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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 10:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 10:59:59 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 11:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:00 |
| oneswig | Greetings | 11:00 |
| arne_wiebalck | o/ | 11:00 |
| oneswig | #link Agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_April_10th_2019 | 11:00 |
| oneswig | Hey arne_wiebalck, thanks for joining | 11:00 |
| priteau | Hello | 11:00 |
| oneswig | Hi priteau | 11:00 |
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| dtantsur | o/ | 11:01 |
| mgoddard | \o | 11:02 |
| oneswig | Hi dtantsur mgoddard - welcome | 11:02 |
| dtantsur | :) | 11:02 |
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| mgoddard | hi, thanks | 11:02 |
| oneswig | OK lets kick off with the agenda | 11:02 |
| oneswig | #topic Ironic and external DCIM | 11:03 |
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| oneswig | Thanks Arne for bringing the discussion this way. | 11:03 |
| arne_wiebalck | That's a long standing issue here at CERN. | 11:04 |
| oneswig | Can you summarise what your needs are? | 11:04 |
| arne_wiebalck | Sure. | 11:04 |
| arne_wiebalck | We have compiled a doc with all details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/144g8E_fzGD4WZzMvswkeowzcILL4hxg4QDS-46KYCcQ/edit?usp=sharing | 11:05 |
| arne_wiebalck | In short, we need to keep track of the servers in our DC. | 11:05 |
| arne_wiebalck | Life cycle, but also for campaigns. | 11:05 |
| arne_wiebalck | Think f/w upgrades. | 11:05 |
| arne_wiebalck | We have a DB for this, but keeping it up to date is diffcult. | 11:06 |
| arne_wiebalck | ironic provides some means to gather data about hosts, so we were wondering whether this could be leveraged. | 11:06 |
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| dtantsur | is it enough to have a link in ironic to some external system? or do you mean inspection integration? | 11:07 |
| arne_wiebalck | For now, we were wondering how other sites deal with this issue and what tools they use. | 11:07 |
| arne_wiebalck | the issue with inspection is that it happens only once | 11:07 |
| oneswig | It's interesting because there's a clear precedent for this problem. | 11:07 |
| arne_wiebalck | ironic would interface with some external system | 11:07 |
| arne_wiebalck | to store the data | 11:07 |
| oneswig | In other sites I'm aware of, there's openDCIM (used by the DC guys) and XCAT for the infrastructure provisioning (non-OpenStack) | 11:08 |
| arne_wiebalck | main idea here is that others have already thought about a schema, for instance | 11:08 |
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| oneswig | Now those sites also have Ironic to deal with as a third source of truth. | 11:08 |
| arne_wiebalck | yeah, different sources of truth is also an issue | 11:08 |
| arne_wiebalck | I have a list of 8 or so tools that we will have a look at. | 11:09 |
| janders | is monitoring baremetal node health of interest in this context, or do you do this using a different tool? | 11:10 |
| arne_wiebalck | The main idea being to use these as potential backends to which ironic (or some additional tool) could send data. | 11:10 |
| arne_wiebalck | monitoring is different, I'd say | 11:10 |
| oneswig | In this model, the nodes and ports would no longer be stored in a local database? Do you think everything could be delegated? | 11:10 |
| arne_wiebalck | this is more like #cpus, disks, ... f/w version, ... | 11:10 |
| arne_wiebalck | oneswig: "local" you mean ironic's DB? | 11:11 |
| oneswig | eys | 11:11 |
| oneswig | yes | 11:11 |
| arne_wiebalck | no | 11:11 |
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| arne_wiebalck | I think this would be more like the sensor data ironic is gathering and sending to ceilometer | 11:11 |
| dtantsur | it sounds like you need to post results of introspection to some external database for reconciliation? | 11:11 |
| dtantsur | and maybe do it periodically out-of-band? | 11:12 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: yes | 11:12 |
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| dtantsur | yes to both? | 11:12 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: that sums it up | 11:12 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: yes | 11:12 |
| dtantsur | fun fact: we've just discussed downstream a possibility of periodic out-of-band mini-inspection | 11:12 |
| mgoddard | there is a fine line here between monitoring and inspection | 11:12 |
| arne_wiebalck | periodically, out-of-band, external system | 11:12 |
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| dtantsur | now, with ironic-inspector it's easy: we have processing hooks that can post data anywhere | 11:13 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: yes | 11:13 |
| mgoddard | we'll probably want the results of out of band 'inspection' to also be pushed to a monitoring system | 11:13 |
| dtantsur | what we don't have is 1. out-of-band inspection hooks to post data anywhere, 2. a way to run out-of-band inspection periodically | 11:13 |
| mgoddard | it's just a question of which parts of the data they're interested in, and how frequently | 11:13 |
| dtantsur | this sounds like two pretty orthogonal RFEs to me, I'm fine with both personally | 11:14 |
| oneswig | mgoddard: what kind of monitoring? | 11:14 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: concerning 2. what about the sensor data collection, isn't that similar? | 11:14 |
| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck: it's similar, except that inventory is not quite sensor data | 11:14 |
| mgoddard | oneswig: the equivalent of IPMI sensor data collection, I assume something similar exists for redfish | 11:14 |
| dtantsur | the question is whether we want to represent inventory as part of sensor data or separately | 11:14 |
| oneswig | power and environmentals via BMC channels? | 11:14 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: agreed, I was more thinking about the machinery/framework | 11:15 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: the sensor data contains what? | 11:15 |
| dtantsur | I've heard downstream that people want to collect sensor data much more (and order of magnitude?) often than inventory | 11:15 |
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| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck: thermal data, etc | 11:15 |
| dtantsur | I can try finding an example | 11:15 |
| janders | I am also very interested in baremetal health monitoring via out-of-band but agreed that's not necessary something for a DCIM system | 11:15 |
| mgoddard | the line between these two things might be more of a site policy question than anything? | 11:16 |
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| oneswig | It does sound separable, if not completely separate. | 11:16 |
| janders | agreed | 11:16 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it may be a similar mechanism, but logically separate | 11:16 |
| oneswig | Hardware inventory is a piece that could be focused on first | 11:16 |
| janders | DCIM doesn't need to send notifications, it needs to answer queries | 11:16 |
| oneswig | Although mgoddard we certainly know people who want the monitorng | 11:17 |
| arne_wiebalck | DCIM may be more than what I had in mind initially (it'd add switches, racks, cabls, ...) | 11:17 |
| janders | monitoring is sort of the opposite in that sense | 11:17 |
| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck: looking at our example from IPMI I see power, voltage, POST errors, temperature readings, etc | 11:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | I guess there is also a thin line | 11:18 |
| dtantsur | this is for sensors ^^ | 11:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: thanks | 11:18 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: that is handled by our monitoring (and hence separate for us :-D) | 11:18 |
| dtantsur | well, yeah. we need it from ironic :) but for IPMI it's an existing feature for some time. | 11:19 |
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| arne_wiebalck | I'm putting some hope into redfish for OOB inspection | 11:19 |
| dtantsur | I can help with the ironic side of this feature (well, two related features), we have interest in it | 11:20 |
| janders | dtantsur: excellent! :) | 11:20 |
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| oneswig | dtantsur: with inspection data & extra data, is that posted to Swift by Ironic? Could that be made modular? | 11:20 |
| arne_wiebalck | oneswig: swift or a db | 11:20 |
| dtantsur | oneswig: it's only for ironic-inspector (in-band inspection) | 11:20 |
| dtantsur | and it is pluggable since Stein | 11:20 |
| dtantsur | we also have pluggable hooks that run on inspection | 11:21 |
| dtantsur | but again, it's all in-band. you cannot run it periodically on a live instance. | 11:21 |
| dtantsur | (well, unless you write an in-instance agent) | 11:21 |
| arne_wiebalck | the alternative would be to require a h/w daemon on each instance | 11:21 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: :-D | 11:21 |
| dtantsur | right, this is something that we (as in ironic) are not very fond of doing, to be honest | 11:22 |
| janders | are you aware of anyone using this (an agent inside the baremetal) in the wild? | 11:22 |
| dtantsur | we've been trying to avoid touching running instances. doing that will need us to talk to neutron to understand networking, etc. | 11:22 |
| arne_wiebalck | I think Rackspace had sth like this. | 11:22 |
| janders | sounds crazy but maybe it's not that crazy | 11:22 |
| dtantsur | it's not crazy at all, it just doesn't seem to fit in ironic very well | 11:22 |
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| arne_wiebalck | well, that would be an ironic-independent approach | 11:23 |
| dtantsur | you don't need ironic's help to do that. you can make such daemon just post data wherever you need | 11:23 |
| oneswig | What inventory data can be extracted from out-of-band inspection, using generic Redfish objects? | 11:23 |
| dtantsur | oneswig: essentially everything in theory | 11:23 |
| janders | having an optional agent gathering utilisation metrics and health information would be pretty cool | 11:23 |
| dtantsur | the practice depends on a specific vendor, unfortunately | 11:23 |
| janders | for now running in baremetal means bye bye metrics | 11:23 |
| dtantsur | redfish is a very loose standard | 11:24 |
| janders | or - could this be done out of band as well? I guess that'd be vendor specific | 11:24 |
| arne_wiebalck | oneswig: dtantsur : but in reality probably very different things | 11:24 |
| dtantsur | of course :( | 11:24 |
| oneswig | dtantsur: I think of it like SNMP, in that there is a common protocol but with useful data in vendor extensions. | 11:24 |
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| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck, oneswig, talk to etingof on #openstack-ironic, he's our local Redfish guru :) | 11:24 |
| dtantsur | oneswig: it's not THAT bad usually | 11:25 |
| arne_wiebalck | :) | 11:25 |
| dtantsur | it's just that literally everything in Redfish is optional | 11:25 |
| dtantsur | literally | 11:25 |
| oneswig | dtantsur: thanks :-) | 11:25 |
| dtantsur | you can have a compliant implementation with zero features | 11:25 |
| dtantsur | but vendors do catch up, so it's rarely that bad in practice | 11:25 |
| oneswig | arne_wiebalck: you have a shortlist already, what's on it? | 11:26 |
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| arne_wiebalck | a short list for things to read out, you mean? | 11:26 |
| oneswig | external dcims | 11:26 |
| arne_wiebalck | ah | 11:27 |
| * arne_wiebalck getting the list | 11:27 | |
| dtantsur | check e.g. this DMTF mockup of a Redfish server: https://redfish.dmtf.org/redfish/mockups/v1/863 | 11:27 |
| oneswig | Seems like a reference implementation is readily achievable, which is great | 11:27 |
| dtantsur | (go into the available System, check e.g. Processors) | 11:27 |
| dtantsur | #link https://redfish.dmtf.org/redfish/mockups/v1/863 a redfish mockup to play with | 11:28 |
| arne_wiebalck | i-doit, CMDBuild, SnipeIT, SysAid, Spiceworks, GLPI, NetBox, xcat | 11:28 |
| oneswig | cool! | 11:28 |
| arne_wiebalck | completely unfiltered ^ | 11:28 |
| mgoddard | oneswig: you mentioned openDCIM earlier. Is that worth adding? | 11:28 |
| oneswig | I think so but I don't know how it works and what it can do for supporting integration | 11:29 |
| arne_wiebalck | we'll start by having a look at these and see which of these make it on a short list by criteria such as licensing, maintained, storage needs, ... | 11:29 |
| arne_wiebalck | ... APIs ... | 11:29 |
| arne_wiebalck | well, that's the plan for now | 11:30 |
| hearnsj | openDCIM is OK. Simple to set up | 11:30 |
| arne_wiebalck | hearnsj: added to my list, thx | 11:30 |
| hearnsj | I'm not an expert with commercial DCIM suites though | 11:30 |
| oneswig | Hello hearnsj, welcome! | 11:31 |
| hearnsj | I have worked with openDCIM ping me offline hearnsj@gamil.com | 11:31 |
| arne_wiebalck | hearnsj: thx! | 11:31 |
| oneswig | APIs is probably a big differentiator given the implementors may not assume a machine-to-machine interface | 11:32 |
| dtantsur | no API - no integration :) | 11:32 |
| arne_wiebalck | yeah, probably a good thing to check early on | 11:32 |
| oneswig | I don't know how much useful lifecycle data XCat stores - that's not really it's mission AFAIK. | 11:33 |
| oneswig | Way back there was a project to integrate it with Ironic as a power driver... | 11:33 |
| dtantsur | waaaay back :) | 11:34 |
| janders | I think that died a horrible death, didn't it? | 11:34 |
| janders | I never quite got the concept - was it more of an image-deployment driver? | 11:35 |
| janders | power wise, not sure what would xcat add to the picture? | 11:35 |
| dtantsur | I barely remember it | 11:35 |
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| oneswig | I'm not sure either... | 11:36 |
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| oneswig | Were there other candidates to suggest for arne_wiebalck ? | 11:37 |
| arne_wiebalck | if you have suggestions or input, please get in touch :) | 11:37 |
| oneswig | Quick response from UCam - "HI Stig, we've experimented with both of those, but still use Xcat mostly for a pseudo DCIM. But we're playing with netbox from DO now as a replacement to make Xcat less central, and also I know Sanger use Infloblox as their DHCP/DNS/IPAM solution." | 11:38 |
| janders | Infoblox.. that's widely used in shops around town here | 11:38 |
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| arne_wiebalck | some these tools have quite an emphasis on the networking ... | 11:39 |
| arne_wiebalck | .. not necessarily what we look for for our use case. | 11:40 |
| oneswig | OK, we should conclude this topic | 11:40 |
| janders | Add Infoblox IPAM agent image. The agent will listen for neutron and nova events and automatically manage DNS entries within an Infoblox appliance. The agent will be started when ‘infoblox’ is selected as the neutron_ipam_driver. | 11:40 |
| dtantsur | any action items from ironic side? | 11:40 |
| janders | that's right | 11:40 |
| oneswig | arne_wiebalck: will you follow up with your research? | 11:41 |
| arne_wiebalck | definitely :) | 11:41 |
| janders | dtantsur: I would be very much interested in the out-of-band monitoring angle | 11:41 |
| oneswig | dtantsur: sounds like your hard work is already done :-) Thanks for that! | 11:41 |
| oneswig | arne_wiebalck: is there anything planned for forum or PTG on this? | 11:41 |
| arne_wiebalck | no | 11:42 |
| dtantsur | maybe we should sync off-channel re next ironic action items? or indeed at the forum/PTG? | 11:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | there was a session two PTGs ago | 11:42 |
| janders | +1 for PTG | 11:42 |
| oneswig | I'll put this on the agenda again next week in the US timezone and try to gather a few more data points. | 11:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: sounds good! | 11:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | oneswig: thanks! | 11:42 |
| dtantsur | arne_wiebalck: wanna drive this process? | 11:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: yes | 11:42 |
| dtantsur | great, thanks! | 11:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: won't be at the ptg, though | 11:43 |
| dtantsur | what about the forum? | 11:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: neither | 11:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | :( | 11:43 |
| dtantsur | okay, asynchronous ways work just as well | 11:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | lol, sorry | 11:44 |
| dtantsur | no need to worry. I actually think it's better. | 11:44 |
| oneswig | Great, thanks arne_wiebalck dtantsur and all, lets move on | 11:44 |
| arne_wiebalck | thx oneswig ! | 11:44 |
| oneswig | #topic HPC containers CFP | 11:44 |
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| oneswig | Martial sends his apologies today but is running an event at ISC in Frankfurt | 11:45 |
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| oneswig | #link HPC containers workshop https://easychair.org/cfp/hpcw2019 | 11:45 |
| oneswig | He has a few panelists involved and from them I think he'll be looking at a good range of technologies | 11:46 |
| oneswig | I think it was just the announcement for that one. | 11:46 |
| oneswig | #topic Help most needed - SIG functional gaps | 11:46 |
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| oneswig | #link Forum session on SIG-identified functional gaps https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23612/help-most-needed-for-sigs-and-wgs | 11:47 |
| oneswig | Rico Lin got in touch to ask for participation last week | 11:47 |
| dtantsur | I see 2 bare metal items, but I think I may have a conflict at this time.. | 11:48 |
| oneswig | We started an etherpad | 11:48 |
| oneswig | #link SIG functional gaps etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denver2019-gaps | 11:48 |
| oneswig | dtantsur: I think there'll be plenty of opportunities to respond. A good one might be the SIG session at the PTG. | 11:48 |
| dtantsur | oh, it's not critical for me, but rather for mgoddard :D | 11:49 |
| dtantsur | I mean, the conflict | 11:49 |
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| oneswig | mgoddard is packing a suitcase full of hats to wear for his many roles in Denver... | 11:49 |
| mgoddard | I didn't even check, tuesday is full :) | 11:49 |
| dtantsur | mgoddard: yeah, it's the slot of your talk | 11:50 |
| oneswig | Thursday morning I hope will be a better chance (haven't seen the SIG slots for the PTG yet though) | 11:50 |
| oneswig | I'm hoping we can add some federation experiences to this etherpad in due course | 11:51 |
| janders | I am inclined to add the baremetal metrics in there | 11:52 |
| janders | is this of interest to you as well? | 11:52 |
| oneswig | janders: good idea. | 11:53 |
| oneswig | For example SKA has concerns on heat management. | 11:53 |
| oneswig | Given their data centre sites in South Africa and Western Australia... | 11:53 |
| oneswig | janders: Is SuperCloud in Canberra or WA? | 11:54 |
| janders | Canberra.. for now ;) | 11:54 |
| hearnsj | Regarding heat/power - people also looking at power budget for compute runs, not just time | 11:55 |
| janders | immersive cooling could help there - and there's some really interesting work on that in WA | 11:55 |
| oneswig | hearnsj: did you ever evaluate DK Panda's energy-efficient MPI? | 11:55 |
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| oneswig | a small part of a solution for a big problem | 11:56 |
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| * dtantsur has to drop for lunch, sorry. was great to talk to you! | 11:57 | |
| oneswig | janders: think you've got some interest in seeing that raised | 11:57 |
| oneswig | thanks dtantsur! | 11:57 |
| oneswig | #topic Denver Summit | 11:57 |
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| oneswig | #link SIG main session https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23741/scientific-sig-bof-and-lightning-talks | 11:57 |
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| oneswig | It's Monday afternoon this time | 11:57 |
| * arne_wiebalck has to run to another meeting o/ | 11:58 | |
| oneswig | We'll use the same format, which means half the session will be lightning talks on SIG topics | 11:58 |
| oneswig | thanks arne_wiebalck! | 11:58 |
| hearnsj | oneswig Never did I'm afraid | 11:58 |
| oneswig | #link lightning talks etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denver19-bof | 11:59 |
| hearnsj | Regarding immersive cooling - my company has a boat load of it. Pun intended. | 11:59 |
| oneswig | I see janders is already there to defend his win last time :-) | 11:59 |
| hearnsj | It public knowledge - our Houston datacentre has immersive cooling. | 11:59 |
| oneswig | hearnsj: interesting | 11:59 |
| hearnsj | Is there any relevance to Openstack though - we dont run Openstack there. | 12:00 |
| janders | hearnsj: maybe you can give a lightning talk about it? :) | 12:00 |
| oneswig | We are out of time | 12:00 |
| janders | thanks guys! | 12:00 |
| oneswig | Final mentions? | 12:00 |
| oneswig | OK, have to close it there. Thank you all | 12:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 12:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 12:00:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-10-10.59.html | 12:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-10-10.59.txt | 12:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-10-10.59.log.html | 12:01 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 14:00:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:00 |
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| liuyulong | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi liuyulong | 14:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:03 | |
| mlavalle | The community is releasing Stein this week | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: I think we can tag stable/stein next week to include the latest fixes | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | ok with you? | 14:04 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: ack, i'll check and make sure things are merged | 14:04 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:stable/stein shows a few | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | I remind folks that we are gathering topics for the PTG here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-networking-train-ptg | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | and finally, pike stable branch is entering the extended maintenance stage | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | per discussion during yesterday's team meeting, it is up to us to decide how lomg it stays there | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | ok moving on | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:10 | |
| mlavalle | First one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1821912 | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1821912 in neutron "intermittent ssh failures in various scenario tests" [High,Confirmed] | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | as I've mentioned before, we are working collectively in debugging this | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | it was discussed during yesterday's CI meeting | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | and we took specific homeworks: | 14:11 |
| liuyulong | Yes, I talked with slaweq today. I will join this team. | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | slaweq is going to create a DNM patch in Tempest to add more logging | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | I am going to create a DNM patch to add some tcpdump tracing | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | liuyulong: great! | 14:12 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1823038 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1823038 in neutron (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Neutron-keepalived-state-change fails to check initial router state" [High,Confirmed] | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | it seems it has already benn fixed | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | and those are all the bugs I have for today | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | any other bugs we should discuss? | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | ok, moving on | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:17 | |
| mlavalle | anything else we should discuss today? | 14:17 |
| haleyb | very quiet meeting | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | well, in that case, this will be a short one | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | have a great rest of your day | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:19 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 14:19:11 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-04-10-14.00.html | 14:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-04-10-14.00.txt | 14:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-04-10-14.00.log.html | 14:19 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting cinder | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 15:00:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr erlon tpsilva ganso patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ whoami-rajat yikun rosmaita enriquetaso hemna _hemna | 15:00 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-meetings Agenda | 15:00 |
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| smcginnis | Haha, wait a minute! I'm an hour early!! :D | 15:01 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: it's only 1500 utc :) | 15:01 |
| whoami-rajat | exactly ^^ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 15:01:12 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-04-10-15.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-04-10-15.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-04-10-15.00.log.html | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Good meeting all! LOL | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Busy morning for me. | 15:01 |
| whoami-rajat | smcginnis: hah, :) | 15:02 |
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| xyang | ended? | 15:04 |
| davidsha | started an hour early | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | xyang: I jumped the gun an hour early. :] | 15:04 |
| xyang | oh:) | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Darn time changes. | 15:04 |
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| Erasmus | so many topic changes | 15:09 |
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| enriquetaso | hahaha | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | OK, let's try this again. :) | 15:59 |
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| rosmaita | you're still early! | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 16:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| rajinir | hi | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 16:00 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: I waited. :) | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping jungleboyj diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr erlon tpsilva ganso patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ whoami-rajat yikun rosmaita enriquetaso hemna _hemna | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | For reals this time. | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| xyang | hi | 16:00 |
| lseki | hello | 16:00 |
| _alastor_ | o/ | 16:00 |
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| carloss | hi :) | 16:00 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: :) | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | I'm just the substitute. :) | 16:01 |
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| whoami-rajat | 2 cinder meetings in 1 day :) | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:01 |
| e0ne | we need the 2nd cinder release now | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-meetings Agenda | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | The Train PTG is coming up the Thurs-Sat after the Summit. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Trying to collect topics here: | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-ptg-planning | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Please add anything that needs to be discussed. | 16:02 |
| _erlon_ | hey | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Jay is also trying to coordinate a dinner/outing for the team | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-dinner-plan | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Anyone that will be in Denver - it would be great to get us all together. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | I'm sure he will have more updates as far as location and other details. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | We aren't so far out from the city this time around, so there will probably be a lot of options. | 16:04 |
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| rosmaita | reminder: anyone with dietary restrictions, please put them on that etherpad | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | I processed the final stein release this morning, so we are now officially on to train. | 16:05 |
| rosmaita | \o/ | 16:05 |
| whoami-rajat | \o/ | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Please take a look at the new driver patches so we can get those out of the way as soon as possible. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:train-drivers+status:open | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | I know one or two (RSD at least) were pretty close at the stein deadline, so it would be great if we can help those folks relax and not leave them sit out there too long. | 16:06 |
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| whoami-rajat | it was due to CI not running all tests IIRC ? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | And finally, we are overdue for stable/pike to enter "Extended Maintenance" phase. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat: That could be for some. Hopefully they've all sorted that out by now. | 16:07 |
| whoami-rajat | smcginnis: ok | 16:07 |
| rosmaita | looks like we're in good shape for final stable/pike releases except for os_brick | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | With EM phase, we can still choose to backport fixes, but there will no longer be official releases of that stable branch. | 16:07 |
| rosmaita | some outstanding patches there | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | So we need to get a final pike release out while we can. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Thanks for pulling all of that together. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | #link https://tiny.cc/cinder-stable-pike | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-releases-tracking | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Stable cores, please look at open patches when you can. Other reviews welcome too of course. | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Cinder/Nova Cross Project Discussion | 16:09 |
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| rosmaita | quick question about pythong-brick-cinderclient-ext ... no functional changes, do we want to do a final release just to have no un-merged patches? | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | I was signed up for this one by Jay, so I don't have too much detail. :) | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | But as usual, we will have some time with Nova at the PTG to go through cross-project things. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-train Line 230 | 16:10 |
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| e0ne | rosmaita, smcginnis: IMO, it's better to make a final release with current changes if some vendors uses only releases | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | If anyone has topics that should be discussed that involve any kind of Cinder<>Nova interaction, please get those topics added. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: ++ Yep, I agree. | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | The extended maintenance phase is really kind of like what we did with driverfixes/* | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Just a place for fixes to be kept so everyone isn't forking their own repos to hold them. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | But actual releases are best. | 16:11 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:11 |
| whoami-rajat | smcginnis: L 249? it will change anyway. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | OK, as far as the Cinder/Nova session, I haven't seen a specific time for that. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat: Yeah. Look "somewhere around that area" ;) | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Watch for more details about when that will take place. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Typically in the past we've just joined Nova in their room since they end up with a larger room and it's just easier. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | So if anyone shows up to the PTG and the Cinder room is empty, check the nova room. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Or the bar. :P | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Any questions about any of that? | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | OK, moving on then. | 16:14 |
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| smcginnis | Oh, but first, please add your name/nick to the PTG etherpad so we can get an idea of who will actually be there: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-ptg-planning | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Alright, now moving on... | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | #topic Adding is-public arg to cinderclient | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | whoami-rajat: All yours | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641698/ | 16:16 |
| whoami-rajat | So the patch is receiving multiple suggestions and Eric thought that we need to discuss what the exact parameter should be and where it should reside (inside the --filters or as a separate arg) | 16:16 |
| whoami-rajat | eharney: ^^ | 16:17 |
| eharney | well | 16:17 |
| eharney | it's not at all clear why we would add a new arg for this while we are actively deprecating other similar args from the list command | 16:17 |
| eharney | what is the intent or policy here? | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Generic filters were added to prevent the need to keep adding new args. | 16:17 |
| eharney | which is... questionable for usability, but good for the code, i think | 16:18 |
| geguileo | I like the idea of adding it as a filter | 16:18 |
| whoami-rajat | so i added the new arg as it is fairly an old option for the API, and keeping in it filters would require 3.52 MV or higher | 16:18 |
| eharney | i asked in the review if there was some reason it could not be done via filters | 16:18 |
| e0ne | geguileo: +1 | 16:18 |
| geguileo | whoami-rajat: the CLI can receive it as a filter, and internally decide how to pass it to the server, right? | 16:19 |
| whoami-rajat | geguileo: need to check, but yeah it can be added in filter. | 16:20 |
| eharney | what would a user pass in to use this w/ filters? | 16:20 |
| eharney | because as Brian pointed out, the --is-public boolean is not exactly straightforward | 16:21 |
| geguileo | eharney: yeah, rosmaita raise an important point there | 16:22 |
| rosmaita | it might not be so bad with --filter, though | 16:22 |
| eharney | calling "cinder list --visibility private" is way more sensible than "cinder list --filters is_public=False" | 16:22 |
| eharney | which kind of makes me wonder where we were going with the idea of deprecating --bootable, --status, etc | 16:22 |
| geguileo | eharney: it is indeed more sentible, but it kind of diverges from what we usually do, right? | 16:23 |
| eharney | geguileo: i'm trying to figure out if what we usually/currently do is actually reasonable or not | 16:23 |
| eharney | and i'm not really sure yet | 16:23 |
| eharney | because replacing "--bootable true" with "--filters bootable=true" seems like something just designed to be annoying when there's no reason we couldn't just map "--bootable true" into whatever API we want | 16:24 |
| rosmaita | :) | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | True | 16:24 |
| geguileo | eharney: I kind of prefer the filters thing XD | 16:25 |
| eharney | i... really don't | 16:25 |
| eharney | but anyway, is it possible to do this with --filters currently w/o changing the client? | 16:25 |
| whoami-rajat | geguileo: filters are just updated inside search_opts so yeah we can decide what to send to API. | 16:26 |
| eharney | just to know where we are starting from | 16:26 |
| rosmaita | i think that's the key question, because if we have to change the client, might as well make it a good usability change | 16:26 |
| rosmaita | the only advantage i see to --filters is if we don't have to change the client to handle new filters | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | That was the intent for how it should work. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Then you don't need a new client release every time we add yet another thing to filter on. | 16:27 |
| rosmaita | right, makes sense | 16:27 |
| whoami-rajat | smcginnis: and can be backported as well? | 16:27 |
| eharney | backporting is a whole separate discussion from any of this for now | 16:27 |
| eharney | let's just worry about cinderclient master | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Shouldn't be a need to backport, since the mechanism just allows whatever attribute you want to filter on to be passed through. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | So older clients can work with newer servers and vice versa. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | But yeah, let's just focus on master for now. | 16:28 |
| whoami-rajat | i think this option started with the discussion of backporting to stein, but yeah first concluding the master is better. | 16:29 |
| eharney | worrying about stein is a huge distraction from trying to design cinderclient's interface | 16:29 |
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| whoami-rajat | eharney: ++ | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | So I'm not clear where things stand. Are we actually fine with the client as it is today with being able to use --filter? | 16:31 |
| eharney | one argument against --filters is that it exposes cinder db internals to the shell interface | 16:31 |
| rosmaita | also, i think what you can actually filter on isn't available in the help, right? | 16:32 |
| eharney | right | 16:32 |
| eharney | also, --filters doesn't work correctly, which is really an implementation bug, but maybe worth keeping in mind here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/1696780 | 16:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1696780 in python-cinderclient "supplying multiple list --filters does not work correctly" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rajat Dhasmana (whoami-rajat) | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Didn't that include a way to query what the available filters were? I thought that was part of it. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Because administrators could also control some of that. | 16:33 |
| eharney | you can specify what fields can be filtered in the server config | 16:33 |
| eharney | i don't think you can query for them..? | 16:33 |
| whoami-rajat | eharney: i remember that, when multiple filters are passed it only considers the first (or last) one. | 16:34 |
| eharney | oh, "cinder list-filters" | 16:34 |
| whoami-rajat | eharney: that just returns the resource_filters.json right? | 16:34 |
| eharney | it lists the fields for each resource | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/cinder-specs/specs/pike/generalized_list_filters.html | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | "The list-filters component is derived from an Admin provided list of valid and enabled filters for end users to access." | 16:36 |
| eharney | which is kind of interesting because now it means that things like the message table's message_level field is exposed as a string via the API, which means we couldn't ever do something like change it to an integer in the database without going through a bunch of compat issues | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | It's something that can be discovered by querying, so I think it's a little more flexible that an actual API change. | 16:37 |
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| smcginnis | So... next steps for is_public? | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone? | 16:41 |
| eharney | well 1) is make sure it actually works currently w/ --filters like we think it does | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat: Can you take that action? ^ | 16:41 |
| whoami-rajat | will update the code with --filters | 16:41 |
| eharney | then we can categorize the addition of a new arg to the CLI as a usability improvement instead of something needed to enable the feature | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | #action whoami-rajat to test --filters works with public visibility | 16:42 |
| eharney | which, i dunno, gives us time to procrastinate until we figure out how this should actually be designed? | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | If this is not a topic on the PTG etherpad, might be good to add it there to make sure we follow up. | 16:42 |
| whoami-rajat | smcginnis: ++ | 16:43 |
| eharney | the generalized filters spec has an unfortunately link to a github gist which no longer exists. maybe all the answers were in there | 16:43 |
| eharney | unfortunate link* | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat: I will leave that to you as well. :) | 16:43 |
| whoami-rajat | smcginnis: sure, will do! | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | whoami-rajat: Thanks! | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | eharney: I'm sure jgriffith has all the answers. :) | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | A couple more topics. Are we good to move on? | 16:44 |
| whoami-rajat | yep | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | #topic User messages | 16:44 |
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| rosmaita | i will make this quick | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: You have the floor. | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/648294/ | 16:44 |
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| rosmaita | i was reviewing some patches that add some user messages for the messages API and wasn't quite clear on how it's supposed to work | 16:44 |
| rosmaita | i dug in the code a bit, thought i had found a bug, and then realized that it probably wasn't a bug | 16:44 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i updated the contrib docs on user messages (the code had been refactored in pike to add the message_field stuff but the docs were not updated) | 16:45 |
| rosmaita | i also added some tests so that some dope like me doesn't come along and "fix" something that is not broken | 16:45 |
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| rosmaita | the reason i am bringing this up is that i've only been working on cinder a few months, so it would be good for some people with more institutional memory to double-check me on this | 16:45 |
| rosmaita | btw, i added a "usage patterns" section to the contrib docs so it's easy to see how to add them | 16:45 |
| rosmaita | because adding user messages seems like a useful thing that new contributors can do that also has a high end-user impact | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | Thanks for making that docs better with that! | 16:45 |
| rosmaita | anyway, that's it from me | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | I think we could still spend some time improving our user messages. Glad to see some attention there. | 16:46 |
| rosmaita | yeah, they're used in surprisingly few places | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | #topic cinderlib update | 16:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinderlib update (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:47 | |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Your turn | 16:47 |
| eharney | along similar lines, the client would love some more work adding --poll to other operations to get those messages | 16:47 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: thanks | 16:47 |
| geguileo | This will be quick | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | eharney: ++ | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/649552 | 16:47 |
| geguileo | We are just 1 patch away from being able to release cinderlib | 16:48 |
| geguileo | ^ that's the last patch | 16:48 |
| rosmaita | \o/ | 16:48 |
| geguileo | After that we'll be able to release version 0.9 as the Stein release | 16:48 |
| geguileo | as we agreed in last week's meeting | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Thanks for all your work on that. There was a lot of churn over the course of that in stein. | 16:48 |
| geguileo | and thank you all that helped with the reviews and making suggestions on how to do things | 16:49 |
| geguileo | like using launchpad for the time being | 16:49 |
| geguileo | and doing independent releases | 16:49 |
| geguileo | it helped :-) | 16:49 |
| geguileo | now I'm working on a document explaining how to validate cinderlib using devstack | 16:50 |
| geguileo | and how to add it to the 3rd party CI jobs | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | Oh nice. That will be good. That would be for those other backends that you have not been able to work with? | 16:50 |
| geguileo | aaaaaaand that was all O:-) | 16:50 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: and even for those that I have been able to work | 16:50 |
| geguileo | because that way they can ensure that they keep working | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Third party CI would be good. I think we have a few things to talk about with CI at the PTG that we need to make sure all of the maintainers are aware of. | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Python 3 being the other major thing. | 16:51 |
| geguileo | +1 | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Thanks geguileo! | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open floor | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open floor (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:52 | |
| smcginnis | Anyone else have anything to bring up? | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | Would be great to get a good start on Train. I have it on my list to take a look through specs. | 16:53 |
| smcginnis | OK, I guess we can wrap up for today. Thanks everyone! | 16:54 |
| rosmaita | bye! | 16:54 |
| geguileo | thanks! | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 16:54:54 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-04-10-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-04-10-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-04-10-16.00.log.html | 16:54 |
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| whoami-rajat | thanks smcginnis | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | Take 2 was better than the first one. :D | 16:55 |
| whoami-rajat | :P | 16:55 |
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| fungi | for those wondering, chatter in #storyboard suggests no meeting this week. find us in there if you have something to bring up | 19:23 |
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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 10 21:00:06 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | hi | 21:00 |
| rledisez | o/ | 21:00 |
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| clayg | o/ | 21:01 |
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| alecuyer | o/ | 21:01 |
| timburke | pretty short agenda (i guess that happens for a while after a release) | 21:02 |
| timburke | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| clayg | love it | 21:02 |
| timburke | first up, updates! | 21:02 |
| timburke | #topic py3 | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py3 (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:02 | |
| timburke | who has progress to share? | 21:02 |
| * zaitcev hides | 21:02 | |
| timburke | hehe | 21:02 |
| * zaitcev remembers SLO and reappers | 21:03 | |
| timburke | yay slo! | 21:03 |
| zaitcev | Oh, right. How many months did I promise SLO? It's there now. Still needs bulk first though, and there's a couple of tests that triggered re-think in bulk, although bulk's own tests did not catch it. | 21:03 |
| mattoliverau | zaitcev: nice | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | I pushed a very slight update on the staticweb patch, just addressed comments | 21:04 |
| timburke | definitely seems promising | 21:05 |
| timburke | i'm currently working on s3api -- down to just 26 or so failing tests... but i think they're all to do with creating strings to sign, which might get messy | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | o/ | 21:05 |
| timburke | anybody blocked on py3 work? need any help or want to highlight something worth reviewing? | 21:06 |
| timburke | all right, moving on | 21:06 |
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| timburke | #topic losf | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "losf (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:07 | |
| timburke | i saw kota_ pushed up a series of patches | 21:07 |
| kota_ | yup | 21:07 |
| kota_ | i still need to fix (and perhaps squash) some of these tho. | 21:08 |
| alecuyer | yes, the go modules, I think it's a good idea, I tried in on vagrant, posted a few comments and some changes to the Makefile | 21:08 |
| kota_ | thx alecuyer! I'll check what's going on in such a vagrant box. | 21:09 |
| kota_ | it worked in my box so i should check what's diff. | 21:09 |
| timburke | cool -- sounds like it's coming along. hopefully we'll be able to have tests running with go code in the gate soonish | 21:10 |
| kota_ | i also *want* try to make ansible ploybook to repro the make in the gate env. | 21:10 |
| kota_ | timburke: :) | 21:10 |
| timburke | again, anybody blocked? anything the rest of us should be doing to help this week? | 21:11 |
| zaitcev | I'm scared of leveldb. | 21:11 |
| alecuyer | otherwise, I still have unit tests to fix to go with the http/rpc change | 21:11 |
| zaitcev | I'm going to ask for some kind of technical overview at PTG. | 21:11 |
| alecuyer | zaitcev: tell me more :) here or outside the meeting, whichever is best | 21:11 |
| timburke | well, how about after | 21:13 |
| timburke | any other topics that should give updates? | 21:14 |
| kota_ | it looks like zaitcev wants to do that in PTG | 21:14 |
| timburke | er, on which we should give updates? i suppose the topic itself can't provide an update... | 21:14 |
| timburke | #topic PTG | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:15 | |
| timburke | mattoliverau was great and already set up an etherpad | 21:16 |
| timburke | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-train | 21:16 |
| timburke | i seeded a few topics; feel free to add more | 21:16 |
| timburke | and of course, add yourself to topics you're interested in | 21:16 |
| * kota_ will do | 21:16 | |
| timburke | i ought to book a slot for the team photo -- does anyone have a preference for Thursday or Friday? | 21:17 |
| zaitcev | either one okay by me | 21:17 |
| timburke | looking at the days that people put on the etherpad, it seems like either will probably be fine... | 21:18 |
| timburke | does anyone have a preference for morning or afternoon? | 21:18 |
| clayg | Morning | 21:18 |
| mattoliverau | I think I need to look at the strawman shedule again.. but I think either is fine | 21:19 |
| clayg | I can get ragged after a long day of ptg’ing | 21:19 |
| timburke | all right, i'll pick a slot | 21:19 |
| notmyname | clay's suggestion of morning is good. doesn't matter the day. but morning or right next to lunch doens't interrupt the flow | 21:20 |
| timburke | that's it for the agenda | 21:20 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:20 | |
| timburke | (booked the photo for 11:20 on Thursday) | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | nice | 21:21 |
| kota_ | good | 21:21 |
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| timburke | who has other things to bring up? | 21:21 |
| notmyname | the release happened! | 21:22 |
| notmyname | ie the big ol' openstack stein release | 21:22 |
| notmyname | so there's marketing around that | 21:22 |
| timburke | totally did. there's a Stein! let's celebrate with beer | 21:22 |
| kota_ | nice | 21:22 |
| notmyname | doesn't affect us *too* much (since we tagged a while back), but celebrate the wins :-) | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | oh a swift stein would be an awesome peice of shwag | 21:23 |
| timburke | notmyname, you've done shirts before... how about it? ;-) | 21:23 |
| notmyname | that would be cool, but it's a bit late for that. take a few months to make shirts | 21:24 |
| notmyname | well, at least the way i've done them in the past | 21:24 |
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| timburke | so, i started poking at the quadiron patches. i think one of them may break compat for phazr, though :-/ | 21:25 |
| timburke | and i realized that i really want to restructure the libec unit tests, so we could have a separate job per external backend | 21:26 |
| kota_ | sounds good | 21:27 |
| timburke | anyone have anything else? | 21:28 |
| timburke | thanks for coming, and thank you all for working on swift! | 21:30 |
| alecuyer | thanks tim | 21:30 |
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| timburke | i'll see most (all?) of you soon in Denver! | 21:30 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 10 21:30:42 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-04-10-21.00.html | 21:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-04-10-21.00.txt | 21:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-04-10-21.00.log.html | 21:30 |
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| mattoliverau | thanks timburke | 21:31 |
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