorator | 16:38 |
| slaweq | so if it will fail we will easier find it | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | yeah. no hits in logstash in a month. | 16:38 |
| slaweq | so I will remove this decorator and we will see, fine? | 16:39 |
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| ihrachys | #action slaweq to revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541242/ because the bug is probably fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545820/4 | 16:39 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:39 |
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| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1687074 | 16:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1687074 in neutron "Sometimes ovsdb fails with "tcp:127.0.0.1:6640: error parsing stream"" [High,Confirmed] | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | that's an old one. | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | I don't think Terry made any progress since it was initially looked into | 16:40 |
| slaweq | I didn't saw any patch related to this one for sure | 16:40 |
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| slaweq | but it's also not so often now IMO | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | at some point, this was present in lots of failures. I don't think we have those lately. | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | right. it seems like maybe something was fixed in the middle. | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | and I recollect we sometimes saw those errors in successful runs too | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | so it could as well be a red herring, and what helped is a set of unrelated patches that you carefully merged into for legit issues. | 16:42 |
| slaweq | so maybe we can close it for now and reopen if will be necessary? | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | maybe we were blaiming the failures on the error message | 16:42 |
| slaweq | it can be like You are saying | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | yes that's my inclination. I will leave ovsdbapp part open in LP so that they can decide on their own. | 16:42 |
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| slaweq | ok | 16:43 |
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| ihrachys | did just that | 16:44 |
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| slaweq | thx | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673531 | 16:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 16:44 |
| slaweq | I also didn't saw this one lately | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | crawling logstash in background. I will close if no hits. | 16:47 |
| slaweq | could be maybe fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547345/ | 16:47 |
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| slaweq | but I don't remember exactly in which moment this test was failing usually so I'm not sure | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | maybe. it was slow port active state propagation | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | ok no hits in logstash | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | closed | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | the rest are wishlist bugs | 16:47 |
| slaweq | FYI: I just marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1744396 as dubplicate | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1723912 in neutron "duplicate for #1744396 Refactor securitygroup fullstack tests" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | (moved on Low -> Wishlist just now that talks about signal we use to tear down resources) | 16:48 |
| slaweq | because there was two about same thing | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, great | 16:48 |
| slaweq | only two not whishlist, that is good :) | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | ok we are done with this list and still have 10 more minutes. so let's also clean up gate-failure bugs | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure&orderby=status&start=0 | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1741889 | 16:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741889 in neutron "functional: DbAddCommand sometimes times out after 10 seconds" [High,New] | 16:49 |
| slaweq | is it still an issue? | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | not sure. ovsdbapp release that claims it's fixed was issued. | 16:50 |
| slaweq | functional tests are quite stable last days | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | there are 16 hits of the timeout message in logstash for a month | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | but no functional it seems | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | example: http://logs.openstack.org/99/538699/3/gate/tempest-full-py3/71b6729/controller/logs/screen-q-agt.txt?level=TRACE#_Mar_20_08_57_06_775653 | 16:52 |
| slaweq | but this is oslo messaging timeout | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | but there is also queue.Empty above | 16:52 |
| slaweq | righ | 16:52 |
| slaweq | right | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, oslo messaging? | 16:53 |
| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/99/538699/3/gate/tempest-full-py3/71b6729/controller/logs/screen-q-agt.txt?level=TRACE#_Mar_20_08_57_07_663639 | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | oh I see below | 16:53 |
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| slaweq | I was talking about this one just below "yours" :) | 16:53 |
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| ihrachys | that's timeout on reporting state | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | looks like both rpc state thread and ovsdbapp was hanging | 16:54 |
| slaweq | maybe it's another issue with load on host | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | yeah | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | ok let's close the functional bug | 16:54 |
| slaweq | ++ | 16:54 |
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| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1738475 | 16:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1738475 in neutron "test_notify_port_ready_after_enable_dhcp fails with RuntimeError: 'dhcp_ready_on_ports' not be called" [Low,New] | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | haven't seen it honestly | 16:56 |
| slaweq | IMO we can close it - I didn't found anything like that since then | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1664347 | 16:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1664347 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_volume_boot_pattern failed to get an instance into ACTIVE state" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | it's Incomplete for us | 16:57 |
| slaweq | yep | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | how to get rid off it from the list? | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | I thought incomplete bugs eventually expire | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | but probably the nova component holds it | 16:58 |
| slaweq | I don't know | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | maybe I will just kill the neutron link | 16:58 |
| slaweq | ++ | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1750334 | 16:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750334 in neutron "ovsdb commands timeouts cause fullstack tests failures" [High,Confirmed] | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | isn't it the same as other timeout bugs? | 16:59 |
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| slaweq | yes, AFAIR it was same issue like with functional | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | marking as dup | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok we are at the top of the hour | 17:00 |
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| ihrachys | great, nice to do some cleanup once in a while :) | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, thanks a lot! | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sending periodic "unreleased" reports (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:00 | |
| slaweq | I like such cleanup :) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 17:00:29 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-03-20-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | have a nice day | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-03-20-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-03-20-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| dmsimard | \o | 19:00 |
| dmsimard | odd, looks like we're int he middle of a meeting if we look at the topic | 19:00 |
| dmsimard | oh, someone started a meeting from a leaked meeting topic | 19:00 |
| clarkb | meetbot will set the topic properly for us then after our meeting we can correct the bad topic | 19:01 |
| clarkb | hello infra | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 19:01:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| frickler | o/ | 19:01 |
| * jesusaur lurks | 19:01 | |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| * fungi has the topic correction queued up for after the meeting, just remind me | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | infra-root should go and sign the rocky release gpg key | 19:02 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | the directions for doing this are on the system-config docs | 19:02 |
| dmsimard | What is the link to see the key on the server again ? | 19:02 |
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| * clarkb makes a note to do it himself | 19:02 | |
| dmsimard | fungi gave that to me the other day but didn't bookmark it | 19:02 |
| mordred | I seem to remember signing it already | 19:02 |
| fungi | #link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/signing.html#attestation Attestation instructions | 19:03 |
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| fungi | #link https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xc31292066be772022438222c184fd3e1edf21a78&fingerprint=on Rocky Cycle key | 19:03 |
| fungi | also find them at the bottom of the releases site when in production | 19:04 |
| dmsimard | I ended up finding http://sks.spodhuis.org/pks/lookup?op=vindex&longkeyid=on&search=0x184FD3E1EDF21A78 but I guess that's the same thing | 19:04 |
| fungi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/#cryptographic-signatures | 19:04 |
| mordred | but nope - I have not | 19:04 |
| fungi | for the record, it went into production late yesterday, but you can still attest to it any time you like | 19:04 |
| clarkb | I'm going to be traveling at the tail end of this week and early next week. Which means it would probably best to have someone else chair next weeks meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | If you'd like to do that let me know in the infra channel later or via email? | 19:05 |
| fungi | i can volunteer, but happy for someone else to take a turn | 19:05 |
| * fungi got his fill | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | I'll likely go quiet thursday or friday while I pack and prep for conferency things | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | And finally since this group includes people that straddle the ops and dev roles you may be interested in a proposal to on the ops mailing list to merge the ops midcycle with the ptg | 19:07 |
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| fungi | oh, last minute but you can announce that zuul &co are no longer infra deliverables as of today | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | ya was going to bring that up later too. We've had a long standing zuulv3 priority effort meeting agenda item that maybe we need to reevaluate in this split out? We can talk about it in a short while | 19:08 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-March/014994.html Ops Meetup, Co-Location options, and User Feedback | 19:08 |
| fungi | (start of the colocation thread) | 19:09 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550550/ Improve IRC discoverability | 19:09 |
| clarkb | that change could still use some reviews | 19:09 |
| clarkb | I also wonder if the slack kills irc gateway plan affects our other irc related spec | 19:10 |
| clarkb | It doesn't really affect us directly as we don't use slack but there have been a non zero number of people wanting to use our bots with slack | 19:10 |
| corvus | clarkb: "the slack kills irc gateway plan" ? | 19:11 |
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| mordred | clarkb: it makes me less inclined to be accomodating, tbh | 19:11 |
| clarkb | corvus: slack recently announced that mid may their irc gateway would be shutdown | 19:11 |
| clarkb | corvus: basically forcing all bots to use their applications interface. Which is quite limited on the free tier | 19:11 |
| clarkb | (I'm sure that that isn't related at all to killing the gateway) | 19:11 |
| corvus | clarkb: you mean http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/irc.html ? | 19:12 |
| corvus | clarkb: that doesn't actually mention slack | 19:12 |
| corvus | in fact, i'd say a key characteristic of that spec is that we've de-prioritized non-irc support for our bots | 19:12 |
| clarkb | corvus: it doesn't but one of the other alternatives we had considered in the past was using that one lib that talks all the protocols. | 19:12 |
| clarkb | corvus: yes | 19:12 |
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| corvus | yeah, so i guess that's now *even less* important | 19:13 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/319506 [abandoned] Add spec for hosted IRC client | 19:13 |
| fungi | is also potentially related | 19:13 |
| clarkb | fwiw I'm happy to continue using irc. I think it would be difficult for us to supprot slack natively | 19:13 |
| clarkb | but I've also suggested in the past that "hey all the bots work with slack right now because irc" | 19:13 |
| fungi | i'm increasingly in favor of helping people find ways to make irc fit their needs rather than support additional protocols which merely fracture the community further | 19:14 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:14 |
| corvus | yep, sign me up for that | 19:14 |
| dmsimard | I know for a fact that several projects are using a slack <-> irc bridge (with something like https://github.com/ekmartin/slack-irc ) | 19:14 |
| dmsimard | Kolla does it, ARA does as well -- not sure if there's others | 19:15 |
| clarkb | ok sounds like we don't need to take a major shift here as we are happy pushing towards irc | 19:15 |
| dmsimard | I mean, as much as I dislike Slack.. there's people who dislike IRC just as much and that shouldn't prevent them from contributing and discussing things | 19:15 |
| corvus | sure it should | 19:15 |
| corvus | it's not free software | 19:15 |
| corvus | and we don't require folks to use free software to work with our systems | 19:15 |
| dmsimard | I never said it was a requirement to use SLack | 19:16 |
| corvus | see https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/irc.html | 19:16 |
| dmsimard | I said there's people who prefer Slack to IRC and if we can let them use Slack to talk to us, why not ? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | that I think is an entirely separate conversation | 19:16 |
| dmsimard | Yeah it is, sorry for sidetracking | 19:16 |
| clarkb | (I was mostly scopign this to the specs we have related to changes to our bots) | 19:16 |
| clarkb | (and sounds like there is agreement that wedon't need to update any specs related to that) | 19:17 |
| clarkb | we can talk about the other thing post meeting if we really want to | 19:17 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:17 |
| fungi | translating: "if people prefer proprietary software we should go out of our way to support it" (i can't personally agree with that) | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:18 | |
| corvus | i had an obvious typo in a previous remark, but i'll leave it as an exercise for the reader so we can move on | 19:18 |
| clarkb | corvus: I parsed it :) | 19:18 |
| corvus | so about dropping this item -- | 19:18 |
| clarkb | as mentioned earlier Zuul and friends are now independent projects no longer tied to OpenStack (and consequently technically infra) | 19:19 |
| corvus | i think we're really close to the v3 release at this point | 19:19 |
| fungi | to your earlier foreshadowing, i think we should still have a zuul v3 priority effort until v3 is released (possibly longer). there's plenty of work to be done on the implementing for openstack infra side still | 19:19 |
| clarkb | This has been a long standing agenda item and ya I was going to say maybe we just keep it going through the release? | 19:19 |
| corvus | and i think we've covered everything in the spec (with the exception of some CD stuff -- but arguably, you can accomplish that with secrets now anyway) | 19:19 |
| fungi | there's still a fair amount of job conversion long tail which _could_ justify the priority effort extending past 3.0.0 getting tagged | 19:20 |
| corvus | the last several meetings this has mostly been an operational topic anyway; less about development. | 19:20 |
| clarkb | then any operational concerns would be normal agenda items. Going forward. I think the consequence of this is that we should probably reevaluate our priority efforts and see if anything needs to be prioritized. | 19:20 |
| corvus | keeping this on the list until release and then just adding operational items as they come up seems reasonable. but also, if we wanted to go ahead and drop it, that works too. | 19:21 |
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| clarkb | This is neat because it means we are almost done with a long standing item and zuul gets to be free and hopefully used by far more people. | 19:21 |
| AJaeger | I think it will come up - somehow. Either with new features or new ways of doing jobs. | 19:22 |
| fungi | yeah, it will be nice to cross it off the in-progress list. i suppose v3 release is a good enough milestone we can call it no longer transitional | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | Just as a heads-up: tox-siblings is current topic that mordred is digging into, this caused a bit more havoc than expected ;( | 19:22 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I think it will remain on topic to talk about how zuul affects infra and openstack. I think bringing this up is more about fungis point | 19:22 |
| clarkb | so rather than standing priority agenda item we'll move to as needed agenda items | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: works for me | 19:23 |
| mordred | AJaeger, clarkb: I think we've got tox-siblings fixes almost ready | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | mordred: Hope so - just wanted to share with team so that they are aware of it | 19:23 |
| mordred | incidentally, one of the tox-siblings bugs was also present in the tox_install.sh scripts - but nobody had noticed it wasn't doing the right thing | 19:23 |
| clarkb | which is good I think that means infra has accomplished the majority of why this was a priority effort in the first place. Which is a major milestone | 19:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:24 |
| clarkb | and it is also a transitional step for zuul itself | 19:24 |
| clarkb | we'll all have to take a drink of our favorite beverage once that tag is cut | 19:24 |
| * fungi toasts another major success | 19:24 | |
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| fungi | oh, i'm early i guess ;) | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | as for zuulv3 topics proper I think the biggest one is pointing out that if you are running a zuulv3 you want to update all your executors to run latest master | 19:25 |
| clarkb | there were several security bug fixes last week. Infra has updated its executors | 19:25 |
| clarkb | anything else we want to go over re Zuulv3? | 19:26 |
| corvus | and there will be at least one more security fix, hopefully this week | 19:26 |
| clarkb | Look out for that on the zuul mailing list | 19:27 |
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| fungi | at least one more security fix before 3.0.0 presumably | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ya | 19:27 |
| fungi | i expect plenty more security fixes in the coming months/years because it's software | 19:27 |
| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:28 |
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| * fungi should clearly not seek a side job in public relations | 19:28 | |
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| clarkb | fungi: ha | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi has written up a new project rename process. I suppose we should all review that (do we want to wait before merging it after we perform renames?) and mordred has provided specifics for his project rename | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | I think this means we are basically ready to give it a go | 19:29 |
| mordred | \o/ | 19:29 |
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| fungi | it's not so much written up ans written out. i just deleted things ;) | 19:29 |
| clarkb | I'm probably not going to be around to help thursday-wednesday if we want to go and do it real quickly but that shouldn't stop us I don't think | 19:29 |
| corvus | oh what's the link? | 19:29 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/554261 Update Gerrit project renaming for Zuul v3 | 19:29 |
| fungi | was just fishing it out | 19:30 |
| corvus | will review | 19:30 |
| fungi | thanks! | 19:30 |
| clarkb | looking at the release schedule next week should be safe too | 19:30 |
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| fungi | it's primarily an attempt at encoding what we discussed in the meeting last week and subsequently over the course of the week in #openstack-infra, so hopefully no surprises | 19:30 |
| clarkb | and probably the week after that | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | though I'm somewhat hopefully we'll do it sooner than that just to get past it | 19:31 |
| corvus | i can assist fri, but would prefer not to drive | 19:31 |
| mordred | oh jeez. I have a lot of patches to prepare | 19:31 |
| fungi | i've been asked to also help with some storyboard imports friday, so am willing to help but would also rather not be in the hot seat | 19:31 |
| corvus | mordred: should we wait a bit then? | 19:32 |
| clarkb | also I think mordred is also traveling late this week? | 19:32 |
| mordred | corvus: no - it's fine - I just need to make rename patches for all the repos listed in fungi's patch | 19:32 |
| fungi | next week is starting to sound better | 19:32 |
| clarkb | ya maybe March 29 or 30 | 19:32 |
| fungi | mordred: hopefully most of those don't need patches, it's more a list of places to check whether they need patches | 19:33 |
| corvus | dmsimard: have you done a rename yet? | 19:33 |
| dmsimard | I have not | 19:33 |
| * mordred is not travelling friday - but is travelling monday - 29 and 30 are both great | 19:33 | |
| frickler | that would be the easter weekend, not sure who has holidays there | 19:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh we'll miss you on the weekend then? | 19:33 |
| fungi | dmsimard: [sales pitch] it uses ansible! | 19:33 |
| * clarkb wonders if he needs to brush up on his zuul | 19:33 | |
| mordred | clarkb: no - I'll be in LA on the weekend | 19:33 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm just flying to LA first thing saturday morning | 19:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: ah just not friday gotcha | 19:33 |
| clarkb | frickler: arg | 19:33 |
| * mordred has symphony tickets for friday for the brandenburg concertos | 19:34 | |
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| clarkb | mordred: if we wanted to do it friday would you be able to drive it? | 19:34 |
| * corvus now has bach stuck in his head | 19:34 | |
| clarkb | (to avoid easter weekend conflict) | 19:34 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes, I can drive it on friday if need be | 19:34 |
| fungi | i have the utmost respect for people of religion, but must admit i have a hard time remembering when religious holidays fall | 19:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: easter is a hard one because it moves around | 19:35 |
| mordred | also - the followup for openstacksdk for the rename is doing the storyboard transition - so if fungi is already in storyboard transition brainspace, that could be handy | 19:35 |
| mordred | easter is easy ... | 19:35 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: there's school vacation starting a week earlier for my kids, helps remembering ;) | 19:35 |
| fungi | mordred: sure, happy to | 19:35 |
| mordred | it's the first sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox | 19:35 |
| fungi | mordred: though also, renames in sb are super easy | 19:35 |
| mordred | fungi: nod- I figured I'd just do it after the rename to keep churn low | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | if corvus and fungi are able to help out and mordred can drive on friday I think that gives us enough humans to give it a go | 19:36 |
| fungi | it's, like, one sql update query | 19:36 |
| clarkb | and then any other infra-roots wanting to be involved can help | 19:36 |
| clarkb | (I'll likely be floating around too just not persistently) | 19:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: are we past needing 3 hour reindexes now? | 19:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes it should happen all online | 19:36 |
| fungi | if people review my updated process draft, i'll happily put together a maintenance plan based on it | 19:36 |
| mordred | \o/ | 19:36 |
| fungi | mordred: the reindex may take 12 hours, but doesn't require gerrit downtime (though does tend to block git replication) | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | its a far less expensive process | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | I'm able to help too | 19:38 |
| clarkb | friday is weeked for ianw so we should probably let ianw weekend. frickler dmsimard any interest? If so maybe we aim for an early start? | 19:38 |
| fungi | dmsimard is in the same tx i am, i think | 19:38 |
| fungi | er, same tz | 19:38 |
| ianw | i can be around if earlyish, but not sure i have any special insight for this one | 19:38 |
| dmsimard | I'm on eastern (15:39 currently) and I'm leaving in one minute to pick up the kids from school :p | 19:38 |
| fungi | yeah, that's my tz too | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | I could watch and participate in the rename ? I'm not sure I could drive it on my own | 19:39 |
| clarkb | 1500UTC is 8am PDT and early enough that frickler can join in if interested | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | brb | 19:39 |
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| pabelanger | wfm | 19:40 |
| frickler | clarkb: well on a friday thats pretty late for me already, so I'd rather skip that | 19:40 |
| clarkb | proposal: 1500UTC Friday if that works for mordred (as driver) and others that volunteered to help | 19:40 |
| clarkb | frickler: ah ok | 19:40 |
| mordred | with only two repos to name - it SHOULD be easy - even with github clicking | 19:40 |
| fungi | if the revised plan is good, it doesn't actually require zuul downtime just a very brief (automated( shutdown and startup for gerrit | 19:40 |
| clarkb | frickler: I'm thinking it would be good to do it when corvus is awake since it is our first with zuulv3 | 19:40 |
| fungi | so hopefully people won't be impacted too much | 19:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: which means probably no earlier than 1500UTC | 19:40 |
| frickler | yeah, just plan it according to your needs | 19:40 |
| clarkb | yay tab complete failures | 19:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: 1500UTC wfm | 19:41 |
| corvus | 1500utc is fine for me | 19:41 |
| fungi | i'm good with whatever time you like. i have no life | 19:41 |
| clarkb | ok lets say 1500UTC Friday then | 19:41 |
| clarkb | and I'll go ping release team after this meeting | 19:41 |
| clarkb | thanks everyone it will be nice to put this behind us | 19:41 |
| fungi | sounds good, thanks! | 19:41 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | ianw: it would probably be good to get a recap on all of the afs changes that have happened | 19:42 |
| ianw | ok | 19:42 |
| fungi | oh, yeah, i'm sure i missed at least some of the details | 19:42 |
| ianw | first thing was i updated mirror-update to use backported bionic era 1.8~pre5 packages | 19:43 |
| ianw | that is in https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ci-core/+archive/ubuntu/openafs-1.8-xenial | 19:43 |
| ianw | that actually seemed to get things very stable. all reprepro's ran for about 3 days without failure | 19:43 |
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| ianw | we found one weird warning, which after discussion seems harmless, and i've proposed https://gerrit.openafs.org/#/c/12964/ | 19:44 |
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| ianw | after that, i updated all our fileservers to be running with the settings as suggested by auristor and documented in https://review.openstack.org/540198 | 19:45 |
| pabelanger | nice | 19:45 |
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| clarkb | oh good that did merge | 19:45 |
| fungi | auristor also mentioned that we should be possibly concerned that our afs servers aren't running as new a version as the client? | 19:45 |
| fungi | or maybe i misread | 19:46 |
| ianw | yeah, as i understand it, there's just a mismatch between resources in terms of threads and callbacks, with 1.8 having more, that may result in lower performance | 19:47 |
| clarkb | which is why we increased resources per that docs change right? | 19:47 |
| fungi | oh, right, that the 1.8 client can overrun the number of requests the server is able to accept | 19:47 |
| fungi | okay, so the config change does address that concern? | 19:47 |
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| ianw | clarkb: i think we were just really underspecced to start with, using the defaults. we may want to tweak things as we move on, now we have the idea that we should | 19:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: that was my understanding. Basically increased the number of server side resources to match the client side increases | 19:48 |
| fungi | excellent | 19:48 |
| clarkb | ianw: gotcha | 19:48 |
| ianw | i've been fiddling with getting some of the stats out of various tools and possibly sticking them into graphite, so we can at least see where we might have issues | 19:48 |
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| fungi | that's super helpful, thanks! | 19:48 |
| ianw | and the last thing is the afs docs jobs, which AJaeger pointed out can be quite unstable, seeming to hang | 19:49 |
| clarkb | ianw: those jobs will use the older afs packages on the base distro too right? | 19:49 |
| ianw | we had a bit of back and forth over what this might be, simultaneous vos releases which corvus pointed out wasn't an issue, etc | 19:49 |
| ianw | it's writing from the executor i think, and it seems the rsync hangs? | 19:50 |
| ianw | it's wrapped under a significant amount of layers of ansible, etc | 19:50 |
| clarkb | oh right and we updated the afs and kernel on the executors | 19:50 |
| clarkb | maybe we need to roll them all the way up to your new 1.8 packages? | 19:51 |
| ianw | anyway ... i will keep an eye on this. maybe new settings will help. otherwise i think we need to keep digging to understand the timeout a bit better | 19:51 |
| clarkb | sounds good | 19:51 |
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| clarkb | Another topic is cloud changes. dmsimard is in the process of bringing up limestone networks' cloud for use as test resources and we are testing out new flavors on vexxhost which require boot from volume | 19:52 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: ^ vexxhost seems stable now ya? we just had to switch to using raw images? | 19:52 |
| pabelanger | it is! | 19:52 |
| pabelanger | we have 10 nodes, and boot-from-volume with 80GB volumes | 19:52 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: any indication if the jobs are happier with the new flavors yet? | 19:52 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: they seem to be, I haven't seen any timeouts yet | 19:53 |
| clarkb | nice | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | I also think the new mirror is helping with that too | 19:53 |
| fungi | i haven't heard anything else from packethost since we briefed them on our consumption model, but presumably we have them on the way soonish as well | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | since we no longer have BW constraints | 19:53 |
| clarkb | and I think the change on how ipv6 works in limestone will help us bootstrap more quickly there | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | dmsimard: I'd be curious to know if you have further mirror booting issues with ipv6 there | 19:54 |
| pabelanger | yah, I plan to confirm with mnaser again how many nodes we can get in vexxhost again | 19:54 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: (back from school), yes, I'll give it another try | 19:54 |
| clarkb | ianw: any linaro cloud updates? | 19:54 |
| clarkb | ianw: I guess at this point its adding limited set of jobs to use the arm nodes? | 19:54 |
| ianw | i released dib 2.12 with all the required changes, and released nb03 from the emergency file | 19:54 |
| ianw | not sure if builds have happened yet, but will keep an eye there too | 19:55 |
| ianw | other than that, no, i think use as people want. i have some things i want to do with devstack support, like etcd versions etc | 19:55 |
| ianw | s/no/yes/ | 19:55 |
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| pabelanger | ianw: might want to double check I used the right username / password for nodepool clouds.yaml. I think I did it correctly | 19:56 |
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| clarkb | really quickly before our hour is up | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:57 |
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| ianw | pabelanger: yeah, i think i did yesterday, lgtm | 19:57 |
| frickler | I have a patch up to restore the nodepool runtime graphs https://review.openstack.org/553718 | 19:58 |
| clarkb | anything else? | 19:58 |
| pabelanger | I think https://review.openstack.org/554624 will allow us to 2 stage a gerrit install on review-dev01.o.o | 19:58 |
| frickler | but failing to find per-provider metrics | 19:58 |
| frickler | help appreciated | 19:58 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/553718 restore nodepool runtime graphs | 19:58 |
| pabelanger | hopefully will pass tests | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/554624 prereq for booting review-dev01 | 19:59 |
| clarkb | corvus may know about finding per provider metrics. frickler I often find reading the source is the easiest way to sort that out:/ | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and with that we are at time. Thank you everyone | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 20:00:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-20-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-20-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-20-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: you had the topic fix queued up | 20:00 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:00 |
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| fungi | and done | 20:00 |
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| b1airo | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 20 21:03:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b1airo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:03 |
| b1airo | morning! | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo - apologies, I am on a train, in a tunnel | 21:04 |
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| b1airo | #chair oneswig | 21:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 21:04 |
| oneswig | highly likely to be intermittently present :-) | 21:04 |
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| martial | same as stig | 21:04 |
| oneswig | hey martial | 21:05 |
| b1airo | oh come now oneswig, in Australia the wireless broadband service is generally better than fixed line! | 21:05 |
| martial | Hi Stig, Blair | 21:05 |
| b1airo | #chair martial | 21:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:05 |
| oneswig | I am not in a train in Australia... | 21:05 |
| oneswig | ... alas | 21:05 |
| b1airo | :-) | 21:05 |
| martial | we are in the "Network Challenges" session of the conference with a presentation from Internet 2 | 21:05 |
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| b1airo | ha | 21:06 |
| oneswig | I've heard of such challenges | 21:06 |
| b1airo | martial: did you get anything back from Wilfred/Paul ? | 21:06 |
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| martial | nothing unfortunately | 21:07 |
| martial | or Enol for that matter | 21:07 |
| b1airo | i've been up until past 3am this morning dealing with storage "challenges", so if no-one else shows up to this meeting in the next 5 mins i'll be happy to cut it short | 21:07 |
| b1airo | *grumble* | 21:08 |
| martial | but I got the slide deck from Zhipeng about Blockchain use in the Passport program | 21:08 |
| oneswig | I'll be dropping off around then due to continuing my journey on bicyle | 21:08 |
| oneswig | What's the news on storage? | 21:08 |
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| martial | b1airo if interested check goo.gl/nPXeMR | 21:09 |
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| b1airo | just the delicacy of a Ceph pool with a couple hundred OSDs over 95% full | 21:09 |
| martial | oh Mike would have tons of things to say about that, he had that glitch | 21:09 |
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| oneswig | There's a chewy problem | 21:10 |
| b1airo | we've added some more OSDs for the moment, but the iffy CRUSH distribution in our present setup means there's quite a period of yoyo-ing before things start to trend down for the most full OSDs | 21:11 |
| b1airo | i saw one at 96.82% | 21:11 |
| b1airo | somewhat too close to the 97% failsafe full ratio | 21:11 |
| b1airo | we tried to copy a 100TB RBD into a new pool on different hardware, but a few OSDs in the source pool didn't seem to like the idea and stopped processing other work for some reason | 21:12 |
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| b1airo | alright, i'll run through the agenda for posterity | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Someone I saw today was reporting a 30 minute commit latency for IO to their glusterfs. yikes | 21:13 |
| oneswig | BTW b1airo: I thought your roundup on GPU passthrough was really helpful. Thanks for taking the trouble. | 21:13 |
| b1airo | cool, i you thought so then it was probably ok :-) | 21:14 |
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| b1airo | i was reminded about NVIDIA's HGX-1 architecture afterwards too, but that's not generally available outside the big customers afaik | 21:15 |
| b1airo | apparently they will have some big feature announcements around a 2nd gen of that platform soon | 21:16 |
| oneswig | don't know it, sorry - not an nvidia fanboi | 21:16 |
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| oneswig | ok, train's in, gotta go | 21:16 |
| oneswig | until next time | 21:16 |
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| martial | we are having a private meeting today indeed :) | 21:17 |
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| martial | b1airo: end of meeting? | 21:19 |
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| b1airo | sry, distracted by a small person | 21:20 |
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| martial | not too much happening today, so I would say let's skip? | 21:21 |
| b1airo | #topic Forum Brainstorming | 21:21 |
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| b1airo | martial: yeah, i'll just write these things up for the logs but we can revisit next week | 21:21 |
| martial | cool | 21:21 |
| b1airo | The Forum process has started for Vancouver'18 | 21:21 |
| b1airo | we're are the brainstorming stage where the community starts throwing out ideas for topics and sessions | 21:22 |
| martial | what is the link for the etherpad? | 21:22 |
| b1airo | i've started an etherpad here: | 21:22 |
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| b1airo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR18-scientific-sig-brainstorming | 21:22 |
| b1airo | which is also linked from the Forum wiki page, #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Vancouver2018#Etherpads_from_Teams.2C_Working_Groups.2C_and_SIGs | 21:23 |
| b1airo | so if you have ideas for topics of interest to the Scientific OpenStack ops/user community then please throw them in | 21:24 |
| b1airo | i've taken the liberty of kicking things off with a state of the art/practice on GPUs with OpenStack | 21:24 |
| b1airo | #topic Discussion regarding state of GPU passthrough and interest in collaborating to resolve security issues | 21:24 |
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| martial | I see that | 21:24 |
| martial | is that a follow up from the conversation you talked to us in Sydney? | 21:25 |
| b1airo | partly, yes | 21:25 |
| b1airo | not really much more to say about this right now beyond what I summarised on-list yesterday, happy to talk more if people have specific questions | 21:26 |
| b1airo | i also know some scant technical details (for specific devices) about a couple of pci config space windows that should be closed to guests, e.g., VBIOS flash | 21:27 |
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| b1airo | so that could be a start to adding and testing pci-quirks in QEMU | 21:27 |
| b1airo | i'd really like to find a register or something that does "a bad thing" (tm) that could be used as a demonstrable exploit - that would probably garner some more attention | 21:28 |
| b1airo | and would be a useful test-case for quirks | 21:28 |
| b1airo | #topic AOB | 21:29 |
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| b1airo | Anything else to mention? | 21:29 |
| martial | not much from my side, the workshop is going very well | 21:30 |
| martial | very busy | 21:30 |
| b1airo | great | 21:30 |
| martial | but we will have the pleasure of doing the second day partially on gotomeeting due to a fair amount of snow | 21:30 |
| martial | the follow up from this meeting is expected to be at the Vancouver Summit | 21:31 |
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| b1airo | look forward to hearing the round-up from it then | 21:32 |
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| martial | yes Sir, will provide some information | 21:32 |
| b1airo | we might have to defer that till next fortnight if we have Zhipeng next week | 21:32 |
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| martial | seems to be the case for next time indeed | 21:32 |
| martial | good news still | 21:33 |
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| b1airo | ok all done then | 21:35 |
| b1airo | catch you next week! | 21:35 |
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| b1airo | #endmeeting | 21:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 20 21:35:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-03-20-21.03.html | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-03-20-21.03.txt | 21:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-03-20-21.03.log.html | 21:35 |
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