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| gmann | njohnston: slaweq sorry for late response. noted about bionic migration. having local overridden jobs looks good to me as start | 07:58 |
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| gmann | i have not followed the conversation on TC channel which i will check next week | 07:58 |
| slaweq | gmann: thx, we will work on that :) | 07:58 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Oct 12 14:00:35 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 14:00 |
| njohnston | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi everybody | 14:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:02 | |
| mlavalle | Today we are going to have a very light agenda... | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | We don't have many triaged bugs to discuss today | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | There are some in the piepeline. I've been following with the sibmitters, but not ready yet | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | Today we are going to revisit https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1784879 | 14:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784879 in neutron "Neutron doesn't update Designate with some use cases" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | As you can see in the report itself, the original submitter has agreed on our proposal | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | to add dns_publish_fixed_ip at the subnet level | 14:05 |
| njohnston | yes | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | so I say we can go ahead and approve this one | 14:06 |
| slaweq | +1 | 14:06 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | ok with you haleyb? | 14:07 |
| haleyb | +1 | 14:07 |
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| * mlavalle leaving a message in the RFE | 14:08 | |
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| mlavalle | ok, that's the only one that we needed to discuss today | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | I want to draw the team's attention, though, to some RFEs that are in the pipeline: | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1764738 | 14:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1764738 in neutron "routed provider networks limit to one host" [Wishlist,New] | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | This is an interesting evolution of routed networks. Several weeks ago I left a probing question to the submitter, which he hasn't responded yet | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | But I think there is enough there for some of you to provide your own point of view | 14:12 |
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| mlavalle | please spend some time with it and leave a comment should you have an opinion | 14:12 |
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| slaweq | ok, I will | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | THe following two are in the early discussion pahse, but seem sound to me: | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1796925 | 14:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1796925 in neutron "[RFE] port forwarding floating IP QoS" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1796925 | 14:13 |
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| mlavalle | sorry, this is the second one https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1797140 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1797140 in neutron "[RFE] create port by providing parameters subnet_id only" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | I left clarifying questions last night | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | Finally, I will be looking at this one over the next few minutes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1791159\ | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1791159 in neutron "Enhance SR-IOV agent to handle duplicate MAC addresses" [Undecided,New] | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | Please also take a look an leave a comment if you have an opinion | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | \#topic Open agenda | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:15 | |
| slaweq | I found today also one more: | 14:15 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793653 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1793653 in neutron "[RFE] Enable other subprojects to extend l2pop fdb information" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:15 |
| slaweq | please take a look at it if You will have few minutes | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: perfect, I'll look at it in the time left for this meeting | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 14:16 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | Any thing else we should discuss today? | 14:16 |
| manjeets_ | IMO this one is not changing existing behavior it’s just a refactor I reviewed the code | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | manjeets_: ack | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | ok, have a great weekend! | 14:17 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | thanks for attending | 14:17 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:17 | |
| manjeets_ | bye | 14:17 |
| slaweq | o/ | 14:17 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Oct 12 14:17:41 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-10-12-14.00.html | 14:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-10-12-14.00.txt | 14:17 |
| yamamoto | good night | 14:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-10-12-14.00.log.html | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | good night yamamoto | 14:17 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Oct 12 15:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping dhellmann, evrardjp, armstrong | 15:00 |
| armstrong | hello | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Morning! | 15:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Don't want to leave you out annabelleB if you are still here. :[ | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Hey abhishekk! | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking | 15:01 |
| abhishekk | hey | 15:01 |
| annabelleB | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | R-26 week | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: Yay, you haven't abandoned us yet. :) | 15:01 |
| annabelleB | hehe, here for another week! | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: We'll take you as long as we can get you! | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | ooo, short-timers ;-) | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Handling version increases at the start of each cycle | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Handling version increases at the start of each cycle (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: All yours. | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | I wrote up the basics of this in the meeting agenda | 15:02 |
| elbragstad | o/ | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | the shift away from having milestone tags is going to make upgrade testing downstream more complicated | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | there are a few ways to fix that upstream, and I've proposed a patch to implement 1 of those ways by injecting pbr instructions to bump the versions on master | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | after we create branches | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | but to be clear, it's still possible to create milestone for those who want, right? | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | evrardjp : oh, yes, definitely | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | So I don't know pbr well enough, but just having something in the commit message will trigger something with pbr that will handle this? | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | or whatever we name it | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | although I don't expect anyone to actually do it | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | so the situation doesn't change? | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : yeah, it's a not-well-documented feature | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | let me see if it's even mentioned... | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: I would think most will not do a milestone release, but they certainly can if they want to. | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | it's mentioned here: https://docs.openstack.org/pbr/latest/user/features.html#version | 15:04 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: my point was that for those who were already late in the past and triggered those policy changes HAD to be dealt with in the past too... | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | heh, the docs say "Sem-Ver" but the code looked case-insensitive so I used sem-ver I think | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | the policy change isn't about adding a new requirement, it's about relaxing one | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | so it's not really something we need to make retroactive, if that's what you mean | 15:06 |
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| smcginnis | Looks like adding that sev-ver bit will be pretty easy to do with your patch for opening up master on branching then. | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | not really but let's ignore my comment until I rephrase them correctly | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | evrardjp : I'd be happy to try to answer your question. Sorry if I've misunderstood. :-/ | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : yeah, the only tricky bit will be dealing with stein, since we're well into the cycle | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | I am trying to take a few steps back, it's just that :) | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | we could just generate empty patches with the semver bump, I guess | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Blast out a trivial update to all repos? | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | Yeah | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | that sounds an easy fix | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | the patch itself can be empty, we just need the commit message | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | One time thing, so not too bad. | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | what about those who aren't using pbr? | 15:08 |
| armstrong | who is responsible for making changes on release model, for example, to drop the milestones ... etc? | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | evrardjp : we shouldn't have any official projects in python not using pbr | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | armstrong : the release team defines the models, and each project team signs up for the ones they want to use for their deliverables | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | armstrong: In this case, the release team would handle switching all stein deliverables over from cycle-with-milestone to cycle-with-rc. | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis already has a patch up to modify the existing deliverable files for stein | 15:09 |
| * smcginnis totally forgot he did that :) | 15:10 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606860/ | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | sed for the win | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | so true | 15:10 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | So... any concerns with this approach? It seems good to me. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | And we haven't had any other feedback on that other than the internal RH team. | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | we should probably publicize it on openstack-dev | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | as long as it has a proper topic in gerrit I am good :) | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | I can send an email today | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | although I won't be around to answer questions | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | and this ^ | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Publicize that we are going to have these patches? Or that we are making the -rc switch? Or both? | 15:12 |
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| dhellmann | the patches | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | Yeah. That has potential for a lot of confusion. | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | I think it's worth explaining the patches and remind the context | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | I think the thread about the rc change already mentions the downstream version issue | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | I can reply to that | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | that works too | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Did you want to take on generating those patches or should I? Or other volunteers. | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | I'm going to be out for a couple of weeks or I would offer to do it | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | it seems very scriptable | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Got get your patch count up for the cycle. It's kind of low. :P | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | haha | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | I should give someone else a chance ;-) | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | OK, I can take that action. | 15:14 |
| elbragstad | lol | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | I think the one sending the email should do it | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | it's clearer | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: If you want to announce it on the ML, I can work on generating the patches. | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll mention that you're going to be submitting the patches on behalf of the release team | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | that should avoid any confusion, as evrardjp points out | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Either way. If we think it would cause any confusion I can also post the info the ML. | 15:15 |
| dhellmann | do we want to wait and get ttx's input on this? | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | But saying to watch for patches from me should be OK. | 15:15 |
| evrardjp | yup that should be good. I mean not everyone has followed what's going on, and a few would be surprised, so the ML mail will be important IMO | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | It will be important to have enough info in the commit message to explain this too. | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | having the ML thread out there ahead of the patches means the commit messages can link to it, too | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | but yeah | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if we want to wait for ttx since he's globetrotting right now. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: True | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | "git commit --allow-empty" is the thing you want | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Thanks, was going to confirm that. ;) | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | we should probably include all of the deliverables that haven't been released for stein but that were released in rocky | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything more on cycle-with-rc? | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, anything released in rocky would be a good basis. Not sure if we've had anything in stein that was not also released in rocky. | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | not from me | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | I think we had 1-2 things added as new, but I can't think of the names | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | I'll double check. | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | it's not the end of the world if those get the patches anyway | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | True, if they are new in stein, then it doesn't really matter in this case. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Nothing to upgrade from. | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | right | 15:19 |
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| smcginnis | #topic cycle-with-intermediary lib changes | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cycle-with-intermediary lib changes (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:19 | |
| smcginnis | I posted to the ML yesterday about these changes. | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | So far one positive feedback from searchlight for it. | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | it would be good to have some more feedback, since it's going to hit mostly client libraries | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135689.html | 15:20 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, I think this one will have a bigger impact than the -rc change. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | So we should probably wait a bit before taking any action. | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | Though stein-1 is coming up soon. | 15:21 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, it might be worth forwarding that email to the ptls or liaisons directly | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | this is a bigger than usual sort of change, since it means releases they may not be expecting | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | I'll look at doing that. Last time I tried contacting all PTLs I think I almost had my account shut down. | 15:23 |
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| smcginnis | Did you want to remove your -2 from that sem-ver patch? | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | I suppose there's no rush on that one though. | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Just thinking with you being out the next two weeks. | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | I'll fix the case issue and submit it again and not WIP it | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | OK | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | Anything more to discuss on lib changes? | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | we should test that after it lands before submitting the patches to the projects to make sure I got the semver thing right :-) | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | we can make a branch in the release-test repo | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | OK, good. That should be a quick test. | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:27 | |
| smcginnis | Anything else for today? | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | nothing from mee | 15:27 |
| * elbragstad doesn't have anything | 15:27 | |
| evrardjp | nothing | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. | 15:28 |
| armstrong | thanks | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Oct 12 15:28:32 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-10-12-15.00.html | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-10-12-15.00.txt | 15:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-10-12-15.00.log.html | 15:28 |
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