Tuesday, 2019-06-25

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samP#startmeeting masakari04:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 25 04:02:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:02
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samPhi all for masakari04:02
samPtpatil: Hi04:02
samP#topic Critical Bugs and Patches04:02
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samPAny critical bugs or patches need to discuss here?04:03
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tpatilNot from my end04:04
samPif any please bring them up any time.04:05
samPtpatil: thanks04:05
samP#topic Train Work Items04:05
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samPPlease share updates if you have any on  train work items04:05
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tpatilSorry I got disconnected04:09
samPtpatil: welcome back!04:09
samPtpatil: no04:09
samPtpatil: np04:09
tpatilPls give me two mins04:10
samPtpatil: sure04:10
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tpatilI'm back again04:13
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tpatilTrain item status: Not much progress last week. We are working on configuring stonith resource after which we will update the masakari-monitor documentation patch04:13
samPtpatil: welcome04:13
samPtpatil: no problem. thanks for the update04:14
samPopic AOB04:14
samP#topic AOB04:14
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aditya-dhole10I had some questions about the IPMI configuration04:15
samPsure, go ahead04:16
aditya-dhole10Which network Interface does the IPMI device use.. I have tried assigning IP address to it and configuring user credentials, but couldn't remotely check the power status04:16
aditya-dhole10Error issuing Get Channel Authentication Capabilities requestError: Unable to establish IPMI v2 / RMCP+ session04:17
samPThese questions are related to MasakariCI internal network settings. I would like to answer these questions in private email.04:18
samPcould you please send me email with your questions?04:18
aditya-dhole10Sure.. thanks04:19
aditya-dhole10My apologies for raising these doubts here!.. I will send you a email about this.04:19
samPno worries.04:20
samPI am thinking to change masakari meeting to biweekly. Any thoughts?04:21
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samPsince, we don't have much development going on and anyone can contact the masakari team in IRC or openstack-discuss ML04:23
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samPplease let me know what do you think on this.04:24
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tpatil4sounds good to me04:25
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samPOK then. Let's to the next week meeting as normal. And no objections, from next week, let's change the meeting time to biweekly.04:26
samPThat would be, every 1st and 3rd week of the month.04:27
samPI will do the required changes to meeting time04:28
samPif no other items to discuss, let's finish today's meeting04:28
samPThank you all!04:28
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Tenguhello there05:01
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dkushwaha#startmeeting tacker08:04
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 25 08:04:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:04
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dkushwaha#topic Roll Call08:04
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dkushwahawho is here for Tacker weekly meeting?08:04
joxyukidkushwaha, hi08:04
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dkushwahahowdy all08:05
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dkushwahaok lets start..08:07
dkushwaha#topic announcement08:07
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dkushwahaShanghai summit CFP is open.08:08
dkushwaha#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/08:08
dkushwahadeadline for submitting topics is July 2, 2019 at 11:59pm PT08:08
dkushwaha#topic announcement Openstack release schedule08:10
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dkushwaha#link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html08:10
dkushwahaWe are in train-2 milestone and have to complete all specs before deadline(july end)08:11
dkushwahaso please prioritize accordingly08:11
dkushwahamoving next..08:13
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dkushwaha#topic BP ns force delete08:13
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dkushwaha#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666496/08:13
dkushwahaI am working on this patch, and hopefully will complete in couple of day08:14
dkushwahaclient patch is already there #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/626854/08:14
dkushwahaso please review it.08:14
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dkushwahaits from my side as of now08:15
dkushwahamoving next..08:16
dkushwaha#topic VNF packages support for VNF onboarding08:16
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dkushwaha#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/582930/08:16
dkushwahajoxyuki, any update from your side08:17
joxyukiI just update the spec, please review it.08:17
joxyukiImplementation is proceeding in parallel.08:17
dkushwahajoxyuki, nice, will review it.08:19
tpatilon the implementation front, I was thinking of using glance_store library to store the csar file so that it can leverage to store the csar file in different stores filesystem, swift etc.08:19
tpatilI'm talking about VNF packages support specs08:19
tpatilAny suggestions on using glance_store lib?08:20
tpatilglance_store supports you to download the csar file from URI directly so we don't need to rewrite any code in tacker08:21
dkushwahatpatil, do you mean extracted files ?08:21
tpatilno, just csar file, Once the csar file is available in glance_store, you will need to write logic to extract it and read the contents08:22
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dkushwahatpatil, I see. Yea it looks nice approach.08:23
dkushwahawe can mention the same is spec as well08:24
dkushwahamoving next08:26
dkushwahahello phuochoang08:27
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phuochoangcurrently, I works on integrating Tungsten fabric SDN controller on my company08:28
phuochoangso I will raise a spec, that support service chain with TF controller08:29
dkushwahaphuochoang, can you give a brief about Tungsten fabric08:30
phuochoanglike other SDN controller such as ONOS or ODL, Tungsten fabric supports almost networking features08:31
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dkushwahais it open-source?08:33
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phuochoangyes, it's open source08:33
phuochoangTungsten fabric has good features to support EVPN, it's compatible with our company's networking fabric08:34
phuochoangthat's all from me08:34
dkushwahaphuochoang, so are you integrating TF with Tacker in your company use case also?08:35
joxyukiphuochoang, sounds good, looking forward to see your spec.08:35
phuochoangyes, it is our plan for next year08:36
dkushwahajoxyuki, +108:36
dkushwahaphuochoang, cool, interested to see the spec.08:37
dkushwahamoving next..08:37
phuochoangabout CFP, I think we can have a talk about our new features08:37
dkushwaha#topic OpenDiscussion08:37
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phuochoangI hope to join one of our presentations08:38
dkushwahaphuochoang, and all, I just had created an etherpad link for that08:41
dkushwaha#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tacker-CFP-shanghai-summit08:41
dkushwahaPlease feel free to add your topics here and mention your name if you are intrested to join session08:43
phuochoangdkushwaha, thank you08:43
dkushwahamoving next08:45
dkushwahatakahashi-tsc, Thanks for your great effort for working on Tacker qualities issues.08:46
dkushwahaI had raised some bugs regarding the same.08:47
dkushwaha#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/183350608:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1833506 in tacker "VNF force delete failed with invalid VIM error" [High,New] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha)08:47
dkushwaha#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/183350508:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1833505 in tacker "VNF scale failed for non-admin tenants" [Critical,New] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha)08:47
dkushwahaI work on the same to fix them soon08:48
takahashi-tscYeah, we use Tacker with our app, in order to demo, and so on.08:48
takahashi-tscWe can also contribute bug patch. I'm glad that we can improve Tacker's quality08:49
dkushwahatakahashi-tsc, Thanks , looking forward for your support. Please feel free to discuss/raise issues08:51
dkushwahamoving next..08:51
dkushwahaDo we have something to discuss for now?08:52
dkushwahaotherwise we can close this meeting.08:52
dkushwahaOk, Thanks Folks for joining this meeting.08:54
dkushwahaclosing it now.08:54
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jun 25 16:00:14 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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slaweqI know that mlavalle and bcafarel will not be there today but lets wait couple of minutes for others16:00
ralonsohthis is going to be a 1vs1 match16:02
slaweqralonsoh: yeah :)16:03
slaweqmaybe we can just cancel it then, what do You think?16:04
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ralonsohlet's go16:04
ralonsohok ok16:04
ralonsohis there something important?16:04
slaweqTBH I was  today involved in one internal issue almost whole day16:04
slaweqand I didn't have time to check it16:04
slaweqlets maybe check now grafana how it looks like16:05
slaweqwithout strict agenda :)16:05
ralonsohno problem, at least you solved yesterday the CI problem with the nova patch16:05
slaweqyes, that one should be fine now :)16:05
ralonsohit is16:05
slaweqthat is good :)16:06
ralonsohdo you see something with high failure rate?16:07
slaweqyes, but this one is like that for long time16:07
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slaweqand I didn't have time to look into it yet16:07
ralonsohI see16:07
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slaweqother than that there is also neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario (non-voting) failing a lot16:08
slaweqbut that is also "normal"16:08
ralonsohyou are right16:08
slaweqand good news is that I think I found why test_connectivity_through_2_routers is failing16:08
ralonsohdid you? what's happening?16:08
slaweqso it's IMO race16:09
slaweqinstances are spawned here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/neutron_tempest_plugin/scenario/test_connectivity.py#L8616:09
njohnstonsorry I am late16:09
slaweqand after that in next lines networks are connected to the routers16:09
ralonsohand do you think there is a race condition there?16:10
slaweqand if L3 agent is overloaded and is connecting everything slowly, than instance boot and can't configure public keys as metadata is not reachable yet16:10
slaweqI was able to reproduce this issue locally16:10
njohnstonmakes sense, good find16:10
slaweqand when I moved spawning servers to L103, it passed few times for me16:10
ralonsohso, adding more time to reach the metadata is not possible16:11
slaweqand also evey log which I checked from this failed test got those errors with reaching metadata IP16:11
slaweqnjohnston: and hi :)16:11
ralonsohoook so good change, add me to the patch reviews16:11
slaweqbut, I will push patch tomorrow probably16:12
ralonsohI have another issue, related to CI16:12
slaweqand the same issue can be in our d/s CI with this test16:12
ralonsohand maybe real deployments16:12
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/183372116:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1833721 in neutron "ip_lib synchronized decorator should wrap the privileged one" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)16:12
ralonsohthe patch proposed is not working in py2716:12
ralonsohand maybe, if pyroute2 fixes the problem in the next days, we can remove the sync decorators16:13
ralonsohso I'll keep this bug just for reference16:13
slaweqI hope we can remove this decorator soon :)16:13
ralonsohthat's all from my side16:14
slaweqnjohnston: just FYI, as we were only 2 with ralonsoh we decided today to quickly check current CI status and don't follow usual agenda today16:14
slaweqnjohnston: do You have anything You would like to discuss?16:15
njohnstonsounds good; I have been hip deep in regressions but nothing that pertains to CI16:15
njohnstonso nothing here16:16
slaweqok, so I think we can finish this meeting earlier today as I didn't prepare anything else16:16
ralonsohperfect for me16:16
slaweqCI looks "as usual" today so we should be good16:16
ralonsohhehehe "usual"16:16
njohnstonbetter than usual!16:17
slaweqmaybe even better :)16:17
slaweqok thx for attending16:17
slaweqand see You online :)16:18
ralonsohsee you folks16:18
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clarkbAnyone else here for the infra team meeting?19:00
clarkbWe will get started shortly19:00
clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
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clarkb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-June/006408.html19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:01
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clarkbFirst up a warning that we did remove the zuul cloner shim and bindep fallback file from all jobs except for those that parent to openstack's legacy-base job19:02
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clarkbThis should speed up the vast majority of our jobs, but there hsa been some fallout with jobs needing to either use bindep or drop z-c or reparent to legacy-base19:02
clarkbSo be aware that change happened if people ask why mysql isn't installed or why zuul-cloner isn't found19:03
clarkbAlso the Shanghai OpenInfra Summit CFP closes July 219:03
clarkb#link https://cfp.openstack.org/ Shanghai Summit CFP Deadline July 219:03
clarkbIf you'd like to speed there in november don't forget to get your proposals submitted19:04
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:04
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-06-18-19.00.txt minutes from last meeting19:05
clarkbcorvus: had a chance to work with jroll on self managed openstack github org yet?19:05
jrollyeah, he emailed me19:05
jrollI've been meaning to start that conversation with the TC today19:06
clarkbsounds like progress, thanks19:06
clarkbI havne't seen mordred here today but he was going to create and opendevadmin account in github. Anyone know if that happened?19:06
clarkbalso was going to look into cleaning up our unused, now stale openstack-infra github org19:07
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corvusi'm unsure if either of those happened19:07
clarkb#action mordred create opendevadmin github account19:07
fungiclarkb: oh, also came up yesterday that there are still a ton of opendev namespace repos in openstack governance reference projects list. are we planning to remove those?19:08
clarkb#action mordred look into cleaning up openstack-infra github org as it is no longer used and is now stale19:08
corvusmordred is expecting next week to be a more regular work week, so hopefully something more concrete next meeting19:08
clarkbfungi: I think that likely requires a bigger zuul like discussion?19:08
fungiahh, fair19:08
clarkband maybe we are far enough along to have that discussion now19:09
fungicame up in the context of the python3 migration goal for openstack19:09
fungiand whether the opendev namespace repos need to be included in that work19:09
fungi(this is the stein supported runtimes addition of 3.7 and removal of 3.5)19:09
clarkbmuch of our stuff still needs work to python3 properly. I think we'd gladly accept help with those ports but probably getting ahead of ourselves to think we can even skip 3.519:10
fungiyeah, i told coreycb to deprioritize any in the opendev namespace for now19:10
clarkbsounds good19:11
clarkbProbably a good transition to talking about opendev19:11
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:11
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clarkb#topic OpenDev19:11
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fungiopendev: it's what's for breakfast19:12
clarkbI've put a little bit of time this morning into thinking through a gitea06 redeployment. I think the rough plan I'm going to use is boot new gitea06 on manually uploaded image built by nodepool, add that to the inventory in system-config but exclude it from the play that creates projects in gitea within remote_puppet_git.yaml19:12
clarkbthat will have ansible install docker and deploy an empty gitea install. I can then restore the db from say gitea01 into new gitea06, update dns, trigger replication from gerrit to gitea06, then when that is all done remove the exclusion in remote_puppet_git and add it to haproxy19:13
clarkbcorvus: ^ knowing what you know of gitea and its database any concerns with that process?19:13
fungiis there concern about image proliferation since any image uploaded has to be kept around in glance for as long as there is a server instance which used it for boot-from-volume cow?19:13
corvusclarkb: that sounds fine19:14
clarkbfungi: yes before I went on vacation I started the process to remove control plane image management from nodepool for that reason19:14
clarkbfungi: that is also why I manually uploaded one of the nodepool images outside of nodepool so that we can have a working good image without nodepool trying to unsuccessfully manage it for us19:14
fungiso we probably want to pick particular checkpoints and then reuse the same images for a while19:14
corvusi think we just have to live with that restriction, but because this is outside of nodepool, i don't think we'll be too bothered19:15
fungirather than upload a new image each time we boot a new server19:15
corvusi think we're also still expecting to have a second nodepool manage these images eventually19:15
fungiand end up with almost as many images in glance as we have servers19:15
corvusso i think we will have image proliferation... i'm not too bothered by it19:15
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corvus(as long as it isn't mucking up zuul's nodepool)19:15
clarkbya I think the bigger issue was the mixing with our test side stuff19:15
fungiyeah, i guess if we had a separate nodepool, it wouldn't have to upload new images daily either19:15
clarkbas it will cause problems there19:15
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clarkbalso these images are about 3GB in raw format19:16
fungiweekly/monthly images might be fine, and could cut down on the number of unique images we end up with in glance19:16
clarkbfor now we should be able to safely use the manually uploaded relatively recent image19:17
clarkbI want ot say our launch process updates packages and reboots too19:17
ianw(some recent discussions on kernels etc for dib has suggested we could get that 3gb a bit lower too)19:17
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clarkbianw: improving that in dib would be great for a bunch of reasons :)19:18
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clarkbAnything else OpenDev related?19:18
clarkb#topic Update Config Management19:20
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clarkbianw: I've not caught up on the backups with ansible status since getting back. Is that something that still needs review?19:20
ianwreviews in, thanks ... i will work on implementing it now19:23
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ianwit needs a trivial rebase to fix up the .zuul jobs after kafs things merged around it, that's all19:23
clarkbsounds good.19:23
clarkbDid anyone else have puppet replacement with ansible and/or docker changes in flight?19:24
clarkbSounds like no. Lets move on then.19:26
clarkb#topic Storyboard19:26
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clarkbfungi: Looks like the db lock issues that we thought had been fixed are still an issue?19:26
fungiyes, the retries are not a solution because the first hit on that db deadlock causes the transaction to be rolled back and so the session gets set inactive and can't be reused19:27
clarkbah so need to retry with an entirely new session?19:27
fungialso i have a feeling the number of retries would need to scale (linearly) with the number of initial tasks being added, so it was a bit of a dirty workaround anyway in retrospect19:28
fungiwe did also find some regressions in worklist and board creation which crept in with the team ownership feature, but those are patched now19:28
clarkbHave we seen improvements on the slow query log side of things? Seems like there were changes to make improvements to what that had found before I took a week off19:29
fungiand also an infrequent assertionerror which seems to occur when trying to write to rabbitmq (possibly when the event coincides with a heartbeat timeout, and those are happening every few minutes in production)19:29
fungii don't think there's been much new movement on the query optimizing, since the outreachy intern we got ended up accepting a "real job" and having to cancel on us at the last moment19:30
corvusaw bummer, congrats!19:31
clarkbunfortunate for us but good for them  Isuspect19:31
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fungioh, also just moments ago cloudnull noticed that trying to import storyboardclient after pip installing it fails with a pbr versioning exception if your cwd is not a git repo19:31
fungithat's a strange one19:32
fungilike it can't find where the metadata got written19:32
clarkbthat sounds like maybe an old pbr problem19:32
clarkbI want to say a bug around that was fixed years ago19:32
fungiwhich seems to be the latest19:33
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fungii suppose it could be a regression in last week's release, but seems unlikely we'd be the first to spot it19:34
fungi(last week's pbr 5.3.1 release i mean)19:35
clarkbseems like that should be reproduceable if it is outside of storyboardclient19:35
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clarkbI'll probably give that a quick go after the meeting19:35
fungiagreed, just starting to dig into it19:35
clarkbok anything else or should we move on to the next items on the agenda?19:37
clarkb#topic General Topics19:38
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clarkbFirst up a quick check to make sure I'm not neglecting any needed help with the wiki upgrade or status host upgrade19:38
clarkbfungi: mordred ^ anything we can help with there?19:38
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fungi#link https://review.opendev.org/666162 Canonicalize clone URLs19:38
fungiseems to be the next issue i'm hitting with wiki-dev deploymenty19:39
clarkbthat is an easy one if anyone else has a quick moment19:39
fungifor whatever reason it seems like the clone url redirects are confusing the vcsrepo module19:39
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fungiand causing it to record what is considers the relative path to the repo as the content of a .git file instead of creating a .git directory19:40
clarkbfungi: as the output of the puppet git clone operations?19:41
fungiso you end up with an otherwise empty directory that only contains a one-line file named .git whose contents are a relative file path19:42
fungifor example...19:42
fungigitdir: ../../.git/modules/extensions/Renameuser19:42
clarkbare those submodules that need initing maybe?19:43
clarkbwell we can debug that outside of the meeting19:44
clarkbNext up is talking about The status of afs on bionic and where we are at with kafs vs openafs19:44
clarkbianw: ^ want to fill us in?19:44
clarkbI'm particularly interested in which opendev mirrors are we using in prod and which of them are running kafs and which are running openafs and of those what versions of their respective afs/kernel are they on?19:45
clarkbmostly to get a sense for how far into the future we've patched ourselves to get a working system19:45
ianwsorry, yeah ... so it looks like kafs is working19:47
ianwusing a very latest afs-next branch from upstream developer dhowells19:47
ianwthose patches are being finalised and making their way to the main kernel tree very soon19:48
clarkbso we are providing useful real world testing of kafs? :)19:48
ianwi think the next step now is to bring up another kafs mirror a long way from the servers to test out higher latency and network interruptions19:48
ianwclarkb: yes; Tested-By: us :)19:49
clarkbianw: is the dfw mirror running the PPA built 1.8.3 openafs?19:49
ianwyes, that has also been going along fine afaik, though i haven't been monitoring it as actively19:49
clarkbsounds like we've got viable paths forward with both openafs and kafs then (and ya I've not seen screaming about out of data mirrors recently)19:50
ianwyep, once kafs changes make it to a upstream kernel, we have all the ansible roles now etc to deploy it19:51
ianwwe certainly could create roles to build custom kernels etc, it might even be useful for upstream CI, but at this stage I think we just keep it a bit manual as we try things out19:51
clarkbI met someone on canonical's ubuntu server team over the weekend and they seemed to appreciate my bbq to maybe I can churn out more ribs to get stuff backported into bionic too >_>19:52
ianwonly thing i got a bit stuck on with CI was re-establishing the zuul console streamer inside the nested ansible runs when we reboot for a new kernel in CI ... not sure we need to discuss that but i'm open to ideas :)19:52
fungiworth keeping in mind so far both of these are only testing anonymous/unauthenticated read-only afs client deployments19:52
corvusianw: yeah, i guess that would need to be a ci-contingent task in our production playbooks19:53
fungiianw: is adding a systemd unit file to start the console streamer at boot not a good solution?19:53
clarkbianw: I think zuul would appreciate tooling around making reboots better in general so probably worthwhile to see if we can figure that out19:53
fungi(having the job-only ansible add that unit file i mean)19:53
clarkb(Rebooting comes up occasionally as a thing people want for a variety of reasons)19:53
corvuswell, this is easy in zuul19:53
ianwfungi: it may be ... although it's usually initiated from the "other" side19:53
fungiwhat's initiated?19:54
corvusthis is zuul-running-ansible-running-ansible19:54
clarkbcorvus: oh its the second level ansible that makes it difficult because it knows not of zuul ?19:54
corvusclarkb: yep19:54
ianwfungi: the daemon; via ansible from the executor19:54
clarkbgot it19:54
ianwyeah, it's the nesting that gets you :)19:54
corvusclarkb: so far options are: put a CI task in the production playbook, or put a CI systemd unit on the production systems...19:54
fungiianw: but can't it be started again from the node itself?19:55
corvusboth are layer violations which we may just have to deal with19:55
fungior does it have to be started from the executor after reboot?19:55
funginot sure we have to put a ci systemd unit on the production systems if it's the job ansible which installs that unit19:55
ianwfungi: ideally, it would be started by the executor after reboot; but as far as the executor is concerned, it's just running one big task "ansible-playbook ..." so there's no points inbetween to insert the zuul_console: call, if that makes sense19:56
clarkbwe could even have our base job add that to all jobs19:56
corvusfungi: that might be a solution19:56
clarkbthen jobs can reboot without worrying about managing the daemon themselves?19:56
clarkbthat being the unit19:56
fungibasically at the very start of the job zuul adds a systemd unit file to the node19:56
clarkbfungi: ya19:57
corvusyeah, maybe we should try that for this job (stick in in the run-base pre playbook) and see how it goes19:57
corvusand if we like it, think about putting it in base19:57
fungiand then the node can reboot as many times as it likes and zuul doesn't need to know19:57
corvuswow, everything is named base19:57
fungiall our base19:57
clarkbbelong to zuul19:57
fungiyou got it19:57
clarkbas a time check we only have a couple minute sleft19:57
corvusmeme overload19:57
clarkbso I'll open the floor to anything else19:57
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:58
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clarkbYou can find us in #openstack-infra or on the infra mailing list (openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org) if ~1.5 minutes isn't enough time19:58
* corvus starts looking for a tshirt with "cats: there is no base, only zuul"19:59
clarkbsounds like that may be it. Thank you everyone for the hour of your time19:59
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
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oneswigHey rbudden21:00
martialHello gents21:00
oneswigHi martial21:00
oneswigNo underscores this week :-)21:01
oneswig#chair martial21:01
openstackCurrent chairs: martial oneswig21:01
jandersg'day all! :)21:01
oneswigHi janders21:01
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oneswig#link agenda for today (such as it is) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_June_25th_201921:03
oneswigBasically Bob's and Martial's suggestion that we cover Shanghai activities21:03
oneswigCFP deadline is next Tuesday IIRC21:03
oneswigWhich is soon!21:03
jandersoneswig: who's assessing the submissions for the HPC/AI track this time?21:04
oneswigDon't know - not me.21:05
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jandersdo you know who would know?21:05
martialnot me either :)21:05
oneswigNot outside of the foundation, no.21:05
oneswigI'm hoping to put a talk in but I'm behind on preparation...21:07
oneswigjanders: will you update us on where the SuperCloud has got to?21:07
martialjanders: can still count you in for the "HPC using Open Infra" ? :)21:08
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jandersthat's a panel right?21:08
oneswig... the more opinionated the better!21:09
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martialyes janders21:09
jandersI would be interested - however I'm not sure if I will be able to go (China - Australia politics). In the worst case, would it be possible to swap me out for someone else if I couldn't go?21:10
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oneswigWhat would be tremendous would be to find someone local, but we've drawn a blank before on that21:11
martialwe can try of course21:13
oneswigI had the card of somebody involved in Tianhe-2 (but didn't reply to previous mails).21:15
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oneswigI can try again.21:16
clarkbHorace (at the foundation) may have ideas for panel members too (I've pinged him but you might reach out to horace too)21:16
oneswigHi clarkb - thanks for that - horace@openstack.org?21:17
* clarkb double checks21:17
clarkboneswig: haoyang@openstack.org21:18
martialcool, need to have a draft ready in a couple days21:18
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jandersI'm happy to help21:18
janderswould you be happy with a google doc approach?21:19
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oneswigI recall there was someone from KISTI (Korean supercomputer center) who attended a previous summit SIG meeting21:23
clarkbprogramming committee is listed at https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-201921:25
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oneswigGreat, thanks again clarkb21:26
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oneswigI have found the details for the person I met from Tianhe-221:30
martial(sorry otherwise occupied as you can see :) )21:30
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rbuddenapologies, i have to step offline to pick up my son. i’ll catch up via logs. Just a reminder though, that SC19’ BoF deadline is Jul 31.21:33
rbuddentake care everyone!21:33
oneswigThanks rbudden, until next time21:34
martialThanks Bob, yes on SC1921:34
martialwe are still good on panel for Summit21:34
martialfor people interested, reach out to me on our slack21:34
oneswigmartial: are there plans for ORCA at this summit?21:34
martialno ORCA in Shanghai or cloud federation21:35
martialwe are planing to open the document for public comment in a couple weeks (NIST work)21:35
martialwe have PEARC coming up21:35
martialso there is tht21:35
oneswigIs that with Craig Lee?21:35
oneswigGood to hear things moving forward, albeit steadily21:36
oneswigmartial: the agenda was pretty minimal this week, anything more to cover?21:39
jandersI'm good21:39
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oneswigI'm cranking through a Monasca agent patch in the background...21:40
oneswigjanders: anything on the SDN side?21:40
jandersno, nothing new to report21:40
oneswigwe are off topic)21:40
oneswig#topic AOB21:40
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oneswigI was interested if you've heard of anyone using OpenDaylight with Ironic?21:41
oneswigOr, more esoterically, ONOS?21:41
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jandersno, I haven't21:41
oneswigasking for a friend... :-)21:41
oneswigOne for the list possibly.21:42
oneswigOK martial janders, shall we close for the week, and resume talk on the panel via Slack?21:43
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oneswigThanks all, until next time (let's try to bring more to the agenda)21:44
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martialThanks all21:45
oneswigcheers martial21:45
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