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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 04:02:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:02 |
| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:02 |
| samP | tpatil: Hi | 04:02 |
| samP | #topic Critical Bugs and Patches | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Bugs and Patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| samP | Any critical bugs or patches need to discuss here? | 04:03 |
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| tpatil | Not from my end | 04:04 |
| samP | if any please bring them up any time. | 04:05 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:05 |
| samP | #topic Train Work Items | 04:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train Work Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:05 | |
| samP | Please share updates if you have any on train work items | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | Sorry I got disconnected | 04:09 |
| samP | tpatil: welcome back! | 04:09 |
| samP | tpatil: no | 04:09 |
| samP | tpatil: np | 04:09 |
| tpatil | Pls give me two mins | 04:10 |
| samP | tpatil: sure | 04:10 |
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| tpatil | I'm back again | 04:13 |
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| tpatil | Train item status: Not much progress last week. We are working on configuring stonith resource after which we will update the masakari-monitor documentation patch | 04:13 |
| samP | tpatil: welcome | 04:13 |
| samP | tpatil: no problem. thanks for the update | 04:14 |
| samP | opic AOB | 04:14 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:14 | |
| aditya-dhole10 | I had some questions about the IPMI configuration | 04:15 |
| samP | sure, go ahead | 04:16 |
| aditya-dhole10 | Which network Interface does the IPMI device use.. I have tried assigning IP address to it and configuring user credentials, but couldn't remotely check the power status | 04:16 |
| aditya-dhole10 | Error issuing Get Channel Authentication Capabilities requestError: Unable to establish IPMI v2 / RMCP+ session | 04:17 |
| samP | These questions are related to MasakariCI internal network settings. I would like to answer these questions in private email. | 04:18 |
| samP | could you please send me email with your questions? | 04:18 |
| aditya-dhole10 | Sure.. thanks | 04:19 |
| aditya-dhole10 | My apologies for raising these doubts here!.. I will send you a email about this. | 04:19 |
| samP | no worries. | 04:20 |
| samP | I am thinking to change masakari meeting to biweekly. Any thoughts? | 04:21 |
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| samP | since, we don't have much development going on and anyone can contact the masakari team in IRC or openstack-discuss ML | 04:23 |
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| samP | please let me know what do you think on this. | 04:24 |
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| tpatil4 | sounds good to me | 04:25 |
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| samP | OK then. Let's to the next week meeting as normal. And no objections, from next week, let's change the meeting time to biweekly. | 04:26 |
| samP | That would be, every 1st and 3rd week of the month. | 04:27 |
| tpatil4 | Ok | 04:28 |
| samP | I will do the required changes to meeting time | 04:28 |
| samP | if no other items to discuss, let's finish today's meeting | 04:28 |
| samP | Thank you all! | 04:28 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 04:29:30 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-06-25-04.02.html | 04:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-06-25-04.02.txt | 04:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2019/masakari.2019-06-25-04.02.log.html | 04:29 |
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| dkushwaha | #startmeeting tacker | 08:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 08:04:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:04 |
| dkushwaha | #topic Roll Call | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:04 | |
| dkushwaha | who is here for Tacker weekly meeting? | 08:04 |
| joxyuki | dkushwaha, hi | 08:04 |
| tpatil | Hi | 08:04 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hi | 08:04 |
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| phuochoang | hello | 08:05 |
| dkushwaha | howdy all | 08:05 |
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| dkushwaha | ok lets start.. | 08:07 |
| dkushwaha | #topic announcement | 08:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:07 | |
| dkushwaha | Shanghai summit CFP is open. | 08:08 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/ | 08:08 |
| dkushwaha | deadline for submitting topics is July 2, 2019 at 11:59pm PT | 08:08 |
| dkushwaha | #topic announcement Openstack release schedule | 08:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement Openstack release schedule (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:10 | |
| dkushwaha | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 08:10 |
| dkushwaha | We are in train-2 milestone and have to complete all specs before deadline(july end) | 08:11 |
| dkushwaha | so please prioritize accordingly | 08:11 |
| dkushwaha | moving next.. | 08:13 |
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| dkushwaha | #topic BP ns force delete | 08:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BP ns force delete (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:13 | |
| dkushwaha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666496/ | 08:13 |
| dkushwaha | I am working on this patch, and hopefully will complete in couple of day | 08:14 |
| dkushwaha | client patch is already there #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/626854/ | 08:14 |
| dkushwaha | so please review it. | 08:14 |
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| dkushwaha | its from my side as of now | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | moving next.. | 08:16 |
| dkushwaha | #topic VNF packages support for VNF onboarding | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VNF packages support for VNF onboarding (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:16 | |
| dkushwaha | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/582930/ | 08:16 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, any update from your side | 08:17 |
| joxyuki | I just update the spec, please review it. | 08:17 |
| joxyuki | Implementation is proceeding in parallel. | 08:17 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, nice, will review it. | 08:19 |
| tpatil | on the implementation front, I was thinking of using glance_store library to store the csar file so that it can leverage to store the csar file in different stores filesystem, swift etc. | 08:19 |
| tpatil | I'm talking about VNF packages support specs | 08:19 |
| tpatil | Any suggestions on using glance_store lib? | 08:20 |
| tpatil | glance_store supports you to download the csar file from URI directly so we don't need to rewrite any code in tacker | 08:21 |
| dkushwaha | tpatil, do you mean extracted files ? | 08:21 |
| tpatil | no, just csar file, Once the csar file is available in glance_store, you will need to write logic to extract it and read the contents | 08:22 |
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| dkushwaha | tpatil, I see. Yea it looks nice approach. | 08:23 |
| dkushwaha | we can mention the same is spec as well | 08:24 |
| tpatil | ok | 08:25 |
| dkushwaha | moving next | 08:26 |
| phuochoang | hi | 08:27 |
| dkushwaha | hello phuochoang | 08:27 |
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| phuochoang | currently, I works on integrating Tungsten fabric SDN controller on my company | 08:28 |
| phuochoang | so I will raise a spec, that support service chain with TF controller | 08:29 |
| dkushwaha | phuochoang, can you give a brief about Tungsten fabric | 08:30 |
| phuochoang | like other SDN controller such as ONOS or ODL, Tungsten fabric supports almost networking features | 08:31 |
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| dkushwaha | is it open-source? | 08:33 |
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| phuochoang | yes, it's open source | 08:33 |
| phuochoang | Tungsten fabric has good features to support EVPN, it's compatible with our company's networking fabric | 08:34 |
| phuochoang | that's all from me | 08:34 |
| dkushwaha | phuochoang, so are you integrating TF with Tacker in your company use case also? | 08:35 |
| joxyuki | phuochoang, sounds good, looking forward to see your spec. | 08:35 |
| phuochoang | yes, it is our plan for next year | 08:36 |
| dkushwaha | joxyuki, +1 | 08:36 |
| dkushwaha | phuochoang, cool, interested to see the spec. | 08:37 |
| dkushwaha | moving next.. | 08:37 |
| phuochoang | about CFP, I think we can have a talk about our new features | 08:37 |
| dkushwaha | #topic OpenDiscussion | 08:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDiscussion (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:37 | |
| phuochoang | I hope to join one of our presentations | 08:38 |
| dkushwaha | phuochoang, and all, I just had created an etherpad link for that | 08:41 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tacker-CFP-shanghai-summit | 08:41 |
| dkushwaha | Please feel free to add your topics here and mention your name if you are intrested to join session | 08:43 |
| phuochoang | dkushwaha, thank you | 08:43 |
| dkushwaha | moving next | 08:45 |
| dkushwaha | takahashi-tsc, Thanks for your great effort for working on Tacker qualities issues. | 08:46 |
| dkushwaha | I had raised some bugs regarding the same. | 08:47 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1833506 | 08:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1833506 in tacker "VNF force delete failed with invalid VIM error" [High,New] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha) | 08:47 |
| dkushwaha | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1833505 | 08:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1833505 in tacker "VNF scale failed for non-admin tenants" [Critical,New] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha) | 08:47 |
| dkushwaha | I work on the same to fix them soon | 08:48 |
| takahashi-tsc | Yeah, we use Tacker with our app, in order to demo, and so on. | 08:48 |
| takahashi-tsc | We can also contribute bug patch. I'm glad that we can improve Tacker's quality | 08:49 |
| dkushwaha | takahashi-tsc, Thanks , looking forward for your support. Please feel free to discuss/raise issues | 08:51 |
| dkushwaha | moving next.. | 08:51 |
| dkushwaha | Do we have something to discuss for now? | 08:52 |
| dkushwaha | otherwise we can close this meeting. | 08:52 |
| dkushwaha | Ok, Thanks Folks for joining this meeting. | 08:54 |
| takahashi-tsc | Thanks | 08:54 |
| dkushwaha | closing it now. | 08:54 |
| dkushwaha | #endmeeting | 08:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 08:54:25 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:54 |
| joxyuki | bye | 08:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-06-25-08.04.html | 08:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-06-25-08.04.txt | 08:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2019/tacker.2019-06-25-08.04.log.html | 08:54 |
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| phuochoang | bye | 08:54 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 16:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:00 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 16:00 |
| slaweq | I know that mlavalle and bcafarel will not be there today but lets wait couple of minutes for others | 16:00 |
| ralonsoh | this is going to be a 1vs1 match | 16:02 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: yeah :) | 16:03 |
| slaweq | maybe we can just cancel it then, what do You think? | 16:04 |
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| ralonsoh | let's go | 16:04 |
| ralonsoh | ok ok | 16:04 |
| ralonsoh | no | 16:04 |
| ralonsoh | is there something important? | 16:04 |
| ralonsoh | critical? | 16:04 |
| slaweq | TBH I was today involved in one internal issue almost whole day | 16:04 |
| slaweq | and I didn't have time to check it | 16:04 |
| slaweq | lets maybe check now grafana how it looks like | 16:05 |
| slaweq | ok? | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | sure | 16:05 |
| slaweq | without strict agenda :) | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | no problem, at least you solved yesterday the CI problem with the nova patch | 16:05 |
| slaweq | http://grafana.openstack.org/d/Hj5IHcSmz/neutron-failure-rate?orgId=1 | 16:05 |
| slaweq | yes, that one should be fine now :) | 16:05 |
| ralonsoh | it is | 16:05 |
| slaweq | that is good :) | 16:06 |
| ralonsoh | do you see something with high failure rate? | 16:07 |
| ralonsoh | neutron-tempeste-with_uwsgi | 16:07 |
| slaweq | yes, but this one is like that for long time | 16:07 |
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| slaweq | and I didn't have time to look into it yet | 16:07 |
| ralonsoh | I see | 16:07 |
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| slaweq | other than that there is also neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario (non-voting) failing a lot | 16:08 |
| slaweq | but that is also "normal" | 16:08 |
| ralonsoh | you are right | 16:08 |
| slaweq | and good news is that I think I found why test_connectivity_through_2_routers is failing | 16:08 |
| ralonsoh | did you? what's happening? | 16:08 |
| slaweq | so it's IMO race | 16:09 |
| slaweq | instances are spawned here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/neutron_tempest_plugin/scenario/test_connectivity.py#L86 | 16:09 |
| njohnston | sorry I am late | 16:09 |
| slaweq | and after that in next lines networks are connected to the routers | 16:09 |
| ralonsoh | yes | 16:09 |
| ralonsoh | and do you think there is a race condition there? | 16:10 |
| slaweq | and if L3 agent is overloaded and is connecting everything slowly, than instance boot and can't configure public keys as metadata is not reachable yet | 16:10 |
| ralonsoh | ahhhh | 16:10 |
| slaweq | I was able to reproduce this issue locally | 16:10 |
| njohnston | makes sense, good find | 16:10 |
| slaweq | and when I moved spawning servers to L103, it passed few times for me | 16:10 |
| ralonsoh | so, adding more time to reach the metadata is not possible | 16:11 |
| slaweq | and also evey log which I checked from this failed test got those errors with reaching metadata IP | 16:11 |
| slaweq | njohnston: and hi :) | 16:11 |
| ralonsoh | oook so good change, add me to the patch reviews | 16:11 |
| slaweq | sure | 16:11 |
| slaweq | but, I will push patch tomorrow probably | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | I have another issue, related to CI | 16:12 |
| slaweq | and the same issue can be in our d/s CI with this test | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | and maybe real deployments | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1833721 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1833721 in neutron "ip_lib synchronized decorator should wrap the privileged one" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | the patch proposed is not working in py27 | 16:12 |
| ralonsoh | and maybe, if pyroute2 fixes the problem in the next days, we can remove the sync decorators | 16:13 |
| ralonsoh | so I'll keep this bug just for reference | 16:13 |
| slaweq | I hope we can remove this decorator soon :) | 16:13 |
| ralonsoh | sure | 16:13 |
| ralonsoh | that's all from my side | 16:14 |
| slaweq | njohnston: just FYI, as we were only 2 with ralonsoh we decided today to quickly check current CI status and don't follow usual agenda today | 16:14 |
| slaweq | njohnston: do You have anything You would like to discuss? | 16:15 |
| njohnston | sounds good; I have been hip deep in regressions but nothing that pertains to CI | 16:15 |
| njohnston | so nothing here | 16:16 |
| slaweq | ok, so I think we can finish this meeting earlier today as I didn't prepare anything else | 16:16 |
| ralonsoh | perfect for me | 16:16 |
| slaweq | CI looks "as usual" today so we should be good | 16:16 |
| ralonsoh | hehehe "usual" | 16:16 |
| slaweq | ;) | 16:17 |
| njohnston | better than usual! | 16:17 |
| slaweq | maybe even better :) | 16:17 |
| ralonsoh | hehehe | 16:17 |
| slaweq | ok thx for attending | 16:17 |
| slaweq | and see You online :) | 16:18 |
| slaweq | o/ | 16:18 |
| njohnston | \o | 16:18 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 16:18 |
| ralonsoh | see you folks | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 16:18:09 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-06-25-16.00.html | 16:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-06-25-16.00.txt | 16:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2019/neutron_ci.2019-06-25-16.00.log.html | 16:18 |
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| clarkb | Anyone else here for the infra team meeting? | 19:00 |
| clarkb | We will get started shortly | 19:00 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 19:01:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| corvus | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-June/006408.html | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | First up a warning that we did remove the zuul cloner shim and bindep fallback file from all jobs except for those that parent to openstack's legacy-base job | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | This should speed up the vast majority of our jobs, but there hsa been some fallout with jobs needing to either use bindep or drop z-c or reparent to legacy-base | 19:02 |
| clarkb | So be aware that change happened if people ask why mysql isn't installed or why zuul-cloner isn't found | 19:03 |
| clarkb | Also the Shanghai OpenInfra Summit CFP closes July 2 | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #link https://cfp.openstack.org/ Shanghai Summit CFP Deadline July 2 | 19:03 |
| clarkb | If you'd like to speed there in november don't forget to get your proposals submitted | 19:04 |
| clarkb | s/speed/speak/ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-18-19.00.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | corvus: had a chance to work with jroll on self managed openstack github org yet? | 19:05 |
| jroll | yeah, he emailed me | 19:05 |
| jroll | I've been meaning to start that conversation with the TC today | 19:06 |
| clarkb | sounds like progress, thanks | 19:06 |
| clarkb | I havne't seen mordred here today but he was going to create and opendevadmin account in github. Anyone know if that happened? | 19:06 |
| clarkb | also was going to look into cleaning up our unused, now stale openstack-infra github org | 19:07 |
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| corvus | i'm unsure if either of those happened | 19:07 |
| clarkb | #action mordred create opendevadmin github account | 19:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, also came up yesterday that there are still a ton of opendev namespace repos in openstack governance reference projects list. are we planning to remove those? | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #action mordred look into cleaning up openstack-infra github org as it is no longer used and is now stale | 19:08 |
| corvus | mordred is expecting next week to be a more regular work week, so hopefully something more concrete next meeting | 19:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think that likely requires a bigger zuul like discussion? | 19:08 |
| fungi | ahh, fair | 19:08 |
| corvus | ++ | 19:09 |
| clarkb | and maybe we are far enough along to have that discussion now | 19:09 |
| fungi | came up in the context of the python3 migration goal for openstack | 19:09 |
| fungi | and whether the opendev namespace repos need to be included in that work | 19:09 |
| fungi | (this is the stein supported runtimes addition of 3.7 and removal of 3.5) | 19:09 |
| clarkb | much of our stuff still needs work to python3 properly. I think we'd gladly accept help with those ports but probably getting ahead of ourselves to think we can even skip 3.5 | 19:10 |
| fungi | yeah, i told coreycb to deprioritize any in the opendev namespace for now | 19:10 |
| clarkb | sounds good | 19:11 |
| clarkb | Probably a good transition to talking about opendev | 19:11 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:11 | |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:11 | |
| fungi | opendev: it's what's for breakfast | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I've put a little bit of time this morning into thinking through a gitea06 redeployment. I think the rough plan I'm going to use is boot new gitea06 on manually uploaded image built by nodepool, add that to the inventory in system-config but exclude it from the play that creates projects in gitea within remote_puppet_git.yaml | 19:12 |
| clarkb | that will have ansible install docker and deploy an empty gitea install. I can then restore the db from say gitea01 into new gitea06, update dns, trigger replication from gerrit to gitea06, then when that is all done remove the exclusion in remote_puppet_git and add it to haproxy | 19:13 |
| clarkb | corvus: ^ knowing what you know of gitea and its database any concerns with that process? | 19:13 |
| fungi | is there concern about image proliferation since any image uploaded has to be kept around in glance for as long as there is a server instance which used it for boot-from-volume cow? | 19:13 |
| corvus | clarkb: that sounds fine | 19:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes before I went on vacation I started the process to remove control plane image management from nodepool for that reason | 19:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: that is also why I manually uploaded one of the nodepool images outside of nodepool so that we can have a working good image without nodepool trying to unsuccessfully manage it for us | 19:14 |
| fungi | so we probably want to pick particular checkpoints and then reuse the same images for a while | 19:14 |
| corvus | i think we just have to live with that restriction, but because this is outside of nodepool, i don't think we'll be too bothered | 19:15 |
| fungi | rather than upload a new image each time we boot a new server | 19:15 |
| corvus | i think we're also still expecting to have a second nodepool manage these images eventually | 19:15 |
| fungi | and end up with almost as many images in glance as we have servers | 19:15 |
| corvus | so i think we will have image proliferation... i'm not too bothered by it | 19:15 |
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| corvus | (as long as it isn't mucking up zuul's nodepool) | 19:15 |
| clarkb | ya I think the bigger issue was the mixing with our test side stuff | 19:15 |
| fungi | yeah, i guess if we had a separate nodepool, it wouldn't have to upload new images daily either | 19:15 |
| clarkb | as it will cause problems there | 19:15 |
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| clarkb | also these images are about 3GB in raw format | 19:16 |
| fungi | weekly/monthly images might be fine, and could cut down on the number of unique images we end up with in glance | 19:16 |
| clarkb | for now we should be able to safely use the manually uploaded relatively recent image | 19:17 |
| clarkb | I want ot say our launch process updates packages and reboots too | 19:17 |
| ianw | (some recent discussions on kernels etc for dib has suggested we could get that 3gb a bit lower too) | 19:17 |
| corvus | yeah | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | ianw: improving that in dib would be great for a bunch of reasons :) | 19:18 |
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| clarkb | Anything else OpenDev related? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:20 | |
| clarkb | ianw: I've not caught up on the backups with ansible status since getting back. Is that something that still needs review? | 19:20 |
| ianw | reviews in, thanks ... i will work on implementing it now | 19:23 |
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| ianw | it needs a trivial rebase to fix up the .zuul jobs after kafs things merged around it, that's all | 19:23 |
| clarkb | sounds good. | 19:23 |
| clarkb | Did anyone else have puppet replacement with ansible and/or docker changes in flight? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | Sounds like no. Lets move on then. | 19:26 |
| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:26 | |
| clarkb | fungi: Looks like the db lock issues that we thought had been fixed are still an issue? | 19:26 |
| fungi | yes, the retries are not a solution because the first hit on that db deadlock causes the transaction to be rolled back and so the session gets set inactive and can't be reused | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ah so need to retry with an entirely new session? | 19:27 |
| fungi | also i have a feeling the number of retries would need to scale (linearly) with the number of initial tasks being added, so it was a bit of a dirty workaround anyway in retrospect | 19:28 |
| fungi | we did also find some regressions in worklist and board creation which crept in with the team ownership feature, but those are patched now | 19:28 |
| clarkb | Have we seen improvements on the slow query log side of things? Seems like there were changes to make improvements to what that had found before I took a week off | 19:29 |
| fungi | and also an infrequent assertionerror which seems to occur when trying to write to rabbitmq (possibly when the event coincides with a heartbeat timeout, and those are happening every few minutes in production) | 19:29 |
| fungi | i don't think there's been much new movement on the query optimizing, since the outreachy intern we got ended up accepting a "real job" and having to cancel on us at the last moment | 19:30 |
| corvus | aw bummer, congrats! | 19:31 |
| clarkb | unfortunate for us but good for them Isuspect | 19:31 |
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| fungi | oh, also just moments ago cloudnull noticed that trying to import storyboardclient after pip installing it fails with a pbr versioning exception if your cwd is not a git repo | 19:31 |
| fungi | that's a strange one | 19:32 |
| fungi | like it can't find where the metadata got written | 19:32 |
| clarkb | that sounds like maybe an old pbr problem | 19:32 |
| clarkb | I want to say a bug around that was fixed years ago | 19:32 |
| fungi | pbr==5.3.1 | 19:33 |
| fungi | which seems to be the latest | 19:33 |
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| fungi | i suppose it could be a regression in last week's release, but seems unlikely we'd be the first to spot it | 19:34 |
| fungi | (last week's pbr 5.3.1 release i mean) | 19:35 |
| clarkb | seems like that should be reproduceable if it is outside of storyboardclient | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | I'll probably give that a quick go after the meeting | 19:35 |
| fungi | agreed, just starting to dig into it | 19:35 |
| clarkb | ok anything else or should we move on to the next items on the agenda? | 19:37 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:38 | |
| clarkb | First up a quick check to make sure I'm not neglecting any needed help with the wiki upgrade or status host upgrade | 19:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: mordred ^ anything we can help with there? | 19:38 |
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| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/666162 Canonicalize clone URLs | 19:38 |
| fungi | seems to be the next issue i'm hitting with wiki-dev deploymenty | 19:39 |
| clarkb | that is an easy one if anyone else has a quick moment | 19:39 |
| fungi | for whatever reason it seems like the clone url redirects are confusing the vcsrepo module | 19:39 |
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| fungi | and causing it to record what is considers the relative path to the repo as the content of a .git file instead of creating a .git directory | 19:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: as the output of the puppet git clone operations? | 19:41 |
| fungi | yes | 19:41 |
| fungi | so you end up with an otherwise empty directory that only contains a one-line file named .git whose contents are a relative file path | 19:42 |
| fungi | for example... | 19:42 |
| fungi | gitdir: ../../.git/modules/extensions/Renameuser | 19:42 |
| clarkb | are those submodules that need initing maybe? | 19:43 |
| clarkb | well we can debug that outside of the meeting | 19:44 |
| clarkb | Next up is talking about The status of afs on bionic and where we are at with kafs vs openafs | 19:44 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ want to fill us in? | 19:44 |
| clarkb | I'm particularly interested in which opendev mirrors are we using in prod and which of them are running kafs and which are running openafs and of those what versions of their respective afs/kernel are they on? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mostly to get a sense for how far into the future we've patched ourselves to get a working system | 19:45 |
| ianw | sorry, yeah ... so it looks like kafs is working | 19:47 |
| ianw | using a very latest afs-next branch from upstream developer dhowells | 19:47 |
| ianw | those patches are being finalised and making their way to the main kernel tree very soon | 19:48 |
| clarkb | so we are providing useful real world testing of kafs? :) | 19:48 |
| ianw | i think the next step now is to bring up another kafs mirror a long way from the servers to test out higher latency and network interruptions | 19:48 |
| ianw | clarkb: yes; Tested-By: us :) | 19:49 |
| clarkb | ianw: is the dfw mirror running the PPA built 1.8.3 openafs? | 19:49 |
| ianw | yes, that has also been going along fine afaik, though i haven't been monitoring it as actively | 19:49 |
| clarkb | sounds like we've got viable paths forward with both openafs and kafs then (and ya I've not seen screaming about out of data mirrors recently) | 19:50 |
| ianw | yep, once kafs changes make it to a upstream kernel, we have all the ansible roles now etc to deploy it | 19:51 |
| ianw | we certainly could create roles to build custom kernels etc, it might even be useful for upstream CI, but at this stage I think we just keep it a bit manual as we try things out | 19:51 |
| clarkb | I met someone on canonical's ubuntu server team over the weekend and they seemed to appreciate my bbq to maybe I can churn out more ribs to get stuff backported into bionic too >_> | 19:52 |
| ianw | only thing i got a bit stuck on with CI was re-establishing the zuul console streamer inside the nested ansible runs when we reboot for a new kernel in CI ... not sure we need to discuss that but i'm open to ideas :) | 19:52 |
| fungi | worth keeping in mind so far both of these are only testing anonymous/unauthenticated read-only afs client deployments | 19:52 |
| corvus | ianw: yeah, i guess that would need to be a ci-contingent task in our production playbooks | 19:53 |
| fungi | ianw: is adding a systemd unit file to start the console streamer at boot not a good solution? | 19:53 |
| clarkb | ianw: I think zuul would appreciate tooling around making reboots better in general so probably worthwhile to see if we can figure that out | 19:53 |
| fungi | (having the job-only ansible add that unit file i mean) | 19:53 |
| clarkb | (Rebooting comes up occasionally as a thing people want for a variety of reasons) | 19:53 |
| corvus | well, this is easy in zuul | 19:53 |
| ianw | fungi: it may be ... although it's usually initiated from the "other" side | 19:53 |
| fungi | what's initiated? | 19:54 |
| corvus | this is zuul-running-ansible-running-ansible | 19:54 |
| clarkb | corvus: oh its the second level ansible that makes it difficult because it knows not of zuul ? | 19:54 |
| corvus | clarkb: yep | 19:54 |
| ianw | fungi: the daemon; via ansible from the executor | 19:54 |
| clarkb | got it | 19:54 |
| ianw | yeah, it's the nesting that gets you :) | 19:54 |
| corvus | clarkb: so far options are: put a CI task in the production playbook, or put a CI systemd unit on the production systems... | 19:54 |
| fungi | ianw: but can't it be started again from the node itself? | 19:55 |
| corvus | both are layer violations which we may just have to deal with | 19:55 |
| fungi | or does it have to be started from the executor after reboot? | 19:55 |
| fungi | not sure we have to put a ci systemd unit on the production systems if it's the job ansible which installs that unit | 19:55 |
| ianw | fungi: ideally, it would be started by the executor after reboot; but as far as the executor is concerned, it's just running one big task "ansible-playbook ..." so there's no points inbetween to insert the zuul_console: call, if that makes sense | 19:56 |
| clarkb | we could even have our base job add that to all jobs | 19:56 |
| corvus | fungi: that might be a solution | 19:56 |
| clarkb | then jobs can reboot without worrying about managing the daemon themselves? | 19:56 |
| clarkb | that being the unit | 19:56 |
| fungi | basically at the very start of the job zuul adds a systemd unit file to the node | 19:56 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 19:57 |
| corvus | yeah, maybe we should try that for this job (stick in in the run-base pre playbook) and see how it goes | 19:57 |
| corvus | and if we like it, think about putting it in base | 19:57 |
| fungi | and then the node can reboot as many times as it likes and zuul doesn't need to know | 19:57 |
| corvus | wow, everything is named base | 19:57 |
| fungi | all our base | 19:57 |
| clarkb | belong to zuul | 19:57 |
| fungi | you got it | 19:57 |
| clarkb | as a time check we only have a couple minute sleft | 19:57 |
| corvus | meme overload | 19:57 |
| clarkb | so I'll open the floor to anything else | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:58 | |
| clarkb | You can find us in #openstack-infra or on the infra mailing list (openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org) if ~1.5 minutes isn't enough time | 19:58 |
| * corvus starts looking for a tshirt with "cats: there is no base, only zuul" | 19:59 | |
| clarkb | sounds like that may be it. Thank you everyone for the hour of your time | 19:59 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 20:00:04 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-25-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-25-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-25-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 25 21:00:17 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | \o | 21:00 |
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| oneswig | greetings | 21:00 |
| rbudden | hello | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Hey rbudden | 21:00 |
| martial | Hello gents | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Hi martial | 21:00 |
| oneswig | No underscores this week :-) | 21:01 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:01 |
| janders | g'day all! :) | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Hi janders | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | #link agenda for today (such as it is) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_June_25th_2019 | 21:03 |
| oneswig | Basically Bob's and Martial's suggestion that we cover Shanghai activities | 21:03 |
| oneswig | CFP deadline is next Tuesday IIRC | 21:03 |
| oneswig | Which is soon! | 21:03 |
| janders | oneswig: who's assessing the submissions for the HPC/AI track this time? | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Don't know - not me. | 21:05 |
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| janders | do you know who would know? | 21:05 |
| martial | not me either :) | 21:05 |
| oneswig | Not outside of the foundation, no. | 21:05 |
| oneswig | I'm hoping to put a talk in but I'm behind on preparation... | 21:07 |
| oneswig | janders: will you update us on where the SuperCloud has got to? | 21:07 |
| martial | janders: can still count you in for the "HPC using Open Infra" ? :) | 21:08 |
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| janders | that's a panel right? | 21:08 |
| oneswig | ... the more opinionated the better! | 21:09 |
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| martial | yes janders | 21:09 |
| janders | I would be interested - however I'm not sure if I will be able to go (China - Australia politics). In the worst case, would it be possible to swap me out for someone else if I couldn't go? | 21:10 |
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| oneswig | What would be tremendous would be to find someone local, but we've drawn a blank before on that | 21:11 |
| martial | we can try of course | 21:13 |
| oneswig | I had the card of somebody involved in Tianhe-2 (but didn't reply to previous mails). | 21:15 |
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| oneswig | I can try again. | 21:16 |
| clarkb | Horace (at the foundation) may have ideas for panel members too (I've pinged him but you might reach out to horace too) | 21:16 |
| oneswig | Hi clarkb - thanks for that - horace@openstack.org? | 21:17 |
| * clarkb double checks | 21:17 | |
| clarkb | oneswig: haoyang@openstack.org | 21:18 |
| oneswig | thanks | 21:18 |
| martial | cool, need to have a draft ready in a couple days | 21:18 |
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| janders | I'm happy to help | 21:18 |
| janders | would you be happy with a google doc approach? | 21:19 |
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| oneswig | br | 21:20 |
| oneswig | brb | 21:20 |
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| oneswig | I recall there was someone from KISTI (Korean supercomputer center) who attended a previous summit SIG meeting | 21:23 |
| clarkb | programming committee is listed at https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019 | 21:25 |
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| oneswig | Great, thanks again clarkb | 21:26 |
| janders | +1 | 21:26 |
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| oneswig | I have found the details for the person I met from Tianhe-2 | 21:30 |
| martial | (sorry otherwise occupied as you can see :) ) | 21:30 |
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| rbudden | apologies, i have to step offline to pick up my son. i’ll catch up via logs. Just a reminder though, that SC19’ BoF deadline is Jul 31. | 21:33 |
| rbudden | take care everyone! | 21:33 |
| oneswig | Thanks rbudden, until next time | 21:34 |
| martial | Thanks Bob, yes on SC19 | 21:34 |
| martial | we are still good on panel for Summit | 21:34 |
| martial | for people interested, reach out to me on our slack | 21:34 |
| oneswig | martial: are there plans for ORCA at this summit? | 21:34 |
| martial | https://join.slack.com/t/os-scientific-sig/shared_invite/enQtNjUwNzU3MTUxNjAyLTgyMDAxNWE5NDQxODg2OWZlYzMzNTdiYTk1ZjQ4MDIwYTI4YWRjYTM3ZGM1MzIxODFhMmE2NmM3N2IzMjE3MWY | 21:34 |
| martial | no ORCA in Shanghai or cloud federation | 21:35 |
| martial | we are planing to open the document for public comment in a couple weeks (NIST work) | 21:35 |
| martial | P2302 | 21:35 |
| martial | we have PEARC coming up | 21:35 |
| martial | so there is tht | 21:35 |
| martial | that | 21:35 |
| oneswig | Is that with Craig Lee? | 21:35 |
| martial | yes | 21:35 |
| oneswig | Good to hear things moving forward, albeit steadily | 21:36 |
| oneswig | martial: the agenda was pretty minimal this week, anything more to cover? | 21:39 |
| janders | I'm good | 21:39 |
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| oneswig | I'm cranking through a Monasca agent patch in the background... | 21:40 |
| oneswig | janders: anything on the SDN side? | 21:40 |
| janders | no, nothing new to report | 21:40 |
| oneswig | we are off topic) | 21:40 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:40 |
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| oneswig | I was interested if you've heard of anyone using OpenDaylight with Ironic? | 21:41 |
| oneswig | Or, more esoterically, ONOS? | 21:41 |
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| janders | no, I haven't | 21:41 |
| oneswig | asking for a friend... :-) | 21:41 |
| oneswig | One for the list possibly. | 21:42 |
| oneswig | OK martial janders, shall we close for the week, and resume talk on the panel via Slack? | 21:43 |
| janders | ok! | 21:44 |
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| oneswig | Thanks all, until next time (let's try to bring more to the agenda) | 21:44 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 21:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 21:44:54 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-06-25-21.00.html | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-06-25-21.00.txt | 21:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-06-25-21.00.log.html | 21:45 |
| martial | Thanks all | 21:45 |
| oneswig | cheers martial | 21:45 |
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