Wednesday, 2018-11-28

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jungleboyj#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 28 16:00:31 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
jungleboyjcourtesy ping:  jungleboyj diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon tpsilva ganso patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ whoami-rajat yikun rosmaita16:00
geguileohi! o/16:01
jungleboyjHey, look at all these people.  :-)16:01
_pewp_jungleboyj ( ・ω・)ノ16:01
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jungleboyjSo, looks like we can get started.16:02
jungleboyjI don't have any announcements this week.16:03
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jungleboyjsmcginnis:  You have anything you need to share?16:03
smcginnisNot that I can think of right now.16:03
jungleboyjI will just do our weekly PSA to take a look at the Spec Review list:
jungleboyjI haven't had a chance to really keep up with what is in there at the moment.16:04
jungleboyjIf you have patches associated with priority work items having them linked in there would be apprecaited.16:04
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smcginnisI think I saw a couple new drivers that need to be added to the list in that etherpad.16:05
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smcginnisThough I haven't seen any CI from them, so maybe fine to leave them off of there for now.16:05
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Yeah, good point.16:06
jungleboyjI have seen those patches too.  I should investigate that as well.16:06
jungleboyjI see updates going into the etherpad so that is good.  Thank you.16:07
jungleboyjSo, on with the agenda.16:08
jungleboyj#topic mid-cycle planning16:08
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jungleboyjI realized we hadn't talked about this for a bit so I wanted to bring it up again.16:08
jungleboyjWe have some names in the etherpad showing interest.16:09
jungleboyjAre people still generally interested in trying to do a mid-cycle meetup?16:09
smcginnisI think they've always been useful in the past.16:09
smcginnisMore so than Summits even.16:10
jungleboyjsmcginnis: ++16:10
e0nejungleboyj: +1 but only virtual this time :(16:10
jungleboyjeharney:  If we do it in RTP would you be able to attend?16:10
eharneyyes of course16:10
smcginnisMidcycle at Eric's house.16:10
jungleboyjDoes the proposed date work for you?16:10
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Careful, he will make us meet in the garage.16:10
jungleboyjeharney:  Time to get the pool table so we can use it for a workspace.16:11
eharneyi think the date works fine16:11
jungleboyjOk.  So we would have at least 5 people physically there.16:11
jungleboyjWe could do that at Eric's house.  ;-)16:12
tbarronI'll likely kibbutz, especially if you guys talk about the quota-rework and active-active stuff16:12
jungleboyjThough, if we schedule it I bet more will come.16:12
smcginnisWas just going to ping you tbarron ;)16:12
jungleboyjtbarron:  Cool.16:12
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jungleboyjeharney:  Are there other people on your team there that might join?16:13
eharneyRosmaita, and could probably talk jbernard into some of it16:13
jungleboyjOk.  Cool.16:13
eharneyno idea about that Gorka guy16:13
* jungleboyj chants geguileo , geguileo 16:14
geguileoit is unlikely that I'll join the mid-cycle16:14
geguileoas usual  :-(16:14
jungleboyjgeguileo:  Could you make it virtually for topics that impact you if we schedule them appropriately?16:15
smcginnisWe'll just assign a lot of the work to you and then jungleboyj can ask you about it every week in the meeting. :)16:15
geguileojungleboyj: that's a given  :-)16:15
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jungleboyjsmcginnis:  ++16:15
geguileosmcginnis: rofl rofl rofl16:15
jungleboyjgeguileo:  Ok.  Cool.16:15
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jungleboyjI have sent an e-mail to management asking if we can host.16:16
jungleboyjIt would be pretty barebones I am guessing but I am pretty sure that Wifi works.  :-)16:16
rosmaitaso you weren't kidding about eric's house16:16
jungleboyjAnyone else in RTP interested in hosting?16:17
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jungleboyjThat sounds like a no.16:18
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jungleboyjOk.  I will keep pushing it forward on my side and keep working towards the proposed date.16:18
jungleboyjTry to see if I can get our hosting confirmed in the next week or two.16:18
smcginnisType faster jungleboyj16:20
jungleboyj#topic Nova not compatible with Cinder earlier than Queens?16:20
*** openstack changes topic to "Nova not compatible with Cinder earlier than Queens? (Meeting topic: Cinder)"16:20
jungleboyjSo, there was this discussion on the ML from mriedem asking about this stance.16:21
jungleboyjIs anyone aware of this stance being made?16:21
smcginnisI could have sworn we had stated that before, but I also could not find anywhere it was written down.16:21
eharneynot aware of it16:21
smcginnisAnd it was probably from before microversions.16:21
smcginnisThat said, removal of v1 is so far overdue, I don't think it's really an issue.16:21
jungleboyjIf anyone made the statement it would have been jgriffith ?16:21
smcginnisv1 has been disabled for awhile and deprecated for a long while.16:22
smcginnisv2 will be another story.16:22
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e0neI don't understand the use case16:23
jungleboyjThat too is a question.16:23
e0newhy nova uses N-2 version?16:23
e0neI do understand N-1 use case during upgrades16:23
smcginnisI think it's just that we never state anywhere that you can't use a newer nova with an older cinder.16:24
smcginnisI don't think anyone would recommend that, but it's not officially declared as something you cannot do.16:24
e0nesmcginnis: +116:24
smcginnisAnyone aware of any of your customers running this way?16:24
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Right.  So, was the line drawn at the point where microversions started?16:24
smcginnisDoes Red Hat or other distros have a policy on supporting something like this?16:25
eharneywe only support deployments with all versions of the same release AFAIK16:25
smcginnisI think given the lack of response on that ML thread, no one is concerned about running that way. Or no one really cares. Or no one actually reads the ML anymore. One of the aboce.16:26
eharneyi think there's always been a theory that mixing versions should work, but i don't know how much anyone has ever tried to make sure it works...16:26
jungleboyjeharney:  Given my experience with RHOSP that makes esne.16:26
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smcginnisWe don't really test anything other than N with N-1, so there are no guarantees it would work really.16:27
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  True enough.16:27
jungleboyjSo, is this just a documentation issue?16:28
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smcginnisMatt might want a release note in Nova.16:28
whoami-rajatI think Kolla ansible allows deploying modules with different releases (or even services with different releases) in containers and it's used for PoC purposes.16:28
eharneyi think some people would ask, if we have compatibility guarantees around APIs with microversions etc, why wouldn't it work, exactly?16:28
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jungleboyjeharney:  Right, but that would only start at the point where we had Microversion Support.  Right?16:29
smcginnisSince v3 is our only supported API version, I think that's the minimum. Once there, we should be able to support any mix theoretically if we are using microversions right.16:29
eharneyjungleboyj: maybe..16:30
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jungleboyjV3 started back in Mitaka.16:30
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jungleboyjSo, in theory, Mitaka or high should work.16:31
tbarronwhich version of brick do you use when you mix versions of nova and cinder?16:31
jungleboyjtbarron: Ugh.16:31
jungleboyjThe one thing about queens is that is when we got all the attachment changes in place that jgriffith and ildikov had worked on.16:32
jungleboyjI am wondering if that was why a line had been drawn in the sad.16:32
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* tbarron likes 'line in the sad' :)16:32
* tbarron is drawing a face right now16:33
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jungleboyjLets see if this works ... jgriffith16:34
jungleboyjThat was 3 times.16:34
* jungleboyj now is sad16:34
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jungleboyjOk.  So, the summary seems to be that we don't see anywhere that Queens is documented as the limit for compatability.16:35
smcginnisAnyway, I think we're fine with the change.16:35
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smcginnisIf nova wants to add a release note, they can.16:35
jungleboyjIn theory it could be back to Mitaka but that isn't tested.16:36
jungleboyjWe don't recommend running more than N and N-1 .16:36
smcginnisI don't think we are going to ask multiple mixed version tests and I don't think we need to change anything in Cinder.16:36
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smcginnisTyping hard16:36
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Typing is ahrd today.16:36
smcginnisjgriffith: I thought you were going to stay hidden. :)16:37
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok.16:37
jungleboyjHe is getting slow with the say his name three times thing.16:37
jgriffithsmcginnis: nahh :)  Trying to distill the question16:37
smcginnisSomething with new attachments with mix of old and new os-brick. Not really sure myself.16:38
jungleboyjjgriffith: Is there a reason someone would have said Cinder earlier than Queens is not compatible with Nova.16:38
ildikovNot my fault! :)16:39
jungleboyjHe he.16:39
jgriffithNot that I'm aware of16:39
jungleboyjNow the gang's all here!16:39
jgriffithI don't know where that came from16:39
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jungleboyjjgriffith: Ok.  Cool.  Thank you.16:39
smcginnisildikov must have an alert set up on "attachments". :)16:39
ildikovOn a conference so couldn't read back on full context though16:39
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Nah, I mentioned her too.16:40
jgriffithI believe the confusion (maybe?) was that johnthetubaguy did raise points about the other direction (obviously)16:40
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jungleboyjildikov: So you just respond not my fault?  he he he.16:40
ildikovsmcginnis: don't we all by now? :)16:40
jgriffithBut honestly the versioning should make all of that work out16:40
jungleboyjjgriffith:  Oh, that makes sense.16:40
ildikovI read a few lines around your ping16:40
jgriffithjungleboyj: well... kinda; but again versioning makes it kind of irrelavant I think16:40
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smcginnisSo the answer is just to use v3. ;)16:41
ildikovAnd yeah, we put a lot of work into versions16:41
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jgriffithWhich V3?16:41
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smcginnisCinder API v3.16:41
jgriffithYou mean the V2 we poin to from V3?16:41
smcginnisThis came about because I removed some handling for v1 from Nova.16:41
jgriffithor one of the V3."<insert-one-of-70-numbers-here>16:41
smcginnisOnce we're able to use microversions, then it doesn't really matter what versions the services are.16:42
smcginnisBut we need to get rid of v1 AND v2.16:42
jgriffithsmcginnis: +116:42
jungleboyjsmcginnis: +116:42
e0nesmcginnis: +216:42
ildikovsmcginnis: +116:42
jgriffithI thought we already did started that process?16:42
smcginnisv1 is gone, but there was still a check for it in Nova.16:42
smcginnisThat's gone now.16:42
jgriffithOk, gotcha16:43
smcginnisAnd I've started the work on removing v2, but between tempest changes, client changes, etc., that's taking awhile.16:43
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Thanks for working on that.16:43
jgriffithyeah, and the intertwining of V3 and V2 I'll be curious to see what that looks like in the end :)16:43
smcginnisShould just be a few moves and getting rid of some proxy classes.16:44
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jungleboyjSo, I think the answer is that we don't have a reason for saying that anything earlier than Queens isn't supported but we don't test anything less than N with N-1 .16:44
jgriffith`cp -r ..../V2/* .../V3/`16:44
jgriffithjungleboyj: not that I'm aware of; but my brain forgets things16:45
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e0neI remember how many things were broken while I tried to remov v116:45
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smcginnisYeah, that took some work.16:46
e0netempest, devstack, nova, glance16:46
jungleboyj:-)  Apparently every line we type needs to have a tpyo.16:46
e0nethat what I have in the mind16:46
e0nejungleboyj: it's a Typo Day16:46
jungleboyjSo, sohuld we move on to the next topic?16:47
jungleboyj#action jungleboyj to respond to the mailing list thread.16:47
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jungleboyj#topic Python 3.7 Support16:48
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: All your's.16:48
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smcginnisNot sure if folks saw some of the discussion, but we've kind of gotten complacent that our python versions have been stable for awhile.16:48
smcginnisThat's changing though, and we need to be prepared for Python 3.7 support which will be the default version on our supported platforms in T or U.16:49
smcginnisThere's a patch out there to add a job, mostly as a pipecleaner to see what's needed to get there.16:49
smcginnisLooks like the VMAX driver (if I remember right) has some issues, but I think it's actually through its use of taskflow.16:50
smcginnisSo there's a bug open against Cinder and taskflow for this.16:50
e0necan we have this job in non-voting until taskflow will be fixed?16:50
smcginnisIt might be the case that once taskflow is fixed we don't have anything to worry about in Cinder, but leaving the bug out there until we confirm that.16:50
smcginnise0ne: Yeah, maybe that would be good to make sure we don't introduce anything else breaking.16:51
e0nesmcginnis: it's VNX driver:
smcginnisV*X :)16:51
e0neok, it was a typo in a driver name16:51
smcginnisHaha, yeah.16:51
smcginnisSo I just wanted to raise this for awareness. We aren't going to be on 3.5 forever, so we need to be preparing for newer versions.16:52
jungleboyjWhat is the bug for the taskflow issue?16:52
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1780823 in taskflow "Py3.7 RuntimeError: generator raised StopIteration" [High,Confirmed]16:52
e0neI'm OK to have this job in non-voting for now if we're going to switch to 3.7 in T or U release16:52
smcginnisMight also be a good opportunity to remind CI operators that you should be moving to running under python 3.16:53
e0nesmcginnis: +116:53
smcginnisOur unit tests pass, but there have been a few cases where actually runtime has uncovered issues under py3 that were not a problem under py2.16:53
smcginnisWe are dropping Python 2.7 in U.16:54
smcginnisAnd if anyone wants to dig into that taskflow bug, I don't think they have a lot of attention right now.16:54
smcginnisThat's all I really had on that for now. Just raising awareness.16:56
* jungleboyj waits for everyone to jump on our favorite taskflow .16:56
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Cool.  Thanks.16:56
jungleboyjLast think I had was a bug that came up.16:56
jungleboyj#topic bugs16:56
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1805506 in Cinder "Tempest tests failing with some errors related to cinder backups" [Undecided,New]16:57
jungleboyjSo, neutron's jobs are seeing some failures due to Cinder backup.16:57
jungleboyje0ne:  Any thoughts on this given your backup experience?16:58
e0neI need to read logs16:58
jungleboyje0ne:  Ok.16:58
jungleboyjMind taking a look at that?16:58
e0neI'll check the logs but can't promise that I'll have a time to fix it this week16:59
jungleboyje0ne:  No problem.  Just wanted to make sure to get it to the right person.17:00
jungleboyjAnd, that is all we have time for this week.17:00
jungleboyjThank you for joining the meeting and working on Cinder!17:00
jungleboyjTalk to you all next week!17:00
e0nesee you next week17:00
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diablo_rojo#startmeeting storyboard19:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 28 19:00:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'19:00
* fungi is on time for once19:00
diablo_rojoHello :)19:01
diablo_rojo#link Agenda19:01
diablo_rojo#topic Announcements19:01
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diablo_rojoNothing I could think of..19:02
diablo_rojoAnyone have announcements?19:02
funginot me19:02
diablo_rojoOkay moving on then!19:02
diablo_rojoHello SotK :)19:02
diablo_rojo#topic Migration Updates19:03
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diablo_rojoI still haven't gotten around to poking at the LP API to figure out whats up there..19:03
diablo_rojoHas anyone else?19:03
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SotKI haven't I'm afraid19:03
diablo_rojoMy focus atm is the attachment stuff which is further down in the agenda so if anyone else wants to take a stab at it.19:04
diablo_rojoYou'd have my full support :)19:04
fungilooking at my to do list at the moment, i can't promise anything19:06
diablo_rojoPost summit is a busy time for everyone.19:06
diablo_rojoNo worries.19:06
diablo_rojo#topic Berlin19:06
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diablo_rojo#link Etherpad from the session19:07
diablo_rojoYes I realize the name is weird19:07
diablo_rojoI accidentally used the wrong one I had created19:07
diablo_rojoSo I just went with it19:07
diablo_rojo#link ML Summary of Forum Session19:08
diablo_rojoEssentially, there wasn't anything big we didn't already know about19:08
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fungiit was a surprisingly positive session for a change19:09
fungipeople didn't really show up just to complain ;)19:09
diablo_rojoYeah it was nice that most of the things were small or we already knew about19:09
diablo_rojoWhich is funny because this was when that was supposed to happen19:09
SotKthat is good to here19:09
diablo_rojoI havent finished putting the todos into sb yet, but I will do that today.19:10
diablo_rojofungi, anything else to share on this session?19:10
diablo_rojoI know StoryBoard came up in another session..19:11
diablo_rojoopendev maybe?19:11
diablo_rojoOne of the infra ones..19:11
* diablo_rojo rakes brain19:11
fungiyeah, i really don't remember now19:11
diablo_rojoClark was leading it I think19:11
fungiclarkb might remember if it came up in one of his sessions19:12
diablo_rojoBasically just ended up reaffirming that there should be a separate interface for filing stories into that does smart things so the user doesn't have to know all the details19:12
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fungii think i led the opendev session (sort of anyway)19:12
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clarkbaroo? (sorry somewhat distracted)19:12
diablo_rojoclarkb, there was a session where storyboard came up?19:12
fungiat the forum19:12
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clarkbthere was the storyboard migration blocker session19:14
fungiwe meant in addition to that19:14
diablo_rojoclarkb, yeah but it came up in another session that I thought you were leading19:14
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clarkbI think in the context of opendev the idea was maybe we needed to have just a bug tracker option19:14
clarkbwhich might not be storyboard?19:14
diablo_rojoits all a blur at this point19:14
fungioh, maybe it came up in the goals session?19:14
diablo_rojoI wasn't in the goals one.19:15
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diablo_rojoOh well.19:15
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diablo_rojoNot super important was just trying to recap all the mentions19:15
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diablo_rojofungi, yes! That was it19:15
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diablo_rojoSorry clarkb it was actually sylvain19:16
fungii had to skim the list of forum sessions to jog my memory19:16
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fungithey do both have similar french accents19:16
diablo_rojoAnywho, there was a lot of talk of task tracking19:16
diablo_rojoand StoryBoard came up19:17
diablo_rojoAnything else from Berlin?19:17
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fungithere was a lot of bier19:17
fungii don't remember much else19:17
fungii don't remember that either come to think of it19:18
diablo_rojoOkay moving on then.19:18
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diablo_rojo#topic Story Attachments19:18
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diablo_rojoAnother thing towards the top of my todo list is updating this spec19:19
diablo_rojo#link Spec19:19
diablo_rojoSo, if anyone has more comments, please add them now before I do another update :)19:19
SotKI'll take a look later :)19:20
diablo_rojoSotK, cool. I will wait for your comments then :)19:20
diablo_rojoAnything else here for now?19:20
fungiall clear19:21
diablo_rojo#topic Moving DB closer to site for faster queries19:21
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SotKthis sounds like a good idea19:21
diablo_rojoThis topic came up in our blockers session and I brought it up yesterday in the meeting.19:22
SotKit should at least help until we can make things faster19:22
diablo_rojoObviously its kind of putting a bandaid on a larger issue, but if its minimal effort and helps at all, I say we go for it19:22
diablo_rojofungi, is there anything we can do to help with this? or..?19:22
fungii expect minimal gains from it, but it's worth trying and might also make profiling a little easier19:23
fungicorvus brought up in the infra meeting that actually improving the queries without being able to have maintainable testing which confirms they're not subsequently broken is a challenge/show-stopper19:24
SotKI agree19:24
SotKI think we need to give some proper thought to sorting out our tests tbh19:25
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diablo_rojoSotK, is that something you can look into in the next week or so?19:26
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fungihe's had a change out there for ages to try and fix the e-mail notifications for private stories, but it's blocked on being able to actually get a regression test for it working19:26
SotKperhaps but I can't promise anything19:26
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fungi(note the fix included a test, but the result of trying to run the test was an incomprehensible failure)19:27
diablo_rojoI think is the patch you are talking about fungi ^19:29
clarkbI did recheck the change to get new logs19:29
clarkb(the old logs had been cleaned up a while back)19:29
clarkbya that is the change19:29
diablo_rojoclarkb, oh nice, thank you :)19:29
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diablo_rojoSotK, if you can start there that might be good.19:31
SotKwill do19:31
diablo_rojoI think corvus is willing to gift us more small changes if we can unblock him19:31
SotKI'ol do my best to get to it by next meeting19:31
diablo_rojoSotK, sounds good19:31
diablo_rojo#topic In Progress Work19:31
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diablo_rojoAnything people want to mention here in particular? I think we've covered a lot of the big things already19:32
SotKi have nothing19:32
diablo_rojo#link!/board/1 Board for tracking work19:33
diablo_rojoTrying to keep that up to date.19:33
diablo_rojowith where we are all at19:33
diablo_rojoplease edit as you all see fit19:33
diablo_rojoIf no one has things to plug here we can move to open discussion19:34
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diablo_rojo#topic Open Discussion19:34
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diablo_rojoI'll leave it open for 10 min or so in case anyone shows up with something they want to talk about19:35
fungii have a lovely late lunch consisting of some meaty meat pies, so that's where my attention is focusing next19:37
* diablo_rojo should probably eat something at somepoint today19:37
diablo_rojomeatpies sound lovely19:37
fungii highly recommend sustenance19:37
fungifar more convenient than starvation19:38
diablo_rojoThe debate will be whether to cook something or to go out into the humans and buy something.19:38
fungiitym "go downstairs"19:38
diablo_rojoHa ha yeah downstairs/ out into humans same difference19:39
fungisomething to be said for living upstairs from a grocer at times like these19:41
diablo_rojoThe larger barrier is humans. Not so much going downstairs.19:41
diablo_rojoAside from getting stuck in the elevator like last weekend19:41
fungioh no! i hope your icecream didnm't melt19:44
diablo_rojofungi, thankfully no ice cream was harmed19:44
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diablo_rojoI think I am going to call this meeting adjourned19:46
diablo_rojoin 3...19:46
fungithanks diablo_rojo!19:46
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mattoliverau#startmeeting swift21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'21:01
mattoliverauwho's here for the swift team meeting?21:01
mattoliverau\o/ hey guys21:01
rledisezhi o/21:01
mattoliverauthis will be another status update meeting. notmyname is travelling so I'll have to try and fill his enourmous shoes.21:02
mattoliverauagenda is at21:02
mattoliverauJust a few topics and mainly priority reviews and status updates on task queue and losf21:03
mattoliverauthis might be a quick meeting.21:04
claygmattoliverau: o/21:04
mattoliverauclayg: o/21:04
mattoliveraucool, let's get started21:04
mattoliverau#topic priority reviews21:04
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claygthat list looks good - mattoliverau did you curate that?21:04
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mattoliveraunah, I'm too lazy to do that :P21:05
tdasilvaI noticed kazuhiro updated some general task queue patches21:05
mattoliverauSo last week we talked about adding my multi-kms patch to the prioirty reviews, which I forgot, but doesn't matter because thanks to timburke it's been +Aed!21:06
mattoliverautdasilva: yeah, wish we was here so we could ask about it's state21:06
timburkejust needs to get through the gate ;-)21:06
mattoliverauyeah, easier said then done. I was hoping to say it's landed.. but alas not :P21:07
mattoliverauhow are the pending s3api patches going? timburke?21:07
timburkeno real progress -- i at least did some rebasing, though!21:08
mattoliverauany more to add? need more eyes for reviews?21:08
mattoliverauahh rebasing is good.21:08
mattoliveraualso, it has been Thanksgiving so a slower week then normal21:08
timburkeeyes are good.*+project:openstack/swift is a handy dash to look at just s3 changes21:08
mattoliveraualso to all you Americans, happy thanksgiving and I hope your fridges are full of leftovers :)21:09
timburkeoh yeah! is a reasonably cool patch that would open up some possibilities like
mattoliverauahh cool21:10
timburkebut i need to come up with a better name for the callback than "slo_validator", since it can make modifications, too...21:10
mattoliverauslo-matic :P21:11
mattoliverautoo early for me :P21:11
claygtimburke: the name is always the hardest part21:12
timburkei was thinking slo_manifest_hook but i'm certainly open to suggestions21:12
clayghooks are good!21:12
timburkeclayg: real handy for catching fish!21:12
mattoliverauwe (old rackspace team) used to use a project naming engine21:12
mattoliverauit's where we got turbohipster (for some nova 3rd party api runner we wrote)21:13
mattoliverauanyway, now I'm distracted and off topic :P21:13
mattoliverauAnything else re:priority reviews? anything we need to add?21:14
mattoliveraulet's move on21:14
mattoliverau#topic task queue21:15
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mattoliveraukazuhiro isn't here unfortuantly21:15
mattoliverauSo not much to really say about this.21:16
mattoliveraurledisez: any chance you had to time to look at the follow up doc patch we want to merge in? kazuhiro wanted you to take a look.21:16
rledisezmattoliverau: no, sorry for that, i've been busy fighting eventlet (but I won, i think…)21:17
mattoliverauAs tdasilva mentioned, kazuhiro pushed up a new change set yesterday (my time). I haven't looked closely but think it might be a rebase21:17
mattoliveraurledisez: 1 eventlet: 021:17
timburkerledisez: you were right, that was a good bug :-)21:18
mattoliveraurledisez: nps, when you get a change. it's just documentation regarding the implementation in the overview_expiring_objects section21:18
mattoliverauman, I can't type today21:18
mattoliveraulet's move on so rledisez can tell us about eventlet battles and losfs :)21:19
mattoliverau#topic LOSF21:19
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mattoliveraurledisez: any updates here, we saw the eventlet bug and patch you talked about last week21:19
mattoliverauclayg looked at it and I think it's even landed already21:20
rledisezso, 3 bugs this week, not all related to losf, but all related to eventlet (one fix merged), the second was in losf (finally was not always called in try/except/finally). last one was in a patch I proposed related to ssync and concurrency21:20
rledisezwe won the 3 battles :D21:20
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rledisezon pure losf side, it' quite calm, alexandre is fixing some bugs we discover from time to time. nothing really serious (aka, it's not eating data), some memory leaks & co21:21
mattoliverau\o/ nice21:21
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mattoliverauno that's good, if your running in prod and it's nice and quite, that sounds like it's getting pretty stable, which is awesome news21:22
mattoliverauFinally block _not_ getting called sounds.. well.. rather broken, wow.21:23
mattoliverauanything the rest of us need to do to help losf's out?21:23
timburkedepends on how hard things fail -- i could *totally* see it not necessarily getting called21:23
timburkeSIGKILL = no finally (for example)21:23
clayg"oh, i'm sorry were you saying something?" -kernel21:24
rledisezthe process was not crashing. alexandre could give you the details, but it was just not calling finally, and was continuing to run the function21:24
mattoliverauwell yeah I guess, but when I'm coding I tend, maybe wrongly, that my finally block would be run :)21:24
claygmattoliverau: yeah i agree sounds wild21:25
claygalex may indeed have to give us the details - without some careful comments it's likely the issue would get re-introduced if we don't have a communal understanding21:25
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claygno to mention raising concerns of other places the same issue might exists 😬21:26
mattoliveraubut I'm sure it'll all be sorted in py3 :P21:26
mattoliverauor go21:26
mattoliveraurledisez: anything else? anywhere we can help?21:27
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rledisezmattoliverau: not for now I think. i'll try to get alex to join the meeting next time so he can gives more updates and ask help if he needs some21:28
mattoliveraulet's move on then.21:28
mattoliverau#topic open discussion21:28
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mattoliverauThe floor is open21:28
mattoliverauanything else to bring up at the meeting, any interesting ideas, problems, patches to highlight21:29
mattoliverauany funning holiday stories.21:29
mattoliverau*funny *sigh*21:30
mattoliverauI really should just give up, go back to bed and start again :P21:30
mattoliverau*chirp* *chirp*21:31
mattoliverauCool, a shorter meeting, we all get an early mark21:31
mattoliveraumeeting ending in...21:31
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mattoliverauthanks all for coming and thanks for working on Swift21:32
mattoliverau^ Post scripted opps21:32
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