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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 1 14:01:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:01 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | good evening amotoki | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:01 |
| slaweq | Good Morning/Evening! :) | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | hi slaweq | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | when do you leave for Israel? | 14:02 |
| slaweq | tomorrow morning | 14:02 |
| amotoki | safe travel! | 14:03 |
| davidsha | o/ | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | enjoy the trip | 14:03 |
| slaweq | thx :) | 14:03 |
| amotoki | I enjoyed watching ski jumping world cup games last week. | 14:03 |
| slaweq | hi davidsha | 14:03 |
| davidsha | slaweq: hey! | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | hi davidsha | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | welcome | 14:03 |
| amotoki | davidsha: welcome | 14:03 |
| slaweq | amotoki: Kamil Stoch is good one :) | 14:04 |
| wwriverrat | o/ | 14:04 |
| amotoki | slaweq: yeah, he made a new hill record!! | 14:04 |
| slaweq | yes, I saw it | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | wwriverrat: are you here to discuss the routed networks PoC? | 14:04 |
| amotoki | I was there :) | 14:05 |
| wwriverrat | if it pleases the group :) | 14:05 |
| yamamoto | hi | 14:05 |
| slaweq | hi yamamoto :) | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | wwriverrat: mhhhh, that is not what this meeting is about. Can we discuss in the patch? If that is not sufficient, can we start a ML thread? | 14:06 |
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| wwriverrat | sure. ML thread being generated. I'll just sit and watch. | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | wwriverrat: thanks! | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | ok, we have quorum | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:08 | |
| mlavalle | First in the list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1809878 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1809878 in neutron "[RFE] Move sanity-checks to neutron-status CLI tool" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:08 |
| slaweq | Some time ago I asked mriedem about opinion about it | 14:09 |
| slaweq | he told me that he don't see anything against :) | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | ahh cool, yeah, we talked about asking mriedem | 14:10 |
| amotoki | so we have no blocking thing to approve this? | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | I am ok with this proposal | 14:10 |
| slaweq | it's here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/%23openstack-neutron.2019-01-15.log.html#t2019-01-15T14:18:20 :) | 14:10 |
| slaweq | I think it's is something "nice to have" and I will work on it slowly if it will be approved | 14:11 |
| amotoki | slaweq: makes sense | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | makes sense to me as well | 14:12 |
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| yamamoto | neutron-status is supposed to be installed on every nodes? | 14:17 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: I think so | 14:17 |
| yamamoto | ok, then it makes sense to merge sanity check | 14:18 |
| slaweq | it's defined in entry_points like neutron-sanity-check https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/setup.cfg#L58 | 14:18 |
| amotoki | me too as it is installed by entry_points, but it might depend on distros. | 14:19 |
| slaweq | so maybe some packagers will have to adjust it but I don't see any reason why it won't be installed everywhere | 14:19 |
| amotoki | agree | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | all good moving ahead with this RFE? | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | +1 | 14:20 |
| slaweq | I'm not voting on this one :) | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | you shouldn't ;-) | 14:21 |
| amotoki | +1 | 14:22 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:23 |
| slaweq | thx :) | 14:23 |
| * mlavalle updating the RFE | 14:23 | |
| mlavalle | slaweq: you doing this slowly, right? do you think it will make it in Stein? | 14:24 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I hope so | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | Moving on | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | Next one to discuss today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1811352 | 14:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1811352 in neutron "[RFE] Include neutron CLI floatingip port-forwarding support" [Wishlist,New] | 14:25 |
| amotoki | I think this should go to openstacksdk and python-openstackclient | 14:27 |
| slaweq | I agree | 14:28 |
| slaweq | and those projects uses storyboard already | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | amotoki, slaweq: let me make sure I understand what you are saying: this RFE should have not been reported against Neutron? | 14:30 |
| slaweq | IMHO yes, it's something missing in OSC/SDK | 14:31 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: at least we need to file a RFE to their storyboard. | 14:31 |
| amotoki | although it is nice if neutron team is aware of it | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | I think from the strict point of view of the process, you are right | 14:32 |
| amotoki | what I think now is to file a story on storyboard and then close the RFE in neutron with the storyboard link. | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | but this kind of things with the clients are, to some extent, in a gray area | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | because the trigger was Neutron. So to an extent we own it | 14:33 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: totally agree | 14:33 |
| amotoki | so is it better to keep this open and refer to the RFE in a proposed review? | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | I'll take the action item of filing in openstacksdk and python-openstackclient | 14:34 |
| amotoki | thanks. we just need one story and add tasks to sdk and osc | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | and going forward, when client stuff shows up, the process is cross file and keep it open in Neutron | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | does it make sense? | 14:35 |
| amotoki | makes sense | 14:36 |
| slaweq | yep | 14:36 |
| slaweq | good for me | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | I'll also take the action item to update our devref | 14:36 |
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| mlavalle | so we clarify how client related stuff is handled from RFE perspective | 14:36 |
| amotoki | ++ | 14:37 |
| slaweq | ++ | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | I mean, ultimately we are responsible to deliver complete functionality and that includes the clients | 14:38 |
| amotoki | completely agree | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: any thoughts you might want to add? | 14:39 |
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| yamamoto | does it apply to horizon heat etc? or only client? | 14:39 |
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| mlavalle | that's a pretty good question. In other words, where do we draw the line? | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | Maybe for the time being let's limit this to openstacksdk and python-openstackclient | 14:42 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | and I take the action item to discuss with the TC how they see this boundary issues | 14:42 |
| amotoki | IMHO I see two lines: client support is MUST item, horizon/heat/others are optional | 14:42 |
| slaweq | +1 | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | Let's take amotoki's reasoning as our position^^^^ | 14:43 |
| slaweq | +1 | 14:44 |
| amotoki | :) | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | and I'll comment with the TC the more general boundary issue | 14:44 |
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| mlavalle | ok, next one is not quite ready to be discussed here. But since Midonet has this feature, I would like yamamoto to take some time over the next few days and give us his opinion here: | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1810905 | 14:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1810905 in neutron "[RFE]Support NAT64" [Wishlist,New] | 14:45 |
| yamamoto | i'm curious if the submitter has an implementation idea | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | They might. I don't work there anymore, but ofthen they already have an idea | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | we can ask in the RFE | 14:48 |
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| yamamoto | midonet uses vpp for the 4<->6 transformation as ovs datapath doesn't support it | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | These are good points | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | would you mind leaving a note there? | 14:49 |
| yamamoto | sure, i'll leave a few questions | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:50 | |
| mlavalle | amotoki sent me an email the other day asking me about Tap as a Service | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | he was asked to review client code for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603501/ | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | Right amotoki? | 14:51 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: yes | 14:52 |
| amotoki | in our policy, neutronclient accepts CLI supports for stadium projects, so it raised me the question. | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | so since yamamoto is core in that project, I have a couple of questions: | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | 1) Do we have enough core reviewing capacity in that project? | 14:53 |
| yamamoto | 1) not enough to maintain the current "two +2 to merge" policy | 14:54 |
| amotoki | yamamoto: do you mean you are only active core? | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | I had a conversation with manjeets. He helped implementing and testing the patch above^^^^ | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | so he has come familiar with TaaS. He also spoke to his manager and he has support (an interest) in being core | 14:56 |
| yamamoto | amotoki: sort of. usually kaz reviews if someone ping him. | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | would that help yamamoto? | 14:56 |
| yamamoto | i don't remember manjeets reviewing taas patches | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | well, we can ask him to start reviewing | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | I don't necessarily mean for him to be core now | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | but works towards it | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | with your guidance | 14:59 |
| yamamoto | but good to hear he has an interest | 14:59 |
| yamamoto | sure, let's ask him to start reviewing | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | I just don't want the project to starve to dead | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | ok we are at time | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for attending | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 1 15:00:23 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-02-01-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-02-01-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-02-01-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | Have a great weekend | 15:00 |
| davidsha | thanks, you too! | 15:01 |
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