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samP#startmeeting masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 10 04:00:51 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:00
samPHi all for masakari04:01
samPtpatil: Hi04:01
samP#topic Critical bugs or patches04:02
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samPAny critical bugs or patches need to discuss here?04:02
tpatil#link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/185432304:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1854323 in masakari "inconsistent output for 'openstack segment host show|update'" [High,New] - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd)04:02
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tpatilI have marked this bug as High priority and Shilpa is working on fixing this issue04:03
tpatilThe patch will be pushed sometime in this week04:03
samPtpatil: thanks, this is the one posted by Jan04:04
tpatilsamP: yes, that's correct04:04
tpatil#link : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/67573404:05
tpatilI have posted one comment on this patch and awaiting for author to response on my comment04:05
tpatilIn there, I have suggested to use host instead of hypervisor_hostname to solve the issue.04:06
samPtpatil: OK, I will try to ping Lian Young for this.04:07
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tpatilI think but with that change, it might break compatibility. We will need to discuss on that part04:09
samPtpatil: agree. I remove the +2 on this. Let's try to contact author for discussion.04:12
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tpatil#link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-masakariclient/+bug/185490304:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1854903 in python-masakariclient "masakariclient not supporting filter parameters for multiple times" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd)04:16
tpatilbasically masakari client allows to specify --filter recovery_method=auto  recovery_method=rh_priority, but masakari treats it as a single recovery_method04:17
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tpatil$openstack segment list --filter recovery_method=auto  recovery_method=rh_priority04:17
tpatilwhen it calls REST API, it send url query params something like : instance-ha/v1/segments?recovery_method=%5Bu%27auto%27%2C+u%27rh_priority%27%5D04:19
tpatili.e. segments?recovery_method=auto,rh_priority04:19
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tpatilbut masakari  API treats it as a single recovery_method ii.e. "auto,rh_priority"04:20
samPgot it. the problem is, it neglect the second filter04:20
tpatiland it will return empty list in such case04:20
tpatilso I think we should fix this issue in masakari client by deprecating --filter04:21
tpatiland simply using new options like "openstack segment list --recovery_method auto --host xyz"04:21
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tpatilor  we can also fix this issue in masakari-api, but in that case we will need to consider recovery method as auto or rh_priority04:23
tpatilI would like to know how do we want to fix this issue04:24
tpatilI would prefer option#1, because in masakari this functionality wasn't available but still added in masakariclient04:25
shilpasdtpatil: thanks for discussing this bug04:25
samPsicne openstack does not have it, I think deprecating is OK04:26
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samPwhat gonna happen if, openstack segment list --recovery_method auto --recovery_method rh_priority --host xyz04:27
tpatilin current master?04:27
tpatilempty list04:28
samPthat is for --filter right?04:28
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samPif we give two --recovery_method parameters for segment list command04:29
tpatiltoday these options doesn't exist04:29
tpatilif passed it will give an error: openstack segment list: error: unrecognized arguments: --recovery_method auto04:30
samPOK, my misunderstanding.04:30
tpatiloption #1 is to deprecate --filter option  and add new options recovery_method, host etc..04:31
samPThen what we sould do is, deprecating --filter and enable the new filtering options04:31
samPam I right?04:31
tpatilyes, that's correct04:31
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tpatiloption #2, masakari-api can split the recovery_method=auto,rh_prioirty into two and consider it as auto or rh_prioirty04:32
tpatilin URL query parameter, if we get recovery_method=auto,rh_prioirty, then it would return segments matching recovery method auto or rh_priority.04:34
samPoption #2 about changing the masakari-api?04:35
tpatilsamP: yes04:35
samPIMHO, in option #1 and #2, we have find a way to support multiple values for single parameter,04:36
samPsuch as,04:36
samP--recovery_method auto --recovery_method rh_priority04:36
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samP--filter recovery_method=auto  recovery_method=rh_priority04:36
samPFrom client side, we can call masakari-api for multiple times and merge the result04:37
samPor change the masakari-api as you proposed.04:37
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tpatilsamP: passing recovery_method multiple times is already supported by masakariclient but it doesn't get the expected result from masakari-api, so we should fix this issue in masakari-api.04:39
tpatilI think that's what you want to suggest here, is it correct?04:39
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samPtpatil: thanks, that's what I wanted to say. :)04:40
samPFixing the masakari-api is more appropriate in this case04:40
tpatilsamP: understood, we will fix this issue in masakari-api04:40
samPtpatil: thanks04:41
samPAny other issues?04:41
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samP#topic AOB04:42
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samPWe need to list up Ussuri work itmes.04:43
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tpatiljust one info before we move on U release items04:44
samPtpatil: sure04:44
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tpatilabout the above bug, if you call openstack --debug segment list --filter recovery_method=auto --filter recovery_method=rh_priority04:45
tpatilthe url query parameters passed are: /segments?recovery_method=auto&recovery_method=rh_priority04:45
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tpatilso it only considers recovery_method=rh_priority, as we get query parameters in dict form04:46
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tpatilif you want pass recovery method twice, then we would need change in masakari client to pass recovery_method=auto,rh_priority04:47
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samPtpatil: Got it, Thanks for the update04:47
tpatiland in masakari-api side, we will need to split it based on the comma separator.04:47
tpatilso in short, we will need to make changes in both client and api04:48
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tpatilabout Ussuri work items we want to implement blueprint04:49
tpatil#link : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/masakari/+spec/evacuate-non-recovery-instances-in-shutoff-status-at-host-failure-except-specified-tenants04:49
tpatilWe will propose specs for this blueprint soon04:50
samPI have just create a etherpad for list up the items.04:50
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samPThere are some PBs already proposed for U. Let's list them up and discuss on our next IRC meeting04:51
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tpatilSure, I have added above blueprint in the etherpad04:53
samPtpatil: Thanks04:53
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samPStatscowski: posted a question on #openstack-masakari04:54
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samPHello. newb question. We deployed openstack with msakari through kolla. Is the horizon webui enough to configure masakari? if so,  │04:54
samP                       │                         | we are having toruble triggering a successful failover04:54
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tpatilDoes kolla supports installation and deployment of masker-hostmonitor?04:56
samPAny known issues with horizon webui for configure masakari?04:56
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tpatilhorizon webui means masakari-dashboard?04:56
samPtpatil: I think it does not support install and config hostmonitor04:56
samPtpatil: yes04:56
tpatilmasakari-dashboard will only allows you to configure failoversegment and add hosts to it, also you can see the notification details04:57
tpatilif hostmonitor support isn't available in kolla, then compute failureover won't work04:57
tpatilcompute node failure won't work04:57
samPI think the answer is, only masakari-dashboard is not enough04:58
tpatilsamP: Yes04:59
samPyou have to configure masakari and setup masakari-hostmonitor (if not supported in kolla)04:59
samPno time left to give a detail answer. Statscowski: please ask on ML04:59
samPwe dont have much time left04:59
samPlet's finish the meeting here05:00
samPThank you all for your time.05:00
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slaweq#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 10 16:00:05 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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slaweqlets wait few more minutes for ralonsoh and others16:01
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slaweqok, lets start16:02
slaweqGrafana dashboard: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:02
slaweqplease open it now so that it will be ready when needed :)16:03
slaweq#topic Actions from previous meetings16:03
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slaweqfirst one:16:03
slaweqnjohnston to check failing NetworkMigrationFromHA in multinode dvr job16:03
slaweqI'm not sure if njohnston is around now16:04
slaweq#action njohnston to check failing NetworkMigrationFromHA in multinode dvr job16:04
slaweqlets keep it for next week than16:04
slaweqhi njohnston :)16:05
njohnstonyeah, keep it for next week, I am debuigging it right now16:05
slaweqand good luck with debugging16:05
slaweqok, next one:16:05
slaweqralonsoh to check functional tests timeouts https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/185446216:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1854462 in neutron "[Functional tests] Timeout exception in list_namespace_pids" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez)16:05
ralonsohI wrote a small script for this16:05
ralonsohand I added log messages in pyroute216:06
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ralonsohI detected that most of the time, the blocking method was https://github.com/svinota/pyroute2/blob/master/pyroute2/netns/__init__.py#L20916:07
ralonsohso instead of calling it every time we call create/delete namespace16:07
ralonsohI create the object once (in the root context, see patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698039/)16:07
ralonsohthat's all16:07
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slaweqsmart :)16:09
ralonsohBTW, _CDLL = ctypes.CDLL(ctypes_util.find_library('c'), use_errno=True)16:09
ralonsohthis MUST not change during the execution16:09
njohnstonmaybe put a comment in to that effect?16:09
ralonsohnjohnston, I mean: the library can't be modified16:10
ralonsohthis is not going to happen16:10
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slaweqthx ralonsoh for working on this16:11
slaweqI hope we will get rid of those timeouts with this patch16:11
slaweqnext one16:11
slaweqslaweq to check reason of grenade jobs failures16:11
bcafarellooks nice indeed16:12
slaweqI checked it16:12
slaweqand it seems that all those failures are related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/184492916:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1844929 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "grenade jobs failing due to "Timed out waiting for response from cell" in scheduler" [High,Confirmed]16:12
slaweqand as I talked with efried and mriedem yesterday, it is probably caused by oversubscribed CI nodes16:13
slaweqso we don't have any good solution for that problem now16:13
slaweqonly 2 possible options imo are:16:13
slaweq1. live with it like it's now16:14
slaweq2. make grenade jobs non-voting and non-gating temporary until this issue will be solved16:14
slaweqproblem with 2 is that we don't know when it may be possible fixed16:14
ralonsohpfff all grenade jobs?16:15
ralonsohmark them as non-voting?16:15
slaweqralonsoh: we have now only 2 multinode grenade jobs16:15
njohnstonI wonder if it would be worthwhile to email openstack-discuss and ask if anything can be done about the oversubscription16:15
slaweqwe removed single node jobs16:15
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ralonsohyes, but several tests16:16
ralonsohI mean tests16:16
slaweqnjohnston: there are such threads started by mriedem here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-October/thread.html#10484 and continued here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/thread.html#1050216:16
clarkbwe areour own noisy neighbors in many cases. One way to address oversubsceiption is to make our software run more efficiently16:17
clarkbdevstack jobs swap and Ive asked sevral times that openstack address this16:17
clarkbI think fixing swapping will likely have a major impact on performance relatedproblems16:17
slaweqclarkb: so we should focus on optimizing Neutron's memory usage to make this working better, correct?16:19
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ralonsohslaweq, agree with this but we usually optimize the speed, not the memory consumption16:21
ralonsohmost of out efforts are in optimizing the DB access, the parallelism, etc16:21
clarkbslaweq: and tge rest of openstack/devstack16:22
clarkbetcd seems like it isnt used but always run16:22
clarkbcinder backup too16:22
clarkbbyt it all adds up then you start swapping which impacts the current job and all other jobs trying to access those disk resources16:22
slaweqclarkb: ok, I will check those jobs and maybe will be able to disable some of those not used services there16:23
slaweqthx for this tips16:23
slaweq#action slaweq to check and try to optimize neutron-grenade-multinode jobs memory consumption16:24
slaweqok, I think we can move on16:24
slaweqnext topic16:24
slaweq#topic Stadium projects16:24
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slaweqtempest-plugins migration16:24
slaweqEtherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_stadium_move_to_tempest_plugin_repo16:24
slaweqlast 2 patches for neutron-vpnaas are ready for review now16:25
slaweq    Step 1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64937316:25
slaweq    Step 2: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/69583416:25
slaweqI just +2'ed Step 1 patch16:25
slaweqand in step 2 we will probably need to switch centos based job to be non-voting16:25
slaweqas code isn't compatible with py27 anymore16:26
bcafarelyes we need centos7+py3, or centos8 (when possible)16:26
ralonsoh(I can't run devstack with centos8)16:27
ralonsohsome libraries are missing16:27
slaweqmaybe we should switch this job to be fedora based?16:28
slaweqbut that can be IMO done as follow up patch16:28
ralonsohF29 is working, not F3016:28
ralonsohsure, in another patch16:28
bcafarelyes, let's wrap up tempest plugin migration first16:29
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slaweqyeah :)16:30
slaweqso I hope mlavalle will push one more PS soon and we will be done with this finally16:30
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slaweqI hope next week we will move it out from meeting agenda16:30
slaweqnext stadium related topic is16:31
slaweqNeutron Train - Drop py27 and standardize on zuul v316:31
slaweqEtherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-train-zuulv3-py27drop16:31
slaweqnjohnston: any updates on this since yesterday? :)16:31
njohnstonNope, I thought I saw bcafarel doing something related though16:32
bcafarelyes I sent a few phase 1 patches for review (links in etherpad)16:32
bcafarelalso I got feedback on openstack-python-jobs-neutron jobs16:32
bcafarelthese are in fact now legacy set and should not be touched, we should move to openstack-python3-ussuri-jobs-neutron16:33
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bcafarelI updated status for some projects too (reviews merged so done for them)16:34
njohnstonthanks very much bcafarel!16:34
slaweqbcafarel++ thx a lot16:35
* njohnston sees slaweq switching between channels, always in demand!16:35
bcafareleverybody always looking for the PTL16:36
slaweqnjohnston: yes, I'm trying16:36
slaweqbut it's hard :)16:36
slaweqok, I think that it is all related to stadium projects for today16:37
slaweqor maybe You have anything else what You want to discuss today?16:37
slaweqif not, lets move on to the next topic16:37
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slaweqok, lets move on than16:38
slaweq#topic Grafana16:38
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slaweq#link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:38
slaweqfirst thing which I want to mention is16:39
slaweqthat I sent today cleaning patch for grafana dashboard: https://review.opendev.org/69826416:39
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slaweqother than that, I don't see any issues on grafana16:40
slaweqjobs looks pretty well this week16:40
njohnstonI see the ironic cogating problem as well as tripleo-standalone, and midonet cogating looks like it is getting better16:40
slaweqnjohnston: yes, those I noticed too16:42
slaweqand I forgot about them now :)16:42
njohnstondo we know what is up with tripleo-standalone?16:42
slaweqis there any volunteer to check both of those jobs?16:43
ralonsohcan we ping yamamoto for midonet?16:44
ralonsohsorry for being lazy16:44
njohnstonwell midonet is fixed now16:44
ralonsohoh yes, sorry16:44
njohnstonit's the other two that are having issues16:44
slaweqralonsoh: midonet is fixed by skipping one failing test16:44
ralonsohslaweq, give me one to me16:45
ralonsohI'll take a look this week16:45
slaweqralonsoh: ok, pick whichever You want16:46
slaweqralonsoh: ok :)16:47
slaweqso I will check tripleo16:47
slaweqralonsoh: please check on neutron-channel, I just spoke with TheJulia about one issue in dhcp agent on ironic job16:47
slaweqmaybe it's the same issue (idk)16:47
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slaweq#action ralonsoh to check ironic-tempest-ipa-wholedisk-bios-agent_ipmitool-tinyipa job16:48
slaweq#action slaweq to check tripleo job16:48
slaweqok, lets move on than16:49
slaweqI don't have any new issues with scenario/functiona/fullstack jobs for today16:49
slaweqwhich is very good16:49
slaweqbut I have one issue with periodic jobs16:49
slaweq#topic Periodic16:49
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slaweqrecently we added periodic job which runs on mariadb instead of mysql16:50
slaweqand it is failing now:16:50
slaweq https://b12f79f00ace923cb903-227be9d6f8442281010ef49b8394f34d.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/periodic/opendev.org/openstack/neutron/master/neutron-tempest-mariadb-full/18fecee/job-output.txt16:50
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slaweqit seems that our new ovn related code is broken on mariadb16:50
ralonsohuhmmmm ok16:50
ralonsohI'll take a look16:50
slaweqralonsoh: thx16:50
ralonsoh(I did the DB migration)16:50
slaweqralonsoh: maybe it's again issue with mariadb 10.116:51
slaweqand on 10.4 will work fine16:51
ralonsohdo you have a link?16:51
slaweqas we had already with one other db migration script some time ago16:51
slaweqralonsoh: link to what?16:52
ralonsohthe problem in maribadb 10.116:52
slaweqgive me a sec16:52
ralonsohnp, we can talk tomorrow16:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1841907 in neutron "Neutron bootstrap failing on Ubuntu bionic with Cannot change column 'network_id" [Critical,Confirmed]16:52
ralonsohupsss also mine!!16:53
ralonsohI did this change too16:53
slaweqYou are doing many patches so some of them may break things ;)16:53
ralonsohthe point is in mysql and postgree that was working16:53
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slaweqthat's why I proposed mariadb periodic job16:54
slaweqas there are differences between mysql and mariadb now16:54
slaweqok, so ralonsoh You will check that, right?16:55
slaweq#action ralonsoh to check periodic mariadb job failures16:55
slaweqso that's all what I had for today16:56
slaweqin overall I think that we are now in really good shape with our CI, many patches were merged recently without dozens of rechecks16:56
slaweqso thx for working on CI improvements guys :)16:57
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slaweqhave a great evening and see You online16:57
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clarkbwe will begin the infra meeting shortly18:58
* frickler is half here18:59
clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec 10 19:01:16 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
clarkb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-December/006546.html Our Agenda19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:01
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clarkbThere will be no meeting December 24 or December 31. That means next week will be our last official meeting of the calendar year19:01
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clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:02
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2019/infra.2019-12-03-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:02
clarkbianw: have we created AFS volumes for static.o.o replacement?19:02
ianwyes, mostly ... the docs sites all done19:02
ianwmnaser is working on jobs i see, and i'm working on bringing up the roles & server to publish them19:03
ianwtarballs and releases are still something we need to think about19:03
clarkbthat was where we ran into the 50GB fs problem on rax test nodes right?19:04
clarkb(the role and server)19:04
fungiwhat's the complication with the releases site?19:04
fungii thought it was statically-generated content like the other sites19:04
ianwfungi: no complication, as such, just need to look at the details of the jobs and how they are going to publish to afs19:05
fungiahh, okay19:06
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clarkbok we've got an agenda item to go in depth for this topic in a bit too19:07
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:07
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clarkb#topic Update Config Management19:07
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clarkbMordred reports being unwell and hasn't made much progress here19:07
clarkbremember to cook your turkeys to 165F19:08
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clarkb#topic OpenDev19:08
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clarkb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2019-December/006537.html Governance email19:08
clarkbThe governance email has gone out. Good feedback so far19:08
clarkbI've made one revision to the proposal already and will prbably make at least one more to make things a bit clearer19:09
clarkbif you've got feedback I'm happy to hear it19:09
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clarkb(sorry distracted by zuul upgrade fallout)19:12
clarkbThe other opendev item I wanted to call out is that the gitea upgrade does not seem to have fixed tonyb's nova repo fetching problem19:13
fungibut at least we were able to rule that out19:13
clarkbhowever the gitea upgrade doesn't seem to have had any other reported issues and looking at cacti graphs gitea 1.10 results in fewer tcp connections19:13
ianwon the plus side, nobody else has reported anything?19:13
clarkbianw: not that I have seen19:14
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fungiyeah, seems to have gone very smoothly19:15
fungithanks to mordred in absentia!19:16
clarkbianw: at this point I think we are probably going to have to dig in with tracing and do our best to see where gitea fails to close those connections?19:16
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ianwclarkb: i think we know that git upload-pack is dying, at the bottom layer19:17
ianwbut then there's so much ontop of that ...19:17
clarkband we know that gitea doesn't close the tcp connection to the client (whcih is why the command hangs and doesn't do anything)19:17
clarkbI guess if the connection was closed the fetch would still fail so we need to fix the dying upload-pack to properly solve the issue19:18
clarkbAnything else on Opendev or should we continue?19:20
clarkb#topic General Topics19:22
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clarkbfungi: anything new on the wiki upgrade?19:22
clarkbNext is the static.o.o replacement update19:23
clarkbwe got a short update earlier. ianw anything else causing problems for the replacement server or was that filesystem thing the only problem?19:23
ianwi think it's going ok ... https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698128/ is the change in question that was not setting a small cache for all afs clients in the gate tests19:24
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/697587/19:24
ianwis the static.opendev.org role ... i still want to iterate on that some more, better testinfra19:25
ianwbut initially, everything should be in place to switch governance.openstack.org to that19:25
ianwwe should be able to test it before we switch DNS, once the server is up19:25
clarkb++ and since we do dns acme we can even get ssl set up before updating the A/AAAA/CNAME records19:27
ianwyep, i will need to setup the acme records before the server goes live19:27
ianwwith that process proven out, i think the other sites will be easy to switch too19:28
clarkbsounds like good progress. Thank you19:28
clarkbThe nodepool dib item was on the agenda but yseterday ianw said we don't need to go over it in the meeting19:30
clarkbianw: ^ is that still the case?19:30
ianwi don't think so ... we have progress merging the changes that build sibling projects with python-builder19:30
ianwthat is now all working, and the nodepool-builder container can build an image19:31
ianwnodepool-launcher hasn't managed boot it in the functional test yet, but so i'd say we're half-way :)19:31
clarkbThe last thing on the agenda is to point this list of services out again19:33
clarkb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/infra-service-list19:33
clarkbas mentioned this isn't urgent but I'd like to pick up on some of that "spring cleaning" in the new year19:33
clarkband that is it for the scheduled agenda19:35
clarkbI think others have been distracted by soe of the zuul fallout.19:35
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:35
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clarkbI'll open it up for anything we missed or went past too quickyl19:35
ianwi wanted to bring up dib gate testing19:35
ianwthis only occurred yesterday afternoon19:35
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698136/19:36
ianwbecause devstack has dropped xenial, we're left without anywhere to run functional test for suse-minimal jobs19:36
ianwbionic does not have zypper on the host19:36
ianwtwo options here are to pin the suse jobs to devstack train -- this will require work in the install-devstack role the test uses to install branches19:37
fungican an older devstack be used?19:37
fungiyeah, that19:37
fungigot it19:37
clarkbthis is where mordred's container bootstrap would help too19:37
ianwor, implement some of the other ideas about using containers as minimal images, etc19:37
clarkbthen we could use a suse container to get zypper and not care what platform we run dib on19:37
clarkbI expect that the container bootstrap work will take time and not be a drop in replacement for a while19:37
clarkbprobably best to use train devstack while we work on the container bootstrapping?19:38
ianwright, so yeah, for immediate "gate is broken" purposes, i'm going to have to put it into experimental19:38
corvusi reckon a branch option for install-devstack could be generally useful.  esp since most public clouds don't run master.19:39
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ianwi'm more than happy to expedite review, but i'm not sure how much time i have to focus on fixing it19:39
corvusif we have to triage dev/review time, i think that the container bootstrap is the best long-term investment19:40
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corvusif we have "extra" time, then adding branch support for install-devstack is also a good investment, but not as important as the first19:41
corvus(but, obivously, something we can do relatively quickly and can do it first)19:41
ianwthat's something i'd definitely like to be testing under a nodepool+containers functional test, as we might be looked at nested containers in that case19:41
corvusianw: yep, there be dragons19:41
ianwon a somewhat related note, we'll also have to think about when dib can go python3 only19:43
clarkbit can probably go ahead and do that today?19:43
clarkbat least for nodepool users it is already ypthon3 only19:44
ianwthe problem is the branchless nature, and so it will basically kill any centos7 users19:44
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/69721119:44
ianwis an example of the work-around we'll have to do to keep python219:45
clarkbianw: maybe put out a warning and then switch in a few months then?19:45
clarkbgive people time to go to centos 8 or similar19:45
ianwyep, i think so, anyway, just a heads-up on that19:46
clarkbI wanted to ask if there was any interest in a less formal activity with the team/group? One idea I had was everyone playing a few rounds of geoguessr (though that requires online registration with an email address and use of google maps)19:49
fungii feel like i wandered into a parallel universe now19:50
fungi(or missed a transition in the discussion)19:51
clarkbfungi: I also compiled mangband but I couldn't get the curses version to build and the sdl version doesn't allow me to move my character :)19:51
clarkbsorry the last discussion seemed to have tapered off19:51
clarkband was wondering if anyone was interested in end of year "office party" except we are remote so what do19:51
fungigot it19:51
fungii suppose geoguessr won't work with osm19:52
clarkbgeoguessr came to mind because its a browser game that tests geographical knowledge and a bunch of us travel a bit19:52
zbror maybe a pose on rdr2?19:52
clarkbfungi: ya I think gmaps is built into their web app19:52
clarkbzbr: I expect we might be the only two with rdr2 :)19:52
ShrewsI hated rdr219:53
clarkbI only just started playing it sunday night19:53
zbri loved rdr2 single player, online sucks.19:53
clarkbfungi: basically you get a streetview that you can navigate around but have to determine where you are on a world map only from what you see in the streetview19:54
clarkbfungi: and osm doesn't do streetview as far as I know19:54
zbras long nobody propose a candycrush competition we should be safe19:54
fungioh, i see. i'd never heard of geoguessr before19:54
zbrme neither, i am now looking at geoguessr for the first time19:55
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clarkbwell let me know. If a hour of geoguessr interests people I can pay for the pro version so we can share common maps together in challenges19:55
clarkbor feel free to suggest alternatives.19:56
clarkbI also tried supertuxracer but my gpu isn't good enoguh for it19:56
ianwhow is your gpu good enough for rdr2 but not tuxracer?19:56
corvusi just did an anonymous trial round of geoguessr, and guessed new zealand for tokelau.  only 2500km off, but it drew a funny picture19:56
clarkbianw: ps4 for rdr219:56
ianwahh!  i have it on pc ... though I'd have to kick my kid off :)19:57
zbri am on ps4, posse /dev/null -- id "ssbarnea"19:57
clarkbcorvus: nice19:57
clarkbWe'll call that the meeting then19:58
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clarkbthank you everyone!19:58
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fungithanks clarkb!19:58
diablo_rojothanks clarkb!20:00
ianwyes thanks clarkb, a dual lesson in crisis management and meeting technique :)20:03
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oneswighi martial you there?21:00
oneswig#startmeeting scientific-sig21:00
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martialHello friends, welcome to the next edition of the Scientific SIG meeting :)21:00
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martialHi Stig ;)21:00
oneswigWhat's new?21:00
martialnot much, trying to see the rules about sharing a container built with CuDNN21:01
martiallooks like they finally integrated DNN for OpenCV21:01
oneswigNot my wheelhouse.  What's the issue?21:01
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martialCuDNN is an Nvidia "developper" only download21:02
martialbut they provide the base container21:02
oneswigAh so it's not something that any dockerfile can pull in?21:02
martialit is21:03
martialwell if you start from the official one21:03
martialbut pulling means that you are following the license terms set on those pages21:03
jandersg'day all21:04
janderssorry for being late21:04
oneswigHi janders, hardly late21:04
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oneswigmartial: so it's a question of pulling in a license that you don't care for, implicitly?21:05
martialsomething like that21:06
oneswigTo borrow a little from Sherlock Holmes, that is a two-cheesecake problem :-)21:06
oneswigAt this end, I've been exploring a bit of mlnx network infrastructure I've not used before - VF LAG - anyone tried it previously?21:07
martialnot here21:07
oneswigThe idea is that if your hypervisor has a dual-port Mellanox NIC, if you bond those ports you can create virtual functions that somehow pass traffic that is also bonded (but presented as one virtual function)21:08
martialso mirror ?21:09
oneswigMore the sum of the parts than their reflection, I'd hope.  But I'm still piecing it together.21:10
oneswigThe investigation continues21:10
jandersI haven't use those yet21:10
martialseems cool that said21:11
oneswigI am not convinced how much traffic distribution there is between the underlying physical ports, but I'll report back when I find out.21:11
jandersagree that the option of having benefits of LAG without having to set up LAG in every instance sounds promising21:11
oneswigI hope so.21:12
oneswigWhat's new with you janders?21:12
oneswigtrandles and jmlowe send their apologies, I think there's a lot of winding up for end-of-year going on21:14
oneswigI don't think we have more agenda items to cover - anything from you martial?21:17
martialyep people going on vacation and such21:17
oneswigOK, shall we close?  Your dockerfile awaits :-)21:18
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oneswighave a good one!21:21
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