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| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| tashiromt | Hi | 04:00 |
| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 04:00:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:01 |
| samP | tpatil: hi | 04:01 |
| samP | tashiromt: hi | 04:01 |
| samP | Let's start | 04:01 |
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| samP | #topic Critical bugs and patches | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical bugs and patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| samP | Any critical bugs or patches need discussion? | 04:02 |
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| tpatil | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621535/ | 04:03 |
| tpatil | Not a critical bug | 04:03 |
| tpatil | Request you to please review this patch | 04:03 |
| samP | Ah, yes | 04:03 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, I will | 04:03 |
| tpatil | I had reviewed it once, then got some minor nits comments which are addressed in the new PS | 04:04 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:04 |
| tpatil | another patch that needs review is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616068/ | 04:04 |
| tpatil | already got one +2 from Sagara | 04:04 |
| samP | tpatil: sorry, I did review this. forgot to approve it.. | 04:05 |
| samP | tpatil: done | 04:05 |
| tpatil | samP: Great, Thanks | 04:06 |
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| samP | kengo updated the following 3 patches, | 04:06 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585625/ | 04:07 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585596/ | 04:07 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585592/ | 04:07 |
| tpatil | Yes, I have review these patches once | 04:07 |
| tpatil | Shilpa is working on the last patch | 04:07 |
| samP | yes, it seems that your comments not addressed in the patch | 04:08 |
| samP | tpatil: About last patch, got it. | 04:08 |
| tpatil | She haven't uploaded these patches yet on the community Gerrit | 04:08 |
| tpatil | All patches will be up for review by end of this week | 04:09 |
| samP | tpatil: if Shilpa's patch lands, no need the last patch 585592? | 04:09 |
| tpatil | Sorry I have mistaken it with the notification API related changes which Shilpa is currently on | 04:11 |
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| samP | tpatil: np. so, last patch is still valid | 04:11 |
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| tpatil | samP: Yes | 04:11 |
| samP | tpatil: OK then, I will review all 3 of them. Please do review them if you have time | 04:12 |
| tpatil | samP: sure | 04:12 |
| samP | There some amount of patches in all repos, about fixing the docs, readme.rst, hacking, and etc. | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | Yes, I will check these patches and review them at my end | 04:16 |
| samP | I would like to propose a change a patch merge policy for those; that single core reviewer can review and merge them | 04:17 |
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| tpatil | +1 | 04:17 |
| samP | most of them contain simple changes. However if you feel that it might need a another look, then feel free to left it with your comment | 04:18 |
| samP | thanks. | 04:18 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:19 |
| samP | any other patches or bugs/ | 04:19 |
| samP | if any please bring them up anytime in this meeting | 04:20 |
| samP | #topic Stein Work Items | 04:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein Work Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:20 | |
| samP | Please share any updates on Stein Work Items | 04:20 |
| tpatil | Recovery workflow events : Not yet started writing specs. Will work on it soon. The last part of checking whether notification uuid can be linked to the taskflow LogBook is done now. | 04:22 |
| tpatil | So now I have all bits that is required to push events during execution of recovery workflow. Based on this info, I will start writing up specs now | 04:23 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:24 |
| tpatil | # link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473057 | 04:26 |
| tpatil | Shilpa is working on implementing the last bits for this spec. All patches should be up for the review by end of this week | 04:26 |
| samP | tpatil: Include update's for spec? | 04:27 |
| tpatil | Also I will request her to propose specs against Stein release | 04:28 |
| ShilpaSD | shilpa: tpatil: yes will do that | 04:28 |
| samP | ShilpaSD: Thanks. | 04:29 |
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| samP | Any other updates? | 04:30 |
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| tpatil | No | 04:32 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:32 |
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| tashiromt | Nothing from my side and I will check the new policy | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: tashiromt: thanks | 04:33 |
| tpatil | https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1803610 | 04:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803610 in masakari "masakari installl docs are not published" [Undecided,New] | 04:33 |
| tpatil | This bug is reported recently. I will check it and find out how we can improve installation doc | 04:34 |
| samP | tpatil: Thanks. Bug is very valid. We have some instructions on how to do that for devs but not for production | 04:35 |
| samP | tpatil: Could you please update the bug report with your progress or plans? | 04:38 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:38 |
| samP | tpatil: thank you. | 04:38 |
| samP | About my personal schedule, I will be out of the country for new year vacation from 2018/12/29 - 2019/01/20 | 04:39 |
| samP | During that time, I will try connect time to time at my best. | 04:40 |
| samP | I will be there for do the Stein-2 milestone release, which will be on 2019/1/10 week | 04:41 |
| tpatil | I will be on vacation as well from 2018/12/24 -2019/01/07 | 04:41 |
| samP | During that time best way to contact me is send a email to sam47priya@gmail.com | 04:42 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. | 04:42 |
| samP | I will send these info to ML also. | 04:43 |
| tashiromt | samP: OK, thanks | 04:43 |
| samP | if nothing else to share, I wold like to end the meeting. | 04:43 |
| tpatil | samP: No more updates from my end | 04:43 |
| samP | tpatil: tashiromt: thank you | 04:45 |
| samP | Thank you all for your time. | 04:45 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 04:45:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-12-11-04.00.html | 04:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-12-11-04.00.txt | 04:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-12-11-04.00.log.html | 04:45 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 16:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 16:00 |
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| * haleyb is in another meeting if he gets unresponsive | 16:01 | |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
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| slaweq | lets wait few more minutes for njohnston hongbin and others | 16:02 |
| njohnston | we may also want sean-k-mooney for this one but I don't think he is in channel | 16:03 |
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| slaweq | ok, lets start | 16:04 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:04 | |
| slaweq | mlavalle to change trunk scenario test and see if that will help with FIP issues | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | I pushed a patch yesterday | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624271/ | 16:05 |
| bcafarel | late hi o/ | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | I need to investigate what the results are | 16:05 |
| slaweq | looks that this didn't solve problem: http://logs.openstack.org/71/624271/1/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/a125b91/testr_results.html.gz | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | I'll still take a closer look | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | and will continue investigating the bug in gneral | 16:07 |
| slaweq | maybe there is some issue with timeouts there - those tests are using advaced image IIRC so it may be that it's trying ssh too short time | 16:07 |
| slaweq | ? | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | the lifecycle scenario doesn't use advanced image | 16:08 |
| slaweq | #action mlavalle will continue debugging trunk tests failures in multinode dvr env | 16:08 |
| slaweq | ahh, right - only one of tests is using adv image | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | you know what on second thought we don't know if it worked | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | becasue the test case that failed was the other one | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | not the lifecycle one | 16:09 |
| slaweq | in this example both tests failed | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | I'll investigate | 16:09 |
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| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 16:10 |
| slaweq | lets move on | 16:10 |
| slaweq | njohnston will remove neutron-grenade from neutron ci queues and add comment why definition of job is still needed | 16:10 |
| njohnston | So the feedback I got from the QA team is that they would rather we keep neutron-grenade, as they want to keep py2 grenade testing | 16:11 |
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| njohnston | they consider it part of the minimum level of testing needed until we officially stop supporting py2 | 16:11 |
| slaweq | ok | 16:12 |
| slaweq | so we can consider this point from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_ci_python3 as done, right? | 16:12 |
| njohnston | yes | 16:13 |
| njohnston | I was waiting for us to talk about it in the meeting before marking it | 16:13 |
| slaweq | I just marked it as done in etherpad then | 16:14 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston | 16:14 |
| njohnston | thanks | 16:14 |
| slaweq | one more question | 16:14 |
| slaweq | is it only py2 based grenade job which QA wants still to have? or should we keep all grenade jobs with py2 too? | 16:15 |
| slaweq | do You know? | 16:15 |
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| njohnston | They want grenad eto cover both py2 and py3, so we should have both - the same way we have unit tests for both | 16:15 |
| slaweq | so we should "duplicate" all our grenade jobs then to have py2 and py3 variants for each | 16:16 |
| slaweq | probably more rechecks but ok :) | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 16:17 |
| njohnston | Sorry, I was not specific enough. I think they want at least one grenade for py3 and py2 each. I don't think we need a full matrix. | 16:17 |
| njohnston | So we should have grenade-py3 and neutron-grenade... but for example neutron-grenade-multinode-dvr could be just on py3 and they would be fine | 16:18 |
| slaweq | ok, so we already have neutron-grenade (py2) and grenade-py3 (py3) jobs | 16:18 |
| slaweq | so we can just switch neutron-grenade-dvr-multinode and neutron-grenade-multinode to py3 now? | 16:19 |
| njohnston | yes. I proposed a 'grenade-multinode-py3' job in the grenade repo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622612/ | 16:19 |
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| njohnston | I thought that we could use that perhaps, and then it becomes available for other projects | 16:20 |
| slaweq | ok, now it's clear | 16:20 |
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| slaweq | thx njohnston for working on this | 16:20 |
| njohnston | np | 16:20 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on then | 16:20 |
| slaweq | slaweq to continue debugging bug 1798475 | 16:20 |
| openstack | bug 1798475 in neutron "Fullstack test test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost failing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798475 | 16:20 |
| slaweq | unfortunatelly I didn't have too much time to work on it last week | 16:20 |
| slaweq | I lost few days because of sick leave :/ | 16:21 |
| slaweq | I will try to check it this week | 16:21 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to continue debugging bug 1798475 | 16:21 |
| openstack | bug 1798475 in neutron "Fullstack test test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost failing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798475 | 16:21 |
| slaweq | next one | 16:21 |
| slaweq | slaweq to continue fixing funtional-py3 tests | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | feeling better now? | 16:21 |
| hongbin | o/ | 16:21 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes, thx. It's much better | 16:22 |
| slaweq | hi hongbin | 16:22 |
| hongbin | slaweq: sorry, a bit late today | 16:22 |
| slaweq | so according to functional py3 tests, I was playing with it a bit during the weekend | 16:22 |
| slaweq | I tried to disable all warnings in python and so on but it still didn't help | 16:23 |
| slaweq | issue is probably caused by capturing stderr, like e.g.: http://logs.openstack.org/83/577383/17/check/neutron-functional/2907d2b/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-12-10_11_06_04_272396 | 16:23 |
| slaweq | but: | 16:24 |
| slaweq | 1. I don't know how to get rid of it | 16:25 |
| slaweq | 2. I'm not sure if that's good idea to get rid of it because I'm not sure if that comes from test which failed or from test which actually passed | 16:25 |
| slaweq | if anyone has any idea how to fix this issue - feel free to take it :) | 16:26 |
| njohnston | I am at a loss for what the best course forward is | 16:26 |
| slaweq | if not I will assign it to myself for next week and will try to continue work on it | 16:26 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to continue fixing funtional-py3 tests | 16:27 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 16:27 |
| slaweq | njohnston to research py3 conversion for neutron grenade multinode jobs | 16:27 |
| njohnston | I think we covered that before | 16:27 |
| slaweq | I think we alread talked about it :) | 16:27 |
| slaweq | yes, thx njohnston | 16:27 |
| slaweq | so next one | 16:28 |
| slaweq | slaweq to update etherpad with what is already converted to py3 | 16:28 |
| slaweq | I updated etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_ci_python3 today | 16:28 |
| bcafarel | on functional tests, maybe worth sending a ML post, maybe some other projects would have an idea there | 16:28 |
| bcafarel | (strange that it's only us getting hit by this "log limit") | 16:28 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: good idea, I will send email today | 16:28 |
| slaweq | basiacally we still need to convert most of tempest jobs, grenade, rally and functional | 16:30 |
| slaweq | for rally I proposed patch https://review.openstack.org/624358 | 16:30 |
| slaweq | lets wait for results of CI now | 16:30 |
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| slaweq | so etherpad is updated, if someone wants to help, feel free to propose patches for jobs which are still waiting :) | 16:31 |
| slaweq | ok, and the last action was: | 16:32 |
| slaweq | hongbin to report and check failing neutron.tests.fullstack.test_l3_agent.TestHAL3Agent.test_gateway_ip_changed test | 16:32 |
| hongbin | i have to postponse this one since i am still figuring out how to setup the envirnoment for testing | 16:32 |
| njohnston | sean-k-mooney: thanks for joining, we'll talk about CI issues in a moment | 16:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | njohnston: no worries | 16:33 |
| slaweq | hongbin: ok, ping me if I You will need any help | 16:33 |
| hongbin | slaweq: thanks, will do | 16:33 |
| slaweq | I will assign it as an action for next week, ok? | 16:34 |
| hongbin | sure | 16:34 |
| slaweq | #action hongbin to report and check failing neutron.tests.fullstack.test_l3_agent.TestHAL3Agent.test_gateway_ip_changed test | 16:34 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on then | 16:34 |
| slaweq | #topic Python 3 | 16:34 |
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| slaweq | we already talked about grenade-jobs | 16:34 |
| slaweq | I only wanted to mention this patch for neutron-rally job: https://review.openstack.org/624358 | 16:35 |
| slaweq | and also I sent today patch https://review.openstack.org/624360 to remove tempest-full job as we have tempest-full-py3 already | 16:35 |
| slaweq | so I think that we don't need both of them | 16:36 |
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| slaweq | anything else You want to talk about njohnston, bcafarel? | 16:36 |
| njohnston | nope, I think that covers it | 16:37 |
| bcafarel | same here | 16:37 |
| slaweq | ok, so let's move on then | 16:37 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:37 | |
| slaweq | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:37 |
| njohnston | looks like failure rate on neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid job has gone from 8% at 0930UTC to 46% at 1620UTC | 16:38 |
| njohnston | http://grafana.openstack.org/d/Hj5IHcSmz/neutron-failure-rate?orgId=1&panelId=18&fullscreen&from=now%2Fd&to=now%2Fd | 16:38 |
| njohnston | sean-k-mooney was looking into it and how it might be related to pyroute2 | 16:38 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yes, and I think that this is what sean-k-mooney has culprit for, right? | 16:38 |
| njohnston | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-vif/+bug/1807949 | 16:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1807949 in os-vif "os_vif error: [Errno 24] Too many open files" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney) | 16:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | so i that breaking on all build or jsut some | 16:39 |
| njohnston | just the neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid it looks like | 16:39 |
| slaweq | sean-k-mooney: is it this error: http://logs.openstack.org/60/624360/1/check/neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid/a6a4a0a/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=ERROR#_Dec_11_15_10_54_319285 ? | 16:41 |
| njohnston | I am wondering if we should make neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid non-voting while we figure this out, or blacklist this version of os-vif.... | 16:41 |
| haleyb | we already had to blacklist 0.12.0... | 16:42 |
| njohnston | based on the 24-hour-rolling-average nature of grafana lines I think a rise this rapid means we may have an effective 100% failure rate at the moment | 16:42 |
| slaweq | sean-k-mooney: do You know why it may happen only in this job? | 16:42 |
| slaweq | I don't see any such error e.g. in tempest-full job logs (at least this which I'm checking now) | 16:43 |
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| njohnston | I did not see that error in the neutron-tempest-linuxbridge jobs I spot-checked | 16:43 |
| njohnston | (as another datapoint) | 16:44 |
| slaweq | that is strange for me, the only thing which is "special" for neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid is iptables_hybrid firewall driver instead of openvswitch driver | 16:46 |
| slaweq | how this may trigger such error? | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | I think sean-k-mmoney is not on-line anymore | 16:49 |
| slaweq | ok, I think that we should check if happens 100% times in this job, if so, we should, as njohnston said, mark this job as non-voting temporary and then try to investigate it | 16:49 |
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| slaweq | do You agree? | 16:49 |
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| mlavalle | yes | 16:49 |
| hongbin | +1 | 16:49 |
| njohnston | +1 | 16:49 |
| slaweq | ok, I will check tomorrow morning grafana and will send a patch to set as non-voting this job | 16:50 |
| njohnston | should we send something to the ML asking people not to recheck if the failure is in iptables_hybrid? | 16:50 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to switch neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid job as non-voting if it will be failing a lot because of bug 1807949 | 16:51 |
| openstack | bug 1807949 in os-vif "os_vif error: [Errno 24] Too many open files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1807949 - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney) | 16:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | hi sorry got disconnected | 16:51 |
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| slaweq | njohnston: yes, I will send an email | 16:51 |
| bcafarel | I think I just did :/ (though there was a rally timeout too) | 16:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | ill join the neutorn channel after to discuss the pyroute2 issue | 16:52 |
| slaweq | ok, so sean-k-mooney - we will mark our job neutron-tempest-iptables_hybrid mark as non-voting if it will be failing 100% times becaise of this issue | 16:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok | 16:53 |
| slaweq | so we will have more time to investigate this :) | 16:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | thanks :) | 16:53 |
| slaweq | thx for helping with this :) | 16:54 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 16:54 |
| slaweq | today I went through our list of issues in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ci-failures | 16:54 |
| slaweq | and I wanted to find 3 which happens most often | 16:54 |
| slaweq | one of problems which hits as the most is still this issue in db migrations in functional tests: | 16:55 |
| slaweq | which happens many times | 16:55 |
| slaweq | and which is in my backlog | 16:55 |
| slaweq | but maybe we should mark those tests as unstable for now? | 16:56 |
| slaweq | what do You think? | 16:56 |
| bcafarel | sounds reasonable, I did see this db migration issue a few times recently | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I'm ok with that | 16:56 |
| njohnston | it is a persistent bugaboo yes | 16:57 |
| slaweq | ok, I will do that then | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | we will continue trying to fix it, right? | 16:57 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: of course | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:57 |
| slaweq | I even have card for it in our trello, I just need some time | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | yeah, if it is getting in the way, let's mark it unstable | 16:57 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to mark db migration tests as unstable for now | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | thanks slaweq | 16:58 |
| slaweq | other issues which I found were: | 16:58 |
| slaweq | 1. issues with cinder volume backup timeouts - I will try to ping cinder guys again with it | 16:58 |
| slaweq | 2. various issues with FIP connectivity - it's not same test/job always, only common part is that ssh to fip is not working | 16:59 |
| slaweq | if someone wants to debug it more, I can send list of jobs which failed because of that :) | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | send it to me | 16:59 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: ok, thx | 16:59 |
| slaweq | we have to finish now | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx for attending guys | 17:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 17:00:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-12-11-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | o/ | 17:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-12-11-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | I hope El Comandante shows some mercy during next week's meeting if I didn't fix it yet by then | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-12-11-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | /close | 17:00 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: no way :P | 17:01 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: LOL | 17:01 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: or maybe only little mercy because of Christmas :P | 17:02 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 17:02 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: but I can't lost my reputation ;) | 17:02 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: that's true, you have to be consistently mean | 17:02 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: LOL | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | anyone here for the ifnra meeting? | 19:00 |
| clarkb | we'll get started in a minute | 19:00 |
| corvus | oh, sorry, i was looking for the infra meeting | 19:00 |
| clarkb | you've found it (you'll have to excuse my inability to type) | 19:01 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 19:01:37 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| gary_perkins | Hi! o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| clarkb | my phone reminded me to send the agenda out 24 hours in advance | 19:02 |
| fungi | thanks again for curating the agenda and announcing it in advance! | 19:02 |
| clarkb | hopefully that will become useful as I do it regularly | 19:02 |
| Shrews | yay phones | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | Looking at a calendar Christmas and New Years fall on Tuesdays. I expect that means for many of us that the 18th will be our last meeting of the year and January 8th will be the first of 2019 | 19:04 |
| clarkb | I've gone ahead and written down that I don't expect we'll have meetings on December 25 or January 1. | 19:04 |
| fungi | those seem pretty likely | 19:05 |
| fungi | i could be around for at least one of those, but best if i'm not | 19:05 |
| clarkb | I'll be traveling on the 20th to 28th myself so don't expect me around much for those two tuesdays :) | 19:05 |
| clarkb | tl;dr is everyone should enjoy their time off if they get it | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-12-04-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/622624 and parent/child changes provide initial opendev.org website content | 19:07 |
| clarkb | I think I've got that to a point where we can hopefully publish something | 19:07 |
| clarkb | html and css are not something you would seek me out for so feedback on that or followups to make it better much appreciated | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:inner-ara-results ianw and dmsimard still looking for review on nested ara for system-config ci jobs | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:fedora29 ianw looking for fedora29 (and associated networkmanager support in glean) change review | 19:08 |
| clarkb | these two items were sort of an implied please review these changes action for the group | 19:08 |
| ianw | please ... some interesting things are getting stuck behind it now | 19:08 |
| clarkb | I've gone through the stacks and they seem ready. Mostly just need sanity check from another infra-root (but non infra-root reviews/input also appreciated0 | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | #topic Specs | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/623033 OpenDev Repo Hosting Rework Spec | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/607377 Storyboard Attachements | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/581214 Anomaly Detection in CI Logs | 19:10 |
| clarkb | these are three infra specs that I expect will end up driving a bunch of work in the new year. As things wind down this year please take a look at them and provide input too | 19:10 |
| clarkb | I don't think any are ready for approval just yet, but eyeballs appreciated | 19:11 |
| clarkb | corvus: any idea if you expect the opendev spec to be ready for approval soon? | 19:11 |
| clarkb | the storyboard attachments spec is close. | 19:12 |
| corvus | clarkb: yes... | 19:12 |
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| * diablo_rojo_phon sneaks in at mention of storyboard from KubeCon | 19:12 | |
| fungi | diablo_rojo_phon should mention storyboard at KubeCon | 19:13 |
| corvus | clarkb: mordred said to me "i bet we can run gitea with cephfs in kubernetes" and i've gone down a rabbit hole with that | 19:13 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo_phon: mostly just mentioning that the attachments spec appears near ready. Next week will be the last infra meeting so maybe we put it up for approval at that meeting then approve first week of 2019? | 19:13 |
| corvus | clarkb: i'm trying to see if i can drop in a fully-formed suggestion on how we could run gitea in the next revision. if i fail, i'll just leave it hand-wavey on how we'll implement it. | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | corvus: ok | 19:14 |
| corvus | it's certainly runnable in the way we currently run things, so it's not a big deal. | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | clarkb: I'll try to get jhesketh 's comments addressed before next meeting so we can get it merged hopefully before then | 19:14 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:14 | |
| fungi | corvus: is gitea/other critical for moving forward on gerrit? what stops us from sticking with cgit until we get that sorted? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:14 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Priority Efforts | 19:14 |
| fungi | sorry! | 19:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think its mostly people being allergic to the cgit web ui | 19:15 |
| fungi | we can also probably just cover it in the review | 19:15 |
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| corvus | fungi: i'd like to know the whole canonical url story before we do that move | 19:15 |
| clarkb | and ya gitea (or other tools) fit into ^ | 19:15 |
| fungi | good point, though we _can_ make cgit coexist with clone urls from smart backend too | 19:15 |
| corvus | fungi: like, "okay, everyone change to git.opendev.org/openstack/nova". "okay, now everyone change again to opendev.org/openstack/nova" | 19:15 |
| corvus | that would be bad :) | 19:15 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:16 | |
| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:16 | |
| corvus | it's possible that actual implementation is still separable, but i'd like to know the end state to be certain about that. | 19:16 |
| clarkb | (sorry for moving things along but I think we have a fairly full agenda and those details will likely come out of running it in test and spec review/updates, I do like the idea of knowing more about what it looks like though) | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | diablo_rojo_phon: is there a database migration etherpad for storyboard yet? I think I was supposed to dig one of the examples for gerrit? | 19:17 |
| fungi | eumel8 is getting started on webclient translations | 19:17 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/623508 | 19:17 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo_phon: if you want to create even a stub etherpad url then fungi or myself can start adding info there that will probably help | 19:17 |
| fungi | i posted a puppet change to get started on the db stuff last week, yeah. needs another reviewer | 19:17 |
| fungi | i doubt we need a more detailed migration plan, after i dug into it | 19:18 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/623290 Run a local MySQL service on StoryBoard servers | 19:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: meaning you think we can forego the etherpad? are you planning on driving that migration then ? (I mostly saw it as a way of communicating to $root what needed to be done) | 19:19 |
| fungi | honestly we just need to try it on the -dev server first, but outage while the db is dumped and loaded (it'll be under a minute) and then changing the database hostname in hiera | 19:19 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 19:19 |
| fungi | and then there's a followup change to fix backups afterward | 19:19 |
| fungi | it dawned on me that this is already how we do local and ci testing of storyboard | 19:20 |
| fungi | the puppet module defaults to this particular deployment model already | 19:20 |
| clarkb | sounds like we just need an infra root volunteer then? | 19:20 |
| fungi | we've been overriding it in system-config so that we could do trove | 19:20 |
| clarkb | (test on -dev, then schedule short outage on production and do the switch tehre) | 19:21 |
| fungi | i volunteer to do the rest of it unless someone else is interested, and then happy to help guide as needed | 19:21 |
| clarkb | great and thank you | 19:21 |
| clarkb | one thing that may end up being related is storyboard servers are running trusty. Perhaops this is an opportunity to upgrade to xenail (if we have to take an outage anyway) | 19:21 |
| fungi | a great idea | 19:22 |
| fungi | i think we already test against xenial too (for what testing sb does have anyway), but will double-check that | 19:22 |
| clarkb | #action fungi migrate to on host db server on storyboard instances unless someone else is interested | 19:22 |
| fungi | confirmed, we puppet test its deployment on xenial already | 19:23 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:23 |
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| clarkb | We seem to have slowed down a bit around this with the other fires going on (slow gates, zuul updates to try and be more fair around that etc) | 19:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: Any progress on a script to generate a static config dynamically? | 19:24 |
| fungi | i was talking to smarcet in #-infra earlier today about php versions and we concluded that this is likely a good time to upgrade the openstackid servers to xenial | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | corvus did end up deploying a new zuul executor with the static inventory in place. One thing that we learned from that is we don't get the post puppet reboot automatically anymore | 19:25 |
| clarkb | which for servers that use HWE kernels and/or AFS this may be required | 19:25 |
| ianw | clarkb: i saw a review for that | 19:25 |
| fungi | (though he needs the php version from bionic and is likely going to end up using a semi-official backport ppa of that on xenial for now) | 19:25 |
| clarkb | corvus: other than that smallish hiccup it seems that working with static inventory isn't a big pain? | 19:25 |
| corvus | clarkb: no, pretty simple | 19:25 |
| corvus | i don't think the lack of a tool is a big problem right now; | 19:26 |
| ianw | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622964/ -- i had on my todo to run it before voting actually | 19:26 |
| corvus | i think a tiny change to launch-node to output the inventory snippet would be nice. | 19:26 |
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| corvus | or that | 19:26 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622964/ dynamic generation of static inventory | 19:26 |
| fungi | yeah, we were chatting about that. soonish we're probably going to want to output a dns zone update snippet too so having that fits | 19:27 |
| corvus | i think both would be nice. | 19:27 |
| clarkb | corvus: ++ | 19:27 |
| corvus | output the snippet for a quick delta; script for full reconciliation. | 19:27 |
| clarkb | our ansible and puppetry do seem to be a fair bit more stable now too | 19:27 |
| fungi | anybody know what our round-trip time is on a full run these days? still in the 30-45min range? | 19:28 |
| clarkb | http://grafana.openstack.org/d/qzQ_v2oiz/bridge-runtime?orgId=1 says just under 25 minutes? that seems low | 19:29 |
| clarkb | oh except now that we don't have to do all the jinja2 expansion that may be accurate | 19:29 |
| fungi | oh! i missed we were statsd'ing that | 19:29 |
| clarkb | fungi: ianw did the work on that | 19:29 |
| fungi | that's right, now i remember. thanks again ianw!~ | 19:29 |
| fungi | most awesome | 19:30 |
| clarkb | any progress on docker things? | 19:30 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ | 19:30 |
| ianw | in a word ... no | 19:30 |
| corvus | mordred updated the patch | 19:30 |
| fungi | no progress is good progress? ;) | 19:30 |
| clarkb | corvus: ah ok, I'll have to rereview it then | 19:30 |
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| corvus | i think the update addressed the review comments about testing iptables | 19:31 |
| corvus | it's now failing tests: https://review.openstack.org/605585 | 19:31 |
| clarkb | seems to fail testing but we can dig into that | 19:31 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605585 docker usage prep change. Fails tests currently but we should fix those tests and get this in when ready | 19:32 |
| clarkb | Anything else related to config management updates before we move into the general topics? | 19:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: you did end up helping cmurphy with the kata lists puppet update? | 19:32 |
| clarkb | if that happened we can likely continue rolling up the puppet4 parser list | 19:32 |
| fungi | yes, it merged, nothing changed, we're good there | 19:33 |
| clarkb | cool I'll have to take a look and see if I can help get any more of the future parser changes in | 19:33 |
| fungi | more evidence of cmurphy's awesomeness | 19:33 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | Starting with OpenDev just a reminder to check out corvus' spec around git hosting for opendev and my website content change that were noted earlier in the meeting | 19:34 |
| clarkb | Also considering this has become a standing topic and is a big effort I'd like to make this a priority effort (I think this was mentioned before) | 19:34 |
| clarkb | I'll push up changes for that later today, but if you have objections to doing that feel free to let me/us know here or PM/email me | 19:35 |
| clarkb | corvus: I figure we can use your spec for that data recording on the specs repo side? | 19:35 |
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| corvus | clarkb: i'm having trouble parsing that | 19:35 |
| clarkb | (since it gives a concrete set of work to prioritize) | 19:35 |
| corvus | clarkb: use my spec for indicating opendev is priority effort? yes | 19:36 |
| clarkb | corvus: we list priority efforts as being attached to specs. Rather than write a nebulous opendev spec I like the idea of attaching priority to concrete work items (as in your spec) | 19:36 |
| clarkb | great | 19:36 |
| fungi | i rather think opendev is what we're doing. specs related to that are priority efforts on their own | 19:37 |
| fungi | and corvus's gerrit/git spec already proposes itself as such | 19:37 |
| clarkb | yup | 19:37 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 19:37 |
| clarkb | Next on the list of general topics was I wanted to remind people that upgrading trusty servers is still valuable. I know we've got a few irons in the fire for this between upgrading to xenial on puppet, running ansible only servers as with dns servers, and switching some service to docker | 19:38 |
| cmurphy | this could use a recheck when an infra-root has time to babysit https://review.openstack.org/615656 | 19:38 |
| clarkb | cmurphy: noted thanks | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/201808-infra-server-upgrades-and-cleanup has a list of servers that need attention if you can grab one or two please update that list | 19:39 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks. i think as mentioned earlier in the meeting the sb and openstackid servers are good next candidates | 19:39 |
| clarkb | I'm hoping to get to pbx this week | 19:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: yup | 19:39 |
| fungi | so maybe those drop off the list rsn | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | We have until roughly april to get off trusty. Xenial will eol in 2021 so even Xenial gives us a bit of breathing room | 19:39 |
| clarkb | (then bionic will have 10 years of support) | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | The last item on the general topics list has to do with how we use github. Specially admin account setup | 19:41 |
| clarkb | our documents have long said we should use a secondary admin only github account, but I don't believe we ever enforced that | 19:41 |
| clarkb | Additionally gentoo found (the hard way) that two factor auth with github reduces its ability to be a shiny target for not so nice people | 19:41 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620702/ | 19:42 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620703/ | 19:42 |
| clarkb | I proposed two changes to kick off some discussion on this. Basically would we be opposed to requiring github 2fa on those accounts and should we enforce that we set up a second admin account or relax that rule given practice? | 19:42 |
| fungi | two-factor auth saved gentoo from github compromise? or they merely speculate that _if_ they'd required it they wouldn't have had their accounts hacked? | 19:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: the speculation is that 2fa would have prevented the compromise | 19:43 |
| clarkb | and they now require it for all of their github accounts | 19:43 |
| fungi | i assumed so, your earlier point merely seemed to imply the other | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | I've run with a hardware token second factor auth on github for about a year now and haven't found ti to be particularly troublesome. It helps that much of the day to day interaction with github is via ssh (whcih doesn't 2fa) | 19:44 |
| clarkb | they support totp whcih you can run generators for on android or via linux command line as well | 19:44 |
| fungi | related to this, while the hope under new opendevery is that we can stop caring about needing github credentials for openstack and similar orgs, we do still apparently need them to manage the zuul app/widget/thingy | 19:45 |
| ianw | personally i barely use it and would be happy with a shared account | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ya we might manage fewer repo mirrors, but would still have things like the zuul app install in github | 19:45 |
| ianw | but, if the key for the 2fa is with the password, it's not much of a 2fa i guess | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ianw: thats a good point. I think ssh is limited in the scope of what it can do, but still dangerous :) | 19:46 |
| corvus | ssh is arguably 2 factor. it's at least 1.5. depends on how you're characterizing threat vectors (turs out "factors" aren't really one-size-fits-all) | 19:47 |
| corvus | i should say, ssh with a password-protected key | 19:47 |
| corvus | (which should go without saying, but...) | 19:47 |
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| corvus | anyway, that's beside the point :) | 19:48 |
| ianw | if we consider ssh 2fa as commutative to github 2fa then i'd probably vote for the shared account with a setup on bridge to get the totp token | 19:48 |
| clarkb | ianw: oh thats another possibility too. Which is that we use a shared account | 19:48 |
| fungi | if someone compromises bridge we've got bigger problems on our hands than github creds anyway | 19:49 |
| clarkb | possibilities: Keep using personal account, use new second personal admin only accounts, use shared admin account. * apply 2fa | 19:49 |
| corvus | if we want 2fa on the github accounts, i'll definitely need a second github account. | 19:49 |
| ianw | it's just github does a pretty bad job at separating things, i think. which means if you have openstack in your account it pollutes all your notifications etc if you use it for "real" work | 19:49 |
| clarkb | ianw: yup, so a second account may be desireable anyway | 19:50 |
| ianw | i can take an action item to make a shared account, and see if there's a practical way to have the token working on bridge. if it all looks good, we can then give it permission | 19:50 |
| clarkb | ianw: do you have a preference to shared account over second personal account? I guess organizationally its less for each individual to manage | 19:51 |
| fungi | i'm happy to drop all privs for my personal gh account i use to submit the occasional pr or file an issue on some random project, and use a shared account on bridge.o.o (perhaps with a 2fa tool installed there) | 19:51 |
| clarkb | #action ianw investigate practicality of shared github account (with possible 2fa) | 19:51 |
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| ianw | i'm thinking if i'm setting up a second personal account, it gets confusing as to which one's me, and then i also have to manage two github secrets etc | 19:52 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya | 19:52 |
| fungi | also, worth noting, we've been generally sloppy about remembering to add infra-root folk to the orgs we have in gh, or remove the ones who retire | 19:52 |
| ianw | considering how much i use it (never) shared account seems better imo | 19:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: thats a good point too. I like the idea of shared creds the more we talk about it | 19:52 |
| clarkb | this seems like a great next step, thank you ianw for volunteering to check it out | 19:52 |
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| clarkb | and with that I'll open the floor | 19:53 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | corvus: I saw these at powells the other day https://www.powells.com/book/-659549220242 | 19:55 |
| clarkb | if we're left with book shopping things then I should probably end the meeting | 19:56 |
| corvus | ha nice! | 19:56 |
| clarkb | Thank you everyone. Reminder we'll meet next week then take a two week break for holidays. | 19:56 |
| clarkb | Find us in the infra channel or on the infra mailing list if you have other questions, concerns, thoughts issues, etc | 19:56 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 19:56:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-12-11-19.01.html | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-12-11-19.01.txt | 19:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-12-11-19.01.log.html | 19:57 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 19:57 |
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| martial__ | Hello team | 21:00 |
| janders | g'day | 21:01 |
| martial__ | We have a scientific sig meeting scheduled | 21:01 |
| martial__ | With an open agenda | 21:01 |
| martial__ | #startmeeting Scientific-sig | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Dec 11 21:01:46 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:01 |
| martial__ | Opening the floor | 21:02 |
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| janders | who's around today? It seems like things are getting quiet moving towards xmas.. | 21:04 |
| martial__ | it is indeed usually the case | 21:04 |
| martial__ | Stig and Blair are not able to join, so I offered to run an open meeting | 21:04 |
| janders | great! :) | 21:04 |
| martial__ | if there is a topic you want to cover or info you want to share, please let us know | 21:05 |
| janders | I don't have a whole lot of stuff to update on - working on training & procurement | 21:05 |
| janders | one thing I've been thinking of / looking into recently is BeeGFS - OpenStack integration | 21:05 |
| janders | it seems to me it's a very promising area, but with little work done so far | 21:06 |
| janders | do you have any experience or thoughts on this? | 21:06 |
| martial__ | I know this has been discussed recently in the channel | 21:07 |
| martial__ | let me find the link | 21:07 |
| martial__ | BeeGFS [...] met them at SC18. Them and OpenIP seemed interesting to look into, so putting it out here https://www.enterprisetech.com/2018/11/29/move-over-lustre-spectrum-scale-here-comes-beegfs/ | 21:07 |
| janders | that's right - we (CSIRO) even got a mention :) | 21:08 |
| martial__ | not sure if this link was taken from a Scientific SIG conversation | 21:08 |
| martial__ | looks like it was from here then :) | 21:08 |
| martial__ | not much more from my end on this subject yet | 21:09 |
| janders | would you see value in going down this path in the future? | 21:10 |
| janders | from my perspective, BeeGFS is set to be Ceph equivalent for High Performance Cloud workloads | 21:10 |
| janders | it's an opportunity, but whether it translates into success depends on thinkparq's interest and update from people like us | 21:10 |
| janders | s/update/uptake | 21:11 |
| martial__ | not sure, Stig mentioned something in ... October about doing some test | 21:11 |
| martial__ | Oct 2nd log `We did a little testing on resource footprint with hyperconverged (non-containerised) on bare metal. I think the containers could work.` `On the extreme bandwidth topic, one of our team has been getting really great numbers from BeeGFS at scale recently. Servers with NVME and dual OPA exceeding 21GBytes/s for reads. Yeee-ha` | 21:12 |
| janders | regarding our BeeGFS work - I can't say too much yet (will be happy to share when it's complete) but we're somewhere around 80% efficiency in terms of BeeGFS being able to utilise the performance of the underlying hardware | 21:12 |
| janders | I think we're roughly around the same mark - which is not unexpected given we're using very similar hardware | 21:13 |
| martial__ | seems pretty good indeed | 21:14 |
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| janders | the guys in Cambridge are doing excellent work trailblazing on the topic of ultra-high-performance BeeGFS, we're following closely here at CSIRO :) | 21:14 |
| janders | I believe there'll be Cambridge-DELL whitepaper on the topic out soon, looking forward to reading it | 21:15 |
| janders | ok - so that's really the only thing I had - other than BeeGFS is all training and procurement | 21:15 |
| janders | 80% of my team is away doing a mix of different courses, so not much engineering happening | 21:16 |
| janders | how are things on your end Martial? | 21:17 |
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| martial__ | doing good, working on a K8s deplpoyment over kubespray on top of OpenStack kolla-ansible | 21:19 |
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| janders | I don't think I've looked at kubespray before - quickly checked it out, looks very cool | 21:20 |
| janders | if it's k8s + ansible I already like it :) | 21:21 |
| martial__ | very simple to deploy a k8s | 21:21 |
| martial__ | so if you have an OpenStack project you have a private network | 21:21 |
| martial__ | and you just deploy a private k8s on that private network | 21:21 |
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| martial__ | very cool for quick testing | 21:22 |
| martial__ | and prototyping | 21:22 |
| janders | excellent! | 21:22 |
| martial__ | (and yes there is an kubernetes-ansible :) ) | 21:22 |
| janders | can it be made work for larger scale production deployments, or is it focusing specifically on PoC/prototyping? | 21:22 |
| martial__ | you can make large deployments with it | 21:22 |
| janders | https://github.com/kubernetes/contrib/tree/master/ansible | 21:23 |
| martial__ | OpenStack-Kolla+O-K-Ansible is how we are starting to move our OpenStack deplopyments | 21:23 |
| janders | Kubernetes Ansible DEPRECATED: See repo https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/kubespray | 21:23 |
| janders | am I looking at the right repo? | 21:23 |
| janders | things are moving so quickly in this field it's sometimes hard to keep track | 21:24 |
| martial__ | weird, we are using it in prod | 21:24 |
| janders | from this it seems k8s-ansible turned into kubespray - does this sound possible, or am I getting confused? :) | 21:24 |
| martial__ | check https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/kubespray | 21:24 |
| janders | is openstack-kolla using lxc or docker for the control plane containers? | 21:26 |
| martial__ | docker | 21:26 |
| janders | great! | 21:26 |
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| janders | are openstack-kolla and kolla-ansible very different? | 21:27 |
| janders | or are these different pieces to the same puzzle? | 21:27 |
| martial__ | kolla creates the containers | 21:31 |
| martial__ | kolla-ansible is for deployment of said containers | 21:31 |
| martial__ | (sorry a couple people in the room asking me questions) | 21:31 |
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| janders | ok - so same pieces to the puzzle :) | 21:33 |
| janders | are you running your control plane containers on docker/standalone or k8s? | 21:33 |
| janders | we'll likely be standalone in the first iteration of the production system, but it's an interesting one - I wonder how others do it | 21:34 |
| martial__ | we do docker standalone | 21:35 |
| martial__ | once I have a project, I deploy a k8s using kubespray on created VMs | 21:35 |
| janders | do you reqiure multi-tenancy in the k8s layer? | 21:36 |
| martial__ | not for the experiment I am running | 21:36 |
| martial__ | one project, one user | 21:36 |
| janders | understood | 21:37 |
| janders | I had some interesting discussions with Red Hat guys in Berlin about multi-tenant k8s/ocp on OpenStack which I need to follow up | 21:37 |
| janders | Rocky brings improvements in this field but IMHO it's still lacking a couple features before being ready to be used in anger | 21:38 |
| janders | Kuryr seems to be finally doing something useful, but it's lacking mapping of OpenStack tenants to k8s tenants AFAIK | 21:38 |
| janders | so I think taking a focused approach like yours has potential of saving quite a few headaches :) | 21:39 |
| martial__ | works for my tailored need indeed :) | 21:39 |
| martial__ | seems that we managed to talk about a few topics here today after all :) | 21:41 |
| martial__ | anything else to cover? | 21:41 |
| janders | indeed! :) | 21:41 |
| janders | no, not really | 21:42 |
| janders | I've got a meeting at 900AEDT so happy to wrap up early | 21:42 |
| martial__ | otherwise I invite us to save 20 minutes ;) | 21:42 |
| janders | thank you Martial! | 21:42 |
| janders | have a good day mate | 21:42 |
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| martial__ | thanks Janders | 21:42 |
| martial__ | you as well | 21:42 |
| martial__ | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Dec 11 21:42:40 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-12-11-21.01.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-12-11-21.01.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-12-11-21.01.log.html | 21:42 |
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