Tuesday, 2019-01-29

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tpatil#startmeeting Masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 29 04:00:28 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
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tpatilHi Masakari Team04:00
ShilpaSDtpatil: Hi Tushar san04:01
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tpatilSampath san might join late, so I have started this meeting04:01
tpatil#topic Critical bugs04:01
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tpatilThere are no open critical bugs at the moment04:01
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tpatilin the last week, one critical bug was merged in patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627097/04:02
tpatilAnyone wants to talk about any bugs?04:04
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tpatilMoving ahead04:05
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tpatil#tooic Discussions Points04:06
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tpatil#topic Discussion points04:06
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tpatil1) Notification implementation04:06
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tpatilYesterday I had discussed with Sampath san about this specs offline and he said he will take a look at it04:07
ShilpaSDok, thank you04:07
tpatilOnce he approves this specs, we will start reviewing patches04:07
tpatilFrom my side, I have reviewed all patches and it LGTM04:07
ShilpaSDtpatil: thanks04:08
tpatil2) Add progress details for recovery workflow04:08
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632079/04:09
tpatilSpecs are up for review. Please take a look at it04:09
tpatilShilpa: have you already started working on the implementation?04:09
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ShilpaSDYes, implmentation is started, targeting by next week.04:10
tpatilShilpaSD: sounds good04:10
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tpatilThat reminds me that we should merge this patch soon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633516/04:11
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tpatilIt's about adding stein repo04:12
tpatilI have already approved it, need another one +2 vote04:12
tpatilsagara: Can you please review the above patch?04:12
tpatilI will request him to review this patch later04:15
tpatil3) Add functional tests to masakari04:15
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tpatilI'm checking on how to add multimode CI gate job to run functional tests. It's almost complete. Need to figure out what config options are required to run functional tests which should be either set in the CI jobs in the form environmental variables or modify devstack plugin04:16
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ShilpaSDFrom implementation point of view, we are started with writing functional test case for process and instance recovery for now, expecting to be completed by this week.04:18
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tpatilShilpaSD: Sounds good04:18
tpatilAnyone wants to discuss about any other topic?04:19
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tpatilOk, then ,let's end this meeting early04:21
tashiromtI have no topic today.04:21
tpatilShilpaSD: Thank you for joining04:22
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jiaopengju#startmeeting karbor09:08
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 29 09:08:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jiaopengju. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:08
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jiaopengjuping liushuai09:08
jiaopengjuit’s karbor weekly meeting time09:08
jiaopengjuwe have two tpoics today, 1. local vm backup and restore 2.rbd bank support09:09
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jiaopengjulet’s start the first topic09:11
jiaopengju#topic local vm backup and restore09:11
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jiaopengjuas you know, the local vm backup and restore in karbor only do the image backup, not including the user’s data09:12
jiaopengjuso we should consider adding image-create step in the server protection plugin09:13
jiaopengjubut the server protection plugin do not do the protect of  image that generated by the ‘image-create’, now the image protection plugin do it.09:14
jiaopengjuso it is confused where to add the image-create step09:15
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jiaopengjudo you think it is ok to  add a new plugin that just do the image-create and image backup?09:16
jiaopengjuor add a way to transport the image-create image id to image protection plugin?09:17
liushuaitransport the image-create image id to image protection plugin09:20
jiaopengjuusing this method is better to reuse the current code and logic09:21
jiaopengjuit’s better than adding a new one. I will consider it09:21
jiaopengjuso let’s go on09:22
jiaopengju#topic rbd bank09:22
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jiaopengjunow karbor only support s3, swift and file system bank09:22
jiaopengjubut in some use cases, users do not have filesystem or object storages, so we should add more banks to cover theses cases09:23
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jiaopengjuI will add a new bank before stein release. Few days later I will write a spec and you can help review it09:24
jiaopengjuit’s easy to add new bank :)09:25
jiaopengjubut it’s useful09:25
liushuaithat's good09:26
jiaopengjuok, next09:26
jiaopengju#topic open discussion09:27
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jiaopengjudo you have some topic to talk?09:27
liushuaiI didn't09:28
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jiaopengjuok, we will end the meeting soon. At last, happy new year :) haha09:28
liushuai happy new year09:29
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mlavalle#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 29 14:00:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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mlavallehi there14:02
mlavalle#topic Announcements14:02
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mlavalleAs usual, our agenda can be found here:14:03
mlavalle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings14:03
mlavalleThe next milestone is Stein-3, March 4 - 814:03
mlavalleany other annoucements I might be missing?14:04
mlavalleok, let's move on14:04
mlavalle#topic Blueprints14:05
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mlavalleThis is what we are targeting in Stein-3: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/stein-314:05
mlavallegibi: are you attending the meeting in regards to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/strict-minimum-bandwidth-support?14:06
njohnstonThe bulk port work keeps chugging along, thanks for all who have reviewed https://review.openstack.org/62481514:06
* gibi is just listening ing14:06
mlavallegibi: cool, you are always welcome14:07
mlavallenjohnston: I see a lot of red in that patchset. do you need help dealing with that?14:07
njohnstonI would welcome it, yes14:08
mlavalleany areas where we should pay special attention?14:08
njohnstonI've had issues making sure that security groups are getting set on the bulk created ports, reflected in the results of the testing.  I just reworked things to try to avoid that, but that has been the main issue.14:09
mlavallenjohnston: thanks, will take a look and see how can I help14:11
mlavalleencourage others to do the same14:11
mlavallelast evening igordc pinged haleyb and me because he wanted to discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/openflow-based-dvr14:12
mlavalleThis is the patchset: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629761/14:12
mlavallesince both haleyb and I were busy with something else yesteray, we agreed that igordc was going to start a ML thread about it14:13
mlavalleI haven't checked today if he did, but please be on the lookout for it14:13
* haleyb hasn't looked yet either14:13
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mlavalledavidsha: thanks for finding it. Will look at it soon14:15
mlavalleok, any other blueprints we should be discussing today?14:16
mlavalleok, let's move on14:17
mlavalle#topic Community goals14:18
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mlavallenjohnston: since today we won't have CI meeting, do you want to give a quick update on Python-314:18
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njohnstonSo the change to fix the functional tests now has them passing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577383/14:20
njohnstonat least the python3 ones...14:20
njohnstonbut targeting that to get it merged is the main thing going on in the python 3 space14:20
njohnstonespecially since Nova functional tests just started reporting the same issue14:21
njohnstonit's good that we can demonstrate the resolution14:21
njohnstonThat's it for now.14:21
mlavalleso next step is approve ^^^^ again?14:22
amotokinjohnston: is the issue you mean the parser error?14:22
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njohnstonmlavalle: yes, and it may need a few more rechecks14:23
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mlavalleok I'll llok at it today if someone else doesn't beat me to it14:23
amotokiregarding policy-in-code, fwaas support landed last week, so we can mark the effort as complete. in the neutron repo, a policy document patch is under review https://review.openstack.org/63005014:23
mlavalleThanks for the update14:24
bcafarelso cinder,neutron,nova - the person finding the parser error will make many people happy!14:24
gibifrom nova side I'm trying to track this parser error down14:24
mlavalleamotoki: great job!14:24
gibiwithout luck so far14:24
amotokithere are some cleanups to be done, but in general we can mark it as complete.14:24
mlavalleamotoki: where are those cleanups needed?14:25
amotokimlavalle: in the neutron repo, DocumentedRuleDefault is needed.14:25
amotokiin addition, i have some notes14:25
amotoki- Ensure to define enforce_policy attributes for non-GET operations -> TODOs for stadium projects14:26
amotoki- Add default policies for enforce_policy attributes for get operations -> TODOs for all projects14:26
amotoki- neutron/policy.py: Switch from oslo_policy.enforce() to authorize() to ensure all default policies are defined14:26
mlavallefantastic. Thanks for the update14:27
amotokiThis is my TODO list regarding the policy stuff.14:27
mlavalleok, let's move on14:27
mlavalle#topic Bugs14:27
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mlavalleLast week our deputy was lajoskatona14:28
lajoskatonaLast week was mine as deputy14:28
mlavalleHis report is here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/002150.html14:28
lajoskatonathe report is here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/002127.html14:28
lajoskatonamlavalle: thanks :-)14:28
* mlavalle thanks lajoskatona f fixing his error14:28
amotokimlavalle's one seems not correct :(14:29
mlavalleI pied the wrong tab14:29
mlavallethis is the good one: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/002127.html14:29
mlavallelajoskatona: regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/181255214:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1812552 in neutron "tempest-slow tests fails often" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:30
mlavallethe fix worked, didn't it?14:30
lajoskatonamlavalle: for that one there is a patch from rubasov14:30
lajoskatonamlavalle:sorry that is not that14:31
rubasovrubasov: nope, that's another one14:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1812552 in neutron "tempest-slow tests fails often" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:31
mlavalleright, for this one, it actually fixed, correct?14:31
* rubasov does not feel up to the task of speaking today14:32
lajoskatonamlavalle: yeah, that one is ok14:32
lajoskatonaFor other gate failures the one for oslo.utils (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1812922) the requirememnts patch is merged, and there will be an oslo release soon14:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1812922 in oslo.utils "neutron unit tests break with oslo.utils 3.39.1 and above" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ben Nemec (bnemec)14:33
lajoskatonaA tempest failure (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1813198) with subunit tests is ongoing14:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1813198 in tempest "TestNetworkBasicOps:test_subnet_details intermittently fails with "cat: can't open '/var/run/udhcpc..pid': No such file or directory"" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)14:34
lajoskatonaFor the others I think we have not that much progress, as I seen14:35
rubasovthe last one has a proposed fix14:35
mlavalleyes in Tempest, right?14:35
rubasovsince the problem was probabilistic, I'm rechecking the proposed fix many times to see if it's working14:36
rubasovso far it looks good14:36
mlavallerubasov: checking it locally?14:36
rubasovmlavalle: nope, in the gate14:37
lajoskatonamlavalle: this one is the one https://review.openstack.org/63350214:37
mlavalleok, cool14:38
mlavallewill take a look14:38
mriedemthanks for working on that rubasov14:38
rubasovit seems highly sensitive to timing so I want to see it working under the load of the gate14:38
rubasovmriedem: of course14:38
mlavallelajoskatona: anything else you want to highlight?14:39
liuyulonghttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1813198, which one actually fix the issue?14:39
lajoskatonamlavalle: I think this was what is important14:39
lajoskatonaliuyulong: this one https://review.openstack.org/633502, we think14:40
liuyulonglajoskatona, thanks14:41
mlavalleall right. Thanks for the clarification14:41
mlavalleThis week our deputy is swami14:42
mlavallefor next week you are up amotoki, right?14:42
mlavallemoving on14:43
mlavalle#topic neutron-lib14:43
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mlavalleboden: any updates14:43
bodenI will just quickly mention that we did release neutron-lib 1.22.0 and are in the process of consuming it14:44
bodenother than that just business as usual.14:44
mlavallegreat, thanks for the update14:44
mlavalle#topic On demand agenda14:45
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mlavalleanything else we should discuss today?14:45
mlavalleok, team14:46
mlavalleThanks for attending14:46
mlavallehave a great week!14:46
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ralonsoh#startmeeting neutron_qos15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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mlavalletidwellr: nice to see you in the QoS meeting. welcome15:01
ralonsohlet's start15:01
ralonsoh#topic RFEs15:01
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ralonsohWe have 4 RFEs ongoing15:02
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/157898915:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lajos Katona (lajos-katona)15:02
ralonsohList of patches15:02
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:minimum-bandwidth-allocation-placement-api15:02
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/bandwidth-resource-provider15:02
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:minimum-bandwidth-allocation-placement-api+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+project:openstack/tempest15:02
ralonsohplease, any update lajoskatona, rubasov15:02
lajoskatonafrom my side: I have mostly tests ongoing in tempest fro end-to-end and fullstack15:03
ralonsohyou have this one in neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631793/15:03
rubasovI still have the same patches under review15:03
lajoskatonaralonsoh: yes15:03
ralonsohrubasov, in the Nova side, aren't they?15:04
rubasovmostlu in neutron15:04
rubasovI mean this change series: https://review.openstack.org/63099915:04
mlavalleis everything ready for review?15:04
ralonsohyes, sorry, in Neutron: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:bence.romsics%2540ericsson.com+status:open15:05
lajoskatonaralonsoh: and these in tempest: https://review.openstack.org/629253, these are ongoing, under review15:05
rubasovthe very last has a few TODOs, but all the others are ready for review15:05
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ralonsohlajoskatona, I'll add this one to the etherpad list15:05
lajoskatonaralonsoh: thanks15:06
mlavalleralonsoh: can I have the pointer to the etherpad?15:06
ralonsohok, I promise I'll spend tomorrow on these reviews15:06
rubasovit's this I think15:06
ralonsohyes, this link, feel free to add anything you need under the Launchpad bug15:07
rubasovralonsoh: thank you15:07
gibinova side is also getting reviews. We still have some debate about how to handle the fact that the first v15:07
gibiersion of the code will only handle server create/delete and not server move operations15:07
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ralonsohgibi, but this can be added later15:08
ralonsohAm I right?15:08
gibiralonsoh: yes15:08
mlavalleyeah, that was the agreement15:08
gibiralonsoh: it is the way how nova signals that it is not supported is debated15:08
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ralonsohgibi, yes I talked to Sean15:09
gibiralonsoh: there is an ML thread I have to follow up with dansmith15:09
ralonsohgibi, does Dan have any proposal for this?15:10
gibiralonsoh: yes15:10
mlavalleI think that from the point of view of this team, we don't need to get involved in that discussion15:10
ralonsohgibi, because so far this is the biggest blocker15:10
ralonsohmlavalle, ok, just to have this in mind15:11
gibiralonsoh: I will try to get this sorted out soon15:11
ralonsohgibi, thanks!15:11
mlavalleralonsoh: that's fine. we can comment on it. IT's just that it doesn't block this team's progress ;-)15:11
mlavalleright rubasov, lajoskatona?15:11
ralonsohok, any other blocker (apart from the needed reviews)?15:11
rubasovthat's my understanding too15:12
rubasovI'm not aware of any other blocker15:12
ralonsohthank you very much guys15:12
* mlavalle appreciate ralonsoh keeping a broad view of the functionality implementation ;-)15:13
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ralonsohso let's move to the next one (do not forget to spend time reviewing)15:13
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/177762715:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1777627 in neutron "RFE: QoS – rule's management (set,delete, show…) requires <qos-policy> parameter in addition to <rule-id>" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)15:13
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613820/15:14
mlavallewith the change of job, I found a little difficult to make progress on this15:14
mlavallebut I'll get to it this week15:14
ralonsohI know15:14
ralonsohmlavalle, do you need help?15:14
mlavalleno, I'm good15:14
mlavalleI'll get to it this week15:14
ralonsohwe'll wait for it15:14
ralonsohok, next one15:15
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/179692515:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1796925 in neutron "[RFE] port forwarding floating IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889)15:15
ralonsohwe have a new patch15:15
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631448/15:15
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ralonsohthis is the server part15:15
ralonsohslaweq gave a +2 on PS4, I'll take a look at this today15:16
mlavalleI'll also take a look15:16
ralonsohreviews are welcome15:16
mlavalleit's in my pile15:16
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ralonsohand the last RFE on the list15:16
liuyulongIt's one patch for both server and agent side. : )15:16
ralonsohoh, hi!15:17
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liuyulongSorry for interrupt, please move on.15:17
ralonsohliuyulong, I don't see where you are applying the rules15:17
mlavalleliuyulong: on the contrary, thanks for the update15:17
ralonsohliuyulong, but I need to spend time on this patch15:17
liuyulonghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/631448/4/neutron/agent/l3/extensions/qos/fip.py, here15:18
ralonsohas I said, I'll start reviwing this patch just after this meeting15:18
liuyulongralonsoh, cool, thanks15:19
ralonsohliuyulong, any update or blocker?15:19
liuyulongralonsoh, no, let's move on15:19
ralonsohnext one15:19
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/156096315:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)15:19
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1560963+(status:open)15:19
ralonsohThe patch in neutron-lib is merged and the version bumped15:20
ralonsohall pyroute2 changes are updated and rebased15:20
ralonsohAll those patches are ready to be reviewed15:20
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ralonsohonce the pyroute2 patches are merged, I'll start with the tunnelled traffic patch15:20
ralonsohno blockers, reviews are welcome15:21
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mlavalleok, in my pile. Thanks for the hard work15:21
ralonsohbefore moving, any other missing RFE?15:22
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ralonsohapart from the not active ones or not approved15:22
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ralonsohok, let's move to next section (although there are NO bugs in QoS)15:22
ralonsoh#topic Bugs15:22
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ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/181257615:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1812576 in neutron "L2 agent do not clear old QoS rules after restart" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Chengqian Liu (liuchengqian90)15:23
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ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632014/15:23
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ralonsohI need to take a second look to this one, but seems to be almost ready15:23
ralonsohand with good fullstack test support15:24
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ralonsohplease, take a look at this one15:24
ralonsohnext one15:25
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/180949715:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1809497 in neutron "_get_filterid_for_ip can generate an UnboundLocalError" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)15:25
ralonsohpatch merged!15:25
ralonsohI'll remove it from the list next time15:25
ralonsohthanks slaweq15:25
ralonsohnext one15:25
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/178518915:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1785189 in neutron "Floatingip and router bandwidth speed limit failure" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley)15:25
ralonsoh#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596637/15:26
ralonsohLu replied on december15:26
ralonsohHe will take over this patch ASAP15:26
ralonsohmlavalle, so do you think I should wait?15:27
mlavalleralonsoh: no, go ahead15:27
ralonsohwe commented the possibility to take this one15:27
ralonsohok, perfect15:27
ralonsohI'll take this one15:27
mlavalleyeah lats meeting we said we were going to ait until this one15:27
mlavallewe did, so go ahead15:27
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ralonsohI don't have more bugs in the list15:28
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ralonsohdo you have any other missing one?15:28
mlavallenot me15:29
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ralonsohok, thanks15:29
ralonsoh#topic Open Discussion15:29
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ralonsohnext week I'll be a bit busy travelling but still online15:30
ralonsohno more updates from me15:30
mlavalleh yeah, enjoy Israel15:31
mlavalleis this your first time there?15:31
ralonsohhehehe yes!15:31
ralonsohand wonderful hotel with views!15:31
ralonsohPerfect! I'll close the meeting now. Thank you very much for coming15:32
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rubasovthank you15:32
ralonsohsee you two weeks15:32
rubasovralonsoh: have a nice trip15:32
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mlavallethanks ralonsoh15:32
mlavalleralonsoh: enjoy the trip15:33
ralonsohmlavalle, thanks!15:33
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clarkbanyone here for the infra meeting?19:00
clarkbwe'll get started in a minute19:00
clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Jan 29 19:01:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
clarkbI'll give it a couple more minutes for people to trickle in before starting19:01
clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
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gary_perkinso/ Hi!19:04
clarkbhello :) so far just us. I may just run through the agenda to get it recorded and we can see where that takes us19:04
clarkb#topic Announcements19:04
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clarkbI am going to be on a plane during next week's meeting (February 5th)19:04
clarkbwe'll need a volunteer to chair the meeting. fungi should be back too so may be willing to do that if others are not19:05
clarkbOther than that fungi is afk this week and I get on my first leg of the trip early tomorrow morning so it may start to be quiet around here in the near future19:05
clarkbthen back to normal sometime later next week19:06
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corvusoops what'd i miss?19:06
clarkbcorvus: just me pointing out we'll need a volunteer meeting chair for next week19:06
anteayaclarkb: enjoy safe travels19:07
clarkband that starting tomorrow it will likely get really quiet as fungi is on vacation and I'm headed to fosdem19:07
clarkbreturning to normal some time next week19:07
corvusi volunteer fungi19:07
anteayaI second19:07
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corvusmordred is also gone for the rest of this week19:07
corvuswith so many absences, i will probably hide under my desk19:07
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corvusmaybe change my nick or something19:07
anteayanah, now's the time to party19:07
corvusi'm pretty sure i saw the letters 'pto' near ianw's name recently19:08
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:08
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-01-15-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:08
clarkbI don't think it was officially recorded as a new action last week but I think we are still waiting on docs update for dns management from corvus?19:09
corvus#link dns docs update https://review.openstack.org/63356919:09
clarkboh woot19:09
corvuswait concluded!19:09
clarkbI have added that to my queue as I should be able to review that before I put clothes in a bag19:09
clarkbconsidering the general lack of quorum I'll skip over specs approvals this week (I think the only outstanding one is the anomaly detection in logs and I haven't had a chance to look at it recently)19:10
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:10
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clarkb#topic Storyboard19:11
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clarkbfungi got a new xenial storyboard-dev server up and running against a local database19:11
clarkb(at least I believe it switched the db)19:11
clarkbkeep an eye out for changes to flip over production to a similar setup19:11
clarkbSotK has also started to stub out the attachment storage code if you are interested in what that will look like19:12
clarkb#topic Update Config Management19:12
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clarkbcorvus: cmurphy: last week I didn't get to pay much attention to changes on this front and this week I'm trying to catch up on opendev things. Anything we should be looking at?19:13
cmurphyclarkb: i have two patches still to pull the upgrade trigger https://review.openstack.org/629667 https://review.openstack.org/63039119:13
clarkbcmurphy: ok maybe when I am in your timezone we can get through that first one19:14
cmurphyclarkb: okay19:14
cmurphyi'll be in brussels too19:14
corvusmain thing on the container side is the new jobs/system for building images.  that's described in a post to openstack-discuss, and should be all in place now in system-config.19:14
clarkbcorvus: care to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629667/ and cmurphy and I can try to get that rolling from brussels?19:14
clarkbcorvus: and that is building images for gerrit and zuul now?19:15
corvusso basically we have a nice way to build either first-party or third-party images19:15
corvusyes, gerrit being an example of a third-party image, zuul first-party19:16
corvusi'm continuing to sketch out running a service from that image with this: https://review.openstack.org/63040619:16
clarkb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630406/ WIP change to run service from our built docker images19:17
corvusi think that approach works (as the previous patchset illustrates), so i'm sure if anyone got around to doing that for a simpler service, they could land such a change sooner :)19:18
clarkb#info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630406/ illustrates method that could be applied to simpler service to land docker based service changes sooner19:19
clarkb#topic OpenDev19:19
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clarkbOn the opendev front ttx has been working to get kata its own tenant in zuul. I've been helping with some of the foundation work to make that possible including base jobs repo content and a top level opendev zuul website19:20
clarkbAfter the meeting I intend to go get a cert sorted out for zuul.opendev.org so that we can get that deployed19:20
clarkbI expect that zuul itself will quickly follow into becoming its own tenant19:21
anteayazuul or kata?19:21
clarkbanteaya: well both. Zuul shortly after kata I expect19:21
anteayaokay thank19:21
clarkbAdditionally I've been asked to sort out https://etherpad.opendev.org hosting. I think the way we want to approach this is to use the existing setup but redirect etherpad.openstack.org to etherpad.opendev.org. Then all existing pad urls will work but we'll start pushing people to the new thing. The one gotcha here is we have to set up ssl for both openstack.org and opendev.org for that redirect to19:22
clarkbif anyone is interested in sorting the config management for that please let me know, I can help with that as I am able19:22
corvusis that higher priority than opendev gerrit?19:23
clarkbBased on the work above I figured after fosdem I would put together a list of TODOs for work like that so we can track it better and give people a sense of when things will be available under the "neutral" name19:23
clarkbcorvus: I don't think so19:23
corvusit feels like two other services have jumped the queue.19:23
anteayacan you expand on the 'I've been asked' part?19:23
anteayamysterious direction makes me nervous19:23
clarkbcorvus: I've begun to see the gerrit and zuul stuff as more of a unit as they are coupled together quite a bit.19:24
clarkbanteaya: the rust vmm folks looking to use etherpads19:24
anteayaokay thanks, knowing where requests come from helps me19:24
clarkbcorvus: I do think that gerrit and zuul are the higher priority as they represent the significant road blocks. But I do also think we can likely work these in parallel if people are wanting to poke at etherpad19:25
corvusclarkb: i think zuul and gerrit are separable, which is why i wrote http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/opendev-gerrit.html about gerrit only.19:25
corvusi think it's a huge amount of work and will require attention from the whole team at once19:26
clarkbcorvus: thats fair.19:26
corvusi don't think we are at a place where we can suggest people go and pick off little things19:26
corvusor, at least, i don't want to be the one person working alone on the hardest problem19:27
clarkbcorvus: I mention it because I know the gerrit stuff can be overwhelming to a lot of people, but there may still be interest in helping somewhere. If we'd rather hold the line on getting the big things out of the way as a single collective first I'm good with that too19:27
anteayado we have a place for identiying prioritization requests from certain groups?19:28
corvusif someone brand new came out of the woodwork and showed up with an etherpad change, great.  i'm just a little worried about splitting the attention of the folks who have the context to do the big stuff.19:28
clarkbanteaya: no, I think that would potentially be a secondary function of me trying to write down all the things that need to happen then we can prioritize from there19:28
anteayaokay thank you19:29
clarkbcorvus: this is probably a good time to talk about productionizing gitea then. Are you happy wit hthe current version of things running there?19:29
corvusi wanted to ask the rest of the team if they were :)19:29
clarkbI guess the docker image building piece was a prereq to ^ but we've got that sorted out now19:29
corvusyeah, we could go into production with gitea now19:30
corvusmordred says there is a new version of rook which doesn't require the flexvolume driver or something19:30
corvusthe upshot of which is that we might be able to reconsider running on magnum19:30
clarkbmy time with magnum for the nodepool k8s cluster has me leaning against wanting to do that19:30
corvusso that's a big thing i'd like to get feedback on -- would we rather run our own k8s with the ansible modules as we are doing in the POC, or try again with magnum19:31
clarkbit runs on top of deprecated distro release and doesn't have enough disk space to upgrade k8s on top of itself19:31
clarkbit is slightly more work to deploy our own cluster, but that way we get up to date distro hosts as well as better control over disk usage19:31
corvusokay, so if we lean toward those ansible modules -- it's like the first bit of ansible that we're running from an upstream source.... are we okay running it out of the github repo, or do we want to make our own fork?19:32
clarkbcorvus: maybe pin to a sha1 from the github source? similar to how we've pulled puppet modules from github19:33
clarkbthe other two questions I had were did we end up running an ha k8s cluster (if not do we want to test that first?) and how comfortable are we with ceph disk consumption in the current setup?19:34
corvusokay.  so i think what we probably want to do is: re-build the poc with new rook, verify it all works, then update the ansible changes to pin a sha, then i think we can land them.  i can send an email with that to the infra list since this meeting is somewhat sparsely attended.19:34
corvusclarkb: the k8s cluster is not ha, but i don't think it's necessary19:35
clarkbcorvus: that plan sounds good to me19:35
clarkbcorvus: then maybe aim for a switch ~february 11?19:36
corvus(similar to openstack, if the control plane is absent, you just can't change things, but they keep running.  the individual services in the cluster will be ha)19:36
corvuss/will be/are, in our current config19:36
corvusand yeah, i think the ceph disk usage is tolerable.  i don't have the numbers handy, but we have everything replicated and had plenty of headroom, with the poc being only half our expected prod size19:37
corvus    usage:   78 GiB used, 240 GiB / 318 GiB avail19:37
clarkbI guess the switch can be done mostly transparently, we update dns and bam19:37
clarkbthe gitweb links in gerrit config likely need to be updated, that is straight forward19:38
clarkbcorvus: that is without the refs/changes refs right?19:38
clarkbwhich is likely to be the biggest user facing change in all of this.19:39
corvusi think we should view gitea being in production as a not-very-public step.  i don't think we should switch anything else out yet, there's still quite a bit of planning to be done with redirects, etc.19:39
corvusso basically, brining the new system online in parallel with the old, then next we flesh out the changes to actually start switching things to it.19:39
clarkbgot it. That makes sense19:40
corvusthat will probably involve things like deciding on dates, making announcements, etc.19:40
corvusand yes, that omits refs/changes19:40
clarkbcorvus: from our perspective I guess its moer about putting line in sand about not rebuilding from scratch for each thing, but rolling forward?19:40
corvusand i think we can go ahead and serve that from the real hostname, since that isn't otherwise in use19:41
corvusi think that's it for the gitea-related stuff i had19:42
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clarkbI think that will also make it a bit easier for other roots to poke at it since it will be a "stable" set of names and tooling we can refer to19:42
clarkbcorvus: were there any other gerrit related items worth talking about?19:43
corvusyes and will make the process of creating the redirects easier if we have something to point to19:43
clarkb(I think the bulk of the work so far has been in gitea)19:43
corvusnope, that's it19:43
clarkb#topic General topics19:43
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corvusstill a bunch of stuff to do on http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/opendev-gerrit.html#work-items :)19:43
clarkbcorvus: I can ping qa team about git:// urls19:44
clarkbmay help to be in europe for that too :)19:44
clarkbMoving on19:44
corvusthat would be great, thx19:44
clarkb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/2019-denver-ptg-infra-planning Infra/OpenDev PTG Planning document19:45
clarkbI created that link and have just formalized it as part of the meeting agenda but it doesn't have content yet.19:45
clarkbAs we go through this opendev work if we find things that we want to be in person for or have to deprioritize for whatever reason maybe throw it on that etherpad as a potential work item19:45
clarkbthen as we get closer to the PTG we can reduce the list to what makes sense (if necessary)19:46
clarkbMostly wanted a place for ideas to go early, but no rush19:46
clarkbNext is intermediate container image artifacts19:46
clarkb#link http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-discuss/2019-January/000718.html Docker registry or log server19:46
corvusthat was a message to zuul-discuss, but there's kind of a question for openstack-infra/opendev buried in there...19:47
corvusi'd like to implement that plan (i've nearly completed the required change to zuul itself)19:47
corvusand i'd like to use it in our system.  that either means writing some ansible roles to export/import docker images from the logserver19:47
corvusor running a docker registry19:47
clarkbfwiw I've long pushed against the docker registry because while it seemed simple in practice no one got around to figuring out how it would look from a distributed standpoint. One way around that is to centralize things (which our log server would be doing anyway)19:48
clarkbOne thing we'll need to keep in mind is disk usage, though I expect that to be small if we aren't responsible for the base image layers too19:49
corvusit would be a central registry just used by jobs to stash intermediate artifacts, but it would be publicly accessible for reads.  the only tags for images on the server would be weird, like "pipeline_check_change_1234", so not very useful to the general public.19:49
corvusi think with the registry option, we probably would end up with base layers on there19:49
clarkbthe docker image registry also officially wants to run out of a container so that may be a good simple first service to run that way19:50
clarkbcorvus: we could also proxy cache the central registry for reads to make use of the region local caches19:51
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corvus(with the logserver, i think we can edit them out, but not so much with the registry)19:52
clarkbcorvus: and we are not planning to use this as the registry of record right? that will remain dockerhub or quay etc?19:52
clarkb(its purely an implementation detail of CI jobs)19:52
corvusfinal published images go to dockerhub19:53
clarkbin that case having a registry fronted by the proxy caches seems like it could be nice because then the tooling mimics the "production" type image publishing19:53
clarkbwe won't have to shim in the export/import from fileserver bits19:54
corvusyep, that's why i lean toward this way19:54
corvusand yes, i think with the approach sketched out in the change above, actually running the registry will be simple now19:54
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corvusi think we can consider all the data ephemeral too, so we don't need a lot of planning around robustness19:55
corvusthe main goal here (and why i'm heading out on this tangent) is to get things to the point where we can start doing depends-on changes to image builds19:55
clarkbI'd be happy to go down that path and if we find problems with it we have half implemented fallback in the form of the log server19:55
corvusseveral of the things we've been doing lately we've had to fall back on the pattern of actually landing changes before proceeding with the next step19:56
corvuseverything is so slow that way :(19:56
clarkband just overcommunicate that it shouldn't be used as a source  of production deployments19:56
corvusi'm sure *someone* is going to do it, but if we name the registry "insecure-temporary-registry.opendev.org" at least they'll be the ones who look bad, and not us.19:57
corvus(also, i expect us to aggressively prune images from it)19:57
anteayaha ha ha19:57
clarkbBut ya keeping the tooling similar to real workloads is useful there so ++ to that plan19:58
corvusand being able to 'docker run' something that was built in check could be a powerful dev/debugging tool.19:58
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corvusokay, i'll proceed with the run-a-registry plan19:58
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:58
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clarkband now ~1 minute for anything else that slipped through19:59
anteayahave a productive fosdem clarkb and cmurphy and anyone else attending19:59
corvuspour one out for the rest of us :)19:59
corvusor, better yet, just drink another one20:00
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clarkbthanks everyone!20:00
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clarkbcorvus: belgian beer is so good but also so very full of alcohol so extra drinks might be dangerous :)20:00
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