Tuesday, 2019-08-13

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tpatil94Anyone interested to join Masakari meeting? It seems  Sampath is unavailable so I will chair today’s meeting if anyone is interested to join.04:04
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tpatil94Ok, let’s call off today’s Masakari meeting as no one is available.04:08
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shadiakikiThe link to the wiki page in this channel description needs to have the trailing slash dropped10:16
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slaweq#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 13 14:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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slaweqhi everybody14:00
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slaweq#topic Announcements14:01
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slaweqwe have couple of annoncements for today14:02
slaweqNext milestone is T-3, week of September 914:02
slaweqaccording to the same schedule, second annoncement14:03
slaweqPTL self nominations are in week of August 26th - if someone considers nominating him self, please be aware of this14:03
mlavalleor herself14:03
mlavallelet's be inclusive14:03
slaweqright mlavalle14:04
rubasovlate o/14:04
slaweqI should say "him/her self" :)14:04
bcafarelthemselves? everyone in14:04
slaweqbcafarel++ :)14:04
slaweqok, next one14:04
slaweqWe have new member of our core team - welcome on board ralonsoh!14:05
mlavallehe is on PTO, isn't he?14:05
slaweqyes, he is14:05
slaweqfirst week as core and he is off :P14:05
bcafarellazy cores :)14:06
bcafarelstill congratulations are in order, he will quickly catch up next week14:06
slaweqok, lets move on14:06
slaweqnext one14:06
slaweqPoll for U release name is now open: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008432.html14:07
slaweqlets vote for Your favorite U name proposal :)14:07
slaweqI voted already14:07
slaweqnext one14:08
slaweqShanghai PTG planning etherpad14:08
slaweqplease feel free to propose topics. We don't have deadline for this other than the PTG itself14:08
slaweqand the last one, as a reminder14:09
slaweqTrain PTG summary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006408.html14:09
slaweqok, that's all annoncements from me for today14:09
slaweqanyone have anything else to announce?14:09
mlavallenot me14:09
slaweqok, so lets move on14:10
slaweq#topic Blueprints14:10
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slaweqTrain-3 blueprints: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/train-314:10
slaweqany updates?14:10
rubasovhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/improve-extraroute-api has many changes around in several repos14:11
rubasovthis topic collects them all: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:extraroute14:12
rubasovthe zuul -1s are because the not yet released neutron-lib dependency, but otherwise they should be passing14:13
slaweqneutron-lib dependency is this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670849/ right?14:13
rubasovslaweq: exactly14:13
mlavalleno, that's the api-ref14:13
mlavalleisn't it?14:14
slaweqmlavalle: api-def14:14
rubasovapi-def and api-ref in one change :-)14:14
slaweqand it also adds api extension definition to neutron-lib14:14
mlavalleyeah, I see it now14:14
mlavalleok, I'll review it today14:14
amotokithanks for the update rubasov. I need to check it again soon.14:14
slaweqso, when this will be merged we should probably think about new neutron-lib release to not block You with other patches, right rubasov?14:15
rubasovslaweq, mlavalle, amotoki: thank you14:15
amotokirubasov: minor nit: how about using the topic name based on the bp? bp/improve-extraroute-api14:15
amotokibut you already have various patches so it is  up to you14:15
rubasovslaweq: that would help, yes14:15
rubasovamotoki: there's multiple blueprints (neutron and heat)14:15
rubasovamotoki: but I wanted to keep all under a common name14:15
amotokirubasov: got it :)14:15
slaweqrubasov: ok14:16
slaweqmlavalle: amotoki: lets keep it in mind and remember about new release of neutron-lib for rubasov :)14:16
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slaweqany other updates about blueprints?14:17
slaweqok, so lets move on14:19
slaweq#topic Community Goals14:19
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slaweqnjohnston is on PTO still14:19
slaweqbut I have some short update about py314:20
slaweqEtherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_python3_status14:20
slaweqamotoki finished migration for python-neutronclient - thx amotoki14:20
bcafarelnice, another down in the list14:20
slaweqso we are still missing only 3 projects: networking-bagpipe, networking-midonet and networking-odl14:21
slaweqI know that lajoskatona is working on networking-odl14:21
rubasovI think he is, but this week he's on PTO too14:21
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slaweqaccording to "Support IPv6-Only Deployments" goal14:22
slaweqin neutron we are good now, as gmann's patch for neutron is merged - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671899/14:23
slaweqAccording to my email http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/008084.html we should also have similar jobs proposed for some stadium projects14:23
slaweqgmann: sent already patches for networking-ovn and networking-odl14:23
amotokithey are covered in the update mail http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008280.html14:24
slaweqwith midonet it may be hard as currently I think there is no any tempest job running in their gate14:25
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slaweqfor neutron-dynamic-routing tidwellr is still working on moving those jobs (and tests) to neutron-tempest-plugin so we would than have zuulv3 job14:25
slaweqand I will also try to ping tmorin about networking-bagpipe to take a look14:26
slaweqthat's basically all from my side about this goal14:26
slaweqamotoki any updates about pdf documentation?14:26
amotokino update this week.14:27
amotokithere seems no active effort aorund the community recently.14:27
slaweqok, so let's move on to the next topic14:27
slaweq#topic Bugs14:27
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slaweqamotoki: was our bug deputy last week14:28
slaweqhe sent summary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008436.html14:28
slaweqlooks like it was quite week14:28
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amotokione thing I would like to ask is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/183404514:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1834045 in neutron (Ubuntu) "Live-migration double binding doesn't work with OVN" [Undecided,New]14:29
amotokimlavalle may be most familiar with it. is there any comment on this?14:29
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gmannslaweq: amotoki thanks. you almost covered the ipv6 update. moving jobs to zuulv3 will be super helpful for me on those projects. i will also keep eyes on that.14:30
slaweqgmann: sure, I will for sure ping You if we will have something new moved to zuulv3 :)14:30
slaweqgmann: and thx for working on this14:31
slaweqmlavalle: what You wanted to ask about it?14:31
slaweqI can ping mjozefcz (reported of this bug) to join here if You want14:31
mlavalleamotoki wants to ask14:31
amotokinetwokring-ovn already has a workaround and I am not sure we need more work in neutron side or not.14:31
slaweqah, sorry :)14:32
mlavallemhhh, I will revisit this bug this week14:32
slaweqso IIUC this bug than there is some work in neutron required for it14:32
mlavalleand will work on it if it is needed14:33
slaweqbasically now nova is waiting for info that port is UP on host and nova things that this is destination host already14:33
slaweqbut in fact when You use ML2/OVS it is notification from src host still14:33
slaweqand than nova starts migration of vm14:33
slaweqas networking-ovn have a b it different workflow it didn't work for them14:34
slaweqso IMO it now works "by accident" in ML2/OVS case14:34
slaweqbut I may missunderstood something there14:34
mlavalleso if work is needed, we may need to coordinate with Nova14:35
mlavallewe don't want to break them14:35
slaweqThis is potentially good topic for nova-neutron session on PTG14:35
slaweqmlavalle: yes, I agree14:35
slaweqmjozefcz will be in Shanghai so he can explain it in details as he spent quite long time on debugging this issue14:35
slaweqI don't think it's very urgent for now as this works fine for ML2/OVS and nova14:36
mlavallein the meantime, I'll assign the Neutron bug to me14:36
slaweqand networking-ovn also workarounded it for now14:36
slaweqthat's at least my opinion about this bug14:36
amotokiyeah it looks not urgent. I just noticed it because it was assigned to 'neutron' last week.14:36
amotokiit was originally assigned to 'neutron (ubuntu)' only.14:37
mlavallegave it priority mediem14:38
slaweqthx mlavalle14:38
slaweqafter this meeting I will add it to Shanghai etherpad to not forget about it :)14:38
slaweqok, any other bugs You want to discuss today?14:39
slaweqI take it as no :)14:40
slaweqso let's move on14:40
slaweq#topic neutron-lib14:40
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slaweqboden is offline still probably14:40
slaweqanything You want to talk about related to neutron-lib?14:41
mlavallejust to leave in the record that after merging rubasov's patch, we need a release14:41
mlavallethis is the patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670849/14:42
rubasovthanks again14:42
bcafareljust a small one for me, if someone has stable +2 for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672165/ (thanks mlavalle for the first one)14:42
slaweqbcafarel: thx for mentioning it14:42
mlavalleyes, last week we agreed to this14:43
slaweqI just wanted to say that we have some patches proposed to stable branches: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bug/1818943+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:43
slaweqactually for stein only in neutron-lib14:43
slaweqso we should probably also release new stein version after this patch will be merged14:43
slaweqas I don't think we will have many other patches to this branch soon14:43
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bcafarelyes neutron-lib backports are rare (which is a good thing)14:44
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slaweqok, anything else about neutron-lib?14:46
slaweqI guess no, so we can move on to the last topic for today14:47
slaweq#topic On-demand agenda14:47
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slaweqthere is nothing new on agenda for today's on-demand topic14:47
slaweqbut maybe someone wants to talk about anything related to neutron?14:48
bcafarelnot me14:49
slaweqif not, I have only one last-minute short announcement14:49
slaweqI was just asked by our newest core if I can inform You that today's QoS meeting will be cancelled14:49
slaweqso I'm saying that here :)14:49
slaweqI also sent email few minutes ago14:50
mlavallethanks for the update14:50
slaweqok, that all from my side14:50
slaweqthx for attending the meeting and see You in couple of weeks as next week I'm on PTO \o/14:50
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_ci16:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 13 16:01:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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bcafarelhey again16:02
mlavallehey how are you16:03
mlavallemost likely, it will you and me today16:03
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mlavalleralonsoh is on pto and slaweq has something personal to do16:03
mlavalleso let's get going16:03
bcafarelsounds good16:04
mlavalleso please open the grafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:04
mlavalle#topic Actions from previous meetings16:05
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mlavallemlavalle will continue debugging https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/183844916:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1838449 in neutron "Router migrations failing in the gate" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)16:05
mlavallewhich I did16:05
mlavallemy findings are:16:06
mlavalle1) Failure occurs becuase, when senting the router to admin_state_up to false, the distributed router interface port status is never set to DOWN16:07
mlavalle2) That in turn is caused because on of the L3 agents involved takes 5 minutes to process the router update, so the port is not removed from the corrsponding node (controller) fast enough16:08
* mlavalle chacking how long it takes for the test to timeout16:08
bcafareldigging through my recent mails but was there a recent stable backport related to 1? it sounds familiar to me16:09
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bcafareloh nevermind it was a fix for ports already stuck in DOWN ( https://review.opendev.org/#/c/606827/ )16:10
mlavalleyeah, I can see that the test timeouts in 300 seconds (5 minutes): https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/99684ac97eb1ad1e0be6fd824ba00ee707421e0f/neutron_tempest_plugin/scenario/test_migration.py#L8116:10
mlavalleso I am going to investigate why the l3 agent takes so long in one of the nodes (controller). The port is removed very quickly in the other node (compute1)16:12
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mlavalleso action is digging why L3 agent might take so long to update a router update16:12
mlavalle#action mlavalle will continue debugging https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1838449. specifically, why l3 agent is taking so long in one of the nodes to process a router update16:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1838449 in neutron "Router migrations failing in the gate" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)16:13
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mlavalle#topic Stadium projects16:13
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bcafarelI think most topics (and any progress in this quiet week) were already covered in team meeting16:15
mlavallepyhton3 migration Stadium projects etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_python3_status16:15
mlavalleyeah, just mentioning the etherpad16:15
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mlavallelajoskatona made progress with networking-odl16:16
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mlavalletempest-plugins migrations Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_move_to_tempest_plugin_repo16:16
* mlavalle hoping to make progress with vpnaas this wekk16:17
mlavalleany other updates on other tempest-plugins16:17
bcafarelhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/643668/ looks good with slaweq's latest change, but I did not have time to review yet16:18
bcafarelthat one will get fwaas in the completed section too16:18
mlavalleyeah, and I will probably cheat and see if that applies to what I'm doing on the vpnaas side16:19
mlavalleok, let's move on16:20
mlavalle#topic Grafana16:20
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mlavalleI don't see much to worry about. the gate and check queues seem to be having a summer vacation as well. They might be in the South of France going to the beach16:22
mlavalleor Ibiza, maybe16:23
bcafarela warmer place at least :)16:24
bcafarelgrenade jobs took their turn on a grumpy day apparently, but that was short16:24
mlavalleok, moving on16:25
mlavalle#topic Tempest/Scenario16:25
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mlavalleneutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-openvswitch - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670738/ - merged already16:25
mlavallewe added a neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-openvswitch job16:26
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mlavalleneutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-openvswitch-iptables-hybrid https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674274/16:27
mlavallescenario tests with openvswitch agent and16:28
mlavalleiptables_hybrid firewall driver.16:28
bcafarelnice, I know a few users that will like having this one around!16:28
mlavalleand we updated the docs with their description: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674272/2/doc/source/contributor/testing/ci_scenario_jobs.rst16:29
mlavalleanything else on this topic?16:29
bcafareljust seeing the grafana, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1837552 is still valid16:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1837552 in neutron "neutron-tempest-with-uwsgi job finish with timeout very often" [Medium,Confirmed]16:31
bcafarelI wanted to take a look at this one this week, but it will probably have to wait for next week (public holiday on Thursday)16:31
mlavallewhat's the ocassion?16:32
mlavalle#topic Periodic16:33
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bcafareljust it being the middle of August I guess :)16:33
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mlavalleslaweq left a note in the etherpad pointing to the logs: Logs from jobs are on: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/opendev.org/openstack/neutron/master/16:33
mlavalleI don't think there are any action itmers here16:34
mlavalle#topic On demand agenda16:34
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mlavalleanything else we should discuss today?16:34
bcafarelnone from me, recent stable jobs had some failures, but not out of the ordinary rate16:35
mlavallethanks for attending16:35
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bcafarelnext weeks we will have more folks :)16:35
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ianwinfra meeting if anyone around19:01
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ianw#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 13 19:01:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
ianw#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
ianw#topic Announcements19:02
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* mordred waves at ianw19:02
ianwno clarkb, no fungi today, at least19:02
ianw#topic Actions from last meeting19:02
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ianw#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-08-06-19.01.html Minutes from last meeting19:03
ianwonly one action item for clarkb to collect ssh logs from gitea containers19:03
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ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674930/19:03
ianwi believe that is done19:03
ianw#topic Priority Efforts19:04
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ianw#topic Storyboard19:04
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ianwi think it is probable that anyone likely to give useful updates here is otherwise engaged19:05
corvusi'll buy that19:05
ianw#topic Update config management19:06
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ianwnot sure there's anything particular here; we have some general topics with some cross over19:06
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ianw#topic Zuul as CD engine19:07
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ianwagain, if anyone has something the floor is open, i don't think think there's been particular focus on this, this week19:08
corvusi'm unaware of any current work19:09
ianw#topic OpenDev19:09
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ianwslightly related; the testinfra maintainer (which we use for a lot of our verification of role actions during CI jobs) has expressed interest in getting more people onboard19:10
ianwhe is looking at moving under various ansible-ish or python-qa organisations on github19:11
ianwi've tried to do a bit of a hard sell for opendev as a home, we'll see ... anyway he has added a few more maintainers to the existing project too19:11
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ianwwe'll see19:12
corvusianw: thanks, that'd be cool. and even if he doesn't bite, it'd be nice to know why not19:12
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ianw#topic General topics19:12
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ianw#topic Trusty ugprade process19:13
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ianwi think the most exciting thing that falls under this is the logs work19:13
ianw#link http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-announce/2019-July/000046.html deprecation notice19:13
corvusoh *that's* why it's under this topic, i was wondering :)19:13
corvusi get it now.  it's "retire the trusty logs server" :)19:13
ianwmost would have noticed the new links being provided in results to zuul overview pages19:14
corvusi haven't heard of any issues with that.  it's been 24h, so i suspect we won't roll back.  which i think means we can make the switch to swift itself any time.19:14
corvuswe can do that today if we want.19:15
ianwi think it's looking great, thanks corvus19:15
corvus(or first thing tomorrow)19:15
ianwyeah, probably best to wait until a few more eyes than just me are on it :)19:15
corvushow about i propose the change, and we'll see what the +2s look like :)19:16
mordredcorvus: yeah - I think making the swift switch seems safe19:16
mordredcorvus: I'm still having the chrome rendering issue, which is going to anger me enough one of these days to figure out what's happening19:17
mordredbut I don't think it's actionable enough to hold up anything - and I can always switch to log tabs if needed19:17
* mordred looks forward to an insane amount of console.log statements19:18
ianwmordred: what's the short version of the rendering issue?19:18
corvusmordred: is it possible to run other browsers on your platform?19:18
mordredcorvus: I do not know the answer to taht question - haven't tried - it's worth a shot19:18
ianw(just so if anyone reports it i can say "we know" :)19:18
corvus(it would be interesting to see if chromium or even ff has the same issue)19:18
mordredianw: for tasks with LONG output, chrome draws the box the right size for the content length, but stops drawing the text part way through19:19
mordredno error messages in console log19:19
mordredfurther tasks exist properly19:19
corvusand i am unable to reproduce that with chromium on bionic19:19
mordredI expect it's going to be super weird19:19
mordredsince I imagine the number of openstack devs running on chromebooks as their primary platform is probably pretty low ... I think it's safe to consider me an outlier for the moment19:20
corvusmordred: yes, that is the reason i consider you an outlier  :)19:20
ianwok; yeah i run pretty recent firefox from fedora 30 and haven't noticed anything, but will keep an eye19:20
mordredcorvus: I'm sure it's not the only reason19:20
corvusit's today's reason19:21
mordredcorvus: I'm sure it's not today's only reason :)19:21
ianwspeaking of logs19:22
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675226/ reduce oscwrap output in devstack19:22
ianwi bet there's more that could be done, that cuts a thousand or so lines19:22
ianwanyway, with logs more discoverable maybe people will work to make them more readable too19:23
ianwso we will watch for swift logs; then we can think more about the logs.o.o host i guess.  i'll be happy to help there, but after a week or two of the new situation bedding in19:24
ianw#topic AFS mirroring status19:24
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ianwi just wanted to call out the buster mirror issues19:25
ianwfungi is working on this per19:25
ianw#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2019-08-12.log.html#t2019-08-12T11:00:5719:25
corvuswe're hoping to improve the mirror roles based on that19:26
corvus#link https://review.opendev.org/675703 mirror role19:26
corvusbut that's going to be the basis for the new replacement role19:26
corvusit's not clear to me whether to solve the immediate issue we should roll forward with that, or we need to also do some kind of hack for the current role19:27
corvusi think as long as we don't need the new feature yesterday, we can roll forward.  writing the replacement won't be that hard.  i just want to get more feedback on it, to increase the chances we've covered all the cases we're likely to hit19:27
corvus(so we don't have to do a third version)19:28
ianwyeah, i seemed that making a blank buster-updates repo wasn't going to work iirc19:29
ianwwhich leaves "client side", as it not having it there in the first place19:29
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corvusalso, we should probably take the changes fungi is proposing to that role and think about whether we need any similar changes for the rpm distros19:29
corvusit's much more thought out than my initial "copy what we already have" attempt19:30
ianwyeah, i can't remember anything analogous we've worked around for rpm19:32
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ianwanyway, i think this has a path forward, if anyone was wondering what's going on19:33
ianw#topic new backup server19:33
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ianwi just wanted to call out that i've worked out the kinks with the vexxhost backup server and it all seems to be working19:33
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ianwso the last step is to turn it all on with19:34
ianw#link  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/67553719:34
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ianwi'd like some feedback there, because we discussed that we don't want the server in the regular ansible runs, and there are few ways we could do that19:34
ianwi feel like if it's in emergency it's way to easy to forget19:35
ianwthe only host using it right now is review-dev, but i will migrate other hosts19:36
ianwthen i think i'll start a new backup02 in rax.ord and have that as a secondary host.  once that's working, we can retire the original backup host (but keep it's volumes attached to the new server)19:37
ianw#topic PTG planning19:38
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ianw#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenDev-Shanghai-PTG-201919:38
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ianwi'm sure clarkb will have more on this next time, but for now, i'm sure if anyone wants to dump something there it will be addressed19:39
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ianw#topic Open Discussion19:40
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ianwi've been trying to get a bit more dib functional testing on arm64 working, to make sure that's staying up to date19:41
ianwseen a couple of node allocation failures which might be a slow cloud or maybe something else, will look into a little today19:41
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676120/ add ubuntu-ports to mirror script19:42
ianwwould help19:42
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ianwok, i think that's about it then19:44
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