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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 18 14:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:00 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-04-11-21.00.html | 14:01 |
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| efried | #topic Release News | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| stephenfin | o/ | 14:02 |
| efried | Pike final release to be discussed under stable branch status | 14:02 |
| efried | anything else for release news? | 14:02 |
| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:02 |
| efried | No Critical bugs | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| efried | #link 76 new untriaged bugs (up 2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:02 |
| efried | #link 11 untagged untriaged bugs (up 1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:02 |
| efried | any bugs to highlight? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:03 |
| mriedem | but i guess that's in stable section | 14:03 |
| mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005242.html | 14:03 |
| efried | mm | 14:04 |
| mriedem | we have a few upgrade impacting stein regressions, | 14:04 |
| mriedem | since we just GA'ed stein, it'd be good to get those fixed and released before people upgrade | 14:04 |
| mriedem | if this was pre-GA these would have probably been RC candidates | 14:05 |
| efried | so like within the next three years? | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | too soon | 14:05 |
| mriedem | anywho, an easy start is the func recreate regression test patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/653098/ | 14:06 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/653268/ | 14:06 |
| * efried opens tabs | 14:07 | |
| efried | that it for now? | 14:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | for release news | 14:08 |
| mriedem | sure | 14:08 |
| sean-k-mooney | i guess | 14:08 |
| efried | Gate status | 14:08 |
| efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:08 |
| efried | mdbooth: any update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1823251 ? | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1823251 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Spike in TestNovaMigrationsMySQL.test_walk_versions/test_innodb_tables failures since April 1 2019 on limestone-regionone" [High,Confirmed] | 14:08 |
| efried | mdbooth isn't here I guess | 14:09 |
| efried | 3rd party CI | 14:09 |
| efried | #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:09 |
| efried | This ^ has seemed a tad wonky to me lately, got a question out to mmedvede about it. | 14:09 |
| efried | #link sean-k-mooney is working on getting the NFV job in tree https://review.openstack.org/#/c/652197/ | 14:09 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: your mic | 14:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok so there are a number of related ci topics but to start with | 14:10 |
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| sean-k-mooney | that job is intended to replace teh testing done by the intel nfv ci | 14:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | currently it is running a small subset of test which i hope to expand | 14:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | it has more feature enabeld the the intel nfv ci (like realtime) | 14:11 |
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| sean-k-mooney | but cannot test multi numa guest | 14:11 |
| sean-k-mooney | to do that we would need a multi numa host vm form nodepool | 14:11 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | i intend to create a seperate job to test ovs-dpdk integretion | 14:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | again bare multi numa testing thos two jobs will provide parity with the intel nfv ci | 14:12 |
| sean-k-mooney | the main enabler of this is the qemu MTTCG backend and that will also be the main delta between how the intel nfv ci ran the test and upstream | 14:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | they used nested virt this will use the multi thread tcg backend | 14:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | to do this we need libvirt 5.2 and a new qemu so that forces use to use fedora 29 and the virt preview repo | 14:14 |
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| sean-k-mooney | as a result the stablity may be quetionable so i would like to keep them non voting until we have evidence that it is stable | 14:14 |
| mriedem | throw it in the experimental queu | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | *queue | 14:14 |
| mriedem | rather than check queue non-voting | 14:15 |
| mriedem | then you can run it on-demand | 14:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | i could do that i woudl like it to run on all changes to the libvirt driver | 14:15 |
| sean-k-mooney | would you object if i did both but limited the check queue to that? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | we should talk about it later elsewhere | 14:16 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok well that was the main update | 14:16 |
| efried | Thanks sean-k-mooney | 14:16 |
| sean-k-mooney | we have a ptg session to discuss testing in general too | 14:16 |
| mriedem | definitely thanks for working on this | 14:16 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:16 | |
| efried | any? | 14:16 |
| efried | #topic Stable branch status | 14:17 |
| efried | #link Stein regressions: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005242.html | 14:17 |
| efried | ...as discussed above | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:17 | |
| efried | #help Need to flush the stable branch reviews so we can put pike into extended maintenance mode: | 14:17 |
| efried | #link pike-em potential etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stable-pike-em | 14:17 |
| efried | #link final nova release for pike https://review.openstack.org/#/c/652868/ | 14:17 |
| mriedem | i'll spend this morning populating that etherpad and bugging stable cores | 14:18 |
| mriedem | though i've got charts to work on... | 14:18 |
| efried | Thanks mriedem | 14:18 |
| efried | yay charts :$ | 14:18 |
| mriedem | is that a mustache? | 14:18 |
| efried | some kind of grimace maybe | 14:18 |
| efried | #link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein | 14:19 |
| efried | 1 patch needing second +2/+W | 14:19 |
| efried | 2 patches needing review | 14:19 |
| efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky | 14:19 |
| efried | 2 patches need second +2/+W | 14:19 |
| efried | 2 patches needing review | 14:19 |
| efried | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens | 14:19 |
| efried | 1 patch needs second +2/+W | 14:19 |
| efried | 7 needing core reviews | 14:19 |
| efried | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/pike | 14:19 |
| efried | 5 patches needing core reviews | 14:19 |
| efried | See above | 14:19 |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:20 |
| efried | Placement (cdent) | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:20 | |
| cdent | we talked about the emails and how there will be more emails (and there were) | 14:20 |
| cdent | EOM | 14:20 |
| efried | API (gmann) | 14:21 |
| efried | No separate updates. Spec reviews are in progress. | 14:21 |
| efried | anything else gmann? | 14:21 |
| gmann | yeah, spec review going on. lock detail spec is merged and other under review | 14:21 |
| gmann | that's all for today | 14:21 |
| efried | thanks gmann | 14:21 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:21 |
| efried | any? | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| efried | #topic Forum Planning | 14:22 |
| efried | See meeting agenda for a list of nova-ish forum sessions. Feel free to add any I missed. | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| efried | #topic PTG Planning | 14:22 |
| efried | #link PTG: Nova etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-train | 14:22 |
| efried | links from ^ to various other etherpads | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| efried | I'll be trying to put together some kind of schedule over the next week | 14:23 |
| efried | so please get your topics into the etherpads so they're stable-ish for when I'm cutting and pasting stuff around. | 14:23 |
| gmann | efried: do we need to have cross project sessions with keystone for 'Nova API policy updates' L214 ? | 14:24 |
| gmann | there was question on that and it is good idea | 14:24 |
| efried | cmurphy, lbragstad: thoughts ^ ? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | there is a forum session on that right? | 14:24 |
| * lbragstad reads | 14:24 | |
| gmann | forum is more giving general updates ? but not sure we can specifically discuss nova cases | 14:24 |
| mriedem | https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23642/increasing-api-accessibility-with-granular-policy-and-default-roles | 14:25 |
| lbragstad | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23642/increasing-api-accessibility-with-granular-policy-and-default-roles | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i win | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was wondering about unified limits, in a similar vain | 14:25 |
| * lbragstad shakes fist | 14:25 | |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23641/unified-limits-update-and-migration | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks, I should read more of that schedule | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | gmann: my question is what would be new at this ptg from previous ptgs if we have a xp session on this? | 14:26 |
| cmurphy | we have a slot in our agenda for following up on forum discussions to see if we want further ptg discussion, we can go ahead and plan for a cross project session ahead of time if you guys want | 14:26 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-granular-policy-and-default-roles | 14:27 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-unified-limits | 14:27 |
| gmann | mriedem: we have spec ready now about what all steps and updates. | 14:27 |
| gmann | i am ok if we can get keystone review/suggestion in forum and then discuss nova specific plan in nova ptg only | 14:28 |
| lbragstad | ^ those etherpads are for the forum, but there are sections for the ptg bits that cmurphy talked about | 14:28 |
| lbragstad | we're hoping to keep the content in the forum applicable to operators - and push dev-specific discussions to the ptg | 14:28 |
| lbragstad | (in an effort to make the most of the time we have with ops and users at the forum) | 14:28 |
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| efried | I'll get with y'all later to schedule a slot on Friday. Meanwhile, can someone please chop the relevant bits out of the main etherpad and create a nova-keystone xproj etherpad for them? | 14:29 |
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| lbragstad | efried feel free to reuse the ptg sections in the etherpads we have already if you'd like | 14:29 |
| cmurphy | our ptg agenda fwiw https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-train-ptg | 14:30 |
| efried | okay, thanks, I'll catch up with you later to work out the details. | 14:30 |
| cmurphy | thanks efried | 14:31 |
| gmann | thanks | 14:31 |
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| efried | Generally about the PTG: I'm pretty concerned about timing. We basically have one day for general nova topics. Because Friday is xproj and Saturday is going to be pretty weak, what with some key people already gone and others promising to be grumpy. | 14:32 |
| efried | So I'm basically going to front-load the stuff I think is important, and try as much as possible to time-box the topics. | 14:32 |
| efried | What this means is, once I've drafted the agenda, you should look at it and yell at me if something seems pushed too far back or given too little time. | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i agree with that plan | 14:32 |
| cdent | ditto | 14:32 |
| mriedem | and sympathize with trying to organize | 14:32 |
| gmann | +1 | 14:33 |
| mriedem | did i just rap? | 14:33 |
| efried | thanks. Here's my grimace again :$ | 14:33 |
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| efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:33 |
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| efried | anything? | 14:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | i have two topics | 14:33 |
| artom | (belated o/) | 14:33 |
| efried | hit it sean-k-mooney | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | speclesss blurint for extending libvirt video device models | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-video-device-models | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | this is basically extending an enum with some minor verion check in the driver | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | i have implemented it already here | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/libvirt-video-device-models | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | so basically im asking for approval of the specless blueprint | 14:34 |
| sean-k-mooney | i also have an update on bug 1822884 | 14:35 |
| openstack | bug 1822884 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration fails due to port binding duplicate key entry in post_live_migrate" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822884 - Assigned to sean mooney (sean-k-mooney) | 14:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1822884 | 14:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | NewBruce applied https://review.openstack.org/#/c/653609/ and i appears to fix the issue. | 14:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | it still needs work but i think we have a path forward | 14:36 |
| sean-k-mooney | those are the too topics | 14:36 |
| efried | anyone object to approving the video model bp? | 14:36 |
| mriedem | seems pretty straight-forward, add support for gop and none based on libvirt version and feature support capabilities yeah? | 14:37 |
| mriedem | the latter maybe depending on kashyap's blueprint? | 14:37 |
| mriedem | for those new libvirt apis? | 14:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: yep | 14:37 |
| * kashyap blinks | 14:37 | |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: it also ties into my image metadata prefiltering spec | 14:37 |
| kashyap | mriedem: What is "gop"? | 14:37 |
| mriedem | https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsVideo | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | uefi grapichs output | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | protocol | 14:38 |
| kashyap | (Nod) | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | we also had partil supprot for vitio before | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | now you will be able to request it | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | before it was enabled by default on arm | 14:39 |
| mriedem | so i think i'm a +1 on the specless bp | 14:39 |
| sean-k-mooney | but you could not request it | 14:39 |
| efried | kashyap: you good with this, since you're a) libvirt savvy, b) here? | 14:39 |
| kashyap | (Yes, I'm here.) | 14:40 |
| efried | and c) involved apparently, owning a dep | 14:40 |
| kashyap | efried: I need to look at it properly; don't want to hurry it in this meeting. | 14:40 |
| bauzas | oops my bad | 14:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: there isnt really a dep on kashyap's work | 14:40 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure there is a hard dependency really, sean already has code up | 14:40 |
| kashyap | sean-k-mooney: Yeah, it is not dep on any work I'm doing, actually. | 14:40 |
| efried | Okay, so strike c). | 14:41 |
| efried | If nobody has objections, I'll catch up with kashyap later and approve the bp if he's on board, cool? | 14:41 |
| mriedem | ++ | 14:41 |
| kashyap | Nod | 14:41 |
| kashyap | efried: Got two more mins so I can "plug" something here? | 14:41 |
| sean-k-mooney | works for me :) | 14:41 |
| efried | kashyap: Open discussion, go for it | 14:42 |
| kashyap | I'd appreciate some more eyes on the spec: Secure Boot for KVM/QEMU guests — https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506720/ | 14:42 |
| kashyap | It already had some feedback from folks here. | 14:42 |
| kashyap | (And I'm working with Debian and Ubuntu folks to also get the relevant low-level virtual firmware deps in place.) | 14:43 |
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| kashyap | (Might want to wait for PS-12, will push out 'soon'. I've simplified some more bits in the spec.) | 14:44 |
| mriedem | kashyap: have the windriver people been looking at that? | 14:44 |
| mriedem | b/c they care about uefi | 14:44 |
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| kashyap | I was looking for ChrisF the other day | 14:45 |
| kashyap | Will ping him today | 14:45 |
| mriedem | ala https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621646/ | 14:45 |
| sean-k-mooney | you mean cfriesen | 14:45 |
| kashyap | mriedem: I've left periodic updates in the spec over the year. It needed a lot of work in EDK2/OVMF (the virtual firmware), QEMU, libvirt et al | 14:45 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Ah, thanks for that pointer. I saw that in passing | 14:46 |
| kashyap | mriedem: But Jack Ding seems to be AWOL? | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | idk | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | jack ding i think got pulled off nova work form talking to cfriesen | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | i dont know if that was tempory or permenent | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | that is why cfriesen took over some of his pathces | 14:47 |
| kashyap | Okay, that's a separate one. I'll ping cfriesen to take a look at the SB stuff | 14:47 |
| kashyap | mriedem: BTW, this is the general Secure Boot support for KVM/QEMU guests -- similar to the one you help landed for the Hyper-V | 14:48 |
| kashyap | (I think you'll recall; as I saw your name when I was doing code audit.) | 14:48 |
| * mriedem doesn't remember | 14:48 | |
| kashyap | efried: That's it. Don't want to elaborate further here. | 14:48 |
| kashyap | Can talk on the -nova channel | 14:48 |
| efried | Okay, any other opens before close? | 14:48 |
| efried | Thanks all. | 14:49 |
| efried | o/ | 14:49 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 18 14:49:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-04-18-14.00.html | 14:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-04-18-14.00.txt | 14:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-04-18-14.00.log.html | 14:49 |
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| cdent | thanks efried | 14:49 |
| gmann | thanks efried for chair | 14:50 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 18 15:00:46 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | ping fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:01 |
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| fungi | aloha | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | give it a couple minutes, not much on the agenda | 15:02 |
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| gagehugo | sorry got pulled away | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | #topic PTG | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:11 | |
| gagehugo | I added an etherpad for the SIG on the list | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Train/Etherpads | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | currently there's no topics but there's still ~2 weeks | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | feel free to add something | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | there's also apparently a BoF session at the summit we get, I will see when that is | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | might get* | 15:13 |
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| gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:14 | |
| gagehugo | fungi nickthetait: do you have anything else? | 15:14 |
| nickthetait | I'm going to be at OIS :) | 15:14 |
| nickthetait | but sadly not PTG | 15:14 |
| fungi | nothing from me, no | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | nickthetait: well I will see you there then | 15:15 |
| fungi | mostly sucked into last-minute prep for tomorrow's migration to opendev.org | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | :( at no PTG | 15:15 |
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| gagehugo | oh yeah, exciting | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | zuul is gonna be down tomorrow right? | 15:16 |
| fungi | not so much zuul, but gerrit and (briefly) git hosting too | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | ah ok | 15:17 |
| fungi | the latter hopefully only for a few seconds | 15:17 |
| * gagehugo crosses his fingers | 15:18 | |
| gagehugo | thanks for coming everyone! Have a good weekend | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 18 15:19:40 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-04-18-15.00.html | 15:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-04-18-15.00.txt | 15:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-04-18-15.00.log.html | 15:19 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:21 |
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