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| tpatil | Let's wait for 5 mins for samP to start Masakari meeting. If not, I will start the meeting | 03:02 |
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| samP | hi | 03:03 |
| tpatil | Hi | 03:04 |
| samP | sorry for the delay | 03:04 |
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| tpatil | NP | 03:04 |
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| tpatil | samP: Can you please start the meeting? | 03:06 |
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| samP_ | sorry, kicked off from sever | 03:11 |
| tpatil | Ok | 03:11 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: is meeting started? | 03:11 |
| tpatil | No | 03:11 |
| samP_ | OK, let me statrt | 03:11 |
| samP_ | #startmeeting masakari | 03:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 24 03:12:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 03:12 |
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| samP_ | sorry for the delay and bad connection | 03:12 |
| samP_ | Let's start meeting | 03:12 |
| samP_ | #topic High priority items | 03:12 |
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| samP_ | I would like to extend the feature freeze for another week for recovery method custormization | 03:16 |
| samP_ | my connection is unstable | 03:16 |
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| samP_ | About deprecating the python-masakariclient | 03:17 |
| tpatil | I will request Shilpa to send an email on mailing list asking for feature freeze exception | 03:18 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: sure, that's grate | 03:18 |
| samP_ | tpatil: thanks | 03:19 |
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| tpatil | python-masakariclient, I think it's a good idea to deprecate masakariclient becoz masakari-monitors and Masakari-dashobard both uses openstacksdk | 03:21 |
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| samP_ | really sorry for bad connection | 03:27 |
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| tpatil | NP | 03:27 |
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| samP_ | basically, agree to deprecate the pythonclient | 03:28 |
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| samP_ | my only concern is, now is too late to announce the deprecation for S | 03:29 |
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| samP_ | what do you think? | 03:30 |
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| tpatil | OK, so it should be deprecated in S release, correct? | 03:30 |
| samP_ | tpatil: correct | 03:30 |
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| samP_ | There will be no T or beyond | 03:31 |
| tpatil | I agree with the plan. Is it possible for you to send an email on the openstack-operators ML to get opinion from them | 03:31 |
| samP_ | tpatil: sure, I will do that | 03:31 |
| tpatil | Thanks | 03:32 |
| samP_ | in S release, we can test sdk and add any required features only in python-masakariclient (if any) | 03:32 |
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| tpatil | you mean add missing features in SDK so that there is no dependency on python-masakariclient | 03:33 |
| samP_ | tpatil: correct | 03:34 |
| tpatil | ok, I got it | 03:34 |
| samP_ | Any important items to discuss? | 03:34 |
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| samP_ | Otherwise let's move to Bug/patches | 03:34 |
| samP_ | #topic Critical Bug and Patches | 03:34 |
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| tpatil | About masakari-dashboard, I'm planning to review all remaining patches. Will be done in this week. | 03:35 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: Thanks, I will do the same | 03:36 |
| samP_ | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1779752 | 03:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1779752 in masakari "masakari segment-list returns error (openstack queens)" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to SamP (sampath-priyankara) | 03:36 |
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| tpatil | Are you able to find out the cause? | 03:37 |
| samP_ | Didn't have much time to look into this, but I will fix this today. | 03:37 |
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| tpatil | I will request Shilpa to look into this issue as well | 03:38 |
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| samP_ | we fix the client for 11.2, then updated to 11.3 and break again.. | 03:38 |
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| samP_ | we fix the client for 11.2, then updated to 11.3 and break again.. | 03:40 |
| samP_ | I think the problem is with keystone object, I remember fixing something same somewhere.. | 03:40 |
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| samP_ | I will update the LP bug with my findings | 03:40 |
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| tpatil | Ok | 03:40 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: thanks, please update the LP bug, if you got any clues | 03:41 |
| tpatil | Isn't it possible to use 0.11.2 openstacksdk in stable/queens branch? | 03:41 |
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| tpatil | #link : https://github.com/openstack/python-masakariclient/blob/stable/queens/requirements.txt | 03:41 |
| tpatil | currently it is openstacksdk>=0.9.19 | 03:41 |
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| tpatil | can we changed that to openstacksdk>=0.9.19,!=0.11.3 | 03:42 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: hummm, but the upper-constraints is openstacksdk===0.11.3 | 03:43 |
| samP_ | #link https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/queens/upper-constraints.txt | 03:43 |
| samP_ | ^ L411 | 03:43 |
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| tpatil | I think that's a big problem, we need some tests in masakari to ensure it's working with lower and upper constraints properly. | 03:44 |
| tpatil | Something to look at in the next release | 03:45 |
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| tpatil | by default tox install all dependencies using upper constraints, but then why none of the tests are failing in masakari/masakariclient/masakari-monitors | 03:47 |
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| tpatil | I will request Shilpa to run all tox tests masakari/masakariclient/masakari-monitors in stable/queens branch and see if all tests are passing or not. | 03:48 |
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| tpatil | if all tests are passing, need to add identify missing tests to cover this particular problem | 03:49 |
| samP_ | sorry, disconnected again.. | 03:50 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: I read the log.. | 03:51 |
| samP_ | agree, we need some test to make sure it work with upper and lower cases | 03:51 |
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| samP_ | tpatil: thanks. please share if you find any issues. | 03:52 |
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| tpatil | Sure | 03:52 |
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| samP___ | Any other other bugs or patches? | 03:53 |
| tpatil | few new issues are reported. We will work on these issues | 03:54 |
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| samP___ | tpatil: On masakari LP? | 03:56 |
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| tpatil | yes | 03:56 |
| tpatil | Failed to recover paused instance | 03:56 |
| tpatil | Failed to recover stopped instance | 03:56 |
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| samP___ | tpatil: got it. | 03:56 |
| tpatil | vm_state become error if vm_state is resized and power_state is shutdown | 03:56 |
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| tpatil | it seems that   takahara.kengo is working on fixing these issues | 03:57 |
| tpatil | Is there any other open bugs that you think we should work on top priority? | 03:58 |
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| samP___ | tpatil: yes it is. Let's keep watching, and please give any help if needed | 03:58 |
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| tpatil | Ok | 03:59 |
| samP___ | I went throug the bug list, but not any critical one left except above discussed | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Ok, will work on masakariclient issue | 04:00 |
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| samP___ | I will take a look at new bugs too. | 04:00 |
| tpatil | ok, thanks | 04:01 |
| samP___ | or, its time | 04:01 |
| samP___ | let's finish the meeting | 04:01 |
| samP___ | sorry for unstable connecton | 04:01 |
| samP___ | thanks you all for your time | 04:01 |
| samP___ | #endmeeting | 04:01 |
| tpatil | Thanks | 04:01 |
| samP___ | #endmeeting | 04:02 |
| tpatil | I think your nick name was different when you started this meeting | 04:02 |
| samP___ | dam. | 04:02 |
| tpatil | it was samP_ | 04:02 |
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| samP___ | yep | 04:04 |
| samP___ | tring to end meeting ;) | 04:04 |
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| samP_ | #endmeeting | 04:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 04:05:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-07-24-03.12.html | 04:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-07-24-03.12.txt | 04:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-07-24-03.12.log.html | 04:05 |
| tpatil | Great!!! | 04:05 |
| samP_ | Finally.... really sorry | 04:05 |
| tpatil | samP_: Bye | 04:06 |
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| samP_ | I will be in #opensack-masakari, | 04:06 |
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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 24 08:00:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:00 |
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| gongysh | #topic roll call | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:01 | |
| gongysh | hi | 08:01 |
| tpatil | Hi | 08:01 |
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| dkushwaha | o/ | 08:03 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, tpatil hi | 08:03 |
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| YanXingAn | hi | 08:03 |
| gongysh | YanXingAn, helo | 08:03 |
| gongysh | phuoc_ hi | 08:04 |
| phuoc_ | hi | 08:04 |
| joxyuki | hi | 08:04 |
| gongysh | YanXingAn, Li_Jiale is here? | 08:04 |
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| gongysh | joxyuki, helo | 08:04 |
| gongysh | #topic bp | 08:05 |
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| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579724/ | 08:05 |
| patchbot | patch 579724 - tacker - Support shared vim for policy action execution | 08:05 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, have time to test it? | 08:05 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, yea, i am testing it, and still getting KeyManagerError | 08:06 |
| dkushwaha | on lattest patch too | 08:06 |
| Li_Jiale | hi | 08:06 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, thanks | 08:06 |
| gongysh | we are closing to cut the rocky branch | 08:07 |
| gongysh | so Li_Jiale , we should work moonnights. | 08:07 |
| gongysh | :) | 08:07 |
| Li_Jiale | add admin role to tacker user , | 08:07 |
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| Li_Jiale | it work fine. | 08:07 |
| Li_Jiale | @gongysh | 08:08 |
| Li_Jiale | @dkushwaha | 08:08 |
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| Li_Jiale2 | dkushwaha_: you can test it again | 08:09 |
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| gongysh | ok | 08:10 |
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| dkushwaha_ | Li_Jiale: http://paste.openstack.org/show/726503/ | 08:11 |
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| Li_Jiale | reason is : tacker has no admin role. | 08:13 |
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| Li_Jiale | so occur this error. | 08:14 |
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| Li_Jiale | now fixed it . | 08:14 |
| dkushwaha_ | Li_Jiale: I source it with admin role | 08:15 |
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| YanXing_an | gongysh, dhushwaha_, we should consider whether it's suitable to add "admin" role to the "tacker" service account. | 08:16 |
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| gongysh | Li_Jiale, what is project castellan you are introducing? | 08:17 |
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| YanXing_an | currently, heat, placement, mistral, barbican, swift, and nova has admin role. | 08:19 |
| Li_Jiale | gongysh: | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | Castellan is the library of Barbican, working on the principle of providing | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | an abstracted key manager based on the configurations. In this manner, | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | several different management services can be supported through a single | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | interface. In addition to the key manager, Castellan also provides primitives | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | for various types of secrets (for example, asymmetric keys,simple | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | passphrases, and certificates). These primitives are used in conjunction | 08:20 |
| Li_Jiale | with the key manager to create, store, retrieve, and destroy managed secrets. | 08:20 |
| gongysh | Li_Jiale, ok | 08:20 |
| dkushwaha_ | YanXing_an: I am not seeing any issue with assigning admin role to service account. | 08:20 |
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| gongysh | Li_Jiale, CONF.vim_keys.all_vims_shared | 08:21 |
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| gongysh | where is the all_vims_shared configure item defined? | 08:21 |
| YanXing_an | dkushwaha_, ok, thanks | 08:21 |
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| Li_Jiale | all_vims_shared was deleted. | 08:23 |
| Li_Jiale | don't want it any more. | 08:23 |
| Li_Jiale | @gongysh | 08:23 |
| gongysh | so the patch is still buggy? | 08:23 |
| gongysh | :) | 08:23 |
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| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579620/1 | 08:24 |
| patchbot | patch 579620 - tacker-specs - Support shared vim for policy action execution | 08:24 |
| gongysh | please update the spec too. | 08:24 |
| Li_Jiale | sorry , i will update it. | 08:25 |
| dkushwaha_ | Li_Jiale: if the latest patch working fine, could you please let me know the steps(after this meeting is also fine) how you tested it. I would like to test it again. | 08:25 |
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| Li_Jiale | dkushwaha: ok , after meeting, talk about it in tacker channal. | 08:28 |
| dkushwaha_ | Li_Jiale: Thanks | 08:28 |
| gongysh | any reply to dkushwaha_ ? | 08:28 |
| gongysh | ok | 08:28 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570845/ | 08:28 |
| patchbot | patch 570845 - tacker - Add placement policies support | 08:28 |
| tpatil | gongysh: thank you for approving our specs | 08:28 |
| gongysh | policy patch, dkushwaha_ has gived +1, said a failed test case by him. | 08:28 |
| YanXing_an | Li_Jiale, you can update doc/source/contributor/encrypt_vim_auth_with_barbican.rst with new steps. | 08:29 |
| tpatil | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578170/ | 08:29 |
| patchbot | patch 578170 - tacker - WIP: Add multinode jobs | 08:29 |
| tpatil | I have confirmed multinode job is working as expected. I have verified instances are booted on the compute node | 08:29 |
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| gongysh | tpatil, a big step forward. | 08:30 |
| tpatil | Should I add a new multinode job along the existing one in the above patch? | 08:30 |
| gongysh | tpatil, what is the blocker now? | 08:30 |
| tpatil | IMO, nothing | 08:30 |
| gongysh | no need for single node. | 08:30 |
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| tpatil | I have written one functional test to verify VNF with anti-affinity fails on single compute node. | 08:31 |
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| tpatil | If that test is needed ,we need single node. | 08:31 |
| tpatil | I'm talking about "test_vnf_with_placement_policy_anti_affinity_on_single_comp_node" functional test | 08:32 |
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| gongysh | tpatil, you can start a three vdu vnf with two node env. | 08:33 |
| gongysh | to test strict anti-affinity | 08:33 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: tpatil I tested the patch on my single node env with singleconductor and seeing no issue for affinity and anti-affinity. But not sure about the behaviour of soft-affinity (as commented on patch too). | 08:33 |
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| gongysh | so we can remove single node job to avoid a long time CI for each code patch. | 08:34 |
| tpatil | gongysh: Ok, I can add this new test in my next patch | 08:35 |
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| gongysh | tpatil, thanks for the multi node ci job. | 08:35 |
| gongysh | hope we can merge the ci job and policy patch next week. | 08:36 |
| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 08:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:36 | |
| gongysh | any thing to talk? | 08:36 |
| tpatil | gongysh: Yes, I will upload all necessary changes by tomorrow my time | 08:37 |
| gongysh | by the way, I have released python-tackerclient. | 08:37 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583795/ is it just a testing and "not to merge" patch ? | 08:37 |
| patchbot | patch 583795 - tacker - [NOT MERGE]test to run ansible playbook on multi n... | 08:37 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha_, I want to run a multi node env: first install target two node openstack via kolla-ansible, and then install tacker system by devstack. | 08:38 |
| gongysh | this way, the CI jobs are more like our true deployment. | 08:39 |
| gongysh | later, I am planning to install a target k8s two. | 08:40 |
| gongysh | so we will have one three node k8s and one two-node opoenstack, and a destack tacker system. at CI job. | 08:41 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: I see | 08:41 |
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| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: i think, in this patch functional tests jobs are removed from there | 08:42 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha_, it is still in infancy. | 08:43 |
| gongysh | later, the functional tests will be enalbed. | 08:43 |
| gongysh | I have assigned my colleague to do it. | 08:43 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: ok got it | 08:44 |
| gongysh | anything else? | 08:45 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, hi | 08:45 |
| gongysh | phuoc_ ? | 08:45 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572728/ I responded on your comment | 08:45 |
| phuoc_ | I fix some bugs in NS | 08:45 |
| patchbot | patch 572728 - tacker - Correct error handling for PENDING_DELETE VNFs. | 08:45 |
| phuoc_ | I tried to finish some bugs soon | 08:46 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572728/ | 08:47 |
| patchbot | patch 572728 - tacker - Correct error handling for PENDING_DELETE VNFs. | 08:47 |
| gongysh | what do you think of it? YanXing_an , phuoc_ ? | 08:47 |
| phuoc_ | I think we should prevent users can't delete resources in some special cases | 08:47 |
| phuoc_ | but let them do it with force | 08:47 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha_. so please register a bp for user to forcly delete the resources. | 08:48 |
| dkushwaha_ | phuoc_: +1, we needs to introduce force delete for that | 08:48 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: sure | 08:49 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, agree with phuoc_, we need force delete IMO | 08:49 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha_, add reno note for this patch too. | 08:49 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: ok | 08:50 |
| gongysh | this week, we must freeze feature code. I don't think I can put off it any longer. | 08:51 |
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| gongysh | thanks | 08:51 |
| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: What is last date? | 08:52 |
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| gongysh | Just a quick reminder that this week is a big one for deadlines. | 08:52 |
| gongysh | This Thursday, July 26, is our scheduled deadline for feature freeze, soft | 08:52 |
| gongysh | string freeze, client library freeze, and requirements freeze. | 08:52 |
| gongysh | this is from release team. | 08:52 |
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| dkushwaha_ | gongysh: ok | 08:53 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 08:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 08:53:28 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-24-08.00.html | 08:53 |
| tpatil | gongysh: For add policy support, I will keep all things ready otherwise I request for feature freeze exception just in case it's not merged in this week | 08:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-24-08.00.txt | 08:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-07-24-08.00.log.html | 08:53 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 24 16:00:35 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hi mlavalle | 16:01 |
| slaweq | njohnston: are You around? | 16:01 |
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| slaweq | I think that there will be only 2 of us today mlavalle :) | 16:02 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: always nice to talk to you :-) | 16:02 |
| slaweq | so let's start, maybe someone will join later | 16:03 |
| slaweq | thx :) | 16:03 |
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| slaweq | and it's also very nice to talk to You :) | 16:03 |
| slaweq | so let's do it quickly | 16:03 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:03 | |
| slaweq | njohnston to see if we can set the default time period on the grafana dashboard to now-7d | 16:03 |
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| slaweq | I have no idea if he did something with that | 16:04 |
| slaweq | but it's not urgent for sure so we can wait for next week then | 16:04 |
| slaweq | next one | 16:04 |
| slaweq | slaweq to talk about issue with test_create_server_with_scheduler_hint_group_anti_affinity with nova-neutron liaison | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | did you get a hold of him? | 16:05 |
| slaweq | I talked with Sean last week, they was aware of this issue | 16:05 |
| slaweq | Sean told me that patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583347/ should solve this | 16:05 |
| patchbot | patch 583347 - nova - Update RequestSpec.instance_uuid during scheduling (MERGED) | 16:05 |
| slaweq | and this patch was merged today | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | ah, that's cool | 16:05 |
| slaweq | so I hope it will be better now :) | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | Great! | 16:06 |
| slaweq | because it happend quite often in multinode jobs recently | 16:06 |
| slaweq | and last action was: | 16:06 |
| slaweq | * mlavalle/haleyb to check dvr (dvr-ha) env and shelve/unshelve server | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | I didn't have time to do that | 16:06 |
| slaweq | I guess haleyb also didn't have time before his PTO :) | 16:06 |
| slaweq | can I assign it to You for next week also? | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | I'll try to follow up at the end of the week | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | yes, assign it to me | 16:07 |
| slaweq | #action mlavalle to check dvr (dvr-ha) env and shelve/unshelve server | 16:07 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:07 |
| slaweq | I found that it happend once or twice in non dvr job also | 16:07 |
| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/31/584431/2/check/tempest-full/e789052/testr_results.html.gz | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | ahhh | 16:08 |
| slaweq | sorry | 16:08 |
| slaweq | ignore this link please | 16:08 |
| slaweq | it is same test failed but now I checked that there is different reason there | 16:08 |
| slaweq | so it's not same issue | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | ack | 16:09 |
| slaweq | but there is another one: http://logs.openstack.org/26/575326/13/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/6886894/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:09 |
| slaweq | this looks at first glance as similar issue | 16:10 |
| slaweq | and it's not dvr | 16:10 |
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| slaweq | but in neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full job it happens very often - I found 16 examples when I was checking patches from last few days | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | yeah, looks similar | 16:11 |
| slaweq | ok, if You will need any help on that, ping me :) | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I'm not an dvr expert but I can try to help maybe | 16:11 |
| slaweq | moving on to next topic? | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:12 |
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| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:13 |
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| slaweq | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:13 |
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| mlavalle | SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW | 16:14 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:14 |
| slaweq | but generally speaking it looks quite good in this week | 16:14 |
| slaweq | almost all jobs are below 20% of failures | 16:14 |
| * mlavalle notices that in the 7 days look, there is a gap | 16:15 | |
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| slaweq | yes, but it's only for gate jobs | 16:16 |
| slaweq | for check queue there is no this gap | 16:16 |
| slaweq | sorry, it is | 16:16 |
| slaweq | but I know that there were some issus with infra recently | 16:16 |
| slaweq | that logs server was down or something like that | 16:16 |
| slaweq | so maybe that's the reason | 16:16 |
| slaweq | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Status | 16:18 |
| slaweq | it was 2018-07-19 | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that mey be the reason | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | may | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | other than the gap, it seems our CI is behaving well | 16:19 |
| slaweq | yep, quite good imo | 16:19 |
| slaweq | so I went today through results of CI jobs for latest neutron patches | 16:19 |
| slaweq | I checked whole first page from gerrit :) | 16:20 |
| slaweq | and I checked what were the resons of failures | 16:20 |
| slaweq | I think we can now talk about some of them | 16:20 |
| slaweq | #topic Scenarios | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scenarios (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:20 | |
| * mlavalle thanks slaweq for doing that | 16:20 | |
| slaweq | most of those issus are related to scenario jobs in fact | 16:21 |
| slaweq | I found some issues with unit tests or others but when checking them, it looked that failures are related to patch on which it was run | 16:21 |
| slaweq | so let's go through tempest jobs then | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:22 |
| slaweq | first job is neutron-tempest-multinode-full which is failing quite often | 16:22 |
| slaweq | in most of the cases it was failed because of this affinity test issue mentioned at the begining of the meeting | 16:23 |
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| mlavalle | so we should see a marked improvement soon | 16:23 |
| slaweq | here yes, I hope so | 16:23 |
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| slaweq | other than that there were issues with volumes, live-migration, tagging devices and shelve|unshelve instance | 16:24 |
| slaweq | so except this issue with shelve - not related to neutron | 16:24 |
| slaweq | about issue with tagging devices, like: * http://logs.openstack.org/73/565773/3/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/6748276/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | and this shelve issue is the one you assigned to me above, right? | 16:24 |
| slaweq | right :) | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:25 |
| slaweq | about tagging issue, my patch to tempest was merged and I found in logs that it's volume which isn't removed from metadata | 16:25 |
| slaweq | I even sent email about that few days ago to ask for some help from Nova and Cinder side | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | I saw it | 16:25 |
| slaweq | I hope they will fix this issue as it looks as real bug, not only test issue | 16:26 |
| slaweq | and that's all about this job basically - issues are not related to neutron | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | \o/ | 16:27 |
| slaweq | next job is neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full | 16:27 |
| slaweq | here I also found some issues with volumes and tagging devices | 16:27 |
| slaweq | also really a lot of failures of this shelve/unshelve tests | 16:28 |
| slaweq | and one test which may be related to neutron: * http://logs.openstack.org/48/580548/2/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/dc195b7/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:28 |
| slaweq | it looks like here there was an issue with ssh to FIP | 16:28 |
| slaweq | from instance's console log it looks like there was even no fixed ip configured on it | 16:32 |
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| mlavalle | mhhh | 16:32 |
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| slaweq | it will require some more debugging IMO | 16:35 |
| slaweq | I don't see anything wrong what could be related to this issue | 16:36 |
| slaweq | nova properly started and then unpaused this instance, so neutron should send notification that port is active | 16:36 |
| slaweq | so L2 agent (probably) did his job right | 16:36 |
| slaweq | do You see anything related to this issue there maybe? | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | no | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | do you want me to spend sometime with it? | 16:38 |
| slaweq | I will try to investigate it more if I will have some time for it | 16:38 |
| slaweq | You are already very busy so I will take care of it | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 16:39 |
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| slaweq | #action slaweq to check why there was no network connection in neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full test | 16:40 |
| slaweq | from other jobs, there was also one issue with ssh to instance in neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid: * http://logs.openstack.org/07/574907/20/gate/neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid/1594a88/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:40 |
| slaweq | but here it might be related to volume as it's "boot from volume" test or something like that | 16:42 |
| slaweq | I will check that also if that is related to neutron or not | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | ack | 16:42 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to check neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid ssh connection issue | 16:43 |
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| slaweq | in other tests I found only some failures related to volumes | 16:43 |
| slaweq | and one timeout in * neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario | 16:43 |
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| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/83/584383/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/2e3af27/job-output.txt.gz | 16:43 |
| slaweq | but as this timeout was only once, I don't think that we should now do something with it | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:44 |
| slaweq | and that's all from my side for today | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | so, all in all, we are in good shape, aren't we? | 16:44 |
| slaweq | basically I think that we are quite good now with CI :) | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | Great | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | good job slaweq | 16:45 |
| slaweq | I also think that there is a bit less rechecks recently on patches | 16:45 |
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| slaweq | and patches are merged a bit faster now IMO | 16:45 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle but it's not because of me :) | 16:45 |
| slaweq | it's all team's work :) | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | you help a lot | 16:46 |
| slaweq | thx :) | 16:46 |
| slaweq | I don't have anything else for today | 16:46 |
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| slaweq | do You want to talk about something else maybe? | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | me neither, let's go and try to nail this release ;-) | 16:46 |
| slaweq | sure | 16:47 |
| slaweq | thx a lot | 16:47 |
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| slaweq | #endmeeting | 16:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 16:47:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-07-24-16.00.html | 16:47 |
| slaweq | bye | 16:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-07-24-16.00.txt | 16:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-07-24-16.00.log.html | 16:47 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:47 |
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| clarkb | Hello, anyone here for the infra meeting? | 18:59 |
| ianw | o/ | 18:59 |
| corvus | o/ | 18:59 |
| ssbarnea | yep | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 24 19:01:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | OpenStack PTL nominations open at the end of day today UTC | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | Also it is feature freeze week so everyone is running around crazy busy | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-denver-2018 Also the PTG is coming up, brainstorming ideas there much appreciated (also more detail on config management changes may be good) | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-17-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:03 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:03 |
| clarkb | ianw and fungi were going to POC letsencrypt but I think fungi is still trying his hardest to do that vacation thing. ianw have you managed to look at that yet? | 19:04 |
| clarkb | and mordred was going to start looking at porting our base puppet module to ansible (but I may have tricked him into reviewing some of the other config spec related puppet-4 changes instead) | 19:04 |
| mordred | yeah - I reviewed a bunch of puppet | 19:04 |
| mordred | just now have system-config open looking at the base ansible | 19:05 |
| ianw | i have not done anything useful with that yet | 19:05 |
| clarkb | fwiw the puppet-4 work from cmurphy seems to be moving steadily along. We've got two servers running with the puppet 4 parser now (review-dev and groups-dev) and I plan to add a third after this meeting (groups.o.o) | 19:05 |
| mordred | also - so much puppet | 19:05 |
| clarkb | when I say "I plan to" I really mean cmurphy did most of the work and I just get to approve the change and watch that the service remains happy | 19:06 |
| clarkb | ianw: no worries. I know I'm deifnitely in this feature freeze making things unhappy firefighting state | 19:07 |
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| mordred | clarkb: that's what I usually mean when I say I'm going to do something | 19:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: although sometimes s/cmurphy/clarkb/ :) | 19:07 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/585514 Follow up on config management update spec to make it a priority effort | 19:08 |
| patchbot | patch 585514 - openstack-infra/infra-specs - Make update-config-management priority effort | 19:08 |
| clarkb | I didn't catch that until today | 19:08 |
| corvus | that seems more than reasonable :) | 19:08 |
| clarkb | corvus: I think so :) appreciate it if we can get general consensus of +1s o nthat though | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | I'll admit I've largely been focused on this spec the last little while, but I've caught some movement on other specs from ianw and tristanC | 19:09 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ is the third party ci direction spec somethin we should be looking at nowish? | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563849/ Third party CI direction spec | 19:10 |
| patchbot | patch 563849 - openstack-infra/infra-specs - Direction setting for 3rd Party CI | 19:10 |
| ianw | there was some chatter on it last week. i will update from comments, then maybe we should loop back on it | 19:11 |
| clarkb | ianw: ok, sounds like a plan | 19:11 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/581214 Anomoly detection in CI/CD jobs spec | 19:11 |
| patchbot | patch 581214 - openstack-infra/infra-specs - Add anomaly detection in CI/CD jobs specification ... | 19:11 |
| clarkb | is the other spec, looks like tristanc may still be calling it a draft but I'm sure input if you have time would be appreciated | 19:12 |
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| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:12 | |
| clarkb | I'm not sure how much of an update for storyboard we'll have. Seems like the biggest things happening there are feedback from new airship and starlingx users | 19:13 |
| mordred | I thought cfriessen had a nice clear email on that topic to the list that felt like good feedback from a fresh set of eyes | 19:14 |
| mordred | but I didn't have anything use to respond | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | yup the feedback was good, but I similarly don't really have enough of storyboard paged in to write a useful response | 19:14 |
| clarkb | Storyboard's outreachy intern is also pushing up patches and getting local testing to work (setting up the database is always fun) | 19:15 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/556648/ | 19:15 |
| patchbot | patch 556648 - openstack-infra/storyboard - Validating task status in the API | 19:15 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583085/ | 19:15 |
| patchbot | patch 583085 - openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient - Exposing task creator name in search results | 19:15 |
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| clarkb | On the update config management spec (lets just assume it is a priority spec forthis meeting :) ) cmurphy continues to push on the puppet life support changes. topic:puppet-4 if you are interested in reviewing those | 19:16 |
| clarkb | and the big chang ethere is we are now using the puppet 4 parser in puppet 3 on a couple nodes | 19:16 |
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| clarkb | I think the rough plan is to migrate things over to that newer parser as a pre step as it is just a line of config should we need to revert | 19:16 |
| clarkb | then once those look good we can upgrade to puppet 4 proper | 19:17 |
| clarkb | and that will get us on puppet that has life support | 19:17 |
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| mordred | ++ | 19:17 |
| clarkb | pbrx jobs are also showing up on some projects so I expect we'll start publishing images in the near future and possible work on converting some services (zuul nodepool?) directly to container based deployments? | 19:18 |
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| clarkb | pbrx is a tool monty wrote to build docker images for python projects given they use pbr and have bindep files | 19:18 |
| clarkb | standardizes that process in a self contained way | 19:18 |
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| clarkb | mordred: any other config management update items for today? | 19:19 |
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| mordred | not really ... although at some point we might want to talk about whether pbrx being a random project is the right choice long term | 19:20 |
| mordred | atm, infra-core (cause infra) and oslo-core (cause pbr) have +2 on it | 19:20 |
| mordred | I think it's fine for now - just a note for the future | 19:20 |
| mordred | oh, yeah - on the images | 19:21 |
| corvus | i find it an un-objectionable project. :) | 19:21 |
| mordred | the images are buiding fine, whic his great | 19:21 |
| mordred | next step is publishing them | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:21 |
| mordred | then yeah, they'll be available for us to start thinking about using in our zuul/nodepool deployments | 19:21 |
| mordred | we should be able to add the job to any of our python/pbr-based projects | 19:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: is there a goal of pushing that to openstack as well? | 19:22 |
| mordred | for non-zuul things, I grabbed the openstackinfra org on dockerhub ... that sound like a good place to put things to folks? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: wfm | 19:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: I dunno - maybe? I mean, I don't want to drive that | 19:22 |
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| clarkb | mordred: fair enough | 19:23 |
| mordred | it's certainly possible to use it on any openstack project | 19:23 |
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| mordred | in fact, I did chat with notmyname a bit about it - and it's _possible_ he might want to look at it for swift | 19:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh right swift was why the alpine work in bindep started | 19:24 |
| mordred | although there is a patch that needs to be submitted up to pyxattr first to make it able to build in alpine | 19:25 |
| clarkb | that is independent of bindep and pbrx though right? that is a separate part of swift's dep tree? | 19:25 |
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| mordred | yup | 19:25 |
| mordred | pyxattr is missing a #include <sys/types.h> - in xattr/lib_build.py on in the final #else around line 40 | 19:26 |
| mordred | in case anybody feels like figuring out sending them a patch | 19:26 |
| clarkb | heh | 19:26 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | aiui jbryce does still intend on putting a followup email together on the winterscale naming effort | 19:27 |
| clarkb | but not much other news on that front today | 19:27 |
| clarkb | corvus: swift logs still something you would like to talk about | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ? | 19:27 |
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| corvus | clarkb: left over from last week, but if folks have questions i'm happy to answer. i expect to push up a reviewable version of the upload role ... today? | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | I look forward to reviewing that | 19:28 |
| ssbarnea | one topic: git-review tool maintenance and reviews. | 19:29 |
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| clarkb | ssbarnea: we should have time at the tail end of items at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:30 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: base job update is next in the list | 19:30 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-July/006030.html | 19:30 |
| pabelanger | yay, this was mostly to see if people that it was a good idea or not for me to push up some patches | 19:30 |
| scas | o/ | 19:31 |
| pabelanger | I think it would be something good to land to help minimize the base / base-test steps we need to do for untrusted changes, like configure-mirror | 19:31 |
| clarkb | the summary is basically to reduce the size of our base job to the things that need privileged access to secrets and put the remainder of tasks in a separate base job that didn't need to go in a trusted repo | 19:31 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: exactly | 19:31 |
| clarkb | I'm in favor of it, my one concern is that this will affect all jobs and we are in the middle of feature freeze for openstack | 19:32 |
| clarkb | waiting for next week to land changes is probably a good idea (though we could start proposing things now) | 19:32 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:32 |
| pabelanger | sure, I can propose now, and we can review and decided when to land. We managed to do it in rdoproject without breaking anything :) | 19:33 |
| clarkb | It will make it easier to test changes to the base too | 19:33 |
| clarkb | which is ++ good | 19:33 |
| clarkb | (because more changes will be self testing) | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:33 |
| corvus | yeah, i see no reason not to start on it, even if we avoid switching 'base' itself for a week or so | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | thanks, all I had | 19:34 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: you also wanted to talk about the long standingtodo to swich up how we grab logs on jobs | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-October/005606.html | 19:34 |
| clarkb | I want to say mordred and ajaeger had been working on this | 19:34 |
| clarkb | and it is largely a matter of moving things through in a backward compat manner? | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | oh, yes. This is mostly saying I want take over driving this from mordred, I've started testing again, and seem like something we could also land after the base change above | 19:35 |
| mordred | yes. pabelanger has picked up that ball. I also removed a -2 from frickler on the first job in the stack, since it was a procedural one and he's out righ tnow | 19:35 |
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| pabelanger | yah, I think it would be too late in the cycle to do it now, feature free, but something once stien starts | 19:35 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: the base job split won't make this easier though as this requires secrets right? | 19:35 |
| clarkb | ya making large scale changes to job function (not just organization) might be difficult | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: the first part of copying logs back to the executor won't need secrets, so that can be tested | 19:36 |
| clarkb | but I think we can work on preparing for it while we wait | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | yah, think it just needs eyes on the jobs, make sure we all understand, and schedule cut over | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | and would like to do that after base changes | 19:36 |
| clarkb | sounds reasonable to me | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | anything else on that? | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | the goal is to also use this in rdoproject, log publisher | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | none, thanks | 19:37 |
| corvus | oh good | 19:37 |
| corvus | that's the document i was asking about the other day | 19:37 |
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| corvus | i'll look that over again and talk with pabelanger if i see any potential conflicts with the swift logs work | 19:38 |
| clarkb | corvus: ++ | 19:38 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | ssbarnea: git-review tool maintenance and reviews you have the floor | 19:38 |
| ssbarnea | i want to get git-review CRs reviewed and merged (or rejected). | 19:39 |
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| ssbarnea | not sure who to ping on these, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/git-review+status:open | 19:40 |
| clarkb | ssbarnea: fungi volunteered a long time ago to be the "maintainer" for git-review, I think many of us tend to defer to fungi on those sorts of decisions. Maybe a good step forward is for you to followup to the mailing list thread with a categorization of changes "bug fixes we need to merge, features that would be good to have under fungis criteria, features probably not acceptable" (or whatver the | 19:41 |
| clarkb | criteria are) then we can get fungi and other infra reviewers to take a look at them? | 19:41 |
| clarkb | ideally that would make it easy to get important bug fixes in asap then we can sort through the feature work | 19:42 |
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| ssbarnea | without mentioning specific reviews it looks like lack of enough reviews for making them pass. we can remove those with negative votes and the list would still be long. | 19:42 |
| ssbarnea | i will try the mailing list | 19:43 |
| corvus | triage will help here | 19:43 |
| clarkb | even if you just wanted to start by identifying some important bug fixes I think that would get the ball moving | 19:43 |
| clarkb | and hopefully as the list gets smaller it will be easier to keep up | 19:45 |
| ssbarnea | clarkb: that's the idea, to triage (including abandonin old reviews that are obsolete or not wanted). | 19:46 |
| clarkb | ssbarnea: yup, I think if you are able to provide your triage to fungi (and the rest of us via the mailing list) that will help us further push things along | 19:47 |
| ssbarnea | we did the same on jjb, it was a mess one year ago. time to "sanitize" the CR queue for git-review. | 19:47 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:47 |
| ssbarnea | ok, i will do so. soon elextrofelix will be back from vacation and he will help too as he expressed interest in that. | 19:47 |
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| ssbarnea | i can +/- on that but is not helping too much, better make a list and send email to mailing list and cc fungi. | 19:48 |
| clarkb | sounds good, thanks | 19:49 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | With 10 minutes left anything else we want ot bring up? | 19:49 |
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| scas | i have an open review for unretiring the openstack-chef project i mentioned on #openstack-infra earlier. i understand that it requires gerrit downtime | 19:50 |
| clarkb | scas: looks like you added it to the rename list on the meeting agenda | 19:50 |
| clarkb | scas: our current penciled in date for doing those renames in August 3 around 1600UTC | 19:51 |
| scas | that works for me | 19:51 |
| clarkb | we'll probably follow up with you next week on making sure everything is ready to go on that | 19:52 |
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| scas | of course. | 19:52 |
| clarkb | in general news we stopped using our mirror of pypi as we ran out of disk and are caching that with a proxy instead | 19:54 |
| ianw | i've spent a bit of time getting readthedocs new api working; which now requires authentication. see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583449/ . however i think it will all work better with per-project info which i've proposed in zuul with https://review.openstack.org/584230 . so reviews welcome on that | 19:54 |
| clarkb | I've also been working with john_studarus to improve the reliability of packethost which seems to be pretty close to happy now | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | ianw: neat, feature would allow you to define project level variables that jobs consumed? | 19:57 |
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| clarkb | I think we actually used a lot of this in jjb once upon a time | 19:57 |
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| ianw | clarkb: yep, that's the intent of the zuul change @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583449 | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I like that | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and we are out of time | 20:00 |
| clarkb | thanks everyone | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 20:00:14 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-24-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-24-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-07-24-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 24 21:00:21 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | I even spelled it right | 21:00 |
| janders | g'day all! :) | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_July_24th_2018 | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Hey janders! | 21:00 |
| trandles | o/ | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Tim - you made it - bravo | 21:01 |
| oneswig | How is PEARC18? | 21:01 |
| trandles | it's good...I'm only here today :P | 21:01 |
| oneswig | you were in the UK last week, right? | 21:01 |
| trandles | Mike and Martial should make it too | 21:01 |
| oneswig | How was that? | 21:01 |
| trandles | yeah | 21:01 |
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| trandles | busy and tiring | 21:01 |
| trandles | long days | 21:01 |
| oneswig | It's ruddy hot over here right now, you'd have fitted right in. | 21:02 |
| janders | thanks for the voting reminder! :) | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Would have been just like that time you had no AC :-) | 21:02 |
| oneswig | janders: ah, right, lets get onto that. | 21:02 |
| oneswig | #topic Voting closes thursday | 21:02 |
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| trandles | I used to think we over-air conditioned in the US...no more | 21:02 |
| oneswig | trandles: I'm melting over here... | 21:03 |
| oneswig | We visited CERN last week. Big surprise there was that the offices (in Geneva) have no AC. | 21:04 |
| trandles | I'm impressed with the beers from Tiny Rebel btw. Wish we could get them in the states. | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Tiny rebel? I'll look out for it. Whereabouts was this? | 21:04 |
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| janders | whoa... it's been close to 40C last time I visited. Would be painful to work in offices without AC if that were to last for days.. | 21:05 |
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| trandles_ | sorry, wifi here is really dodgy | 21:05 |
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| oneswig | trandles_: where's the conference? | 21:05 |
| trandles_ | Pittsburgh | 21:06 |
| martial__ | I am seriously waiting for IRC to add 5 ___ to my nick at some point :) | 21:06 |
| martial__ | hey Stig | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Hey martial__, welcome | 21:06 |
| trandles_ | expect jmlowe, martial__, me to have connection problems | 21:06 |
| oneswig | #chair martial__ | 21:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial__ oneswig | 21:06 |
| jmlowe | Not me, different hotel | 21:06 |
| martial__ | well Mr Randles, long time no see :) | 21:06 |
| trandles_ | lol | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Hi jmlowe | 21:06 |
| jmlowe | Hey Stig | 21:06 |
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| oneswig | How was the panel - is this filmed? | 21:06 |
| martial__ | Mike: too easy | 21:06 |
| martial__ | not filmed | 21:07 |
| martial__ | I think it went well | 21:07 |
| trandles_ | oneswig: Tiny Rebel is just north of Cardiff I think | 21:07 |
| oneswig | tough crowd? | 21:07 |
| oneswig | trandles_: not too far at all then. I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks | 21:07 |
| martial__ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pearc18-panel | 21:07 |
| martial__ | here are the questions we went through | 21:07 |
| martial__ | (well most of them anyhow) | 21:07 |
| trandles_ | ah, it's in Newport | 21:08 |
| janders | stig: I see you've got some _really_ cool presos submitted | 21:08 |
| martial__ | yep reused the Etherpad method ... worked well in truth | 21:08 |
| oneswig | I know those people :-) | 21:08 |
| oneswig | janders: thanks! Have you got a link to yours? | 21:08 |
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| janders | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers#/22223 | 21:09 |
| janders | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers#/22219 | 21:09 |
| janders | https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers#/22164 | 21:09 |
| oneswig | I'm guessing most of the NSF folks are doing SC instead of Berlin so this is of passing interest but voting for sessions closes Thursday | 21:09 |
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| martial__ | 3x really good "I would love to see topics" from me | 21:10 |
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| martial__ | but no favoritism ... send your proposal in :) | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Erez and Moshe up with you again, eh? Like the 3 Musketeers :-) | 21:10 |
| janders | yes :)O | 21:10 |
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| janders | though for the nova-compute on Ironic we team up with RHAT for a change | 21:11 |
| oneswig | janders: It sounds like this trick is in use at CERN also - talk to Arne Wiebalck about it | 21:12 |
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| janders | speaking of.. sorry I was real busy and never followed up with John on the compute/ironic bit. Are you back in office oneswig? | 21:12 |
| oneswig | janders: did you get it doing everything you wanted and what are the limitations? Don't keep us hanging until november! | 21:12 |
| oneswig | Right now I'm in Cambridge, but close enough | 21:12 |
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| oneswig | Here's the talks from our team | 21:13 |
| janders | :) I will try to restart that email thread this week or early next | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Doug: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22078 | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Stig: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22446 | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Stig: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22233 | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Mark: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22454 | 21:13 |
| oneswig | Mark: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22579 | 21:13 |
| oneswig | John: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22438 | 21:13 |
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| oneswig | There's also some interesting developments on various fronts around preemptible instances | 21:14 |
| oneswig | priteau pointed out a talk from the Blazar core on delivering these within that context. | 21:15 |
| oneswig | janders: please do, I'm sure john would be interested. | 21:15 |
| janders | oneswig: that's some really excellent stuff. It's all great, monasca, preemptible instances and container networking are supercool | 21:15 |
| martial__ | +3'ed all | 21:15 |
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| martial__ | next? :) | 21:16 |
| oneswig | ... in each case, when they work! :-) | 21:16 |
| oneswig | Good plan, thanks martial__ | 21:16 |
| oneswig | #topic Ansible+OpenHPC | 21:16 |
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| oneswig | A topic of longstanding interest over here. | 21:16 |
| janders | yes! :) | 21:16 |
| oneswig | You guys in Pittsburgh, right? How about calling in at Santa Clara on your way home... | 21:17 |
| oneswig | #link OpenHPC event https://lists.openhpc.community/g/main/message/4 | 21:17 |
| oneswig | BTW that link's not an error. This was apparently the 4th message this year on the OpenHPC mailing list | 21:17 |
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| martial__ | there was a presentation on OpenHPC yesterday I think | 21:19 |
| oneswig | There's some playbooks online already: https://github.com/Linaro/ansible-playbook-for-ohpc | 21:19 |
| oneswig | Apparently following the Warewulf-style deploy process. | 21:19 |
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| oneswig | What I'm hoping is that once the infrastructure is deployed, there's a natural point where OpenStack-provisioned infrastructure could dovetail into the flow | 21:20 |
| martial__ | Tim, Mike: did Evan not speak about this in our panel? | 21:20 |
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| trandles | um...yeah kinda | 21:20 |
| oneswig | They are using OpenHPC at Minnesota? | 21:21 |
| jmlowe | in passing | 21:21 |
| jmlowe | I think he went to the talk yesterday | 21:21 |
| martial__ | was looking for it in the agenda, not sure it is there | 21:22 |
| oneswig | A talk on OpenHPC? | 21:22 |
| jmlowe | yes | 21:22 |
| trandles | tbh I'm still not sure what OpenHPC provides of value other than a collection of things you might want on your cluster | 21:22 |
| oneswig | They even have this: http://build.openhpc.community/OpenHPC:/1.3:/Update6:/Factory/CentOS_7/x86_64/charliecloud-ohpc-0.9.0-4.1.ohpc.1.3.6.x86_64.rpm - what more could you want? | 21:23 |
| trandles | lol, touché | 21:23 |
| trandles | but you can get that via "git clone https://github.com/hpc/charliecloud" | 21:24 |
| martial__ | I'll +3 this one too :) | 21:24 |
| oneswig | trandles: we like it because it's a lot easier to automate the deploy and configure | 21:24 |
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| oneswig | someone's gone to the trouble of building and packaging. Maybe even testing | 21:24 |
| trandles | I'm leaning more and more to the side of containerized the world, stop provisioning clusters, use Spack to manage build and runtime complexities | 21:25 |
| janders | oneswig: trandles: I don't have much hands-on with OHPC but my hope is to simplify things - using Bright Cluster Manager is cool, but creates a network of dependencies from hell and at times creates almost as many problems as it solves.. | 21:25 |
| trandles | *containerize | 21:25 |
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| oneswig | trandles: we've got some nodes running Fedora Atomic. There's basically no other way with those nodes. We are facing containerising BeeGFS OSS etc to create something hyperconverged | 21:28 |
| trandles | feels like a sane way to manage a cluster in my opinion | 21:28 |
| oneswig | I'd prefer to be all-in on one approach or the other. | 21:29 |
| oneswig | but I don't disagree with you. | 21:29 |
| trandles | looking at the tools available today, especially the cloud stuff for both hardware management and runtime portability, it seems like we can do a better job managing our HPC clusters | 21:30 |
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| trandles | or maybe I'm just jetlagged and tired | 21:30 |
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| oneswig | trandles: on a related note, there was some recent interest here in running OpenMPI jobs in Kubernetes. There's some prior work on this that passed our way. Ever seen this work? | 21:31 |
| trandles | we haven't looked at k8s for much more than deploying services | 21:31 |
| trandles | we have looked at lot at OpenMPI + linux namespaces | 21:31 |
| oneswig | I'm hoping to understand the capabilities - and limitations | 21:32 |
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| trandles | OpenMPI has a large amount of internal voodoo | 21:32 |
| oneswig | (especially if my talk goes through...) | 21:32 |
| oneswig | trandles: it's not small! | 21:32 |
| janders | oneswig: does your talk touch on RDMA in containers? | 21:32 |
| trandles | it plays games in the name of efficiency and those games break with certain namespace constraints | 21:32 |
| trandles | but we've run 1000+ node, 10000+ rank OpenMPI jobs using Charliecloud | 21:33 |
| oneswig | janders: We need that. We need to understand what's hackery-bodgery vs what's designed for this purpose | 21:33 |
| trandles | RDMA in containers is no different than RDMA on bare metal isn't it? | 21:33 |
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| janders | oneswig: +1 | 21:33 |
| oneswig | trandles: How does Charliecloud work with (eg) orted? Does that run on the host, outside the container? | 21:34 |
| trandles | depends on how everything is built | 21:34 |
| janders | trandles: last time I checked (which was few months back) there were some issues with running multiple RDMA enabled containers on one bare-metal node | 21:34 |
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| oneswig | trandles: I'm not sure how it works with the /dev objects that get opened for RDMA access | 21:34 |
| trandles | the easiest is building your resource manager with PMI support and no orted is required | 21:34 |
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| trandles | janders: probably depends on the container runtime | 21:35 |
| janders | oneswig: exactly... the /dev challenge.. | 21:35 |
| trandles | Charliecloud bind mounts /dev into your namespace | 21:35 |
| trandles | docker does the wrong thing for HPC (IMO) by creating it's own /dev entries | 21:35 |
| trandles | *its | 21:35 |
| oneswig | trandles: thanks. Good to know. I'm wondering how K8S + OpenMPI achieves this | 21:35 |
| oneswig | (ie, without slurm) | 21:35 |
| oneswig | trandles: is that the private devices thing? | 21:36 |
| trandles | we can launch using mpirun but you start to have OpenMPI version mismatch issues inside vs. outside | 21:36 |
| janders | trandles: which runtime is better than docker for RDMA in containers? | 21:36 |
| trandles | our position is, for the HPC use case, you want as little abstraction/isolation as possible | 21:37 |
| trandles | Shifter and Charliecloud both have full RDMA support | 21:37 |
| trandles | I assume Singularity does to, but I haven't looked | 21:37 |
| janders | trandles: great, thank you | 21:37 |
| trandles | at one point Singularity was playing games to pass things between the container and the bare metal, but Shifter and Charliecloud do not | 21:38 |
| oneswig | trandles: Can we pin you down to a date to talk this over in great depth? | 21:38 |
| trandles | oneswig: would like that, yes | 21:38 |
| janders | +1!!! | 21:39 |
| trandles | August 7 works | 21:39 |
| trandles | (no travel in August!!! :) ) | 21:39 |
| oneswig | Excellent - although I'll be unable to join you that day (holidays) | 21:40 |
| trandles | 21st works too | 21:40 |
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| oneswig | Perfect for me :-) | 21:41 |
| trandles | or I could do a separate WebEx for StackHPC ;) | 21:41 |
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| oneswig | trandles: we really need to get this installed in our OpenHPC environment before we can ask useful questions | 21:41 |
| martial__ | Aug 21, will publicize it | 21:42 |
| oneswig | On the Ansible+OpenHPC side, I'm hoping to gather a few interested sites together | 21:42 |
| martial__ | maybe we can do a video meetup | 21:43 |
| oneswig | janders: sounds like you're in? | 21:43 |
| janders | sounds great! | 21:43 |
| janders | I can organise a Google Meet if that is of interest | 21:43 |
| oneswig | martial__: could be good. Then Tim could end by singing the Charliecloud Song | 21:43 |
| martial__ | I can host a goto meeting too | 21:43 |
| martial__ | 101 users enough you think? | 21:44 |
| trandles | <damn, need to write a song> | 21:44 |
| martial__ | (hey isn't that your plan with Mike in a few minutes? :) ) | 21:44 |
| oneswig | martial__: trandles: jmlowe: if you see Evan Bollig later, can you gauge his interest in Ansible+OpenHPC? | 21:45 |
| jmlowe | Will do | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Thanks! | 21:46 |
| oneswig | OK, I'll get that going in the next few days. Good stuff. | 21:46 |
| oneswig | Lets move on, | 21:47 |
| oneswig | #topic Ceph days Berlin | 21:47 |
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| oneswig | Hooray, if you were worried that a 3-day OpenStack summit was too short, I have the solution for you | 21:47 |
| janders | excellent. I will aim to rock up early for this event :) | 21:48 |
| trandles | \o/ | 21:48 |
| oneswig | #link Ceph day Berlin, Monday 12 November https://ceph.com/cephdays/ceph-day-berlin/ | 21:48 |
| oneswig | janders: What better antidote to jet lag? | 21:48 |
| jmlowe | Side note: I'm starting to really like the cephfs manila ganesha nfs I have going now. | 21:48 |
| janders | ...and hopefully good RDMA support will arrive even before me... :) | 21:48 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: ganesha is the piece we've not used - our clients are given slightly more trust and access CephFS direct | 21:49 |
| janders | jmlowe: very interesting! can you tell us bit more about it? (use cases, performance, security) | 21:49 |
| oneswig | I'm noting your positive experience... | 21:49 |
| janders | sounds like another great topic for a presentation here? :) | 21:50 |
| oneswig | janders: +1 from me | 21:50 |
| martial__ | janders: so you are offering to do it, very well I will remember this ;) | 21:50 |
| jmlowe | security is ip address in exports, ebtables prevents eves dropping, random uuid for export path as a kind of shared secret | 21:51 |
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| janders | martial: unfortunately I don't have much to say on this topic for the time being | 21:51 |
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| jmlowe | performance wise in relatively limited testing I can max out my 10GigE | 21:51 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: that's better than I'd expected, nice job. | 21:52 |
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| oneswig | Ganesha is running locally on the hypervisor, right? What's the route between Ganesha and the client VM - is it that VIRTIO_SOCK thing? | 21:53 |
| jmlowe | I was pleasantly surprised, metadata on nvme backed pool | 21:53 |
| janders | jmlowe: maxing out 10GE - is that over multiple clients, or can a single client reach that? | 21:53 |
| jmlowe | 264 spinning rust bluestore osd's with mimic | 21:53 |
| jmlowe | single client | 21:53 |
| janders | impressive! | 21:53 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: I've been cursing mimic recently due to some weirdness with ceph-volume failing to deploy new OSDs | 21:54 |
| janders | +1 to oneswig's VIRTIO_SOCK question | 21:54 |
| jmlowe | !!!! I'm waiting on 13.2.1 so I can get a failed disk back in | 21:54 |
| openstack | jmlowe: Error: "!!!" is not a valid command. | 21:54 |
| oneswig | silly old openstack... | 21:55 |
| oneswig | OK, we should wrap up... | 21:55 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:55 |
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| oneswig | So what else is new? | 21:56 |
| janders | UFM6 is out, seems to work for SDN/IB | 21:56 |
| janders | I need to track down some dependency issues but it's most likely not UFM's fault | 21:56 |
| oneswig | I talked on Ceph RDMA with the team at CERN, and also MEERKAT in South Africa. There's plenty of interest in this, in the right places | 21:56 |
| janders | excellent to hear! | 21:57 |
| trandles | janders: I haven't forgotten about IB + SDN, I've just been too busy with travel | 21:57 |
| oneswig | janders: what changes did you need to apply for new UFM? | 21:57 |
| janders | oneswig: none. Drop-in replacement. | 21:57 |
| oneswig | phew | 21:57 |
| janders | but more detailed testing to follow | 21:57 |
| jmlowe | sysbench 16 threads random write written, MiB/s: 13560.71, read, MiB/s: 14416.96 | 21:58 |
| oneswig | That chain of services is long enough without being cranky along with it | 21:58 |
| janders | I think 6 has some resiliency enhancements | 21:58 |
| janders | though I don't think the uppercase/lowercase thing made it into UFM6 GA | 21:58 |
| janders | had some issues with uppercase GUIDs in the past, but that's probably not worth discussing here | 21:59 |
| oneswig | janders: thanks for the heads up on that, seems like we (luckily) dodged a howler on our setup | 21:59 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: > 14 GB/s? | 21:59 |
| janders | trandles: no worries, feel free to reach out any time | 21:59 |
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| jmlowe | there's some caching in there | 21:59 |
| janders | oneswig: our blade chassis only speak uppercase for MACs/GUIDs hence we hit this at full speed. It hurt :) | 22:00 |
| jmlowe | too short of a test to fill them | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Ah, thanks | 22:00 |
| jmlowe | 'sysbench --test=fileio --file-fsync-freq=0 --file-test-mode=rndrd --num-threads=16 run' | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Sorry y'all, we are at time | 22:00 |
| janders | Thank you all! Don't forget to cast your votes | 22:00 |
| oneswig | PEARC18 folks, have a good conference | 22:00 |
| janders | I will put in mine as soon as I get into the office | 22:00 |
| martial__ | thanks Stig | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 24 22:00:56 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-07-24-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-07-24-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| trandles | oneswig: thx... jmlowe see you soon ;) | 22:01 |
| oneswig | until next time! | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-07-24-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
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