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tpatil | Ping Masakari members? | 04:03 |
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tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 04:07 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 28 04:07:10 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:07 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:07 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:07 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:07 |
tpatil | Hi All | 04:07 |
shilpasd | tpatil: Hi | 04:07 |
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tpatil | shilpasd: Hi | 04:08 |
tpatil | #topic Critical Bugs | 04:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Critical Bugs (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:08 | |
tpatil | LP Bug #1858762 | 04:09 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1858762 in masakari "“UNKNOWN” host_status notification may cause unsafe evacuation" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858762 | 04:09 |
tpatil | It seems like a simple fix | 04:10 |
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shilpasd | tpatil: ok, will assigned to me and will fix | 04:10 |
tpatil | That will be great | 04:11 |
tpatil | shilpasd: Do you want to discuss about any other reported bugs? | 04:14 |
shilpasd | tpatil: LP Bug #1858757 | 04:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1858757 in masakari "nova process not disable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858757 | 04:14 |
tpatil | I have added one review comment on the patch : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701506/ | 04:14 |
patchbot | patch 701506 - masakari - nova process not disable - 1 patch set | 04:14 |
shilpasd | tpatil: ok, thank you | 04:15 |
tpatil | I think this issue can be fixed in masakari-processmonitor instead of masakari | 04:15 |
tpatil | Moving next | 04:16 |
tpatil | #topic Ussuri work items | 04:16 |
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tpatil | #link : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems | 04:17 |
tpatil | Evacuate non-recovery (’HA_enabled = False’) instances in shutoff status at host failure except specified tenants | 04:17 |
tpatil | There is a specs uploaded for this item. will review it soon | 04:18 |
tpatil | For past 2-3 weeks, I have been very busy working on another OpenStack project so I couldn't spend lot of time on Masakari | 04:18 |
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shilpasd | tpatil: ya i know, hope you will b free very soon | 04:19 |
tpatil | Sorry for that. Will start checking all backlogs starting from end of next week. | 04:19 |
shilpasd | be* | 04:19 |
shilpasd | tpatil: thank you! | 04:19 |
tpatil | specs : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702427/ | 04:19 |
patchbot | patch 702427 - masakari-specs - Evacuate non-recovery (`HA_enabled = False`) insta... - 2 patch sets | 04:19 |
tpatil | I will review this specs as soon as I get time | 04:20 |
shilpasd | tpatil: thanks | 04:20 |
tpatil | #2: Modify masakari-hostmonitor in order to run it inside container | 04:20 |
tpatil | Any update? | 04:20 |
tpatil | I think the bigger issue is testing in the CI gate job | 04:21 |
shilpasd | tpatil: not started yet because of other engagements, will start after pushing fixes for LP Bug #1858762 | 04:21 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1858762 in masakari "“UNKNOWN” host_status notification may cause unsafe evacuation" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858762 - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd) | 04:21 |
tpatil | presently, we don't have CI job to run masakari-hostmonitor as it requires pacemaker and multinode setup | 04:22 |
tpatil | shilpasd: OK | 04:22 |
tpatil | #3: Command parameter support to segment list command to filter out segments based on host input parameter | 04:22 |
shilpasd | tpatil: changes are done, its under internal review, once done will upload to CG for review | 04:23 |
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tpatil | shilpasd: I know that you are working on this item. Can you please report it as a bug so that we can include it in the release notes. | 04:24 |
shilpasd | tpatil: yes will do that today and will let you know once done | 04:24 |
tpatil | shilpasd: Thanks | 04:25 |
tpatil | That's all work items listed in the etherpad for Ussuri | 04:26 |
tpatil | moving next | 04:27 |
tpatil | #topic AOB | 04:27 |
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shilpasd | tpatil: nothing from my side | 04:28 |
tpatil | ok, Let's end this meeting then | 04:28 |
tpatil | Thank you, All | 04:28 |
tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:29 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 28 04:29:12 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:29 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-01-28-04.07.html | 04:29 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-01-28-04.07.txt | 04:29 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-01-28-04.07.log.html | 04:29 |
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joxyuki98 | #startmeeting tacker | 08:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 28 08:01:25 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joxyuki98. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:01 |
yunyoung | hello | 08:01 |
yunyoung | I want to be a contributor of tacker project | 08:02 |
joxyuki98 | #topic Roll Call | 08:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:02 | |
joxyuki98 | hi yunyoung | 08:02 |
yunyoung | hi ~ | 08:02 |
joxyuki98 | welcome to the Tacker project! | 08:02 |
joxyuki98 | Is this your first time to attend our IRC meeting? | 08:03 |
yunyoung | yeah it is first time | 08:03 |
yunyoung | I uploaded the blueprint | 08:03 |
joxyuki98 | good | 08:03 |
yunyoung | but there is no review.. | 08:03 |
yunyoung | so I want to get your review | 08:04 |
joxyuki98 | okey. please wait a while for other attendees. | 08:04 |
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yunyoung | ok! | 08:06 |
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joxyuki98 | let's start. I have another schedule after 20 miniutes. | 08:10 |
joxyuki98 | #topic BP | 08:10 |
*** openstack changes topic to "BP (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:10 | |
joxyuki98 | yunyoung, do you have any discussion related to your spec? | 08:11 |
joxyuki98 | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685867/ | 08:11 |
patchbot | patch 685867 - tacker-specs - blueprint - 4 patch sets | 08:11 |
yunyoung | I uploaded blueprint. Here is my url for my blueprint. | 08:11 |
yunyoung | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685867/ | 08:11 |
patchbot | patch 685867 - tacker-specs - blueprint - 4 patch sets | 08:11 |
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yunyoung | Can you approve my bluerint ? | 08:12 |
joxyuki98 | Yeah, I will review it in a few days. But your spec seems to need more changes. | 08:13 |
joxyuki98 | Could you check https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html# when you have a time? | 08:14 |
joxyuki98 | This page instructs you how to write a spec and patches. | 08:14 |
yunyoung | I already see that page | 08:15 |
yunyoung | what should I modify my blueprint? | 08:15 |
joxyuki98 | thanks. | 08:15 |
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joxyuki98 | At first, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685867/ is a "spec", not a blueprint. You should register a blueprint to launchpad. | 08:16 |
patchbot | patch 685867 - tacker-specs - blueprint - 4 patch sets | 08:16 |
joxyuki98 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker | 08:17 |
yunyoung | we registered that to launchpad | 08:17 |
yunyoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/redundancy-module-vnffg | 08:17 |
yunyoung | here is url of my launchpad | 08:17 |
joxyuki98 | good, then you should link your spec to the blueprint by writing proper commit message. | 08:18 |
hyunsikyang | Hi jo and all, | 08:19 |
hyunsikyang | I am late. | 08:19 |
joxyuki98 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages, here is a guide of commit message. | 08:19 |
joxyuki98 | hi hyunsikyang | 08:19 |
yunyoung | what shoud I do more for review? link my spec to bluepint? I don't know what that means exactly... | 08:21 |
joxyuki98 | yunyoung, I will put comments including such of commit message once I review your spec. But it is helpful if you read the guide and make change by yourself. | 08:21 |
joxyuki98 | Sorry but I have only 8 minutes left. hyunsikyang, do you have anything to talk? | 08:23 |
hyunsikyang | NO. I checked your comment. | 08:23 |
hyunsikyang | I will reply it on my review | 08:24 |
joxyuki98 | Thanks. I don't intend to block your proposal and look forward to your reply. | 08:25 |
yunyoung | joxyuki. then if I want your approvement, should I modify blueprint? | 08:25 |
joxyuki98 | No, you should modify your "spec". | 08:25 |
yunyoung | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/tacker-specs/specs/stein/vdu-auto-healing.html | 08:27 |
yunyoung | like this? | 08:27 |
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joxyuki98 | It is one of the sample and for example see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/582930/ | 08:28 |
patchbot | patch 582930 - tacker-specs - VNF packages support for VNF onboarding (MERGED) - 20 patch sets | 08:28 |
hyunsikyang | yunyoung, I think, at first you should describe in your spec abstract. Not blueprint. | 08:29 |
hyunsikyang | you should describe your abstract in your spec... | 08:30 |
joxyuki98 | Yes, please write proper commit message. | 08:30 |
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yunyoung | ah.. okay | 08:30 |
yunyoung | thanks! | 08:30 |
joxyuki98 | I am very sorry but I have to leave. Thanks guys and welcome yunyoung. | 08:31 |
joxyuki98 | #endmeeting | 08:31 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 28 08:31:08 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:31 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-01-28-08.01.html | 08:31 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-01-28-08.01.txt | 08:31 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-01-28-08.01.log.html | 08:31 |
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slaweq | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 28 14:00:27 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
rubasov | o/ | 14:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
ralonsoh | hi | 14:00 |
amotoki | o/ | 14:00 |
bcafarel | hi | 14:01 |
lajoskatona | o/ | 14:01 |
haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
slaweq | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
slaweq | first releases related things | 14:02 |
slaweq | We are getting close to Ussuri-2, it will be in the week of February 10: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html | 14:02 |
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slaweq | so we should focus on reviewing patches related to BPs scheduled for Ussuri-2 (but we will get to BPs later) | 14:02 |
slaweq | We are also getting close to Rocky EM: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/012207.html | 14:02 |
slaweq | so if You have any backports to rocky which You would like to be released, please reach out to our stable core team | 14:04 |
slaweq | and the last one (as a reminder) | 14:05 |
slaweq | we are still looking for maintainers for neutron-fwaas | 14:05 |
slaweq | last call mail was sent by me some time ago: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/012099.html | 14:05 |
slaweq | but TBH I don't think we will have any volunteers to maintain it :/ | 14:06 |
slaweq | any other announcements from the team? | 14:07 |
slaweq | ok, I guess there is no other announcements from the team | 14:09 |
slaweq | #topic Blueprints | 14:09 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:09 | |
slaweq | here are all BPs for U-2: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ussuri-2 | 14:09 |
slaweq | we may probably have problems with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/default-dns-zone-per-tenant as owner of it can't work on it anymore so we need new volunteer | 14:10 |
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slaweq | I reached out to amorin from OVH to ask about it but he don't know if they will have anyone new to work on this soon, so probably we will need to postpone it for now | 14:11 |
slaweq | do You have any updates about other BPs? | 14:11 |
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bcafarel | mlavalle had an update he sent yesterday because he would not be able to attend, not sure if you saw it | 14:11 |
slaweq | bcafarel: I think I missed it | 14:12 |
slaweq | was it on ML? | 14:12 |
bcafarel | "made good progress with tagging during create port bulk. The patch is good to go: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700755, which now depends on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704240" | 14:12 |
patchbot | patch 700755 - neutron - Implement tagging during bulk port creation - 12 patch sets | 14:12 |
patchbot | patch 704240 - neutron - Pass result dict to extensions by create port bulk - 3 patch sets | 14:12 |
bcafarel | just good ol' IRC :) | 14:13 |
slaweq | ok, thx bcafarel :) | 14:13 |
slaweq | I saw he also set review priority for those patches | 14:13 |
slaweq | I will today or tomorrow go through list with other patches related to BPs for U-2 and will set priority for them too | 14:14 |
slaweq | so please check this review-prio list next days and review those patches :) | 14:14 |
slaweq | ok, so I guess there is no updates about other BPs for today | 14:16 |
slaweq | lets move on then | 14:16 |
slaweq | #topic Community goals | 14:17 |
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slaweq | I still didn't had time to work on this PTL docs yet | 14:17 |
slaweq | njohnston: any updates about dropping py2 support? | 14:17 |
njohnston | The drop py27 goal appears to have been achieved, as far as I can tell | 14:17 |
njohnston | all changes have merged | 14:17 |
njohnston | we may find a few little leftovers here and there over time | 14:18 |
njohnston | so projects are now fine to make their code incompatible with py27: removing six, etc. | 14:18 |
slaweq | \o/ that's great news | 14:18 |
slaweq | thx njohnston for all work on that | 14:18 |
ralonsoh | cool! | 14:18 |
ralonsoh | thanks njohnston | 14:18 |
bcafarel | I saw gmann sent a patch for neutron-tempest-plugin, we may have a few bits left there | 14:19 |
njohnston | we have great progress on the zuulv3 migration, which is going to be a goal for the V cycle | 14:19 |
* bcafarel looking for review | 14:19 | |
slaweq | I will mark this goal as done and will remove it from meeting's agenda | 14:19 |
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bcafarel | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704257/ | 14:20 |
patchbot | patch 704257 - neutron-tempest-plugin - [ussuri][goal] Drop python 2.7 support and testing - 1 patch set | 14:20 |
njohnston | bcafarel: Yes I think I remember that, the branchless tempest plugins are in a little bit of an odd situation, and gmann has been great helping shepherd the whole QA infrastructure so it handles that | 14:20 |
slaweq | but our problem is only for rocky, right? | 14:20 |
slaweq | stein and newer already runs on py3 IIRC | 14:21 |
njohnston | right | 14:21 |
gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704257/ | 14:21 |
patchbot | patch 704257 - neutron-tempest-plugin - [ussuri][goal] Drop python 2.7 support and testing - 1 patch set | 14:21 |
gmann | i need to check rocky issue if that is same. | 14:21 |
slaweq | so it's problem only for few weeks | 14:21 |
slaweq | as we agreed some time ago to run tagged version of plugin on EM branches | 14:21 |
slaweq | and rocky will be EM in few weeks | 14:21 |
slaweq | hi gmann :) | 14:22 |
gmann | to fix py2 things on rocky. we merged the running tempest on py3 venv - https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bug/1860033+status:merged | 14:22 |
gmann | so it should be fine. | 14:22 |
njohnston | the error for that change seems to be a requirements problem | 14:22 |
njohnston | Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement zipp===2.0.1 (from -c https://releases.openstack.org/constraints/upper/master (line 702)) (from versions: 0.1.0, 0.2.0, 0.2.1, 0.3.0, 0.3.1, 0.3.2, 0.3.3, 0.4.0, 0.5.0, 0.5.1, 0.5.2, 0.6.0, 1.0.0, 1.1.0) | 14:22 |
amotoki | As of now it failed due to zipp in py2. zipp issue has been fixed I think | 14:23 |
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amotoki | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704263/ should fix it. | 14:23 |
patchbot | patch 704263 - requirements - Use zipp 1.1.0 for python 3.5 and lower (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 14:23 |
gmann | yeah, it is fixed | 14:23 |
gmann | recheck should work now as tempest patch is merged recently - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703011/ | 14:24 |
patchbot | patch 703011 - tempest - Define python3 as basepython for Tempest tox env (MERGED) - 9 patch sets | 14:24 |
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slaweq | ok, lets check this patch than | 14:25 |
slaweq | thx gmann for help with that | 14:25 |
njohnston | thanks gmann! | 14:25 |
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slaweq | so lets move on to the next topic than | 14:26 |
slaweq | #topic Bugs | 14:26 |
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slaweq | lajoskatona was on bug deputy | 14:27 |
lajoskatona | Yes | 14:27 |
slaweq | lajoskatona: any bugs You want to bring up for team's attention? | 14:27 |
lajoskatona | as I wrote in the summary I think it was a quiet week, mostly with CI related bugs | 14:27 |
lajoskatona | and some moving of old networking-ovn bugs to neutron launchpad folder | 14:28 |
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lajoskatona | And as I remember perhaps one is not covered with somebody | 14:28 |
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lajoskatona | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860662 perhaps this one is without owner | 14:29 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1860662 in neutron "[OVN] FIP on OVN Load balancer doesn't work if member has FIP assigned on DVR setup" [Medium,New] | 14:29 |
lajoskatona | so I think that's it for bugs | 14:29 |
lajoskatona | Ohhh, perhaps 2 that can be good for drivers team, | 14:30 |
lajoskatona | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860338 | 14:30 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1860338 in neutron "[OVS] OVS agent should not plug/unplug smartNIC ports" [Wishlist,New] | 14:30 |
ralonsoh | yes, about this one | 14:31 |
lajoskatona | This one is related to recent smartnic support pathces | 14:31 |
slaweq | I also wanted to ask about it | 14:31 |
ralonsoh | this is a concern related to smart nics and OVS | 14:31 |
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ralonsoh | OVS agent should take care of >=L2 events | 14:31 |
ralonsoh | not L1 | 14:31 |
ralonsoh | that means: should not plug or unplug any interface | 14:32 |
ralonsoh | but I have a meeting this week with other RH and Mellanox guys | 14:32 |
ralonsoh | about this | 14:32 |
ralonsoh | so I'll add my comments in the bug | 14:32 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: but my first question here is: should we treat it as RFE or bug? | 14:32 |
ralonsoh | slaweq, I prefer to hear from Mellanox about smart nics and future developments | 14:33 |
ralonsoh | and the we (Neutron community) can decide about this | 14:33 |
ralonsoh | then* | 14:33 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: ok, please update LP with any additional info which You will have | 14:33 |
ralonsoh | sure | 14:33 |
slaweq | thx ralonsoh | 14:34 |
lajoskatona | The other one is this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1860521 | 14:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1860521 in neutron "L2 pop notifications are not reliable" [Undecided,New] | 14:34 |
lajoskatona | that is already marked as RFE | 14:34 |
lajoskatona | That's really all of last week | 14:35 |
lajoskatona | regarding bugs | 14:35 |
slaweq | yes, I will take care of it to triage it | 14:35 |
slaweq | thx a lot lajoskatona | 14:35 |
lajoskatona | :-) | 14:36 |
slaweq | our bug deputy this week is tidwellr and he confirmed me by email that he will take care of it | 14:37 |
slaweq | and next week bug deputy will be Swami, I will ping him via email too | 14:38 |
slaweq | ok, I think we can move on | 14:38 |
slaweq | or do You have any bugs which You want to talk about now? | 14:39 |
slaweq | ok, so I think we can move on | 14:40 |
slaweq | #topic Networking OVN and ML2+OVS+DVR Convergence | 14:40 |
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slaweq | I think lucasgomes isn't here now | 14:41 |
ralonsoh | one sec | 14:41 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: maybe You have any updates about it? | 14:41 |
ralonsoh | not all the info | 14:42 |
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ralonsoh | we have some problems with the FT tests | 14:42 |
ralonsoh | there we go ^^ | 14:42 |
* haleyb looks for the review topic | 14:42 | |
ralonsoh | lucasagomes, hi, can you update the OVN migration status? | 14:42 |
lucasagomes | ralonsoh: hi there, yes | 14:42 |
haleyb | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/neutron-ovn-merge | 14:43 |
lucasagomes | so I think we are similar to last week, we have the ovn driver almost enterily merged but it's missing functional tests | 14:43 |
lucasagomes | that said, we needed a new version of ovsdbapp in order to have the FT to start to run | 14:43 |
lucasagomes | that's done | 14:43 |
lucasagomes | so now they r being executed and we need to take a look in a few tests that are failing | 14:43 |
lucasagomes | hopefully all will be sorted by this week | 14:44 |
lucasagomes | I also started migrating the bugs from the networking-ovn bug tracker to the neutron bug tracker | 14:44 |
lucasagomes | so don't freak out if u see a bunch of new bugs popping up for OVN there | 14:44 |
lucasagomes | I guess that's mostly it | 14:44 |
lucasagomes | not sure if mentioned last week... but, we now have an tempest OVN test running (voting) in the gate | 14:45 |
slaweq | thx lucasagomes | 14:45 |
slaweq | do You need to propose new ovsdbapp release? or are You still waiting for some patch to be merged there? | 14:45 |
haleyb | one related item, i've been working on getting an ipv6-only job working for OVN, think it's happy now | 14:45 |
* haleyb waits | 14:45 | |
lucasagomes | slaweq: it's been released already | 14:45 |
lucasagomes | and requirements have been bumped | 14:45 |
slaweq | lucasagomes: ok, great then | 14:45 |
slaweq | haleyb: sorry, go on :) | 14:46 |
haleyb | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703685/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700939/ just need a few reviews | 14:46 |
patchbot | patch 703685 - neutron - Fix OVN agent devstack script to support IPv6 - 3 patch sets | 14:46 |
patchbot | patch 700939 - neutron - Define new ipv6-only job for OVN - 10 patch sets | 14:46 |
lucasagomes | haleyb: awesome! Will take a look today at it | 14:46 |
haleyb | i like the patchbot | 14:46 |
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haleyb | lucasagomes: thanks! | 14:47 |
lucasagomes | ah btw, to help with reviews I created a small OVN driver dashboard that filters out the reviewsing in neutron | 14:47 |
lucasagomes | if u interested: https://bit.ly/2voTVXf | 14:47 |
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maciejjozefczyk | thanks lucasagomes | 14:47 |
slaweq | thx lucasagomes for the link | 14:47 |
slaweq | looks nice | 14:47 |
slaweq | and thx for update lucasagomes and haleyb | 14:48 |
lucasagomes | yw | 14:48 |
slaweq | ok, lets move on | 14:49 |
slaweq | #topic On Demand Agenda | 14:49 |
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slaweq | we have one topic there: | 14:49 |
slaweq | "Do we need to change job definitions on stable branches as well?" | 14:49 |
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slaweq | I'm not sure who added it, njohnston is it Yours? | 14:49 |
lajoskatona | It was me | 14:49 |
slaweq | ahh, ok | 14:50 |
slaweq | so go on lajoskatona :) | 14:50 |
lajoskatona | The question came from bagpipe or bgpvpn job changes to zuukv3 | 14:50 |
lajoskatona | and the problem is that now some job definitions are in some common repo (job-configs or similar) and infra tend to ave the new jobs in porject repos | 14:51 |
lajoskatona | which I understand, but if we have one zuulv3 job definition in project repo, and old one somewhere else that can cause problems for maintenance | 14:51 |
lajoskatona | and cause confusion, etc... | 14:52 |
slaweq | In neutron repo we keept jobs for stable branches to be legacy ones | 14:52 |
lajoskatona | So my question is do we need to change old branches job definitions to zuulv3 (where possible) or let it as it is and care for multiple job definitions for the same job | 14:52 |
slaweq | so we didn't backport those patches which proposes zuulv3 jobs to stable branches | 14:52 |
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slaweq | but we changed names of jobs | 14:53 |
slaweq | as old jobs has got "legacy" in name | 14:53 |
lajoskatona | ok, then that is clear, let the legacy jobs as they are | 14:53 |
slaweq | so we proposed new (zuulv3) jobs without this word "legacy" | 14:53 |
lajoskatona | thanks | 14:53 |
slaweq | but I'm open to any other ideas how to do this | 14:54 |
lajoskatona | Ok, I check my patches, | 14:54 |
amotoki | IMHO we can backport zuulv3 changes. It would reduce the maintenance cost especially in small projects. | 14:54 |
lajoskatona | slaweq: no, I am ok with it, In my mind I can argue fro both solutions, so I wanted to hear other opinions as well | 14:54 |
lajoskatona | I think the most important is to have a common agreement otherwise it will be more difficult :-) | 14:55 |
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bcafarel | hmm true we made sure that all new jobs get new names (even if close sometimes) | 14:56 |
slaweq | from my personal experience I can say that migrating to zuulv3 may not be as straight forward in some cases and doing it also for stable branches may be even harder, especially now with this all "dropping py2 support nightmare" :) | 14:56 |
slaweq | and maintenance of those jobs in stable branches is pretty minimal usually | 14:57 |
lajoskatona | salweq: yeah that is also one thing to consider, that it is time consuming to do the conversion | 14:57 |
bcafarel | my main fear is that things go south when trying to backport new job definition - needed code changes somehow, not working on older branches, etc - but that should not blocking from attempting it :) | 14:57 |
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slaweq | I would say: keep legacy jobs for stable branches, at least if it works fine, when such job will require some fixes, we can think about moving it to zuulv3 for stable branches then | 14:59 |
lajoskatona | I think it is better to have similar approach at least on networking projects, so all to change to v3 or let legacy to be legacy | 14:59 |
slaweq | ok, we are almost out of time now | 14:59 |
lajoskatona | Ok, for me it is ok, and I suppose acceptable for infra as well | 14:59 |
slaweq | thx for attending the meeting | 14:59 |
slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 28 15:00:04 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-01-28-14.00.html | 15:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-01-28-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
lajoskatona | bye | 15:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-01-28-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
slaweq | have a great week guys :) | 15:00 |
slaweq | o/ | 15:00 |
amotoki | o/ | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | bye and hello | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 28 15:00:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:00 |
slaweq | hi ralonsoh :) | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | hello! | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | don't worry, the agenda is almost empty today | 15:00 |
ralonsoh | David is not going to attend, I'll update the RFE status | 15:01 |
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ralonsoh | let's start then | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527 | 15:01 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard) | 15:01 |
ralonsoh | the spec is merged | 15:01 |
slaweq | and there is also one small follow up for this spec, right? | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | but there is a patch to amend it | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703431/ | 15:02 |
patchbot | patch 703431 - neutron-specs - Missing caveat in NC DSCP spec - 2 patch sets | 15:02 |
slaweq | right :) | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | exactly | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | IMO, it's ok now | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | I'll +2 it | 15:02 |
slaweq | thx | 15:02 |
ralonsoh | David is going to push the last patch for the n-lib patch | 15:02 |
lajoskatona | o/ | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/670049/ | 15:03 |
patchbot | patch 670049 - neutron-lib - Neutron-Classifier service plugin - 9 patch sets | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, hi! | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | there are some errors in the CI but nothing serious | 15:03 |
lajoskatona | Just for info: I started to write some tempest API tests for it | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | IMO, the n-lib is almost ready | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, the classifier? | 15:03 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: yes | 15:03 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, that's fantastic! please, add this info to the LP | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | or use the bug number | 15:04 |
lajoskatona | as I see there's no tempest for it in the original repo, and I thought that can be useful | 15:04 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: will do | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | for sure that will be very helpful | 15:04 |
slaweq | lajoskatona++ thx a lot :) | 15:04 |
ralonsoh | and I have no more updates for this RFE | 15:05 |
lajoskatona | your welcome | 15:05 |
ralonsoh | let's see if, in 2 weeks, we have the neutron patch ready | 15:05 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: I hope so :) | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:06 |
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ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1851362 | 15:06 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1851362 in neutron "[RFE] ports do not inherit their associated network's policy" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | last patch is in the gate | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693244/ | 15:06 |
patchbot | patch 693244 - neutron - Add "qos_network_policy_id" to port definition - 4 patch sets | 15:06 |
ralonsoh | 7 rechecks | 15:06 |
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ralonsoh | but this is the last one | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | I'll remove this RFE from the list next meeting | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | thanks for the reviews! | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | btw, I have some requests to backport this feature | 15:07 |
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ralonsoh | this is not possible: there is an API change | 15:07 |
ralonsoh | and because this is not a bug, only a RFE, this is not going to be possible | 15:07 |
slaweq | yes | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1843165 | 15:08 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1843165 in neutron "RFE: Adding support for direct ports with qos in ovs" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to waleed mousa (waleedm) | 15:08 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/611605/ | 15:09 |
patchbot | patch 611605 - neutron - Add support for direct ports with QoS in OVS (MERGED) - 22 patch sets | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | merged last week | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | thanks to the smart nics QoS support | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | the patch "only" enables to use those ports with the QoS extension | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | of course, we have sanity checks for this | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | I'll remove this RFE from the list next week | 15:09 |
ralonsoh | and that's all I have in the RFE section | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | something else? | 15:10 |
slaweq | nope | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | let's move on | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:10 |
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ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1845176 | 15:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1845176 in neutron "Removing of QoS queue in neutron-ovs-agent fails due to existing references" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:10 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/687922/ | 15:11 |
patchbot | patch 687922 - neutron - Add OVS QoS driver cache for minimum bandwidth rules (MERGED) - 15 patch sets | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | the patch was merged last week | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | this patch, I think so, will reduce the number of errors in the CI | 15:11 |
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ralonsoh | related to fullstack QoS tests | 15:11 |
slaweq | fingers crossed :) | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | (I don't remember now the LP bug for this) | 15:11 |
ralonsoh | let's find it during the next meeting | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | I'll remove this bug from the list for the next meeting | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | next one | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1853171 | 15:12 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1853171 in neutron "Deprecate and remove any "ofctl" code in Neutron and related projects " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 15:12 |
ralonsoh | as commented, this is going to be a long life bug | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | and maybe we won't be able to remove ofctl from Neutron | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | there are some parts, like the firewall, using it | 15:13 |
lajoskatona | ralonsoh: I started to work on bagpipe, but I have slow progress regarding this ofctl one | 15:13 |
ralonsoh | lajoskatona, yes, and bagpipe | 15:14 |
slaweq | so it's "cross project" effort, right? | 15:14 |
ralonsoh | it is | 15:14 |
lajoskatona | yeah, as I remember 3-4 project use neutron ofctl methods | 15:14 |
ralonsoh | but also there are some sections in the firewall I don't know how to implement using native implementation | 15:14 |
ralonsoh | so it's a bit more complicated as I expected | 15:14 |
ralonsoh | the main think is: no new development should use it | 15:15 |
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ralonsoh | thing* | 15:15 |
slaweq | maybe we can ask otherwiseguy for help with those hard parts? | 15:15 |
ralonsoh | yes, he can help us a lot | 15:15 |
ralonsoh | but when I talked to David, he told me that this is a low priority bug | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | and he will start implementing the migration once the classifier is merged | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | or the main part | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | makes sense | 15:16 |
ralonsoh | I would reduce the "importace" to low | 15:17 |
slaweq | yes, it's definitely not urgent thing | 15:17 |
ralonsoh | and last bug is | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1824095 | 15:18 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1824095 in neutron "Fullstack job broken in stable/stein branch" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | The patch was merged | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | one sec... | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/651458/ | 15:18 |
patchbot | patch 651458 - neutron (stable/stein) - Specify physical network in QoS fullstack tests (MERGED) - 2 patch sets | 15:18 |
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ralonsoh | a simple cherry-pick from a previous one | 15:18 |
ralonsoh | I'll remove it from the list | 15:19 |
ralonsoh | and that's all I have | 15:19 |
ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:19 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:19 | |
ralonsoh | do you have something to discuss? | 15:19 |
slaweq | I'm good | 15:21 |
ralonsoh | perfect then, thank you very much for attending today. Next meeting in 40 mins in this channel (Neutron CI) | 15:21 |
ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:21 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 28 15:21:51 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:21 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-01-28-15.00.html | 15:21 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-01-28-15.00.log.html | 15:21 |
slaweq | o/ | 15:21 |
slaweq | ralonsoh: no, CI meeting is moved to Wednesday | 15:22 |
lajoskatona | o/ | 15:22 |
slaweq | we talked about it last time, do You remember? | 15:22 |
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ralonsoh | slaweq, ahhhhh yes! thanks! | 15:24 |
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slaweq | :) | 15:25 |
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clarkb | anyone else here for the infra meeting? | 18:59 |
Shrews | o/ | 18:59 |
clarkb | We will get started shortl | 19:00 |
clarkb | *shortly | 19:00 |
ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
corvus | o/ | 19:01 |
clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 28 19:01:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-January/006583.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
zbr | o/ | 19:01 |
clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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clarkb | I did not have any announcements to announce | 19:01 |
corvus | clarkb: nice announcement | 19:02 |
clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:02 |
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clarkb | corvus: it was agood one | 19:02 |
clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-01-21-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:02 |
clarkb | There were no actions recorded in the last meeting | 19:02 |
clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:03 |
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clarkb | Let's dive right in then | 19:03 |
clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:03 |
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clarkb | link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703134/ Split OpenDev out of OpenStack Governance | 19:03 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703134/ Split OpenDev out of OpenStack Governance | 19:03 |
clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703488/ Update OpenDev docs with new Governance | 19:03 |
clarkb | I think these two changes are just about ready to go in. At least I haven't seen much new feedback recently on the first one | 19:04 |
clarkb | I'll bring it up with the TC to see what the next steps are from their side to keep it moving | 19:04 |
clarkb | but if you've got any input now would be a great time to record it | 19:04 |
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clarkb | Are there any questions about this move to bring up here? | 19:05 |
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clarkb | The other opendev item I wanted to bring up was that we had been experiencing a ddos from huawei cloud against our gitea servers | 19:07 |
corvus | (likely unintentional) | 19:07 |
clarkb | correct | 19:07 |
clarkb | I ended up emailing our OSF board member from huawei and they said they were customer IPs so couldn't put us directly in touch but did bring it up with the customer | 19:08 |
clarkb | since then I've not noticed similar behavior | 19:08 |
clarkb | If we continue to see similar OOMing behavior though we should likely strongly consider gitea hosts with more memory. | 19:08 |
clarkb | fungi mentioned rate limiting requests, but I think that may make it worse because the git processes would stay around longer as the requests would take more time. And it is the git processes loading a bunch of info into memory that causes the problems | 19:09 |
clarkb | (another option may be more gitea hosts as that will distribute load from lb better) | 19:09 |
clarkb | something to monitor but for now it is no longer an emergency | 19:09 |
corvus | in the long run, if we can get to a single distributed instance, we should be able to handle that better with load balancing | 19:09 |
clarkb | ++ | 19:10 |
corvus | but yeah, until that happens, it seems like either more ram or more hosts are the best short term options | 19:10 |
fungi | yes, if the gitea servers all shared a coherent backend filesystem view that would be much easier to absorb and scale | 19:10 |
corvus | (more hosts should work in this case since we're talking about multiple source ips) | 19:11 |
fungi | right now we can't even guarantee that two gitea servers have the exact same commits at any given point in time, due to gerrit scheduling replication to them independently | 19:11 |
ianw | are they "legitimate" requests, or more looking like scripts gone wild? | 19:11 |
clarkb | ianw: it looked like periodic CI jobs that cloned everythign from scratch each day | 19:12 |
fungi | ianw: best guess is a ci system which doesn't cache repositories locally and clones them all for every build | 19:12 |
clarkb | from hundreds of hosts | 19:12 |
fungi | timing also could be related to the recent cinder announcement about drivers without third-party ci getting marked as unsupported | 19:13 |
clarkb | that is possible | 19:13 |
ianw | even if we could infinitely scale, perhaps rate limiting that sort of thing is best for everyone anyway | 19:13 |
fungi | huawei representatives did say it wasn't a huawei system though, just some customer in their public cloud | 19:13 |
fungi | the challenge is how to rate-limit it so that it doesn't make the matter worse, as clarkb points out | 19:14 |
clarkb | if we wanted to go the rate limit route we'd have to limit requests before git gets forked | 19:14 |
clarkb | it is doable but a naive approach would likely not work well | 19:14 |
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fungi | i suspect the only sane limits would have to be implemented within gitea itself | 19:15 |
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fungi | for example, to allow the host to stop serving new requests once system resource utilization reaches some defined thresholds | 19:15 |
fungi | so that the load balancer starts sending subsequent requests to other hosts in the pool | 19:16 |
fungi | could also implement that with a health check agent reporting host info in haproxy, but that's complex to set up | 19:16 |
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ianw | can haproxy "count" how many connections have been made, and cut you off? or are the ips spread out enough that it would get under that but still cause problems? | 19:19 |
clarkb | I think the ips were spread out enough in this case | 19:20 |
fungi | you could do that with iptables/conntrack actually | 19:20 |
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clarkb | which is why a consumption monitoring system might be necessary | 19:20 |
clarkb | cloning nova requirse just over a gig of memory | 19:20 |
clarkb | have enough of those (and not very many) and you run out of memory | 19:20 |
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fungi | yeah, it's less about the request volume and more about the impact of specific requests | 19:21 |
fungi | and somewhat, though not directly correlated to, the data transferred | 19:22 |
clarkb | having a proper gitea cluster should largely mitigate this as long as our k8s cluster has enough headroom | 19:23 |
clarkb | as new giteas can be spun up to meet increases in demand | 19:23 |
clarkb | its possible we may just want to focus on making ^ a reality | 19:23 |
corvus | i haven't checked in on the status of elasticsearch support recently | 19:24 |
corvus | progress is being made https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/pull/9428 | 19:25 |
corvus | but we still need code search for that | 19:26 |
clarkb | exciting, maybe we keep that as the focus as it solves other problems too. And keep the other option in mind if the ddos problems comes back or gets worse | 19:26 |
clarkb | Anything else on this topic or should we move on? | 19:27 |
ianw | is this they type of thing we could have a story to track | 19:27 |
ianw | i sort of worry that there's a lot of investigation not consolidated on it anywhere | 19:28 |
clarkb | ianw: ++ (too easy to forget when things are broken) | 19:28 |
clarkb | #action clarkb write up story on gitea OOMs and DDoS | 19:28 |
clarkb | I'll fix that | 19:28 |
ianw | thanks, that will be great as we track it over time | 19:29 |
clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:30 |
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clarkb | I don't think mordred has made much progress on the dockerification of gerrit | 19:30 |
clarkb | he has been busy with travel and such | 19:30 |
clarkb | Does anyone else have config management updates to bring up? | 19:30 |
ianw | i really want to get back to nodepool builder from containers very soon | 19:31 |
clarkb | ianw: is that running on the nodepool side's testing yet? | 19:32 |
ianw | ummm ... not sure | 19:34 |
clarkb | no worries, was just curious | 19:34 |
clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:34 |
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clarkb | I/we have been semi formally pushign on getting rid of Trusty once and for all the last few days | 19:35 |
ianw | (re: nodepool yes we have container tests merged) | 19:35 |
clarkb | I've been working on a static.openstack.org replacement which needs a new gerritlib release which I'll push after the meeting | 19:36 |
fungi | status not static, right? | 19:36 |
clarkb | once that is in I half expect it to be functional, I'll confirm that then update dns | 19:36 |
clarkb | er yes status. | 19:36 |
clarkb | As part of this I realized we have a lack of testing around jeepyb and gerritlib so I've been working on a new job this morning to do an integration test with a running gerrit | 19:36 |
clarkb | this should give us a lot more confidence in jeepyb and gerritlib changes which are likely to become important as we tool up some of the opendev self serve stuff. If nothing else we can reuse the test platform and build different tools | 19:37 |
clarkb | I'm close to having that stack ready for review and will bring it up after the meeting once I have the ready for review commits pushed | 19:37 |
clarkb | ianw: any progress on static? I think the change to add the host landed yesterday | 19:37 |
ianw | if i could get some eyes on | 19:38 |
ianw | #link https://review.opendev.org/704523 | 19:38 |
ianw | hit a small snag deploying openafs | 19:38 |
ianw | but, after that, we should be able to test out governance and security sites with local host updates | 19:39 |
ianw | if we're happy, we can switch dns at some point after that | 19:39 |
ianw | with that POC the other bits should proceed quickly as we get them published to afs | 19:39 |
clarkb | sounds good, I'll review that after the meeting | 19:40 |
clarkb | wiki was the other big host in this list, fungi have you had a chance to psuh on it yet? | 19:40 |
fungi | unfortunately no. trying to get freed up to do that today | 19:41 |
clarkb | ok let us know if we can help | 19:41 |
zbr | can i add something about our static websites? | 19:41 |
fungi | have to run some errands after the meeting and will then figure out where i last left off | 19:41 |
clarkb | zbr: sure | 19:41 |
zbr | we should enable google site tools in order to know who is linking to us and be able to reindex quickly when we update stuff | 19:41 |
zbr | or find links that are broken | 19:42 |
ianw | that's usually dropping a randomly named html file in the root, right? | 19:42 |
zbr | enabling it requires only some kind of site verification, no JS mess is needed. | 19:42 |
zbr | exactly | 19:42 |
corvus | i don't think that's something that the infra/opendev team needs to do | 19:43 |
zbr | when zuul docs got broken I raised https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702888/ fro enabling it. | 19:43 |
corvus | that should be up to the individual projects | 19:43 |
clarkb | individual projects should be able to verify themselves if its based on content in the site | 19:43 |
fungi | i'd be very uncomfortable forcing an tacit endorsement of some proprietary third-party service on all sites opendev hosts | 19:44 |
corvus | my read is that the zuul project is not thrilled about the idea | 19:44 |
fungi | an alternative is to do what we did for docs.openstack.org and provide 404 reporting scraped from teh apache error logs | 19:44 |
zbr | so we provide a worsened experience to the users just for the spite of proprietary 3rd parties? | 19:45 |
clarkb | zbr: I think the goal would be to address the problem without relying on a proprietary service. The preexisting 404 scanner tool is one such method (as fungi points out) | 19:45 |
zbr | clearly the docs where broken for days before we fixed them | 19:45 |
clarkb | and if projects wish to opt into those proprietary tools they can do so without our input aiui | 19:45 |
fungi | for the record, zuul's docs were not broken for days. external serch engines were serving stale cached links | 19:46 |
fungi | zuul's documentation provides its own index which is required to be consistent by the tool which builds it | 19:47 |
fungi | i'll grant that the integrated keyword searching for sphinx is not great compared to what external services provide, but that's independent of the documentation index itself | 19:47 |
clarkb | zbr: but yes, one of the explicit goals here is to push viable project hosting via open source tooling | 19:47 |
fungi | and to improve those open tools where necessary | 19:48 |
ianw | is that hash in the file name based on the URL, or based on the user account requesting to add the site? | 19:48 |
zbr | ok, i just wanted to state that we should not ignore the UX | 19:48 |
corvus | ianw: that's for a user account | 19:48 |
corvus | https://review.opendev.org/702888 would give zbr administrative control of the zuul-ci.org domain in google webmaster tools | 19:49 |
ianw | ok, so it's not like you add one file and everyone/anyone could verify it | 19:49 |
zbr | true, but someone has to do it, i does not have to be me. | 19:49 |
corvus | in fact, no one has to do it | 19:50 |
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fungi | as evidenced by the fact that no one has so far | 19:50 |
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zbr | so is better to do nothing just because we don't want to give someone the permission to do SEO | 19:50 |
corvus | i feel like the conversation has looped back to 19:45 | 19:51 |
Shrews | the fact that folks find it better to use an external search engine to find the docs they need points to the fact that we should improve the layout of our current docs to make things easier to find. the reorg was (hopefully) the beginning of that effort | 19:51 |
clarkb | I think this is a question for the zuul project not opendev, but I also don't think anyone is saying we have to give up. Simply thatZuul would like to use open source tools to address this problem | 19:51 |
clarkb | we only have about 8 minutes left and there are a couple more topics, I think we should move on | 19:51 |
corvus | Shrews, clarkb: ++ | 19:52 |
clarkb | I wanted to point out we have deployed a new (arm64) cloud to production in nodepool | 19:52 |
clarkb | Unfortunately there is some weird network behavior between nb03 and the cloud apis so we have been unable to upload images | 19:52 |
ianw | also the mirror has disappeared unexpectedly, and the api hasn't helped determine why | 19:52 |
clarkb | we've reached out to kevinz on this but it is the chinese new year so expect it might be a little while before that gets fixed | 19:52 |
ianw | tracking things in | 19:53 |
ianw | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2007195 | 19:53 |
clarkb | this new cloud will give us like 5 times the capacity for arm64 jobs | 19:53 |
clarkb | it is very exciting | 19:53 |
ianw | yep, and we'll for sure help sort out any stability issues, we always do :) | 19:54 |
clarkb | And finally I set up a followup call with the airship team to talk about any new questions about adding the ericsson cloud to opendev nodepool. That happens tomorrow at 1600UTC on jitsi meet. | 19:54 |
clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-January/006578.html Airship CI Meeting details here | 19:54 |
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clarkb | I ended up using jitsi meet for something else recently and it worked really well so wanted to give it a go. It is shaping up to be an open source alternative to google hangouts and zoom etc | 19:55 |
clarkb | ya'll are welcome to join. The timing is probably bad for ianw, you should sleep in instead :) | 19:55 |
clarkb | And with that we have ~3 minutes for anything else | 19:56 |
clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:56 |
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fungi | zbr: i've been evaluating our various options for open tools to perform analysis of our web activity in socially-conscious ways, producing reports which avoid any use of pii so they can be provided publicly. so far each of the classic tools i've evaluated has had one problem or another, but this one came to my attention last week i'm curious to try: | 19:57 |
fungi | #link https://www.goatcounter.com/ | 19:57 |
zbr | thanks, still think we are missing the point. | 19:58 |
fungi | i apparently am | 19:58 |
zbr | you cannot force google to reindex your site with 3rd party tools, neither to convince them to tell you about incoming links, broken stuff and so on. | 19:59 |
zbr | this is not about analytics stuff | 19:59 |
clarkb | zbr: right, but if we properly add redirects then we don't need to force reindexing | 20:00 |
fungi | you can however find out what links are "broken" by seeing what urls folks request which return errors and add corresponding redirects | 20:00 |
clarkb | we can instead rely on their periodic reindexing | 20:00 |
clarkb | and we are at time | 20:00 |
clarkb | thank you everyone | 20:00 |
clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-01-28-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:00 |
zbr | not really because if you look at the logs you will know about broken link only when someone will visit you again, not before it happens. | 20:00 |
clarkb | feel free to shift discussion over to #openstack-infra though the web hosting discussion might be better in #zuul | 20:00 |
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