Tuesday, 2020-02-25

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samP#startmeeting masakari04:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 25 04:02:11 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:02
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samPHi all for masakari04:02
samPHi all!04:02
samPLet"s start.04:02
samP#topic critical bugs, patches04:03
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samPAny critical bugs patches need to discuss here04:03
suzhengwei__I have another 2 commit waiting for review04:04
samPsuzhengwei__ really sorry for the delay. I will review this asap.04:06
suzhengwei__thank you.04:06
suzhengwei__I also draft a spec in U. Would you like to review it too?04:07
samPtpatil If you have spare time, can you please review those patches?04:07
samPsuzhengwei__ sure, I will review the spec.04:08
tpatilsamP: Sure, will do. This week I'm on leave. so I will review these patches in the next week04:08
samPtpatil no problem. Thank you.04:09
samPsuzhengwei__ np04:09
tpatilsuzhengwei__: There are few comments on the patch : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701489, are you planning to implement those comments?04:09
suzhengwei__bug/1858757, there is a new patch in masakari-monitors. The patch in masakari will be abandon after the patch is reviwed.04:12
tpatilsuzhengwei__: Got it, Thanks. I will review this patch04:12
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shilpasdtpatil: thanks for review https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bp/host-input-parameter-to-segment-list04:14
suzhengwei_Bad network. I am back.04:14
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shilpasdi have addressed review comments, need further review04:15
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tpatilshilpasd: Ok thanks. I will review it in the next week04:16
samPshilpasd thanks for implementing the comments. I will review those.04:16
shilpasdsamP: thanks04:16
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samP#topic U work items04:17
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samPPlease share if any update on U work items.04:17
shilpasdi have pushed spec for 'Evacuate non-recovery (`HA_enabled = False`) instances', https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702427/04:19
shilpasdthere are minor comments by Toshikazu Kazu Ichikawa, will addressed and push the same today04:20
samPThanks. This might take time for me to review. I will review this after review above patches and specs.04:21
shilpasdsamP: no problem, thanks04:21
samP#topic Ussuri release04:24
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samP#link https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html04:25
suzhengwei_There is a wrong word in doc. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700489/04:25
samPHere is the schedule for U release.04:25
tpatilsuzhengwei_: +204:26
samPsuzhengwei_ thanks for the fix. merged.04:26
samPWe need to review the patches and merge them for U release. I will do my best to review them and merge much as I can.04:27
samPAll members, please review patches if you have spare time.04:29
tpatilAs per work items listed in etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems04:29
tpatilModify masakari-hostmonitor in order to run it inside container04:29
tpatilWe don't have CI job to test masakari-hostmonitor in container04:29
tpatilalso there is no support to install pacemaker04:30
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samPCurrently we don't have CI job for test containerised masakari-hostmonitor04:32
samPCan infra support to deploy hostmonitor in container?04:33
samPWe can integrate those tests to 3rd party CI. However, we need to do some changes in 3rd party CI infra.04:35
tpatilI think that support can be added but before that we need to add support to install pacemaker/crm installation on multiple nodes04:35
tpatilNTT is maintaining 3rd Party CI infra, is it possible to add such support in this CI job?04:36
samPIt is possible.04:36
samPI am not sure how to add special tests only for 3rd party CI. I will ask those info from our CI maintenance team04:38
tpatilsamP: Once this support is available in CI job, then only you will allow to merge a patch to run hostmonitor in container, is it correct?04:39
samPSince, the environment setup take time, we can manually confirm the patch and merge it. However, it does not grantee that it wont't break from other changes.04:40
tpatilsamP: Ok, I will push a patch to run hostmonitor in container and then we can further discuss about it on the patch directly.04:41
samPtpatil thanks.04:41
tpatilNext work item: Command parameter support to segment list command to filter out segments based on host input parameter04:41
tpatilshilpasd has already proposed patches to add this support. she has also created a new blueprint for it but no specs. I don't think it's requires any spec. please confirm04:43
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tpatil#link : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=host-input-parameter-to-segment-list04:43
samPtpatil shilpasd no spec required. Only BP will fine. Let's add details to documentation.04:45
tpatilsamP: Got it. Thanks04:45
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samPAny other items to discuss?04:49
suzhengwei_I have done some implent work for spec "enable to segment". If you have time, please review it.04:50
samPsuzhengwei_ Thank you. I will try to review this before our next meeting. Sorry for the delay.04:52
suzhengwei_no problem.04:52
tpatilsuzhengwei_: I think that's a good feature. I would request you to please add a specs for it.04:53
tpatilsamP: Let me know your opinion04:53
suzhengwei_there is a spec. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705893/04:53
tpatilsuzhengwei_: Nice, I will check it. I will add this work item in etherpad04:54
samPOK then. Our next meeting will be on 3/10.04:55
samPPlease use #openstack-masakari IRC channel @freenode or openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org  for further discussions or qsuestions.04:56
tpatilsuzhengwei_: Done, please check etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems04:56
samPtpatil thanks.04:57
suzhengwei_tpatil: thanks04:57
shilpasdthank you all04:57
samPThank you all for great work!04:58
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samPsince less than 2mins left, Lets finish the today's meeting here.04:59
samPThank you all!04:59
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dkushwaha#startmeeting tacker08:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 25 08:01:35 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
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dkushwaha#topic Roll Call08:02
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dkushwahaHi all08:03
dkushwaha#chair joxyuki08:04
openstackCurrent chairs: dkushwaha joxyuki08:04
dkushwahalets start..08:04
dkushwaha#topic Specs08:04
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dkushwahakeiko-k regarding comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/591866/08:05
dkushwahacould you give some imputes on intermediate VNF states08:06
keiko-kActually consumers don't have any way to check LCM operation states08:07
keiko-kThere is related ETSI compliant API which consumers can check the status with08:07
keiko-kWe will implement the API in next release.08:07
dkushwahaactually my comment is not about having query api, but mentaining the statu08:09
dkushwahaI wonder, how to move out if VNF stuck in some error or other states08:09
dkushwahaIf we do not have intermediate states, there is no way to find out what is going on currently08:11
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dkushwahajoxyuki any comment on that?08:13
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joxyukiI agree with you, dkushwaha. But, in fact, there is no such intermediate states in ETSI standard.08:13
dkushwahais it?08:14
dkushwahaif so, I am ok with that. But keiko-k kindly re-verify the same.08:15
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dkushwahaI mean to re-verify from ETSI side08:15
joxyukino, ETSI statandard doesn't for now08:15
hyunsikyangHi all. I am late08:16
joxyukisorry, I meant ETSI standard v2.6.1.08:16
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joxyukiplease check latest version, keiko-k.08:16
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joxyukihi, hyunsikyang08:17
dkushwahahello hyunsikyang08:17
keiko-kjoxyuki Okay08:18
dkushwahakeiko-k, once you verify, please comment on spec. If no support in ETSI, I will merge the spec08:18
keiko-kdkushwaha Got it. I will make a comments on spec after checking ETSI document.08:19
hyunsikyangKeiko-/  check my comment too.08:20
keiko-khyunsikyang yes. Thanks for reviewing it. I will fix the spec and upload it.08:20
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dkushwahajoxyuki, something from you?08:22
joxyukithanks for your comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705611/08:23
joxyukiI will upload new patch soon.08:23
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dkushwahajoxyuki Thanks08:24
keiko-kCould you review my spec https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693121/ ?08:25
dkushwahakeiko-k sure08:27
dkushwahadoes it have dependencies on  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/591866/ ?08:27
dkushwahaI see08:28
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dkushwahakeiko-k, As of now I doesn't have comments on that spec, although my approach was to go through with indirect mode ass we had discussed in PTG. But ok, I will check it again08:30
hyunsikyangI think so. align Tacker with ETIS spec is good approche. BUT, we need deep discussion for that. If we can make a long plan for it, it also good:)08:32
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dkushwahajoxyuki needs your help to review  https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693121/08:34
joxyukiYes, it is in my list.08:35
dkushwahamoving next..08:35
dkushwahaI have nothing from my side08:36
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hyunsikyangI have two things.08:37
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hyunsikyangBTW, Welcomeback dkushwaha08:37
hyunsikyangone is this. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677866/08:37
dkushwahahyunsikyang Thanks :)08:37
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hyunsikyangthis one already finished review. I hope that it will merge soon.08:37
hyunsikyangAnother one is this. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674761/08:38
hyunsikyangPlease check it!08:39
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dkushwahahyunsikyang ok. I will review it08:39
hyunsikyangThanks. After finish it, we will move next topic:)08:40
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dkushwahaI hope, will do it by tomorrow08:41
hyunsikyangNothing from my side anymore!08:43
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dkushwahatakahashi-tsc joxyuki do we have anything else to discuss?08:44
takahashi-tsc1 from my side, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700167/08:44
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takahashi-tscThanks for review, everyone said all conditions should be in "condition:" block, so I'll put event_type value in the block.08:47
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takahashi-tsc        type: tosca.policies.tacker.EventAlarming        triggers:            vdu1_event_healing:                event_type:                    type: tosca.events.vdu                    implementation: ceilometer                condition:                    description: VM delete                    resource_type: instance08:48
takahashi-tscevent_type: compute.instance.delete.end                metadata: VDU1                action: [vdu_autoheal]08:48
takahashi-tsc        type: tosca.policies.tacker.EventAlarming        triggers:            vdu1_event_healing:                event_type:                    type: tosca.events.vdu                    implementation: ceilometer                condition:                    constraint: VM delete                    resource_type: instance08:48
takahashi-tscevent_type: compute.instance.delete.end                metadata: VDU1                action: [vdu_autoheal]08:48
takahashi-tscSorry... anyway, I put "event_type: compute.instance.delete.end" in condition: block.08:50
dkushwahaits difficult to see the changes here, could you please share in pastbin08:50
dkushwahatakahashi-tsc why to put it in condition ?08:51
dkushwahaplease see https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/484c05a898da0392680d2a55a3f33f4fcbacddfd/samples/tosca-templates/vnfd/tosca-vnfd-alarm-scale.yaml#L5908:51
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takahashi-tscFor EventAlarm, event_type is just value.08:52
takahashi-tscI think event_type is condition in this case.08:53
dkushwahaI didn't get it, might be I am missing something here08:54
takahashi-tscIn the case of MetricAlarm, we should specify threshold, aggregation_method and so on, and they are translated to Alarm properties.08:57
takahashi-tscIn event case, event_type is just alarmproperties, so I think event_type should be condition in TOSCA.08:58
joxyukiThen, what do you plan to specify in event_type?08:59
takahashi-tsc condition:09:00
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joxyukino, I mean, don't you use event_type?09:01
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dkushwahatime guys.09:01
dkushwahacloseing this meeting.09:02
takahashi-tscSorry... I write my opinion on opendev...09:02
dkushwahatakahashi-tsc thanks09:02
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dkushwahathanks all09:02
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ralonsoh#startmeeting neutron_qos15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 25 15:00:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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ralonsohI don't think we are going to have too many attendants15:01
ralonsohI'll resume the past 2 weeks, just for the records15:01
ralonsoh#topic RFEs15:01
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ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/147652715:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard)15:01
ralonsohThe main developer is not going to continue working in this feature15:02
ralonsohall upstream patches has been stopped15:02
ralonsohand probably no code will be merged15:02
ralonsohI need to talk to other cores15:02
ralonsohbut makes no sense to have an API in neutron-lib or any DB change in Neutron if no service is going to read them15:03
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ralonsohanyway, thank you very much David for your work15:03
ralonsohnext one15:03
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/185861015:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1858610 in neutron "[RFE] Qos policy not supporting sharing bandwidth between several nics of the same vm." [Undecided,New]15:03
ralonsohlast week we have a discussion in drivers meeting (on Friday)15:04
ralonsohand we are waiting for a proposal (a spec)15:04
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ralonsohdescribing how this feature should be implemented (API, DB changes and backend implementation)15:04
ralonsohand of course, what backends could support it15:04
ralonsohnext section15:05
ralonsoh#topic Bugs15:05
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ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/185317115:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1853171 in neutron "Deprecate and remove any "ofctl" code in Neutron and related projects " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy)15:05
ralonsoh(I forgot to review lajos' patches)15:05
ralonsohthere some patches, related to this feature, submitted for neutron side projects15:06
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ralonsohI'll collect them and I'll log them in the etherpad of this meeting15:06
ralonsohnext one15:07
ralonsoh log them in the etherpad of this meeting15:07
ralonsoh#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/164852515:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1648525 in neutron "[OVN] QoS doesn't work with DVR, vlan tenant networks or provider networks." [Undecided,New]15:07
ralonsoha migrated bug from the OVN repo15:07
ralonsohonce QoS is working, we will assign time to solve this problem15:07
ralonsohfor now, the OVN QoS support is still not fully working15:08
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ralonsohand that's all for today15:08
ralonsohif some is lurking and has something to say, this is the moment15:08
ralonsohthank you very much and see you in two weeks15:09
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clarkbHello, anyone else here for the infra meeting? We'll get started shortly18:58
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clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 25 19:01:13 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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clarkb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-February/006602.html Our Agenda19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:02
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clarkbI'll be out tomorrow (going to try my hand at fishing) and then thursday morning I visit the tax man. Mostly just a heads up that like last week this week is a weird schedule for me. I'm trying to get stuff out of the way for next week (when i think fungi will not be around)19:03
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clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-02-18-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:03
clarkbThis didn't get recorded as a formal action, but I volunteered to write a spec for the pip and virtualenv python situation with our test images. I did do that so lets dive right into specs19:04
clarkb#topic Specs19:04
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clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709579/ Spec for cleaning up python dev tools on our CI images.19:04
clarkbThis comes with a variety of supporting documentation and changes. I'll post links for them in a sec19:04
corvusclarkb: thanks, i haven't had a chance to review it yet, but that looks very helpful19:04
clarkbIt would be great if those involved in untangling the virtualenv upgrade mess could read that over19:05
clarkbWhat I'd like to do is get it into shape then start passing it around with the constituent projects using the CI system19:05
clarkbbasically overcommunicate the chagne since it has potential to be a painful change. Though the plan is to make it as unnoticeable as possible19:05
clarkb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pTFF4U9Klz : clarkb writeup of major issues19:05
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/707499 : discussion in comments19:06
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/707513 : use venv for glean19:06
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/707750 : use venv in project-config elements; drop pip-and-virtualenv inclusion from element and move to individual configs; add node type with no pip-and-virtualenv.  this can be used for job testing.19:06
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clarkbwe should probably roughly agree to the plan in the spec before we start landing those early safer changes19:06
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clarkbI do think we can land the last two changes linked without buy in from users as the first is glean specific and the second does this in a testing capacity19:06
fungii hope it won't be as painful nor drawn-out as the migration off thick test images19:07
fungiseems likely to have less overall impact at least19:07
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clarkbI think the end result will be fewer surprises for test jobs as our nodes will act a bit more like the ones you get from centos and ubuntu19:08
ianw++ will go through today19:08
fungieven if it impacts more projects in total, it does so in more standardized ways we can work out solutions for19:08
clarkbI look forward to your feedback. Thank you19:09
clarkbThen we have coincidental overlap in the need for updating our simple 404 tracking (and website trackign in general). I had an afternoon with a couple foundation people where the subject came up and ianw had a change up to remove our script as it requires writing to afs volumes and complicates the files to static.o.o migration19:10
clarkbThis prompted me to look into options for tools around there. When I was debugging haproxy logs at one point I had hacked up a goaccess config to render graphs for me and it supports apache logs out of the bogx19:10
clarkbThis led to writing another different spec19:11
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709236/ Website activity stats19:11
fungiyeah, goaccess seems really promising. when i was looking into/testing solutions for this i didn't find it19:11
clarkbI think the key here is to agree on goals more so than specific technical details. For example are we all comfortable with publishing the stats planned there19:11
fungiit also serves as a great first test for our new opendev governing body19:12
clarkbianw has had good feedback for implementation ideas and I think we can edit the spec as necessary to reflect that. What I don't want to do is surprise anyone with public stats reporting that might be too generous (though I think the plan is quite conservative and should avoid any issues)19:12
corvusdid ianw push up a change to partially implement this?19:12
ianwin the mean time, if we'd like to restore the existing test and also do a little POC on zuul collecting these stats we have19:13
corvus(i thought i saw something like a change that logged into static.o.o and did something via a zuul job)19:13
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709382/19:13
clarkbcorvus: ya it basically takes our old 404 only reporter and adopts it to the newer hosting setup19:13
corvusah cool.  so that's that part of the process -- then if we like goaccess, we use that mechanism to run it?19:13
clarkbI think that is a good in between spot to avoid regressing on the 404 reporting functionality while we spin up the richer reporting19:13
clarkbcorvus: yup exactly. One of the things goaccess can do is 404 reporting19:14
clarkbcorvus: if you have time to review the spec it would be great to get your perspective with a zuul hat on19:15
corvuson it19:15
corvusi'm also going to wear my "don't share pii hat"19:15
fungii stapled that hat to my head already19:15
clarkbAnything else on specs or should we continue?19:16
fungimuch of the plan there is a result of discussions we had in #openstack-infra about things we shouldn't report because of that19:16
clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:17
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clarkb#topic OpenDev19:17
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clarkbThe openstack governance change has four TC Acks. I think we need 3 more votes in order to land that19:17
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clarkbdon't be surprised if that lands in the near future :)19:18
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clarkbOn the gitea side of things mordred has a change up to upgrade to 1.11.119:18
clarkbit is currently failing testing, I haven't had a chance to look at why yet though19:18
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705807/ Upgrade Gitea to 1.11.119:18
clarkbI did go through the release notes and called out a couple that I thought might impact us but on further investigation we should be fine (details in a comment on the change)19:18
mordredclarkb: I set up an autohold19:19
mordredbecause I can't tell from logs19:19
mordredhopefully I'll both figure it out - and figure out how to make it possible to figure out from logs :)19:19
clarkbGEtting to 1.11 will be our stepping stone to 1.12 which has the git commit cache support19:19
clarkbwe should probably consider deploying 1.12 pre release, but we can figure that out once on 1.1119:20
fungiand that's what we hope will significantly speed up ui rendering for large repos?19:20
clarkbfungi: yes19:20
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clarkbAnything else on OpenDev?19:21
clarkb#topic Update Config Management19:22
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clarkbmordred: I believe there has been a slight change of direction in the way we build gerrit images. Want to fill us in?19:22
mordredyeah - so - the previous way was based on a bazel builder image19:23
mordredso that we could make an image that had things like bazel and java and whatnot pre-installed and just focus on building gerrit19:23
mordredUNFORTUNATELY - bazel is still a quick moving target, so the gerrit folks have a .bazelversion file in repo that contols which verison of bazel should be used - and we were constantly chasing job breakage when the file would not match our buiklder image version19:24
mordredso instead we're now using copies of roles corvus wrote for upstream gerrit which does the build on the build node using bazelisk - which installs the right version of bazel19:24
mordredand then the dockerfile just copies in the war file built from that19:24
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mordredshould be more future proof - as well as handling different bazel versions across different branches19:24
clarkbThe biggest impact to us as individuals is we'll have to do the bazelisk pre step if building the images locally19:25
mordredbut that honestly doesn't happen super often19:25
clarkbmordred: did those chagnes land? put another way are there things that need review?19:25
corvusyeah.  we could move that into a docker image build, but there'd be less direct upstream role reuse (but they're not that complicated so maybe it's not a big deal)19:25
fungibut also we're better aligned with how gerrit builds gerrit?19:25
mordredalso - change up to add 3.1 to the list of gerrits we build19:25
mordredclarkb: the changes other than 3.1 landed19:26
corvusin general, i'm in favor of going with the hybrid approach mordred has up now, and moving stuff into containers if we feel we need it.19:26
mordredcorvus: ++19:26
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709295/ Build a Gerrit 3.1 docker image19:26
corvusfungi: it's a little hard for me to say how "gerrit builds gerrit"19:27
clarkbany other config management updates to call out?19:27
mordredoh - fwiw...19:28
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corvusfor some values of that (ie, how a dev might expect to build it on their workstation) i'd say yes.  for other values (how they build release artifacts, container images, etc), i'd say this is different, but that we don't want to emulate that due to the high amount of gerritforce-ci-specific stuff involved.19:28
mordredwe found an issue with LE certs and review.opendev.org today that isn't super important but thought I'd mention the root cause ...19:28
fungicorvus: ahh, thanks for the clarification19:28
mordredwe weren't making the LE certs for review.o.o that we thought we were (we're not using them yet, so no biggie)19:28
clarkbmordred: note I think it may still be haivng problems (needs further investigating)19:28
fungioh, this was probably more for the opendev topic, but new gerrit talk reminded me, i pushed up a change to opendevify the welcome new contributor message:19:28
fungi#link https://review.opendev.org/708975 Overhaul default welcome message for OpenDev19:28
mordredand the reason is that we had host_vars in ansible for review01.opendev.org ... but the host is review01.openstack.org19:29
mordredjust to keep in mind as we work on things in the future19:29
mordredclarkb: nod19:29
corvusmordred: lesson learned: transitions are hard?19:29
clarkbdotting all the Ts and crossing all the Is is hard19:30
mordredclarkb: yah. as are names19:30
clarkb#topic General Topics19:30
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clarkbttx: did you want to start us off with the xwiki item?19:30
ttxSure. Hi!19:30
ttxAs you may know we've had demand for wiki space from a number of projects19:30
ttxSo far our response has been to ask them to squat on wiki.openstack.org19:31
ttxBut that is not a long-term solution. And we don't really want to set up more Mediawikis either.19:31
ttxSo I've been looking into open source wiki solutions that:19:31
ttx- would have limited maintenance costs, like stronger spam prevention features19:31
ttx- would have more of a "structured wiki" approach, to limit stale pages19:31
ttx- would be pluggable into openstackID to avoid maintaining a new set of credentials (or increase our UbuntuOne tech debt).19:31
ttxI've experimented with XWiki (see xwiki.org) and found it satisfactory.19:31
ttx(or at least as satisfactory as a wiki can be)19:32
ttxIt's an open source solution, and the fine folks at XWiki.com offer free hosting on their "Xwiki cloud" for open source projects.19:32
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ttxIt allows for "subwikis", which are basically wikis with a root document and search context which live under the same main wiki domain19:32
ttxMy current thinking is to take them up on their hosting offer, set up the main wiki under wiki.opendev.org, and experiment with a subwiki for the "Open Infra Labs" initiative19:32
ttxIf that experiment works well, we would extend the possibility of a subwiki for other projects.19:33
ttxIf it works *really* well, we could envision to transition wiki.openstack.org content and finally abandon Mediawiki maintenance.19:33
ttxAnd if it works *too* well and we get past the open source offer hosting limits (10 subwikis) then we could always look at hosting a Xwiki instance ourselves.19:33
ttxYou can see a demo at: https://opendevwiki.demo.xwiki.com/19:33
ttxYou can log in at the topright corner19:33
mordredttx: the subwikis would be subdomains of opendev.org ?19:34
ttxOpendev gets the wiki at the top level, which is used to list the subwikis, but could also be used to describe more of Opendev if you want.19:34
fungii wonder how this relates to discussions we've had about possibly leveraging the github-wiki-like feature in gitea19:34
ttxno, more of a subdirectory19:34
ttxBut it looks like the root of a wiki. So if you search within a subwiki, it looks for local results19:34
mordredttx: nod. but still contained within the wiki.opendev.org domain19:34
ttxEach subwiki can have a different theme and panels, which I tried to show in the demo.19:34
ttxThe demo has superlong URLs but I suspect they can collapse that a bit19:35
mordredfungi: so far the github-wiki-like things in gitea seem to assume people need commit access to the git repo to make wiki changes - last I checked19:35
clarkboperationally I think it would run similarly to gerrit (its a monolithic java app with a db connection)19:35
clarkbif we end up needing to run it ourselves19:35
fungimordred: yeah, and is tied to specific repos i guess19:35
ttxhttps://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/ContentOrganization/ explains subwikis vs. nested pages19:35
ttxShould we pursue this, I volunteer to conduct the experiment19:35
mordredI would be more than happy to not run a wiki19:36
ttxThey agreed to allow us to use a custom domain, which would make transitioning in the future a lot easier19:36
fungiit also touches on uor still as-of-yet unresolved need for an opendev sso19:36
ttxbut yes, if the hosting works for us, I'd rather continue to have them run it19:36
mordredfungi: yeah. that's the biggest issue I can think of19:36
ttxand encourage them to have a successfl wiki hosting business rather than continue developing "Pro" plugins19:36
corvusfwiw, i didn't know about either the demand for wikis, or the openinfra labs project; hopefully with the new opendev governance model we can improve those communication channels19:36
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ttxcorvus: we had Airship and StarlingX ask for wikis, we just redirected them to wiki.openstack.org19:37
fungimost of the "demand for wikis" is that every time we say we're going to wind down wiki.openstack.org we get a lot of folks jumping up and down saying we can't take it away because they have no good alternative19:37
ttxOpenInfraLabs is the new name for the Massachussets Open Cloud, extended beyond MA19:38
corvusoh neat19:38
mordredttx: fungi's thing is the main thing I'd be worried about that I think we'd need to come up with an answer for19:38
corvusmordred: auth?19:38
ttxIt's new, but one of the first things they asked for wasa wiki (don't ask me why, I hate wikis)19:38
corvusbecause in a hosted system, transitioning auth would be difficult/impossible?19:38
mordredcorvus: or someone else's problem we can just throw money at? :)19:39
clarkbttx: is it possible to allow arbitrary sso? so that users can choose what identity they log in with (github/openstackid/ubuntuone/etc)19:39
clarkbthat might be a reasonable intermediate step? That assumes people don't want to tie wiki edits back to CCLA or similar19:39
corvusmordred: yeah, a few possibilites there, and knowing the answers before we start would be good19:40
ttxclarkb: Not 100% sure.19:40
mordredcorvus: or - at least list that slving that is likely to be step 019:40
ttxBy default when unconfigured it allows people to provide a OID URL in an ugly form19:40
ttxBut once configured it just forwards to openstackID very nicely19:40
corvusdepending on the answer, maybe we can proceed full steam ahead and clean up auth later, or maybe we have to implement the opendev multiplexer first19:41
mordredI'd be happy to say "yeah, let's go for it, must solve auth"19:41
mordredcorvus: yeah19:41
ttxI'm not super-concerned with migrating the few users we'll have in the PoC19:41
fungiif there's sufficient admin-level access to dump the equivalent of the user auth ids, group memberships and acls, then we can in theory punt on that19:42
mordredttx: so we believe our xwiki friends can migrate a set of users for us should we need such a thing to be done?19:42
mordredor fungi's thing19:42
corvusgood point. i don't think it has to block poc, but we should explore the question during the poc and have an answer before prod19:42
clarkbcorvus: ++19:42
ttxmordred: I think we can also live with users being duplicated during transition19:42
corvusyeah, that's a valid answer too :)19:43
mordredyeah. I mean - also - it'sa . wiki, so it's not like it needs tight auth integration with anything else we do19:43
fungiprobably the biggest question for opendev is whether we're okay with the opendev name attached to that hosted service... i see this as the same question for the hosted zanata replacement we've been discussing as well19:43
ttxI mean, they have been helpful so far, but the "open source offer" comes with minimal support19:43
fungii read that as "we'll host this for you and even offer some support"19:43
fungiwhich sounds a lot better than no support19:44
ttxbut I'm trying to pay them back with logos and user studies, so maybe they will be happy with us. I know when the OSI calls them they are VERY helpful19:44
ttx(OSI being another xwiki cloud user)19:44
mordredyeah- we'd be a pretty high profile user for them19:44
ttxIt's more a "no guarantee" offer than a "no help"19:45
corvusi also like that hosting it on a custom subdomain means we can be in control of a migration (which might even be seamless).  i think that's an important point.  also a question to explore during the poc is what a migration to self-hosting would look like (exploring data exports, etc)19:45
clarkbas a time check we have several more topisc to get through (we should probably get to them when we have 10 minutes remaining)19:45
ttxcorvus: yes, I would not have considered it if they said custom domain was not a possibility19:45
fungiand the xwiki project is under the ow2 consortium, who have been great friends to openstack in the past19:45
mordredanother question for POC - SSL19:45
corvusmordred: ++19:46
fungiyeah, i'm cool saying go forth and poc19:46
clarkbI wonder if we can point an acme record at them and then they LE19:46
clarkbbut definitely somethign to check on19:46
ttxNot sure what they will ask on that. Did not want to go any further without your blessing19:46
corvusttx: can you write up a spec with questions for the poc period?19:46
corvusdon't block on the spec19:46
ttxIf you say "OK" we'll tread carefully19:46
fungiit can be a very short spec, probably19:46
ianwthey can probably do the file/webserver based auth for LE?19:46
corvusmore of a place where we can collect questions, answers, and develop plans for if we go to prod19:47
clarkbianw: ah yup19:47
ttxok, open questions on the poc19:47
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ttxnot sure what LE is19:47
clarkbttx: letsencrypt19:47
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ttxI'll stop hijacking the meeting :)19:48
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fungithanks ttx!19:49
corvuscan we agree on action items for 1) start the poc; 2) start a spec to collect feedback?19:49
ttxaction me on a spec, and get them to set up the instance, coordinate with clarkb on getting SSL done19:49
clarkb#action ttx write xwiki spec to capture POC questions19:49
fungii agree on 1&2, yes19:49
clarkb#agreed ok for ttx to proceed with xwiki POC while we review the spec19:50
corvusttx: yay thanks!19:50
clarkbNext up is a note that I did request space at the vancouver PTG. It sounded like we'd have ~3.5 people there and that worked out in shanghai pretty well. I think my goal will be to have some official time and space as that allows others to find us easily then we can organize in a more ad hoc fashion for the other times which worked out in shanghai.19:50
ttxthanks all!19:50
clarkbIf you'll be in vancouver feel free to find us!19:51
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fungii'll wear something bright19:51
ttxyou always wear somethign bright19:51
clarkbI expect the weather will be excellent when we are there so maybe we can do something fun as a group too19:52
clarkbfungi: any progress with the existing wiki server management?19:52
clarkb(speaking of wikis)19:52
fungiclarkb: nope, nope, nopeski19:52
clarkbAnd that takes us to the files.openstack.org and static.openstack.org migration to static.opendev.org19:52
clarkbianw: I think docs.opendev.org is the last remaining proper site then we have to add redirects?19:53
clarkblink https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709402/1 Move docs.opendev.org to static.opendev.org19:53
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709402/1 Move docs.opendev.org to static.opendev.org19:53
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ianwyes, that docs one should be quick19:54
clarkbianw: AJaeger and everyone else that helped: Thank you for pushing this along19:54
ianwthere's a few things open19:54
ianwfiles.openstack.org got caught up in this too, so we might as well push on moving that too.  the only thing remaining there is the git redirectors, which have a change to migrate up19:54
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:static-services Finish up static.openstack.org migration19:55
fungialso we figured out yesterday that we're not providing backward-compatible redirects for projects outside the openstack namespace. i meant to try and find more of those besides osf/openstackid but haven't tried to match up the lists yet19:55
ianwwe've discussed it before, but i'm not sure the idea of the service load balancer is getting traction, the reviews have been there for several months19:55
fungifor tarballs.o.o redirects i mean19:55
ianwif we want to just punt on it and move it into apache config, i don't mind19:56
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clarkbianw: I expect that is fungi's preference. I think I've largely been convinced that apache would be fine particularly since we don't have to juggle ssl19:56
fungimy only real objection to the haproxy idea is that we're already running apache on the servers we'd be redirecting to, so could accomplish the same with some aliases in existing vhost configs19:57
ianwit's certainly simpler, and we can save the haproxy setup for something when we need more of the load-balancing features19:57
fungiand one less service to manage if apache is already required either way19:57
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clarkbAnd we are just about at time19:58
fungii mean, i think using haproxy for redirects is probably a fine solution and would work19:58
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:58
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clarkbI'll open the floor if there is anything else in the last minute19:58
ianwok, i'll work up a change to put them in apache, i'm not really fussed i just want it finished now :)19:58
clarkb++ to finishing19:59
fungithanks ianw!19:59
clarkbAnd that is all we had time for. Thank you everyone.20:00
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fungithanks clarkb!20:00
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