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| ianw | tonyb: did the multiarch sync up end up moving at all? | 04:53 |
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| tonyb | ianw: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Multi-Arch_SIG_Meeting says 1700 in our TZ | 04:54 |
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| ianw | i'm guessing we might skip today? | 07:04 |
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| tonyb | ianw: I suppose so | 07:11 |
| tonyb | I'll hang around incase ricolin shows up at the old time | 07:12 |
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| ianw | yes i can check back in | 07:20 |
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| yasufum | hi | 08:04 |
| nitinuikey | Hi | 08:05 |
| tpatil | yasufum: Tacker meeting? | 08:05 |
| yasufum | yes | 08:05 |
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| yasufum | I have heard takahashi-san has some topics today | 08:06 |
| yasufum | hi, takahashi-san | 08:06 |
| keiko-k | hello | 08:06 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hello | 08:06 |
| hyunsikyang__ | Hi all | 08:06 |
| yasufum | could we start the meeting? | 08:06 |
| hyunsikyang__ | yes. | 08:06 |
| tpatil | yasufum: yes, please | 08:06 |
| yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 12 08:07:01 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:07 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:07 |
| hyunsikyang__ | Hi all again. | 08:07 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hello | 08:07 |
| yasufum | hi | 08:07 |
| Hiep_MQ | Hi | 08:07 |
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| JangwonLee__ | hi | 08:08 |
| yasufum | hi | 08:08 |
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| yasufum | I think there are two topics today from takahashi-san. | 08:10 |
| yasufum | is there any other topic? | 08:10 |
| tpatil | I have two more topics | 08:10 |
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| keiko-k | want to talk about vPTG for Victoria | 08:10 |
| tpatil | one is review request: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693290 | 08:10 |
| patchbot | patch 693290 - tacker - Support short notation for artifacts definition - 2 patch sets | 08:10 |
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| hyunsikyang__ | Yes. I also want to discuss about networking sfc | 08:11 |
| takahashi-tsc | Yes, my 1 topic is networking-sfc | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang__ | Good:) | 08:11 |
| tpatil | another: Functional tests are failing as default VIM is not registered. | 08:11 |
| takahashi-tsc | My another topic is about updating wiki | 08:12 |
| ueha | Hi all, nice to meet you. I'm Ayumu Ueha from Fujitsu. | 08:12 |
| ueha | I'm interested in Tacker and will be joining Tacker project. | 08:12 |
| ueha | Thank you! | 08:12 |
| yasufum | hi, nice to meet you | 08:12 |
| keiko-k | ueha hello, welcome in! | 08:13 |
| tpatil | ueho: Welcome!!! | 08:13 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hi, welcome to Tacker | 08:13 |
| hyunsikyang__ | welcome | 08:13 |
| yasufum | OK, totally 4 topics, networking-sfc, wiki, patches, and vPTG. | 08:14 |
| yasufum | Could you start from the 1st one? | 08:14 |
| takahashi-tsc | Before discussion , can we use etherpad tfor long-term discussion? | 08:14 |
| Liang | Hi there, this is Liang Lu from Fujitsu, same to ueha, I am also interesting in Tacker and NFV, and I am willing to join tacker project! | 08:14 |
| takahashi-tsc | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting | 08:14 |
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| keiko-k | Liang hello! welcome | 08:14 |
| takahashi-tsc | I think we can use etherpad freely, what do you think about using above etherpad? | 08:15 |
| yasufum | welcome Liang | 08:15 |
| tpatil | Liang: Welcome!!! | 08:15 |
| takahashi-tsc | Welcome! | 08:15 |
| hyunsikyang__ | welcome! | 08:16 |
| hyunsikyang__ | What is the first topic today? | 08:17 |
| yasufum | networking-sfc | 08:17 |
| hyunsikyang__ | Ok. takahashi, could you explain detail of networking sfc issue? | 08:18 |
| takahashi-tsc | OK, as I write in etherpad Neutron members look for networking-sfc's volunteer. | 08:18 |
| hyunsikyang__ | what feauter we are developing? | 08:20 |
| takahashi-tsc | I think Tacker use networking-sfc. So I want to know that anyone want to continue to use and maintain networking-sfc. | 08:20 |
| slaweq | hi | 08:20 |
| slaweq | I see You are talking about networking-sfc project | 08:20 |
| yasufum | hi | 08:20 |
| hyunsikyang__ | Hi | 08:20 |
| slaweq | in general the issue with this is that we almost don't have maintaners of it | 08:20 |
| slaweq | so neutron cores are doing their best to keep project more or less healthy | 08:21 |
| slaweq | but nothing else | 08:21 |
| hyunsikyang__ | humm.. last time, tacker use it for SFC in openstack, and also used it for ODL integration. | 08:21 |
| hyunsikyang__ | After that, we don't have any feature which is related with it. | 08:22 |
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| hyunsikyang__ | So, takahasi-tsc, They need someone to maintain it? | 08:23 |
| takahashi-tsc | I think Neutron want to know our opinion. If no one want to maintain sfc, we should tell it to Neutron members. | 08:24 |
| takahashi-tsc | Tacker team's opinion. | 08:24 |
| hyunsikyang__ | is it independant project now? | 08:24 |
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| hyunsikyang__ | humm. As a perspective of tacker, it needs for networing management. | 08:25 |
| takahashi-tsc | Now networking-sfc is sub project of Neutron, but if no one maintain, the project move out of Neutron. | 08:25 |
| hyunsikyang__ | what is the mean of 'the project move out of Neutron.'? | 08:26 |
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| hyunsikyang__ | just remove and remain the features? | 08:27 |
| hyunsikyang__ | So, It means that we should find new topic and do it.. right? | 08:27 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hmm... I do not know detailed mean of "move out"... | 08:29 |
| slaweq | it's exactly how takahashi-tsc said, if there will be nobody who wants to maintain it, we will probably deprecate it some day and move out of stadium | 08:29 |
| slaweq | so it then will be in x/ namespace | 08:29 |
| slaweq | as unofficial project | 08:29 |
| yasufum | I see | 08:30 |
| slaweq | but for now we didn't plan it (yet) for networking-sfc | 08:30 |
| yasufum | btw, is there any deadline for making our decision? | 08:30 |
| slaweq | we are doing something like that for neutron-fwaas currently | 08:30 |
| slaweq | yasufum: we don't have any strict deadlines | 08:30 |
| slaweq | but we will review list of stadium projects during Virtual PTG | 08:30 |
| hyunsikyang__ | OK. I also considered what is the best for it. Personally, I think it needs for tacker. | 08:31 |
| slaweq | and for sure we will first announce it on ML so You will have some time to do some actions if needed :) | 08:31 |
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| yasufum | OK. Unfortunately, it seems we have enough time today. We would like to continue the discussion in tacker IRC or etherpad. | 08:32 |
| yasufum | sorry, not enough time | 08:33 |
| hyunsikyang__ | OK. let's move to the second noe. | 08:33 |
| hyunsikyang__ | one | 08:33 |
| yasufum | slaweq, I would like to share our conclusion asap | 08:33 |
| yasufum | 2nd topic is about updating wiki, right? | 08:34 |
| yasufum | takahashi-san | 08:35 |
| takahashi-tsc | OK, it is simple proposal. can I update wiki as follows? and doyou have any other idea? | 08:35 |
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| takahashi-tsc | Meeting/Tacker Page every week, Add URL of important docs, Add URL of meeting etherpad page | 08:36 |
| takahashi-tsc | As I write on Etherpad | 08:36 |
| takahashi-tsc | I already start to update Meeting/Tacker agenda page every week. | 08:37 |
| hyunsikyang__ | and update member too:) | 08:37 |
| takahashi-tsc | Yes, I agree > members | 08:37 |
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| takahashi-tsc | If you have some idea, please write in etherpad. | 08:38 |
| yasufum | pls confirm about “current members”? | 08:38 |
| hyunsikyang__ | ok thanks. | 08:38 |
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| tpatil | Agree++ | 08:39 |
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| tpatil | Can we move to the next topic? | 08:41 |
| hyunsikyang__ | yes! | 08:41 |
| yasufum | sure | 08:42 |
| tpatil | Need review : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/693290 | 08:42 |
| patchbot | patch 693290 - tacker - Support short notation for artifacts definition - 2 patch sets | 08:42 |
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| tpatil | It's about adding support short notation | 08:42 |
| tpatil | Is it possible to merge it first in master and then back port it to stable/ussuri branch? | 08:43 |
| tpatil | I would like to know your opinion | 08:44 |
| yasufum | Sorry, this review was included in my TODO, but not yet. | 08:45 |
| yasufum | I agree to merge | 08:45 |
| yasufum | and do the review soon | 08:45 |
| tpatil | Ok, Thanks | 08:45 |
| tpatil | Second point I would like to discuss is about VIM registration by tacker devstack plugin | 08:46 |
| tpatil | This patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/722209/, fixes this problem partially | 08:46 |
| patchbot | patch 722209 - tacker - Fix create custom Mistral action (MERGED) - 6 patch sets | 08:46 |
| tpatil | but we still see the functional tests are failing on gate job | 08:46 |
| tpatil | My observation is, after devstack finishes OpenStack installation, I can register VIM successfully but somehow VIM0 is not set as default VIM by setup-default-vim role. I'm checking this problem. | 08:49 |
| tpatil | Just want to know if anyone else is also looking into this issue? | 08:49 |
| yasufum | I have not yet actually | 08:50 |
| yasufum | do you have any solution for the issue? | 08:50 |
| tpatil | Not yet, checking the logs and trying to find out the cause. It appears that default vim is already registered so it's not allowing VIM0 to be registered. | 08:51 |
| tpatil | I will continue trouble shooting this issue | 08:52 |
| yasufum | thanks! | 08:52 |
| tpatil | That's all I wanted to bring up in today's meeting. Thank you. | 08:53 |
| yasufum | so move on to the final topic, vPTG | 08:53 |
| keiko-k | I proposed this topic, but you can ignore me | 08:54 |
| keiko-k | I tried to ask the ether pad url and date but | 08:54 |
| keiko-k | I found it | 08:54 |
| keiko-k | Later I will add my proposal for vPTG | 08:55 |
| keiko-k | to vPTG etherpad | 08:55 |
| yasufum | OK | 08:55 |
| yasufum | If you have other topics today, I would like to close this meeting. | 08:56 |
| yasufum | and continue discussion for networking-sfc later | 08:56 |
| takahashi-tsc | Not from me. I think we can close. | 08:57 |
| yasufum | ok thanks | 08:58 |
| yasufum | bye | 08:58 |
| takahashi-tsc | thanks | 08:58 |
| yasufum | #endmeeting | 08:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 12 08:58:30 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-05-12-08.07.html | 08:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-05-12-08.07.txt | 08:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-05-12-08.07.log.html | 08:58 |
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| ricolin | #startmeeting multi_arch | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 12 15:00:13 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'multi_arch' | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: multi_arch)" | 15:00 | |
| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, hi:) | 15:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | hey ricolin | 15:00 |
| ricolin | how's things there:) | 15:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i am dividing my focus between two meetings, fyi | 15:00 |
| ricolin | NP | 15:02 |
| ricolin | One question for you, how's the docs works going:) | 15:02 |
| ricolin | The current proposed doc architecture looks good to me | 15:03 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think my patch is good, honestly i would like to merge it, and then we can improve it gradually (experts will add links explaining their work) | 15:04 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, sure, but I thought you would like to update some nits first?:) | 15:05 |
| ricolin | as you comments in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/723907/1/doc/source/what-is-multiarch.rst :) | 15:05 |
| patchbot | patch 723907 - multi-arch-sig - Preliminary docs - 1 patch set | 15:05 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: yeah i can fix those nits and maybe make some small tweaks | 15:05 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i will do it soon : | 15:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | :) | 15:06 |
| ricolin | also wonder if we can have a working group in PTG to actually have people sign up for topics and work on it that week:) | 15:06 |
| ricolin | I mean topics in docs | 15:07 |
| ricolin | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Multi-arch-2020-VPTG | 15:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: yeah! i think spending time on docs during vptg is a good idea | 15:07 |
| ricolin | Can I put you as moderator for it? | 15:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yup! | 15:10 |
| * ricolin is a typo maker but will definitely be there:) | 15:10 | |
| ricolin | thx:) | 15:10 |
| ricolin | I added some topics according to current targeting actions | 15:12 |
| ricolin | any feedback or idea is welcome:) | 15:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ok | 15:14 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | do we have other topics today? | 15:14 |
| ricolin | Okay, I don't have much else to discuss but looking forward for VPTG:) | 15:15 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i'm looking forward to vptg too :) | 15:15 |
| ricolin | do hope devstack job can be green by then | 15:15 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yeah | 15:16 |
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| ricolin | Okay, Let's finish this meeting. | 15:16 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, thanks for join:) | 15:17 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 15:17 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2020/multi_arch.2020-05-12-15.00.txt | 15:17 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 12 21:00:44 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo martial | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:01 |
| oneswig | hey guys | 21:01 |
| b1airo | o/ | 21:01 |
| oneswig | How's things? | 21:01 |
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| jmlowe | Doing ok myself, you? | 21:02 |
| oneswig | having a good one today. Performance analysis, when it yields something, is fun. | 21:02 |
| martial | looking into gitlab for swagger/open api usage ... maybe to create a new project for the P2302 effort | 21:03 |
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| oneswig | As in the NIST cloud federation work? | 21:03 |
| jmlowe | I believe I had a bit of a breakthrough today | 21:04 |
| jmlowe | Was struggling to come up with a way to effectively use all the bandwidth to cephfs, I think using a combination of DVR, BGP dynamic routing, and IPv6 gets me there | 21:05 |
| martial | well the CFRA is out, NIST SP500-332 | 21:06 |
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| oneswig | Does IPV6 work with the other two jmlowe? | 21:06 |
| martial | right now we are looking at the IEE side | 21:06 |
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| jmlowe | Yes, I believe it does | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Just checking :-) | 21:06 |
| martial | and we want to define a minimalistic API definition | 21:06 |
| martial | so OpenAPI compatible | 21:06 |
| martial | and open to all to contribute | 21:06 |
| jmlowe | added bonus is that floating ip address get the full compute node bandwidth and can bypass the network node | 21:07 |
| martial | so was thinking gitlab since they have an OpenAPI viewer | 21:07 |
| jmlowe | for ipv4 | 21:07 |
| martial | (brb) | 21:07 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: weren't you using linuxbridge on Jetstream or is this a new project? | 21:08 |
| jmlowe | yes we are using linuxbridge, and dvr now works with linuxbridge, I'm thinking about ways to reinvent Jetstream | 21:09 |
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| trandles | Sorry I'm late. Prior call ran long. | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Sounds good jmlowe. I'm wary of DVR but perhaps that's undue | 21:10 |
| rbudden | ditto, hello all | 21:11 |
| oneswig | hi trandles rbudden, glad you could make it :-) | 21:11 |
| jmlowe | rbudden do you guys use dvr with linuxbridge? | 21:11 |
| rbudden | yes | 21:11 |
| rbudden | dvr_noext | 21:11 |
| rbudden | since we’re mostly provider networks in our one cloud | 21:12 |
| jmlowe | With linuxbridge it's relatively simple, proxy arp and dnat in the network node network ns, compute node gets snat rules and dumps things out onto the provider network | 21:12 |
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| jmlowe | a bit of asymetric routing, throw in bgp dynamic routing and you can move the dnat to the compute node | 21:14 |
| oneswig | In a parallel universe, I've been learning much about OVS hardware offloads and how to understand their dark magic. | 21:14 |
| jmlowe | Anything useful to report from your trips to that netherworld? | 21:15 |
| oneswig | Yes. Don't ever go there, unless performance makes you do it :-) | 21:15 |
| jmlowe | I've been going the opposite direction, looking at BGP as an elegant weapon for a more civilized age | 21:17 |
| oneswig | Using SRIOV I'm getting line rate from the 100G NIC, but currently only one of a bonded pair attached to my OVS bridge. OVS flow rules imply I should be using both bonded links, active-active. The silicon's not quite on the same page, but I am so close... | 21:17 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: BGP to the hypervisor - cool stuff. What do you need to do to make it work? | 21:18 |
| jmlowe | afaik just the bgp speaker agent from neutron | 21:20 |
| oneswig | What does the network fabric look like? | 21:21 |
| jmlowe | Well, that seems to be left as an exercise for the user | 21:22 |
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| oneswig | ... you get your users to cable up their own networks? :-) | 21:23 |
| jmlowe | I think you can use frrouting and vxlan to publish routes to the computes and keep the tenants non the wiser | 21:24 |
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| oneswig | I'd be very interested to hear how you get on with that. The layer-2 equivalent will look like a poor country cousin once you're done | 21:26 |
| oneswig | I'm having an interesting MLAG issue currently, trying to get ingress traffic to use both ports instead of 95% of it coming to one port. | 21:28 |
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| martial | SYN | 21:32 |
| jmlowe | which lacp mode are you using? | 21:33 |
| oneswig | lacp layer 3+4 - should be doing the right thing. I wonder if the hardware hashing isn't including source IP and MAC, that might be the only uniqueness between flows. | 21:33 |
| oneswig | I should check, does anyone have any points to raise - agenda items, workshops, etc? | 21:37 |
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| martial | Tim? | 21:43 |
| jmlowe | Not I, still holding out hope the Berlin Summit might happen | 21:43 |
| martial | same | 21:43 |
| rbudden | jmlowe: +1 | 21:44 |
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| oneswig | For the ex-Vancouver PTG, we should think of those upstream activities we always wanted to do, but never had the time. | 21:44 |
| trandles | I'd say something about the DOE Workflow summer seminar series but the schedule hasn't been posted yet. | 21:45 |
| martial | so Stig, you are looking to do RTX 2080 passthrough? | 21:45 |
| trandles | Eventually at https://wowoha.org | 21:45 |
| oneswig | martial: asking for a friend, really. | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Coincidentally I think we'd just did the setup to get them working today. | 21:46 |
| martial | oh that's cool | 21:46 |
| trandles | Big doubts that Berlin happens. Why SC20 hasn't gone virtual yet I don't know. There's about 0.1% chance I'm going anywhere near Georgia before I can get a vaccine. Plus, with COVID-19, it's worse now. | 21:46 |
| martial | this is a little sad in truth | 21:48 |
| jmlowe | I don't see how they can actually pull of a virtual SC20 | 21:48 |
| oneswig | I don't think they even put the keynotes online from SC19 did they? I remember looking for them some weeks later and didn't find it. | 21:49 |
| trandles | Nope and I even emailed the organizers asking about that. They said to keep checking back but the videos would be posted. I never found them. | 21:50 |
| b1airo | lol trandles ! | 21:50 |
| oneswig | perhaps someone forgot to hit record on the day :-) | 21:50 |
| martial | technology is hard | 21:51 |
| oneswig | Anyway, SC has some work to do to catch up with the online world. | 21:51 |
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| trandles | It'll be interesting to see how ISC20 does online | 21:53 |
| trandles | I heard mixed reviews for Red Hat's summit | 21:53 |
| b1airo | an unrelated question - anyone claim to be a slurm aficionado? i'm investigating consistently high "reserved time" and wondering if it is something to do with all the array jobs on this machine | 21:53 |
| trandles | Sounds like the system was overwhelmed somewhat | 21:53 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: not an aficionado to that degree, sorry | 21:54 |
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| trandles | b1airo, I wouldn't saw aficionado but I can put you in touch with our slurm gurus | 21:54 |
| b1airo | thanks trandles - i might reach out if i don't hear back from my usual suspects (one local and one at NERSC). on the other hand I could probably just submit a support ticket and then blog about it | 21:56 |
| oneswig | Nearly at the hour - anything more to add? | 21:59 |
| oneswig | OK y'all, have a good day | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 12 22:00:45 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-05-12-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-05-12-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-05-12-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| trandles | later | 22:00 |
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