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mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 11:02 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 11:02 |
mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 11:03 |
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mugsie | #endmeeting | 11:17 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 11:17 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 11:17:28 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:17 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-08-08-11.02.html | 11:17 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-08-08-11.02.txt | 11:17 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-08-08-11.02.log.html | 11:17 |
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jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 8 16:02:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:02 | |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:02 |
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* jungleboyj started the meeting in the wrong room. That isn't a good start. | 16:03 | |
xyang | hi | 16:03 |
xyang | I was wondering about that :) | 16:03 |
smcginnis | Hah | 16:04 |
jungleboyj | But if I can't ping, how many people will show up? | 16:04 |
tbarron | hi | 16:04 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: ? | 16:04 |
smcginnis | What? | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | Well, I guess I will get started and see if anyone else shows up. | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | Oh, you are here. Sorry, I missed that. | 16:05 |
jungleboyj | Ok, so, weekly reminder to add topics to the PTG Planning Etherpad. | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Got TSP for the PTG so he will be there which is good. | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | #announcements | 16:07 |
jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:07 |
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jungleboyj | I will be cutting RC-1 today. Doesn't look like there is really anything important pending. | 16:07 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: You concur? | 16:07 |
smcginnis | jungleboyj: I'll take a quick look through, but I think we're probably as good as were going to get. | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | Ok, that was what I thought as well. | 16:08 |
jungleboyj | I think that is all I had for announcements. | 16:09 |
jungleboyj | #topic Rocky Priorities | 16:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Rocky Priorities (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:09 | |
jungleboyj | Nothing really to discuss here. | 16:09 |
jungleboyj | I feel good about the progress we made towards our goals though. | 16:10 |
smcginnis | jungleboyj: Did all of the unsupported driver patches make it through other than for fczm? | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | I am working on putting together cycle highlights to go into releases. | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: I think all the other ones did. | 16:10 |
smcginnis | OK, good. | 16:10 |
jungleboyj | Yes, I just looked. | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | They all made it. | 16:11 |
jungleboyj | So, now I will work on getting things transitioned to Stein development. | 16:12 |
smcginnis | We might still need to do something about this, but I can't repro it yet - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1786054 | 16:12 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1786054 in Cinder "Volume create schema validation not allowing extra params prior to enforcing microversion" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Sean McGinnis (sean-mcginnis) | 16:12 |
smcginnis | I added unit tests trying to reproduce the issue, but they pass as expected. | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | Hmmm, interesting. | 16:14 |
smcginnis | That can be an RC2 though if it has to be. | 16:14 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. Sounds good. Don't want to miss RC deadline after missing M-3. | 16:15 |
smcginnis | Yep. :) | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | Anything else? | 16:15 |
jungleboyj | As far as Rocky is concerned? | 16:16 |
jungleboyj | Ok ... | 16:16 |
smcginnis | Nothing from me so far. | 16:16 |
jungleboyj | #topic HA Check in | 16:16 |
*** openstack changes topic to "HA Check in (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:16 | |
jungleboyj | We got the devref in place. Thank you to all who were able to help with that. | 16:17 |
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jungleboyj | That was all I had there. | 16:18 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: So, Phyton 3 goal for Stein. | 16:18 |
jungleboyj | #Topic Python 3 Goal for Stein | 16:18 |
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smcginnis | That's one of the accepted goals for the stein cycle. | 16:20 |
smcginnis | So all things should run py3 unless they are explicitly testing py2. | 16:20 |
smcginnis | But one of the big things that came up with this is third party CI. | 16:21 |
smcginnis | We run py3 jobs in gate, but I believe most third party CI are still running with python 2. | 16:21 |
jungleboyj | I would assume that is the case. | 16:21 |
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smcginnis | Everyone should switch over to running py3 and we should track that status in the support matrix or somewhere that end consumers can reference to determine whether their backend of choice is known to work with py3 or not. | 16:22 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: The support matrix would be a good place to do that. | 16:22 |
smcginnis | Right now it's just highly recommended, but eventually we will want to drop py2 support and will be more critical. | 16:23 |
smcginnis | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/python3-first.html Py3 goal | 16:24 |
smcginnis | More details about the overall goal there. ^ | 16:24 |
jungleboyj | Good. | 16:26 |
smcginnis | I guess if there aren't any questions or concerns, that's all I have on that. | 16:26 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Sounds good. Know what Nova is planning to do for 3rd Party CI? | 16:26 |
smcginnis | Not sure what they have now. | 16:26 |
jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:27 |
smcginnis | But I believe tbarron and I were in agreement on this approach between cinder and manila at least. | 16:27 |
jungleboyj | That is good. | 16:27 |
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jungleboyj | Ok. I think that is all we had on the agenda then. | 16:28 |
tbarron | ack | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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jungleboyj | tbarron: Thanks. | 16:28 |
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jungleboyj | tbarron: Manila is on board? | 16:28 |
jungleboyj | tbarron: Also, have you done anything more with Storyboard? | 16:29 |
tbarron | no | 16:29 |
tbarron | yes, on board | 16:29 |
tbarron | no more on storyboard | 16:29 |
smcginnis | :) | 16:30 |
jungleboyj | Ok, that was what I had expected. | 16:30 |
tbarron | if they get attachment support then maybe we'll try to move ahead in the new cycle | 16:30 |
jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:30 |
jungleboyj | Well, is there anything else? | 16:31 |
smcginnis | Nothing from me. | 16:31 |
jungleboyj | I think I may send an ML e-mail after this reminding people that I cannot ping anymore and that if they want to remember the meeting they need to put it on their calendar. | 16:32 |
smcginnis | ++ | 16:32 |
jungleboyj | Also think I will add a discussion of Core participation at the PTG. | 16:32 |
smcginnis | +++ | 16:32 |
jungleboyj | It is getting worse, not better. | 16:32 |
smcginnis | I'm hoping at least part of it is just late summer vacations. | 16:33 |
* jungleboyj pictures me as the captain on the bridge of the Titanic as the water is breaking the windows | 16:33 | |
jungleboyj | https://gph.is/28WSPpN | 16:34 |
smcginnis | Better start growing the beard. | 16:34 |
jungleboyj | Ha! I can't pull that off. :-) | 16:34 |
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jungleboyj | Ok. So, lets call it a meeting. Hopefully there will be more activity again as we get closer to the PTG. | 16:35 |
jungleboyj | Please, everyone, work on testing the RC once I cut it. | 16:35 |
jungleboyj | Hope we can avoid an RC-2, but better to get things fixed than not. | 16:36 |
smcginnis | Yeah, I don't think we've ever been able to avoid at least one more after RC1, so not the end of the world. But hopefully nothing critical. | 16:36 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:36 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: Is there anything else I need to do other than cut the RC? I am guessing the answer is in your last Release e-mail. | 16:37 |
smcginnis | That should be it. | 16:38 |
jungleboyj | Good. | 16:38 |
smcginnis | I think we want to also release cinder-tempest-plugin. | 16:38 |
jungleboyj | Ok. I can do that as well. | 16:38 |
smcginnis | Onward to stein then. | 16:38 |
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* jungleboyj is going to need a Stein | 16:38 | |
smcginnis | Can remove the procedural -2's from the new drivers too. | 16:39 |
smcginnis | Hah | 16:39 |
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jungleboyj | smcginnis: Will do. | 16:39 |
jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 16:40:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-08-16.02.html | 16:40 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-08-16.02.txt | 16:40 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-08-08-16.02.log.html | 16:40 |
smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:40 |
jungleboyj | Thank you. | 16:40 |
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diablo_rojo | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:05 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 8 19:05:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:05 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:05 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:05 |
diablo_rojo | Hello people :) | 19:06 |
diablo_rojo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 19:06 |
diablo_rojo | For those that want to peruse :) | 19:06 |
diablo_rojo | Anywho let's do this thing. | 19:07 |
diablo_rojo | So! | 19:07 |
SotK | o/ | 19:07 |
diablo_rojo | #topic Announcements | 19:07 |
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diablo_rojo | I think the human readable urls qualifies as an annoucement | 19:07 |
diablo_rojo | No new migrations lately though | 19:08 |
SotK | I think so too | 19:08 |
diablo_rojo | Any other annoucements from anyone? | 19:08 |
SotK | I plan to look at getting the same feature done for project groups and then will send an announcement/update email or something | 19:08 |
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diablo_rojo | SotK, awesome :) | 19:08 |
fungi | oh, right | 19:09 |
fungi | heh | 19:09 |
fungi | sorry, juggling too many things at once | 19:09 |
diablo_rojo | I saw you chatting with mordred about that last night/this morning | 19:09 |
diablo_rojo | fungi, you and me both sir :) | 19:09 |
* mordred said some words at some point | 19:09 | |
mordred | the human readable urls are SO AMAZING | 19:09 |
diablo_rojo | SotK, happy to review those when you get them out | 19:10 |
diablo_rojo | Any other announcements? | 19:10 |
diablo_rojo | Or shall we move on to migration updates? | 19:10 |
SotK | I don't have any | 19:11 |
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diablo_rojo | #topic Migration Updates | 19:11 |
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diablo_rojo | So! Not a ton to report- haven't heard back about if Keystone is interested after I did their test migration a while back. | 19:11 |
diablo_rojo | No new projects have asked me to run test migrations in a little bit. | 19:12 |
diablo_rojo | Kinda been focusing more on docs + now fixing up other issues people have had rather than driving migrations. | 19:12 |
SotK | I somewhat worry that we're going to need to implement the attachments thing before some folk will migrate | 19:13 |
diablo_rojo | I think I reran charms (it had failed a long time ago and now succeeded) and pinged jamespage about it but never got a response. | 19:13 |
diablo_rojo | SotK, yeah I think thats going to be the case for at least Cinder and Manila | 19:13 |
diablo_rojo | So once I clean up a few more of the smaller Octavia concerns (topic for the later) I can try to start looking into that. | 19:14 |
diablo_rojo | I imagine that will require a lot of planning discussion though. | 19:14 |
diablo_rojo | Could do it at the ptg... | 19:14 |
diablo_rojo | but you wont be there. | 19:14 |
diablo_rojo | We can do like we did for YVR and hangout you in | 19:14 |
SotK | yeah that could work | 19:14 |
diablo_rojo | Should probably start a planning etherpad at some point. | 19:15 |
diablo_rojo | SotK, I know you said something about a holiday, but which day would work best for you? | 19:15 |
diablo_rojo | I can't do Monday, but the whole rest of the week I can probably make it work. | 19:15 |
SotK | Tuesday would be best then, or Wednesday if need be | 19:15 |
fungi | i'm up for however/whenever we want to give that a shot | 19:16 |
SotK | I can't do Thursday or Friday | 19:16 |
diablo_rojo | Lets plan for Tuesday then. | 19:16 |
diablo_rojo | I can start that etherpad after this meeting, get it added to the wiki, etc. | 19:17 |
SotK | nice, thanks | 19:17 |
diablo_rojo | #action diablo_rojo to create PTG planning etherpad | 19:17 |
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fungi | awesome | 19:17 |
diablo_rojo | Okay. Kinda got off topic. Shall we move on to In Progress work? | 19:17 |
SotK | sure | 19:18 |
diablo_rojo | #topic In Progress Work | 19:19 |
*** openstack changes topic to "In Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:19 | |
diablo_rojo | So, I started working on one of the things in Octavia's list. | 19:19 |
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diablo_rojo | The same names issue. | 19:19 |
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diablo_rojo | johnsom, fear not, we are working through your list of concerns still! | 19:19 |
diablo_rojo | I put two patches up (one in WIP) for displaying email address with names to help differentiate users with the same name | 19:20 |
diablo_rojo | I updated a few other things on that etherpad with progress as well | 19:20 |
johnsom | Ha, good stuff. The team will be happy to hear it | 19:20 |
diablo_rojo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-issues Octavia's concerns | 19:20 |
diablo_rojo | johnsom, you saw the project urls and now not just numbers anymore? | 19:21 |
diablo_rojo | SotK, is working on the same for project groups | 19:21 |
fungi | oh, dhellmann noticed that when he was submitting changes to review.openstack.org with just a story header and no task header, he got no story comments (and i found no evidence in gerrit's log that it even tried. i need to attempt to reproduce on storyboard-dev.o.o/review-dev.o.o but think the storyboard-its plugin for gerrit may be misconfigured | 19:21 |
diablo_rojo | Oh interesting. | 19:21 |
fungi | on my to do list since monday, haven't gotten to it yet | 19:22 |
diablo_rojo | Its only Wednesday, still got a whole half a week left | 19:22 |
fungi | SotK: also spotted a failure to comment from a change which _did_ have both story and task footers, so i still need to see if i can find corresponding gerrit log entries for that incident. it did not persist | 19:22 |
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fungi | er, SotK also spotted | 19:23 |
diablo_rojo | Noted. | 19:23 |
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SotK | meanwhile I started fixing some bugs which we had a bunch of duplicate stories for, around the "jump to" box and linking to tasks | 19:24 |
diablo_rojo | Any other in progress work we want to mention? | 19:24 |
johnsom | diablo_rojo I missed that. Do we need to update the deliverables files for the releases repo? I know they link to the number still | 19:24 |
fungi | there's a massive stack of SotK work out there for the webclient which i should review | 19:24 |
SotK | I'd appreciate some reviews on that if folk have time: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient+branch:master+topic:bugfixes | 19:25 |
fungi | johnsom: both work, you can use either and update if/when you like | 19:25 |
johnsom | Excellent, thank you | 19:25 |
diablo_rojo | Beat me to it :) | 19:25 |
diablo_rojo | fungi, yeah whenever you can get on some of SotK and fatema's patches for review | 19:25 |
diablo_rojo | I think that would move us forward a ton. | 19:26 |
diablo_rojo | Most are hanging out with one +2 | 19:26 |
fungi | absolutely. i think i'm good with the search ordering implementation of fatema's | 19:26 |
fungi | just need to finalize the review | 19:26 |
diablo_rojo | Sweet. | 19:26 |
diablo_rojo | Unfortunately her official internship duration ends soon, but I imagine she will stick around for a while- hopefully even longer than that, but time will tell :) | 19:27 |
diablo_rojo | I already mentioned that she has funding for the PTG right? | 19:27 |
fungi | maybe we can find her more internships ;) | 19:27 |
diablo_rojo | She's just trying to get through some visa bs before its all settled. | 19:27 |
fungi | i missed that if you mentioned it, but awesome!!! | 19:27 |
SotK | nice! | 19:27 |
diablo_rojo | Visa pending. | 19:28 |
diablo_rojo | I told her if there were any letters we needed to get things expedited and that I would be on it. | 19:28 |
diablo_rojo | I have a check in with her end of next week so hopefully that is all panning out by then | 19:28 |
diablo_rojo | Any thing else on in progress? | 19:28 |
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SotK | I don't think I have anything | 19:29 |
diablo_rojo | #topic Wiki Overhaul | 19:29 |
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diablo_rojo | I did a thing and I already forgot I did that. | 19:29 |
fungi | we spent some time in last week's meeting congratulating you on it | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard Storyboard Wiki | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | Oh | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | ha ha | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | I missed that in the logs I guess :) | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | Glad you all like it | 19:30 |
SotK | :) | 19:30 |
SotK | its good, thank you | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | Okay well then nothing on that topic. | 19:30 |
diablo_rojo | #topic Open Discussion | 19:30 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:30 | |
diablo_rojo | Anyone got anything else? | 19:31 |
diablo_rojo | Besides begging for reviews and needing a clone of themselves to get more work done? | 19:31 |
SotK | other than that I don't think I have anything | 19:32 |
* fungi is feeling spread too thin volunteering for stuff, but it's probably just fallout from two weeks of vacation | 19:32 | |
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fungi | nothing from me | 19:32 |
diablo_rojo | vacation is wonderful while you're there and terrible after | 19:33 |
diablo_rojo | Okay well I can leave it open for a few min if we think we should..? | 19:33 |
fungi | nobody seems to be chiming in, i'd just #endmeeting now | 19:34 |
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diablo_rojo | Coolio | 19:34 |
diablo_rojo | if folks have anything they want to discuss, please join us in #storyboard! | 19:34 |
diablo_rojo | #endmeeting | 19:34 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 8 19:34:40 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:34 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-08-08-19.05.html | 19:34 |
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fungi | thanks again diablo_rojo! | 19:34 |
SotK | thanks diablo_rojo | 19:34 |
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diablo_rojo | No problem :) | 19:45 |
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notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 8 21:00:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:01 |
notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting | 21:01 |
timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
notmyname | ? | 21:01 |
kota_ | hi | 21:01 |
tdasilva | hello | 21:01 |
notmyname | hmm... anyone else coming this week? | 21:02 |
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notmyname | hello zaitcev | 21:03 |
notmyname | rledisez: ping? | 21:03 |
notmyname | ok, we can get started. just a few things to go over, then we should have open discussion for anything that needs brought up, then we'll be done | 21:04 |
notmyname | #topic updates, release, priorities | 21:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "updates, release, priorities (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:04 | |
notmyname | I added a bunch of stuff to the priority reviews page... | 21:04 |
notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 21:04 |
notmyname | this is my thinking... | 21:04 |
notmyname | for the openstack release cycle, we need to tag a release during the week of August 20 (two weeks from now) | 21:05 |
notmyname | sooner is better, of course, in case any issues come up | 21:05 |
notmyname | however, looking at what's outstanding, I updated the page | 21:05 |
notmyname | swiftstack's current short-term priority is to get the multi-key KMIP stuff landed and the s3api patches landed. for the whole community, I would like to see PUT+POST land, too | 21:06 |
notmyname | also, I know https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447129 has been open for a long time, and I think it would be nice to see it included | 21:06 |
patchbot | patch 447129 - swift - Configure diskfile per storage policy | 21:06 |
notmyname | however, just that right there is a big list to get done in the next 1.5 weeks | 21:06 |
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notmyname | those of us at swiftstack are focussing on the s3api patches and the kmip ones. and I hope we can help with progress on put+post, but I also hope others can help there too | 21:07 |
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notmyname | later this week, I'll work on the authors/changelog patch, so that it's near-done and can be landed quickly | 21:08 |
notmyname | I'm taking some time off next week (before my kids go back to school), so I want to have that part nearly done before I leave | 21:08 |
notmyname | (this also implies skipping next week's meeting, unless someone else volunteers to run it) | 21:08 |
notmyname | any questions or comments on any of that? | 21:08 |
zaitcev | Nope, all is clear. | 21:09 |
notmyname | cool | 21:09 |
notmyname | kota_: is all that clear to you too? | 21:09 |
kota_ | thinking of 447129, i think it can be included in this cycle | 21:09 |
kota_ | if it's ok to work with some minor fixes on the patch | 21:10 |
kota_ | p 447129 | 21:10 |
patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447129/ - swift - Configure diskfile per storage policy | 21:10 |
notmyname | kota_: I think that would be great, but it's probably only going to get included if you review it and help out | 21:10 |
notmyname | ya | 21:10 |
notmyname | or maybe with zaitcev too | 21:10 |
zaitcev | Well, Kota added -1, I need to check why. | 21:10 |
kota_ | i finished the review already and have a follow up, waiting rledisez... but he seems busy? | 21:10 |
notmyname | yeah, I haven't heard from rledisez. not sure what's going ok | 21:11 |
kota_ | the -1 is soft one, regression from older patch set and i have an idea how it imporove it. | 21:11 |
notmyname | oh, I'd also meant to link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507808/ because the authors have been very patient and it's largely an independent piece of work | 21:12 |
patchbot | patch 507808 - swift - Add ability to undelete an account. | 21:12 |
kota_ | I'll try to poke rledisez to get it merged sooner. | 21:12 |
notmyname | thanks | 21:12 |
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kota_ | speaking of the others, probably i should go over s3api's :P | 21:13 |
notmyname | :-) | 21:13 |
timburke | fwiw, a lot of them were ports from swift3 patches | 21:13 |
notmyname | I think tdasilva is looking at the s3api patches, too | 21:13 |
timburke | but i'm sure they'd benefit from some review and critical thinking | 21:14 |
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notmyname | also, FWIW, I'll set up an etherpad to start planning PTG discussion topics. I should have that ready later this week | 21:15 |
kota_ | +1 | 21:16 |
notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:16 |
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:16 | |
notmyname | ok, what else need to be brought up this week during this meeting? | 21:16 |
notmyname | tdasilva: I believe you wanted to bring something up | 21:16 |
tdasilva | yeah!!! | 21:16 |
tdasilva | hey everyone, just wanted to announce that I've joined SwiftStack, started here on Monday | 21:17 |
kota_ | wow | 21:17 |
zaitcev | well | 21:17 |
zaitcev | that's only 1 for 2 | 21:17 |
kota_ | big surprise!! | 21:18 |
kota_ | oh what? | 21:18 |
zaitcev | A good news but not enough to keep us ticking. | 21:18 |
notmyname | zaitcev: meaning? | 21:18 |
zaitcev | We need 2 more core reviewers with Sam and Alistair gone, right? | 21:19 |
notmyname | yeah, we're still net down 2 people from where we were | 21:19 |
timburke | we could always use more core reviewers | 21:19 |
notmyname | it's definitely a topic we should discuss in person at the PTG | 21:20 |
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notmyname | tdasilva: being an employee of swiftstack myself, I'm super excited you've joined | 21:20 |
zaitcev | tdasilva: Will you relocate to SF? | 21:21 |
notmyname | overall, as a whole community, we've got a lot to do and think about when it comes to attracting new people, including core maintainers | 21:21 |
tdasilva | notmyname: thanks | 21:21 |
tdasilva | zaitcev: nope | 21:21 |
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notmyname | kota_: zaitcev: one thing on that topic that I've been thinking about a lot lately is to recognize not on the contraction of the community but the concentration of dev work at swiftstack. and I would love to hear from you (email or privately on irc) your thoughts on how we can address issues and potential issues | 21:24 |
notmyname | we've got quite a few good things going for us as a community, but we've also got some challenges. i want to honestly look at where we are and make sure we aren't unintentionally excluding people | 21:25 |
notmyname | and I think we all have ideas on how to grow the community overall | 21:25 |
notmyname | and this too is something we should talk about at the PTG | 21:26 |
zaitcev | notmyname: I noticed some of it, but I thought that the fault was with us 3 at Red Hat for not driving the agenda more actively. Like, that PUT+POST spent much too long gestating. Or, the Python 3 was our thing for a while and it went nowhere until Tim in particular started attacking it seriously. | 21:27 |
notmyname | we are a team, regardless of who pays us or where we live, and together we need to figure out the best ways to go into the future | 21:27 |
notmyname | zaitcev: I definitely do not want to do any blaming. if there are any failings, we need to address them as a group (and solve them as a group) | 21:27 |
notmyname | but I think you're right about some patches like put/post taking too long to gestate | 21:28 |
zaitcev | Some people even ask me what's going to happen to Swift now that OpenStack itself ran out its hype cycle (according to the number of Google Searches for the term, e.g.). My stock answer is that people still need to store data, and Ceph is not doing everything needed. | 21:28 |
zaitcev | I suppose we could always divorce from OpenStack if it starts to collapse in a measurable way. | 21:29 |
notmyname | "people still need to store data" +100 | 21:29 |
zaitcev | Well, there's S3, you know | 21:29 |
kota_ | +1 | 21:29 |
notmyname | I'm not ready to give up and say the whole world should "just use s3" :-) | 21:30 |
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zaitcev | Yeah. Remember how they lost power in Virginia datacenter, which is the default region. Whoo, boy. | 21:30 |
timburke | (zaitcev: speaking of py3, you might be interested in some of where my patches are going -- i've got some horribly-disorganized commits up at https://github.com/tipabu/swift/tree/moar-py3 that helped me shake out some of the bugs in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548727/) | 21:30 |
patchbot | patch 548727 - swift - py3: port bufferedhttp (hopefully) | 21:30 |
kota_ | I believe Swift will be needed too. | 21:30 |
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zaitcev | timburke: thanks | 21:31 |
notmyname | timburke: you just reminded me of something with that comment | 21:31 |
notmyname | it *is* important to keep in mind where we're going. eg what's the point of a certain patch and how it fits in | 21:32 |
notmyname | right now, there are a few high-level things that current and planned patches are leading to | 21:32 |
timburke | tl;dr: i've got some py3 func tests running! just gotta make sure that data written with py2 is readable on py3 and vice-versa, and that a mix of py2 and py3 servers can all communicate, and... | 21:32 |
zaitcev | nice nice | 21:32 |
zaitcev | upgrade path, too, I presume | 21:32 |
notmyname | first, with s3, after the current s3api patches land, we'll be able to work more freely on some new s3 compatibility. we'll likely be doign s3 versioning next | 21:33 |
notmyname | also, since the best we can do with s3 is to follow amazon, we'll always have more work to do there | 21:33 |
notmyname | second, OVH is working on their LOSF work, and it seems like an improvement that will significantly help a lot of clusters | 21:34 |
notmyname | one day, I hope we're able to have swift dynamically choose how data is stored on disk (LOSF slabs or not) and what durability scheme it uses (EC, replication) just based on the data | 21:34 |
notmyname | eventually, we may even be able to do stuff like change that over time (similar to policy migration work) | 21:35 |
notmyname | third, we've still got the "big picture" ideas about replacing rsync with our own code ("tsync") and rewriting the storage servers in golang | 21:35 |
notmyname | those three things above will take ... oh, idk ... another 3 years at least :-) | 21:36 |
notmyname | so we've got a lot of work to do still | 21:36 |
notmyname | but at a high level, those are the big things I see us working towards | 21:37 |
kota_ | I know we have the big picture, always I answer the story when I asked from my co-workers (or boss) ;-) | 21:37 |
notmyname | kota_: nice :-) | 21:37 |
notmyname | anyway, that's all I've got for this week. anything else to bring up? | 21:38 |
tdasilva | kota_: are you going to the PTG? | 21:38 |
zaitcev | I think SwiftStack hoovers all the work like this because it's basically impossible to do anything unless one's company derives most of its revenue from Swift. I have to deal with stupidest thing like clustering all the things and suddenly you can't find your logs. | 21:38 |
kota_ | tdasilva: sure, I booked whole week on the PTG | 21:38 |
kota_ | tdasilva: how about you? | 21:39 |
tdasilva | yep | 21:40 |
kota_ | :-) | 21:40 |
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notmyname | anything else? | 21:42 |
notmyname | no meeting next week (unless someone else volunteers) | 21:42 |
notmyname | thanks for coming today, and thanks for working on swift | 21:43 |
notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:43 |
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