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mhen#startmeeting image_encryption13:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 25 13:00:35 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mhen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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mhen#topic Roll Call13:00
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redroboto\13:01
redrobot\o13:01
mhenredrobot, hey :)13:02
mhenso, I'm stepping in for Luzi today due to her being on a business trip13:04
moguimaro/13:05
mhenhi moguimar13:05
moguimarhi13:05
mhen#topic Summit Roundup13:06
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mhenI haven't been able to, but Luzi attended the summit13:06
fungii even got to talk to her about nova specs for a few minutes13:08
mhenshe had a talk with someone from the Nova team (I don't have all the details sorry), and turned out Nova would prefer having ephemeral storage encryption using native LUKS first, before implementing image encryption13:08
fungido they already have work in progress toward ephemeral disk encryption?13:09
mhenafaik, they don't13:10
mhenbut don't quote me on that13:10
fungiyeah, i know you're getting that info second-hand13:10
mhenthey do have ephemeral disk encryption for LVM backend but that's not helpful for productive setups13:10
mheneven then that's not native LUKS at all13:11
mhenin contrast to Cinder13:11
fungijust wondering if it was a case of prioritizing against other in-progress encryption work, or that they felt image encryption didn't make sense until ephemeral disks are encrypted?13:11
mhenthe latter13:11
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fungii would be interested to hear more of the logic there. it sounds like two tangentially-related features to me, so i have a hard time believing they would block work which has volunteers waiting for something nobody is working on13:12
mhenwe are currently considering primarily pushing the work forward for Glance and Cinder for now, since we can't stem any additional workload currently (i.e. implementing native LUKS)13:13
fungiunderstandably13:13
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mhenso we could provide the Glance specification with a library base implementation and Cinder as its first 'consumer' implementation13:15
fungiand that covers the case for boot-from-volume i guess?13:15
mhenit does13:15
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mhenwe think this would be the best way moving forward without blocking more progress than necessary13:17
fungithat sounds like a reasonable plan to me too13:17
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mhenredrobot, moguimar, any objection from your side about shifting the focus more towards Glance and Cinder implementation for now, postponing the Nova part?13:20
redrobotmhen, no objections here13:21
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mhengood, then we'll do just that :)13:24
mhenlet's move on13:24
mhen#topic Open Discussion13:24
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mhenanything else to discuss?13:24
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fungii'll try to get more details from nova folks on their position regarding the spec reproposal, though that may not be until next week depending on how many of them are on holiday13:26
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mhenfungi, that's great; thanks for your support! Let's keep track of this in the regular meeting.13:28
fungisounds good13:29
mhenluckily, the Nova implementation is a modular part that can easily be left out for now and can be added at any point in the future, in my opinion13:30
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mhenokay then, thanks for joining this week and see you next monday!13:35
mhen#endmeeting image_encryption13:35
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slaweq#startmeeting networking21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 25 21:00:04 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'21:00
njohnstono/21:00
haleybhi21:00
slaweqhi21:00
slaweqlets wait 2-3 minutes for others before we will start21:01
bcafarelo/21:01
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slaweqok, lets start than21:04
slaweq#topic Announcements21:05
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slaweqWe are still looking for a "new daddies" for projects:21:05
slaweqneutron-fwaas: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/010929.html21:05
slaweqand21:05
slaweqneutron-vpnaas: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/010931.html21:05
slaweqlast week lajoskatona offered his (and his company) help with networking-bagpipe/bgpvpn21:05
slaweqand together with tmorin they will maintain this project so we should be good in this one21:06
slaweqAs a reminder, we are still in the middle of removing of neutron-interconnection from stadium projects: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:neutron-interconnection-retire21:07
slaweqall should be ready on our side, now I'm waiting for approval from the tc21:07
slaweqnjohnston: maybe You know what I'm missing in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694480/ to get it merged?21:07
njohnstonaccording tot he rules it has to be out there for comment for a period of time21:09
slaweqahh, ok21:09
slaweqso we are now waiting only :)21:10
slaweqthx for explanation21:10
njohnstonsee: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/house-rules.html21:10
njohnston"If there is no objection posted one week after the change is proposed (or a significant new revision of the change is posted), then the change can be approved by the chair."21:10
njohnstontmorin has a -1, that may cause delays21:10
slaweqsure, now I understand21:11
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slaweqthx21:11
slaweqok, lets move on21:11
slaweqlast announcement (reminder) from me for today21:11
slaweqShanghai PTG summary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/010702.html and also on http://kaplonski.pl/blog/shanghai_ptg_summary/ (with photos from team dinner)21:12
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slaweqI will keep link to this summary in the meeting agenda page for whole Ussuri cycle, if anyone would look for it :)21:12
slaweqand that's all from my side21:12
slaweqdo You maybe have any other announcements for the team today?21:12
slaweqok, lets go to the next topic than21:14
bcafarellooks like that's a no :)21:14
slaweq#topic Blueprints21:14
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slaweqwe have pretty many BPs scheduled for U-1: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ussuri-121:14
slaweqI added BPs for RFEs approved recently21:14
slaweqsome of them don't have assignement yet but I will ping people who proposed them if they will work on implementation of those21:15
njohnstonShould we add one for stateless security groups?21:16
slaweqwe also need approvers for some of those BPs, so if You want to be approver of some of them, please add Yourself there21:16
slaweqnjohnston: do You have link to RFE maybe?21:16
njohnstonslaweq: Other project team updates¶21:16
njohnstonoops that was the wrong copy/paste21:16
njohnstonslaweq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/175346621:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1753466 in neutron "[RFE] Support stateless firewall" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Giel Dops (nuage.gieldops)21:17
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slaweqI will add this one to the list too21:17
slaweqthx for reminding me it21:17
njohnstonthanks!21:17
njohnstonI can be the approver for that one21:17
slaweq#action slaweq to create BP for stateless SG and add it to U-1 dashboard for tracking21:17
slaweqok, thx21:17
slaweqone more question: should we maybe also add here BP for merging ovn into neutron tree?21:18
slaweqwhat do You think about it?21:18
njohnstonI see little downside, it is a major piece of work21:19
njohnstonlittle downside to tracking it21:19
slaweqok, I will add it there too21:20
slaweq#action slaweq to add BP for networking-ovn merge21:20
slaweqanything else regarding Blueprints?21:21
slaweqok, I guess that this means "no"21:22
slaweqso let's move on21:22
slaweq#topic Community goals21:22
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slaweqwe still have 2 community goals on the list: one is ipv6 only deployments, and I don't have any update on this still21:22
slaweqand second is dropping py2 support21:23
slaweqnjohnston: any updates on this one?21:23
njohnstonI am working on the etherpad to have it ready for the CI meeting tomorrow21:23
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slaweqgreat, thx njohnston21:24
slaweqthat will be good starting point for this :)21:24
slaweqok, lets move on than21:25
slaweq#topic Bugs21:25
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slaweqlast week mlavalle was on bug deputy21:25
slaweqand he send summary http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011109.html21:25
slaweqin overall I think we are good with most of the bugs21:26
slaweqthere is one medium which needs some volunteer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/185363721:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1853637 in neutron "Assign floating IP to port owned by another tenant is not override-able with RBAC policy" [Medium,New]21:26
slaweqif there will be no anyone, I will try to take a look into that one in next few days21:27
bcafarelrbac in the title, I think you will "win" it21:28
slaweqthere is also one another bug which I want to bring to Your attention here21:28
slaweqhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/185384021:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1853840 in neutron "Neutron fails to create bandwidth providers if CONF.host is set" [High,New] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics)21:28
slaweqdiscussion about that is on ML also: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/011044.html21:29
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njohnstonso what is on us about this right now - implementing the backportable solution while we wait for the nova api change?21:32
slaweqnjohnston: IIUC we should change the way how the "host" variable is determined on our side21:33
slaweqin placement client21:33
slaweqbut I'm not 100% sure as I didn't read whole thread on ML yet21:34
njohnston"Neutron(/Cyborg?): backportable patch to s/CONF.host/socket.gethostname()/"21:35
slaweqI will read this thread tomorrow morning to check exactly what it is about21:35
njohnstonthe other part waits on nova to make a new microversioned api21:36
slaweqyes21:36
slaweqplease check this thread and be aware of those changes, I think rubasov will send patch with backportable solution for neutron for that21:37
slaweqhe is assigned to this LP now21:37
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slaweqand that's all related to bugs from me for today21:38
slaweqdo You have any other bugs You want to discuss now?21:38
bcafareljust a heads-up on deputy rotation, in the next one I will probably not be around21:39
bcafarelend of december/early january I am far away from a laptop usually :)21:39
bcafarel(and I guess that will apply to a few of us-21:40
slaweqbcafarel: thx for heads-up21:40
slaweqI will propose next round of bug deputy for next week's meeting so we can check who can maybe replace with You21:41
bcafarelsounds good!21:41
slaweq#action slaweq to prepare next bug deputy round21:41
slaweqand speaking about bug deputy, this week njohnston is on it21:42
slaweqand I know that You are already aware of it, right?21:42
njohnstonyep!21:43
slaweqgreat :)21:43
slaweqok, so I think we are good with bugs topic for today21:43
slaweqnext topic than21:43
slaweq#topic Neutron performance subteam21:43
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slaweqas we decided during the PTG, we are now mergin perfomance meeting into this team meeting21:44
slaweqbut I don't think mlavalle is with us today21:44
slaweqso I think we will skip this topic21:44
slaweqand the last topic for today is21:45
slaweq#topic On Demand agenda21:45
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slaweqthere are no topics on the list for this section for today21:46
slaweqbut maybe You have anything You want to discuss with the team now?21:46
bcafarelnone on my side21:46
slaweqif not, than I think we can finish a bit earlier today's meeting21:47
njohnstonnothing here21:47
slaweqthx for attending the meeting21:47
slaweqand have a great week21:47
slaweqo/21:47
bcafarelo/21:47
slaweq#endmeeting21:47
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