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| zhiyuan | hi | 00:55 |
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| zhiyuan | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 1 01:02:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:02 |
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| zhiyuan | song has submitted a self-notification for tricircle PTL | 01:04 |
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| song_ | yes we will keep on work on tricircle. we hope more people can join it. | 01:05 |
| zhiyuan | song you mentioned you had prepared some BPs for the next cycle, share them in this meeting? | 01:06 |
| song_ | I plan some blueprints. to zhiyuan can you give us some plans most import need to do in the next release? | 01:06 |
| zhiyuan | song, what about you show your plan and we discuss the priority? | 01:08 |
| song_ | 1 make tricircle and trio2o work more close together. | 01:09 |
| song_ | 2 improvement the tricircle work with nove cell2 | 01:10 |
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| song_ | 3 add more test case and fix the unit test errors | 01:10 |
| song_ | 4 the new cross-neutron networking model which in now working by zhuangzhaung | 01:12 |
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| song_ | 5 driver based implementation of trunk which is working now by zhangchi | 01:13 |
| Yipei_ | sorry, network connection is poor | 01:13 |
| song_ | I just plan the above five blueprints. | 01:14 |
| Yipei_ | could please share the bp again? just miss the messages, sorry about that | 01:14 |
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| song_ | to Yipei_ are you in now? | 01:16 |
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| zhiyuan | 1 tricircle works with trio2o, 2 work with cellv2 3 improve test 4 new networking model 5 trunk driver | 01:17 |
| zhiyuan | 5 items | 01:17 |
| song_ | yes do you think we should add other more import blueprints? | 01:17 |
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| song_ | 1 tricircle works with trio2o, 2 work with cellv2 3 improve test 4 new networking model 5 trunk driver | 01:18 |
| yipei | zhuangzhuang has already share the bp to me | 01:18 |
| yipei | thanks, song | 01:19 |
| xuzhuang | A new member will join us, his name is xu shimin | 01:20 |
| zhiyuan | I think 3 is important. We'd better solve the smoke CI issue | 01:20 |
| xuzhuang | He is from our team | 01:20 |
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| song_ | to xuzhuang welcome! | 01:20 |
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| song_ | to zhiyuan yes i agree with this too. | 01:21 |
| song_ | so make this the first and the most import. | 01:22 |
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| zhiyuan | other BPs can proceed at the same time | 01:23 |
| zhiyuan | but without smoke test, we need to test offline everytime | 01:23 |
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| zhiyuan | another thing, we can try to migrate to zuul v3 | 01:24 |
| zhiyuan | it's possible zull v3 can help us fix smoke test more easily | 01:26 |
| song_ | last time somebody have said this in the openstack email. | 01:26 |
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| song_ | you mean we first do the migrate to zuul v3 and then fix smoke test error? | 01:27 |
| zhiyuan | if it's not hard, better to migrate to zuul v3 first | 01:27 |
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| zhiyuan | zuul v2 has some limitation | 01:28 |
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| song_ | to zhiyuan that is ok. is there someone want do it? if nobody i will do it. | 01:29 |
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| song_ | what is the noise? | 01:31 |
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| zhiyuan | maybe some robot | 01:32 |
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| song_ | ......... | 01:32 |
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| zhiyuan | wow, hard to chat | 01:34 |
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| zhiyuan | #endmeeting | 01:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 01:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 1 01:40:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2018/tricircle.2018-08-01-01.02.html | 01:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2018/tricircle.2018-08-01-01.02.txt | 01:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2018/tricircle.2018-08-01-01.02.log.html | 01:41 |
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| oneswig | hello | 11:01 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 11:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 1 11:02:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:02 |
| verdurin | Good afternoon. | 11:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:02 |
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| oneswig | #link agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_August_1st_2018 | 11:02 |
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| oneswig | I'm in the middle of an "for i in $(openstack baremetal node list..." way today | 11:03 |
| verdurin | oneswig: "openstack stack delete" - it's quicker in the long run | 11:04 |
| oneswig | yak shaving - stack is DELETE_FAILED | 11:04 |
| oneswig | But I take your point! | 11:04 |
| priteau | Good morning oneswig, verdurin | 11:05 |
| priteau | Sorry, afternoon now | 11:05 |
| verdurin | Hello. | 11:05 |
| oneswig | Greetings priteau | 11:05 |
| oneswig | Interesting meetup? | 11:05 |
| priteau | It made me want to try OpenShift :-) | 11:06 |
| oneswig | So what does it add over Kubernetes? | 11:06 |
| verdurin | Yes, it was good to see actual use cases and demos. | 11:06 |
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| priteau | oneswig: Main points were a clean object model on top of k8s, deep integration with CI/CD pipelines, and the k8s shipped with it is actually Red Hat's own hardened distribution | 11:08 |
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| verdurin | Yes, the object and event models, extra debugging and integrated monitoring/logging, proper workflows for handling builds | 11:10 |
| b1airo | o/ | 11:10 |
| oneswig | How did the scientific application work look? | 11:10 |
| oneswig | hi b1airo | 11:10 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 11:10 |
| verdurin | Hello b1airo | 11:10 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 11:10 |
| b1airo | hi oneswig ! | 11:10 |
| b1airo | hi verdurin , how's it going? | 11:10 |
| priteau | oneswig: There weren't much details about that, just that they're running XChem | 11:11 |
| verdurin | b1airo: not bad at all | 11:12 |
| verdurin | oneswig: I asked about their use of JupyterHub and he didn't have much more detail. Might be following up with them anyway. | 11:12 |
| oneswig | Squonk's the future, I heard :-) | 11:12 |
| verdurin | Ugh - Gradle. | 11:13 |
| verdurin | oneswig: looking at the HPCAC CFP you sent - I couldn't see a closing date? | 11:13 |
| oneswig | I have not heard what it is. I had an email from the organiser from HPCAC (Cydney), looking for subjects and speakers | 11:14 |
| b1airo | ah yes, reminds me i haven't replied to her yet... | 11:14 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: she mentioned you're in NZ | 11:15 |
| martial_ | good morning | 11:16 |
| oneswig | Hey martial_ | 11:16 |
| oneswig | #chair martial_ | 11:16 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial_ oneswig | 11:16 |
| verdurin | Hello | 11:16 |
| * b1airo waves at martial_ | 11:16 | |
| b1airo | oneswig: forgive me... Squonk? | 11:17 |
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| martial_ | (did I interrupt something?) | 11:19 |
| oneswig | https://squonk.it/ - saw it go by yesterday... from a meetup priteau and verdurin went to | 11:20 |
| b1airo | huh, so Jupyter for computational chemists? | 11:23 |
| martial_ | looking cool | 11:23 |
| martial_ | although yes, chemistry, so not too sure how to use it | 11:24 |
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| oneswig | sorry, got distracted. | 11:25 |
| martial_ | sharing with Bob, it was his former field, he might have some fun | 11:26 |
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| oneswig | verdurin: will you be at Ceph Days Berlin? | 11:28 |
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| verdurin | oneswig: if I go to the Summit, which I probably will, then yes. Shame about the clash with SC. | 11:29 |
| oneswig | indeed. | 11:30 |
| verdurin | Did anyone go to the OpenHPC workshop mentioned recently? | 11:31 |
| martial_ | not me, was at PEARC18 last week (although had to leave early) | 11:32 |
| oneswig | It was in Santa Clara, alas I did not | 11:32 |
| oneswig | I've not heard from the presenter from Linaro about how it went | 11:32 |
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| oneswig | I think even he was presenting remotely | 11:33 |
| martial_ | lesson learned from PEARC: trying to do tutorials that need access to a remote GPU or Jupyter with bad internet ... not so cool | 11:33 |
| oneswig | martial_: what happened? | 11:34 |
| martial_ | not much, the internet was bad at the hotel of the conference | 11:34 |
| martial_ | and as such running the tutorials was near impossible | 11:34 |
| martial_ | (a lot of frustrated people through day 1) | 11:35 |
| oneswig | ouch, feel your pain | 11:37 |
| b1airo | shame | 11:37 |
| martial_ | it was not cool indeed | 11:38 |
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| martial_ | but our panel on "Transforming Scientific Computing with Cloud Technologies" went well | 11:38 |
| martial_ | we used the Etherpad just like we did for the Summit in Vancouver | 11:39 |
| oneswig | Who attends PEARC? | 11:39 |
| oneswig | It's an NSF conference isn't it? | 11:39 |
| martial_ | ACM | 11:39 |
| b1airo | couple of NeSI management went i think | 11:40 |
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| martial_ | by funding from NSF | 11:40 |
| martial_ | it used to be Xseed conference I think | 11:40 |
| b1airo | what was maturity of the conversation like martial_ ? | 11:40 |
| martial_ | turned into a small SC, recognize a lot of the same people | 11:40 |
| martial_ | it was good | 11:40 |
| martial_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pearc18-panel | 11:40 |
| martial_ | the etherpad used ^ | 11:41 |
| martial_ | it was little focused on pure OpenStack, but it was prominent in conversation | 11:41 |
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| martial_ | that and containers root | 11:42 |
| martial_ | and for some reason a person (who did not stop by after) wanted to talk kubernetes a lot | 11:42 |
| martial_ | and I was the only person with some use cases of the tech | 11:43 |
| b1airo | time to shine :-) | 11:44 |
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| martial_ | OpenStack is still very popular in HPC and our panelists were able to give many HPC related use cases | 11:44 |
| martial_ | we mentioned the Barcelona talk from the Spartan team as well | 11:44 |
| martial_ | Etherpad is the format I want to use for SC18 | 11:46 |
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| oneswig | interesting interlude | 11:47 |
| martial_ | get in ... ad ... get out ... okay | 11:47 |
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| martial_ | wonder if those are malware of cryptominers | 11:48 |
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| priteau | It's a spam campaign, there are mailing list post on openstack-dev | 11:49 |
| oneswig | martial_: should we produce some input for the PTG session? | 11:49 |
| martial_ | we ought to, I have not yet heard when our session will be | 11:49 |
| martial_ | but I am scheduled to go | 11:49 |
| oneswig | something to discuss also in the US timezone. | 11:49 |
| oneswig | Right now, I would love to ask if anyone at the PTG ever managed to successfully delete a heat stack with bare metal compute in it :-( | 11:50 |
| oneswig | Seems to be no improvement in Queens | 11:50 |
| priteau | martial_: You didn't see the PTG schedule? | 11:51 |
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| martial_ | we ought to set up an etherpad and use the scientific_wg IRC channel during the PTG | 11:51 |
| priteau | Scientific SIG is Monday: https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_schedule | 11:51 |
| martial_ | pierre: thanks | 11:52 |
| oneswig | In terms of project activity - priteau, what about an update on preemptibles, reservations and all? | 11:52 |
| priteau | oneswig: I do it all the time... | 11:52 |
| priteau | (the bare-metal Heat stack deletes) | 11:52 |
| oneswig | would love to wipe this one out, with extreme prejudice... | 11:53 |
| priteau | Regarding pre-emptibles: we're discussing in the Blazar project how we could fairly easily implement preemptible instances, by 1) allowing instances to be launched on nodes managed by Blazar but currently unreserved 2) terminating anything that is running at the start of a reservation | 11:53 |
| priteau | We're going to work on a spec, there's also a talk in Berlin including discussion of this topic | 11:54 |
| priteau | It could work independently of any Nova reaper implementation | 11:54 |
| martial_ | maybe we can make the PTG the topic of next week's meeting | 11:54 |
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| martial_ | stig: got an etherpad started? | 11:54 |
| oneswig | martial_: sorry, no - and I'm on vacation for the next two weeks | 11:55 |
| priteau | That's the talk in question: https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/vote-for-speakers/#/22073 | 11:55 |
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| oneswig | somehow we are out of time! | 11:58 |
| oneswig | priteau: that talk looks good, fingers crossed for them | 11:59 |
| b1airo | priteau: sounds like the Blazar functionality could be complementary to Nova Reaper | 11:59 |
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| martial_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denverptg2018 | 11:59 |
| martial_ | here started one | 11:59 |
| oneswig | thanks martial_ - let's try to gather ideas there | 11:59 |
| oneswig | Is it a half-day? | 12:00 |
| priteau | b1airo: yes, I hope the reaper makes progress at the next PTG | 12:00 |
| * b1airo crosses fingers | 12:00 | |
| oneswig | It's a compelling capability, it really should do | 12:00 |
| oneswig | OK, we should finish. Thanks all - see you in a few weeks | 12:01 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 12:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 1 12:01:11 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-08-01-11.02.html | 12:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-08-01-11.02.txt | 12:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-08-01-11.02.log.html | 12:01 |
| martial_ | full day it seems | 12:01 |
| verdurin | Bye. | 12:01 |
| b1airo | cheers all | 12:01 |
| martial_ | bye :) | 12:01 |
| priteau | Enjoy the sunshine oneswig! | 12:01 |
| oneswig | full day - we'll need a good set of material for that | 12:01 |
| oneswig | thanks priteau, looks like it'll be nice and toasty | 12:02 |
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| dystopia_ | I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ | 13:44 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 1 16:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | courtesy ping jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne | 16:01 |
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| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
| xyang | hi | 16:01 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:01 |
| walshh_ | hi | 16:01 |
| geguileo | rofl did he just get kicked for Spamming the channel? | 16:01 |
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| e0ne | :) | 16:02 |
| tbarron | happened to me last week when I did courtesy ping for manila mtg | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | I have leaves suppressed. Who got kicked? | 16:02 |
| tommylikehu | me | 16:02 |
| erlon | hey | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Jay apparently. :) | 16:02 |
| abishop | our fearless PTL | 16:02 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: "[19:01:07] jungleboyj (sid96736@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fipmcflaaneoxfgc) left IRC. (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))" | 16:02 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: jungleboyj | 16:02 |
| tbarron | and I warned jungleboyj then that Sigyn doesn't like the courtesy ping | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Got a message he's trying to get back on. | 16:03 |
| jaypipes | I'll be your Hucklejay. | 16:03 |
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| erlon | jungleboyj, have you refreshed the ping list? | 16:03 |
| tbarron | hah | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Jay substitution! | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-rocky-meeting-agendas Agenda | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | Guess we can't change topics or anything, but we can at least get the conversation going. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | Looks like we have some good topics added so far. | 16:06 |
| e0ne | +1 | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Please add your name to the attendee list if you plan on being there. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | If you can't attend in person but hope to do so remotely, I think we will probably be able to stream again. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Just add your name and note (remote) next to it or something. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | And if there is a particular topic you want to be a part of remotely, put that under the topic and we can try to ping you before we start talking about it. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Assuming we don't all get kicked off of IRC by then. :) | 16:08 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: how about phone call if the remote attendee is sleeping | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | Good list of attendees. I'm glad to see that. | 16:10 |
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| jsbryant | Hi all, I am temporarily back | 16:10 |
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| jsbryant | I am sure you are all laughing at me. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Who are you? :P | 16:10 |
| * jsbryant is jungleboyj | 16:11 | |
| e0ne | :) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | How do we know it's really you? | 16:11 |
| * jsbryant is also feeling like a moron | 16:11 | |
| tommylikehu | :) | 16:11 |
| abishop | jsbryant: for the record, yes, we were :-) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | jsbryant: I just went over the PTG etherpad. | 16:11 |
| jsbryant | I have sent an e-mail asking they fix my other user name. Hopefully it is fixed so that I can end the meeting at the end. | 16:11 |
| jsbryant | Awesome. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | I've been told after 30 minutes someone else can do it. | 16:12 |
| ilbelkyr | jsbryant: check the auto-reply, in that case :) | 16:12 |
| ilbelkyr | or, actually | 16:12 |
| jsbryant | So, moving on. | 16:13 |
| jsbryant | Any thoughts on the PTG etherpad? | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I think it looks good. :) | 16:13 |
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| jsbryant | Agreed. I have added some topics in there. | 16:14 |
| jsbryant | We are up to 12 people which is good. | 16:14 |
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| jsbryant | I am probably not going to be able to be there until mid morning Monday. | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | jsbryant: link? | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | etherpad that is | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: This one? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: tahnks | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | thanks | 16:16 |
| jsbryant | smcginnis, Thanks | 16:16 |
| jsbryant | Anyone have other topics to propose now? | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | And I am back! | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Announcements | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | ilbelkyr: Thank you, thank you , thank you! | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. so moving on since it doesn't seem others have more to say now. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Rocky Schedule ... | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | We have passed feature freeze. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | We need to be getting bug fixes merged now. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | I know there are a number out there that I need to review. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Going to try to make more time for that today. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | We will be cutting RC-1 next week. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Should shoot for Wednesday 8/8 . | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That make sense? | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Yep, good plan. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Excellent. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | We have spun a new python-cinderclient as we had a bug that broke Horizon and the volume_transfer functions. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587601/ | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | So, that is the news there. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | As far as releases are concerned. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | One last announcement. So, the PTL election has happend. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Or nomination have closed and I was the only one nominated so I guess you don't mind me continuing as PTL. | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | I demand a recount! | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Ha, you want to take back over? | 16:24 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:24 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: thank you for serving this role! | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: You are welcome. Glad to help out. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | So, I will say thanks for the continued vote of confidence and I hope the Stein cycle is a good one. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | I think that is all we have for announcements. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Rocky Priorities Review | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | So, we have done a pretty good job getting through the priorities this release. | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | One thing I would like some eyes on is trying to get the new support matrix format in: | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580757/ | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | I have addressed erlon s comments. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | If others could take a look it would be good to get this in. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | erlon are you here? | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | Is anyone here? | 16:28 |
| e0ne | no | 16:28 |
| tommylikehu | :) | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, the one comment that erlon had was that it would be nice to have the support as a column and the drivers as rows. | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | This wasn't really the way that the tool was designed to be used. I could, however, swap the design to go this direction. | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thoughts? | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Would be a complete rework. Basically the driver would be the function and then the Support would be listed under each one. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | I could try to pound that out though if that is what people would like. | 16:31 |
| * jungleboyj worked so hard to get here and now I am so lonely .... | 16:31 | |
| jungleboyj | I will follow up with erlon and smcginnis on that question. | 16:33 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: maybe everybody is reviewing your patch now | 16:33 |
| tommylikehu | e0ne: +1 | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:33 |
| erlon | 'yep | 16:33 |
| erlon | :) | 16:33 |
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| erlon | Ill check that out again | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Take a look at the review and let me know what you all think. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Check-in on HA development. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: I am going to take a look at the latest documentation patch. | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | Still want to get that in. | 16:36 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, I imagined that that could not even be possible, given the library was designed to do the other way, but would be a nice to have if not cumbersome | 16:36 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: thanks | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | If we could get other cores looking at the patch it would be good: | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/571242 | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: hemna e0ne tommylikehu ^^^ | 16:36 |
| tommylikehu | jungleboyj:yeah! | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | Sorry, distraction. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: I can give that is try if that is what people would like. | 16:37 |
| e0ne | I'll review it later tonight | 16:37 |
| erlon | jungleboyj, nice, thanks, give us a ping so we can look at the rendered results | 16:38 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon: Will do. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, so I think that is all I had on that stuff. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | We have one other topic that no one claimed. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Barbican with Live Migration Issue: | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1784873 | 16:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784873 in Cinder "Barbican with Live Migration issue" [Undecided,New] | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Was this you? | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | No, eharney ? | 16:39 |
| walshh_ | Just wondering if anyone knows how to configure this in a multinode environment | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | walshh_: Ah, this was you? | 16:40 |
| walshh_ | It was me, on behalf of a colleague | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Looking. | 16:40 |
| walshh_ | Lots of detail in the launchpad | 16:40 |
| walshh_ | just wondering is it configurable | 16:41 |
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| walshh_ | I saw in the code that encryption is not supported for multiattach | 16:41 |
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| walshh_ | wondering if the same is true for Live Migration? | 16:41 |
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| jungleboyj | Hmmm, may be that no one has tried it. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | I think that eharney knows more about this area. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | It could be unsupported too, but I've never tried that and don't know enough about the encryption constraints. | 16:43 |
| walshh_ | any insights appreciated | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Live migration ends up briefly being like multiattach I think, so the same issues probably do apply. | 16:44 |
| walshh_ | that is what set off alarm bells | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | All the computes have access to the secret store, right? | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | We need more encryption expertise. | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | Should we add this to the PTG discussion so it isn't lost? | 16:46 |
| e0ne | +1 | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | See if we can make more progress with the smarter minds all together? | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Might be good. Even if it's a short conversation with all of us scratching our heads, maybe it will prompt someone to dig into that area. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | walshh_: Can you add it to the therpad? | 16:47 |
| walshh_ | sure | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | *etherpad | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | walshh_: Thank you! | 16:47 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok. So I think that is all we have for today. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Any other topics for today? | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | #chair jungleboyj | 16:48 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jungleboyj | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | Desperate plea for more reviewers. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Especially as we are moving into RC we really need more help reviewing please. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, more silence. :-( | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Ok ... Anything else we can discuss today? | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | I will take that as a no. Sorry for the craziness at the beginning of the meeting. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you for your patience. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | No more pinging for me. So, please add a reminder to your calendars for the meeting. | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks all! | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:52 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 1 16:52:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-01-16.00.html | 16:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-01-16.00.txt | 16:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-01-16.00.log.html | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | *phew* That worked. | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:52 |
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| fungi | SotK: diablo_rojo_phon: anybody else... who's around for a storyboard meeting? | 19:01 |
| * SotK is around | 19:01 | |
| fungi | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 1 19:01:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:01 |
| fungi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Meeting Agenda | 19:02 |
| fungi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/ Logs from past meetings | 19:02 |
| fungi | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| fungi | [i notice meetbot seems to have lost the ability to change channel topics... will look into that later] | 19:03 |
| fungi | there's a bullet on the agenda with an announcement for the api sig migration | 19:03 |
| fungi | i think that's probably from the last meeting | 19:03 |
| fungi | but in case it's not, they're using sb now | 19:04 |
| SotK | nice! (I suspect it is too) | 19:04 |
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| fungi | granted their project and project-group are getting renamed on friday | 19:04 |
| fungi | they had to start using "wg" instead of "sig" on storyboard.openstack.org waiting for an opportunity to rename their repository on review.openstack.org | 19:05 |
| fungi | we've done project renames in sb before and that's worked fine. this will be the first project-group rename but glancing at the db schema it should just be an update to the name column for the appropriate row in the project_groups table | 19:06 |
| fungi | any other announcements? | 19:06 |
| SotK | I don't have any | 19:06 |
| fungi | #topic Migration Updates | 19:07 |
| fungi | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/45 Launchpad to StoryBoard Migration | 19:07 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon has mostly driven this, and with her travelling i expect it's on hold for the moment | 19:08 |
| fungi | or at least i don't have any updates (no idea if she does) | 19:08 |
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| fungi | so we can probably move on with the rest of the agenda | 19:08 |
| fungi | #topic In Progress Work | 19:09 |
| fungi | we have a couple of standing entries here, i suppose | 19:09 |
| fungi | one for the list of needs octavia raised a while back and then the stories tagged as "blocking migration" | 19:10 |
| fungi | also a link to a docs change which i'm going to approve now | 19:10 |
| SotK | thanks :) | 19:10 |
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| fungi | i saw fatema_ has been hacking on some changes | 19:12 |
| fungi | (which i haven't had time to review while on vacation for the past couple weeks) | 19:12 |
| SotK | yeah, I also noticed those and will try to find some time to review them soon | 19:13 |
| SotK | I also intend to finally get round to fixing the "get project by name" stuff too | 19:13 |
| fungi | oh, thanks! i had absolutely _no_ luck figuring out what was going wrong with the html escape plumbing that through | 19:14 |
| fungi | i'll get someone to approve your ssh key change (i assume that's preventing you from reproducing and viewing logs locally on sb-dev.o.o) | 19:15 |
| SotK | once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587971/ makes it onto storyboard-dev I'll have a play around there | 19:15 |
| SotK | snappish | 19:15 |
| fungi | as i suspected! | 19:15 |
| fungi | looks like you have quite a bit up worth reviewing for storyboard-dev | 19:16 |
| fungi | and stephenfin has a couple there as well from last week | 19:16 |
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| SotK | those two are actually quite old, it'd be good to get them merged | 19:17 |
| fungi | oh, i see those are from october and you rebased/updated them, right | 19:17 |
| fungi | thanks | 19:17 |
| fungi | i agree | 19:17 |
| SotK | a bunch of my webclient patches need re-ordering and/or more work though | 19:18 |
| SotK | I'm hopeful of having the time and energy to do that in the near future | 19:18 |
| fungi | no worries, take your time | 19:19 |
| fungi | anything else worth covering under in progress work? | 19:19 |
| SotK | not that I know of at the moment | 19:20 |
| fungi | #topic Wiki Overhaul | 19:20 |
| fungi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard a very nice-looking wiki page | 19:20 |
| fungi | not sure if this already got covered last meeting | 19:20 |
| SotK | yeah, diablo_rojo_phon did a good job | 19:21 |
| SotK | I think I still owe an updated schema diagram | 19:21 |
| fungi | cool. any other feedback on the wiki page? | 19:22 |
| fungi | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
| fungi | some of us got some feedback from a few of the starlingx community who have recently started using storyboard for their task and defect tracking | 19:23 |
| SotK | oh cool, how're they finding it? | 19:24 |
| fungi | one big thing they miss, which we hear a lot, is freeform file attachments | 19:24 |
| fungi | we know that's something we want to get working anyway | 19:24 |
| fungi | one interesting request i haven't heard before is an export story option in the webclient for archival and reporting purposes | 19:25 |
| fungi | i suggested they could dump story data via the api, but are welcome to try hacking on that addition if it's really something they want to see | 19:26 |
| SotK | I'm starting to think we're going to need a solution to the file attachments thing sooner rather than later | 19:26 |
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| SotK | and yeah, my suggestion would've been to write a script to get things from the API, but I'm also not against a convenient button in the UI if someone wants to make one | 19:26 |
| fungi | yeah, i wonder if we could tempt some of the zuul team since they've just recently (in the past couple weeks) resurrected efforts to stash their logging in object stores. they might have a fresh view on how we could leverage something similar for story attachments | 19:27 |
| fungi | and i know we've (from a zuul perspective) struggled a little with things in private stories for embargoed vulnerability reports using preformatted text in comments as a stand-in for an attachment feature | 19:28 |
| fungi | in that case it worked, but some actual way to link to an attachment store would have been far easeir | 19:29 |
| SotK | hm, private stories is certainly a feature that our other recommendations (just host it somewhere else) haven't really considered | 19:29 |
| fungi | well, it could still work. for example if the object store is an openstack swift service running somewhere, just don't allow public indexing and use lengthy randomized object names | 19:31 |
| SotK | oh yes, I meant our current workaround suggestions of paste.o.o or wherever | 19:31 |
| fungi | idea being, unless someone is given the url to the attachment, they won't be able to find it, so that means they're either someone who has/had access to the story where it was linked or the information was leaked to them by someone | 19:31 |
| fungi | yep | 19:32 |
| SotK | yep, I think it'll be useful to talk with the zuul folk working on that to see how we can do something similar | 19:32 |
| fungi | services with indexes or guessable urls are a no-go for private data | 19:32 |
| notmyname | do swift's tempurls help with this? | 19:33 |
| fungi | notmyname: likely, i just haven't investigated our options from the perspective of this feature work yet | 19:33 |
| notmyname | ok. happy to talk about it with you whenever you need | 19:34 |
| fungi | i don't know if tempurls are a long-lived/indefinite construct (the name would imply otherwise)? | 19:34 |
| clarkb | even ignoring the privacy concerns for private stories we probably don't want to make the objects too easily distributed without storyboard simply to avoid spam | 19:34 |
| notmyname | they are time-limited and for a particular method (and now, a particular IP) | 19:34 |
| fungi | notmyname: ahh, then probably not the way we'd need to engineer that bit | 19:35 |
| fungi | unless maybe storyboard got unique tempurls per client request to hand out | 19:36 |
| fungi | but maybe that's the way around clarkb's concern | 19:36 |
| notmyname | fungi: eg you could put the sensitive stuff in a non-public container. when showing a page with sensitive context, you generate the url and use that link. that would prevent sharing the links anywhere | 19:36 |
| notmyname | tempurls can be generated offline with no connection to the cluster. they are hmacs based on the request to be made | 19:37 |
| clarkb | ya we have/had support for that in zuul | 19:37 |
| clarkb | it was how the first pass at logs in swift worked | 19:37 |
| notmyname | (it's one of my favorite features in swift) | 19:37 |
| clarkb | (we were using them for writes in that case but similar in concept I think) | 19:37 |
| fungi | i'm honestly less concerned about people redistributing access to private embargoed attachments as long as the urls can be made basically impossible to guess | 19:37 |
| fungi | but clarkb raises a great point that if we give people an easy way to upload files somewhere that anybody can directly download (regardless of whether it's public information) that is an invitation for abuse (warez and so on) | 19:38 |
| fungi | so maybe a per-request token handed out by sb makes that harder to misuse | 19:39 |
| fungi | on the other hand, it might break things like right-click, copy url, paste to wget command line in my terminal | 19:39 |
| notmyname | whoever is running the cluster could install middleware to scan object writes for malware. that's a bit outside of the scope of this, I think, because you're not running the cluster | 19:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: you could probably have storyboard host the urls then redirect to the actual tempurl location | 19:40 |
| fungi | sure, less concerned about malware and more about people who like to find places to redistribute copyrighted or illicit material | 19:40 |
| clarkb | which is probably sufficient for chasing away most abusers | 19:40 |
| fungi | that remnids me, we probably also want to see about implementing that same directive we got gerrit to add which instructs search engines not to follow links when indexing content | 19:42 |
| SotK | yeah, I've been envisioning an API endpoint in storyboard which handles all the interaction with the store mostly invisibly to the client | 19:42 |
| fungi | so that storyboard installs don't present an attractive target for linkspammers | 19:42 |
| fungi | granted that does nothing to deter the phone scam spammers on our wiki (thanking $deity that crowd hasn't found gerrit) | 19:43 |
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| fungi | "nofollow" i guess? if it's that, we can set it in robots.txt | 19:46 |
| fungi | i'm not actually finding what it was we had gerrit add | 19:48 |
| fungi | but i'll dig it up later | 19:48 |
| SotK | I think that'll do it, but I'm far from an expert | 19:48 |
| fungi | okay, anybody have anything else for open discussion? if not i'll go ahead and close out the meeting | 19:49 |
| SotK | I don't have anything | 19:49 |
| fungi | okay, well thanks everybody! this was helpful for me to get caught up | 19:50 |
| fungi | #endmeeting | 19:50 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 1 19:50:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-08-01-19.01.html | 19:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-08-01-19.01.txt | 19:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-08-01-19.01.log.html | 19:50 |
| fungi | now to look into why meetbot lost the ability to change channel topics | 19:50 |
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