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ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 04:02 |
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openstack | Meeting started Fri May 17 04:02:45 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 04:02 |
ekcs | hello! topics kept here as usual https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 04:03 |
ekcs | feel free to add your topics =) | 04:03 |
akhil_jain | ekcs: Hi | 04:03 |
ekcs | hello akhil_jain ! how’s it been? | 04:04 |
akhil_jain | everything good. what about you | 04:04 |
ekcs | not too bad! | 04:06 |
ekcs | ok figuring out what we need to talk about today =) | 04:07 |
akhil_jain | from my side, I started working on getting prometheus integration | 04:09 |
akhil_jain | currently having issues while setup | 04:09 |
ekcs | got it! oh yea each new integration sometimes that’s the hardest part =/ | 04:10 |
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ekcs | do you have any questions or discussion regarding potential train goals/features? | 04:11 |
akhil_jain | That list was really helpful. I picked this one to start | 04:12 |
akhil_jain | Thanks ekcs | 04:12 |
ekcs | I’m still working through to figure out priorities. And figure out what I can start working on too. do you have thoughts on relative priorities? | 04:12 |
akhil_jain | nothing particular from my end, is there something new idea that you might have got fromsummit | 04:15 |
akhil_jain | like what users are expecting or something | 04:15 |
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ekcs | I’m still working through use cases with folks to see which to pursue first that will get deployed so we get real feedback. | 04:16 |
ekcs | but yes, those summit discussions I pointed to are some of the relevant ones. | 04:17 |
ekcs | I think I may start with enabling new authentication mechanisms for JGress. People asked for that. | 04:17 |
ekcs | One interesting case has to do with tracking how many live-migrations are taking place | 04:18 |
ekcs | to make sure we don’t trigger too many. | 04:18 |
ekcs | but still need to follow up with user to understand what factors decide how many to initiate. | 04:19 |
ekcs | that’s a simple one. | 04:19 |
akhil_jain | new authentication mechanism will be good then to start | 04:19 |
ekcs | another case has to do with using congress to trigger self-healing workflows. they have something currently implemented in sensu. | 04:20 |
ekcs | https://sensu.io/about/ | 04:20 |
ekcs | But I still need to understand what limitations they are running into with sensu to see if it makes sense to do with congress. | 04:20 |
akhil_jain | its good to know new use cases, thanks for sharing. | 04:22 |
ekcs | also got interest on advanced autoscaling decisions. but not immediate need to deploy. | 04:24 |
ekcs | The case I mentioned at denver had to do with allocating limited pool of physical resources between various apps to optimize some objective. Operators said that’s a good use case, but not something they immediately need. | 04:24 |
ekcs | Also found a paper doing another advanced autoscaling decision case. | 04:25 |
ekcs | https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314296488_BATS_Budget-Constrained_Autoscaling_for_Cloud_Performance_Optimization | 04:25 |
ekcs | The problem they consider is how to make scaling decisions for a single app from period to period subject to a total budget over a longer period of time (say 1 month). | 04:25 |
ekcs | Congress would need to be connected to a constraint solver to do some of these problems. So that’s on my radar too. I should add it to the list. | 04:26 |
ekcs | May lead to good presentations for Shanghai. | 04:27 |
akhil_jain | that seems really interesting work, i will go through it | 04:27 |
ekcs | yea do let me know if there’s anything you want to work on together. | 04:27 |
ekcs | ok switching topics a bit. | 04:28 |
ekcs | #topic patches | 04:28 |
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ekcs | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/629616/ | 04:28 |
ekcs | akhil_jain: are you ok with us abandoning this one? | 04:28 |
akhil_jain | yes we can abandon | 04:29 |
ekcs | ok got it. | 04:31 |
akhil_jain | also I am working with tacker team for fixing tacker on gate | 04:31 |
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ekcs | oh yea thanks! I know that’s been a tough one. | 04:32 |
akhil_jain | i tried adding all required projects from tacker project. still some issue. | 04:32 |
ekcs | yea... | 04:33 |
ekcs | well thanks for tackling that! be great to get the tacker integration gating. | 04:34 |
ekcs | I don’t have anything else today. anything else to talk about for you? | 04:35 |
akhil_jain | nothing from my side | 04:35 |
ekcs | ok then. well great syncing up after a hiatus! | 04:35 |
ekcs | happy friday and have a good weekend! | 04:36 |
akhil_jain | Thanks and same to you | 04:36 |
akhil_jain | Bye! | 04:36 |
ekcs | bye! | 04:36 |
ekcs | #endmeeting | 04:36 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Fri May 17 04:36:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-05-17-04.02.html | 04:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-05-17-04.02.txt | 04:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-05-17-04.02.log.html | 04:36 |
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mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Fri May 17 14:00:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
Tengu | \o/ | 14:00 |
davidsha | o/ | 14:00 |
tidwellr | o/ | 14:00 |
doreilly | o/ | 14:00 |
* Zara lurks | 14:00 | |
slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
haleyb | o/ | 14:01 |
Tengu | aaand I don't remember who told me to be here for validation stuff. #smallBrain | 14:01 |
ralonsoh | hi | 14:02 |
mlavalle | doreilly: I wasn't expecting you today here | 14:02 |
mlavalle | we will try to get to you at the end | 14:02 |
mlavalle | ok? | 14:02 |
doreilly | sure - thanks | 14:02 |
slaweq | Tengu: aren't You here to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1825943 ? | 14:04 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1825943 in neutron "[RFE] Implement "stop agent" hook script support in Neutron" [Wishlist,New] | 14:04 |
slaweq | :) | 14:04 |
Tengu | slaweq: ohh. yeah, probably, indeed :). Sorry, I'm in validations things up to the neck. | 14:04 |
slaweq | Tengu: np :) | 14:04 |
mlavalle | LOL | 14:05 |
mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 14:05 |
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mlavalle | Actually, our first RFE of the day is indeed https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1825943 | 14:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1825943 in neutron "[RFE] Implement "stop agent" hook script support in Neutron" [Wishlist,New] | 14:05 |
Tengu | woohoo that's mine :) | 14:06 |
Tengu | so. do you want a quick summary maybe? | 14:06 |
mlavalle | sure, go ahead | 14:06 |
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Tengu | so. | 14:07 |
Tengu | we discovered neutron launches container agents and instead of killing the container, it kills the running service. | 14:07 |
mlavalle | becasue Neutron doesn't know about containers | 14:08 |
Tengu | yep. | 14:08 |
Tengu | so the current situation keeps dangling containers in a failed state, and this is pretty bad | 14:08 |
Tengu | regarding disk usage, well, it's not a big deal since those containers are small, but when you get the container ps output, seeing those dead things is pretty bad. | 14:09 |
Tengu | the RFE is about making neutron aware of "kill hooks" more than "container". | 14:09 |
Tengu | basically, there's already something like this for starting the agent (wrapper scripts are being used), so it would be great to get the same kind of thing for the agent death management | 14:09 |
Tengu | (sorry, I'm multi-tasking meetings - bare with me if I'm slow) | 14:10 |
njohnston | it's a common enough idea; at a previous employer we used to call these 'dirge scripts' | 14:10 |
njohnston | in order to handle shutdowns that required some level of orchestration or multi-step cleanup | 14:10 |
slaweq | and in fact our process_monitor is ready for it https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/external_process.py#L98 | 14:11 |
Tengu | in "our" case, a simple $container_cli stop -t 10 <container-agent> would be enough - but if we can get some cleanup ($container_cli rm <container-agent>) that would be even better. | 14:11 |
Tengu | hence the notion of "hook" | 14:11 |
slaweq | so we can pass there some get_stop_command() function which wil return such 'dirge script' | 14:11 |
Tengu | not something container-centric since it might be usefull for other things. | 14:11 |
Tengu | slaweq: that would be great :) | 14:12 |
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mlavalle | when Neutron was originally implemented, we certainly didn't think of containers | 14:15 |
njohnston | and those "other things" are a very operator-friendly concept | 14:15 |
slaweq | njohnston++ | 14:15 |
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mlavalle | but as containers based deployments become more prevalent, a mechanism like this becomes more and more important | 14:16 |
mlavalle | I am fine with approving this | 14:16 |
slaweq | me too | 14:16 |
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slaweq | and as I said, it don't look as very hard to implement | 14:16 |
Tengu | great :) | 14:16 |
njohnston | what I like about this is we provide the places to plug in so that neutron can work with containers... but it also helps if you want to run neutron undr k8s, or in mesos, or in whatever the next framework to come down the line is | 14:16 |
mlavalle | yes | 14:17 |
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mlavalle | what does haleyb think? | 14:17 |
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haleyb | sorry, i wan't paying attention | 14:18 |
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haleyb | reading s/b i think it's a good idea | 14:19 |
Tengu | :) | 14:19 |
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mlavalle | any thoughts from others attending the meeting? | 14:20 |
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mlavalle | Tengu: are you planning to implement it? | 14:21 |
Tengu | mlavalle: hm, not really in my skillset unfortunately | 14:22 |
slaweq | mlavalle: I have it added to my todo list | 14:22 |
mlavalle | ok | 14:22 |
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Tengu | I'm part of the deployment framework team, so.... we just discovered this "issue" :) | 14:22 |
Tengu | slaweq: thanks! | 14:22 |
Tengu | slaweq: if you need help, I can run tests and so on, maybe review if needed. | 14:22 |
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mlavalle | slaweq: I'll assign it to you. I can also help if you need | 14:23 |
slaweq | Tengu: sure, I will ping You if will need help | 14:23 |
slaweq | mlavalle: thx | 14:23 |
Tengu | slaweq: +1 | 14:23 |
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mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1825345 | 14:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1825345 in neutron "[RFE] admin-state-down doesn't evacuate bindings in the dhcp_agent_id column" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:25 |
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mlavalle | zigo: if you are around, we are taking a look at ^^^^ | 14:29 |
njohnston | zigo: Can you shed some light on how the results of 'openstack network agent remove' differ from 'neutron dhcp-agent-network-remove' - might be a bug | 14:29 |
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slaweq | so personally I'm not sure if setting agent's admin_state_up to False should move all networks/routers from agent immediatelly | 14:29 |
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slaweq | IMO we should debug and fix bug in openstack client if it doesn't work as expected | 14:29 |
njohnston | slaweq++ | 14:30 |
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slaweq | and then operator would be able to move all networks/routers from agent when needs it | 14:30 |
mlavalle | and even create some automation based on commands | 14:30 |
slaweq | mlavalle: exactly but that's something on operator's plate - we should give proper API calls to allow this | 14:31 |
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slaweq | and OSC to allow to do it easily :) | 14:31 |
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haleyb | this gets back at another rfe from intel (?) at doing automatic dhcp failovers, and we found it's maybe better to do outside the server code, right? | 14:32 |
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slaweq | haleyb: yes, I remember that there was something like that in the past :) | 14:33 |
mlavalle | haleyb: yes, in Denver, Fall 2018 | 14:33 |
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haleyb | and there was an operators repo that ovh contributed to | 14:33 |
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slaweq | haleyb: I think it was https://github.com/openstack/osops-tools-contrib | 14:34 |
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haleyb | yes, that was it | 14:34 |
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mlavalle | ok, I'll leave a commentt in the rfe and point submitter to the scripts repor ^^^^ | 14:35 |
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haleyb | yes, would be good to get his feedback | 14:36 |
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slaweq | mlavalle++ | 14:36 |
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mlavalle | doreilly: did you want to revisit https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1817022? | 14:37 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1817022 in neutron "[RFE] set inactivity_probe and max_backoff for OVS bridge controller" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Darragh O'Reilly (darragh-oreilly) | 14:37 |
doreilly | yes please | 14:37 |
mlavalle | go ahead | 14:37 |
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doreilly | not really a whole lot to add since the last meeting | 14:37 |
doreilly | I retested with the patch that breaks up the dump_flows() and it helps | 14:38 |
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doreilly | My only test case to reproduce a problem is to restart the agent when having a lot of flows | 14:39 |
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doreilly | but it seems others have seen problems in places other than restart | 14:40 |
doreilly | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1821753 | 14:40 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1817022 in neutron "duplicate for #1821753 [RFE] set inactivity_probe and max_backoff for OVS bridge controller" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Darragh O'Reilly (darragh-oreilly) | 14:40 |
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mlavalle | so above fix mitigates but don't fix the problem completely? | 14:42 |
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doreilly | correct | 14:42 |
slaweq | IMHO we should go with this "partial fix" if we don't have anything better for now | 14:42 |
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slaweq | it's better than nothing | 14:43 |
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tidwellr | slaweq++ | 14:43 |
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mlavalle | yeah. obondarev seems to be thinking along the same lines, although he is hesitant about the specific mix of values to tweak | 14:44 |
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mlavalle | but at the very least we sould experiment with it | 14:45 |
mlavalle | especially this early in the cycle | 14:45 |
slaweq | mlavalle++ | 14:46 |
mlavalle | so I am for approving the RFE | 14:46 |
slaweq | me too | 14:46 |
doreilly | thanks guys | 14:47 |
Zara | :D | 14:47 |
mlavalle | haleyb: any thoughts? | 14:47 |
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haleyb | i agree, get something in to experiment with at least | 14:47 |
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mlavalle | ok, approved it is | 14:48 |
mlavalle | doreilly: thanks for your patience and perseverance. Much appreciated! | 14:48 |
doreilly | thx, I will add the docstring and repush | 14:48 |
mlavalle | ok, anything else we should discuss today? | 14:50 |
ralonsoh | only a heads-up | 14:50 |
ralonsoh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1821058 | 14:50 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1821058 in neutron "[RFE] Port binding event extended information for Nova" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:50 |
ralonsoh | Feel free to review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/645173/ | 14:51 |
ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:51 |
mlavalle | thanks ralonsoh | 14:51 |
mlavalle | ok | 14:51 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: I will try to review it next week | 14:51 |
njohnston | ralonsoh: same, will try to review next week | 14:51 |
mlavalle | don't forget that this Sunday is the last episode of Game of Thrones | 14:52 |
mlavalle | Enjoy! | 14:52 |
ralonsoh | hahahaha | 14:52 |
mlavalle | Have a nice weekend | 14:52 |
mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
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slaweq | :) | 14:52 |
openstack | Meeting ended Fri May 17 14:52:41 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-05-17-14.00.html | 14:52 |
slaweq | o/ | 14:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-05-17-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-05-17-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
doreilly | bye | 14:52 |
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Zara | :) | 14:53 |
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