Tuesday, 2018-07-17

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tpatil_Anyone from Masakari team willing to join weekly meeting?03:01
tpatil_If yes, then only I will start the meeting. I will wait for 5 mins.03:02
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tpatil_Sorry due to lack of participation, I'm canceling today's Masakari meeting on behalf of Sampath (PTL). Please send your questions/concerns on IRC channel #openstack-masakari or on the mailing list. Thank you.03:08
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gongysh#startmeeting tacker08:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 17 08:01:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tacker'08:01
gongysh#topic roll call08:01
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dkushwaha_o/08:02
tpatilHi08:02
YanXing_ano/08:02
joxyukihi team08:02
gongyshhi08:02
Li_Jiale o/08:03
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gongysh#topic bp08:06
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gongyshYanXing_an, Li_Jiale hi08:06
gongyshhow is the barbican task doing?08:06
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Li_Jialeconding finished. now testing.08:07
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gongyshLi_Jiale, great.08:07
gongyshthanks08:07
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gongyshwhen will we be ready for merge?08:08
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Li_JialeBefore Sunday, i think.08:09
Li_Jialeit's ok ? @gongysh08:09
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gongyshLi_Jiale, fine08:10
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gongyshlook forward to it.08:10
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dkushwaha_Li_Jiale, could you please update patch, i would like to test it in parallel08:10
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gongyshdkushwaha_ is reaching out for help.08:10
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phuoc_me too :)08:10
gongyshLi_Jiale, hi08:11
Li_Jialeok , update it in tomorrow .08:11
dkushwaha_Li_Jiale, Thanks08:12
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gongyshphuoc_, I have +2 for the ns with vnffg patches.08:12
phuoc_gongysh, thanks08:12
gongyshlet dkushwaha_  +2 and have a test.08:13
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dkushwaha_gongysh, phuoc_ sure, i will test and give my +2+A08:13
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gongyshphuoc_, but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558166/45/tacker/common/eventlet_utils.py08:13
gongyshI still don't know why you modify the eventlet monkey patch here?08:14
gongyshis there any problem if we don't change this code?08:14
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dkushwaha_gongysh, phuoc_ meanwhile, I will finish functional test patch by tomorrow for ns-vnffg.08:15
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gongyshdkushwaha_, it is kind of you. thanks08:15
phuoc_actually, I changed it to the past08:15
phuoc_That doesn't harm anything08:16
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gongyshphuoc_, if it doesn't harm anything, lets keep it as it is.08:18
gongyshI am afraid it will lead to old problem which is fixed by that patch.08:18
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phuoc_gongysh, I mean I changed it to match with https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/stable/pike/tacker/common/eventlet_utils.py#L2308:19
phuoc_before Queens version08:19
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gongyshit is changed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529116/08:20
nguyenhai93https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558166/ should be rebased08:20
gongyshI am afraid change back into https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/stable/pike/tacker/common/eventlet_utils.py#L23 will lead to the problem which is fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529116/08:21
phuoc_but I recognized that my change make Tacker runs slowly08:21
gongyshphuoc_, can we leave it alone in your vnffg ns patch, and file a bug and a new independent patch to change it?08:22
gongyshI mean  not to change that event monkey in you vnffg ns patch.08:23
gongyshif you need to change it, lets do it in an independent patch.08:23
phuoc_It may run fail some functional test, because of bad performance08:23
gongyshthis way, we will  know it has nothing to do with the vnffg patch.08:24
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gongyshphuoc_ we can merge the eventlet monkey patch before the vnffg patches.08:25
phuoc_gongysh, okie08:26
phuoc_I will make a patch for that08:26
gongyshfine08:26
tpatilgongysh: I want to discuss about bp: Support affinity/anti-affinity policies for VDUs08:26
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gongyshtpatil, hi08:27
gongyshyour turn08:27
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tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570845/08:27
tpatilI have added negative test as suggested by dkushwaha which will run in single cell environment (nova)08:27
tpatilname of the test is test_vnf_with_placement_policy_anti_affinity_on_single_comp_node08:27
tpatilAdding multinode support in under development : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578170/08:28
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tpatilOnce this patch is merged, positive test written for anti-affinity will work in single cell environment08:28
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tpatilRequest you all to please consider this feature for Rocky release as we are having hard time to make multinodes job work08:29
gongyshtpatil, the multinode job is still failing.08:30
gongyshtpatil, do you have idea how to fix the multinode job problem?08:31
tpatilYes, we are having hard time to make this multimodes job work. I have tested anti-affinity in single cell environment and it is working as expected08:31
tpatilgongysh: No, I don't have the knowhow of CI jobs. but I have been successful in adding single cell support08:32
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570845/13/.zuul.yaml08:32
tpatilNeed to set CELLSV2_SETUP: singleconductor in devstack localrc08:33
tpatiland that is the reason why the negative test is passing08:33
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tpatilAs explained in the patch, multi cells environment doesn't support anti-affinity. We plan to use single cell environment until this issue is fixed in multi-cells environment08:34
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gongyshdkushwaha_, what is your opinion for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570845/?08:35
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gongyshhttp://logs.openstack.org/45/570845/13/check/tacker-functional-devstack/c9be107/testr_results.html.gz08:36
tpatilYou can see "test_vnf_with_placement_policy_anti_affinity_on_single_comp_node" functional test is passing08:37
dkushwaha_gongysh, tpatil earlier, I had tested it on single node environment, but it was not as expected. I could not see updated patch, i needs to check that08:37
tpatildkushwaha: Did you setup CELLSV2_SETUP: singleconductor in devstack localrc before installing OpenStack?08:38
tpatildevstack by default installs nova in multi-cells environment08:39
dkushwaha_tpatil, i just used default settings08:39
tpatil<dkushwaha_: No that's won't work becoz it installs multi-cell environment08:39
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tpatildkushwaha_: as pointed out in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570845/13/.zuul.yaml, it installs nova in single cells environment. Please try it and let me know if you face any issues.08:40
dkushwaha_tpatil, yes, in multi-cell env, there is nova bug, and that is the issue08:41
tpatilWe plan to use this feature in single cell environment until this issue is fixed in multi-cell env. So request you all to please consider this feature for Rocky release08:41
gongyshtpatil, your skip test is seen as failed tests, please make it as skipped.08:42
tpatilI will try to make multinode job work but I cannot commit it will be done before the feature freeze08:42
dkushwaha_tpatil, with single cell it may work, but with multi-celll we have issue and it is a known bug08:42
tpatilgongysh: Will do in next PS08:43
gongyshtpatil, don't use a inner decorator, you can use direct call of unittest.skipif function.08:43
dkushwaha_tpatil, and another point is, we should have complete test coverage in multi-node job08:44
tpatilgongysh: Sure. Will check and update next PS soon08:44
gongyshtpatil, we can make it ready for merge after your fix.08:44
gongyshthanks08:44
tpatilgongysh: Thanks08:44
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gongyshtpatil, by the way, is there a way to do affinity with some existed vdu(s)?08:46
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tpatildkushwaha_: Do you see any functional tests are missing? If yes please mention it on the patch. I will add them.08:46
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tpatilgongysh: you mean, already deployed VDUs?08:46
gongyshyes, but it is a next story.08:47
gongyshwe can write it into your doc.08:47
dkushwaha_tpatil, i have to see the latest patch, and will comment there if i have some comments08:47
tpatildkushwaha_: Sure, thank you08:48
dkushwaha_tpatil, my just main point to have tested it on git08:48
dkushwaha_:%s/git/gate08:48
gongyshtpatil, one more question if I have just have one vdu, and write a affinity policy, what will happen?08:49
tpatilgongysh: No error in that case. Heat actually create a server group internally, so it will place that VDU on one compute node. Nova will not complain08:50
gongyshtpatil, ok08:50
gongyshdkushwaha_, it is great if we can make the multinode ci job running08:50
dkushwaha_gongysh, in case of single vdu, affinity things will not come not pic till you have previous vdu in same server group08:50
gongyshand then merge the policy patch.08:51
dkushwaha_gongysh, yeah, so there are 2 things. 1. complete test coverage as functional tests 2. multinode job setup.08:51
gongyshhowever, if  we cannot make the multi job ci run, we have to test it manually.08:52
dkushwaha_gongysh, ohk, after gate setup we can release it but by mentioning that this will not work for multi-cell because of  known nova bug08:52
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tpatilgongysh: That will be great.08:52
gongyshwe don't need to do multi cell08:52
gongyshmulti node desenot mean multi cell08:53
dkushwaha_gongysh, IMO manually testing is not enough to release as it depends on nova bugs etc.08:53
tpatildkushwaha_: I agree. Should I update release notes accordingly?08:53
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dkushwaha_yeah, for multicell i agree that we can mention that limitation in reno.08:53
dkushwaha_tpatil, yes, that is one way to release it so that user know it is not for multicell yet08:54
gongyshtpatil, ok lets fix the multi node job and then merge the policy patch.08:54
tpatildkushwaha: Sure, I will add this info in the reno08:54
dkushwaha_thanks.08:55
dkushwaha_I will review the latest patch set.08:55
tpatilgongysh: we will try our best08:55
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gongyshtpatil, lets try to fix it together.08:56
gongyshthanks08:56
gongysh#topic open discussion08:56
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gongyshanything else?08:56
gongyshI have found we have registered one topic session for berlin summit.08:57
gongyshthanks phuoc_  and dkushwaha_08:57
tpatilgongysh: Sure, I will definitely need some help from the team. Thanks08:57
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gongyshtpatil, stay online, lets find a way.08:57
tpatilgongysh: Ok08:58
gongyshto get to the top of the mountain. :)08:58
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gongyshok, thanks everyone08:59
gongysh#endmeeting08:59
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul 17 08:59:28 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)08:59
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-17-08.01.html08:59
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-17-08.01.txt08:59
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-17-08.01.log.html08:59
tpatilThank you all08:59
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mlavalle#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 17 14:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:00
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manjeets_Hello !14:00
njohnstono/14:00
bcafarelo/14:00
slaweqhi14:00
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rubasovo/14:01
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mlavalleAgenda's wiki is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings14:01
annp_hi14:01
pjrusak_hi14:01
mlavalle#topic Announcements14:01
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hongbino/14:01
mlavalleNext week is the Rocky-3 milestone and we will be releasing Neutron and the associated Stadium projects14:02
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mlavalleThis week we are releasing neutron-lib 1.18.0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583012/14:03
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mlavalleWe merged all the patches that were marked for this neutron-lib release14:03
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mlavalleToday is the last day to propose presentations for the Berlin Summit:14:04
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/summit-login/login?BackURL=%2Fsummit%2Fberlin-2018%2Fcall-for-presentations%2F14:04
mlavalleAnd finally the PTG in Denver will take place in September 10 - 14:14:05
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mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/14:05
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mlavalleI look forward to seeing many of you there14:06
mlavallePlease note that the ticket price is $399 and it will increase to $599 on August 23rd14:06
mlavalleAny other announcements?14:06
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mlavalleok, let's move on14:07
mlavalle#topic Blueprints14:08
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mlavalleSince we are approaching the release milestone, I will be working with those of you who are leading blueprints to assess the progress in those blueprints14:08
mlavalleDoes anyone have an update on a blueprint to be discussed during today's meeting?14:09
annp_hi14:09
mlavallehi annp_14:09
annp_regards to logging for firewall14:09
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annp_Here is list of patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1720727+(status:open+OR+status:merged) need your eyes.14:10
annp_and here is our plan for review https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Logging_service_for_FWaaS_review_plan14:11
mlavalleannp_: I added it to my pile. I will also bring it up during the FWaaS meeting this coming Thursday at 1400UTC14:11
annp_and we also created a doc guide for how to setup environment with logging ttps://github.com/longkb/logging/blob/master/Ingration guideline for logging service in FWaaS.rst14:12
annp_mlavalle, thanks a ton.14:12
annp_mlavalle, Do you know when FFE is open?14:12
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mlavalleannp_: that will be next week14:13
annp_mlavalle, I'd like to register a FFE for firewall logging.14:13
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annp_mlavalle, I got it. Thanks.14:13
mlavalleok, let's wok on it this week14:13
annp_mlavalle, that's all for logging. Please go ahead.14:14
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mlavalleannp_: that last github url seems to be wrong. I tried it14:14
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hoangcx_correct link for guideline should be: https://github.com/longkb/logging/blob/master/Ingration%20guideline%20for%20logging%20service%20in%20FWaaS.rst14:14
annp_hoangcx, thanks.14:15
mlavallehoangcx_: :-)14:15
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amotokiannp_: do we need to download the patches one by one?14:16
amotokiannp_: does git review -d <top of the patch series>  work?14:16
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annp_amotoki, we've just git review -d ... This is enough.14:17
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annp_amotoki, we just need git review -d ...14:18
amotokiannp_: I just wondered the github link uses git review -x. thanks14:18
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annp_amotoki, mlavalle, I'd like to share with you our current testing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g24-cKkwjcAXxbXLTRyeCzu-QlpE3eKdseo8R0P0920/edit#heading=h.ze0krrxtev7414:19
mlavalleannp_: that's helpful. THanks14:19
annp_amotoki, mlavalle, hoangcx, thanks.14:19
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hoangcx_annp_: Really? I don't see related-change in gerrit UI, that means we need to download one by one? Or Am I missing something?14:19
mlavalleIn regards to multiple port binding, we had pretty good progress over the past week: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/live-migration-portbinding+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:20
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mlavalleWe are in the process of merging the big patch at the head of the series14:20
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mlavalleand the smaller patches seem to be on their way to merge on time14:21
mlavallePlease take a look and help with them14:21
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mlavallein regards with Port Forwarding, here's the series of patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/port_forwarding+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:22
mlavalleI am personally working my way through the last one, the agent side code14:23
slaweqI will review those this week14:23
njohnston+114:23
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mlavalleExcept one of the server side patches, where we still have a discussion on the usage of locks, it seems to me the patches is in pretty good shape14:24
mlavalleare in ^^^14:24
mlavalleso I think that if we focus reviewing attention, we have a good chance to merge this feature this cycle14:24
manjeets_++14:25
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mlavallepjrusak_: any comments on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/subnet-onboard?14:27
pjrusak_Hi, everyone14:27
mlavallepjrusak_: nevermind, it is not yours14:27
mlavallesorry for the confusion14:28
mlavallelet's move on14:28
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pjrusak_Started working with spinning up dev env for myself. Went through hacking guide and got few question14:28
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pjrusak_to start with bug14:28
mlavallepjrusak_: let's address those questions in the channel14:28
mlavallethanks!14:28
pjrusak_Wrote them yesterday on neutron channel14:28
mlavalleah, ok, we'll follow up14:29
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pjrusak_i can resent them later today14:29
mlavalleok14:29
njohnstonWhat is the status of policy-in-code?14:29
amotokiI am really sorry I could not work on policy-in-code last week due to my poor health. my asthma hit me.....14:29
amotoki I am trying to find a way to support policy-in-code without touching neutron-lib.14:29
amotokiso far, neutron-lib code only requires policy.py in check_is_admin() and check_is_advsvc(),14:29
njohnstonI'm so sorry to hear that, amotoki14:29
amotokiso I hope we need a change in neutron core.14:29
mlavallewell, let's not be rash on those decisions14:30
mlavalleI'll ping you later and we can talk about it14:30
amotokiyes, that's true14:31
mlavalleYou are a valuable member of this team and we appreciate you a lot14:31
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njohnstonLet me know if you need any assistance, amotoki14:31
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amotokinjohnston: thanks14:31
* njohnston wonders if amotoki meant "change in neutron core" as in a code change in the core neutron server code as opposed to change in neutron core reviewer status14:32
amotokinjohnston: i mean 'openstack/neutron' repo by 'neutron core'.14:32
* slaweq is glad to hear that :)14:33
mlavallefwiw, that's good14:33
njohnstongood, that's what I thought :-)14:33
amotokinon-client lib deadline this week is in my mind14:33
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mlavalleannp_: do you have anything to say about wsgi suppprt?14:34
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annp_hi again,14:34
annp_In order to support WSGI server, here is list of patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/run-in-wsgi-server+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:34
mlavalleannp_: I reviewed one of them a couple of days ago. was it helpful?14:35
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annp_mlavalle, regards to your comments, I'm not sure where wait() is called.14:35
mlavalleand I will keep an eye on that series this week14:36
mlavalleencourgae the others to do the same14:36
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slaweqmlavalle: I will14:36
mlavalleThanks slaweq14:36
mlavalleok, let's move on14:36
mlavalle#topic neutron-lib14:36
annp_I’d like to keep current logic So we can simply update this one  like:14:36
annp_done, not_done = waiters.wait_for_all(self.fts)14:36
annp_if not not_done:14:36
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annp_    del self.fts[:]14:37
annp_What do you think so?14:37
mlavalleannp_: let's discuss in gerrit14:37
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annp_mlavalle, ok. thanks.14:37
mlavalleboden: did you make it back?14:37
bodenmlavalle hi yep I’m here14:37
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mlavallestage is all yours boden14:38
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bodenI saw you already mentioned (and reviewed) the neutron-lib release 1.18.0 patch; thanks for that14:38
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mlavallethanks also to amotoki for +1ing it as well14:38
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amotokithat's the role of the release liaison :)14:39
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bodenso the plan to get the neutron-lib RC ready for rocky is to release lib 1.18.0 (hopefuly today) and then bump neutron to use it… assuming there’s no issues (I don’t expect any) we can then create the stable/rocky branch for lib14:39
bodenin the meantime I didn’t plan on merging any neutron-lib py code, but api ref only changes should be fine14:40
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bodenso that’s for the Rocky RC of neutron-lib… other than that some lib db consumption patches merged (thanks all) and so you will see some new ones start ot crop up in the next few days14:41
boden… thats all I have unless others have comments/questions14:41
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mlavallehongbin: do you have all you need for the work you are doing on API consistency?14:42
mlavalleI mean, everything you need merged in neutron-lib14:42
hongbinmlavalle: yes, all the neutron-lib patches are merged, thanks for that14:42
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mlavallethanks to boden. Very disciplined and thorough, as usual ;-)14:43
mlavalleok, let's move on14:43
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hongbinboden: thanks :)14:43
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bodenmlavalle hongbin thanks for all the help14:43
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mlavalle#topic CLI / SDK14:44
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mlavalleamotoki: any news on this topic?14:44
amotokinext week is the feature freeze for client lib. I think we need to cut a new release.14:44
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amotokiAt a quick look, I don't see any important pending patches.14:44
amotokiif you have any, please raise it14:45
mlavalleok, let's move on14:45
mlavalle#topic Bugs14:45
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mlavalleLast week out deputy was manjeets_. He wrote a very thorough report here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-July/132274.html14:46
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mlavallehoangcx_: if you have a chance, could you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1781354?14:48
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781354 in neutron "VPNaaS: IPsec siteconnection status DOWN while using IKE v2" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen)14:48
mlavallewe need some help triaging that one14:48
hoangcx_mlavalle, yes. I will do it this week14:48
mlavalleslaweq: maybe we can touch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1781915 in the next meeting ;-)14:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781915 in neutron "QoS (DSCP Mark IDs) – No correlation between the implemented functionality and design" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Nate Johnston (nate-johnston)14:49
slaweqmlavalle: sure14:49
mlavallemanjeets_: I will look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178202614:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1782026 in neutron "Routed provider network - DHCP agent failure" [Undecided,New]14:49
slaweqbut I think that njohnston already checked it and send fix for docs14:50
mlavalleslaweq: ah cool14:50
njohnstonyes, and the main fix has already merged14:50
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mlavallenjohnston: great job. Thanks14:50
manjeets_yea for 1781915 document was incomplete so operators didn't know about allowed dscp marks14:50
mlavalleanything else you want to highlight manjeets_ ?14:51
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manjeets_thats it14:52
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mlavallemanjeets_: great job manjeets_. Thank you!14:52
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mlavalleThis week's deputy is supposed to be lujinluo. I was having an offline conversation, though, with annp_, an aparently lujinlio has left her job with Fujitsu14:53
mlavalleSince my duty week is only two weeks away, I will step in this week14:54
mlavalleunless I hear from her14:54
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mlavalle#topic Docs14:54
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slaweqmlavalle: so I can get Yours then if You want14:54
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mlavalleslaweq: thanks. let's talk after the meeting14:55
slaweqsure14:55
mlavalleboden: anything this week on Docs14:55
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mlavalleI take that as a no14:56
mlavalle#topic Open Agenda14:56
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mlavalleAnything else that should be shared with this team today?14:56
hongbini have one to bring up14:56
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hongbini wonder if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574907/ is bound by the FFE next week?14:57
mlavallewhy wouldn't it?14:58
hongbinif https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574907/ is bound, i would need reviews in this week to make it on Rocky :)14:58
mlavalleok, let's also focus on this series of patches14:58
mlavallethanks for bringing it up?14:59
mlavalleTHanks everybody for attending!14:59
mlavalleand let's focus on reviewing the code we discussed in this meeting!14:59
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mlavalle#endmeeting14:59
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njohnstonthanks all14:59
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-07-17-14.00.log.html14:59
slaweqsure, thx14:59
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pjrusak_Bye all15:00
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annp_thanks all. Bye15:01
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_qos15:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 17 15:01:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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slaweqhi again15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos'15:01
slaweq#topic RFEs15:01
rubasovhello again15:01
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njohnstono/15:01
mlavalleo/15:02
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slaweqlet's go quickly through RFEs15:02
slaweqfirst one is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096315:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress]15:02
slaweqand I didn't made any progress with it15:03
slaweqso I don't think that there is anything to talk about it15:03
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slawequnless there is someone who wants to work on it maybe :)15:03
mlavallebut you had a great vacation, didn't you?15:03
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slaweqyes mlavalle, I had :)15:03
slaweqthx15:03
slaweqso next one is:15:04
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/172757815:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged]15:04
slaweqfor this one there is WIP patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/15:04
slaweqbut there wasn't any activity on it in last few weeks also15:04
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slaweqzhaobo6 is probably not here now15:05
mlavalleI don't think we are going to have much activity over the next couple of weeks15:05
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mlavalleit is the same author as the port forwarding series15:06
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mlavalleand he is working hard on this15:06
slaweqI think it's not urgent for now15:06
slaweqthx for update mlavalle15:06
mlavalleBut I want to mention that it is an important feature for my employer15:06
mlavallewhich is the same as Zhaobo15:07
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mlavalleso he will definitile reyurn to it15:07
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slaweqso we can expect that it will be Your priority in next cycle? :)15:07
mlavalleit might. But more likely Zhaobo's15:07
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slaweqgreat15:08
slaweqnext one which I want to mention is: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175704415:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:08
slaweqit still waits for drivers team now15:08
slaweqso mlavalle please add it to Your drivers team agenda maybe, or check author's responses to Your questions there15:09
slaweqthx in advance15:09
mlavallewe discussed it during the meeting  about 4 weeks ago15:09
mlavalleand we had a couple of questions15:09
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mlavallewhich Liu Yulong answerd until last week15:09
slaweqbug report was updated recently15:09
slaweqhe answered for Your questions I think15:10
mlavalleI know15:10
mlavalleand I had it as tiem #1 for last Friday's meeting15:10
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slaweqok, thx. I just wanted to mention that here :)15:10
mlavallewe didn't have quorum, though15:10
mlavalleit will be the first item we discuss in the next meeting15:10
slaweqgreat, thx mlavalle15:11
slaweqso now let's talk about most important RFEs :)15:12
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157898915:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lajos Katona (lajos-katona)15:12
slaweqrubasov: lajoskatona: do You have something to update?15:12
rubasova bit15:12
rubasovI know that two weeks before the feature freeze many has higher priorities15:13
lajoskatonaSlaweq: Hi, I started to work on the direction extension for minimum bw rule15:13
rubasovbut if you have free time we always appreciate reviews on this topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:minimum-bandwidth-allocation-placement-api15:13
lajoskatonaSlaweq: and now started the extension as well for port_resource_request to propagate the qis stuff fro nova via port dict15:13
rubasovthere's a bunch of stuff coming together there15:13
mlavallerubasov, lajoskatona: thanks for your work an update15:13
slaweqI started slowly some reviews of those patches15:14
rubasovone major part is to synchronize placement resource provider info from agent to server to placement15:14
rubasovslaweq: thank you15:14
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lajoskatonaSlaweq, mlavalle: thanks, hope that soon we can have again some end-to-end thing, to see how to move forward15:15
mlavalleI will take a look at those patches as soon as I dig myself out of the port forwarding seires ;-)15:15
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slaweqI will review them also ASAP15:15
rubasovif you like to look at stuff early I think even the patches marked as WIP are quite readable and ready for some input15:15
slaweqok rubasov, thx for info15:16
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mlavalleahhh, you meant early in development, not early in the day....15:16
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mlavallejust joking ;-)15:16
slaweqLOL15:17
slaweqthose patches are good to review only in the morning, before first coffee :P15:17
rubasovmlavalle: you're in the right time zone to follow everything we do early in the day :-)15:17
mlavalleyou are right15:17
rubasovmlavalle: ;-)15:18
slaweqok, let's move on to next topic then15:19
slaweq#topic Bugs15:19
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slaweqwe have couple new bugs for QoS reported recently15:19
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178191515:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781915 in neutron "QoS (DSCP Mark IDs) – No correlation between the implemented functionality and design" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Nate Johnston (nate-johnston)15:19
slaweqthis is documentation issue which njohnston already fixed15:20
slaweqthx njohnston15:20
mlavalle++15:20
njohnston:-)15:20
slaweqnext one is15:20
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177866615:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1778666 in neutron "QoS - “port” parameter is required in CLI in order to set/unset QoS policy to floating IP" [Low,Confirmed]15:20
slaweqI read it today and it looks for me like some bug in Neutron code, we have to check if that's true15:21
slaweqif there will be anyone else who will take it in next few days, I will take a look on it15:22
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slaweqnext bug is: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177874015:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1778740 in neutron "Quality of Service (QoS) in Neutron - associating QoS policy to Floating IP" [Low,Confirmed]15:25
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slaweqand this is also only documentation issue, so easy to fix :)15:25
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slaweqnext one, also related to docs: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177905215:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1779052 in neutron "Quality of Service (QoS) in Neutron (documentation) - only different types rules can be combined in QoS policy" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to yanpuqing (ycx)15:26
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slaweqpatch propsed already: #link https://review.openstack.org/58194115:26
slaweqplease review it :)15:26
slaweqactually, I reviewed it today and it has to be updated15:27
slaweqso probably You can wait with review :)15:27
slaweqnext one is:15:28
slaweq#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177616015:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1776160 in neutron "'burst' does not take effect for neutron egress qos bindlimit by ovs" [Undecided,New]15:28
slaweqand this one looks that might be serious15:28
slaweqI will try to verify it this week and update bug and do the fix for it maybe15:29
mlavalleok15:30
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slaweqand the last one is related to FIP QoS: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178189215:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1781892 in neutron "QoS – Neutron port is not effected after association “Floating IP” with “QoS policy” enabled" [Undecided,New]15:31
slaweqthis should be verified also by someone15:32
slaweqI don't know if I will have time this week for all of those bugs15:32
mlavalleslaweq: I'll try to take a look15:32
slaweqthx mlavalle15:32
slaweqif I will have time and it will be not taken, I will get it but I'm just not sure15:33
slaweqit looks like some problem on API level15:33
mlavalleme niether, but I'll do my best15:33
slaweqmlavalle: thx a lot15:33
mlavalleit's a good thing that this guy Arkady is looking at the floating ip stuff15:34
slaweqthere are steps how to reproduce it and as it looks like issue in API/DB so should be easy to verify :)15:34
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slaweqI think he is guy from RH and is working on some implementation of QoS in networking-odl now15:35
slaweqbut I might be wrong :)15:35
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mlavallehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/arkady-shtempler-31044b1b/15:35
slaweqso he is testing QoS in neutron now15:35
mlavalleI think you are right15:35
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mlavalleHe is in Israel15:36
slaweqit's very good that there is someone who is reporting those issues - at least we have something to work on ;)15:36
njohnston+10015:37
slaweqok, that's all from me for today15:37
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slaweqif You don't have anything else to add we can get 20 minutes back :)15:37
mlavalleyou got a deal15:38
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slaweqok, thx for attending and see You in 2 weeks :)15:39
lajoskatonaBye15:39
slaweqbye15:39
slaweq#endmeeting15:39
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 17 16:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
slaweqhi again16:00
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slaweq:)16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci'16:00
njohnstono/16:00
slaweqmlavalle: haleyb: are You around?16:00
mlavalleo/16:00
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slaweq#topic Actions from previous meetings16:01
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slaweqthere is only one action from last meeting:16:01
slaweqmlavalle to follow up with QA team to merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578765/16:01
mlavalleI forgot. I will do it today16:01
haleybhi16:01
slaweqyesterday I pushed new PS there16:01
mlavallehad the patch open in my browser the entire time16:01
slaweqand it's already +W16:01
mlavalledanm16:01
slaweqmlavalle: no problem16:02
slaweq:)16:02
slaweqI hope it will be merged soon, now I had to recheck it few times already16:02
mlavallenon-issue then16:02
slaweqhi haleyb :)16:02
slaweqso, quickly next topic16:03
slaweq#topic Grafana16:03
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slaweqhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:03
njohnstonI wish there was a way to set the default for that to the last 7 days.  Is there any reason not to do that?16:03
slaweqas I was checking it earlier today, it looks much better now for most of jobs16:03
slaweqnjohnston: I don't know but would be good IMO :)16:04
slaweqI think that Neutron gates are better when I am on holiday :D16:05
njohnston#action njohnston to see if we can set the default time period on the grafana dashboard to now-7d16:05
slaweq^^ thx njohnston16:05
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slaweqfor example fullstack which was in bad shape few weeks ago is now below 20% for last week16:06
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slaweqdo You want to add something or can we talk about some specific jobs?16:07
mlavallewe still missed you!16:07
slaweqwhy?16:08
mlavallebecuse you weren't here16:08
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slaweqahh thx mlavalle :)16:08
mlavalleI'm saying even if the gate is in good shape, we still want you to be around16:08
slaweqok, now I will be all the time :P16:09
slaweqso gate will be back to bad shape proably :P16:09
mlavalleLOL16:09
slaweqok, let's move on16:09
slaweq#topic Unit tests16:09
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slaweqwe have still issue with timeouts in UT sometimes16:09
slaweqit's described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177907716:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1779077 in neutron "Unit test jobs (py35) fails with timeout often" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:09
slaweqBut it’s not related only to python 3.5, I saw failing py27 jobs also and lower-constraints as well sometimes16:10
slaweqit happens less often then it was few weeks ago IMO16:10
slaweqbut still it hits us16:10
slaweqI checked today in logstash that it's (probably) not only Neutron's problem - some other projects also hits such timeouts in py27/py35 jobs last week16:11
slaweqI was asking on infra channel today but they don't know about any specific reason of it16:12
slaweqand I also don't know if maybe problems in other projects weren't due to something else, just checked that it happens from time to time for others also16:12
manjeetsslaweq, I have question regarding py35 issue im facing in networking-odl, but i'll ask later in neutron channel after this meeting16:13
mlavalleworth taking it into consideration16:13
slaweqI want to compare time of longest tests in "good" and "bad" runs and maybe I will find something interesting16:13
slaweqas it's not very often I'm doing it in meantime for now16:13
slaweqand will update this bug if I will find something16:13
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slaweqthat's all from me about UT issues16:15
slaweqdo You have something to add?16:15
mlavallenope16:16
slaweqnext topic then16:16
slaweq#topic Functional16:16
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slaweqI think I saw this week again issue like in http://logs.openstack.org/58/574058/10/check/neutron-functional/f38d685/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:16
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slaweqbut I'm not sure exactly where and I couldn't find it today16:17
slaweqdid You saw such issues recently?16:17
mlavalleno, I didn't16:17
slaweqso just please be aware and if You will see new such issues, please report a bug for it16:18
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slaweqas there is no any currently IIRC16:18
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slaweqwe will then be able to track it there16:18
njohnstonOn 7/15 we hit 100% neutron-functional failures in the gate, and then it just went away... I know I saw it at the time, and I don't know what was fixed but now the issue is not there16:18
njohnstonand it was the weekend and I did not have time to investigate at that moment16:19
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slaweq100% of failures during the weekend might be not really an issue16:19
slaweqthere is not many patches, especially in gate queue then16:20
njohnstonI saw a bunch of -2s from it16:20
slaweqahh, so maybe there was something really16:20
slaweqmaybe some of patches fixes this issue somehow :)16:20
njohnstonThat is my assumption16:21
slaweqwould be good16:21
slaweqlet's just check if it will happen again16:21
slaweqI think we can now go to our "favorite" topic16:23
slaweq#topic Scenarios16:23
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slaweqsince few days we have 2 jobs which are on very high failure rate16:24
slaweqfortunatelly both are non-voting :)16:24
slaweqit's neutron-tempest-multinode-full and neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full16:24
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slaweqtoday I checked failures from last few days and I found few issues which happens there16:25
slaweqfirst neutron-tempest-multinode-full16:25
slaweqthere is one or two tests failing every time when it fails: tempest.api.compute.admin.test_servers_on_multinodes.ServersOnMultiNodesTest.test_create_server_with_scheduler_hint_group_anti_affinity16:25
slaweqand this issue is probably not related to neutron at all16:26
slaweqI saw same failures in tempest jobs also16:26
slaweqexample of such failures in neutron patches:16:26
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/08/555608/34/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/1d3aafb/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:26
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/15/583015/1/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/bd5eb5e/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:26
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/21/567621/9/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/6bc503f/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:26
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/59/582659/1/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/c503459/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:26
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slaweqso for this job I don't think there is a lot what we can do16:28
slaweqlet's go to neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full16:28
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slaweqfor this job there are 2 main issues16:28
njohnstondo we need to open a bug with the nova crew?16:28
slaweqnjohnston: good question16:29
slaweqI didn't check if there is already something opened16:29
slaweqbut we can definitelly ask on nova channel16:29
slaweqI will ask after the meeting16:29
njohnstonThe nova/neutron liaison is sean-k-mooney, he might be able to help16:29
slaweqok, thx for info16:30
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mlavallehe is closer to your timezone, slaweq16:30
slaweqyes, I know16:30
slaweqhe is in Ireland IIRC16:30
mlavalleyeap16:30
slaweqso I will ask tomorrow morning16:30
slaweq#action slaweq to talk about issue with test_create_server_with_scheduler_hint_group_anti_affinity with nova-neutron liaison16:31
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slaweqok, so for neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full there are 2 issues generally16:32
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slaweqfirst is exactly same as above16:32
slaweqand second issue is with tempest.api.compute.volumes.test_attach_volume.AttachVolumeShelveTestJSON.test_{attach, detach}_volume_shelved_or_offload_server tests16:32
slaweqexamples of failures:16:32
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/51/414251/74/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/2b4a730/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:32
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/08/555608/34/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/8d12da6/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:32
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/29/581029/2/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/f6e69d5/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:32
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/21/567621/9/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/3d8fd83/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:32
slaweq        * http://logs.openstack.org/59/582659/1/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/62e9d93/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:32
slaweqhere it might be related to Neutron as issue is with ssh to instance via floating IP16:33
slaweqbut I didn't saw this issue in any other job then this with dvr16:33
slaweqin l3 agent logs there is few errors like: http://logs.openstack.org/51/414251/74/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/2b4a730/logs/subnode-3/screen-q-l3.txt.gz?level=ERROR16:34
slaweqon both subnode-2 and subnode-316:34
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slaweqmlavalle: do You think that it might be related?16:35
mlavalleslaweq: I was taking a look. don't know yet16:36
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mlavalleno tracebacks in the log16:36
mlavallejust that error16:36
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haleybright, don't know what it was doing16:37
slaweqstrange thing is that it's only on this test16:38
mlavallethe message comes from pyroute2: https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/blob/master/pyroute2/netns/nslink.py#L19916:39
slaweqso maybe it's some issue with configuring FIP again after server is shelved/unshelved16:39
mlavalleit seems at least16:39
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slaweqmaybe it would be easy to check manually if someone have dvr environment16:40
mlavalleit seems they have their own api to handle namespaces16:40
slaweqjust try to shelve/unshelve server and check connectivity to it16:40
haleybthe message is from the close() code, so maybe didn't cause a fatal error, i'm remembering seeing it before but can't place the context16:40
mlavalleyeah, it closing16:40
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mlavalleI can create a DVR environment easily16:43
mlavalleif that is the route we want to take16:43
slaweqit's my first idea to check as I saw this happens very often in this dvr scenario but not in others16:44
slaweqand it's always this test with shelve/unshelve instance16:44
slaweqhere is what test is doing: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/api/compute/volumes/test_attach_volume.py#L22416:44
slaweqit creates server and volume and then shelve server16:45
slaweqand unshelve it16:45
slaweqafter unshelve it tries to connect to it16:45
slaweqand this fails16:45
haleybi wonder if CONF.validation.run_validation is True, so that it checks ssh before shelving16:46
haleybi guess it must be16:46
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slaweqhttp://logs.openstack.org/51/414251/74/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/2b4a730/logs/tempest_conf.txt.gz16:47
slaweqit is set to True16:47
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slaweqok, mlavalle if You can deploy dvr env quickly can You test it and maybe report a bug for that issue?16:50
mlavallenot necessarilly today, but over the next few days16:51
slaweqsure :)16:51
mlavalleit's enough dvr, right?16:51
slaweqthx a lot16:51
mlavalleI don't need ha, right?16:51
haleyband try an 'openstack server shelve/unshelve ...' i guess16:51
slaweqmlavalle: good question16:51
slaweqscenario is dvr-ha16:52
slaweqbut maybe dvr would be enough?16:52
slaweqI don't know16:52
mlavalleslaweq: mhhh, that may require a little more work16:52
mlavalleI'll still try16:52
slaweqhaleyb: yes, I think that shelve/unshelve will be what is done in this test16:52
mlavallehaleyb: ack16:52
haleybit might be enough to try with dvr, and see how it goes.  i might have a system to try if i can remember the IP16:53
mlavalleLOL16:53
mlavalleok16:53
slaweqthx haleyb16:53
slaweq#action mlavalle/haleyb to check dvr (dvr-ha) env and shelve/unshelve server16:54
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slaweqgood? :)16:54
mlavalleyes16:54
slaweqthx16:54
haleybsure, i did find it :)16:54
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slaweqok, that's all from me for today :)16:55
slaweqdo You have anything else to add maybe?16:55
mlavallenot from me16:55
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mlavallejust to say that I am glad I don't have to run 3 metings in a row16:55
slaweqLOL16:55
slaweqyes, it's hard for sure16:56
slaweq2 for me are more than enough16:56
mlavalleit's not the meetings16:56
mlavalleit's the preparation16:56
* njohnston is grateful to all of you16:56
slaweqyes mlavalle, I agree16:56
slaweqok, thx guys for attending16:56
slaweqsee You next week16:56
slaweq#endmeeting16:57
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slaweqbye16:57
njohnstonbye16:57
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corvuso/19:00
clarkbHello infrans19:00
clarkbinfrians?19:00
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ssbarnea1:)19:00
cmurphyo/19:01
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clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 17 19:01:15 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
mordredp/19:01
clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:01
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clarkbI've been reminded to remind you all to submit to the summit CFP19:01
clarkbI think you have just under 12 hours now19:02
clarkbin any case it closes soon19:02
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clarkbyup 11:59 PST today which is 11 hours and 57 minutes from now19:02
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-10-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:03
clarkbianw and fungi took an action to begin a letsencrypt POC. I don't expect this is done yet particularly with people traveling and on PTO19:03
fungiyeah, i'm more focused on the mm3 poc first19:04
clarkbianw: fungi: anything worth discussin on this item yet?19:04
ianwnot yet, but yeah, i was on pto all last week19:04
fungiand about to disappear for ~two weeks starting tomorrow19:04
fungibut i can pitch in on whatever ianw starts when i get back, if he gets time19:04
clarkb#action ianw fungi Set up letsencrypt POC19:05
clarkb#topic Specs approval19:05
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clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/565550 Containerized infra19:05
clarkbtwo weeks ago I asked that we do our best to review this spec so that it can be put up for approval this week19:05
clarkbA number of us have reviewed it and there are a few +1s. Any objections to formally putting it up for approval? I'd likely get around to doing that thursday afternoon local time19:06
fungino objection from me19:07
Shrewsi reread that today. lgtm19:07
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corvusi think it's ready19:08
clarkbalright not hearing any objections. I will look forward to your final review prior to hopefully approving it on thursday19:08
mordredwoot19:08
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mordredalso, relatedly, we're very close to having jobs building containers of zuul and nodepool - so some progress on parts of it have been made19:09
clarkbcmurphy has also been pushing on the getting us out of the puppet hole tasks19:09
cmurphyya19:10
clarkbcontinuing to review topic:puppet-4 would be helpful (I try to dig into that periodically myself)19:10
mordredyay puppet hole19:10
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cmurphyyes please19:11
clarkbI'm expecting we are close to being able to pick a service for using puppet 419:11
cmurphyyes, i proposed https://review.openstack.org/582765 to try to turn on the future parser for review-dev.o.o19:11
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clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/582765 turn on future parser (puppet 4 parser) for review-dev.o.o19:11
cmurphymost of the other patches are just adding tests or are xenial fixes19:11
cmurphythere are some scary iptables changes that should probably be babysat19:12
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cmurphyI found that the drush puppet module we're using was never updated for xenial + php7 so groups.o.o might be tough to update19:13
clarkbcmurphy: we can probably loop in smarcet to help with that19:13
cmurphythe the refstack module is kind of broken, i'm hoping the refstack people can help update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557539/19:13
fungior mrmartin if he's interested19:13
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fungi(on the drush/groups front)19:14
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cmurphybut mostly i think we should start taking the plunge and turning on the future parser as much as possible19:14
clarkbas far as spec implementation planning goes, do we think there are a specific set of tasks that we want done before the ptg so that we can focus on other tasks face to face?19:15
clarkbmordred: ^ you may have this paged in better than anyone19:15
clarkbcmurphy: ++19:15
cmurphyi think we can get all the puppet 4 stuff done before the ptg19:15
mordredclarkb: I think we should at least have split the run_all into individual playbooks - and it would probably be good to have an ansible version of openstack_project::server19:16
mordredbut honestly, once we have openstack_project::server the rest of things are pretty parallelizable19:16
mordredclarkb: if I can ever get the pypi mirror working again, I'll start in on the base ansible things19:17
mrmartinI’m in for xenial / php7.19:17
clarkbto summarize then we can get the puppet 4 work done so that we can limp along while we then parallelize ansible container conversions after having a version of openstack_project::server in ansible19:17
clarkborder is roughly puppet 4 and openstack_project::server in ansible in parallel, then we can convert services to containers after ansible is done19:18
mordred++19:18
mordredI agree with those words19:18
clarkbI want to say we are in good shape for the puppet stuff as long as we can get reviews (thank you cmurphy). Does anyone have the base server playbook on their radar?19:19
mordredoh, that's what I was going to work on after this container job19:19
corvusclarkb: maybe that warrants an #info ? :)19:19
clarkbcorvus: ++19:19
corvusi'd like to pitch in a little on the base server, but i'm not prepared to bootstrap it19:20
clarkb#info Puppet 4 work and openstack_project::server conversion to ansible can happen in parallel and are our prereqs. Once the ansible base playbook work is done we can parallelize per service container conversions19:20
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mordredI can get it started, then will ping corvus when there's something there to rage-code against19:20
clarkb#action mordred to begin work on openstack_project::server conversion to ansible with corvus helping19:21
corvuscool19:21
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clarkb#info review topic:puppet-4 to help get the puppet work completed19:21
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clarkbWe sort of blended together the config mgmt priority effort and the spec approval topic. If there isn't anything else I'll jump to storyboard next19:22
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:23
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clarkb#topic Storyboard19:23
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clarkbI've seen patches from Fatema go by in #storyboard. If you are interested in javascripty things reviews on those are likely helpful19:24
clarkbWe are also seeing interest from starlingx users19:24
fungiand airship too19:24
fungibut yesterday was starlingx questions, yes19:24
mordredthere's an ML thread about openstack/requirements and needing to track tasks across storyboard and launchpad projects19:25
clarkbWill be interesting to see what sort of feedback they come back with as very new users without storyboard history background19:25
mordredI almost responded to it- but didn't19:25
clarkbMore a heads up that there is stuff happening there than anything else. Fatema's changes in particular are aimed at improving search in storyboard which si something our users have wanted19:26
fungiyeah, i keep meaning to follow up on that one because the vmt has some similar patterns19:26
fungithe requirements sb thread i mean19:27
mordredclarkb: ++19:27
fungithe obvious answer is what the vmt went with (live with having two different places you're copying stuff when it affects projects across different trackers)19:27
mordredfungi: yah - my answer was shaping into "we didn't really intend for the 'integrated release' projects to span both places for a long time" - but I realize that wasn't super helpful advice19:28
mordredI think fungi's VMT answer is likely the better answer19:28
fungiit's not a great solution, but it's less work than trying to engineer a complex solution for what should hopefully be a transitional situation19:28
mordredsince it's at least based on what someone is actually doing19:28
fungiwe didn't originally plan for integrated release projects to span both places19:28
clarkblp does know how to track external bugs, possible we could hack on top of that?19:28
clarkbat least until we stop using lp19:28
fungibut the situation we ended up with is that different integrated release projects have different development workflows, use their defect and task tracking solutions in different ways, and are ready to transition at different times19:29
fungiso telling some of them that they can't have storyboard until all of them can have storyboard was a worse situation19:29
clarkbya we compromised in the opposite direction of making this particular problem easy19:30
fungiyes, lp has a feature where you can tell it your bug tracker is at some other url. i wasn't able to get that to actually work but the lp devs assured me in the last forum session we had that it does something so should find time to try again19:30
clarkbfungi: I've used it when submitting python package bugs against ubuntu and for the python bug tracker it seemed to wrok19:31
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clarkbAny other storyboard related items before moving on?19:32
fungiyeah, i think when i tried a year-ish ago it was built around the idea that they needed to program a driver to figure out how to find bug reports in your particular tracker and they'd implemented it for some popular ones like bugzilla and debbugs19:32
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fungibut maybe that's changed19:32
mordredthat is the last state of it that I was aware of19:33
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clarkb#topic General Topics19:34
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clarkbReally quickly before we get to corvus' topic, we haven't forgotten about winterscale. I'm told jonathan will be attempting a followup today19:35
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clarkbI've also got a service breakdown proposal going at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/winterscale-service-branding19:35
clarkbyour input on that is much apprecitated19:35
clarkb(also I can't type)19:36
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* Shrews proposes "winterscale is coming" as a motto19:36
cmurphy++19:36
clarkbalright corvus: swift and logs19:36
clarkb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006020.html thread on moving zuul job logs into swift19:37
corvusthere's been some good discussion in email; mostly wanted to see if folks had feedback or questions in irc19:38
* mordred welcomes our new logs-in-swift overlords19:38
clarkbI'll try to summarize. Zuulv3 makes it a bit easier for us to talk to swift from zuul through the use of encrypted secrets. We've also found the ara middleware can crash our logs server in some cases due to use of memory leading to swapping19:38
clarkbThis leads to rebooting which potentially will require many hour long fscks19:38
corvuswell, on friday, ext4 did its thing well and no fsck was needed19:39
corvusbut it's a possibility, and we've still got potential iscsi failures looming over us (which always require a fsck)19:40
corvusi never want to do another of those19:40
clarkbas for feedback I think we should probably identify which of our clouds provide an acceptable swift deployment and work with one of them to start. Then we can test things like how slow is uploading 30k small files for example19:40
corvusclarkb: is 30k typical or max?19:40
clarkbcorvus: I think that is more like the max, but we can grab a few ara db files and generate the files to check19:41
clarkbto get an idea of what it is like for our current jobs19:41
corvusgood idea.  maybe for some typical devstack jobs or something.19:41
clarkb++19:41
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ssbarnea1i support the move to swift idea, in the past I did something similar jenkins logs to S3 instead of jenkins, to offload the master. obviously that this also depends on how scalable is our swift, maybe experiment with parallel usage first.19:41
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clarkband multinode as that may potentially create a file count multiplier19:41
fungiseems like the massive ones were tripleo and openstack-ansible which were including their own ara content?19:41
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clarkbfungi: ya19:42
corvusdid they change to using middleware too?19:42
clarkbI believe tripleo did19:42
clarkbnot sure about osa19:42
corvusk.  we should test that in particular then.19:42
corvustbh, i'd really like us to favor the idea that we should get out of the middleware game.19:43
ssbarnea1corvus++19:44
mordred++19:44
fungii suppose an ara javascript front-end which retrieves an sqlite file and operates locally on it is a no-go ;)19:45
clarkbI'm in favor as long as it doesn't create a big impact particularly for already very short jobs19:45
ssbarnea1regarding ara, i think it may be changed to lower its footprint in both total size and number of files. i was planning to investigate that but didn't hat time.19:45
clarkbI'm less concerned if 3 hour tripleo job needs 10 minutes to upload files than 3 minute pep8 job needing 10 minutes to upload files19:45
corvusfungi: i'm not aware of js parsing sqlite libraries.  but if there were a way to store data in json or something js can deal with, maybe that'd be a possibility.  or maybe ssbarnea1's idea.  :)19:46
ssbarnea1at leas in theory javascript can work directly with sqlite files, meaning that instead of tons of json files on disk, ara could just download the sqlite file and get data from it.19:46
corvusssbarnea1: oh that's awesome!  that may be something worth looking into19:46
mordredfungi, corvus: https://github.com/kripken/sql.js/19:47
corvusi don't know what the ara middleware does right now; but i imagine a solution like that would look like implementing whatever that is in js...19:47
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fungianyway, bit of a rabbit hole19:47
fungisorry19:47
corvusit's worth talking about.  it's definitely the weak point in the plan.19:48
mordred++19:48
corvusmy argument is basically we should accept the cost as long as it's reasonable, because it's a net benefit.  but if we can minimize the cost, or even reverse it, great!19:48
clarkbfwiw similar discussion has come up re kata using zuul19:49
clarkbthey wanted to know how to make certain things htmly and the suggestion mnaser and I had was to write html that gets uploaded19:49
clarkbI also think outside of general zuul reporting the people best prepared to present their logs are the ones producing them19:49
corvusi think that's a good suggestion.  it gives folks local control and the system overall flexibility.19:50
clarkbwhat we've done with os loganalyze is sort of a "here is a best effort thing that adds some color based on a guess"19:50
corvusin my message to the zuul list, i do, however, suggest that we can js-ify osla and make it generic.  i think that might be a nice thing to do that would help out people in general, and probably handle a lot of the typical use cases.19:51
mordredyah. html-ifying log files with timestamps seems doable and friendly19:51
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clarkbcorvus: I do like that for very consistent and specific outputs like journald logs19:52
mordred++19:52
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clarkbwith python and openstack in particular we have never had that kind of consistency though19:52
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clarkbRunning out of time. Lets talk project renames really quickly19:53
clarkb#topic Project Renames19:53
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clarkbI sort of punted on this a couple weeks ago to see where we would be at today. I think at least one of us is on vacation over the next couple weeks. Rocky release schedule makes it look like July 30- August 3 is our best bet19:54
clarkbI expect I will be around taht week (parents are flying in night of the 2nd though)19:55
clarkbAnyone else expect to be around on say August 3 at 1600UTC?19:55
clarkbif so I can run it by the release team and see if that works19:55
fungii'll be around19:56
fungicount me in19:56
clarkb#info Project renames tentatively scheduled for August 3 at 1600UTC.19:57
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:57
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cmurphydo we want to set up a time to babysit https://review.openstack.org/582765 and maybe a few others and start making headway on that?19:58
ssbarnea1i have one subject, reviving few dormant projects19:58
clarkbcmurphy: I can help with that on Friday probably19:59
clarkb(I try to keep friday's clear for that sort of thing)19:59
fungias mentioned earlier, i have a mailman3 proof of concept going on. notes at:19:59
clarkbssbarnea1: go for it19:59
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mm3poc19:59
cmurphyclarkb: friday's not good for me :/19:59
fungiif anybody's interested in helping with it, i've got it most of the way there19:59
clarkbcmurphy: would thursday work instead? I can be flexible19:59
cmurphythursday works19:59
fungibut am disappearing for the next two weeks19:59
ssbarnea1examples: gerritlib, git-review, bashate.  I would like to help with them and I thin that electrofelix also wants the same.19:59
clarkbbut today and tomorrow probably need time to review more19:59
fungiall infra-root ssh keys should be accepted by lists-dev01.o.o20:00
ssbarnea1at least one of them has a review that is 36 months old!20:00
clarkbssbarnea1: yes there was the mailing list thread for git-review. I think that helped set expectations at least for that project?20:00
ssbarnea1indeed, i need to recheck the thread as I do not remember what was the conclusion.20:01
clarkbbashate isn't an infra project iirc it is a qa project. Gerritlib is definitely a case of it does what we need ti to do and otherwise doesn't get much attention but probably should. There is also an alternative implementation on pypi that maybe we should consider moving too? Unsure if that would work for zuul20:01
clarkbcorvus: ^ zuul may have interest in gerritlib in particular as a dep?20:02
ianwssbarnea1: yes, for bashate, i merged a few things and will do a release20:02
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clarkbNot to kill the conversation, but I do have a meeting in under half an hour I need to prep for. I'll stop the meeting here, but feel free to continue discussion in #openstack-infra or on the mailing list20:03
clarkbthank you everyone20:03
clarkb#endmeeting20:03
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