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| zhangchi | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 3 01:06:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhangchi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:06 |
| zhangchi | Morning all | 01:08 |
| zhangchi | Welcome back to join. Time's up for tricircle meeting | 01:08 |
| XSM_HUST | morning | 01:08 |
| zhangchi | Hi XSM_HUSt | 01:09 |
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| XSM_HUST | hi zhangchi | 01:10 |
| zhangchi | I saw community has released and fixed the problem that zun add region name | 01:12 |
| XSM_HUST | yes | 01:13 |
| zhangchi | while kuryr keep still | 01:13 |
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| zhangchi | so can the job test container running in tricirlce enviroment move on | 01:15 |
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| XSM_HUST | Yes, it can . | 01:17 |
| zhangchi | Great! | 01:21 |
| zhangchi | Tricircle tempest ci has get recovered | 01:23 |
| zhangchi | The problem is neutron master introduced the patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660174/ | 01:24 |
| zhangchi | this resolution inject admin context by force | 01:24 |
| zhangchi | We should update the security rule tempest test case | 01:28 |
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| zhangchi | Meanwhile the spec join tricircle and trio2o together has submitted to github | 01:35 |
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| zhangchi | This is a huge project and will take a lot of work | 01:38 |
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| zhangchi | we will divide the job shown in etherpad. anyone interested in this can claim the jobs | 01:41 |
| zhangchi | ok | 01:44 |
| zhangchi | Any other problems or topics? | 01:45 |
| zhangchi | Welcome and please feel free to join this | 01:46 |
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| zhangchi | You are welcome to make suggestions | 01:52 |
| zhangchi | If not we will endmeeting now. Wecome to join. | 01:53 |
| zhangchi | Next session is July 17th | 01:53 |
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| zhangchi | Thanks XSM_HUST | 01:54 |
| zhangchi | bye | 01:54 |
| zhangchi | #endmeeting | 01:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 3 01:54:23 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-07-03-01.06.html | 01:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-07-03-01.06.txt | 01:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-07-03-01.06.log.html | 01:54 |
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| gmann | slaweq: i will setup the ipv6 goal things soon and let you know | 06:46 |
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| slaweq | gmann: thx for info, I wanted to ask You about it | 06:57 |
| slaweq | please let me know if I will be able to help with this somehow | 06:57 |
| slaweq | btw. which TZ are You now? I though You are somewhere in Canada :) | 06:58 |
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| gmann | slaweq: thanks, surly i will tell you. | 07:00 |
| gmann | slaweq: i am in Tokyo for few months. | 07:01 |
| slaweq | ahh, ok | 07:01 |
| slaweq | gmann: that explains why You are now online :) | 07:01 |
| slaweq | gmann: btw. can You take a look at patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668311/ if You will have few minutes? | 07:02 |
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| gmann | slaweq: :) | 07:05 |
| gmann | slaweq: sure. i will check that | 07:05 |
| slaweq | gmann: thx a lot | 07:05 |
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| oneswig | Apologies, no Scientific SIG IRC meeting today - no chairs available | 11:01 |
| b1airo | hi oneswig | 11:02 |
| oneswig | Ah, no sooner had I said it. | 11:02 |
| oneswig | hi b1airo | 11:02 |
| janders | hi guys | 11:03 |
| janders | how is it going? | 11:03 |
| janders | so meeting or no meeting? | 11:03 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 11:03 |
| oneswig | I don't think an agenda has been created, unfortunately. I'm in a 2-day meeting now... | 11:03 |
| oneswig | We could just catch up briefly I guess? | 11:04 |
| oneswig | now that we are here... | 11:04 |
| janders | do you guys have any experience with Intel branded servers? | 11:04 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 11:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 3 11:04:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:04 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 11:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 11:04 |
| oneswig | janders: used the 2600TP white box servers | 11:04 |
| b1airo | sorry, laptop just froze at a very inopportune moment | 11:04 |
| janders | oneswig: yes, those ones | 11:04 |
| janders | do you have any experience with automating BIOS configuration? | 11:05 |
| oneswig | Would prefer not to, bmc and bios firmware was not good. | 11:05 |
| janders | oops then we might be a little screwed | 11:05 |
| oneswig | janders: I don't think it is possible. I recall we had to upgrade NIC firmware on them and it was painful at the time. | 11:05 |
| oneswig | (this was 2 years ago, things may have improved). | 11:05 |
| janders | they have partial redfish support but it seems very read-only especially if done via ansible | 11:05 |
| janders | there are some new tools my guys are testing | 11:06 |
| oneswig | sounds like things have evolved a bit then. | 11:06 |
| b1airo | were they cheap enough to warrant it...? | 11:06 |
| janders | but I'm in discussion with their devs, they seem to be keen to make things better | 11:06 |
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| janders | allright.. it's good to know we're not alone | 11:07 |
| janders | these seem pretty cool piece of kit other than this "little | 11:07 |
| janders | " detail | 11:07 |
| janders | I will try to work out something with Intel and happy to report back if anyone is interested | 11:07 |
| oneswig | always like a discussion on things like that... | 11:08 |
| oneswig | belmoreira: I have John and Mark here, are you available to discuss next week? | 11:08 |
| belmoreira | should be fine. Send me your availability (day, hour) and I will check with the other guys | 11:09 |
| oneswig | will do, thanks (and apologies for the thrash) | 11:09 |
| belmoreira | oneswig no worries | 11:10 |
| oneswig | How's the new control plane rollout going? | 11:10 |
| b1airo | how's your control-plane k8s-ing going belmoreira ? | 11:10 |
| b1airo | jinx | 11:11 |
| oneswig | :-) | 11:11 |
| belmoreira | :) | 11:11 |
| belmoreira | we have production request going to the k8s cluster with glance | 11:11 |
| belmoreira | next step is nova-api (maybe next week) | 11:12 |
| janders | nice! | 11:12 |
| belmoreira | and then have a full cell control plane | 11:12 |
| belmoreira | the main motivation is to gain ops experience and see if it's makes sense to move the control plane to k8s | 11:12 |
| janders | belmoreira: when complete, will you run a "small/internal" k8s to run OpenStack control plane that will then run "large/user-facing" k8s on top? | 11:13 |
| belmoreira | janders not clear. What I would like is to have the k8s cluster deployed with magnum in the same infrastructure. Like the inception that we have today for the control plane VMs | 11:14 |
| janders | inception... is the OpenStack running itself, essentially? | 11:15 |
| b1airo | if i've understood belmoreira's current cell-level control-plane architecture correctly then each control-plane k8s cluster will itself be running across some subset of his production cloud! it's turtles, or dogfood - hopefully those things aren't equivalent - all the way down/round | 11:15 |
| belmoreira | b1airo: that's it | 11:16 |
| b1airo | memory can't be too rusty yet then, despite being part of a "fleshy von neumann machine" (referencing a conversation earlier this evening) | 11:17 |
| b1airo | anyone played with Singularity 3.3 yet? | 11:18 |
| b1airo | fakeroot builds and such? | 11:18 |
| b1airo | (it's still in rc for the moment i think, so won't be surprised if not) | 11:18 |
| oneswig | belmoreira: got any tips for ceph mds performance? We've got a deployment with CephFS as a cluster filesystem and it's apparently pegged in directory operations | 11:21 |
| b1airo | yeesh, is telling them not to do that an option oneswig ? | 11:23 |
| oneswig | belmoreira: back on the self-hosted control plane, what have you looked at in terms of disaster recovery scenarios? How to fix a broken control plane from within? | 11:24 |
| oneswig | b1airo: It was my idea ... | 11:25 |
| oneswig | I have to head off | 11:25 |
| oneswig | b1airo: can you take the reins? Got to head out now | 11:26 |
| b1airo | oh, well in that case it's a fine idea :-P. i guess that means it's not a prod deployment that you're trying to fix though? | 11:26 |
| b1airo | sure oneswig | 11:26 |
| oneswig | see you janders belmoreira b1airo, nice to briefly catch up | 11:26 |
| oneswig | b1airo: no, a bit of scientific experimentation | 11:26 |
| oneswig | cheers all | 11:27 |
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| janders | oneswig: thank you, till next time | 11:27 |
| b1airo | o/ | 11:27 |
| belmoreira | sorry, was away for few moments | 11:27 |
| b1airo | i'm assuming oneswig must have already looked at directory fragmentation/sharding across multiple MSD's, but perhaps worth mentioning anyway | 11:28 |
| b1airo | *MDS's | 11:28 |
| belmoreira | oneswig "ceph mds performance" I don't have great tips. Maybe Dan can help | 11:28 |
| belmoreira | oneswig "disaster recovery scenarios" in case of catastrophe... we always keep few physical nodes to bootstrap the cloud. But that would be very unlikely | 11:30 |
| b1airo | also, vul at unimelb might have some tips - they are running a HTC/HPC system against CephFS, so have probably seen some of these things | 11:31 |
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| b1airo | ok, i think we can probably call it quits for now. late here anyway | 11:32 |
| janders | agreed | 11:32 |
| janders | thanks guys! | 11:32 |
| janders | till next time | 11:32 |
| belmoreira | thanks | 11:33 |
| b1airo | cheers! | 11:34 |
| b1airo | #endmeeting | 11:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 3 11:34:06 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-07-03-11.04.html | 11:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-07-03-11.04.txt | 11:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-07-03-11.04.log.html | 11:34 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 3 16:01:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna | 16:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 16:01 |
| lseki | \o | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:02 |
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| xyang | Hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | ./ | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:02 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (;-_-)ノ | 16:02 |
| davidsha | Hey | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Give people one mor eminute to join. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, guessing that may be all that we get given that it is a holiday week in the US. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:04 | |
| _erlon_ | hey | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | We have Milestone 2 coming up in just a couple of weeks. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | July 22nd. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | That is our Spec and New Driver freeze. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | So, just a reminder in this case. | 16:06 |
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| rosmaita | ok | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Also, a reminder that we will start looking to see if the 3rd Party CIs are running Py3. | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | If not around MS2, right after and then patches to unsupport drivers that aren't in compliance will happen soon. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Any questions around those two announcements? | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:08 |
| eharney | well, the volume-rekey spec has been up for weeks with 0 feedback... is someone going to review it? :) | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Great, that leads into my next topic. :-) | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | #topic reviews for MS 2 | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews for MS 2 (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:09 | |
| jungleboyj | So, I went through the open spec reviews and listed the ones that I remembered being discussed at the PTG. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-meetings | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | A few of the specs are waiting on user feedback. If they are yours, please address. | 16:10 |
| rosmaita | ok | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: I can removed the Backend Capabilities one. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Did you mean to have a -2 on the Image Encryption one? | 16:11 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: I'll add few minor changes to my spec this week | 16:11 |
| eharney | until some questions got sorted out, yes | 16:11 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: btw, thanks for your changes! I appreciate it | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Doesn't look like luzi is here. I will ping her in the review. | 16:12 |
| eharney | they may have been answered already | 16:12 |
| eharney | i'm still fairly concerned about that whole feature, but i seem to be the only one, so... i dunno | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Looks like they have responded if you can take a look. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I will look at the Volume Rekey spec and catch up on the other ones in there. Would appreciate help from the rest of the team to do the same. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | There is also the Tengling driver to look at. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | They haven't responded since may though. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Did they respond to comments yet? | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Great if someone can go through and list more of the issues on that one, but probably not worth spending much time on, IMO. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | The chances of that being anywhere ready by the deadline are extremely low with the lack of repsonse there. | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Agreed. | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | So, if there is no more on the specs. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | That was all I had for today's agenda. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:19 |
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| jungleboyj | Is there anything else that people wanted to talk about today? | 16:20 |
| rosmaita | i have a quick question about a backport | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Okie dokie. | 16:21 |
| rosmaita | this is proposed for queens: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668353/ | 16:21 |
| rosmaita | it fixes a py37 tests problem | 16:21 |
| rosmaita | i guess it's harmless, but do we care about py37 that far back? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Ah, Didn't realize that was for py37 | 16:21 |
| clarkb | Not sure if you've seen my email to openstack-discuss about tempest jobs swapping but cinder-backup seems to be at least part of the problem | 16:22 |
| rosmaita | just asking because maybe there's a stable gate problem i'm not aware of | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | Not really. But it is harmless. | 16:22 |
| clarkb | It appears that there are plans to remove cinder-backup from default test jobs (which is probably fine) but you may want to invenstigate why cinder-backup might be using more memory than expected anyway | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | clarkb: Interesting. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Has anyone on the team looked into this? | 16:23 |
| rosmaita | not me ... clarkb do you mean this email: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/007493.html | 16:24 |
| clarkb | yes that one | 16:24 |
| rosmaita | (just to get it into the log) | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Thank you. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: You said geguileo is on vacation? | 16:25 |
| rosmaita | yes, though he is on a geguileo "vacation" (i.e., might show up randomly) | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Just thinking he was the one to touch backup most recently. :-) | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Would be interesting to see if the change in threading changed that. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | I wonder if each thread gets a full copy of everything loaded into memory or something? | 16:27 |
| eharney | the threading changes in backup have been there for a while... | 16:27 |
| clarkb | fwiw I'm not sure when this started | 16:27 |
| clarkb | its been a while since I had to run tempest locally | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | I could see backup causing a lot of caching into memory happening. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | But that shouldn't force things into swapping. | 16:27 |
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| clarkb | also the two different memory tracker tools we have disagree on memory useage | 16:28 |
| clarkb | so I think the big value may be virtual and the smaller number resident | 16:28 |
| clarkb | But that may indicate we use a lot of memory when cinder-backup is active then it goes virtual afterwards | 16:28 |
| clarkb | (not sure, needs investigating) | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:29 |
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| jungleboyj | Do we know that we are covering the backup tests in another test run? | 16:29 |
| e0ne | need to check it | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Oh, that is right, you have been working on backup as well. | 16:30 |
| e0ne | I suppose it's only issue with swift and maybe nfs drivers | 16:30 |
| e0ne | ceph driver should not have this issue but I didn't check | 16:30 |
| e0ne | #action e0ne to check memory usage by backup drivers | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: Thank you! | 16:31 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: np | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So ... Any other topics for this week? | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | nyet | 16:33 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:33 |
| eharney | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664430/ could use some review too | 16:34 |
| eharney | cinderclient shell version negotiation | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664430/ | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Yeah, that would be good to get reviewed. | 16:35 |
| eharney | it needs some tweaking in tests, but, making sure the direction is right would be useful | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Last call. | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. If no one has topics I will wrap things up so that you can all go review specs. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | Hope everyone in the US has a safe and happy 4th of July. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | Talk to everyone next week! | 16:38 |
| rosmaita | and enjoy the parades :P | 16:38 |
| whoami-rajat | Thanks jungleboyj | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:38 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (ه’́⌣’̀ه )／ | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 3 16:38:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-07-03-16.01.html | 16:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-07-03-16.01.txt | 16:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-07-03-16.01.log.html | 16:38 |
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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 3 21:00:01 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
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| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
| clayg | more like 🥳 time!!! | 21:01 |
| timburke | agenda's at | 21:02 |
| timburke | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| timburke | #topic py3 | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py3 (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:02 | |
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| timburke | we're soooo clooose! | 21:02 |
| kota_ | sounds awesome. | 21:02 |
| timburke | mattoliverau's started looking at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662546/ already | 21:03 |
| patchbot | patch 662546 - swift - py3: Be able to read and write non-ASCII headers - 5 patch sets | 21:03 |
| timburke | which is good, as it's the one i'm more nervous about | 21:03 |
| timburke | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653548/ can be looked at in parallel | 21:03 |
| patchbot | patch 653548 - swift - py3: add swift-dsvm-functional-py3 job - 14 patch sets | 21:03 |
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| timburke | between those two, you can get py2 tests running against py3 services | 21:04 |
| timburke | which we start gating on in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666942/ | 21:04 |
| patchbot | patch 666942 - swift - Run all func tests under py2 against services runn... - 1 patch set | 21:04 |
| alecuyer85 | o/ | 21:04 |
| timburke | i've already put py3 in my release notes - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668990/ - so let's get those last few landed! | 21:05 |
| patchbot | patch 668990 - swift - Authors/changelog for 2.22.0 - 1 patch set | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | hello! | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:05 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:05 |
| timburke | who can commit to reviewing patches? | 21:05 |
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| clayg | i review stuff sometimes | 21:07 |
| kota_ | 1 patch, I might be able to review in the next week | 21:07 |
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| timburke | clayg or kota_, want to take on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653548/ ? | 21:07 |
| patchbot | patch 653548 - swift - py3: add swift-dsvm-functional-py3 job - 14 patch sets | 21:07 |
| kota_ | ok | 21:08 |
| timburke | i'm guessing mattoliverau will keep working on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662546/ ;-) | 21:08 |
| patchbot | patch 662546 - swift - py3: Be able to read and write non-ASCII headers - 5 patch sets | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | yup | 21:08 |
| timburke | i think i'm ok with moving forward on the release after *just those two* | 21:09 |
| timburke | that's about it for py3 | 21:09 |
| timburke | #topic losf | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "losf (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:10 | |
| alecuyer85 | I wrote more tests, | 21:10 |
| alecuyer85 | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666378/ | 21:10 |
| patchbot | patch 666378 - swift (feature/losf) - Add tests for vfile.py - 3 patch sets | 21:10 |
| timburke | yay! | 21:10 |
| kota_ | alecuyer85: nice!!! | 21:10 |
| alecuyer85 | I think there are a few corner cases I want to handle or test better (a few comments about it in the test code) | 21:11 |
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| timburke | also, i think our dsvm job isn't happy on the branch any more :-( | 21:11 |
| timburke | i've been trying to sort out why | 21:11 |
| alecuyer85 | oh | 21:11 |
| kota_ | +1414, -373 :D | 21:11 |
| timburke | those RETRY_LIMITs seem pretty consistent | 21:12 |
| alecuyer85 | Ill look at it also | 21:12 |
| timburke | bumped into it while trying to get https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664424/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668007/ in | 21:12 |
| patchbot | patch 664424 - swift (feature/losf) - Get new unit tests running under py3 - 2 patch sets | 21:12 |
| patchbot | patch 668007 - swift (feature/losf) - Merge remote-tracking branch 'gerrit/master' into ... - 1 patch set | 21:12 |
| kota_ | i see. did we change something on dsvm? | 21:12 |
| kota_ | i see | 21:13 |
| timburke | i think it's something external to us, but i'm not sure what. that first patch was happy Jun 17, but failed Jun 26 | 21:13 |
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| kota_ | ok. let's clarify what causes the problem. | 21:14 |
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| timburke | http://logs.openstack.org/24/664424/2/gate/swift-dsvm-functional/5f4859d/controller/logs/screen-s-proxy.txt.gz seems to be the cause | 21:16 |
| kota_ | looks like distribution error on urllib3 which is from... requests module maybe? | 21:17 |
| timburke | but the version of requests (which i *think* is the only thing that would bring in urllib3) that gets installed doesn't have that version constraint: https://github.com/kennethreitz/requests/blob/v2.22.0/setup.py#L47 | 21:18 |
| kota_ | i saw the problem recently on requests... but not sure. | 21:18 |
| timburke | if anyone has ideas on how to further diagnose that, i'd love to hear them... but maybe after the meeting, in #openstack-swift | 21:19 |
| timburke | alecuyer85, is there anything else we should be aware of or helping with? | 21:20 |
| clarkb | https://opendev.org/openstack/requirements/src/branch/master/upper-constraints.txt#L190 ? | 21:20 |
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| alecuyer85 | timburke, taking a look at the patch would be great, see if that's going OK even if I know I still need a few changes | 21:20 |
| timburke | clarkb, yeah, but requests (https://opendev.org/openstack/requirements/src/branch/master/upper-constraints.txt#L249) should be happy with that | 21:21 |
| clarkb | timburke: ya looks like both versions are fine | 21:21 |
| clarkb | or rather they don't conflict with each other | 21:21 |
| timburke | right | 21:21 |
| timburke | alecuyer85, can do | 21:22 |
| timburke | #topic autosharding | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "autosharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:22 | |
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| timburke | mattoliverau, looks like you've been busy :-) | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | So last week was hackweek at SUSE, so I spent some time playing with a new implementation of auto sharding | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | It's still a WIP but have even written a rambly doc on it (and it's on the ideas page) | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/15yG9zOatwPyXCA3YLNLdNIue9qDR4wLyMPIbypcbALc/edit?usp=sharing | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | Just wanted to bring it to peoples attention. | 21:24 |
| mattoliverau | If your interested take a look at the current iplementation. It's just a first parse at the version + index 0 attempt | 21:24 |
| alecuyer85 | nice doc! thanks | 21:24 |
| mattoliverau | ta | 21:24 |
| mattoliverau | There is a possible edge case ( 1of many I'm sure) I talk about at the end, and possible ways to eliviate it. | 21:25 |
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| mattoliverau | not 100% it is a problem, that just comes from a white board session I had had trying to brain storm issues. | 21:26 |
| mattoliverau | I need to go and refamilarise myself with the sharding replication changes to really confirm, or better make a probe test :) | 21:26 |
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| mattoliverau | Anyway, if your interest take a look. I made some interesting asumptions and moves in the patch, which may or may not be right (like adding an ELECT verb to the container-server so they can vote and keep the code simple | 21:27 |
| mattoliverau | That's all I got for now :) | 21:28 |
| timburke | i like new verbs for new behaviors | 21:28 |
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| timburke | but then, you may have noticed that from https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659162/ ;-) | 21:28 |
| patchbot | patch 659162 - swift - Add operator tool to async-delete some or all obje... (MERGED) - 7 patch sets | 21:28 |
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| mattoliverau | I did ;) | 21:29 |
| timburke | i'll at least read through the doc by next meeting, try to form some opinions | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | ta, can't ask for any more then that ;) | 21:30 |
| timburke | mattoliverau, anything else we should know or do? | 21:30 |
| mattoliverau | nope, the doc points to the bottom of the patch set (currently of 2 patches) | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | if it interests you in reviewing.. but also feel free to leave comments in the doc. | 21:31 |
| timburke | all right | 21:32 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:32 |
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| timburke | anything else to bring up? | 21:32 |
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| timburke | so has anyone else ever seen container replicator lockups since we did sharding? | 21:34 |
| timburke | i noticed a missing timeout that prompted https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668963/ last night/this morning... | 21:34 |
| patchbot | patch 668963 - swift - container-replicator: Add a timeout for get_shard_... - 1 patch set | 21:34 |
| timburke | huh. just us, i guess... seems suspicious :-/ | 21:37 |
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| timburke | how does everyone feel about the py3 support? do we think this is going to go well, or terribly, or somewhere in between? | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | in between :P | 21:38 |
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| alecuyer85 | +1 :) | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | but experimental label for a release would make be feel better. | 21:39 |
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| kota_ | going to go well, maybe? | 21:39 |
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| timburke | i hope it genuinely results in better outcomes :-) i kinda worry that people will see experimental, not really use it yet, and then we won't have the extra testing we wanted | 21:40 |
| kota_ | the py3 gate prevent me to push incompatible patch. it may make slow down but the compatibility will be required anyway? | 21:40 |
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| timburke | yeah, then there's that aspect. and it's going to be a bit until we can drop py2 | 21:41 |
| clayg | Drop it!!! | 21:42 |
| timburke | clayg, not *yet*! we have to *at least* have py3 support first! | 21:42 |
| mattoliverau | well I hope when we have it running we all could run in SAIO or at least 1 SAIO and iron out any obivous shortcomings :) | 21:42 |
| clayg | 😂 | 21:42 |
| alecuyer85 | I think clayg wanted to use tauthon | 21:42 |
| clayg | Or that yes. | 21:43 |
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| clayg | This is fine. When we merge LOSF we’ll have 3 languages. | 21:43 |
| alecuyer85 | I think we can switch some test clusters to use py3 and hopefully catch some things (if there is anything to catch!) | 21:43 |
| timburke | hmm... i should look at dropping the devstack exclusion to make sure swift runs on py2 even when everything else is on py3... | 21:44 |
| timburke | alecuyer85, that'll be great! thanks | 21:44 |
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| clayg | I think we’re going to have a pretty big lift to get py3 going. We might do it on NEW distros only e.g. rhel8 | 21:44 |
| timburke | i'm sure there's some bugs lurking in the non-client-path | 21:45 |
| clayg | But we’ll probably be importing Swift code in py3 as ecosystem stuff starts to add more py3 support. I’ll probably default vsaio to py3 | 21:46 |
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| clayg | This’ll be great. | 21:46 |
| timburke | 👍 | 21:46 |
| kota_ | +1 | 21:46 |
| timburke | all right, does anyone have anything else to bring up? | 21:47 |
| timburke | i think i'm going to call it then | 21:48 |
| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:48 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 3 21:48:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-07-03-21.00.html | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-07-03-21.00.txt | 21:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-07-03-21.00.log.html | 21:48 |
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