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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 31 14:00:19 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
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| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
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| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| efried | #topic Last meeting | 14:03 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-24-21.00.html | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| efried | was a short one, just me & mriedem, with a guest appearance by smcginnis. News from that encounter forthcoming. | 14:03 |
| efried | #topic Release News | 14:04 |
| efried | #link Nova Ussuri schedule https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ussuri_Release_Schedule | 14:04 |
| efried | #link Queens is em https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692142/ | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| efried | mriedem: anything to note on queens em? | 14:04 |
| mriedem | it's done | 14:04 |
| mriedem | there are open +2ed changes so we're still merging code, | 14:05 |
| mriedem | but it won't be released | 14:05 |
| efried | thanks | 14:05 |
| efried | #topic Summit/PTG Planning | 14:05 |
| efried | #link PTG etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-shanghai-ptg | 14:05 |
| efried | #link Do PTG stuff virtually if appropriate http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/thread.html#10363 | 14:05 |
| efried | #link If you need cross-project sessions, put 'em on there http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/thread.html#10422 | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit/PTG Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
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| efried | neither of you will be in Shanghai? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | i expect the barrage of product manager requirements getting translated to the cores that are there will be fun for them | 14:06 |
| efried | "product manager"? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i suspect there will be a lot of non-developer people in the ptg rooms | 14:06 |
| mriedem | e.g. "we have a customer that wants nova to make ice cream on demand and in a cron, should we write a spec?" | 14:07 |
| efried | that might not be a terrible thing to have actual operators voicing requirements rather than the usual dev echo chamber of what we think the world needs. | 14:07 |
| mriedem | i'm not talking about operators | 14:07 |
| dansmith | hah | 14:07 |
| efried | point taken. | 14:08 |
| efried | Making ice cream would be cool | 14:08 |
| efried | moving on. | 14:08 |
| efried | #topic Stable branch status | 14:08 |
| efried | #link stable/train: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/train | 14:08 |
| efried | #link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein | 14:08 |
| efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky | 14:08 |
| efried | #link stable/queens: (will be removed) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i should tell stephen to friend up with fred li and he can yell at people that are off track | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
| efried | mriedem: okay to stop tracking queens there --^ or should we keep watching until some number of the pending patches merge? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | stop tracking it here | 14:09 |
| efried | ack | 14:09 |
| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:09 |
| efried | No Critical bugs | 14:09 |
| efried | #link 87 new untriaged bugs (+0 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:09 |
| efried | #link 8 untagged untriaged bugs (-1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| efried | #topic Gate status | 14:10 |
| efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:10 |
| efried | #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:10 | |
| efried | ahem, ^ seems dead again | 14:10 |
| mriedem | the gate is f'ed | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i've been rechecking the same changes for probably half a week | 14:10 |
| dansmith | yeah, really bad | 14:10 |
| efried | and it's not even feature freeze! | 14:11 |
| mriedem | if you want some dumps, | 14:11 |
| artom | mriedem, that tempst c-bak change is cursed | 14:11 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1763070 is spiked again for some unknown reason | 14:11 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1844929 is a huge fail rate with no end in sight | 14:11 |
| mriedem | s/end/fix/ | 14:11 |
| mriedem | and there are a whole bunch of random cirros guest setup failures that cause ssh to fail | 14:11 |
| mriedem | like http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1848078 | 14:11 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1808010 | 14:12 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1737039 | 14:12 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1840355 | 14:12 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1849857 | 14:12 |
| mriedem | the cirros guests are basically garbage right now | 14:12 |
| mriedem | i don't know hy | 14:12 |
| mriedem | *why | 14:12 |
| mriedem | probably time for me or clarkb to write up a state of the gate email to the ML, i can do that after the meeting to raise the issue | 14:13 |
| efried | thanks | 14:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | i guess we should also hold off on recheck things that are not related to fixign the gate for a bit | 14:14 |
| artom | g8 st8 | 14:14 |
| mriedem | if we do nothing will ever merge | 14:14 |
| mriedem | no one is working on fixing gate bugs | 14:14 |
| mriedem | disabling ssh in tempest api tests would get things flowing but that's not a good answer | 14:14 |
| efried | yeah; I haven't seen a huge spike in rechecks lately for stuff I've been watching. More than usual, maybe a bit, but not more fails than successes like we had during ff. | 14:14 |
| dansmith | feels like more fails than successes to me | 14:15 |
| dansmith | maybe my patches are cursed | 14:15 |
| dansmith | but it feels like it's almost at standstill | 14:15 |
| mriedem | same | 14:16 |
| sean-k-mooney | are most of the failure ssh/network related | 14:16 |
| dansmith | no, | 14:16 |
| dansmith | there are a lot that are kinda infra related | 14:16 |
| mriedem | well, the cells db one is...idk | 14:16 |
| dansmith | like the grenade database setup one, devstack timeouts waiting for something to happen | 14:16 |
| dansmith | yum client mirrors is at the top | 14:16 |
| mriedem | there are some known infra ones that get auto-rechecked by zuul i think | 14:17 |
| efried | 7 nova patches merged overnight. I think I had rechecked maybe three of them? | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | clarkb would know details on that | 14:17 |
| dansmith | pip fail | 14:17 |
| mriedem | for the stuff i'm rechecking, it's not infra failures | 14:17 |
| mriedem | it's grenade and guest/ssh fails | 14:17 |
| dansmith | well, I'm lumping the grenade db setup thing in as infra | 14:17 |
| dansmith | i.e. not a tempest test that is failing | 14:18 |
| dansmith | anyway | 14:18 |
| mriedem | well, it is triggered by a tempest smoke run after upgrade | 14:18 |
| mriedem | n-sch times out | 14:18 |
| mriedem | but yeah it's not really a code bug | 14:18 |
| mriedem | something f'ed up in mysql | 14:18 |
| dansmith | right, it seems to be setup | 14:18 |
| dansmith | that's my point | 14:18 |
| mriedem | it also just randomly showed up and i don't know how to account for it | 14:19 |
| mriedem | or debug it | 14:19 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:19 |
| mriedem | we likely need zzzeek | 14:19 |
| mriedem | or leakypipes! | 14:19 |
| dansmith | efried: moving on? | 14:20 |
| efried | Yah. Aforementioned action hopefully moves the ball. lmk if there's anything I can do to help. | 14:20 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 14:21 |
| efried | any? | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:21 | |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:21 |
| efried | Placement (cdent/tetsuro) | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:21 | |
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| efried | things have been pretty quiet here. If you have something to talk about, the | 14:22 |
| efried | #link placement ptg etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-shanghai-ptg | 14:22 |
| efried | would be a good place to put it. | 14:22 |
| efried | API (gmann) | 14:22 |
| efried | I think other than policy defaults stuff, nothing much here? | 14:23 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:23 |
| efried | any? | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:23 | |
| efried | #topic Review status page | 14:24 |
| efried | #link http://status.openstack.org/reviews/#nova | 14:24 |
| efried | Count: 464 (+5); Top score: 2182 (+52) | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review status page (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:24 | |
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| efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:24 | |
| efried | Bueller? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | nada | 14:24 |
| mriedem | i abandoned a bunch of old reviews yesterday | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | doesn't put a dent in the open review | 14:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | i wanted to hilight one bluepirnt that was just filed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/config-tsc-freq | 14:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | basicaly i just wanted to know if people think this needs a spec of not | 14:25 |
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| efried | what's the scope of the code change? Sounds small? | 14:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | add a new flavor extraspec | 14:26 |
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| sean-k-mooney | and a minor libvirt dirver update | 14:26 |
| sean-k-mooney | thats about it | 14:26 |
| mriedem | eandersson might be interested in that | 14:27 |
| efried | I think if you spell out the extra spec in the bp it should be able to go specless. | 14:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | similar in scope the the pmu change i did last cycle | 14:27 |
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| sean-k-mooney | ya i can work to flesh it out in the blueprint | 14:27 |
| mriedem | i think it's likely ok specless | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | i think we already have a spec for hpet timer stuff | 14:28 |
| mriedem | just build on that | 14:28 |
| sean-k-mooney | ok it was brought up by umbSublime on irc last week so i just want to help them along | 14:28 |
| mriedem | hw_time_hpet image property, not extra spec | 14:28 |
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| efried | anything else? | 14:29 |
| efried | Happy halloween everyone. | 14:29 |
| efried | Well, everyone with pagan still in their heart. | 14:29 |
| efried | o/ | 14:29 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 31 14:29:24 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-31-14.00.html | 14:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-31-14.00.txt | 14:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-10-31-14.00.log.html | 14:29 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 31 15:01:06 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
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| fungi | other than maybe reiterating the stuff which has landed on the security ml in the past week, i don't have much | 15:06 |
| fungi | there were a few reports which got switched to public, two hardening opportunities and one which is getting an ossn for an insecure feature which will be deprecated | 15:06 |
| fungi | i'm also getting ready to start my lengthy journey to shanghai shortly | 15:07 |
| fungi | so not really around at the moment | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | fungi: ok | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | I just had a couple items about canceling (most) of the meetings in Nov possibly | 15:09 |
| fungi | yeah, makes sense | 15:10 |
| fungi | i won't be available next week, at a minimum | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | yeah, and I'll be out the 21st for kubecon | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | plus the 28th is thanksgiving | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | So, we can plan on the 14th being the only meeting in Nov | 15:11 |
| fungi | that seems sufficient | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | (you can of course host one on the 21st if needed) | 15:11 |
| fungi | 14th should be a good opportunity to recap things which happened in shanghai | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | I will make a newsletter about all this | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | yes | 15:12 |
| fungi | thanks! | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi, have a good trip! | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 31 15:12:43 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-10-31-15.01.html | 15:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-10-31-15.01.txt | 15:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-10-31-15.01.log.html | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | safe travels | 15:12 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:13 |
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