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| samP___ | #startmeeting masakari | 04:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 16 04:02:58 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP___. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:03 |
| samP___ | Hi all for Masakari | 04:03 |
| shilpasd | Hi samP | 04:03 |
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| samP___ | shilpasd: Hi | 04:03 |
| tashiromt__ | Hi | 04:04 |
| samP___ | #topic critical bugs and patches | 04:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "critical bugs and patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:04 | |
| samP___ | Any critical patches or bug need to discuss? | 04:05 |
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| samP___ | if any please bring up anytime in the meeting | 04:06 |
| samP___ | #topic AOB | 04:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:06 | |
| samP___ | We planned to discuss Train work items this week IRC. However, I couldn't finish listing them. I would like to postpone it to next week | 04:07 |
| samP___ | If you have any work items for Train, please add them to following etherpad | 04:07 |
| samP___ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-train-workitems | 04:07 |
| tashiromt__ | Thanks for sharing | 04:07 |
| shilpasd | Okay, thank you | 04:08 |
| samP___ | No more topics from my side to discuss. | 04:08 |
| samP___ | if no other topics, then we can finish the meeting today. | 04:08 |
| tashiromt__ | I do not have any topics today | 04:10 |
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| samP___ | Seems link no other topics to discuss. Let's finish today's meeting. Please use #openstack-masakari IRC @freenode or openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org ML for further discussion. | 04:11 |
| samP___ | Thank you all for join! | 04:11 |
| samP___ | #endmeeting | 04:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 16 04:11:59 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-04-16-04.02.html | 04:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-04-16-04.02.txt | 04:12 |
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| dkushwaha_ | #startmeeting tacker | 08:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 16 08:05:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkushwaha_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:05 |
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| dkushwaha_ | #topic Roll Call | 08:05 |
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| dkushwaha_ | who is here for Tacker weekly meeting? | 08:05 |
| hyunsikyang | Hi | 08:07 |
| JangwonLee | hi | 08:07 |
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| dkushwaha_ | hello hyunsikyang JangwonLee | 08:08 |
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| dkushwaha_ | seems no more members today | 08:10 |
| dkushwaha_ | hyunsikyang: JangwonLee do you have something to discuss, otherwise we can skip it for today? | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang | not quite much, yet. We will update blueprint soon. | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha_ | ok | 08:13 |
| hyunsikyang | Because we are considering the parameter for VNFD. So, you just check it later. | 08:13 |
| hyunsikyang | And I wanna discuss about presentation material. | 08:13 |
| dkushwaha_ | ok, so lets close this meeting, and will be available on Tacker channel for further discussions | 08:14 |
| hyunsikyang | OK:) | 08:14 |
| dkushwaha_ | Thanks | 08:14 |
| dkushwaha_ | #endmeeting | 08:14 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-04-16-08.05.html | 08:14 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 16 16:00:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:00 |
| slaweq | first of all | 16:00 |
| slaweq | Grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:00 |
| slaweq | please open it now | 16:00 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| slaweq | first one: mlavalle to debug reasons of neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario failures | 16:01 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: I spent not as much time as I wanted. so no conclusions here yet | 16:01 |
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| slaweq | sure, lets assign it to You for next week as reminder, ok? | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | please | 16:02 |
| slaweq | #action mlavalle to debug reasons of neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario failures | 16:03 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:03 |
| slaweq | so lets go the next one | 16:03 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh to report and triage new fullstack test_min_bw_qos_policy_rule_lifecycle failure | 16:03 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, I think that was solved | 16:03 |
| ralonsoh | do you have the launchpad id? | 16:03 |
| slaweq | no, I don't have it now | 16:04 |
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| ralonsoh | slaweq, ok, let me check it, I'll report it later | 16:04 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: was it this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1824138 ? | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1824138 in neutron "Fullstack QoS tests should not handle other tests port events" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 16:05 |
| slaweq | ok, so it's not fixed yet | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | and the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651523/ | 16:05 |
| slaweq | please review this patch if You will have some time mlavalle :) | 16:06 |
| slaweq | thx ralonsoh for fixing this bug :) | 16:06 |
| ralonsoh | np | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: ack | 16:06 |
| ralonsoh | we need to back port it to stein | 16:06 |
| slaweq | I saw You added tag for backport also, will You take care of it once it will be merged? | 16:07 |
| ralonsoh | sure | 16:07 |
| slaweq | thx a lot | 16:07 |
| slaweq | ok, next one then | 16:07 |
| slaweq | slaweq to report and debug yet another db migration functional tests issue | 16:07 |
| slaweq | I reopened old bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1687027 for it | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1687027 in neutron "test_walk_versions tests fail with "IndexError: tuple index out of range" after timeout" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:07 |
| slaweq | And sent a patch https://review.openstack.org/651371 | 16:07 |
| slaweq | it's merged now and I didn't saw same issues again in last couple of days | 16:07 |
| slaweq | so hopefully it will be better now | 16:08 |
| slaweq | but if You would see something like that, please ping me :) | 16:08 |
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| slaweq | ok, next one | 16:08 |
| slaweq | * mlavalle will send DNM patch which will add tcpdump in routers' namespaces to debug ssh issue | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/653021/ | 16:09 |
| bcafarel | nice so these failing-again tests were "just" because of different raised exception? good to have fixed | 16:09 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: yes, it seems so :) | 16:10 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: thx nice, clean patch :) | 16:10 |
| slaweq | I hope we will spot this issue and we will be able to debug something from it | 16:10 |
| slaweq | next one was: | 16:11 |
| slaweq | slaweq will send DNM patch to tempest to dump router's namespace state when ssh will fail | 16:11 |
| slaweq | and I didn't have time to do that :/ sorry | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I will add it for myself for this week | 16:11 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq will send DNM patch to tempest to dump router's namespace state when ssh will fail | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: add an action to me to recheck the tcpdump patch and analyze output | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | please | 16:12 |
| slaweq | #action mlavalle to recheck tcpdump patch and analyze output from ci jobs | 16:12 |
| slaweq | here You go :) | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 16:12 |
| slaweq | and the last one (but not least) | 16:13 |
| slaweq | njohnston move wsgi jobs to check queue nonvoting | 16:13 |
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| slaweq | I don't think he did it this week | 16:14 |
| slaweq | I will assign it to him for next time to not forget | 16:14 |
| slaweq | #action njohnston move wsgi jobs to check queue nonvoting | 16:14 |
| slaweq | ok, that's all actions from last week | 16:14 |
| slaweq | anything You want to add/ask? | 16:15 |
| slaweq | ok, so lets move on | 16:16 |
| slaweq | #topic Python 3 | 16:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:16 | |
| slaweq | Stadium projects etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_python3_status | 16:16 |
| slaweq | I don't think there was any progress on it recently | 16:16 |
| slaweq | I'm looking into this etherpad now and I see that most of those py27 jobs are still defined as legacy jobs, so we should also try to move them to zuulv3 | 16:17 |
| slaweq | I will probably have some time to work on those slowly after PTG | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:18 |
| slaweq | but I also think that for projects like midonet or odl we will need some help from teams which are responsible for it | 16:19 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 16:19 |
| slaweq | as e.g. I have no any knowledge about those projects, configs and so on | 16:19 |
| slaweq | and probably none of us have such knowledge | 16:19 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: do You think it is reasonable to add such (short) topic to PTG etherpad? | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | we can ask yamamoto and manjeets can help | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | and yes, let's discuss it in Denver | 16:20 |
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| slaweq | ok, I will add it to etherpad then | 16:20 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:20 |
| slaweq | anything You want to add regarding python3? | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | not from me | 16:21 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on then | 16:21 |
| slaweq | next topic | 16:21 |
| slaweq | #topic tempest-plugins migration | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tempest-plugins migration (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:21 | |
| slaweq | Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_move_to_tempest_plugin_repo | 16:21 |
| bcafarel | just checking the agenda can probably have a "stadium in general" section (even if it will probably be short) | 16:22 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: good point, I can change it :) | 16:22 |
| slaweq | so regarding to tempest plugins, I just send today first PS for bgpvpn project https://review.openstack.org/652991 | 16:22 |
| slaweq | lets see how much I will be missing there | 16:23 |
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| slaweq | I also saw that bcafarel send new patch set for sfc today, right? | 16:23 |
| bcafarel | and I finally sent first WIP or SFC https://review.openstack.org/#/c/653012 | 16:23 |
| bcafarel | :) | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | I updated my patch | 16:23 |
| slaweq | one question which I want to ask here | 16:24 |
| bcafarel | I kept the same layout as njohnston suggested in fwaas neutron_tempest_plugin/fwaas/{api|scenario|...} | 16:24 |
| slaweq | e.g. in bcafarel's patch I see that there is neutron_tempest_plugin/sfc/services/flowclassifier_client.py file | 16:24 |
| slaweq | I moved bgpvpn_client.py file to be in neutron_tempest_plugin/services/network/json/ directory | 16:25 |
| slaweq | do You think that we should do it in some consistent way for all patches? | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | I originally did what slaweq did | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | but then I saw what njohnston and bcafarel did and I think it is better | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | This is my latest revision https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649373/ | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | I suggest we all stick to the same approach | 16:26 |
| slaweq | ok, so I will move it back in my patch :) | 16:27 |
| slaweq | and we will be consistent with it | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | I also have a question.... | 16:27 |
| bcafarel | "everything related to a stadium project tests in its own subfolder" right? | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | yeap bcafarel | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | going back to my question | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | as you can see, Tempest is now attempting to run the vpnaas test: http://logs.openstack.org/73/649373/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-vpnaas/2019e3f/testr_results.html.gz | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | but they are skipped, becuase vpnaas is not confirgured in the tempest config | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | whre is this file? | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | it's been driving me crazy the past 30 minutes | 16:29 |
| slaweq | are You asking about http://logs.openstack.org/73/649373/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-vpnaas/2019e3f/controller/logs/tempest_conf.txt.gz ? | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | correct | 16:30 |
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| mlavalle | I think I have to add vpnaas as a service to the extensions, right? | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | to pass this check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649373/5/neutron_tempest_plugin/vpnaas/api/test_vpnaas.py@44 | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | where do I add it? | 16:32 |
| slaweq | yes, to neutron extensions list I think | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | yeah, but where in the tempest plugin repo is that file? | 16:32 |
| slaweq | https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/.zuul.yaml#L17 | 16:33 |
| slaweq | it is defined in .zuul.yaml file | 16:33 |
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| mlavalle | ok, thanks | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | driving me crazy the past 30 minutes | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | ufff! | 16:34 |
| slaweq | You should do it in similar way like in https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/.zuul.yaml#L304 | 16:34 |
| slaweq | so use "standard" ones and add "vpnaas" to it | 16:34 |
| * bcafarel takes notes for next sfc patchset too | 16:34 | |
| slaweq | or set only vpnaas will be enough, I'm not sure | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | ok, thanks! | 16:34 |
| slaweq | yw | 16:35 |
| slaweq | ok, can we move on to the next topic then? | 16:35 |
| bcafarel | good for me | 16:35 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:36 | |
| mlavalle | yes please | 16:36 |
| slaweq | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:36 |
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| slaweq | I don't see anything what would be going bad recently | 16:37 |
| slaweq | in fact I think that it's quite good comparing to what was couple of weeks ago | 16:38 |
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| mlavalle | yes, I agree | 16:38 |
| slaweq | I was even going today through some results of recent jobs to find some examples of failures and I only found some issues with SSH (which is known) | 16:39 |
| slaweq | some failures not related to neutron directly | 16:39 |
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| slaweq | and some failures e.g. in fullstack or functional jobs related to patch on which it was running | 16:39 |
| slaweq | do You see anything what You want to discuss now? | 16:40 |
| mlavalle | no, it looks good overall to me | 16:40 |
| mlavalle | what do you think bcafarel ? | 16:40 |
| bcafarel | loosk good to me too :) | 16:41 |
| bcafarel | I will send patch soon to update http://grafana.openstack.org/d/pM54U-Kiz/neutron-failure-rate-previous-stable-release?orgId=1 (and "older stable" too) to point to stein and rocky now that stein is out | 16:41 |
| slaweq | ok | 16:41 |
| slaweq | thx bcafarel :) | 16:41 |
| slaweq | so, lets talk a bit about tempest job now | 16:41 |
| bcafarel | np, it should not be too complicated :) | 16:41 |
| slaweq | #topic Tempest/Scenario | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest/Scenario (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:42 | |
| slaweq | I saw one strange failure in http://logs.openstack.org/27/642527/4/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-api/9aeecb7/testr_results.html.gz | 16:42 |
| slaweq | it is strange for me because it looks like it failed because GET returned no body | 16:42 |
| slaweq | But from logs it looks that all was fine: http://logs.openstack.org/27/642527/4/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-api/9aeecb7/controller/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz#_Apr_15_12_46_02_995043 | 16:43 |
| slaweq | and what is the most strange for me is that it failed in line https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/neutron_tempest_plugin/api/admin/test_network_segment_range.py#L209 | 16:43 |
| slaweq | and it somehow passed assertions in above lines | 16:43 |
| slaweq | but I have no idea how it is possible | 16:43 |
| slaweq | maybe someone wants to take a look at it and will find something what I missed there :) | 16:44 |
| ralonsoh | I'll try to debug this tomorrow | 16:44 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: thx a lot | 16:44 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ping you if I find something | 16:44 |
| slaweq | great | 16:44 |
| slaweq | I will add it as an action for You to not forget about it, ok? | 16:45 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 16:45 |
| slaweq | #action ralonsoh to debug issue with neutron_tempest_plugin.api.admin.test_network_segment_range test | 16:45 |
| slaweq | thx a lot :) | 16:45 |
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| slaweq | and that was the only new case which I found recently and wanted to raise here | 16:45 |
| mlavalle | cool | 16:46 |
| slaweq | anything else You want to talk about? | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | not from me | 16:46 |
| bcafarel | nothing new either | 16:46 |
| slaweq | ok, so last topic for today | 16:46 |
| slaweq | #topic Periodic | 16:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Periodic (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:46 | |
| slaweq | I have only one question regarding to periodic jobs | 16:47 |
| slaweq | we are running those jobs with python 35 still | 16:47 |
| slaweq | should we move them to py36? | 16:47 |
| mlavalle | i think so | 16:47 |
| slaweq | there was email from gmann about that recently | 16:47 |
| bcafarel | probably yes, as they are getting dropped in "normal" jobs | 16:47 |
| slaweq | ok, so I will propose patch for that this week | 16:47 |
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| slaweq | #action slaweq to switch periodic jobs from py35 to py36 | 16:48 |
| gmann | yeah, we need to move periodic job to py36. thanks slaweq | 16:48 |
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| slaweq | gmann: thx for confirmation :) | 16:48 |
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| slaweq | ok, thats all from my side for today | 16:48 |
| slaweq | if You don't have anything else I will give You 10 minutes back today | 16:49 |
| mlavalle | I take those 10 minute | 16:49 |
| mlavalle | how about you ralonsoh and bcafarel | 16:49 |
| bcafarel | 10 minutes back sounds great indeed :) | 16:49 |
| ralonsoh | nothing from me | 16:49 |
| slaweq | Happy Easter and see You next week then :) | 16:49 |
| slaweq | thx for attending | 16:49 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 16 16:49:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
| slaweq | o/ | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-04-16-16.00.html | 16:50 |
| mlavalle | same to you all | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-04-16-16.00.txt | 16:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-04-16-16.00.log.html | 16:50 |
| ralonsoh | bye! | 16:50 |
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| clarkb | anyone else here for the infra meeting? | 18:59 |
| clarkb | we will get started shortly | 18:59 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:59 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 18:59 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| fungi | aloha | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 16 19:01:10 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-April/006311.html | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
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| mordred | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | Week after next is the summit and ptg. I expect we'll be skipping the meeting on April 30 as a result | 19:02 |
| clarkb | If those not attending want to have the meeting I have no objection. I just won't be able to put an agenda together or run it that day | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-04-09-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:03 |
| clarkb | There were no recorded actions that meeting and I believe all the actiosn from the prior had been done | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | I think we've all largely been focused on implementing the opendev git hosting spec, config mgmt update spaces and the LE implementation so nothing to add under this topic | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | Lets dive right into the fun stuff | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| fungi | whee! | 19:04 |
| clarkb | I wrote down some specific questions about our planned migration on friday in the agenda | 19:04 |
| clarkb | Firstup is we should probably set some specific times | 19:04 |
| clarkb | I think my preference would be to get started as early in the day as people find reasonable so that we have the whole day to clean up after ourselves :) | 19:05 |
| corvus | first thing pacific time? what's that -- 1500? | 19:05 |
| clarkb | ya 1500UTC is 8am pacific | 19:05 |
| fungi | as noted earlier, it's my 5th wedding anniversary so i'll have all my stuff done and up for review ahead of time but will only be around off and on for friday so will chip in when i can | 19:06 |
| fungi | though i plan to be around most of the weekend to help unbreak whatever we missed | 19:06 |
| corvus | mordred: 1500 work for you? | 19:07 |
| clarkb | maybe we say something like starting at 1500UTC the infra/opendev team will begin work to perform the repo hosting migration. Expect outages off and on with gerrit and git hosting services through the day, particularly earlier in the day. | 19:07 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:08 |
| corvus | clarkb: sounds good | 19:08 |
| clarkb | ok I'll work to send some followup emails with those details | 19:08 |
| clarkb | Next on my list is "are we ready? what do we need to get done before friday?" | 19:08 |
| fungi | i'm about to push up the script which *generates* the mapping of renames (i know that wasn't a task in the story, but it became necessary to correlate the dozen or so data sources used to make that decision) and will then send a link to a breakdown of that mapping to the relevant mailing lists | 19:09 |
| mordred | corvus: ++ | 19:09 |
| fungi | and i'm about halfway through composing the script to do the repository edits themselves | 19:09 |
| clarkb | ok so waiting on the changes that gerneate those lists. I think we should also freeze new project creation at this point | 19:09 |
| fungi | which i'm planning to also benchmark with a full set of data from review.o.o | 19:09 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:09 |
| corvus | fungi: do you need anyone to jump in and pick up tasks, or are you okay? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | it will just simplify fungi's list generation to not have to accomodate new projects | 19:09 |
| fungi | well, the list generation is dynamic | 19:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: I know but people will want to review them | 19:10 |
| fungi | but it relies on some data sources we may want to urge projects to quiesce, like openstack's projects.yaml in governance | 19:10 |
| fungi | i'm fine with freezing project creation for sure | 19:10 |
| fungi | just thinking that, for example, since folks create new projects before they get added to governance there's a bit of a race where we may rename something we shouldn't | 19:11 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:11 |
| fungi | so maybe if jroll could encourage the tc to quickly flush any pending changes of that nature | 19:11 |
| clarkb | Another thing that I think would be helpful is if we write down our plan in an etherpad like we've done in the past | 19:12 |
| clarkb | there are fair number of moving parts here like dns updates and renaming things in gerrit and in gitea etc that having that written down will be good | 19:12 |
| jroll | guh, sorry, missed this meeting (and have another meeting shortly) | 19:12 |
| jroll | fungi: will do | 19:12 |
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| clarkb | my head is currently unhappy so I'm not sure I'd get to writing down that plan today, but I can probably start on that tomorrow | 19:13 |
| clarkb | if anyone else is interested in writing the steps down too feel free to start :) | 19:13 |
| fungi | the mappnig generator is just down to me working out how to consume an ethercalc export on the fly now | 19:13 |
| clarkb | We have a repo rename request on the meeting agenda wiki page as well. Is that somethign we want to incorporate into this transition or do in a followup? | 19:14 |
| fungi | it can be incorporated (i guess by adding to the spreadsheet would be one way) or we can save it to exercise the rename tooling after the mass migration | 19:15 |
| corvus | either works for me; i'll yield to fungi's opinion on that | 19:16 |
| clarkb | yielding to fungi wfm. | 19:16 |
| fungi | the way i'm incorporating the renames ethercalc, it's as a final override, so adding it there would take care of incorporating it | 19:17 |
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| fungi | hrm, actually looking back at my script, no it's not unless it's not already part of another project | 19:18 |
| clarkb | Other things to consider: airship is apparently trying to do a release on monday. But they never brought this up in the emails we sent or in these meetings so I'm not seeing that as a blocker | 19:18 |
| fungi | so maybe we hold it for the week after? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: in that case asving it for later seems fine | 19:18 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm leaning toward that so i don't revisit my current logic | 19:18 |
| clarkb | Anything else we should be thinking about while we've got everyone here? | 19:19 |
| * mordred feels like he shoul dhave more thoughts of things to think about, but cant' think of any such thoughts | 19:20 | |
| corvus | are we set on tls? | 19:20 |
| clarkb | corvus: for gerrit I guess? fungi did you get a cert for gerrit when you got one for gitea? | 19:21 |
| fungi | yep, it's already in the certs dir | 19:21 |
| clarkb | er gitea was already done so the recent one must've been for gerrit. cool | 19:21 |
| fungi | pulled that one just in case we wanted it | 19:21 |
| corvus | ianw: there was talk of using LE -- is that ready, or should we stick with manual certs now? | 19:22 |
| fungi | didn't want this to become a letsencrypt scramble on top of opendev migration | 19:22 |
| ianw | corvus: yeah, best to leave that, it can be done asynchronously under less pressure. it's the puppet-ish deployment bits that will need thinking on | 19:22 |
| corvus | k | 19:22 |
| corvus | https://review.openstack.org/653108 needs approval :) | 19:23 |
| clarkb | and we'll probably need a change to our apache config on review.openstack.org to redirect review.openstack to review.opendev ? | 19:24 |
| corvus | and i guess we should prepare a change to do redirects from review.openstack to review.opendev | 19:24 |
| corvus | clarkb: jinx | 19:24 |
| clarkb | oh and update the canonical name of the server | 19:24 |
| corvus | that's all i can think of | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | seems like a plan is coming together. This is exciting | 19:25 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | Continuing to make good progress on the puppet-4 transition. Ran into issues where there are no puppet-4 arm64 packages so we'll be excluding the arm servers from puppet-4 | 19:27 |
| cmurphy | i think we're almost done | 19:27 |
| cmurphy | nodepool servers are next up | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ianw has started work for removing support for puppet3 from stuff as well | 19:27 |
| clarkb | this allows us to update puppet moduels to versions that require at least puppet 4 | 19:27 |
| ianw | yeah, if we could look at the grafana review, i can babysit that one | 19:28 |
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| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/652443/ | 19:28 |
| ianw | that's ontop of the skip puppet3 fix too | 19:29 |
| clarkb | on the docker side of things we've run into a few issues. Docker is still ignoring my PR for the ipv6 stuff (and the bug I filed). Skopeo has the same issue ( I think because it uses docker's parsing rules for docker:// urls). Also our insecure-ci-registry filled up with images so we'll have to set up garbage collection or different disk backing to address that | 19:29 |
| cmurphy | i think dropping puppet 3 will be easier to do in one big sweep after everything is migrated | 19:29 |
| corvus | clarkb: i think skopeo may literally use the docker code for that | 19:30 |
| clarkb | corvus: yup I think so. I have a PR up to fix that code so hopefully eventually that gets addressed | 19:30 |
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| corvus | i'm concerned the docker project may be effectively dead; every problem we've encountered has been described by a 2-year old open issue | 19:30 |
| corvus | er, every *other* problem :) | 19:31 |
| clarkb | yes I've been wondering about that too especially given the lack of resposne on my PR and bug | 19:31 |
| clarkb | so we may want to investigate alternative tools for building, pushing, and hosting images | 19:31 |
| corvus | yeah; though if skopeo has the same problem.. yeesh | 19:32 |
| corvus | perhaps we should open a skopeo issue? | 19:32 |
| mordred | corvus: that said - we know people on the skopeo side and they're actiev and responsive | 19:32 |
| mordred | yeah | 19:32 |
| mordred | like - it seems like a place where we should be able to get the issue resolved | 19:33 |
| corvus | at least if they are faced with "docker is sitting on this bug" they may have more options | 19:33 |
| mordred | yuo | 19:33 |
| mordred | yup | 19:33 |
| corvus | clarkb: would you mind opening that issue, then poke me so i can poke mordred to poke other people? :) | 19:33 |
| clarkb | sure. I can point them at my docker side issue too | 19:33 |
| corvus | ya | 19:33 |
| clarkb | anything else around config management updates? | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | fungi: diablo_rojo: I've been so heads down on other things recently. Anything new here | 19:36 |
| fungi | same | 19:36 |
| fungi | oh, getting close with the telemetry migration at least | 19:36 |
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| fungi | performed a test import of all their deliverables from lp onto storyboard-dev last week | 19:37 |
| fungi | though right now the ptl lacks control of the lp projects to be able to close down bug reporting there, so is trying to coordinate access with former project members (the groups are not owned by openstack administrators) | 19:37 |
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| mordred | of course they're not | 19:38 |
| clarkb | fun | 19:39 |
| clarkb | alright lets move on we have 20 minutes left for the remainder of our agenda | 19:39 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | ianw: did you want to give us a quick update on the letsencrypt progress? graphite01.opendev.org is letsencrypted now. What are the next steps etc | 19:40 |
| ianw | restarting services when certificates change is probably the last bit of global infrastructure | 19:41 |
| ianw | i have a proposal up using handlers, and clarkb has a different approach too | 19:41 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/652801 | 19:41 |
| clarkb | I'm not tied to my approach and handlers are probably more ansibley | 19:42 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/650384 | 19:42 |
| ianw | i think we can sort that out in review | 19:42 |
| ianw | after that, it's really just service by service, deciding on how to deploy the keys into production | 19:42 |
| clarkb | great progress. thank you for taking that on | 19:42 |
| clarkb | I'm actually really happy with the setup we ended up with. I think it gives us good flexibility and isn't terribly complicated | 19:43 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:43 |
| clarkb | next up is the trusty upgrade backlog | 19:43 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/201808-infra-server-upgrades-and-cleanup | 19:43 |
| clarkb | lists.openstack.org was upgraded last friday | 19:43 |
| clarkb | The only minor hiccup was a stale lock file for the openstack vhost | 19:44 |
| clarkb | once we cleared that out everything was happy | 19:44 |
| clarkb | Need volunteers for static, ask, refstack, and wiki | 19:44 |
| clarkb | er just static, ask and refstack now I think | 19:44 |
| clarkb | thank you mordred and fungi for volunteering to do status and wiki | 19:44 |
| clarkb | but also I expect we'll be idle on this task this week as the opendev transition is the big focus | 19:44 |
| cmurphy | so that can be puppet-4'd now too right? | 19:45 |
| mordred | yah | 19:45 |
| fungi | could use a second review on the next bit for the wiki | 19:45 |
| clarkb | cmurphy: yes | 19:45 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/651352 Replace transitional package names for Xenial | 19:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: also - do we really need status as a separate host from static at this point? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mordred: that I don't know | 19:45 |
| mordred | I'll loop back around on that with folks in channel | 19:45 |
| fungi | mordred: status runs some services, at least some of elasticrecheck i think? | 19:45 |
| mordred | oh yeah. good point | 19:46 |
| clarkb | The last item on the agenda comes from zbr | 19:46 |
| mordred | elasticrecheck and health are the only two things on status that continue to be useful things - the rest of the things are vestigal | 19:46 |
| clarkb | Removal of ugo+rw chmod from default job definitions | 19:46 |
| clarkb | zbr: ^ are you here to talk about this? | 19:46 |
| clarkb | "Mainly this insanely unsafe chmod does prevent ansible from loading ansible.cfg files from our repos. That is happening from "Change zuul-cloner permissions" task which is run even for basic jobs like openstack-tox-py* ones." is the quote from the agenda | 19:47 |
| corvus | i'm all for it; is there a proposed solution? | 19:48 |
| clarkb | iirc pabelanger and mordred intended to address this by not runnign zuul-cloner compat by default | 19:48 |
| clarkb | so jobs would have to opt into the chmod sillyness | 19:48 |
| ianw | the role says "Make repositories writable so that people can hardlink" | 19:48 |
| mordred | I think that distills down to "remove zuul-cloner from base job" yeah? | 19:48 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya d-g in particular will hardlink those iirc | 19:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya | 19:48 |
| pabelanger | yah | 19:49 |
| fungi | at least if it's on the same filesystem | 19:49 |
| corvus | right, so the action needed is for someone to figure out which jobs still need that, make sure they have it, then remove from base | 19:49 |
| fungi | is it still in base, or only in legacy-base? | 19:49 |
| fungi | for some reason i thought the latter | 19:49 |
| clarkb | I believe it is still in base | 19:49 |
| clarkb | because we realized we'd break a bunch of things a year or so ago when we first looked at moving it | 19:50 |
| corvus | alternatively, just make it be that ^ and let chips fall where they may | 19:50 |
| fungi | ahh | 19:50 |
| mordred | yeah - I'm kind of inclined to just do the swap to make sure it's in legacy-base | 19:51 |
| mordred | if a job breaks from missing it - it's an easy fix | 19:51 |
| corvus | wfm | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 19:51 |
| clarkb | maybe a post summit/ptg activity considering all the other ways we are going to break the jobs on friday :P | 19:51 |
| clarkb | but ya that seems like a reasonable path forward | 19:52 |
| clarkb | zbr: ^ hopefully that clears things up for you | 19:52 |
| mordred | clarkb: what is the role in question here? | 19:52 |
| mordred | fetch-zuul-cloner does not show up in base - but does show up in legacy base | 19:52 |
| clarkb | oh maybe we have moved it then? | 19:53 |
| clarkb | mordred: zbr claims openstack-tox-py* is affected by this | 19:53 |
| mordred | weird | 19:53 |
| clarkb | are those legacy based jobs? | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | no, it is still in base. I seen it the zuul release job a few hours ago | 19:54 |
| mordred | pabelanger: really? it's not showing up in git-grep for me - so maybe I'm just bad at computers | 19:54 |
| pabelanger | https://opendev.org/opendev/base-jobs/src/branch/master/playbooks/base/pre.yaml#L38 | 19:54 |
| mordred | ah. I didn't grep opendev/base-jobs. whoops | 19:55 |
| clarkb | ok we are almost out of time. I think we have a general plan forward on this | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:57 |
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| clarkb | anything else before our hour is up? | 19:57 |
| dtroyer | I am looking to set up some github integration with Zuul for starlingx, eyeing the kata setup, a) is that the right model, b) is that best left for after Friday? | 19:57 |
| clarkb | dtroyer: we can discuss it after the meeting in the infra channel likely | 19:58 |
| clarkb | in general though I think we've found that we can't reasonably support github hosted projects | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | (we learned a lot with kata) | 19:58 |
| dtroyer | ah, ok | 19:58 |
| fungi | there was an official statement we sent to the infra ml a few months ago? | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and we are at time. Thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | fungi: yup Isent a note to clarify our position on it to the infra list | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 16 20:00:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-04-16-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-04-16-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-04-16-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 16 21:00:17 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Greetings SIG | 21:00 |
| rbudden | hello | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #link Agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_April_16th_2019 | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Hey rbudden, hody | 21:00 |
| oneswig | (I mean, howdy) | 21:00 |
| rbudden | heh | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | Martial sends apologies as he has family commitments this week | 21:01 |
| elox | Hello from Sweden, Erik Lönroth http://eriklonroth.com here. | 21:01 |
| rbudden | unfortunately i have to bounce early to pickup my son, but i’ll catch up on the logs afterwards | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | elox: Hi, welcome :-) | 21:01 |
| elox | thanx! | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Thanks for coming along | 21:02 |
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| elox | Hope to learn and contribute. | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Great! | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Seems like it might be a short meeting this week though - with the run-up to Easter a few folks are out | 21:03 |
| oneswig | OK, let's get going... | 21:03 |
| oneswig | #topic Ironic and external DCIM | 21:03 |
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| oneswig | The context here is there was some discussion last week with the CERN team (Arne in particular) | 21:04 |
| martial | (On phone as discussed) | 21:04 |
| oneswig | They've got a big server enrollment imminent and are looking again at how they might streamline that | 21:04 |
| oneswig | hey martial, you made it :-) | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:05 |
| oneswig | #link previous week's discussion http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-10-10.59.log.html#l-17 | 21:05 |
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| oneswig | If I can summarise correctly, the conclusion was that they'd like a means to store inspection data in an external infrastructure management DB (eg, Netbox, etc) | 21:06 |
| oneswig | And to update periodically if possible to keep the information current | 21:07 |
| elox | Is there anyone from their team here? | 21:07 |
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| oneswig | Arne's looking at candidate technologies and wants to consider things that people are actually using | 21:08 |
| b1airo | o/ | 21:08 |
| oneswig | elox: Not as far as I know... | 21:08 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo :-) | 21:08 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:08 |
| TheJulia | So following up dtantsur's comment, we've also discussed downstream building a reporting agent to provide a greater detail, but it would only really be viable in self hosted environments and there are items that would need to be worked out to make something viable like that. | 21:08 |
| oneswig | Hi TheJulia, thanks for joining | 21:09 |
| oneswig | What do you mean by self-hosted in this context? Sorry. | 21:09 |
| TheJulia | operator that is willing to trust and deploy an agent with-in their workload | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Ah, thanks. | 21:10 |
| TheJulia | The end idea, possibly being keeping ironic's inspection data fairly up to date. | 21:11 |
| oneswig | That's not ideal, in many cases people wouldn't want that. | 21:11 |
| TheJulia | Out of band... while seems perfect, we're also talking about embedded systems that are easy to put in weird states that cause them to lock up for a little while which is also not ideal | 21:12 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: I think there was some discussion around the cleaning phase being an option for periodic re-inspection? | 21:12 |
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| TheJulia | oneswig: possibly, the case we have is we want to somehow capture a drive swap | 21:12 |
| TheJulia | or the addition of a disk | 21:12 |
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| oneswig | I see. Hence wanting to track while an instance is live? | 21:13 |
| TheJulia | For which the usefulness is kind pointless. That being said during cleaning to have a check-in with inspector just seems like some minor-ish logic in inspector | 21:13 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: exactly. | 21:13 |
| oneswig | The sense I got was that within Ironic many of the pieces for a solution (that met many needs) were already within reach. | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Although it sounds like your problem case is still beyond that. | 21:15 |
| oneswig | Arne was looking for a shortlist of systems people use for DCIM. | 21:16 |
| oneswig | So far I recall the list included Xcat, Netbox, Infoblox, possibly OpenDCIM | 21:16 |
| oneswig | rbudden: do you know what you're using at GSFC? | 21:16 |
| rbudden | we use xcat | 21:17 |
| oneswig | Arne's list was actually longer... i-doit, CMDBuild, SnipeIT, SysAid, Spiceworks, GLPI, NetBox, xcat | 21:17 |
| oneswig | thanks rbudden, I'll make sure that's fed back. How about you elox? | 21:18 |
| trandles | Hi folks. Sorry, was logged in and STILL late to the meeting. | 21:18 |
| oneswig | Hi trandles! | 21:18 |
| oneswig | trandles: Just talking solutions for DCIM | 21:19 |
| rbudden | ironically at GSFC xcat is used for baremetal provisioning and some lightweight VMs that aren’t openstack controlled, but there is interest in entertaining Ironic for future HPC clusters | 21:19 |
| trandles | DCIM is a hot topic | 21:20 |
| elox | We are using MaaS | 21:20 |
| oneswig | trandles: the circles in which you move... :-) | 21:20 |
| oneswig | thanks elox, good to know | 21:20 |
| trandles | I'd like to hear a lot about other's experiences. We don't have a comprehensive DCIM right now but we might be pushed in that direction. Would be beneficial to have a head start when it does come to the fore. | 21:21 |
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| oneswig | trandles: from the data gathered so far, it's a pretty diverse set of tools in use. | 21:21 |
| elox | trandles: We are really keen on sharing our experiences. | 21:22 |
| jmlowe | Hey, sorry I'm late | 21:22 |
| oneswig | Hi jmlowe, no problem :-) | 21:22 |
| oneswig | Currently surveying DCIMs in use - care to contribute a data point for IU? | 21:22 |
| jmlowe | We have one, I ignore it | 21:23 |
| TheJulia | I'm kind of curious if there is a reason why | 21:23 |
| oneswig | fair enough :-) probably not a good recommendation | 21:23 |
| TheJulia | Which sounds awful, but it gives everyone a data point in terms of is there a process or use for DCIM that might not be ideal | 21:24 |
| jmlowe | looks like opendcim | 21:24 |
| trandles | Our current issues with DCIM probably aren't unique. We have several siloed systems that came from vendors and only really work well with their equipment, where "equipment" is largely power and cooling. They call them "DCIM" but I don't think they know what that means in a larger sense. | 21:24 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: Is it bad, or just not relevant to your workflows? | 21:24 |
| jmlowe | not relevant, key info in when systems come and go, then ignore | 21:25 |
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| TheJulia | So its use is more as asset tracking | 21:25 |
| rbudden | jmlowe: that was largely how things were at PSC as well | 21:25 |
| jmlowe | typical lifespan of systems is 5-7 years | 21:26 |
| rbudden | TheJulia: exactly | 21:26 |
| oneswig | I've seen Netbox play a useful role inbetween those events | 21:26 |
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| rbudden | I know the problem with lifecycle at PSC was it was originally populated when new systems came in, then fell out of updates for one reason or another (I forget what DCIM was being used) | 21:27 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: do you know what the current state of play is with anomaly detection on inspection data? I've used cardiff from python-hw for this before, but it was hard to setup | 21:27 |
| rbudden | so then it wasn’t reliably useful for anything :P | 21:27 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: like failed hardware detection? | 21:28 |
| oneswig | rbudden: jmlowe: if the DCIM was updated with Ironic inspection data, perhaps it would have more utility | 21:28 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: exactly - missing DIMMs, disks, etc. | 21:28 |
| rbudden | yes | 21:28 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: for inside introspection data, likely the same as long as long as "extra-hardware" is set as a collector for introspection. | 21:28 |
| oneswig | Thanks TheJulia, good to know. | 21:29 |
| trandles | oneswig: we use NHC ( https://github.com/mej/nhc ) for that bit it doesn't integrate with a larger DCIM. We have custom splunk dashboards that communicate that level of brokenness. | 21:29 |
| trandles | ie. missing DIMMs, interconnect links at the wrong speed, CPUs stuck in a bad cstate, etc. | 21:30 |
| oneswig | brokenness as a metric - how cool is that | 21:30 |
| oneswig | good link trandles, thanks for that | 21:30 |
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| rbudden | sorry, have to run, this is all very interesting though, i’ll ask around about anything else in use at GSFC | 21:31 |
| oneswig | Thanks rbudden - see you | 21:31 |
| rbudden | bye all | 21:31 |
| oneswig | elox: What are your experiences with MaaS? | 21:31 |
| trandles | it will detect things like wrong firmware levels on mobos, nics, hcas, hdds | 21:31 |
| elox | oneswig: So far, it has provided us with a means to work with our hardware as if it was a cloud and adding in the Juju framework (https://jujucharms.com/) lets us provision a diversity of modern software previously out of our reach. | 21:33 |
| oneswig | elox: you're provisioning bare metal software deployments with it? Neat. | 21:34 |
| elox | ... We will likely deploy an openStack on top of MaaS which is a legit use-case for us. We already leverage AWS, vsphere and plan to use GCE, Azure and perhaps even Oracle. | 21:34 |
| b1airo | ok, other meeting done! | 21:35 |
| b1airo | busy morning here o_0 | 21:35 |
| oneswig | elox: A really diverse set of IaaS there. I think you've got pretty much the full set? :-) | 21:35 |
| oneswig | hey b1airo, good to have you | 21:36 |
| elox | oneswig: We deploy the full software stack on top of MaaS: SLURM, OFED, application, middleware etc. We add in things as we need to meet a diverse set of use-cases. AI/BigData etc. | 21:36 |
| oneswig | Sounds good. | 21:37 |
| oneswig | OK - we should move on with the agenda I guess. Any more to add before we do? | 21:38 |
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| elox | oneswig: Yes, its diverse. We need to meet different requirements from projects limited in time. For example, month #1, we might need the HPC cluster(s) to be tailored towards DeepLearning. Month #2 Data Analytics or a mix. We then rebuild the cluster explicitly for those workloads via Juju. | 21:38 |
| b1airo | catching up on DCIM discussion... Google Spreadsheet | 21:38 |
| * b1airo ducks | 21:38 | |
| oneswig | b1airo: Very true, certainly we've deployed from them | 21:39 |
| trandles | I would be remiss if I didn't link this here: https://github.com/hpc/kraken/ | 21:40 |
| trandles | it's a LANL thing | 21:40 |
| oneswig | Don't see Juju very often but I've heard when it works it's pretty smooth. Conversely when it doesn't work... | 21:40 |
| trandles | not yet in production, very much in development, but looking for more interested use cases | 21:41 |
| oneswig | trandles: sounds like a beast alright. Keep us updated :-) | 21:42 |
| elox | oneswig: I think we are pretty much first out here but its living up to our expectations and more so. | 21:42 |
| b1airo | just got to the "or will when fully implemented" parentheses :-) | 21:42 |
| elox | oneswig: We have developed a SLURM bundle that deploys SLURM to "any" cloud and is in progress of tailor it to be as close to a reference implementation we can get for HPC with SLURM. | 21:43 |
| trandles | b1airo: haha, indeed...the local dev has taken some heat for that | 21:44 |
| oneswig | elox: good to hear it. Is that open source? | 21:44 |
| elox | All open source. | 21:44 |
| elox | oneswig: https://jujucharms.com/slurm-core/bundle/0 | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Thanks elox - share and enjoy :-) | 21:45 |
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| oneswig | OK, let's move on... | 21:45 |
| oneswig | #topic Denver - SIG "help most wanted" forum | 21:45 |
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| elox | oneswig: I was hoping to. It feels a bit risky being out in this end so its really in our self interest to both get eyes on what we are doing and helping others that might want to try give it a spin. | 21:46 |
| oneswig | I'm aware of one or two others in the Juju ecosystem but given it's a small world you probably know them already too | 21:47 |
| oneswig | Last airing for this one, Rico's looking for input on cross-SIG needs to advocate | 21:48 |
| oneswig | #link Scientific SIG wish-list taking shape here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denver2019-gaps | 21:48 |
| oneswig | Please contribute if you have pain points | 21:48 |
| oneswig | There is a forum session in Denver where the hope is the SIGs will gather and find common needs | 21:49 |
| oneswig | #link Forum session in Denver https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23612/help-most-needed-for-sigs-and-wgs | 21:50 |
| oneswig | OK, that's enough on that I think | 21:50 |
| oneswig | #topic Denver SIG meeting and BoF | 21:50 |
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| oneswig | I noticed the room we are in (507) is not looking particularly big on the map... | 21:51 |
| oneswig | #link map of the convention center https://object-storage-ca-ymq-1.vexxhost.net/swift/v1/6e4619c416ff4bd19e1c087f27a43eea/www-assets-prod/summits/26/locations/428/floors/OSDEN-Map-FINAL-sm2.png | 21:52 |
| oneswig | I have a photo from Berlin which I might share with the organisers to see if we can upgrade. | 21:52 |
| oneswig | #link lightning talks wanted - sign up here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denver19-bof | 21:53 |
| oneswig | I'm hoping Arkady will offer a prize as usual! | 21:53 |
| oneswig | Finally - evening beer social | 21:54 |
| elox | \o/ | 21:54 |
| oneswig | Last summit (Berlin) we co-incided with the Ironic gang, which was great | 21:54 |
| oneswig | I saw this go by on the Ops thread and wondered if we should tag along with them on the Monday night - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005096.html | 21:55 |
| b1airo | good idea re room upgrade oneswig | 21:55 |
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| trandles | could be a repeat of Barca when we jammed into that tiny room | 21:56 |
| b1airo | also a reminder we're still looking for lightning talks: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denver19-bof | 21:57 |
| oneswig | Thanks b1airo | 21:58 |
| oneswig | OK we are nearly at time... | 21:58 |
| oneswig | AOB items? | 21:58 |
| b1airo | oneswig: i'm onboard for the operators drinks | 21:59 |
| oneswig | Sounds good to me too (jetlag permitting) - you'll be raring of course... :-) | 21:59 |
| trandles | I'll be arriving Sunday around noon if anyone wants to get an early start ;) | 22:00 |
| b1airo | i arrive (after ~24 hours in-transit) about 11pm on Sunday, so i should be sparkling... | 22:00 |
| oneswig | I'm due in Sunday arvo some time. Also fried. | 22:00 |
| b1airo | but i'll be around until following Sunday before heading on to Montreal for CUG | 22:00 |
| oneswig | OK we are at the hour | 22:00 |
| jmlowe | I'm in Sunday as well | 22:00 |
| elox | thanx for putting the meeting together. | 22:00 |
| jmlowe | and like to drink | 22:00 |
| b1airo | lol | 22:01 |
| oneswig | On that happy note! | 22:01 |
| trandles | b1airo: if you're interested some of us are going to a baseball game Friday and Saturday | 22:01 |
| oneswig | Thanks all, until next time | 22:01 |
| trandles | o/ see you all in Denver | 22:01 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 16 22:01:23 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-16-21.00.html | 22:01 |
| b1airo | awesome! | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-16-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-04-16-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
| martial | Went well ;) (Sorry now at swim lesson with kids) | 22:10 |
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