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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 5 14:00:11 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| lyarwood | \o | 14:00 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| * johnthetubaguy lurks | 14:01 | |
| brinzhang | \o | 14:01 |
| efried | let's get started and let folks trickle in | 14:02 |
| efried | #topic Last meeting | 14:02 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-02-27-21.00.html | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| efried | I was alone there, so I'll again go over... | 14:03 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-02-20-14.00.html | 14:03 |
| efried | ACTION: efried unblock and +W the support-volume-local-cache spec after the meeting https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689070/ | 14:03 |
| efried | Done | 14:03 |
| efried | ACTION: efried to fup with lyarwood about rocky EM | 14:03 |
| efried | See Release Planning below | 14:03 |
| efried | ACTION: efried to look at the nova PTL guide and update if/as appropriate | 14:03 |
| efried | #link Nova PTL guide https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/ptl-guide.html | 14:03 |
| efried | I did that ^, it looked okay to me as is | 14:03 |
| efried | sfe fup: destroy-instance-with-datavolume http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012616.html | 14:03 |
| efried | Done (approved) | 14:03 |
| efried | anybody have other old business to bring up? | 14:04 |
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| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:04 |
| efried | No Critical bugs | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| brinzhang | efried: I have pushed this code, need to review | 14:04 |
| brinzhang | destroy-instance-with-datavolum | 14:04 |
| * lyarwood has it open to review | 14:04 | |
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| lyarwood | note there's about 4 of us trying to land on the 2.83 microversion at the moment | 14:05 |
| efried | um | 14:05 |
| lyarwood | nothing new, just wanted to note that things much get messy | 14:05 |
| lyarwood | might* | 14:05 |
| brinzhang | yes, 4 feature need add a microversion | 14:05 |
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| * gmann in tc meeting going in parallel | 14:05 | |
| johnthetubaguy | we handed out microversions in the past, and linked with depends-on, is that worth doing? | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | problem is picking the order | 14:06 |
| efried | okay, I thought https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692707/ was 2.83 already, but it's 2.82. Carry on. | 14:06 |
| efried | johnthetubaguy: If the patches are ready, that sounds doable. | 14:06 |
| brinzhang | yes, nova-cyborg-interaction feature was already get v2.82 | 14:07 |
| brinzhang | efried: agree | 14:07 |
| efried | johnthetubaguy: someone would have to coordinate though (hint: it won't be me) | 14:07 |
| efried | otherwise, we must carry on in gold-rush fashion. | 14:08 |
| * johnthetubaguy nods, and looks busy | 14:08 | |
| brinzhang | The policy defaut refresh patch need more works on | 14:08 |
| efried | Back to bugs... | 14:08 |
| efried | I'll note that our new/untriaged count leveled off since last time, but it's still way high (108) | 14:09 |
| efried | #link 108 new untriaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:09 |
| efried | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 14:09 |
| efried | #help need help with bug triage | 14:09 |
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| efried | #topic Release Planning | 14:09 |
| efried | Rocky EM (lyarwood) | 14:09 |
| efried | #link nova EM patch is merged https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709902/ | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| efried | Thanks for driving that lyarwood | 14:09 |
| lyarwood | well thanks to you and elod for doing most of the work :) | 14:10 |
| efried | We're in the release phase where we should be working features, and... | 14:10 |
| efried | #topic PTG/Summit planning | 14:10 |
| efried | Please mark attendance and topics on | 14:10 |
| efried | #link PTG etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-victoria-ptg | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG/Summit planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:11 | |
| efried | Any comments on release or PTG/summit planning? | 14:11 |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:11 |
| efried | Placement (tetsuro) | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:11 | |
| efried | It looks like melwitt and tetsuro are iterating on the consumer types feature. | 14:11 |
| efried | No other news that I'm aware of here. | 14:12 |
| efried | API (gmann) | 14:12 |
| efried | API related BP coding in progress. Other than that not so much change this week. Most of the things are covered in spec/features approval work. | 14:12 |
| efried | Last week update: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012563.html | 14:12 |
| efried | (note, I think that ^ is last-last week's update) | 14:12 |
| gmann | sorry i did not update the status for this week | 14:12 |
| efried | sokay, we're operating on a 2-week deficit anyway | 14:12 |
| efried | has anything changed since then gmann? | 14:13 |
| gmann | one update on policy stuff is johnthetubaguy and myself discussing on few more test cases to cover more on admin_or_owner side | 14:13 |
| brinzhang | gmann: Support re-configure deleted_on_termination in server this BP code is ready ^^ | 14:13 |
| gmann | brinzhang: thanks i will check today. | 14:13 |
| brinzhang | gmann: np | 14:13 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:14 |
| efried | Any? | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:14 | |
| alistarle | Hi, do you know what is missing on this patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/701609 ? I heard about some microversion conflicts, so I can bump it if needed | 14:14 |
| brinzhang | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709955/2 | 14:14 |
| efried | alistarle: at a glance, the patch is currently in merge conflict | 14:14 |
| efried | alistarle: do you know how to fix that? | 14:15 |
| brinzhang | These patches are ready to review, link is the first one https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709955/2 | 14:15 |
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| lyarwood | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:workaround_native_luksv1 & https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:rbd_block_device - I'm trying to introduce some workaround options for a libgcrypt perf issue impacting native LUKS decryption. I'm not sure if this needs a bug, specless BP or full blown spec next cycle tbh. | 14:15 |
| lyarwood | ^ any suggestions welcome, I can also take this to the ML. | 14:16 |
| lyarwood | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bug/1861071 - and another encryption related bugfix series could use reviews if anyone aside from stephenfin has time. | 14:16 |
| alistarle | Yeah I saw that, it was not there when I look at it some days ago | 14:16 |
| efried | alistarle: other than that, I'm afraid slow reviewer response is just par for the course, given code volume : maintainer ratio. But you can bug folks for reviews in #openstack-nova periodically :) | 14:17 |
| brinzhang | johnthetubaguy, gmann: with the os-instance-actions poliy change, I modified the unit/policies/base.py, hope you can reivew https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707777/5/nova/tests/unit/policies/base.py | 14:17 |
| efried | alistarle: oh, the conflict will be the patch I mentioned earlier: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692707/ got microversion 2.82 already. | 14:17 |
| brinzhang | That we can get the api response to assert what we want while fatal=False. | 14:18 |
| efried | alistarle: so you'll have to rebase and bump your microversion to 2.83 -- whereupon you'll be entering the race with several other patches wanting the same one :/ | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | brinzhang: cool, thank you, I will try review that again soon | 14:18 |
| brinzhang | johnthetubaguy> thanks | 14:19 |
| alistarle | efried: Ok, let's compete for this race then ;) I will refactor the patch | 14:19 |
| efried | Cool. | 14:19 |
| efried | Let's move on. | 14:19 |
| efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:19 |
| efried | [efried] Exiting OpenStack | 14:19 |
| efried | #help PTL pro tem needed | 14:19 |
| efried | #link call for volunteers http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012663.html | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| efried | Tomorrow is my last official day | 14:19 |
| efried | however, I'm supposedly on vacation | 14:19 |
| efried | so basically already gone. | 14:20 |
| tframbo | Excuse me, I have a question about the flavor. The property "OS-FLV-DISABLED:disabled" defined when we created the flavor, but there is no method to change this property.I want to know our community how to consider this condition. | 14:20 |
| tframbo | https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=list-migrations-detail,id320-detail,update-flavor-description-detail,create-flavor-detail#create-flavor | 14:20 |
| efried | tframbo: hold on a bit please | 14:20 |
| brinzhang | efried: Because of the new crown virus, please take good protection, if possible, try not to go out. | 14:20 |
| efried | I will be f'real taking today and tomorrow off, at least partially. | 14:20 |
| efried | brinzhang: Thanks for your concern. I'm not worried about exposure here. | 14:21 |
| brinzhang | efried: ah, good luck ^^ | 14:21 |
| efried | After this week, I'll probably still hang around on IRC a bit, but will be unlikely to be doing a whole lot. | 14:22 |
| efried | A couple of folks have talked to me privately about taking over the PTL role. | 14:22 |
| efried | But nothing has solidified as yet. | 14:22 |
| efried | So we at least need someone to run next week's meeting. | 14:23 |
| gmann | FYI, PTL election will be on April 7th-14th | 14:23 |
| gmann | https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 14:23 |
| efried | Given recent attendance at the 2100UTC meetings, I would also suggest trying to move & consolidate our meeting times. | 14:24 |
| brinzhang | gibi, stephenfin, alex_xu, lyarwood? | 14:24 |
| lyarwood | brinzhang: I'm expecting to be out on paternity sometime soon otherwise I would sorry. | 14:24 |
| stephenfin | I'd never be able to attend the 2100 UTC meeting, unfortunately | 14:25 |
| brinzhang | lyarwood: congratulations! | 14:25 |
| efried | If we made it 1600 UTC every week, that would allow folks from US Pacific through Euro to attend during business hours. | 14:25 |
| brinzhang | That time is too early for alex_xu and me. | 14:25 |
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| stephenfin | but I could run the other one if gibi really can't (since he's run meetings in the past :)) | 14:26 |
| stephenfin | 1600 UTC wfm also | 14:26 |
| efried | I'm not going to try to pull the trigger on this schedule change, just making a suggestion. | 14:26 |
| brinzhang | 1600UTC too later for US in China | 14:26 |
| efried | gibi has volunteered to run the early meetings regardless of PTL-ship | 14:27 |
| brinzhang | s/US/us | 14:27 |
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| efried | okay brinzhang. Problem is that the current time is way too early for west coast US like dansmith and melwitt | 14:27 |
| efried | (less so after DST is over) | 14:27 |
| efried | anyway, I'll just leave that on the table and let my posterity sort it out. | 14:28 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: are you taking that? | 14:28 |
| stephenfin | taking what? | 14:29 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: moving the meeting, running the next one etc. | 14:29 |
| stephenfin | <efried> gibi has volunteered to run the early meetings regardless of PTL-ship | 14:29 |
| brinzhang | efried: Yeah, everyone has the different time to attend meeting, too later or earlier .. | 14:29 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: ah sorry | 14:29 |
| efried | stephenfin: but next week's is a 'late' meeting. | 14:29 |
| stephenfin | Ah, yeah, I can't do those. Thursday's are date night :( | 14:30 |
| stephenfin | *Thursdays | 14:30 |
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| efried | I could probably just cancel it. Attendance has been very light there anyway. | 14:30 |
| lyarwood | stephenfin: but you need a date for that to be an issue right? | 14:30 |
| efried | ouch | 14:30 |
| stephenfin | lyarwood: alcohol, my good man. | 14:31 |
| lyarwood | haha | 14:31 |
| * efried celebrates 23y of marriage this year. Every night is date night. | 14:31 | |
| brinzhang | cool, alcohol | 14:31 |
| efried | so, I'll cancel it, and if someone can run it, they can resurrect it. | 14:32 |
| efried | moving on. | 14:32 |
| gmann | efried: wow, congrat! | 14:32 |
| efried | :) thanks | 14:32 |
| efried | [shilpasd] Ignore root_gb if instance is booted from volume | 14:32 |
| efried | Help to finalize approaches suggested by Dan Smith https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694462/8/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.py@2008 | 14:32 |
| efried | IMO option #1 is more performance efficient with less code changes. | 14:32 |
| efried | shilpasd: you around? | 14:32 |
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| shilpasd | yes | 14:33 |
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| shilpasd | Alex voted for option2 | 14:33 |
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| shilpasd | I think Dan also prefer option2 | 14:34 |
| shilpasd | option1 suggests to have extra column at instances table | 14:34 |
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| shilpasd | option2 suggests to modify instance query itself to join BDMS | 14:35 |
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| efried | Without dansmith and alex_xu here to discuss, is there a way to make progress? | 14:35 |
| efried | perhaps asking stephenfin or lyarwood to weigh in? | 14:36 |
| efried | (on the review) | 14:36 |
| shilpasd | yes please | 14:36 |
| lyarwood | efried: ack can do, option #2 does appear the way to go at first glance. | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | FWIW, option 1 sounds like caching, which always turns out to be hard to get right, option 2 seems OK | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yeah, its just a first glance | 14:37 |
| efried | shilpasd: were you the only one advocating for option 1? | 14:38 |
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| shilpasd | ya, option1 performance efficient with less code changes. | 14:38 |
| efried | okay, but it sounds like everyone else (including several cores) prefers option 2, so.... | 14:39 |
| shilpasd | for option2, instance query is at many places | 14:39 |
| efried | I don't have context on the change, but surely there's a way to make it so you don't have to touch every instance query | 14:40 |
| efried | we have code paths where we build up bits of SQL conditionally based on what's requested. | 14:41 |
| shilpasd | so suggesting to touch where simple tenant usage api referring | 14:41 |
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| efried | and certainly we have responses pared down to just what's necessary, where necessary. | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | while we are talking about the API change, alex_xu noted that it is a big behaviour change, so needs a microversion and a spec | 14:41 |
| shilpasd | patch is to address https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1715570 | 14:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1715570 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "simple tenant usage api calculating disk usages incorrectly" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd) | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | while it is a bug, its still an API behaviour change, so needs a microversion | 14:42 |
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| shilpasd | agree on microversion, but do we need spec? | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | some people rely on the hold behaviour, no matter how nuts it might seem | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/hold/old/ | 14:43 |
| shilpasd | and still its a bug | 14:43 |
| efried | traditionally, any API change requires a spec | 14:43 |
| gmann | yeah, API change need spec | 14:43 |
| brinzhang | agree, add a spec for this change | 14:44 |
| efried | and procedurally, that means it won't land this release. | 14:44 |
| efried | unless rules are bent. | 14:44 |
| shilpasd | ok | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | bugs can be a good excuse for a spec freeze exemption, but agreed with the above | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | for context: any API change that is merged has to be maintained for all time, so its good to make sure we make the correct change to the API | 14:45 |
| efried | I'll just leave this here | 14:45 |
| efried | https://www.grin.com/document/284052 | 14:45 |
| efried | but yeah, bug fix for granting freeze exception wfm | 14:46 |
| efried | Have we landed on this? Moving on? | 14:46 |
| shilpasd | one more help needed | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | this API call usually takes out the database anyway, so shrugs | 14:46 |
| shilpasd | i have one question asked here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694463/8/nova/objects/instance.py@102 | 14:47 |
| shilpasd | Dan suggested to have extra column to be part of '_INSTANCE_OPTIONAL_JOINED_FIELDS' | 14:47 |
| shilpasd | but getting ArgumentError, so moved to '_INSTANCE_OPTIONAL_NON_COLUMN_FIELDS' | 14:48 |
| shilpasd | so is it correct understanding? | 14:48 |
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| shilpasd | i am adding one column 'is_volume_backed' which don't translate to db columns | 14:48 |
| dansmith | shilpasd: just like several other fields there, you can still handle that field specially at the database instead of letting it go straight into the join | 14:48 |
| shilpasd | dansmith: ya, that understood, and that's the you suggesting as option2 | 14:49 |
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| dansmith | shilpasd: please go look at how system_metadata or metadata, or others are handled to go into the optional_join_fields set, yet they don't get joined directly as a column in the final query | 14:50 |
| dansmith | which is what you're trying to do *currently* and why you don't need a new bespoke field set parameter | 14:51 |
| efried | We're short on time and have one more topic. shilpasd/dansmith can you continue in -nova or the review? | 14:52 |
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| efried | tframbo: you had a question about a DISABLED flavor property? | 14:52 |
| tframbo | yeah | 14:52 |
| shilpasd | dansmith: ok, will check it and get back to you , thnaks | 14:53 |
| shilpasd | So listing here action items, Dansmith please confirm | 14:54 |
| tframbo | The property "OS-FLV-DISABLED:disabled" defined when we created the flavor, but there is no method to change this property.I want to know our community how to consider this condition. | 14:54 |
| efried | that's the key, right? | 14:54 |
| efried | the value is a bool (true/false)? | 14:54 |
| efried | So as admin you should be able to set that property via the flavor API, no? | 14:55 |
| tframbo | boolean | 14:55 |
| tframbo | yes | 14:55 |
| tframbo | we can't set it now | 14:56 |
| efried | openstack flavor set --property OS-FLV-DISABLED:disabled=true $flavor ? | 14:56 |
| efried | or something like that ^ | 14:56 |
| brinzhang | efried: OS-FLV-DISABLED:disabled is a column of flavor, not extra spec | 14:56 |
| dansmith | =false, but yes | 14:56 |
| brinzhang | it's default value is false | 14:57 |
| tframbo | we just allow modify the description about flavor | 14:57 |
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| efried | Let's continue this in #openstack-nova | 14:59 |
| efried | It sounds like it may just be a documentation issue | 14:59 |
| efried | So long, and thanks for all the fish. | 14:59 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 5 14:59:35 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-05-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-05-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2020/nova.2020-03-05-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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